@@ChatGPT_ChatbotTest no, a second world war DURING the peace talks in the train car, meaning somehow a second world war started while the first was still happening
That is surprisingly realistic for *a* war, but for *the* war IRL the Entente was so mad at the Central Powers, their populations so bloodied and bloodthirsty from all the casualties, they were united simply by the desire to destroy them. More than about Syria or Lebanon, the Great Revolution coule have sparked from the fact that Germany and Habsburgs lost practically nothing.
Oh no, we destroyed the world... Trust me guys, we tried our best! The urge to screw each other over was too great, so we couldn't come up with something half realistic! 😂 Edit: What we did in Samoa was awesome, I forgot about that!
Tbf there is a good chance it might just implode in the next 2 years anyways, like at the end of ww1 there was already a wave of declarations of independence, its not like the peace treaties were the only reason it dissolved
3:40 another reason why it’d be detrimental to Germany to lose the Rhineland to France is because then it’d look like france was giving Germany the middle finger!
Historians: “The Treaty of Versailles could not have been a worse deal that would inevitably lead to a Second World War.” Five TH-camrs: “Hold our beers.”
nations battling with excausted armees, this is going to become a revolutionary fest here. Wonder if the soviets just dont declare war and sweep in when everyone is dead. They really didnt care for the western nations after ww1
Dude, this war is gonna have the UK fighting a stronger central powers without any American imports, all while the British naval blockade has to contest the Mediterranean (with an iIalian Suez Canal) and the north sea. The British and French navies going up against the North Germans, South Germans, Italians, and Americans. I don't see them fully maintaining that blockade without help from the Japanese who they already pissed off with their chinese shenanigans.
One thing to remember is that Austria at this point in history is a German puppet. So without the entente to keep the separation intact this is just the mega German empire
@@Kaiser_PolarisJust imagine the Americans get pissed enough by Bri'ish commie sub warfare to declare war on the socialists and allow Japan to take the far east
Japan hated the communists and was too reliant on American imports to help the British-French side. They would almost certainly join the Americans in order to steal colonies from the British and French.
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 it was Germany Austria hungry and the ottoman's btw it is not austro Hungarian empire because it disintegrated because of revolutions
I love this timeline because all my great grandparents would have had to un-Anglicize their German last names like two years after they were forced to Anglicize them xD Half the midwest when Britain declares war and Germany stays by our side: "TOLD YOU SO!" (or something like that)
i love how this starts out somewhat normal then we descend to two of the central powers gaining hella land and 2 of the entente members uniting and declaring war on the us
Hungary: Austria, you will not expand into southern Germany and add yet more germans to the empire. I forbid it! Entente: Hey Austria, you want all of southern Germany? It's yours if you want it. Hungary: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
@@andriusgimbutas3723 That was the one in which the communist party that ruled Hungary at the time went on full Allahu Akmarx and then proceded to get shanked by all of their neighbours, right?
@@andriusgimbutas3723 Trianon was amazing, what are you talking about, peace treaty that would actually work, if there was no big Germany helping Hungarians
What's kinda funny is, despite Britain screeching about how superior their navy was, it was actually *very* equal between them and the Americans. Assuming the German navy doesn't scuttle itself at Scapa Flow, it's actually the American/German/Italian alliance that has the superior fleet. With the naval treaties not happening due to the war being over, the Americans are only poised to get stronger compared to the Brits - especially considering that Britain is currently(?) in the middle of a socialist revolution and their economy just imploded.
Can't believe we finally got the remaster, it was the main game with that cliffhanger ending. We got 2 more dlcs then that was it. Can't believe they're finally revisiting this classic
Hungary: The Romanians just captured Budapest, there is nothing we can do The two dudes who where sent to Versailles: "It might seem crazy what i'm about to say"
Yeah, the Romanians were told by the allies to retreat and didn't in our timeline. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian%E2%80%93Romanian_War) At the time the Versailles treaty was signed, Romanian troops were already at the Tisza and two months away from occupying Budapest. Several other countries had broken free of A-H. I imagine everyone involved would just ignore the treaty.
in another timeline they came up with versailles in this video all comments be like: "surely this wont cause another major war to break out. they truly achieved lasting peace"
Best video yet, give the diplomats goals so that it's both history and stopping the Americans from going imperialist. also it looks like the Habsburgs wan the war. And I love how France and Britain when revolutionary Instead of Italy
That would want to collapse in five seconds but there may be enough Germans to keep the separate Slavic identities from attempting to get away. Imagine South Germany just giving the Slavic lands to Bulgaria dominated Yugoslavia just to get rid of the headache as the Hungarians get absolutely shafted lol.
@@quinkana1 5 seconds is too optimistic, I think even Poland and Romania would join the fun + there is bunch of angry elite Czechoslovak legionars coming from Russia
12:00 "Italy was just happy to be involved, with saying yes whenever they got offered something" That's the cutest thing I've ever seen in the video 🇮🇹😭🙏
If I was America in this peace deal I would have gotten so sick of Britain and France's shit that I would have just made any deal I could with Italy and the Central Powers just to screw them over for being such massive warmongers.
I feel that giving the central powers 2 votes was a bit much. I think it’d be funny if the central powers didn’t have any votes and could only beg for mercy
I feel like making a game out this, grabbing a group of my nerd friends and making them bicker over different treaties in history It would be fun and a good rest of how strong the friendship is.
I feel like this got close to being realistic this time, but then it fell apart. I think the central powers did get a little too much sway in this as well seeing as historically they had very little influence at all
Did I miss the one where your viewers voted on Versailles? Or is it just far more messed up and therefore you need several months to wrap your brain around it? :-)
What Russia "started" would have just been the Third Balkan War if Germany stayed out. Germany's intervention truly created what we called the Great War. _They_ expanded it beyond a contained regional affair to a larger continental conflict.
I think it's hilarious that it's less of the Central Powers diplomatic prowess and more of the Entente being at each other's throats
As an unbiased outsider, I'd have to disagree :P
Its more the voting system was rigged in Central Powers favor, since Entente had to be unanimous.
@@possiblehistory I like how it slowly devolved into a communist revolution and a second world war immediately after the first one
@@ChatGPT_ChatbotTest no, a second world war DURING the peace talks in the train car, meaning somehow a second world war started while the first was still happening
That is surprisingly realistic for *a* war, but for *the* war IRL the Entente was so mad at the Central Powers, their populations so bloodied and bloodthirsty from all the casualties, they were united simply by the desire to destroy them.
More than about Syria or Lebanon, the Great Revolution coule have sparked from the fact that Germany and Habsburgs lost practically nothing.
The Habsburgs growing In size after ww1 is actually hilarious
Blessed Karl was blessed in this timeline
Yes bcs they most likely lost everything anyways bcs none of the minor states wanted to stay like ungary would be definetly against it
@@matthiuskoenig3378I support this as cannon
“Wait we are European so what if we just draw a straight line.” Was surprisingly funny and unexpected.
and surprisingly accurate
The random bulge is also very funny and can be seen in many straight line borders
@@gr3avy US state borders are even more questionable but, this is just....I need to call Lucy if there's a free spot in Hell-
@gr3avy
Actually, it's surprisingly inaccurate. Just a historically inaccurate meme.
@@dagsommar3713 Look at a map of Africa and the Middle-East. Describe the borders for me.
what a stable, totally peaceful europe!
Yes
I don't see what could ever go wrong here!
@@rewriting-history no reply?
@@lisabrown4852 no
@@rewriting-historycan we have a alternative history with this map😅
Oh no, we destroyed the world... Trust me guys, we tried our best! The urge to screw each other over was too great, so we couldn't come up with something half realistic! 😂
Edit: What we did in Samoa was awesome, I forgot about that!
What are you talking about? This is highly realistic
This is what happens when you don’t give me Syria
Hey, better let Americans liberate the whole Europe with Russian Empire! Just make EU and remove the borders lmfao
@@apineapple3177 It is, I really liked that it didn't look nowhere close to what we had IRL. This makes it a lot better
The Russian watching in the distance: 🍿🗿
the fact that austria-hungary just ended up being even larger makes this peace conference even more hilarious💀
It was the Habsburg empire, not A-H
Tbf there is a good chance it might just implode in the next 2 years anyways, like at the end of ww1 there was already a wave of declarations of independence, its not like the peace treaties were the only reason it dissolved
@@LuckyWolfUnleashed the habsburgs ARE ah
3:40 another reason why it’d be detrimental to Germany to lose the Rhineland to France is because then it’d look like france was giving Germany the middle finger!
Wait thats based tho xD
😂
same thing with post-ww1 germany to the baltics and russia
The US player had the goal of creating a peace that would last for generations. It lasted 0 seconds.
in fact, it lasted less, cuz they started the war before closing peace treaty
-1 hour@@lev_kozakov
basically everyone gonna declare war the second they get out of the conference room
@@ThePaulista *yes.*
A true American
I love how Bulgaria only grew in size and lost nothing.
Ey, i just noticed how they gained more land. Lucky them.
Kinda like after WW2; in this scenario, the only way Bulgaria reasonably gains land is if they change government entirely.
Historical btw
Just like in WW2, people forget that Bulgaria did anything and let them keep what they gained during the war.
Same with austria=hungary (havent watched full vid)
"Italy was just happy to be involved" is the funniest thing I could imagine hearing about a world-reorganizing treaty negotiation.
Alternative title: What if Bavaria won WW1
lol
The Czechoslovak legion was fighting for nothing 😢
They will revolve around the world toll they get their czechoslovakia
considering the massive war at the end i doubt the treaty terms would last long or even enforceable in many cases
@@cosmosyn2514 true but where did they go after The war there was nowhere to go after Vladivostok
@@mr_salgarii473To South-German-Hungary-Serbia!
@@Genburthing Theyre we're fighting against them and most of them were from austrio-hungeryen army (so traitors)
How did they somehow pull a Kaiserreich (French and British Revolutions) when the video was about Versailles
They didn’t give me Syria
@@rippedlincoln understandable
@@rippedlincolnI too start reading Marx after not receiving Middle Eastern holdings in a peace conference
The comment that I, and many others, wanted to make first. Why is there so much bias towards a Central Powers victory in the alt hist community?
@@lljkgktudjlrsmygilugno nazis if the Germans win, and nazis are overdone
Historians: “The Treaty of Versailles could not have been a worse deal that would inevitably lead to a Second World War.”
Five TH-camrs: “Hold our beers.”
At least the Second World War after our timeline's Versailles took 21 years to start. This one literally kicked off before the ink dried.
@@gengarzilla1685 is that even a WW2 or would that timeline consider it just a continuation of WW1?
nations battling with excausted armees, this is going to become a revolutionary fest here. Wonder if the soviets just dont declare war and sweep in when everyone is dead. They really didnt care for the western nations after ww1
@@vinsonli302 it would probably be considered a seperate war if only cause of the major sides change
The treaty of Versaille was pretty reasonable honestly. Not much could have been done better.
entente: *wins the great war and becomes communist*
central powers: *loses the war and "stays the same"*
Kaiserreich on acid
I love how France turns comminist just to get Syria
Very fitting, when you consider the ruin they put themselves in from trying to keep Algeria and Indochina.
What if everything went perfect for Monarchist Italy?
Dude, this war is gonna have the UK fighting a stronger central powers without any American imports, all while the British naval blockade has to contest the Mediterranean (with an iIalian Suez Canal) and the north sea. The British and French navies going up against the North Germans, South Germans, Italians, and Americans. I don't see them fully maintaining that blockade without help from the Japanese who they already pissed off with their chinese shenanigans.
One thing to remember is that Austria at this point in history is a German puppet. So without the entente to keep the separation intact this is just the mega German empire
Honestly Japan might join the central powers to get their lands that they were promised
@@Kaiser_PolarisJust imagine the Americans get pissed enough by Bri'ish commie sub warfare to declare war on the socialists and allow Japan to take the far east
Japan would need its own revolution to support the british and french after they turned to these radical ideologies.
Japan hated the communists and was too reliant on American imports to help the British-French side. They would almost certainly join the Americans in order to steal colonies from the British and French.
“New England is getting renamed to New Germany.” I love it!
I would love to see this style of conference done again, with even more TH-camrs representing individual nations
And the next topic I hope is; "What if TH-camrs conducted the WW2 surrender of the Axis"
I wonder if they went straight to WW3 in this scenario lol
I'm making my own version of this type of game. Do you want to join?
As a czech I'm outraged to the furthest extent.
As a Dutchman I'm watching with a bucket of popcorn.
As a Bavarian I wish we'd stopped at the Bohemian-Bavarian-Beer commonwealth
The Czech legion basically fight for less that nothing lmao
As a brit I have fully embraced communism
As a pole I'm saddened very much
i think giving 2 votes to the central powers made them a little too influential in the conference 😅😅😅
and that was perfect as it allowed the "Even greater war" to begin lol.
Especially as historically that would just mean giving Germany two votes as they had purported the other powers by this point
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 it was Germany Austria hungry and the ottoman's btw it is not austro Hungarian empire because it disintegrated because of revolutions
Could've given Germany 1 vote and the others 1 vote combined.
The ottoman empire and bulgaria surrendered, while Austria and Germany got as many votes as the UK or France
I love this timeline because all my great grandparents would have had to un-Anglicize their German last names like two years after they were forced to Anglicize them xD
Half the midwest when Britain declares war and Germany stays by our side: "TOLD YOU SO!" (or something like that)
I did not understand sorry, can u explain
Possible History videos are always just absolute bangers
This alternate peace treaty just caused WWII to happen almost right away.
‘This is not a peace treaty, it is an armistice for twenty minutes.’
@@gengarzilla1685
Technically speaking, war had broken out even before anyone had put down their signatures.
i love how this starts out somewhat normal then we descend to two of the central powers gaining hella land and 2 of the entente members uniting and declaring war on the us
Saying the Japanese get nothing was pretty real! they kept to that alteast.
Cant wait to see what viewers did. This must be an internal chaos
Hungary: Austria, you will not expand into southern Germany and add yet more germans to the empire. I forbid it!
Entente: Hey Austria, you want all of southern Germany? It's yours if you want it.
Hungary: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Your comment just made me realize, in this timeline, the hungarians are screwed, we might as well forget that they're part of the empire 😅
@@SeptimoBasico-nu8uh everything better than Trianon
@@andriusgimbutas3723 That was the one in which the communist party that ruled Hungary at the time went on full Allahu Akmarx and then proceded to get shanked by all of their neighbours, right?
@@andriusgimbutas3723 Trianon was amazing, what are you talking about, peace treaty that would actually work, if there was no big Germany helping Hungarians
@@patrikmodrovsky1842 Well, not for Hungary
As an Austrian I love this current peace deal
How close are Bavarians and Austrians culturally anyway?
@@the11382 Quite similar. Many say that they are virtualy the same and many here call bavaria: "The 10th Bundesland (state)"
The British when they have to draw an important border that will affect the peace of the world for centuries: 1:50
What's kinda funny is, despite Britain screeching about how superior their navy was, it was actually *very* equal between them and the Americans. Assuming the German navy doesn't scuttle itself at Scapa Flow, it's actually the American/German/Italian alliance that has the superior fleet. With the naval treaties not happening due to the war being over, the Americans are only poised to get stronger compared to the Brits - especially considering that Britain is currently(?) in the middle of a socialist revolution and their economy just imploded.
Judging by the first pfp the Brits switched to... it's um... a more "National" flavor of socialism
And don‘t forget the dominions who could join the US or declare independence in this Chaos.
Where we're going we don't need a economy
I imagine this is how Versailles actually occurred lol
Guten Tag. Immer gerne 😊
You know you're obsessed with mapping if you make actual humor out of it and laugh at the map😂
Austria-Hungary : *loses war*
Also Austria-Hungary : *gains territory*
This video is honestly the best althistory video probably in the whole year. If you had uploaded it sooner, i would have voted for it.
Can't believe we finally got the remaster, it was the main game with that cliffhanger ending. We got 2 more dlcs then that was it. Can't believe they're finally revisiting this classic
I always wondered why the Central Powers weren't allowed to be part of the negotiation.
Now it makes sense! 🤣🤣🤣
Make another video : “5 youtubers caused WWII in 1930”
*1925
1918*
*1919@@EmperorRyuTokugawa
This is Basically a Hoi IV mod
@@piercebunge4297
Extended the War*
Love these collabs! You're all amazing! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Appreciate to hear it! You're also amazing for supporting us!
@@rewriting-historynp
18:51 Possible History tries to draw a dollar sign
17:49 20:31 YES! lets go Blessed Karl! AEIOU! Thanks for streghtening the Habsburgs!❤❤❤
The chin persists
Hungary: The Romanians just captured Budapest, there is nothing we can do
The two dudes who where sent to Versailles: "It might seem crazy what i'm about to say"
Yeah, the Romanians were told by the allies to retreat and didn't in our timeline. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian%E2%80%93Romanian_War) At the time the Versailles treaty was signed, Romanian troops were already at the Tisza and two months away from occupying Budapest. Several other countries had broken free of A-H. I imagine everyone involved would just ignore the treaty.
Alternative title: 5 nerds play with maps
in another timeline they came up with versailles in this video
all comments be like: "surely this wont cause another major war to break out. they truly achieved lasting peace"
I don't think there will be much of a world for Possible History to make this collab in the alternate Versailles timeline
I genuinely can't wait for part 2. This was hilarious!
That in the name of the tsar dlc joke took me a while to realize.
Best video yet, give the diplomats goals so that it's both history and stopping the Americans from going imperialist. also it looks like the Habsburgs wan the war. And I love how France and Britain when revolutionary Instead of Italy
The peace conference turns into alternative WW2 only like a month or 2 after the first some much for “the war to end all wars”
Bro this was amazing 💀
I was not expecting a new potential world war immediately off the bat
Can you please make a “What if EVERYTHING went perfect for Japan” video?
Imagine the poor american soldier imidiatly after the peace deal just casually switching trenches to the german side.
Austria be like a small price for a big empire
That would want to collapse in five seconds but there may be enough Germans to keep the separate Slavic identities from attempting to get away.
Imagine South Germany just giving the Slavic lands to Bulgaria dominated Yugoslavia just to get rid of the headache as the Hungarians get absolutely shafted lol.
@@quinkana1 5 seconds is too optimistic, I think even Poland and Romania would join the fun + there is bunch of angry elite Czechoslovak legionars coming from Russia
We did this in grade 9 history class almost exactly
(Although we had more nuanced and specific goals (eg. Tyrol or preserving the monarchy))
12:00
"Italy was just happy to be involved, with saying yes whenever they got offered something"
That's the cutest thing I've ever seen in the video 🇮🇹😭🙏
If I was America in this peace deal I would have gotten so sick of Britain and France's shit that I would have just made any deal I could with Italy and the Central Powers just to screw them over for being such massive warmongers.
The part at about 1:40 reminds me of Oversimplified: (The Pig War)
"Straight Line?" "Straight Line."
the heck is going on at the end, i thought it was supposed to be peace negotiations
I think the Central Powers were a little too powerful. Also, the Entente completely collapsed.
They better have done justice to Italy (and Marklin better do well)
He did do fantastic
Darn you just changed pfp
@@poffy02 you noticed
@@GigaRoman yes
How do you attempt Versailles and end up creating Kaiserreich timeline?
US-UK tensions.
This was such a fun video concept. I'd love to see this for other peace conferences like Westphalia or Berlin
I assume the Paris Conference ended in a fistfight between the Entente representatives
Well that escalated quickly. Can't wait to see the continuation. 😲
The UK and France declaring war on the US was amazing XD
I love how this “peace” treaty immediately resulted in ww2 in 1918
I feel that giving the central powers 2 votes was a bit much. I think it’d be funny if the central powers didn’t have any votes and could only beg for mercy
I feel like making a game out this, grabbing a group of my nerd friends and making them bicker over different treaties in history
It would be fun and a good rest of how strong the friendship is.
Austria looses war! Gains 20 million citizens!
What in the Kaiserreich?
Amazing video! I loved this concept.
I cant believe how much money i spend on this. But it was worth it
The fact that one of you guys got two votes made it so lopsided it was amazing
suggestion: if 5 youtubers redo the end of WW2
This is one of those channels that I’m excited for each upload
I think the biggest thing that made this fun(and consequently more unrealistic) was the amount of diplomatic prowess the central powers had.
Man I wish I could participate in one of these. It looks so dang fun.
11:21 so I take it the Venetians were in charge of negotiating on the Italian side?
I honestly didn’t expect this out comme
What if everything went perfectly for Britain?
Yall shouldve gotten alternate history hub for this
Can’t wait for the Gomberg Map.
I've been waiting for this one!
This would make for an extremely dramatic hoi4 multiplayer game.
You should do if everything went perfect for Sweden, the Deluge should be mainly focused on.
Best peace deal you’ve done so far! Peace in our time!
I had waited so long for this video
The negotiation Idea is very cool! Hello from Russia ❤️
I feel like this got close to being realistic this time, but then it fell apart. I think the central powers did get a little too much sway in this as well seeing as historically they had very little influence at all
It's like if Versailles was Vienna.
video idea: what if the english republic worked
It would be awesome to see a video redoing the treaty of Versailles but if Russia didn’t leave world war 1
Did I miss the one where your viewers voted on Versailles? Or is it just far more messed up and therefore you need several months to wrap your brain around it? :-)
Definitely the second one! The series will return in January, and I hope it will be the best episode yet!
@@possiblehistoryI’m excited for it, most hyped vid for me
@@possiblehistoryI’m ready for the sudden WW2
I’m early yay!!!
Love your vids and so excited for a new video
Could have tried bargaining for a larger Bulgaria
This shit is... PROBABLY the funniest stuff on your channel, we kid you not! XD
As an Italian, I confirm: WE LOVE CANALS!
This would actually make for a really fun board game
vid idea: what is the Russian Empire started ww1
It kind of did
What Russia "started" would have just been the Third Balkan War if Germany stayed out. Germany's intervention truly created what we called the Great War. _They_ expanded it beyond a contained regional affair to a larger continental conflict.
this would actually be such an entertaining war. we need to see how it folds out
WE NEED A PART 2!!!
Can we for once get someone to represent the split-away states of central powers and russia, for once in this genre of videos, please...