NTSB: Pilot warned about emergency before fatal plane crash in Middle TN on Dec. 7
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The real miracle here is she survived this long.
Here's what happened. She had 5 deg nose down trim. She pulled on the elevator to cancel that out, lost speed, and stalled. The plane quickly accelerated to 200 mph going down. The pilot then decided that diving into the ground was not good and started pulling on the elevator controls again. With the down trim and the high speed, the pounds of force needed to pull up was more than she was able to provide. So then the plane accelerated more to 210 and the folks figured that they couldn't do anything about it.
@@kentbetts so she forgot it was trimmed down ? and tried to correct it with pulling the steering wheel (sorry not a pilot) ?
@eldonn4871 - God takes care of drunks and fools, as the saying goes .. so it seems that God's patience just ran out.
@@zuiderlingtv2176yes. With the stress of the situation, what looks easy can become impossible. She was clearly too focused on trying to physically control the plane and didn’t have the time to troubleshoot why the altitude was varying so much.
this woman needs her ap there are several videos on youtube explaining her inexperience with her own autopilot and even pointing out videos she has posted! but yes, it was related to trim, probably because she never trimmed the aircraft, and many have said that in her videos, they never seen her trim the aircraft or even talk about it. She just wanted autopilot to fly the aircraft@@kentbetts
Watch the videos of her circulating online. She was completely clueless. How she got a license to fly a plane is beyond comprehension.
thank a teacher
Grrl power!
Agree, a real head-shaker for me.
In the video you can see her at one point stroking her hair. Does that mean she is nervous, doesn't know what's going on?
She buys a more advanced plane and she doesn't know where things are on the instrument panel, while in the air.
That is frightening.
I assume she had no fear and trying different switches/buttons the plane would self adjust on it's own.
Maybe she had retention issues of knowing then forgetting things. This is just a sad situation all around.
0:03 she looks like a cow chewing her cud. But don't let that fool you. She is a brilliant pilot. Or was. God rest her soul. Her cud-chewing cow soul.
She had no business whatsoever being at the controls of an airplane. Complete incompetence.
've been there. Yeah, it's not really her fault. It's easy to get disoriented in the sky especially if you're not paying attention to the heading. I've been in the same boat, so to speak. I got my pilot license shortly before my 18th birthday. The mistakes she has going on are pretty common and honestly she almost made it. That aircraft she was flying is a nice one too! I flew a little 182 Good stuff. Flying is fun!
@@beckydoesit9331unfortunately it’s was her fault, the official report pretty much suggest that she didn’t understand the basic fly pattern. On top of that, most of her video is now taking down or at least restricted to public due to evidence of her lack of skill and not trying to be harsh incompetence. This will be a very good case study for those who are trying to get in to this field to take it seriously and not just one of your TH-cam hobby. She also didn’t understand “trim” and didn’t know how to operate the “auto pilot” base on her video. She kept thinking that when she press the “ATT” button that it will automatically lvl where she wanted to go, unfortunately, she didn’t understand that she didn’t have this one system that alternate the path to her new position in the auto pilot lvl. Meaning she needed to push power/decrease (manually get there then press instead she sometime kept holding the button thinking that there was something wrong) [this was clearly shown in her video, multiple time unfortunately] if not then she would go down and base on the report, it said that the blade went 30 yard from the crush site in a bowl shape 5 m deep. Meaning the engine was on full power. The conclusion of the report is claiming that when she was using the auto pilot, she didn’t put power, which made her enter in a downward trim, when she realize she was going down, she probably try to pull up, but with that much force push down on the top of the plane and now entering in a thick trim ( think as it when you at the beach playing in that water and out of nowhere you are being sucked in) in this case she needed to pull the yolk towards her and put the trim setting on the plane “down” and someone that is as new as her, having TH-cam at the back of her mind, who didn’t still understand the basics auto pilot’s mechanic, it would still take a lot of experience to fix that error on that spot and on top of that it would be even hard for an average built male to push that yolk with that much G force as well so imagine a skinny scrawny girl. Regardless, it sucks. But it’s a lesson that we all gotta take
which is if you wanna get in to this flying thing, you gotta take it seriously, not go home and edit your TH-cam content, but instead learning the aircraft, procedure, and the manual and more
@@beckydoesit9331yeah so are you kidding?
Did u not see her videos? Her mistakes were NOT common for a certificated private pilot.
She did not demonstrate mastery in either piloting skills or judgement or even PIC authority.
She was a menace and paid the ultimate price for it. Too bad her dad paid that price too.
She had no business flying a high performance, complex aircraft. I’ve seen student pilots fare better.
It WAS her fault.
Beckydoesit has been posting this exact same comment all over videos about this incompetent "pilot" . Clearly somebody running damage control.
@@redraiderrider3289 No I haven't.
Anyone who watched all or likely even a few of her videos has a good idea of what caused the crash - absolutely devastating situation
Which is why its not devastating. It was an inevitability. We are all safer now.
how so?
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm If I were stupid, I'd be on that plane too lmfao
@@eckee Good one
've been there. Yeah, it's not really her fault. It's easy to get disoriented in the sky especially if you're not paying attention to the heading. I've been in the same boat, so to speak. I got my pilot license shortly before my 18th birthday. The mistakes she has going on are pretty common and honestly she almost made it. That aircraft she was flying is a nice one too! I flew a little 182 Good stuff. Flying is fun!
She took incompetence to a new level. One of the influencers more interested in saying they're a pilot than being one.
Felt so sorry for her father. He looked incredibly uncomfortable.
She was so incompetent, and he was feeling it.
Feeling it??? She was lost twice within sight of the airport she just took off from…someone has some questions to answer..
The DPE and flight instructor.@@vaughnharris6404
@vaughnharris6404 Absolutely right, and I think that NTSB is going to be the ones who will answer some questions with minimal evidence since the plane is basically a crumpled ball of tin foil .
It's a sad story all the way around.
Her father set the emergency brake during flight in one of her videos that I watched. Her Garmin 430 shut off unexplainably in another video and he was sitting there. He was a contributor, but she was an awful pilot. Her CFI's and DPE need to be revoked.
The video clip here isn't from this crash, though, to be clear.
If you watched any of her videos you’d see she was always behind in controlling the aircraft. She had no business being in the air. The CFI’s who signed her off need to be looked at.
Unless things have changed, CFI doesn't conduct the checkride. That's done by an FAA checkride examiner. THAT is the person who needs to be looked into. Or maybe she really did pass her checkride, oral and written exams. Lot of talk about her being incompetent, but you can't get through an FAA checkride being incompetent. At least not back when. Maybe things are different today. Has Generation Entitlement taken over that much? "Oh, hey, you identified the vehicle as an airplane! Here's your blue ribbon and pilot's license. Thank you for being you." I kind of doubt it. Aviation has always been a fairly uncompromising arena. Was she incompetent or in over her head with the aircraft? Two different things. If she had been in a 172, she might still be here.
I bet 100% she passed her oral exam…
I bet 100% she passed her oral exam…
@@mjl1966y The FAA is more interested in rubber stamps and coffee breaks than actually keeping GA safe.
@@FlyGuy2000 That's a shame, because that's definitely not how it was when I got all of my licenses and ratings 20+ years ago. Although I get the sneaking suspicion that the rise of the "get your license and "fill in the blank" number of hours in only 20 days" type of schools may have made an impact in that regard somewhere down the line.
She also had a video of her driving a car on her channel including several stop sign violations and so on. She had no clue what she was doing and it is mind boggling she got a license to fly a plane.
Oh, she knew what she was doing. She just found driving, and flying, by established rules a personal inconvenience. After all, she had the hair style and shades, so she doesn't need to operate either vehicle responsibly, right?
Most people who get fame, especially if it comes quickly, seem to suffer from the same ailment - arrogance.@@CaesarInVa
Did she actually have a license?
its not that she didnt know what she was doing while driving.....or flying......she just did whatever she thought she should.......like most ppl her age now....they do not care about rules or anything thats even responsible behavior......i dont know about everybody else's cities.....but where i live the fire dept and police sirens have gotten way louder the last few yrs.......because young ppl just cant follow the rules and crank their stereos......and most of them drive like idiots....running stop signs etc.
besides the fact she wasn't very young.@@christopher480
The title of this video about the "pilot warned about emergency" is not mentioned in your story.
Played it twice to make sure, and no it was not.
Of COURSE it wasn’t, it’s just the overwhelming ClickBaitery that has taken over TH-cam.
“ClickBait or Die!”
That’s exactly what I was looking for.
In another vid it says the pilot declared an emergency before the crash, maybe that's what this one was trying to say?
because it never happened. typical clickbait nonsense.
Complete and total incompetence killed her, how in the world did she she ever got her pilots license?
there is a certain irony in your incompetence drawing that erroneous conclusion. If you thought for even a second you might realize she was quite a bit too competent to fly the plane at a steep angle at high speed into the ground in clear daylight.
@@DanFrederiksen It's not an erroneous conclusion, if you watch her videos it'll become clear. In one video she took off and instantly get lost, while in view of the airport she just took off from, then she got back on course but instantly got lost again, still while in sight of the airport. When she took off all she had to do was turn 90 degrees right, simple, there's a compass, she even had an ipad map displayed. She didn't know how to use her equipment, radio, auto pilot, and didn't respond to air traffic control. Do you need more proof? It's a tragedy that could've been easily avoided but it doesn't change the fact that she shouldn't have been flying.
@@t3h51d3w1nd3r that's navigation, dummy. not flying into the ground.
Many many professions pass females just to pass them when they should be failed off.
Makes me wonder how she ever found the airport to land again.
Having watched some of her flying videos before they were removed, I'm surprised she ever actually managed to land an aircraft at all.
More money than brains.
don't need brains when you have pootame ! !
The fact there was a compass mounted top dead centre of the instrument cluster, so much so you had to look _over_ it to see out the windshield, yet she didn't know what direction she was flying......
I have no pity for her, part of being an adult is being able to identify your shortcomings. Her ego prevented her from ever learning how to fly, and if she picked up the BAK for the same amount of time she looked in the mirror every day then navigation wouldn't have been a problem.
Another TH-cam video said she had at least 5 compasses.
@@MrChopsticktech I guess she would have; one magnetic, her ADF, her GPS, her tablet, her phone and I'm guessing her attitude indicator would display it too. I just found it funny that she literally had to look over a compass to see out the front. It is levels of insanity that beggars belief.
does S mean Starbucks????
At least she made sure she had her Ray Ban Aviators.
with DEI she was really close to becoming your next commercial pilot✈️
God rest her soul, and that of her father, I feel very sorry for them both, and respects to the family.
However, it does show the risk of graduating people who would have failed, but for their gender, or ethnicity.
If someone flying the plane is blue with green polka dots: I don't care, as long as they are competent. No blue, green polka dot people should be barred from learning. But graduating incompetent people just because you want more blue, green polka dot people is beyond insane. It's actually evil.
@@oldbird-zm8qt I'm 100% for AI fully taking over planes, albeit we all know commercial planes will never in our lifetime be completely pilotless therefore pilot error can still happen, but with all this woke crap going on I firmly believe an AI is going to be more skilled than the next generation of pilots.
0:03 she looks like a cow chewing her cud. But don't let that fool you. She is a brilliant pilot. Or was. God rest her soul. Her cud-chewing cow soul.
@@beckydoesit9331Yeah. Heard you the first time
So true.
She was completely incompetent, and had no business being in the air. Another YT “pilot” in the cockpit for all the wrong reasons, and unfortunately took her dad with her.
her Dad has probably never said "no" to her
What worries me most is how many more of these "pilots" there will be right now carrying passengers in commercial flights around the world
@@jorger2020 I’m hoping the standards to acquire a CPL-Fixed Wing, is a lot higher than the PPL? In the past, it was easy to weed out the good pilots from the bad however, with the critical shortage of pilots(thanks mostly to the FAA’s 1500hr rule) we’re also seeing a surplus of terrible instructors, who are only in it to time build, not instruct? Along with the nonsensical DEI(Diversity Equity Inclusion) hiring practices, I fear for the future of the airline industry.
@@crazyralph6386how do you losers always manage to inject racism into y’all’s fears. It’s almost funny at this point.
@@jorger2020I'm no pilot or pilot student but I'm sure there are stricter selections and evaluations in order to fly a commercial airplane
This woman had no business flying an airplane for sure but how on earth did she get her license????
University of Phoenix
It’s actually easier than you think to get a pilots license. A few hours in the sky and simulator and you got it.
@@thetruth1140 not so sure about that pal.
@@harryagrotis326 whoever cleared her should be investigated for sure.
She had no business operating an aircraft
@@Hooligan6R .. or anything at all with an exposure to other people, really.
So we’re talking about a woman who took off from an airport and couldn’t even tell which direction she had to point the nose to get to her destination.
She accidentally turned off the Garmin 430 and had no clue how to turn it back on. Which incidentally, is the same way she turned it off.
She had no sense of direction, zero airmanship, and demonstrated complete incompetence and lack of PIC authority.
And then she was actually getting instruction for her instrument rating. What a joke. She couldn’t even handle simple VFR flight.
Let’s not talk about that idiot of a Flight instructor. She was flying with in most of her videos.
He demonstrated exactly what I’ve been advocating for years. Young Flight instructors with zero flight time under their belts other than what was required for the CFI rating then they think they can teach the FAA should have a requirement of at least 1000 hours before someone can teach someone else how to fly.
She got what she deserved. I’d have a serious talk with the designated pilot examiner that gave her her license as well as her instructors.
Too bad her dad had to pay the ultimate price.
I actually knew her. We traveled in the same circles. She was real good at planes. Shortly after her crash I decided to get one and learn to fly. She really inspired me. I just love being the clouds, so free and no rules and no one to tell you what to do. I just like to go up in the air, real high, and crawl in the backseat that I turned into a bed and read a book.
😂
@@beckydoesit9331you are seriously mentally ill and may be experiencing a mild psychosis - please see a doctor ASAP.
Ironically, wasn’t she headed to Arkansas to get the avionics “fixed”? I wonder if she thought the AP needed “fixing”, when she just didn’t know how to use it ? And shame beyond belief on her instructors who gave her a license. That video where she couldn’t find her way out of her own airport, and kept fiddling w/the AP, not aviating, should’ve been reported.
@@guitar2556 Hello. I'm actually one of the instructors who gave her the license. You guys are acting like she was drunk flying the plane. She wasn't. She just had an accident. That's it. No one else got hurt except her dad so just chill. If a woman wants to fly a plane, let her! She was one of the best students I've had too. She's a regular Amelia Earharddt, God rest her soul.
Incompetence kills.
She clearly did not read the Century 2000 manual...
Riding the the Greyhound would have been a better choice of transportation.
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm and she shared it with her Dad and they both Mastered it.
RIP
Greyhound was not going to get that plane to the shop where she was getting a new autopilot installed.
No likes and views for riding a greyhound
Darwin Award for her. Waste of a good plane and sorry her dad had to be a victim of her recklessness. I''m sure there were warning signs he ignored as well. We all make mistakes and evolution goes on.
@@darrinsteven7002 No they did not. The aircraft A/P was equipped with servos to manipulate the controls. If the aircraft is out of trim; a trim up or down signal lights up on the A/P control Panel because these servos are working too hard just like a pilot would if he/she did not properly trim the aircraft. The pilot needs to disconnect the autopilot at this point and adjust the trim to maintain straight and level flight. Then one can reconnect the Autopilot. There was no connection between the autopilot and the trim in this autopilot setup and the manual says so.
I love the part where they said the pilot was warned before the fatal plane crash.
The pilot was warned that she was off course, well before the crash. What do you love about that?
Yeah I reckon they forgot to put that part of the report in when they made it the title......
In another vid it says the pilot *declared* an emergency before the crash, maybe that's what this one was trying to say?
've been there. Yeah, it's not really her fault. It's easy to get disoriented in the sky especially if you're not paying attention to the heading. I've been in the same boat, so to speak. I got my pilot license shortly before my 18th birthday. The mistakes she has going on are pretty common and honestly she almost made it. That aircraft she was flying is a nice one too! I flew a little 182 Good stuff. Flying is fun!
@@beckydoesit9331obviously you have never watched her videos. After you do you might want to revise your “I’ve been there comment.” This person should not have been allowed to fly an airplane.
A social media narcissist who didn’t understand the concept of stop signs when she drove a car, was handed a pilot’s license by simping flight instructors who were intimidated by her looks🙄 Everyone should be thankful that she only unalived herself and her father.
Did she ever receive any instruction from a female CFI?
Looks like she was old enough to be the first instructor's mother! Maybe that intimidated him.
Yeah dude couldn’t have been older than 23
most creators are social media narcissists.
The way you're talking about someone you don't know, it's like you're describing yourself
I saw a news report that they did find two "recording devices" (likely the GoPros which she used for her Social media channels) and were reported to be fully intact. I suspect the contents of those cameras will reveal what all of her previous YT videos already showed... that her Beechcraft was just too much plane for this novice (and not very intuitive) pilot.
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm hi Mr pantyhose, no it’s true she def put people on the ground at risk, she didn’t care about lives
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm Google it, genius. Unlike you, I have facts to back me up. (Also, the grammar police told me to tell you it's "you're", not "your", lol).
She shouldn’t of had a license to fly! She should have been working on her skill as a pilot instead of trying to be some kind of celebrity! Too bad she took her Dad with her!!
Bingo.
News flash: They know EXACTLY what happened because of the recordings.
You're full of class, aren't you. Go tell Mommy.
"Business woman?" Try "narcissist." She was in way over her head. Now the only thing over her head is 6 feet of dirt.
Aren't you edgy and cool for humiliating the dead.
You seem to know a lot about someone you've never met, but you'll happily slander the deceased for internet goodboy points. Little tough redditor.
having a youtube channel now makes you a business person I guess
R.I.P. she should have never received a pilot license and probably even a driver license if she drove the way she was flying paying attention how she looked chewing gum for social media. I feel sorry for the family
she should have never been given a pilots license.
I know it's tough but they need to release the footage from the cameras that were inside the cockpit. That will show exactly what happened and why.
They won't release, but you can see it in all of her videos what happened. She played around with the autopilot aimlessly and this time it didn't play nice back. Got the aircraft far out of trim and probably still didn't know what the issue was the whole way down.
@@JayM-ww4cp NTSB says trim was 5 degrees down of a max 10 degrees down. That's not wildly out of trim. After watching some analysis of her videos, I'm not sure why the FAA did not get involved in a couple of ways: 1) with her for a 709 ride and 2) with her DPE because she probably should not have passed her checkride.
@@edwardmiller887 I did catch that in the report. I was left wondering if the trim was always in that position on the dive or, if one of them was trying to trim the nose up. I would imagine panic and G forces ensued and it's really difficult to think and troubleshoot anything you haven't drilled into your brain as a response.
Pretty sure the NTSB knows what happened based on her history alone
Why do they need to release the video to the public? So TH-cam keyboard warriors can speculate over things they don't understand for clicks?
It was an emergency every time she went wheels up. For her and others. I feel sorry for her blindly supportive father.
I know what caused that crash along with everyone else who saw her YT videos.
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm She was clueless. She got an auto pilot installed and was relying on it before it was properly set up
@@mvd4436 It was "properly set up". She just didn't know how to use it. Probably never even read the manual.
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm What makes you think she crashed intentionally?
She had a good plane, she loved flying with her dad, She loved filming herself flying...What possible reason could she have,
for wanting to die?....Do you have proof?
Actually I feel she hated flying. And couldnt wait to let the instructor, and the aircraft fly itself.@@sammytheface8821
@@sammytheface8821 she was completely incompetent and had no business being up there
My money is on the NTSB finding pilot error to be the cause.
NTSB: PILOT WARNED ABOUT EMERGENCY BEFORE FATAL PLANE CRASH is the heading of your story! What happened to that part? Falling at 12,000' /min is about 140mph, what a terrifying 30 seconds!
was just about to post the same thing, the headline seems like it's for a completely different story
I think that this video headline was done very deliberately to get more clicks by having it appear that they we're going to provide new information. Well it certainly is working for them!
If the headline was a mistake they would have changed it.
There is so much coverage of this dopey pilot that this deceptive channel knew that the only way to get hits was to deceive the public!!
Unfortunately it’s was her fault, the official report pretty much suggest that she didn’t understand the basic fly pattern. On top of that, most of her video is now taking down or at least restricted to public due to evidence of her lack of skill and not trying to be harsh incompetence. This will be a very good case study for those who are trying to get in to this field to take it seriously and not just one of your TH-cam hobby. She also didn’t understand “trim” and didn’t know how to operate the “auto pilot” base on her video. She kept thinking that when she press the “ATT” button that it will automatically lvl where she wanted to go, unfortunately, she didn’t understand that she didn’t have this one system that alternate the path to her new position in the auto pilot lvl. Meaning she needed to push power/decrease (manually get there then press instead she sometime kept holding the button thinking that there was something wrong) [this was clearly shown in her video, multiple time unfortunately] if not then she would go down and base on the report, it said that the blade went 30 yard from the crush site in a bowl shape 5 m deep. Meaning the engine was on full power. The conclusion of the report is claiming that when she was using the auto pilot, she didn’t put power, which made her enter in a downward trim, when she realize she was going down, she probably try to pull up, but with that much force push down on the top of the plane and now entering in a thick trim ( think as it when you at the beach playing in that water and out of nowhere you are being sucked in) in this case she needed to pull the yolk towards her and put the trim setting on the plane “down” and someone that is as new as her, having TH-cam at the back of her mind, who didn’t still understand the basics auto pilot’s mechanic, it would still take a lot of experience to fix that error on that spot and on top of that it would be even hard for an average built male to push that yolk with that much G force as well so imagine a skinny scrawny girl. Regardless, it sucks. But it’s a lesson that we all gotta take
which is if you wanna get in to this flying thing, you gotta take it seriously, not go home and edit your TH-cam content, but instead learning the aircraft, procedure, and the manual and more
I know you were trying to make some really good points. But you hit the reply button too soon. Edit your comments and make it make sense. There is language there and misspellings that are just all over the place which takes away from your overarching statement which I think is true but "didn’t understand the basic fly pattern. " "she didn’t have this one system that alternate the path to her new position in the auto pilot lvl."??? Basic punctuation would help as well (ie: harsh incompetence should be "harsh, incompetence") You're also missing a ton of the letter S which would go along way to making this more readable (ie: hobby should be hobbies, alternate should be alternates, sometime should be sometimes, try should be tried, and so on). Normally I do not nitpick about grammar or punctuation but a lot of what you're saying here is important for people to understand and the way that you worded it makes it very difficult, and I've been a pilot for 20 years.
@@aigtrader2984I understood him just fine. Why say lot words when few words do trick?
RIP though. Hope their family heals
Your poor English skills make your explanation impossible to understand for laymen.
@@aigtrader2984 You're complaining about their writing while having some of the worst syntax I have ever seen. Amazing!
Pilot Error. She should NOT have been PIC of ANY machine or even a bicycle.
I actually knew her. We traveled in the same circles. She was real good at planes. Shortly after her crash I decided to get one and learn to fly. She really inspired me. I just love being the clouds, so free and no rules and no one to tell you what to do. I just like to go up in the air, real high, and crawl in the backseat that I turned into a bed and read a book.
@@beckydoesit9331stop copy-pasting this lie everywhere. You’re like a mentally ill robot.
@@beckydoesit9331You actually are just a useless troll
Hey everyone look at me. I’m so hot. But then I crashed and I’m not.
The pilot not knowing what she was doing is what caused the crash.
That pretty much it !
Then she should not have been flying without a licensed instructor. She didn't seem to have too much of a sense of direction despite a very clear day with sunlight. It was hair raising when she asked her dad to help her and he started to tinker with some plugs or other switches in the aircraft. I cannot blame him, though. This situation was truly sad and didn't have to be.
I thought it was caused by the plane hitting the ground but whatever . . .
She had no business being in the sky. Had no respect for flying, only cared about youtube views and had almost no knowledge on how her autopilot worked. I'm glad most of her videos were takin down because it's a perfect example on how not to fly a plane.
Which Is a great reason to leave her videos up...will definitely be a learning guide as to what NOT to do...her videos might even save a life or two!
Finally some one said it.
I could not agree more.
We don’t really know. She could have really liked it. Lots of people document their journey. She may have been misguided we just don’t really know. I agree she had some alarming habits and it is a wonder how she got her PPL while struggling with the fundamentals of flying/basic airmanship. But I’d say that’s a harsh stance she tried getting a new cfi in one of the videos and admitted she wasn’t where she wanted to be. I think that’s a little bit of a strong stance without having known her or her situation.
Someone said there was a video of her driving her car and that she drove like she flew.
That’s the million dollar question, how’d she even get a license. Who rubber stamped that one.
a person that should never have been allowed to drive let alone fly was the cause of that crash
I'm actually one of the instructors who gave her the license. You guys are acting like she was drunk flying the plane. She wasn't. She just had an accident. That's it. No one else got hurt except her dad so just chill. If a woman wants to fly a plane, let her! She was one of the best students I've had too. She's a regular Amelia Earharddt, God rest her soul.
@@beckydoesit9331 Calling BS.
She should never have been passed on her check ride i saw several of her videos that were literally dumpster fire flights she was nowhere near capable of flying that aircraft
Both had no idea
She was a shockingly bad driver as well
ahhahah
I have a theory of the cause of the crash. The pilot was an idiot.
And whoever gave her a license
What? Where was warning about an emergency? Video is incorrectly titled and I wasted my click.
I can tell you what caused that crash. She relied too much on autopilot and changed her descent rate to a ridiculous number.
I hope the GoPro footage is made public
me too dude, at least future pilots could learn something from the mistakes she made... I would want the same if I was her..
It won't lol. If they (family) deleted all her videos off her channel they're not going to release the crash video. In this type of situation the ntsb would have to clear it with the family to release it as they're the right of kin owners.
Some of these so called plane crash experts believe the ntsb nuked her youtube channel but I don't see why they'd care at all what videos were there considering she's already dead and they already ripped her entire TH-cam page so they've watched all the videos, nothing illegal going on so no reason for them to try and scrub it.
The best we might get is an audio recording but I'm highly not anticipating any video whatsoever. Do you think your mother would upload the video of her daughter(son)/husband getting killed to youtube? I don't think so. In my mind the ntsb doesn't own the gopro footage her family does.
@@jlo7770a public interest assessment can override the desires of family. Unfortunately since she was a private pilot on a private flight, an argument for public interest and education is an uphill battle. Even “irrelevant-to-the-flight-operation” cockpit recordings of commercial flights are being hidden now because they are frequently deeply embarrassing to the families of pilots. Her family will be aggressive in hiding TNflygirls shame as an incompetent public safety risk, and will most likely win on all fronts.
@@jlo7770 What makes you think the family have access to the crash footage? It's not like they recovered the cameras from the crash site. The investigators did that.
@@drconflict629 yes and it will be their property to do as they wish with. The ntsb isn't going to just release the footage to the public and get the f sued out of them
What is with the sudden increase of new pilots declaring emergencies because they have lost control of a perfectly flyable aircraft? There is nothing anyone else can do to help you in that situation.
Trainers must be doing the tests for these people. I have no flying certifications. But I find it hard to believe they are passing these tests without actually understanding how flight works. In one of the training videos TNFlygirl had on her TH-cam the instructor was literally doing all the ATC talking, pushing all the buttons doing everything while she’s sitting in the pilots seat. In a different video with her dad riding with her She had no idea how the auto pilot worked but continued to mess with it, all the while saying it’s not working properly but decided to keep using it and yelling at it to stop when she was improperly using it. For the last flight it sounds like the reason they where flying that day was to get new autopilot system installed.
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm speak when spoken to troglodyte.
Can I get some silk pantyhose??
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm Mach 23 ? You are almost in orbit! But I am enjoying your comments. I just worry how many will take them seriously!
@@qarnos Nobody. He should reduce his Drug input.
She shouldn't have ever had her license. She clearly was not qualified. Who signed off on her license?
Complete incompetence
When you can't navigate in a car, it's frustrating. When you can't navigate in a plane, it's deadly. She should never have become a pilot. Clearly she wasn't equipped.
I don't understand what the NTBS said they don't know what caused the crash. The cameras show everything from beginning to the end at impact.
It's ok to set people straight if they are a danger to life, or hazard in the environment.
The headline does not match the content.
But her hair was perfect! “Look at me! look at me!”
Having watched some of her videos, I'd launch an investigation into who licensed her. Sadly, this could have been prevented with an instructor telling her no and that she wasn't ready.
yes, but the new rules are DEI - you can't say no to a woman (or anyone other than a white man) or your career is in jeopardy.
@@colatrl.damg3167 Not everything is 'woman' this or 'race' that. There have been bad instructors since the beginning of everything.
@@mc.9839 you are just denying reality. DEI has made everything sex and race. Used to be you assumed competency when you see doctor of any persuasion. Now we know they are hiring doctors based on DEI, so one can no longer assume competency. This particular pilot had many instructors over time. The failure was hers, however, the well trained teachers could not fail to pass her without ruining their careers. They did the best they could and hoped for the best. That is the new post-meritocracy world we live in now. Enjoy.
@@colatrl.damg3167 Do you even know what DEI is? If so, do you honestly think every company in the USA includes the policy. Hint: mine doesn't.
I wonder how many female commercial pilots got pushed through because of their gender.
Hope not!! Scary thought! 😰😨
She should never had her license.
Calling her a "pilot" is a stretch.
Yea, it’s a good thing she never became a commercial airline pilot.
What's scary is she probably could have these days, even as incompetent as she was. Too many airlines these days are hiring because someone checks the diversity boxes, not because they are a good pilot or even can be taught to be a good pilot.
Oh dear lord!!! Omg!
That was not her goal. She said she just wanted to fly her folks around on little trips now and then. Well, you don't need a high performance, complex plane to do that.
@@bobbyc2768 yep. Atlas air accident….
@@MrTruckerf Reminds me of that old saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." At least she didn't crash into an occupied building, or hit some car with a family in it. Too bad about her dad, because otherwise her bad airmanship was self-correcting.
The consequence of narcissism unfortunately.
11,900 ft/min descend rate? Yeah, I'd say it exploded on impact.
Narcissism can be deadly.
The reported descent rate of 11,900 feet per minute is 150 miles per hour.
She hit the ground at over 200 mph!
Ave descent rate of 11,900ft/min = 134mph
262
Her speed was tracked as groundspeed, over the ground. Her actual speed straight into the ground at the 50 degree angle was around 266 mph.
It averages out about Mach 1. Which is 912mph.
Sounds like spatial disorientation and probably an in flight breakup from the plane exceeding its never exceed speed...
She had two video cameras recording ever flight for her YT channel. If those video cameras survived the crash and fire that will help explain exactly what happened. She recorded her own death and that of her father.
The ntsb prelim report seems to suggest that both go pros were retrieved and are being reviewed.
@@aaronchang8228 Not sure if it's THE Video but she looked a little dazed and confused. Slow to talk. Slow response. Maybe carbon monoxide in the cabin?
We know what killed her, Incompetence!
THE video? The crash videos won't be released. There's no good reason for it. I'm sure they already watched the GoPro footage and they've seen and heard the crash. They can speak with the family about it, without telling us a thing. The public will get answers later.
@@k.larson4682it will be made public through FOIA
People keep commenting on her looks. Where are they? I’ve watched several of her videos and never noticed any………..
Agree, One of those that think they are attractive and the efforts to help convince us (heavy makeup) makes it worse.
I hope investigators are also looking at the instructors who signed off on her license. It's possible she greased a palm or two.
Or other payment
In one of her videos (now taken down) she accidently shut off her autopilot and didn't know how to turn it back on.
New pilots get their license and then all of a sudden think they can handle more powerful aircrafts, that is not the case. Same thing happened to JFK Jr.
Pretty sure he was doing cocaine in the bathroom while trying to impress a girl during the middle of a storm.
've been there. Yeah, it's not really her fault. It's easy to get disoriented in the sky especially if you're not paying attention to the heading. I've been in the same boat, so to speak. I got my pilot license shortly before my 18th birthday. The mistakes she has going on are pretty common and honestly she almost made it. That aircraft she was flying is a nice one too! I flew a little 182 Good stuff. Flying is fun!
@@beckydoesit9331 The only part of this crash that was not her fault was the decision to issue her a pilots license. And you have not been there because you are still alive. If you are becoming disoriented while flying i would suggest you seek further instruction before you decide to continue to fly. Operating as PIC without understanding the basics of flight is a deadly decision.
@@joshzimmerman1901 I actually knew her. We traveled in the same circles. She was real good at planes. Shortly after her crash I decided to get an airplane just like the one she crashed in. She really inspired me. I just love being in the clouds, so free and no rules and no one to tell you what to do. I just like to go up in the air, real high, and crawl in the backseat that I turned into a bed and read a book.
@@beckydoesit9331 'She was real good at planes'. What the heck does that mean?
to fall that fast she either flew it straight into the ground or a wing broke off of it.
First one
Click bait using a tragic event is really shameful - there is nothing to do with "pilot warned about emergency..." in this post.
She should never have been certified to fly, she lacked basic competence flying an aircraft.
WBIR you have the wrong description on this video.
She was an AWFUL pilot.
She didn't know how to operate her GPS.
She didn't know how to operate her autopilot.
She wasn't good with basic flying skills.
She was a terrible pilot.
This was a disaster waiting to happen.
How did she possibly pass her license test???
Boobs...literally.
Mile High Club
“Orally” 😉
I've read up on this.. the pilot made more than a few mistakes and recently passed your solo flight! the instructor? who? whats his name ? she shouldn't of passed. the amount of pilot mistakes she made.
Pilot error. I hope they were ready for their appointment to see the Lord Jesus
Yeah, God is love, huh?
@@davehshs651 not the Hollywood version of love we’ve been brainwashed with… that is for sure.
bible god is the devil. Look at his actions.@@SaanichtonMinistries
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm I get your point. You don't have to be so mean-spirited. We're here to edify
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lmand they forgot me 😭😭😭
She did the whole flying hobby thing for social media fake fame and likes. Girl had no business flying a bird. The dumpster fire video that is out shows her incompetence. The poor father look says it all.
Having an Instagram and TH-cam presence now makes someone a "businesswoman?"? Wow.
She was a very successful homebuilder.
she had two different businesses.
you don't toy with gravity, these planes are killing machines.
She didn't even have any business being behind the wheel of a CAR, if you've ever seen her channel.🤔
All the signs were there...yet no one bothered to listen...not even the deceased...RIP...
Sad to say but BEAUTY does NOT enable you to fly!!!… she was DESTINED to do this sooner or later! This time it was SOONER!!!☝️🙄… glad no innocent bystanders were harmed or killed!!!!
She didn’t know how to trim the plane and panicked. The plane was found with the elevator trim set to 10 degrees down. And the plane had been oscillating up and down wildly before its uncontrolled descent.
5 degrees down. The maximum deflection on a Debonair is 10 degrees.
And it was way over Vne in the dive too. With down trim she would not have had the strength to pull out of it, and even if she did, the wings would probably have broken off. Fate was sealed once she entered a dive that fast and steep.
She was not ready. Accident waiting to happen.
Pilot error...
Pilot incompetence.
It has been shown that attractive people get more praise and higher perceived ability due to their better looks. Unfortunately reality does not care if she is a pretty woman or a chubby 64 year old man. All the instructors and people that would not say NO to her contributed to her crash in a round-about way. She just did not have the what-ever to be a pilot. She had very little situational awareness. What is worse is her lax attitude about learning an auto-pilot system. She spent more time making and editing TH-cam videos than learning the systems on her plane. She mashed buttons on the auto-pilot that were momentary switches.
Makes me wonder how many people get signed off and are "flying" around like this. Prior to seeing the incompetence displayed here, i was under the illusion that everyone in the airport environment along with me, all held the same basic fundamentals of conducting safe flight. It was a good feeling, but now i see it was flawed, even though I'm sure this is an edge case. I'll definitely be more discerning of other pilots behavior from here out. Sad
I'm actually one of the instructors who gave her the license. You guys are acting like she was drunk flying the plane. She wasn't. She just had an accident. That's it. No one else got hurt except her dad so just chill. If a woman wants to fly a plane, let her! She was one of the best students I've had too. She's a regular Amelia Earharddt, God rest her soul.
I've worked in aircraft maintenance for twenty years. I no longer fly on planes after what I've seen over the past 3-4.
The skills to maintain these systems simply don't exist anymore. It's no longer possible to conduct air travel safely. I assume it's a similar situation on the piloting side. The person who signed her off probably wasn't much more competent that she was. Blind leading the blind.
@@RippDrive I used to fly commercially and one time on a stroll through the plane when I'm bored and the first officer went with me and we locked ourselves out of the cockpit at 32,000 feet and had to call a locksmith.
@@beckydoesit9331 Amelia was a lousy pilot too.
JFK jr
pilot warned about emergency? When? How?
Looking at earlier videos, It appeared that this pilot was not experienced enough
She had 400 air hours, she was just reckless, negligent, inattentive and more concerned with appearances than safety and building real competencies. Putting these together with operating an aircraft also shows a lack of regard for others.
Solo pic I bet under 50
I'm actually one of the instructors who gave her the license. You guys are acting like she was drunk flying the plane. She wasn't. She just had an accident. That's it. No one else got hurt except her dad so just chill. If a woman wants to fly a plane, let her! She was one of the best students I've had too. She's a regular Amelia Earharddt, God rest her soul.
@@beckydoesit9331 TROLL.
The pilot or the lack of piloting was the cause. She is lucky she and dad lasted as long as they did.
I'm actually one of the instructors who gave her the license. You guys are acting like she was drunk flying the plane. She wasn't. She just had an accident. That's it. No one else got hurt except her dad so just chill. If a woman wants to fly a plane, let her! She was one of the best students I've had too. She's a regular Amelia Earharddt, God rest her soul.
Watching one of her videos it was interesting to see her main interest was in trying to figure out how to make the plane fly itself so she didn't have to. Shouldn't you be a competent pilot with a IR before you mess with auto pilots?? I know the younger generations are infatuated with pushing things on their devices????
@daltonthomas901 she was 45 yrs old
She was 44 years old and had 400 hours logged. Not a child. Bonanzas are unstable in roll and having an a/p can be a boon even in the checkout process. She killed herself, her father and a nice Debbie... no, her instructors didn't serve her well and should have been able to sort out the Century a/p with her.
She wasn't exactly "younger generation"...she was 45....
@@dyer2cycle Well preserved proving older people are stupid too. My nephew took 5+ years to solo being an aviation major in community college for 6 years. His first plan was to get paid to fly heli's LOL.
17 year old mind in a 45 year old body.
Blonde doing blonde things...if she'd just learned about the sun,where it sits in the sky,instead of flying round in circles....as sharp as the front of a Peterbilt truck!
If you look at her channel all the video newer than 8 years old are either private or deleted. I'm guessing whoever took over the channel didn't like having her own footage used to critique her.
u know she is dead right?
So sad. Feel so bad for these folks and their families. God Bless RIP
Also as usual TV lies. Cockpit was not "destroyed" It was burned along with one of them.
I’m sure they are going after that examiner.
I’m sure they’re not. Everyone flies properly when there being watched, just like passing a driver’s test.
I really hope the examiner is disciplined for this. If corruption can be proved they could probably be charged with manslaughter. There's no way she legitimately passed the test.
@@rayray8687 She was not capable of flying properly in any situation.
@@brandyballoon: Thousands of people pass a driver’s exam and immediately turn into idiots the minute they have their license…we see them every day on the highways. It’s maybe not so common in the air but when you do your solos and your cross-country there’s no one in the seat beside you. The CFI has no way of knowing what you’re doing once you leave the airport. The whole idea of charging the instructor is silly nonsense.
@@rayray8687 except it’s not a drivers test. You actually have to prove you know what you are doing.
It's a miracle she managed to take off and stay in the air this long before crashing. She understood attention seeking not piloting.
Think Titan sub but in the air. Same common sense pilot.
She had no idea how to navigate the airplane and flew it into the ground.
This news headline doesn't match with its content.
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm People who read, but apparently you're not one.
@SteviPantyhose-mt5lm Explain how and how you know it.
At one point Dad must have thought, ok, there's the airport we took off from, head that way👉
This country has a great system that gives incompetence a chance to bump you off before you get an airline job.
No it's still a bad system. Having it that pilots need 1500 hours before they can get a job at an airline just means that it's the richest, not the best that get the chance.
And she wasn't even trying for the airlines. But, her instructor was. Now he has a job flying other people.
@@marek9784You only need 750 if you go to a flight school, or you can have it waived if you're an ex-military pilot. So it doesn't take riches. You can get your commercial ticket at 250 hrs and go fly for a regional or as most people do, become a CFI because the hours count.
@@marek9784 The pilots on Colgan were talking about how they never experienced icing conditions because they trained in the temperate climes of Florida. That's where the 1500 hr rule comes from. You need to be in a 135 operation, in adverse conditions, before you get that 121 regional job with an mainline flight number. (flight flown by xxx commuter under AA, UA, DL, NW, US or CO flight numbers) (OLD School).
I'm actually one of the instructors who gave her the license. You guys are acting like she was drunk flying the plane. She wasn't. She just had an accident. That's it. No one else got hurt except her dad so just chill. If a woman wants to fly a plane, let her! She was one of the best students I've had too. She's a regular Amelia Earharddt, God rest her soul.