I've got CP and workers I can use. I don't have the fish nodes or a boat. How do i discover theres fish nodes without a boat? I'm quite new and seriously poor lmao. Another question, I've only got Silver Embroidered Cook's clothes (+1, artisan 2 and nothing else, would organic feed still be profitable enough to bother doing? Thanks!
Hi , Some have used only swimming but it may take a very long time. One idea is to ask in channel for a captain or use the RP server Calph 2 and try to charter a boat captain who does this in roleplay and does it often to make it fast. Thats what I would do. Yes it would be AFK profit just slower. But you do want Artisan cooking before you start for sure for the 4.1 procs
Currently the price is at 8948 with 2600 Items listed for Good Feed and 15998 with 10000 items listed for Organic Feed. there's still profit to be made though not nearly as much as it was a few weeks ago.
it does not matter if the market is flooded or not, the way bdo mp works is the lowest will always have to be sold first, when it comes to things already at min price, its based on whoever was last to upload. They can't skip over yours and go to next one. So just keep uploading it and it will sell.
Hey Paul, well it could change before NA or never come I guess too maybe but unlikely. It just allows people to set the pets to loot faster by making them need to be feed more, so theory here is more pet food to sell D
Thanks, I really appreciate the prompt reply and all the tips you're giving. Ever since I watched your cooking videos i've been mass producing Essence of Liquor for contribution points in fear that they'd pull the taiwan move.
Hey Paul thanks for the quick reply too, ya keep all those essences in case you play to go over 250 someday , you'll need them ALL. They did do the 10% nerf but we look good, and it was returned to TW too!
@Incendar, its really possible set a organic feed cook using lamb meat, then during cook i buy some bear or deer meets, it will continue the cooking process?
Which video has all the things to reduce cooking time? I can't really find it from all the cooking videos. Also, how much do you make from one week's fish batch?
hello Incendar! i have a question regarding your cook outfit. did you enhance it yourself? if so, what failstack do you recommend to have the least amount of fails? i have been needing to get a better cook and alchemist outfit but don't want to waste money with the fails.
you have no choice BUT to waste money lol. If you want them it will cost you no matter what. Either with a 300m+ preorder setup or a shit ton of crafting attempts yourself. Check out his website incendar.com, he has a spreadsheet for fail stacks on normal gear as well as another one for clothes
Evening Eve! here you go so you can decide for yourself, cook is on the more expensive side to make so I did higher FS then say Alchemy incendar.com/lifeskillclothsenhancement.php
yeah should get your passive income going asap, in form of workers empire. Then you should be cooking for CP, so you can expand your empire, then you have 2 choices, just buy TRI+ gear or try to make it yourself
Sure, old but still valid (quality was bad that long ago) Timber: th-cam.com/video/U9VrygVpMVM/w-d-xo.html gather th-cam.com/video/YX_yna75x-Y/w-d-xo.html
I don't think so , if you mean Subnodes. Some say it does nothing for combat even on main node. I do put some energy in key sub nodes so if it is ever activated I'm good. But don't recommend doing that until you don't need energy anymore (after you have lot workers, etc) when I tested did nothing
Hey David will depends on the Server you are on and current Market, you can always make for later or wait until something else comes along and people forget about this market for example too.
I haven't done those in awhile but I would think no because I use insane amounts of milk and the only way I get those is sniping on MP and getting from mass cooking (byproducts turn in for milk). People list 500 at a time on MP you can grab and you could be using that CP for more silver other place, just my thoughts.
Dunno, I tried that, but nothing changed. Oh and for some reason I see that meat are being listed, but they never go up because of pre-orders. Missed like 4k lamb meat in the past few hours or so. Oh and how do I snipe better? Is there a delay from the notification for a listing and when it actually goes up?
I'm curious as well. I can't really figure out what nodes/how much cp is required to start getting dried white fish. Brand new player trying to get along well. Do I need a boat to discover islands (if thats where they are?)
he said you can make it work with a minimum of 8 cp. But obviously more than that would be ideal, the rest is just sniping off mp while cooking with market maids
Yeah I never did this and all the fish have huge variance in prices, I guess just try to figure out what is ideal (and listed). I would say cook a bit for CP and just get those fish nodes, will make life much easier AND profitable !
When you say you can get enough fish in a week, is that with your full artisan workers? I have all the nodes, but my workers are all levels 1-10 Goblin/Human Skilled/Professional.
Higher level and higher tier will be much better results yes. If you aren't getting enough from 8 nodes with blue workers just maybe get 12 or more with those type workers until you can get better workers.
hey incendar! really appreciate these videos, was just wondering what your current method of getting lamb meat/any meat at all?.. I was trying to pre-order meat off the market from prices up to 6k (per meat) and wasn't even able to get it, and gathering just seems super slow. any extra help would be super appreciated thanks!!
I bought 1k magic butcher knives during the turkey event and gather it manually. Many just sell the meat and only care for the shards so, market maid or MP snipe it , I find evenings EST tend to have a good amount of people selling. you can preorder lower if someone spams up 15k will go through , youll have better prices just snipe
How do you cook so fast? Show me please equip which speeds up the cooking and alchemy. For example, on Rus. Server i have speed of cooking 5-7 seconds.
Hey Patric I always put discord link in videos and talk to all server, its very interesting to see the differences too , I have an idea to lessen relic price for EU. I play mainly NA and ofc keep up on that economy the most but I know Alot of EU viewers now so will do what I can.
since i saw the good feed video i dumped a bunch of cp into setting up about 15 fishing nodes. theyre all close to the towns that the workers are in, but the work time on an average run is 2 hours+. is there anyway to help that out aside from waiting for them to lvl up?
Not very long before the video. Oatmeal and meat is a pain now tho. I just gather 10-15k meat at a time now and stream it, lots of silver with golden backpacks and shards lately.
Two ways for meat gathering time: 1 u gather just for shards count meat at 2k -5k each also if you want (I don't count meat at all when gather 10-15m hour, or even just do in between relics,etc 2) get market maids..... If you gather meat its higher thatn 15m an hour in title still (assuming 3k per hour 5 hours)
Ya was around 2-6 hours before vid now slower, good news from TW tho I guess they got the pet thing and it east way more food (few comments on here about it)
im currently in turkey mena server organic feed costs 18k and no1 has started to sell how much milk should i have to gain lots of Money from this i currently have 3k milk should i start at 10k milk or anything? and thanks your videos are helping me a lot
Very nice video! and again tnx for the share :)....... What interested me the most was you spread sheet, i'm very bad with excel so i was wondering if you would be able to share the spread sheet makes things a lot easier to compare to invest or not :) anyway tnx in advance ! keep up the good work!
Hey Christian, Make sure to use the correct fish colors! they all show as white I did a quick thing here to help: incendar.com/fishdatabaseblackdesert.php
I find the time gathering meat to be the biggest restraint on making this dish. Meat is harder to come by than milk. Even with the lamb area, it takes so long :/
hey Med thanks for watching, I gave an option in there called market maids which is viable if you don't want to gather (can buy meat as you cook). Costs money tho /
what do you mean you don't have access to VP ? last time i checked it is available under F3 all the time and if you are very lucky, you can snipe it from marketplace (a friend of mine did that yesterday)
Incendar, you make some great videos and I really like your relaxed approach. It would be great if you could start teaching people 'principles', rather than focusing on specific items, so as to help people to think about how to make money and maintain a stable market
I have 3 t1 Pets, I fed them all from Lvl 1 - 10 with organic feed (except my very first one, he had 1-2 levels cheap feed till I made my organic feed), all of them are still t1, just fyi
cuz they dont go up in tier just by feeding them, you have to "exchange" them in the pet menu. leveling the pet to level 10 just improves chances when you exchange 2 of same pets, that the end result will be a higher tier.
yep I could not find a single person to verify claims of organic, it would be nice and sell this more but rumor/trolling imo till I see evidence even if 1 in 1000. Im looking forward to pet changes from korea, however.
for me has no sense count fish cost as only 1 beer. if you use a fish that cost in market 7000 you are losing the posibility of sell it on MP and get 5000(aprox), so the real cost should be beer + 5000
ok I just put 7k in spread and still within 15-90m per hour ? in video I said can use blue white green or whatever is best for you, to speed up cook time blue because of weight, is it more profitable for you to sell blue fish or use?. There is many variables, do you really count chicken meat? does someone else count oatmeal at mp price if they make? Do I count yellow fish if you use that? Just baseline average for many player Why I put range of 15-90m
I knowthe numbers I did for personal use is way higher but is it higher then other use for milk? yeah you really have to go way deeper then I did for video and this is already confusing when simplified to this level
I want to do more variables but it becomes very long video, even this one i had 22 minutes keeping it short as possible, then had to edit down. Any one who watches can make it as detailed as they want, plus there is variances to people as well, for example some don't have chicken meat and others would never count it
Ya I didn't want to include this as a cost in the video really, but Some people may not have chicken nodes so I had to, I did show in video how much it adds to hourly if you don't count it, also making oatmeal bumps this quit a bit. I am going more conservative on numbers this time, even though I think it can be more than the max silver in title.
in addition ,all of this titles guides "90m/hr" should mean : if i play today 9h and i follow your guide i should get 90M X 7. and thats a lie. you can get 90m in 1h, thats true, but just after get all you need, in this case, i will not get 3000 oatmeal in my life.
Hey if you don't like and donmt see how to make the silver here which the video has all you need to know, don't do it and move on. I understand meat and oatmeal will be more difficult when this video is posted but I made over 100m an hour active for last three weeks form this easy. I was VERY conservative!
i repeat, you can get 90M in a hour, even 1000M selling Tet items, the problem is the time to get the requeriments (meat, oatmeal, tet items xD) that in my opinion should count in the entirely process, Otherwise titles like this are close to be clickbait.
Just so I can give my 2 cents; this is a waste, if you want to make the most out of your ingredients, you're better off making Sute/Milk Tea AND Good Feed instead of ONLY Organic Feed, Oatmeal is so painfully expensive to make, waste of precious milk (that can be used in tea), waste of processing time in flour, (which can be used in Fried fish for imperial cooking) waste of Cooking Honey (again; used in Teas or Honey Whine for imperial cooking), it's all just so painfully wrong; it saddens the shit out of me that people think its worth it to even consider making it (drama much?). If you can buy it off the MP from some poor sab, go for it, but for the love of god, DONT COOK IT YOURSELF.
This is valid point I mentioned in video and also why showed price to buy this (oatmeal) as then the milk argument you make is invalid if you simply buy the oatmeal.... There is more profit here if you make your own oatmeal thant 90m/hr but I also mentioned I will do something on milk soon which may be better. as far as making it I have 1.9B silver from it alone 3 weeks so um.... yes you be the judge if 'worth' making (although there is better I haven't done that video yet as some items have less demand too)
Buying the oatmeal on the market is such a silly statement to make. On na since the new world was released there have been 477738 oatmeal's listed. Say about 150 days of that is about 3185 oatmeals listed a day. If you wanted to do just one hour of this you would need 5400 oatmeals. So if a SINGLE person bought EVERY oatmeal listed in north america they would need 1.7 days of buying them to do one hour of organic feed straight. Not to mention the meat you used too, that also just doesnt appear on the market. And no you don't preorder meat for 3000, its currently going for upwards of 6000. So why are you suggesting to people this irrelevant hourly rate if its near impossible for anyone to achieve? An hourly rate easily surpassed by other better items that require only milk OR meat, not both. Insane clickbait title.
I should also add, 1.9 bil from it in 3 weeks? So you managed to buy 114,000 oatmeal off the market in 3 weeks, a market that is, at this point, pulling in about 1000 a day. hmm 21*1000 = 21000. Even if it was at the average, which its not, that would be 21*3185 = 66885. So even if you managed to buy every single oatmeal listed in north america for 3 weeks straight, you'd barely be at half the amount needed. Not to mention you would also have needed 285,000 meat in those 3 weeks which, lemme guess, you bought on your imaginary market. You're the worst kind of liar.
I'm in agreement with Michael McAuliffe here. There's not enough supply of meat and oatmeal to do any kind of sustain on this recipe. Also, if you're paying 7k for oatmeal and 6k for meat (current pre-order price), you'd make about the same money just selling the dried fish and chicken outright instead of using it to make Organic Feed, considering how much the price of Organic Feed has tanked.
playing on TW server. you really need many feed for your pets if you going grinding for hours. the new faster loot mode consume your pets stamina really fast!
lol 7000 oatmeal, its 2 honey each oatmeal so that mean you shooted honey hives until you got 14000 honey, how much time took you that? did you counted that 2 months shooting honey hives withouth do anything more to check if was really worth? lol i just checked the market and there is only 1 oatmeal selling, 1 oatmeal for the whole server, so you cant buy it from market, that recipe its madness, the payment its not worth unless you get 500 million profit, 90 millions can looks like a lot for a newbe player but its peanuts in terms of time and effort invested.
Organic, Good, or Normal feed... It really doesn't matter. I have tested smashing pets... From the looks of it, the actual level of the pet matter more. But RNG is RNG. T1 + T1 = T2 or T3. I have combined 2 lvl 10 T1 pets to get a T3, and 2 lvl 1 T1 pets to get a T3 . But I've gotten 1 lvl 10 T1 and 1 lvl 1 T1 pets to get a T2 pet. Never used anything but vendor bought feeds for my pets.
I play it as PVE so could care less what they add, hell I would like to buy everything in PS with silver actually. some PVP ppl are competitors tho care about p2w but for some reason not much with exploiting2win. I dont get it
These videos are only partially correct. Getting Meat and flour which are always sold out is a bitch. So unless you are massively over paying to win pre orders this cannot be done as stated in the title. And if you farm them yourself this takes up a lot of time as well. Its a way to make profit but he makes it sound like all the materials are just easy to come by. THEY AREN'T
Maids or just do meat every night before bed like me (sheep put right to sleep and are relaxing). I understand some people want to do 10 hours a day but for most it may be just a weekend thing or daily 1 hour
Soooooo you are pay 2 win? Yep you lost all cred bro NEXT! 8:32 You had us going for a min -_- So you spend more then what I spend too play WOW ($179.88 at a monthly charge of 14.99) in a year, yeah right. You got 2 be nuts...
$320 in three years, But to be completely honest about $500-$700 in gifting. way too expensive for me to play now tho and will be playing wow classic shortly
Not really I can get ~15k a day with 3 maids +preorder (well preorder has gone up ALOT but will regulate) when they list 5-10k at once run to mp if you dont have maids or two few , i also gather at night 5k min before bed puts me right to sleep. I was able to maintain 3 batches (1hour) per day for 3 weeks II agree that you couldn't do this anyway possible for 10 hours a day but thats why I do different recipes
This is misleading, since demand on meat/oatmeal is very high. Now yes you can technically make 90m per hour, but that is turning mats u spent hours and hours gathering and then turning them into more profitable recipe. Just like if u grind you gather the trash for 20 hours then turn them in 1 hour BOOM 200m/h :D.
Thats how everyone calculates coin per hour via crafting items... You do realise the argument you are using is the exact same as me saying Pirates isnt 20m an hour coz it takes you like 8 months to get your character to a point where it can see that kind of profit if your new. See where im goin with this?
Would be nice that you'd tell people stuff like this becomes less profitable when you make a video about it and that it's going to be a bit more difficult for them to get it started... Honesty and transparency you know? This becomes false information once the prices deflate because of the video.
as he said, the price and market may crash a bit, but when the pet change happens that happend in KR, you will make the money anyway at some point.. just will take a while. but in all honesty.. do you really think he NEEDS to state this? if the person who doesn't understand that this will happen, isn't gonna be smart enough to full understand and play BDO anyway.
That's running around the facts, if people were smart enough they didnt need a simple mehod of money making like this explained in the first place. it doesn't crash a bit, it crashes by a lot. and this is how you keep fools pleased with a few breadcrumbs.
I didn't notice you little head in the corner for ages ;D
sometimes yeah haha
gaahaha i didn't either till you pointed it out
I've got CP and workers I can use. I don't have the fish nodes or a boat. How do i discover theres fish nodes without a boat? I'm quite new and seriously poor lmao. Another question, I've only got Silver Embroidered Cook's clothes (+1, artisan 2 and nothing else, would organic feed still be profitable enough to bother doing? Thanks!
Hi , Some have used only swimming but it may take a very long time. One idea is to ask in channel for a captain or use the RP server Calph 2 and try to charter a boat captain who does this in roleplay and does it often to make it fast. Thats what I would do. Yes it would be AFK profit just slower. But you do want Artisan cooking before you start for sure for the 4.1 procs
does distance not matter at sea nodes? my workers at epheria take the same time like the workers from heidel, is that intended?
I still have another 2 videos I think to do on this, I fell a bit back after the good feed stuff.
Sadly EU marketplace is already flooded with both good and organic feed at min price.
What do you recommend EU then?
Did 400mil with organic b4 they started doing it in masses, good times
Tobias Burger how much do the price now each?
Currently the price is at 8948 with 2600 Items listed for Good Feed and 15998 with 10000 items listed for Organic Feed.
there's still profit to be made though not nearly as much as it was a few weeks ago.
it does not matter if the market is flooded or not, the way bdo mp works is the lowest will always have to be sold first, when it comes to things already at min price, its based on whoever was last to upload. They can't skip over yours and go to next one. So just keep uploading it and it will sell.
Hi Incendar,
can you explain the korea thing about food? It'll skyrocket because the required ingredients will increase?
Hey Paul, well it could change before NA or never come I guess too maybe but unlikely. It just allows people to set the pets to loot faster by making them need to be feed more, so theory here is more pet food to sell D
Thanks, I really appreciate the prompt reply and all the tips you're giving. Ever since I watched your cooking videos i've been mass producing Essence of Liquor for contribution points in fear that they'd pull the taiwan move.
Hey Paul thanks for the quick reply too, ya keep all those essences in case you play to go over 250 someday , you'll need them ALL. They did do the 10% nerf but we look good, and it was returned to TW too!
@Incendar, its really possible set a organic feed cook using lamb meat, then during cook i buy some bear or deer meets, it will continue the cooking process?
Have to restart with using dif meats yeah u can mix and match them too
Sorry for another question, but can you get a lot of meat from certain nodes?
No manually or MP
Which video has all the things to reduce cooking time? I can't really find it from all the cooking videos. Also, how much do you make from one week's fish batch?
Hey Sunko here you go
th-cam.com/video/4ysaaRivw8k/w-d-xo.html
hello Incendar! i have a question regarding your cook outfit. did you enhance it yourself? if so, what failstack do you recommend to have the least amount of fails? i have been needing to get a better cook and alchemist outfit but don't want to waste money with the fails.
you have no choice BUT to waste money lol.
If you want them it will cost you no matter what. Either with a 300m+ preorder setup or a shit ton of crafting attempts yourself. Check out his website incendar.com, he has a spreadsheet for fail stacks on normal gear as well as another one for clothes
Evening Eve! here you go so you can decide for yourself, cook is on the more expensive side to make so I did higher FS then say Alchemy
incendar.com/lifeskillclothsenhancement.php
awesome, thank you Incendar! i suppose i will start my journey to atleast tri outfits after i raise some money. :D
your order is wrong, first setup your lifeskill & workers and after that do your gear.
yeah should get your passive income going asap, in form of workers empire.
Then you should be cooking for CP, so you can expand your empire, then you have 2 choices, just buy TRI+ gear or try to make it yourself
Is there a video on the most efficient spots for specific resources? Like logs or meat?
Sure, old but still valid (quality was bad that long ago)
Timber:
th-cam.com/video/U9VrygVpMVM/w-d-xo.html
gather
th-cam.com/video/YX_yna75x-Y/w-d-xo.html
Please put the link of table / calculator in the video description?
I just made that for video I could put it somewhere tho I suppose on www.incendar.com
hey there, I'm only judt starting eith lifeskills, is there any point in investing energy into worker nodes (for example wheat or timber)?
I don't think so , if you mean Subnodes. Some say it does nothing for combat even on main node. I do put some energy in key sub nodes so if it is ever activated I'm good. But don't recommend doing that until you don't need energy anymore (after you have lot workers, etc) when I tested did nothing
Incendar Gaming alright, thank you :D
I wonder wher do you keep youre worker fore the fising spots and what is the best city to do it ?
Video Soon Jessy!
Does it still work ? 2022?
so wich of the 2 feed recepies bring more profit if i buy everything but not the fish?
Hey David will depends on the Server you are on and current Market, you can always make for later or wait until something else comes along and people forget about this market for example too.
Thanks for the video, can i ask you something? do farming 20 haystack worth it to get the meat and milk for making this recipe?
I haven't done those in awhile but I would think no because I use insane amounts of milk and the only way I get those is sniping on MP and getting from mass cooking (byproducts turn in for milk). People list 500 at a time on MP you can grab and you could be using that CP for more silver other place, just my thoughts.
huh, can you pre-order more than once?
sasukeuchiha998 i think you can only list one pre order at a time, to make another you have to cancel the existing pre order
maybe you can do one per character? cuz i think it buys if you offline right?
Dunno, I tried that, but nothing changed. Oh and for some reason I see that meat are being listed, but they never go up because of pre-orders. Missed like 4k lamb meat in the past few hours or so.
Oh and how do I snipe better? Is there a delay from the notification for a listing and when it actually goes up?
Is there a way to get profit by maybe buying fish? I dont have enough CP for nodes but have everything else ready
Yup!
What fish would you recommend buying ? The blue dried ones seem a bit pricey? ive been sniping out cheap white fish :o
I'm curious as well. I can't really figure out what nodes/how much cp is required to start getting dried white fish. Brand new player trying to get along well. Do I need a boat to discover islands (if thats where they are?)
he said you can make it work with a minimum of 8 cp. But obviously more than that would be ideal, the rest is just sniping off mp while cooking with market maids
Yeah I never did this and all the fish have huge variance in prices, I guess just try to figure out what is ideal (and listed). I would say cook a bit for CP and just get those fish nodes, will make life much easier AND profitable !
My Question is how you can Buy this mass on Oatmeal ? on eu this items only sold 740k Times ^^ I never see it in marketplace
It;'s not possible currently I don't think, and for some reason was always harder on EU no idea why.
When you say you can get enough fish in a week, is that with your full artisan workers? I have all the nodes, but my workers are all levels 1-10 Goblin/Human Skilled/Professional.
Higher level and higher tier will be much better results yes. If you aren't getting enough from 8 nodes with blue workers just maybe get 12 or more with those type workers until you can get better workers.
hey incendar! really appreciate these videos, was just wondering what your current method of getting lamb meat/any meat at all?.. I was trying to pre-order meat off the market from prices up to 6k (per meat) and wasn't even able to get it, and gathering just seems super slow. any extra help would be super appreciated thanks!!
I bought 1k magic butcher knives during the turkey event and gather it manually. Many just sell the meat and only care for the shards so, market maid or MP snipe it , I find evenings EST tend to have a good amount of people selling.
you can preorder lower if someone spams up 15k will go through , youll have better prices just snipe
How do you cook so fast? Show me please equip which speeds up the cooking and alchemy. For example, on Rus. Server i have speed of cooking 5-7 seconds.
Спасибо за ответ. Мда. 4 костюм это круто. Но скорость удивляет. Продвинутая, та которая у нас Плита III? В bddatabase.net такой перевод.
Sure this is how:
th-cam.com/video/7Qsr3GVT0IQ/w-d-xo.html
I would be interested in your take on the EU market.
Hey Patric I always put discord link in videos and talk to all server, its very interesting to see the differences too , I have an idea to lessen relic price for EU. I play mainly NA and ofc keep up on that economy the most but I know Alot of EU viewers now so will do what I can.
how you split the window to ONLY show cooking, and producing?
Hey Vicente did a video or just this here you go
th-cam.com/video/qIdoTFfP8w4/w-d-xo.html
thank you!
I know this video is Hella Old, but can you post spreadsheet? No idea how to make and not on the site or discord that i have seen
I did make a tool for website actually i will finally complete and add it I guess , thanks!
since i saw the good feed video i dumped a bunch of cp into setting up about 15 fishing nodes. theyre all close to the towns that the workers are in, but the work time on an average run is 2 hours+. is there anyway to help that out aside from waiting for them to lvl up?
Max worker, artisan, speed, distance isonly way to improve. On a good side you have to feed them less beer so this is ok for casual player too.
Incendar Gaming i guess ill just have to work on maxing them out then. since i can constantly fill em full of beer even while at work.
Hi, I'm new in game bdo can you help me about alchemist cooking and another life skill for beginner and Where worker you sent to find Material please.
Hey Dix follow and ask me when I'm live
www.twitch.tv/incendar
How many white fish are worth from 1 Yellow dried fish? I have 13 dried yellow fish I never knew about xd
Honeslty I have to look into that I never used a yellow for a recipe, but maybe 8?
Alright
incendar my question to you is how long does it normally take you to have all the resources to make that amount of money?
Not very long before the video. Oatmeal and meat is a pain now tho. I just gather 10-15k meat at a time now and stream it, lots of silver with golden backpacks and shards lately.
what do you mean by stream it?
i have 290 cp... will i be able to get enough fish to get 150m per week? (i am master 14 and am at 1.5sec coocktime)
Yes overkill in fact. Cp is good tho keep going
Oh and what coocking lvl are u btw?
So, cooking good feed gives u more profit than Brady's feed?
IDk in current day but watching proc rates has always been something you could learn from this
Nobody seems to mention that you need Onions too which can only be farmed or quested, no? Or is there an NPC now who sells those?
MP was never an issue for me, I hate farming tho
You taking into account meat gathering time?
Two ways for meat gathering time: 1 u gather just for shards count meat at 2k -5k each also if you want (I don't count meat at all when gather 10-15m hour, or even just do in between relics,etc 2) get market maids.....
If you gather meat its higher thatn 15m an hour in title still (assuming 3k per hour 5 hours)
Organic Feed isn't at min price yet but my feed didnt sell all night :c
Ya was around 2-6 hours before vid now slower, good news from TW tho I guess they got the pet thing and it east way more food (few comments on here about it)
is it still worth if i buy milk and meat from the Marketplace?
Buying them is actually GREAT and saves time hell yes!
im currently in turkey mena server organic feed costs 18k and no1 has started to sell how much milk should i have to gain lots of Money from this i currently have 3k milk should i start at 10k milk or anything? and thanks your videos are helping me a lot
so basically if i buy all ingrediance ill still make a profit?
You can but getting them in bulk is pretty hard honestly.
Very nice video! and again tnx for the share :)....... What interested me the most was you spread sheet, i'm very bad with excel so i was wondering if you would be able to share the spread sheet makes things a lot easier to compare to invest or not :) anyway tnx in advance ! keep up the good work!
dude that are basic calculations, if you cant do this simple things, you shouldnt lifeskills aren't for you.
Hey Roger , this is eventually going on incendar.com can just pick a recipe and pull something like this up. Soon as I get the time.
very awsome! tnx a ton :) i use the website when i need some information great site with lots of information! keep up the good work
Dude how you get milk?for oatmeal
Byproducts
Very helpful I really like your spreadsheets :)
np! Love Google sheets!
problem i find is getting an Advance Utensils
Hey goln well that is always a bit of a pain with rough stone and logs
here tho its old but good
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th-cam.com/video/IEVEXWo4Vpg/w-d-xo.html
this is how to get LOTS of Rough stone fast
Incendar Gaming
I watched the video
Can you repeat you are using all goblins on the fish nodes?
love your videos dude
Incendar - we need you back in BDO to teach us how to make profit in the chaos that is the new market.
Well for about a year the best silver now is buy ps items and sell them for silver but how many vids on that can you make
Is it still working?
yes and more so in the future with coming cheap feed price increase.
recept doesnt work for me something is wrong he told me
Hey Christian, Make sure to use the correct fish colors! they all show as white I did a quick thing here to help:
incendar.com/fishdatabaseblackdesert.php
I find the time gathering meat to be the biggest restraint on making this dish. Meat is harder to come by than milk. Even with the lamb area, it takes so long :/
Get some gathering clothes! :D Elixers work as well! Im kinda in the same boat tho :p how r u getting the fishh??
hey Med thanks for watching, I gave an option in there called market maids which is viable if you don't want to gather (can buy meat as you cook). Costs money tho /
Keep up the good work bud!
Thanks for taking time to say hi Brake, will do!
so any causual player will have like -60% profit becouse we dont have VP or cooking skill/equipment .....
Michal Janovský You're saying you can't buy a cooking utensil for 5000 silver?
no, im saying that we dont have acces to VP, cooking clothes, cooking pets etc,
what do you mean you don't have access to VP ? last time i checked it is available under F3 all the time
and if you are very lucky, you can snipe it from marketplace (a friend of mine did that yesterday)
Ya just buy it on MP, although that is not 'easy' in my opinion it is 10m silver. And lifes not fair I know this all too well.
love the excel tab 'marketstoruin'
I just put it there cause people actually think I do that on purpose D>
Incendar, you make some great videos and I really like your relaxed approach.
It would be great if you could start teaching people 'principles', rather than focusing on specific items, so as to help people to think about how to make money and maintain a stable market
Ya I have to get back to more of that, only really issue is they end up being 30-60minutes long but I did do a ton of those 'way back'
I have 3 t1 Pets, I fed them all from Lvl 1 - 10 with organic feed (except my very first one, he had 1-2 levels cheap feed till I made my organic feed), all of them are still t1, just fyi
cuz they dont go up in tier just by feeding them, you have to "exchange" them in the pet menu.
leveling the pet to level 10 just improves chances when you exchange 2 of same pets, that the end result will be a higher tier.
yep I could not find a single person to verify claims of organic, it would be nice and sell this more but rumor/trolling imo till I see evidence even if 1 in 1000. Im looking forward to pet changes from korea, however.
Thanks bro i completely forgot fish nodes existed. lmao!! thank you
Hey Night, well they got changed not to long ago to not suck!
The plan worked boys, now we sell the good feed we have stockpiled. Mission accomplished
I gotta thank you guys for the 3 weeks of keeping good feed down so I could Organic, was hard buying gold bars to keep lower than rank 1 tho D
Wait... you played the market to make your vid?
Omg! Madoff get off of this body!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So this is the guy that was undercutting me. Just imagine i found a craft on my own to do without this video, hmm....
Well it might possibility show some how to figure out the profit and do just that glad it helped.
Yea i know, i'm just glad to find the person that has been posting organic feeds with me for the past few weeks.
I noticed the uptick after good feed video and I applaud those on top of the game that much, and I already know you guys are wealthy and deserve it.
Great vid, as usual.
Thanks Falk!!
Check your PM's when able, good sir.
for me has no sense count fish cost as only 1 beer. if you use a fish that cost in market 7000 you are losing the posibility of sell it on MP and get 5000(aprox), so the real cost should be beer + 5000
ok I just put 7k in spread and still within 15-90m per hour ? in video I said can use blue white green or whatever is best for you, to speed up cook time blue because of weight, is it more profitable for you to sell blue fish or use?. There is many variables, do you really count chicken meat? does someone else count oatmeal at mp price if they make? Do I count yellow fish if you use that? Just baseline average for many player Why I put range of 15-90m
if someone make oatmeal shoud use oatmeal calculated cost...well...thats depends on how meticulous that person want to be.
even if you do the oatmeal by yourself, you should count it in. Even if you get the milk from the Mp, it costs around 6,5k per oatmeal.
I knowthe numbers I did for personal use is way higher but is it higher then other use for milk? yeah you really have to go way deeper then I did for video and this is already confusing when simplified to this level
I want to do more variables but it becomes very long video, even this one i had 22 minutes keeping it short as possible, then had to edit down. Any one who watches can make it as detailed as they want, plus there is variances to people as well, for example some don't have chicken meat and others would never count it
its 900 but it vendors for 100 silver and youd always vendor your chicken meat
Ya I didn't want to include this as a cost in the video really, but Some people may not have chicken nodes so I had to, I did show in video how much it adds to hourly if you don't count it, also making oatmeal bumps this quit a bit. I am going more conservative on numbers this time, even though I think it can be more than the max silver in title.
wow i didnt notice incendar facecam on the bottom left
sometimes D On stream too
in addition ,all of this titles guides "90m/hr" should mean : if i play today 9h and i follow your guide i should get 90M X 7. and thats a lie. you can get 90m in 1h, thats true, but just after get all you need, in this case, i will not get 3000 oatmeal in my life.
13000M in 15 minutes!!! ---> selling your tet dandelion
Hey if you don't like and donmt see how to make the silver here which the video has all you need to know, don't do it and move on.
I understand meat and oatmeal will be more difficult when this video is posted but I made over 100m an hour active for last three weeks form this easy. I was VERY conservative!
Im sorry if you cant make 15-90m an hour from this I really don't know what to say
i repeat, you can get 90M in a hour, even 1000M selling Tet items, the problem is the time to get the requeriments (meat, oatmeal, tet items xD) that in my opinion should count in the entirely process, Otherwise titles like this are close to be clickbait.
well, time invested in gathering meal shouldn't be counted in, since many people farm sheeps for the hards/sharps
Just so I can give my 2 cents; this is a waste, if you want to make the most out of your ingredients, you're better off making Sute/Milk Tea AND Good Feed instead of ONLY Organic Feed, Oatmeal is so painfully expensive to make, waste of precious milk (that can be used in tea), waste of processing time in flour, (which can be used in Fried fish for imperial cooking) waste of Cooking Honey (again; used in Teas or Honey Whine for imperial cooking), it's all just so painfully wrong; it saddens the shit out of me that people think its worth it to even consider making it (drama much?).
If you can buy it off the MP from some poor sab, go for it, but for the love of god, DONT COOK IT YOURSELF.
This is valid point I mentioned in video and also why showed price to buy this (oatmeal) as then the milk argument you make is invalid if you simply buy the oatmeal.... There is more profit here if you make your own oatmeal thant 90m/hr but I also mentioned I will do something on milk soon which may be better.
as far as making it I have 1.9B silver from it alone 3 weeks so um.... yes you be the judge if 'worth' making (although there is better I haven't done that video yet as some items have less demand too)
atleast one dude who questions a video on youtube, everyone else just starts doing it even if they are losing money
Buying the oatmeal on the market is such a silly statement to make. On na since the new world was released there have been 477738 oatmeal's listed. Say about 150 days of that is about 3185 oatmeals listed a day. If you wanted to do just one hour of this you would need 5400 oatmeals. So if a SINGLE person bought EVERY oatmeal listed in north america they would need 1.7 days of buying them to do one hour of organic feed straight. Not to mention the meat you used too, that also just doesnt appear on the market. And no you don't preorder meat for 3000, its currently going for upwards of 6000. So why are you suggesting to people this irrelevant hourly rate if its near impossible for anyone to achieve? An hourly rate easily surpassed by other better items that require only milk OR meat, not both. Insane clickbait title.
I should also add, 1.9 bil from it in 3 weeks? So you managed to buy 114,000 oatmeal off the market in 3 weeks, a market that is, at this point, pulling in about 1000 a day. hmm 21*1000 = 21000. Even if it was at the average, which its not, that would be 21*3185 = 66885. So even if you managed to buy every single oatmeal listed in north america for 3 weeks straight, you'd barely be at half the amount needed. Not to mention you would also have needed 285,000 meat in those 3 weeks which, lemme guess, you bought on your imaginary market. You're the worst kind of liar.
I'm in agreement with Michael McAuliffe here. There's not enough supply of meat and oatmeal to do any kind of sustain on this recipe. Also, if you're paying 7k for oatmeal and 6k for meat (current pre-order price), you'd make about the same money just selling the dried fish and chicken outright instead of using it to make Organic Feed, considering how much the price of Organic Feed has tanked.
I am sort of confused why so many ppl are trying that hard.
I make around 80 to 120m/h by using my Black Spirit.
Haters confirmed.
Tobias Hommen And how is it you make that much using the black spirit?
Tobias Hommen
Bro you can't do this
If you do 100 mil per hour
You can do tons of billions per week it's unbelievable)
:D
People still do this, I made hundreds of billions as well, it was true go figure?
playing on TW server. you really need many feed for your pets if you going grinding for hours. the new faster loot mode consume your pets stamina really fast!
Hey Skillful as always appreciate TW players letting us know ! Can't wait for this!
how did you get 400+ energy? D: super jealous!
Lots of Rum actually
at EU prices on organic feed already droped to 8.5 mil... ppl check guides like this and RIP market lol . But love your work
Thanks Alex , I know EU is a bit different too and prices were low before videos Im hoping this changes with pet changes D
lol 7000 oatmeal, its 2 honey each oatmeal so that mean you shooted honey hives until you got 14000 honey, how much time took you that? did you counted that 2 months shooting honey hives withouth do anything more to check if was really worth? lol i just checked the market and there is only 1 oatmeal selling, 1 oatmeal for the whole server, so you cant buy it from market, that recipe its madness, the payment its not worth unless you get 500 million profit, 90 millions can looks like a lot for a newbe player but its peanuts in terms of time and effort invested.
Just put a worker on honey node actually.
The KR changes introduce modes that deplete stamina slower, not faster.
Bob Saggins theres a faster looting faster hunger too
The fastest tier is the same as our current looting speed.
you're just wrong sorry
Bob I spoke with two korean players who said top is faster , do you have a link or source?
Ads are getting smarter
its learning !
Organic, Good, or Normal feed... It really doesn't matter. I have tested smashing pets... From the looks of it, the actual level of the pet matter more. But RNG is RNG. T1 + T1 = T2 or T3. I have combined 2 lvl 10 T1 pets to get a T3, and 2 lvl 1 T1 pets to get a T3 . But I've gotten 1 lvl 10 T1 and 1 lvl 1 T1 pets to get a T2 pet. Never used anything but vendor bought feeds for my pets.
Pretty sure it's just trolling to sell pet food. Thanks for the info tho.
The market is player driven but is -->as far as i know
I play it as PVE so could care less what they add, hell I would like to buy everything in PS with silver actually. some PVP ppl are competitors tho care about p2w but for some reason not much with exploiting2win. I dont get it
You can just gather the lamb meat, by recovering with RBF to get a nice load. Saves money
Yeah many use that method works out great. Thanks
NOICE
still works
These videos are only partially correct. Getting Meat and flour which are always sold out is a bitch. So unless you are massively over paying to win pre orders this cannot be done as stated in the title. And if you farm them yourself this takes up a lot of time as well. Its a way to make profit but he makes it sound like all the materials are just easy to come by. THEY AREN'T
Yeah at the time, I was able to buy meat freely, after vid RIP, still good profit apparently now tho....
the problim is meaaaaaat
Maids or just do meat every night before bed like me (sheep put right to sleep and are relaxing). I understand some people want to do 10 hours a day but for most it may be just a weekend thing or daily 1 hour
Soooooo you are pay 2 win? Yep you lost all cred bro NEXT! 8:32 You had us going for a min -_- So you spend more then what I spend too play WOW ($179.88 at a monthly charge of 14.99) in a year, yeah right. You got 2 be nuts...
$320 in three years, But to be completely honest about $500-$700 in gifting. way too expensive for me to play now tho and will be playing wow classic shortly
Clickbait, you can't get enough meat, let alone the other products to produce at the level that equals the advertised profit.
Not really I can get ~15k a day with 3 maids +preorder (well preorder has gone up ALOT but will regulate) when they list 5-10k at once run to mp if you dont have maids or two few , i also gather at night 5k min before bed puts me right to sleep. I was able to maintain 3 batches (1hour) per day for 3 weeks II agree that you couldn't do this anyway possible for 10 hours a day but thats why I do different recipes
Let's be honest. You just wanted an excuse to use your chicken meat.
Yup! a recipe that uses chicken meat and profitable!?!?
This is misleading, since demand on meat/oatmeal is very high. Now yes you can technically make 90m per hour, but that is turning mats u spent hours and hours gathering and then turning them into more profitable recipe. Just like if u grind you gather the trash for 20 hours then turn them in 1 hour BOOM 200m/h :D.
Thats how everyone calculates coin per hour via crafting items...
You do realise the argument you are using is the exact same as me saying Pirates isnt 20m an hour coz it takes you like 8 months to get your character to a point where it can see that kind of profit if your new. See where im goin with this?
Damn this was a good response and true
I made way more the weekend before meat went extinct actually and was conservative with that number
No one buys feed anymore
yeah no real reason to / Watch for when new pets or events or maybe more pets out even
lmao
:D
Would be nice that you'd tell people stuff like this becomes less profitable when you make a video about it and that it's going to be a bit more difficult for them to get it started... Honesty and transparency you know? This becomes false information once the prices deflate because of the video.
as he said, the price and market may crash a bit, but when the pet change happens that happend in KR, you will make the money anyway at some point.. just will take a while. but in all honesty.. do you really think he NEEDS to state this? if the person who doesn't understand that this will happen, isn't gonna be smart enough to full understand and play BDO anyway.
That's running around the facts, if people were smart enough they didnt need a simple mehod of money making like this explained in the first place. it doesn't crash a bit, it crashes by a lot. and this is how you keep fools pleased with a few breadcrumbs.
Dubbroo i actually enjoyed the video, dumbfuck.
yea that´s true, its a tip, and at one point it will be usefull, so I geuss there is no fault. but you are correct about simple people.
shh