I'm a 23 Evo owner. I have no idea what Specialized was thinking? In the years to come, I still hope I can get a replacement frame. It's the perfect bike for the trails I ride.
@@justsayin3600 atrocious, lol. its a sweet bike, maybe not for you. likely they will launch an AL version down the road. that could be the ticket for many other folk.
@@justsayin3600feel the same but I’m a regular stumpy owner. And, they won’t. My 2019 needed to be warrantied in 2020, had to wait til the new model came available in Jan 2021.
Amazing bike! I don't need a new bike but this is the only one on the market that really has me thinking. Just perfect execution of the details that actually matter. Size specific chainstays, tall stacks, long dropper insertion. Awesome job Neko.
The loop is complete…. I fondly remember droooling over the Yetis in the early 90’s Show up at a trailhead on this and everyone else is on a downstream robot-turd. Dream team creation ! Neko, Frank-FTW, Logan, Asa, Angel -Deep end of the talent pool here. F.T.W. handmade the first Aluminum Yeti. Now we can too have the best bike. Bravo gentleman
🤤 peak functionality making for the most gorgeous form, welding in the 3d printed lugs was a stroke of genius. Can’t wait to see the steel version. Keep up the great work
And I apologize in advance if I sound strange, I’m just new to all of this, and I found your channel from searching mountain bikes. Absolutely amazing. I just love what you are doing. I would love to be able to purchase one of your FW when they become available. I got back into mountain biking after 25 years. I stopped biking at 17 years old. I’m 46 and I took eight months and built a mechanic shop in my garage and built a high performance mountain trail bike ..frame up and it has been an absolutely amazing journey. I know the feeling of waking up early morning grab a cup coffee and hit the workshop to see what you can come up with. It’s an amazing feeling.
Hey, thanks very much! On our website we have a newsletter that we send out every time we have an update with the frames. If you sign up for that we will send over all the info as these become available for sale.
I have been waiting for this announcement for a while now! As same for with DH frame, i probably wont be able to afford it, but i fully support your company and cannot wait to see one in person! Cheers from Chile!
Your bike looks awesome mate !! Growing-through-sizes chai stays is a very good thing that we don’t see enough !! Those numbers look amazing, the bike looks amazing, it’s a dream bike… kudos !! 🤟
It seems like some collaboration was done with the guys at Raaw, and that’s a great thing if true! Great minds collaborating is the best way to create the best bikes. I love my Raaw Madonna!
Yes it is 1 piece. It is definitely more expensive, but locates a lot of crucial points in 1 part which makes our frames more accurate and better quality.
Looks amazing, Ive been wondering when this would be available for purchase and I really want one even though I don’t need a new bike 😂 will have to exercise lots of restraint here 😢
When the Enduro bike available for the public? I want one! Make sure it can run both 29" and mullet. The DH bike is cool but for the weekend warrior is just too much unless it is a ski lift bike only.
We will have more info soon on availability but it should be ready for pre sale this summer and shipping towards the end of this year. It will be only mixed wheel, 29 front 27.5 rear.
The bike looks amazing. I notice the small has a longer chain stay than reach; is there a reason the small is proportionally different than the other sizes with regard to these two measurements? Does it change the feel of the bike much?
I guess the more crucial number to look at is front center vs rear center, or BB to front axle vs chaninstay in other words. Proportionally it’s the same change as the other frames, sorry if we forgot the front center measurement in the geo chart
@@Loganmulally No worries at all, thanks for the explanation; that makes perfect sense. I've always wondered how different sizes of the same bike would feel different depending on the size that fits you. For instance, would the bike behave the same for a rider that fits a medium and a rider that fits a large? I'm guessing that's a really hard aspect to test.
We have thought about it and it could be a good option if everything is working well. Right now we own this seat stay mold and are committed to the simplicity of a straight rear axle. We are happy to offer the frames tuned the way we like them, and consider the total ride of the bike, the long chainstays contribute to that
Love how clean and not fussy it looks Neko - top work!! When you are going through / finalising the Geo' chart, be sure to include the effective top-tube length - as this indicates the 'cockpit' space, and we spend a lot of time grinding uphill too... For your medium it looks to be ~585mm-ish (?). As someone else also asked - is Full 29'er an option(?) even if it means a little less rear travel (eg.160mm) to keep the seat-stay bridge 'safe' (but looks like it fits that 27.5 pretty snuggly). Again - Top work Neko et al - thanks for bringing us along on the journey 🥰
Thanks! We’ll be sure to put that on the new geo chart. For now, sharing these CS and SS molds with the DH bike, we can only offer 27.5 rear which the bike is designed from the ground up around. I like the long post insertion and bridge on the SS is mandatory (for me) so unfortunately no 29 options planned
@@Loganmulallyhave you considered to put headset reach adjust cups? Really keen on this bike, but I’m in between M and L. If I could stretch out the medium a bit it would be nice or possibly shorten the large
On an enduro frame with a single crown fork it's hard to get adjustment out of the headset since the fork has a tapered steerer tube. We have definitely considered it but with the size of head tube needed and all of the custom headset parts we would need to make, we didn't think it would be worth it right now.
The exact opposite of mine haha. Older enduro frame with a 65.5 head angle and 72 seat angle. The 620mm ETT sounds long enough but with that slack angle seat I've gotta have the saddle slammed forward. I think the reach on the large frame is somewhere around 430mm.
Great video. Great looking bike. With the rear triangle being carbon, does it help the bike carve when cornering or help with unsprung weight… or maybe both.
I’d say first it makes the alignment and fit of all the pivots perfect, then it reduces the unsprung weight a lot, and lastly we can tune the stiffness with shape and layup
Neko, I’m 6’4” and come in at 260ish pounds. I regularly break frames, cranks, pedals, wheels, etc. I’d be happy to be a tester if you want! 😂 I’m very proficient at casing big jumps. Holler if you want me to try to break one! 💪🫡
Gives us more clearance for a straight downtube. The piggy back forward would require the bb part to be much bigger and push the downtube forwards or with a bend. Simpler construction!
you should see if you can get in touch with alan milyard . he is a mainly motorbike content creator who was a british ministery of defence engineer but his son is or perhaps now ,was a downhill mountainbiker . alan built him a bike and has some interesting ideas on frame and complete bike design and tech.
Yes, we wanted the bridge in front of the tire on the seat stay and long dropper insertion, which we couldn’t get with a 29 version. 27.5 rips tho! Feels like a DH bike
I didn't see the stumpjumper launch, but their new bike looks very good. Also, I have been watching this channel for a while too. I thought it was strange and interesting that a sponsored rider would just go his own way and make his own bikes. Also very cool that you were able to continue to race on that level with your own bike. I think your bike looks awesome! You have raced. You know what you like and prefer, you made a bike and think it's good. Good Luck Neko!
Man. I wish I could afford that frame, shock. Seriously. I got a slightly used wife, late 30’s, low miles. Cooks well I’d be willing to trade straight up for a large.
this tall rider no fitt.78.79.80 st angle .me ride 6'6 height long leg normal torso i think good st angle tall rider better 76.76.6 or 77 but gratulaiton the bike build....
This is exactly the type of content we need after that atrocious Stumpjumper launch!
I'm a 23 Evo owner. I have no idea what Specialized was thinking? In the years to come, I still hope I can get a replacement frame. It's the perfect bike for the trails I ride.
@@justsayin3600exactly. Evo owner here too
@@justsayin3600 atrocious, lol. its a sweet bike, maybe not for you. likely they will launch an AL version down the road. that could be the ticket for many other folk.
@@justsayin3600feel the same but I’m a regular stumpy owner. And, they won’t. My 2019 needed to be warrantied in 2020, had to wait til the new model came available in Jan 2021.
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7:34 _Stability through geometry - Predictability through kinematics_
I think Brian Cahal just came into his pants there 🤣
The Design reminds me of a stinky but a modern one i bet that shreds like a beast!
Wake up babe, the new frameworks video just dropped!
I like that Neko is holding 2 cell phones
#doublefisting
Big enough for a burner lmao
Playing the phone drums
Simple numbers. Nothing overly complex. What the industry needs. Well done 👏
Amazing bike! I don't need a new bike but this is the only one on the market that really has me thinking. Just perfect execution of the details that actually matter. Size specific chainstays, tall stacks, long dropper insertion. Awesome job Neko.
We all need a new bike, especially a tough aluminum one.
The loop is complete….
I fondly remember droooling over the Yetis in the early 90’s
Show up at a trailhead on this and everyone else is on a downstream robot-turd.
Dream team creation ! Neko, Frank-FTW, Logan, Asa, Angel -Deep end of the talent pool here.
F.T.W. handmade the first Aluminum Yeti. Now we can too have the best bike.
Bravo gentleman
Dude that thing is SICK. I hope you keep the prototype look for retail. Best of luck with the process!
So 22.3% progressivity - perfect for Coil and big hitting enduro.
Cool design. Super fun to see what you guys are up to.
So much respect for the way you’re doing business; I’m a small bike business owner too. Keep it small and yours.
Such a great bike in the Enduro mode. 🔥
Been waiting for this announcement and now it's at the top of my watchlist. 😏
🤤 peak functionality making for the most gorgeous form, welding in the 3d printed lugs was a stroke of genius. Can’t wait to see the steel version. Keep up the great work
It will be machined lugs
Man, love the frames and the progress you have mande in short time.
Juiciest frame everrrrrrr n 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Finally a bike made for people who ride.
Can't wait for the 140 150 trail bike👌
I’ll take an XL frame and one of your e-bikes when they come out!
And I apologize in advance if I sound strange, I’m just new to all of this, and I found your channel from searching mountain bikes.
Absolutely amazing. I just love what you are doing. I would love to be able to purchase one of your FW when they become available. I got back into mountain biking after 25 years. I stopped biking at 17 years old. I’m 46 and I took eight months and built a mechanic shop in my garage and built a high performance mountain trail bike ..frame up and it has been an absolutely amazing journey. I know the feeling of waking up early morning grab a cup coffee and hit the workshop to see what you can come up with. It’s an amazing feeling.
Hey, thanks very much! On our website we have a newsletter that we send out every time we have an update with the frames. If you sign up for that we will send over all the info as these become available for sale.
@@Loganmulally thank you!! Will go sign up!
so sick!! geo, looks, components, and little details all working together for an awesome build! definitely a bike i want to ride!! great job
Neko and Logan are not the hero’s we deserve, but the hero’s we need 🤌
I have been waiting for this announcement for a while now! As same for with DH frame, i probably wont be able to afford it, but i fully support your company and cannot wait to see one in person! Cheers from Chile!
Thanks for sharing. It will be my first enduro bike(owned trail&AM) once it goes on sale.
Your bike looks awesome mate !! Growing-through-sizes chai stays is a very good thing that we don’t see enough !! Those numbers look amazing, the bike looks amazing, it’s a dream bike… kudos !! 🤟
It seems like some collaboration was done with the guys at Raaw, and that’s a great thing if true! Great minds collaborating is the best way to create the best bikes. I love my Raaw Madonna!
Awesome looking bike and design. Love the numbers and think you guys are doing amazing!!
Incredible bike holy crap dude. Looks gorgeous and every number is so solid!!!! Can’t imagine how sick it is to ride
So sick Niko, it's impressive what you're doing and the bikes look awesome. I'm rooting for ya!
Man, I'd love to test ride one of these. The geo looks very interesting. Props for trying to keep things proportional across sizes.
I'm so excited for this. Geo on the bike looks absolutely dialed. Top of the list for my next bike!
Super nice!!
Much success 😎🙌🏼🤩
Very nice bike. Did you plan to add accessory mount on the top tube?
Yep! We are hoping to do rivets under the top tube for accessories
Niice geo! That's a huge stack and wheelbase numbers 👀
Neko, could you please look at making a version that houses a Pinion 9 Sp crank gear and belt drive (not the eBike version!!!)
+1 on that brake cable routing. I wish they all did that
Can’t wait to get my hands on one of these. Soo sick.
Sign me up, Rick!
Thanks for giving us something to drool over.
May I ask why we don't see that super pretty rocker that faction made for the other bike on this one?
Awesome stuff
Gorgeous bike !
love the look of the bb section ist that milled from one piece ? if so how expensive is that ?
Yes it is 1 piece. It is definitely more expensive, but locates a lot of crucial points in 1 part which makes our frames more accurate and better quality.
Hell yeah
Looks crazy damn good
Two phones at once, the man is all business.
Are they being made in a size small? As I’m literally sold on getting one of these, I love it.
Looks amazing, Ive been wondering when this would be available for purchase and I really want one even though I don’t need a new bike 😂 will have to exercise lots of restraint here 😢
Geo perfect what i look for I run 180 mm front tho for park rockshox zeb ultimate with vivid ultimate rear
I'm way more interested in this bike release👍🏿👍🏿
Can we get a suspension set up vid with air pressures volume spacers compression setting round etc.
Many Thanks Neko I sure like the details.
When the Enduro bike available for the public? I want one! Make sure it can run both 29" and mullet. The DH bike is cool but for the weekend warrior is just too much unless it is a ski lift bike only.
We will have more info soon on availability but it should be ready for pre sale this summer and shipping towards the end of this year.
It will be only mixed wheel, 29 front 27.5 rear.
@@NekoMulally Great news! Sign me up for a med frame.
Same
Looks awesome. Need to at least test a gearbox tho right?
The bike looks amazing. I notice the small has a longer chain stay than reach; is there a reason the small is proportionally different than the other sizes with regard to these two measurements? Does it change the feel of the bike much?
I guess the more crucial number to look at is front center vs rear center, or BB to front axle vs chaninstay in other words. Proportionally it’s the same change as the other frames, sorry if we forgot the front center measurement in the geo chart
@@Loganmulally No worries at all, thanks for the explanation; that makes perfect sense. I've always wondered how different sizes of the same bike would feel different depending on the size that fits you. For instance, would the bike behave the same for a rider that fits a medium and a rider that fits a large? I'm guessing that's a really hard aspect to test.
What a beauty
Awesome video Neko! What length 5Dev cranks are you running on the Enduro? The bike sounds awesome, looking forward to the production announcement!
Such an awesome bike. Have you considered interchangeable dropouts to allow people to modify the chainstay length?
We have thought about it and it could be a good option if everything is working well. Right now we own this seat stay mold and are committed to the simplicity of a straight rear axle. We are happy to offer the frames tuned the way we like them, and consider the total ride of the bike, the long chainstays contribute to that
now i gotta decide on size
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Pre-order sale #1. Tick the box, Logan.
Looks sick thanks for sharing 🤘🏼
Love how clean and not fussy it looks Neko - top work!!
When you are going through / finalising the Geo' chart, be sure to include the effective top-tube length - as this indicates the 'cockpit' space, and we spend a lot of time grinding uphill too...
For your medium it looks to be ~585mm-ish (?).
As someone else also asked - is Full 29'er an option(?) even if it means a little less rear travel (eg.160mm) to keep the seat-stay bridge 'safe' (but looks like it fits that 27.5 pretty snuggly).
Again - Top work Neko et al - thanks for bringing us along on the journey 🥰
Thanks! We’ll be sure to put that on the new geo chart.
For now, sharing these CS and SS molds with the DH bike, we can only offer 27.5 rear which the bike is designed from the ground up around. I like the long post insertion and bridge on the SS is mandatory (for me) so unfortunately no 29 options planned
@@Loganmulally is def' a v.sensible approach maintaining the CS & SS across the 'fleet' 👍
@@Loganmulallyhave you considered to put headset reach adjust cups? Really keen on this bike, but I’m in between M and L. If I could stretch out the medium a bit it would be nice or possibly shorten the large
On an enduro frame with a single crown fork it's hard to get adjustment out of the headset since the fork has a tapered steerer tube. We have definitely considered it but with the size of head tube needed and all of the custom headset parts we would need to make, we didn't think it would be worth it right now.
@@NekoMulally thanks for the reply and I can understand it brings complexity to the design
F the weight. I want it to ride good and be able to take a beating. Looks sick dude! What size are you running?
Is the seat tube still too steep cause you put your saddle to the back that much?
The exact opposite of mine haha. Older enduro frame with a 65.5 head angle and 72 seat angle. The 620mm ETT sounds long enough but with that slack angle seat I've gotta have the saddle slammed forward.
I think the reach on the large frame is somewhere around 430mm.
Awesome looking bike. Those geo numbers look solid.
Curious, did you ever recover any of your bikes that were stolen overseas?
Thank you! Unfortunately not, we havent heard anything
Nice work
Great video. Great looking bike. With the rear triangle being carbon, does it help the bike carve when cornering or help with unsprung weight… or maybe both.
I’d say first it makes the alignment and fit of all the pivots perfect, then it reduces the unsprung weight a lot, and lastly we can tune the stiffness with shape and layup
@@Loganmulally excellent, thanks for the reply
Frameworks program going so well that Nekos got TWO phones.
Looks great!
How come the only sticker no body removes, is the qr sticker on the Fox fork uppers that specifically says, remove.
Awesome!
i think im in love
Can you run it with a 180mm fork,?
Awesome.
Wtg Neko
Is it 157 rear hub spacing?
Sick
Neko, I’m 6’4” and come in at 260ish pounds. I regularly break frames, cranks, pedals, wheels, etc. I’d be happy to be a tester if you want! 😂 I’m very proficient at casing big jumps. Holler if you want me to try to break one! 💪🫡
Why is the shock in that position?
Gives us more clearance for a straight downtube. The piggy back forward would require the bb part to be much bigger and push the downtube forwards or with a bend. Simpler construction!
@@Loganmulally nice!!
you should see if you can get in touch with alan milyard . he is a mainly motorbike content creator who was a british ministery of defence engineer but his son is or perhaps now ,was a downhill mountainbiker . alan built him a bike and has some interesting ideas on frame and complete bike design and tech.
Time for a coffee
Is it just me, or it reminds me of the kona stinky of olds 😅 Don't get me wrong its a sick looking bike!
daaamn looks so sexy, have u tryed too use hemp and weave it like carbon?
I'm gonna ask again.... How about a hard tale version from you?
lol
Mixed wheels only?
Yes, we wanted the bridge in front of the tire on the seat stay and long dropper insertion, which we couldn’t get with a 29 version. 27.5 rips tho! Feels like a DH bike
frameworks phone corp
I didn't see the stumpjumper launch, but their new bike looks very good.
Also, I have been watching this channel for a while too.
I thought it was strange and interesting that a sponsored rider would just go his own way and make his own bikes.
Also very cool that you were able to continue to race on that level with your own bike.
I think your bike looks awesome! You have raced. You know what you like and prefer, you made a bike and think it's good.
Good Luck Neko!
Just one pound heavier than my trail bike lol 👍🏼
Man. I wish I could afford that frame, shock. Seriously. I got a slightly used wife, late 30’s, low miles. Cooks well I’d be willing to trade straight up for a large.
Can she come to all the races to do that cooking 😂
this tall rider no fitt.78.79.80 st angle .me ride 6'6 height long leg normal torso i think good st angle tall rider better 76.76.6 or 77 but gratulaiton the bike build....