Aside from IRL pilots, there are a lot of people who enjoy playing flight simulation apps like MSFS, X-Plane, and Infinite Flight. I think that generates a lot of interest, and if there's a demand the videos will be made.
I used to fish out of MCRD Marina, and would spend the night before next to the fence at the end of the runway; most flights ended around 10-11 PM. Marine would wake us at the appropriate time, during their patrols.
I flew the Boeing 757 into San Diego dozens of times before my retirement from United Airlines in 2015 and rate it and LaGuardia as the 2 toughest airports to land at during my career. If memory serves, Runway 27 had a threshold displaced 2,600 feet. While the runway was 9,401 feet long, with the 2,600 foot displaced threshold, we only really had 6,800 feet for landing, 200 feet shorter than at LGA. We hardly noticed the hill, but that damned parking garage always got our attention! You can see the parking garage at the 7:47 mark in the video. Thanks for the memories!
was it urban legend or truth that the Parking Garage encouraged pilots to park in their garage on top deck? Story we in San Diego have heard since it was built. BTW the controversy about that garage never led to its removal unlike the office tower near Montgomery Field which had its top 2 stores lopped off when it was revealed a crooked San Diego Mayor allowed the developer to build taller than he should have been allowed.
@@ddhsd i remember that bloody office building being built - i told my dad that it looked awfully tall to be that close to the end of the runway. Then we both laughed when the top two floors were 'unbuilt' - what a waste of money!
@@altemp100 it's pretty scary when you're driving on the 5 past the end of 27 and the parking garage and can pretty much count the rivets on the underbelly of a big jet . . . and notice that the jet is *below* the level of the top floor of the garage as it passes by! [we were so PISSED when that garage went up!]
I grew up in Hong Kong and lived in one of those 4 story buildings less than 1/2 mile to Kai Tak Airport. Those 747 used to head directly west onto the mountain behind us, then made a 360 turn to east at the sight of the "checkerboard". Leveled from 45 degree tilt, then passed less than 40 feet over our roof. Then crabbing onto the runway. I had no idea what the glide slope looked like. They even did that in strong wind and rain. They took off the same way. Those were the best pilots in the world. I loved to see 747 sitting on our roof, Years later, my dream came true, I became a Manufacturing Engineer working on the 747 line in Boeing Everett, WA. Then 777, 787.
Oh my gosh, I am 72 yrs of age and seeing this landing in San Diego is almost my dream come true……number one dream is to be sitting in the copilots seat. Thank you. Ken M. Loveland, CO.
My grandmother used to take me to Boom Trenchards, a restaurant just to the right of EOR. There were speakers at each table to listen to ATC. Somedays we would just park there and watch the planes land. This was back in '75-'76 time frame. Grandma passed last November. Thank you for the video. Brings back alot of happy memories.
As kids in the mid-70s, we loved Booms. Our parents would take us there once a year as a treat. Their kaiser roll bun cheddar cheeseburgers were still the best I have ever had! (of course, it was ironic that a restaurant named after the Father of the Royal Air Force (Then the Royal Flying Corps) would feature a "kaiser" roll! It was fun to listen to the ATC chatter on the headsets.
@@RighteousReverendDynamite I loved Boom's as well - it started my lifelong interest in flight. And thank you for the kind comment about the food - my dad had oversight of that restaurant and others in the San Diego area in the 70s, and he created that burger. We tried out many test iterations at home and I still remember how good it was. 😊
Yes, LINDEBERGH tower, not San Diego. I got reminded of this on vatsim the other day - lol. These are incredible videos, though. I'm just jealous, and that's the reason for the snarky comment. Thanks for letting us sim pilots into the real world.
Much respect - I don't understand how these guys can understand each other when they're talking over each other pretty much non-stop. That stuff drives me nuts.
@@Joe-bm4wx That might explain why I could never be a pilot, though the thought had crossed my mind at one time. I also have hearing loss, which might also explain things.
@@Eupher72120Definitely agree. Our brains have to do so much more calculations when we miss a lot of the full spectrum of speech and sometimes it’s just too much. However, when it’s a situation repeated many times that’s much like the difference between learning a language and growing up with it, to me anyway.
My hometown! I’ve flown in and out many times. The views are amazing, but the drop in his hard for the pilots. I thank them every time for getting us in safely. Only one major accident ever in 1979 and it wasn’t because of the airport. It was a pilot error. A midair collision with a Cessna. Massive disaster. As dangerous as it is, I always feel safe flying in.
Yeah, I heard that, too. Maybe the right seat is training the left seat? Is that a possibility? N150MB is a Challenger which most recently appears to be owned by an "equipment leasing company" in St. Louis.
@@quackgarage9551 issn't that why there are 2 pilots flying?? so one always there to run checks and watnot ?? :) HEHEHe lets just hope it don't have to get all KLINGON BIRD OF PREY rules on the next vid/landing.... (and how about that go around they forced too, cuz their 130 slopoke incommin speed??? hehe and they still took ''long time'' to get over the ''out of the way'' line... (hold short line)
but we only there rideing seeing an edited video... soo eh... still... seems that there were ''glitches'' in proceedores.... or ''laxadaisychecking'' ??
Taking off from San Diego is another beautiful view. When planes heading East make the left turn a couple miles out over the ocean, you can see the entire coastline if you're sitting by the window on the right side, and the left you'll also see the coastline and Coronado Bridge. A few years back, I saw large pod whales from my window seat.
@@MichaelSmith-df5pz Yes, I agree with you about those left turns further out into the ocean and then the turning sequences begin. That is the same for taking from LAX. Departing Los Angeles I have always seen a couple of super tanker ships parked in the ocean. It is always interesting to me to that!! ☺
Good for you for telling him to get off the runway. I noticed the same thing at that SNA video. Clearly this isn’t a one time thing, but a deficiency in his pilot training. I would have a serious but polite talk with him when not flying that if he does that again you’ll be talking with the chief pilot about it.
I’m a new pilot (110hrs) and that’s the first thing I thought. I was like dang I can fly that plane if someone said this guy can. Kind of eye opening TBH
like even when the fo had to point out that hes not off the runway cuz he didt pass the hold short line is such common stuff and crazy how you can forget that
@@AllAboutAuto31 yeah good job on the FO for being on top of everything, but its not safe that the FO has to tell the captain where to go and to clear the runway when there is traffic on final behind them. I'm very interested to know how that captain found himself in the left seat of a Challenger and who put him there.
Born and raised in San Diego and we lived near the flight path on Pt. Loma. Remember how we would could only talk on the phone between planes. 😂 There was a open air theater in Balboa Park called Starlight Bowl, and in the summer, there would be plays at night. All the actors would stop and wait till the planes went over head. Good times.😊 I really enjoyed seeing the approach from the cockpit perspective.
As a resident in the 4th and Elm area, We can read the tire manufacturer's logo on the landing gear so every plane coming in gives me a slight "pucker response". I cant imagine a 1st time landing at Lindberg.
I like eating dinner at Mr A's off to the right side of the aircraft on final approach. You see these flights coming in and you are about level with the aircraft from the restaurant.
I flew this approach in FDX B727, MD10 and MD11 aircraft. It was a handful in the 11. San Diego Lindbergh Field is a classic example of retail and city leaders with no appreciation of flight operations.
I lived in San Diego for 35 years, right below the glide path intercept where you dropped the gear. I saw the school behind my house and the road I lived on.
If you are referring to the large church school on the flight path, it's called the "City Tree". It's a private school in downtown and I actually went to Elementrary school there :)
Concerning that the PIC doesn't know what side of the lines he needs to be on...time for some additional training. No room for "close enough" on runway incursions.
Yeah, whatever operation this is is sketch. Wouldn't want anything to do with it. Captains that don't know this shit, have horrible CRM, can't do basic comms. This guy is obviously a good pilot but he better hope he doesn't ruin his career over flying with people like that.
This must be the reason he's blurred in the video. Also, it sounded like the UAL pilot was really peeved he had to go around. I'm not sure, but the controller seemed to imply that the challenger was flying the approach too slow on final. I could be wrong about that, though.
Most citizens arent aware how challenging this approach is especially with weather or a low ceiling. The Alladin parking structure sits at 5 stories just west of I-5 and requires a steep sink rate prior to landing. It’s crazy in a heavy 777
Thank you for sharing your flight a landing in San Diego International Airport. Really nice and smooth. I use to come in with my former airline on their Airbus 320s and a couple of 757s.😊 San Diego is a beautiful city to fly by closely.
Recall there was considerable controversy when that parking structure (Laurel Street) was put up, for exactly the reasons discussed in the comments. Always fun flying home to SD, always on the left side (window), great views of the harbor, carriers at North Island, etc. And sometimes on take-off, on the right side, you can see the boots doing obstacles and physical training next door at MCRD. And on the 4th hole of the Balboa 9-hole golf course, the approaching planes come right over you, and fairly low. So glad that 40 years of (mostly thumb-fiddling, wasted) effort failed to move the airport! It's a unique feature of an amazing city.
This approach from a passenger view, especially on the left, is stunning. I've heard pp joke one can see people hanging their laundry on apartment windows passing by. Also fun is always the takeoff from Santa Ana. As pilots cut their throttle for noise abatement and level off there is always a feeling of weightlessness. Also, the approaches to 28L/28R are impressive into SFO when pax only see water until the last few seconds until touchdown. I always preferred the left side as a pax, seeing San Mateo come into view and watching hwy 101 become larger and larger...
Was based at the former Navy training center off Rosecrans St - on foggy days you could see the wingtip vortices of arriving jets, had a wicked sound to them like someone twirling a bullwhip very fast .
Former Boeing... Love the smart 'planners' who put a multistory parking garage smack dab in way just before runway... been in and out of SAN multiple times... both on 27 and 9... last time in was on 27 during high winds, driving rain, and wind shear... completely blind... didn't know if we were going to land in parking garage or on runway... very happy it was runway...
@@betho8736 : Likewise. San Diegan born and raised, and for the life of me I also could never understand who signed away on that decision? Of all places, right?
What's the gear clearance over that structure? I don't live in SD, but have been in and out visiting family in Oceanside and have had the same "who put that there" thought.
living in San Diego, I've landed here over a hundred times, but never seen it from that point of view! Always wondered about accessing the east side of the runway (cargo/private) too.
I've landed there as a passenger over 100 times over the last 30 years or so. A few times the pilot has landed long, once so long that the plane landed hard with passengers screaming or gasping at the landing and the breaking afterward. I know we landed long because we take the last exit off the runway. 747s generally don't land there, but back in the late 90s there was a British airline that was doing it pretty regularly.
So cool! My house is pretty much under the flight path to KSAN and at 2:35 in the video, I can see my neighborhood. You're coming up on Mt. San Miguel (with the antennas on it on your right) and the Sweetwater Reservoir where the helicopter was taking on water, and to the left you see a collection of commercial buildings. The commercial building closest to you is in a chevron shape with a white roof and I'm within walking distance of that building. Regarding the new construction, SAN is building a brand new Terminal 1 (used mostly by Southwest) to replace the small, dated existing Terminal 1. I believe that once the new terminal is open, they'll demolish the old one and then expand the new Terminal 1 even further.
I lived in San Diego for 47 years. I loved going in and out of San Diego, starting with PSA in the mid-60’s, better known to the military as Poor Sailors Airline. I was bummed when they sold out Southwest. The charm of the airline went away.
i got my student licence through a high school program (this approach flies right over my high school!) and we flew out of Gillespie. The landscape had so many memories . . . i was so nervous that one of my solos was going to be at KSAN; no, it was at Ramona, and some circuits of Brown and Gillespie. But we did overfly KSAN once - whooooo! i got that student licence just before graduating, then discovered just how expensive it was. i wasn't able to continue after that, and i suspect i'd have to start all over now. A few years ago i did finally get to go up in a sailplane - OMG that was marvellous. (Stalls were some of my favourite practise - cut the engine and just let it float . . . i did give the instructor heart failure once when i was too blissed out on the sensation to realise just how close we were getting to Mt Miguel, but he just cleared his throat and i throttled back up. Getting a C172 to stall by myself was hard.) i did love it whilst i was doing it!
Flew into SAN many times back in the late 80s working for Continental. Had to deplane on stairs. One time it was particularly cloudy/foggy. When I was deplaning, the Captain was standing outside the cockpit and said thanks or whatever. I jokingly said, well, we missed the parking garage. He just laughed a little because he knew exactly what I was talking about, and said, "yeah, we almost diverted to LAX." I was curious as to whether it was still there and sure enough.
That parking garage right just before landing made it that much more difficult. I remember that garage being built in the 80s, and at the time many wondered how it even got approval to be built so close to the runway, even made the local news concerning this.
My first time into SAN was 1974 while building time for my commercial. I was dual, max gross x-country from Tucson with two pax in a Mooney 201 (M20J). I was getting my 10 hours dual in the Mooney for the insurance and my instructor said. "Let's go to San Diego for lunch." I volunteered two friends to come along as baggage for the max gross component and off we went. This aircraft had manual gear and manual pump flaps. The weather was perfect until we got to the San Diego area. The fog was moving in, and it was Special VFR when we checked in with approach control. This was my first Special VFR arrival and, before I could request it, they sequenced us into the pattern. The little Mooney was FAST! They had me enter a Right Downwind on the North side of the airport about mid-field. There are no speed brakes on a Mooney! I could barely see the airport as I turned downwind and tried to slow down. When I got to maximum gear speed I dropped the gear, still trying to slow down. The tower called my base, and I was still fast and high as I pumped down the flaps while turning base. I had to slip to lose altitude as I turned final. I handled all of that and as I relaxed as we settled on the runway, tower said, "77U, expedite!" We were barely off the runway and I looked over my left shoulder and saw a PSA DC-9 had just landed. Leaving SAN was easy!
I flew into KSAN many times several years ago as a captain on a Boeing 737, mostly the -300 which had analog displays with no moving map or GPS. All they had then was a localizer approach. There were no GPS approaches that we could use. If you had to shoot that approach to minimums it sometimes resulted in a long landing since the MDA was kind of high. I remember thinking about how close to the landing gear seemed to be to the parking garage that you fly over on short final to RWY 27. Nice video.
How does a challenger pilot not know to taxi beyond the hold short bars before clear🙇🏻♂️ If he called clear and ATC sequenced another takeoff, it would be a runway incursions….good on the co-pilot 😳
Not true. As long as the Local Controller has not issued a restriction to an exiting aircraft entering an adjacent taxiway while said aircraft is continuing forward movement off the runway, ATC is authorized to utilize anticipated separation in conducting successive operations behind the exiting aircraft (meaning landing OR departing aircraft).
MCRD just off the right side of the airport. Going through boot camp in 1969 the noise of the jets overhead would drown out the marching commands of the Drill Instructors and make us miss a command. The DI's campaign hat would fly out in front of the platoon like a frisbee. We knew it would be squat trusts forever or some push-ups on knuckles and toes on the asphalt. Ah, good times. 😂
Landed here 100 times from the cheap seats. Pretty sweet to see it from this angle. It's absolutely gorgeous, which I'm sure you guys don't get to appreciate cause it looks like there a bit of a needle to thread 😅
The first time I was pic in a citation 2 into San, I asked the mentor pilot in the right seat”any secrets to this approach?” He said “Just don’t bounce off of the parking garage”
That lake is Sweetwater Springs Reservoir, and I live very close to it. The San Diego Airport is one of the busiest single runway airports in the world.
I used to love flying back to SD for Christmas breaks from school, and especially when the landings were after sunset. The downtown buildings all lit up, and it seemed like we were flying right through them.
I am a Bass Guide here in San Diego, and can tell you we have some amazing Bass fishing opportunities at all times of the year!! No Quarter Bass Guide, if anyone is interested!
Hi there, great video. A little concerning your PIC didn't know he was off the runway; didn't hold short of B4 (holding short of a taxiway doesn't mean turn onto B4 and then pull up to the runway hold-short lines); didn't remember taxi instructions after crossing.
flew as a passenger into San Diego a few years ago, then just a few days ago flew this approach in a 737 sim. wound up having to go around as i was too high rip. still can't get over having to stomp on the brakes with the runway there, such a very foreign feeling.
@@matthewrammig To be specific, he was cleared for the visual from what was probably the RNAV to 27. I used to fly into SAN a lot in my 26 pilot years and it was always using the VOR/DME backcourse to 27. The two are virtually identical. So, you're absolutely correct: there is no glideslope; however, there is a set of systematic step-downs all the way to REEBO (1800') using either DME equipment or the GPS readouts. Digging a little further, the descent angle from REEBO to SAN is 3.18 degrees, which is, in fact, a steeper descent angle (not correct to call it a glide slope since it is not attached to an ILS) than the standard ILS descent angle of 3 degrees. Boy, do I miss flying.
@@davidmalone9022 yeah, what I think what he meant was “glide path”. Anyway, it’s 3.5° now, and at or above 2000’ at REEBO on the RNAV for 27. So definitely steeper than standard. As you and I know, these step down altitudes are made to keep you alive. I doubt if a flight simulator pilot adheres to/cares about them. lol
New construction is part of T1A which is scheduled to open in 2025, at which point old terminal will be demolished and a new one built to add onto the new Terminal. That will be T1B. T1A is roughly 2/3 of the total length and T1B is the remainder. T1A must be 100% before next phase can begin.
Feels like you guys aren't quite on the same page. The energy seems off in several videos 😬 kind of hard to watch, but I do love the quality of your videos. Hope you'll be able to find a better partner in due time (if you think it's necessary) 🙏🏿
First job after flight instructor, I flew a Piper Cherokee Six, then a Navajo Chieftan LAX to SAN Lindburgh five days a week for about 3 years. I didn't see it on this video but I remember the VASI lights would pulsate on and off. I asked why (finally) and was told it indicated a non-standard glide slope. Yep, it was a little steeper than normal. LOL
In 1969, I had a lady friend who house sat one of the old Victorian houses on the last ridge above the field and directly under the final approach path. It was a 4 floor wooden house, quite large. The jet traffic was so close overhead that you could see the rivets from the widow’s walk tower of the house. Wake turbulence from heavies would shake the house. The house was eventually moved in order to save it.
If you ever get a chance, watch Richard Gere in "Mr Jones" He plays a Bipolar piano player who tries to touch airplanes while standing on top of a roof of an old victorian home in Banker's Hill, San Diego
What was that controller talking about in the begging about not talking about something important lol. and the swerving all over the place on localizer call. LMAO
I grew up in San Diego with a view of the airport. One 4th of July someone was on that parking structure in front of the runway lighting off sky rockets.
I see that a lot of comments are criticizing the captain for erroneously saying “I am off the runway”, which is fair, but I would like to give some feedback to the first officer as well: 1. Give the tower controller just a little bit more time to issue you instructions to vacate the runway (your timing was fine, but a couple extra seconds would have been better and would have prevented #2). 2. When you realized that you stepped on the controller and only heard “…ground” you should have said “say again”. I think this is where the tension in the flight deck started to escalate. Because it seemed to me that the captain also doesn’t have an idea of what instructions the tower controller issued, and you seemed comfortable with assuming they said “alright turn left on B and contact ground”. I don’t think this instruction was issued to you as much as assumed by you. I think the captain wasn’t comfortable with this assumed clearance. He even seemed to vacate rather slowly in hopes of giving you time to contact the ground controller as you vacate - which you didn’t do. The captain replied to your assumed clearance with: “he said turn left on B?” To which you wised off with “I mean, there is no other way” (which isn’t how things work as I’m sure you know) to which the captain quickly cut your sermon off with “no just talk to ground” to get an actual proper clearance. 3. Work on your delivery. You have the delivery of an FO who is trying to run the show. This can cause frustration and a breakdown of CRM. See the “Conflict in the cockpit” by ASI. Your demeanor is not that bad by any stretch but it is a slippery slope. 4. And the cherry on top is that in all this is that you were issued “taxi eastbound on B and hold short of B4”. You guys didn’t hold short of B4. You did more of “taxi eastbound on B, B4, hold short of 27”. I suppose it’s more on the captain but you allowed that too. Just my two cents.
First of all I appreciate the detailed comment, and I love getting feedback. I'll address your points (which have a lot of truth to them) just to give you my perspective. Little bit of background - I'm former airforce - spent 3 years in flight academy as a fighter pilot cadet, and 5 years as a center controller, so not your typical Cessna time only FO, that gives me an advantage and definitely I'm the type who will challenge his captain for the decisions he takes (as long as it isn't safety I won't argue with him more than once) 1. Tower usually doesn't give taxi instructions other than get off the runway at X taxiway (and so is the case in SAN), that's why It doesn't really matter if you wait until you are off the runway or if you are approaching the vacation point. 2. Same as #1, in SAN specifically like I said in the video, there is no other way other than to turn left on B, and if you vacate the runway and don't turn left on B you will still block the taxiway so might as well turn left.... 3. I'm aware, as I said I'm working on it and aware, thanks for noting it 4. I thought the same thing, and the next time I came to SAN it was the exact same thing with a different taxiway, my guess is it something with that tower and the way they phrase it is not aligned with the rest of controllers across the country, but we will have to talk to one of the controllers there to really figure this out.
Thanks for the reply. Like your name of “fort-love” airport. I could only afford to get my private pilot license, but I do remember my ground school instructor who flew for a private corporation saying that flying can sometimes be hours of boredom followed by moments of shear terror. Stay safe.
It is one thing to grease a landing with a 737-800 Max at Sky Harbor in Phoenix, but much harder to do at Lindberg. Yet, some of the Southwest pilots can do it. Landing a 747 with that ill placed parking garage must be very difficult.
As a native San Diegan, I have made this approach tons of times, but only seeing it from the passenger's perspective. This was AWESOME!!!
Aside from IRL pilots, there are a lot of people who enjoy playing flight simulation apps like MSFS, X-Plane, and Infinite Flight. I think that generates a lot of interest, and if there's a demand the videos will be made.
I used to fish out of MCRD Marina, and would spend the night before next to the fence at the end of the runway; most flights ended around 10-11 PM. Marine would wake us at the appropriate time, during their patrols.
Lindbergh field is my home airport too, I love this approach
I flew the Boeing 757 into San Diego dozens of times before my retirement from United Airlines in 2015 and rate it and LaGuardia as the 2 toughest airports to land at during my career. If memory serves, Runway 27 had a threshold displaced 2,600 feet. While the runway was 9,401 feet long, with the 2,600 foot displaced threshold, we only really had 6,800 feet for landing, 200 feet shorter than at LGA. We hardly noticed the hill, but that damned parking garage always got our attention! You can see the parking garage at the 7:47 mark in the video. Thanks for the memories!
was it urban legend or truth that the Parking Garage encouraged pilots to park in their garage on top deck? Story we in San Diego have heard since it was built. BTW the controversy about that garage never led to its removal unlike the office tower near Montgomery Field which had its top 2 stores lopped off when it was revealed a crooked San Diego Mayor allowed the developer to build taller than he should have been allowed.
Dear lord….you consider that one of your most challenging approaches?!?! And you were an airline pilot for a major? That’s horrifying.
@@ddhsd i remember that bloody office building being built - i told my dad that it looked awfully tall to be that close to the end of the runway. Then we both laughed when the top two floors were 'unbuilt' - what a waste of money!
@@altemp100 it's pretty scary when you're driving on the 5 past the end of 27 and the parking garage and can pretty much count the rivets on the underbelly of a big jet . . . and notice that the jet is *below* the level of the top floor of the garage as it passes by! [we were so PISSED when that garage went up!]
I grew up in Hong Kong and lived in one of those 4 story buildings less than 1/2 mile to Kai Tak Airport. Those 747 used to head directly west onto the mountain behind us, then made a 360 turn to east at the sight of the "checkerboard". Leveled from 45 degree tilt, then passed less than 40 feet over our roof. Then crabbing onto the runway. I had no idea what the glide slope looked like. They even did that in strong wind and rain. They took off the same way. Those were the best pilots in the world.
I loved to see 747 sitting on our roof, Years later, my dream came true, I became a Manufacturing Engineer working on the 747 line in Boeing Everett, WA. Then 777, 787.
I've flown into San Diego as a passenger many times, great to get the pilot's view for a change!
Oh my gosh, I am 72 yrs of age and seeing this landing in San Diego is almost my dream come true……number one dream is to be sitting in the copilots seat. Thank you. Ken M. Loveland, CO.
@@kenmoersen128 Glad you liked it 🙏
@kenmoersen128 are you near fort-love airport? I've flown out of there a few times.
My parents lived in SD during the 90's. This was awesome to see.
So cool to see the traffic from a pilot's point of view with an airport with just one runway.
That approach never gets old. Thanks for sharing.
My grandmother used to take me to Boom Trenchards, a restaurant just to the right of EOR. There were speakers at each table to listen to ATC. Somedays we would just park there and watch the planes land.
This was back in '75-'76 time frame.
Grandma passed last November.
Thank you for the video. Brings back alot of happy memories.
@@h.h.6171 My pleasure! thanks for watching
As kids in the mid-70s, we loved Booms. Our parents would take us there once a year as a treat. Their kaiser roll bun cheddar cheeseburgers were still the best I have ever had! (of course, it was ironic that a restaurant named after the Father of the Royal Air Force (Then the Royal Flying Corps) would feature a "kaiser" roll! It was fun to listen to the ATC chatter on the headsets.
@@RighteousReverendDynamite I loved Boom's as well - it started my lifelong interest in flight. And thank you for the kind comment about the food - my dad had oversight of that restaurant and others in the San Diego area in the 70s, and he created that burger. We tried out many test iterations at home and I still remember how good it was. 😊
I lived in sd and there used to be a mexican restaurant called el camino that sat right in the path of runway. Fun times
Thanks for the video. Makes me homesick. Moved away from San Diego County in 1997. Miss it. Miss landing at Lindbergh
Glad you enjoyed it
Yes, LINDEBERGH tower, not San Diego. I got reminded of this on vatsim the other day - lol. These are incredible videos, though. I'm just jealous, and that's the reason for the snarky comment. Thanks for letting us sim pilots into the real world.
Lived in Diego for years and never stop being amazed how beautiful it was landing in SD :) amazing 😻 city
Much respect - I don't understand how these guys can understand each other when they're talking over each other pretty much non-stop. That stuff drives me nuts.
Because there isn't anything to figure out. They're just confirming already set protocol and expectations.
I didn't hear anybody talking over anyone, that was pretty relaxed for socal TBH.
@@Joe-bm4wx That might explain why I could never be a pilot, though the thought had crossed my mind at one time. I also have hearing loss, which might also explain things.
@@Eupher72120Definitely agree. Our brains have to do so much more calculations when we miss a lot of the full spectrum of speech and sometimes it’s just too much. However, when it’s a situation repeated many times that’s much like the difference between learning a language and growing up with it, to me anyway.
My hometown! I’ve flown in and out many times. The views are amazing, but the drop in his hard for the pilots. I thank them every time for getting us in safely. Only one major accident ever in 1979 and it wasn’t because of the airport. It was a pilot error. A midair collision with a Cessna. Massive disaster. As dangerous as it is, I always feel safe flying in.
We flew in to San Diego once. When walking to pick up our rental car it was a “holy 💩” moment. These pilots thread the needle to land.
@@annmariecummings2910 thread what needle? San Diego is one of the easiest airports to land at
It's a little scary when the captain doesn't know that he isn't clear of the runway until he is past the bars
He must have been a Steam Edition player.
Yeah, I heard that, too. Maybe the right seat is training the left seat? Is that a possibility? N150MB is a Challenger which most recently appears to be owned by an "equipment leasing company" in St. Louis.
@@itgoestoeleven Still... The closest I got to a captain's seat was standing next to one before my first flight as a 10 y/o and even I was like :O
Interesting captain, first the aspen vid now doesn't know when he's clear of the runway?? Good luck brother, you are a patient man
@@quackgarage9551 issn't that why there are 2 pilots flying?? so one always there to run checks and watnot ?? :) HEHEHe lets just hope it don't have to get all KLINGON BIRD OF PREY rules on the next vid/landing.... (and how about that go around they forced too, cuz their 130 slopoke incommin speed??? hehe and they still took ''long time'' to get over the ''out of the way'' line... (hold short line)
but we only there rideing seeing an edited video... soo eh... still... seems that there were ''glitches'' in proceedores.... or ''laxadaisychecking'' ??
Taking off from San Diego is another beautiful view. When planes heading East make the left turn a couple miles out over the ocean, you can see the entire coastline if you're sitting by the window on the right side, and the left you'll also see the coastline and Coronado Bridge. A few years back, I saw large pod whales from my window seat.
@@MichaelSmith-df5pz Yes, I agree with you about those left turns further out into the ocean and then the turning sequences begin. That is the same for taking from LAX. Departing Los Angeles I have always seen a couple of super tanker ships parked in the ocean. It is always interesting to me to that!! ☺
Good for you for telling him to get off the runway. I noticed the same thing at that SNA video. Clearly this isn’t a one time thing, but a deficiency in his pilot training. I would have a serious but polite talk with him when not flying that if he does that again you’ll be talking with the chief pilot about it.
Yup, unacceptable
@@jacks3446 Totally
I’m a new pilot (110hrs) and that’s the first thing I thought. I was like dang I can fly that plane if someone said this guy can. Kind of eye opening TBH
Me be like: "GET OFF THE RUNWAY"..... I've flown into Ksan
Neat video. I can see my little community in the mountains on approach, and I'm working at the Terminal expansion project, so I can see home and work.
Fantastic views 🔥
Well done! Your videos bring back many nerve wracking landings at SAN.
9:06 this is why it’s important to brief your runway exit
Captian is an accident waiting to happen
like even when the fo had to point out that hes not off the runway cuz he didt pass the hold short line is such common stuff and crazy how you can forget that
@@AllAboutAuto31 yeah good job on the FO for being on top of everything, but its not safe that the FO has to tell the captain where to go and to clear the runway when there is traffic on final behind them. I'm very interested to know how that captain found himself in the left seat of a Challenger and who put him there.
Or just know basic runway/pavement markings and taxiway signage
And they missed a perfectly good high speed taxiway to exit and not cause further go-arounds.
Awesome video. These type of videos really help me learn, I am a low time pilot, 145 hours. Please keep posting
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Born and raised in San Diego and we lived near the flight path on Pt. Loma. Remember how we would could only talk on the phone between planes. 😂 There was a open air theater in Balboa Park called Starlight Bowl, and in the summer, there would be plays at night. All the actors would stop and wait till the planes went over head. Good times.😊 I really enjoyed seeing the approach from the cockpit perspective.
Starlight Bowl still there 👍
That was an awesome video coming into SAN!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome landing! That is such a cool approach to see the city to the south! Good video as always
As a resident in the 4th and Elm area, We can read the tire manufacturer's logo on the landing gear so every plane coming in gives me a slight "pucker response". I cant imagine a 1st time landing at Lindberg.
I like eating dinner at Mr A's off to the right side of the aircraft on final approach. You see these flights coming in and you are about level with the aircraft from the restaurant.
I flew this approach in FDX B727, MD10 and MD11 aircraft. It was a handful in the 11. San Diego Lindbergh Field is a classic example of retail and city leaders with no appreciation of flight operations.
I lived in San Diego for 35 years, right below the glide path intercept where you dropped the gear. I saw the school behind my house and the road I lived on.
@@scottstefanatz These are the kind of comments I love, thanks for sharing 🙏
If you are referring to the large church school on the flight path, it's called the "City Tree". It's a private school in downtown and I actually went to Elementrary school there :)
@@MCP2002 nope, I was referring to Rowan Elementary. Sitting in the triangle of i15 the 805 and 94
My home town! I landed at Lindbergh several times with my father. He taught many San Diegans to fly in the 60-80s. Good memories…
Thanks for taking me along for the ride.
Concerning that the PIC doesn't know what side of the lines he needs to be on...time for some additional training. No room for "close enough" on runway incursions.
THAT is taught from Day One. I was a bit shocked.
He also was told to hold short of B4 and taxis onto b4 holding short of 27....
Yeah, whatever operation this is is sketch. Wouldn't want anything to do with it. Captains that don't know this shit, have horrible CRM, can't do basic comms. This guy is obviously a good pilot but he better hope he doesn't ruin his career over flying with people like that.
This must be the reason he's blurred in the video. Also, it sounded like the UAL pilot was really peeved he had to go around. I'm not sure, but the controller seemed to imply that the challenger was flying the approach too slow on final. I could be wrong about that, though.
Your job is so fun 🤩 just got my PPL hope to be your spot 1 day. Great video !
Most citizens arent aware how challenging this approach is especially with weather or a low ceiling. The Alladin parking structure sits at 5 stories just west of I-5 and requires a steep sink rate prior to landing. It’s crazy in a heavy 777
they actually were approved for six levels, but they went with 5. According to the FAA six was within limits of clearence, but it wasn't by very much.
Great view of Mt. San Miguel, enjoyed that.
Thank you for sharing your flight a landing in San Diego International Airport. Really nice and smooth. I use to come in with my former airline on their Airbus 320s and a couple of 757s.😊 San Diego is a beautiful city to fly by closely.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TheChallengerPilot You are welcome. Fly safely. ☺
Recall there was considerable controversy when that parking structure (Laurel Street) was put up, for exactly the reasons discussed in the comments. Always fun flying home to SD, always on the left side (window), great views of the harbor, carriers at North Island, etc. And sometimes on take-off, on the right side, you can see the boots doing obstacles and physical training next door at MCRD. And on the 4th hole of the Balboa 9-hole golf course, the approaching planes come right over you, and fairly low. So glad that 40 years of (mostly thumb-fiddling, wasted) effort failed to move the airport! It's a unique feature of an amazing city.
Awesome. You pilots are amazing. Love SD
Thanks a lot!
This approach from a passenger view, especially on the left, is stunning. I've heard pp joke one can see people hanging their laundry on apartment windows passing by. Also fun is always the takeoff from Santa Ana. As pilots cut their throttle for noise abatement and level off there is always a feeling of weightlessness. Also, the approaches to 28L/28R are impressive into SFO when pax only see water until the last few seconds until touchdown. I always preferred the left side as a pax, seeing San Mateo come into view and watching hwy 101 become larger and larger...
Done this approach a few times in various Delta airplanes. That parking garage on short final made me feel that I needed to pick my feet up. At 7:49.
Nice jet! Currently in ground school right now and hoping to be up in those skies soon!
@@SWAFanPilot Nice
Love the garage in front of the runway. LOL
Was based at the former Navy training center off Rosecrans St - on foggy days you could see the wingtip vortices of arriving jets, had a wicked sound to them like someone twirling a bullwhip very fast .
Former Boeing... Love the smart 'planners' who put a multistory parking garage smack dab in way just before runway... been in and out of SAN multiple times... both on 27 and 9... last time in was on 27 during high winds, driving rain, and wind shear... completely blind... didn't know if we were going to land in parking garage or on runway... very happy it was runway...
I live here in San diego and never understood why they built that parking garage there but it does make for an exciting landing for you pilots
@@betho8736 Thanks for Comment
It seems the parking garage was put there by the Mafia, it was not subject to any normal planning regulations...
@@betho8736 : Likewise. San Diegan born and raised, and for the life of me I also could never understand who signed away on that decision? Of all places, right?
What's the gear clearance over that structure? I don't live in SD, but have been in and out visiting family in Oceanside and have had the same "who put that there" thought.
Nicest approach in the country!
Thanks for the ride, gentlemen.
Our pleasure!
living in San Diego, I've landed here over a hundred times, but never seen it from that point of view! Always wondered about accessing the east side of the runway (cargo/private) too.
Interesting video with all the firefighting going on 🚒
I live under this final approach in Bankers Hill. This was cool to see, it really is as crazy as it looks.
Thanks!
I recently got to fly the CL35 at the flightsafety at KCMH and I did this approach! So awesome to see this so shortly after
I've landed there as a passenger over 100 times over the last 30 years or so. A few times the pilot has landed long, once so long that the plane landed hard with passengers screaming or gasping at the landing and the breaking afterward. I know we landed long because we take the last exit off the runway. 747s generally don't land there, but back in the late 90s there was a British airline that was doing it pretty regularly.
So cool! My house is pretty much under the flight path to KSAN and at 2:35 in the video, I can see my neighborhood. You're coming up on Mt. San Miguel (with the antennas on it on your right) and the Sweetwater Reservoir where the helicopter was taking on water, and to the left you see a collection of commercial buildings. The commercial building closest to you is in a chevron shape with a white roof and I'm within walking distance of that building.
Regarding the new construction, SAN is building a brand new Terminal 1 (used mostly by Southwest) to replace the small, dated existing Terminal 1. I believe that once the new terminal is open, they'll demolish the old one and then expand the new Terminal 1 even further.
Thanks! cool good to know 🤙
finally an air traffic controller i understand...
I lived in San Diego for 47 years. I loved going in and out of San Diego, starting with PSA in the mid-60’s, better known to the military as Poor Sailors Airline. I was bummed when they sold out Southwest. The charm of the airline went away.
i got my student licence through a high school program (this approach flies right over my high school!) and we flew out of Gillespie. The landscape had so many memories . . . i was so nervous that one of my solos was going to be at KSAN; no, it was at Ramona, and some circuits of Brown and Gillespie. But we did overfly KSAN once - whooooo!
i got that student licence just before graduating, then discovered just how expensive it was. i wasn't able to continue after that, and i suspect i'd have to start all over now. A few years ago i did finally get to go up in a sailplane - OMG that was marvellous. (Stalls were some of my favourite practise - cut the engine and just let it float . . . i did give the instructor heart failure once when i was too blissed out on the sensation to realise just how close we were getting to Mt Miguel, but he just cleared his throat and i throttled back up. Getting a C172 to stall by myself was hard.) i did love it whilst i was doing it!
Lol, "KSAN"! I guess vet pilots can relive their 'Nam days coming into there! 😉😄
@@kc5402 took me a bit to get it . . . 8D
Flew into SAN many times back in the late 80s working for Continental. Had to deplane on stairs. One time it was particularly cloudy/foggy. When I was deplaning, the Captain was standing outside the cockpit and said thanks or whatever. I jokingly said, well, we missed the parking garage. He just laughed a little because he knew exactly what I was talking about, and said, "yeah, we almost diverted to LAX." I was curious as to whether it was still there and sure enough.
It has become an iconic parking lot 😅
That parking garage right just before landing made it that much more difficult. I remember that garage being built in the 80s, and at the time many wondered how it even got approval to be built so close to the runway, even made the local news concerning this.
My first time into SAN was 1974 while building time for my commercial. I was dual, max gross x-country from Tucson with two pax in a Mooney 201 (M20J). I was getting my 10 hours dual in the Mooney for the insurance and my instructor said. "Let's go to San Diego for lunch." I volunteered two friends to come along as baggage for the max gross component and off we went. This aircraft had manual gear and manual pump flaps. The weather was perfect until we got to the San Diego area. The fog was moving in, and it was Special VFR when we checked in with approach control. This was my first Special VFR arrival and, before I could request it, they sequenced us into the pattern. The little Mooney was FAST! They had me enter a Right Downwind on the North side of the airport about mid-field. There are no speed brakes on a Mooney! I could barely see the airport as I turned downwind and tried to slow down. When I got to maximum gear speed I dropped the gear, still trying to slow down. The tower called my base, and I was still fast and high as I pumped down the flaps while turning base. I had to slip to lose altitude as I turned final. I handled all of that and as I relaxed as we settled on the runway, tower said, "77U, expedite!" We were barely off the runway and I looked over my left shoulder and saw a PSA DC-9 had just landed. Leaving SAN was easy!
On my way to boot camp in 1966 on the day the new terminal opened we had a hard landing in a Boeing 707.
I arrived at MCRD 15 June '66. See my comment.
Welcome to MY CITY!! SUNNY DIEGO!!!😎😎
I flew into KSAN many times several years ago as a captain on a Boeing 737, mostly the -300 which had analog displays with no moving map or GPS. All they had then was a localizer approach. There were no GPS approaches that we could use. If you had to shoot that approach to minimums it sometimes resulted in a long landing since the MDA was kind of high. I remember thinking about how close to the landing gear seemed to be to the parking garage that you fly over on short final to RWY 27. Nice video.
@@whtfsh765 Thanks for sharing, glad you enjoyed the video
i rode the san diego drop once. the take off is also amazing.
Well done Gentlemen. Flew right over my house. "Just not sayin' where lol" Great vid.
Arizona to touchdown at SAN: 50 minutes.
Runway to terminal: 50 minutes.
BEAUTIFUL.
"We are clear of the runway" 😂 Were clearly not
How does a challenger pilot not know to taxi beyond the hold short bars before clear🙇🏻♂️ If he called clear and ATC sequenced another takeoff, it would be a runway incursions….good on the co-pilot 😳
Yeah that was embarrassing...
I’ve flown with 25000 hour airline guys who stop at the wrong side of the hold short line. It’s flabbergasting.
Not true. As long as the Local Controller has not issued a restriction to an exiting aircraft entering an adjacent taxiway while said aircraft is continuing forward movement off the runway, ATC is authorized to utilize anticipated separation in conducting successive operations behind the exiting aircraft (meaning landing OR departing aircraft).
@@GooglePlusPages bro you have to be clear of the runway
back in the late 90's my friend lives near by in some apartments budling we would go to the roof top and planes would by over so close ti was awesome
MCRD just off the right side of the airport. Going through boot camp in 1969 the noise of the jets overhead would drown out the marching commands of the Drill Instructors and make us miss a command. The DI's campaign hat would fly out in front of the platoon like a frisbee. We knew it would be squat trusts forever or some push-ups on knuckles and toes on the asphalt. Ah, good times. 😂
Landed here 100 times from the cheap seats. Pretty sweet to see it from this angle.
It's absolutely gorgeous, which I'm sure you guys don't get to appreciate cause it looks like there a bit of a needle to thread 😅
The first time I was pic in a citation 2 into San, I asked the mentor pilot in the right seat”any secrets to this approach?” He said “Just don’t bounce off of the parking garage”
it's unbelievable they were allowed to build that parking garage there. It might take 50-100 years, but I bet some pilot is eventually going to hit it
I will never understand whose brilliant idea it was to build a parking garage at the front of that runway. Smh.
haha 👍
Narrator: “He was not clear of the runway.”
That lake is Sweetwater Springs Reservoir, and I live very close to it. The San Diego Airport is one of the busiest single runway airports in the world.
Left seat is all business. I really like that. =)
Great video thanks!
The new terminal 1 replaces the outdated one. Professional pilots, I just like to be a passenger.
I used to love flying back to SD for Christmas breaks from school, and especially when the landings were after sunset. The downtown buildings all lit up, and it seemed like we were flying right through them.
San Diego has some massive size reservoirs you can see just before the approach.
There's a lot of great fishing at the reservoirs as well.
I am a Bass Guide here in San Diego, and can tell you we have some amazing Bass fishing opportunities at all times of the year!! No Quarter Bass Guide, if anyone is interested!
@@craigtaylorfishing Lake Wholford and Henshaw were my favorite lakes to fish when I lived in San Diego.
Yep, most lakes are reservoirs here, making it hard to party LOL
Hi there, great video. A little concerning your PIC didn't know he was off the runway; didn't hold short of B4 (holding short of a taxiway doesn't mean turn onto B4 and then pull up to the runway hold-short lines); didn't remember taxi instructions after crossing.
I hear these planes all day and night, no rules here
love the vids bro 💪
flew as a passenger into San Diego a few years ago, then just a few days ago flew this approach in a 737 sim. wound up having to go around as i was too high rip. still can't get over having to stomp on the brakes with the runway there, such a very foreign feeling.
One of my favorite airports to play at in Flight Sim. That was one steep glide slope.
It’s a visual approach there is no GS
@@matthewrammig To be specific, he was cleared for the visual from what was probably the RNAV to 27. I used to fly into SAN a lot in my 26 pilot years and it was always using the VOR/DME backcourse to 27. The two are virtually identical. So, you're absolutely correct: there is no glideslope; however, there is a set of systematic step-downs all the way to REEBO (1800') using either DME equipment or the GPS readouts.
Digging a little further, the descent angle from REEBO to SAN is 3.18 degrees, which is, in fact, a steeper descent angle (not correct to call it a glide slope since it is not attached to an ILS) than the standard ILS descent angle of 3 degrees.
Boy, do I miss flying.
@@davidmalone9022 yeah, what I think what he meant was “glide path”. Anyway, it’s 3.5° now, and at or above 2000’ at REEBO on the RNAV for 27. So definitely steeper than standard. As you and I know, these step down altitudes are made to keep you alive. I doubt if a flight simulator pilot adheres to/cares about them. lol
@@davidmalone9022 oh, by the way, I hope you get to keep flying something!
I remember eating at Mr. A's restaurant which was above the glide path of the approach to SAN.
New construction is part of T1A which is scheduled to open in 2025, at which point old terminal will be demolished and a new one built to add onto the new Terminal. That will be T1B. T1A is roughly 2/3 of the total length and T1B is the remainder. T1A must be 100% before next phase can begin.
yes! the new building is an expansion of terminal one
Amazing
Feels like you guys aren't quite on the same page. The energy seems off in several videos 😬 kind of hard to watch, but I do love the quality of your videos. Hope you'll be able to find a better partner in due time (if you think it's necessary) 🙏🏿
First job after flight instructor, I flew a Piper Cherokee Six, then a Navajo Chieftan LAX to SAN Lindburgh five days a week for about 3 years. I didn't see it on this video but I remember the VASI lights would pulsate on and off. I asked why (finally) and was told it indicated a non-standard glide slope. Yep, it was a little steeper than normal. LOL
In 1969, I had a lady friend who house sat one of the old Victorian houses on the last ridge above the field and directly under the final approach path. It was a 4 floor wooden house, quite large. The jet traffic was so close overhead that you could see the rivets from the widow’s walk tower of the house. Wake turbulence from heavies would shake the house. The house was eventually moved in order to save it.
If you ever get a chance, watch Richard Gere in "Mr Jones" He plays a Bipolar piano player who tries to touch airplanes while standing on top of a roof of an old victorian home in Banker's Hill, San Diego
I’m reading this from an old Victorian house on golden hill right on the ridge.
What was that controller talking about in the begging about not talking about something important lol. and the swerving all over the place on localizer call. LMAO
I love that he has an iPad with Apple Pencil hahaha
Well we use it to write down stuff, better than pen and paper in my opnion
Hugh Downs did a special story on the perils of the Final approach
Thanks for posting this incredible approach! What type of aircraft is this? I'm guessing a B787?
@@greggmadsen4622 Challenger 300
@@TheChallengerPilot thank you!
Looks like they use Map Quest. Hats off to pilots, talk about multi tasking.
I grew up in San Diego with a view of the airport. One 4th of July someone was on that parking structure in front of the runway lighting off sky rockets.
Fun! 😂
I see that a lot of comments are criticizing the captain for erroneously saying “I am off the runway”, which is fair, but I would like to give some feedback to the first officer as well:
1. Give the tower controller just a little bit more time to issue you instructions to vacate the runway (your timing was fine, but a couple extra seconds would have been better and would have prevented #2).
2. When you realized that you stepped on the controller and only heard “…ground” you should have said “say again”. I think this is where the tension in the flight deck started to escalate. Because it seemed to me that the captain also doesn’t have an idea of what instructions the tower controller issued, and you seemed comfortable with assuming they said “alright turn left on B and contact ground”. I don’t think this instruction was issued to you as much as assumed by you. I think the captain wasn’t comfortable with this assumed clearance. He even seemed to vacate rather slowly in hopes of giving you time to contact the ground controller as you vacate - which you didn’t do. The captain replied to your assumed clearance with: “he said turn left on B?” To which you wised off with “I mean, there is no other way” (which isn’t how things work as I’m sure you know) to which the captain quickly cut your sermon off with “no just talk to ground” to get an actual proper clearance.
3. Work on your delivery. You have the delivery of an FO who is trying to run the show. This can cause frustration and a breakdown of CRM. See the “Conflict in the cockpit” by ASI. Your demeanor is not that bad by any stretch but it is a slippery slope.
4. And the cherry on top is that in all this is that you were issued “taxi eastbound on B and hold short of B4”. You guys didn’t hold short of B4. You did more of “taxi eastbound on B, B4, hold short of 27”. I suppose it’s more on the captain but you allowed that too.
Just my two cents.
First of all I appreciate the detailed comment, and I love getting feedback.
I'll address your points (which have a lot of truth to them) just to give you my perspective.
Little bit of background - I'm former airforce - spent 3 years in flight academy as a fighter pilot cadet, and 5 years as a center controller, so not your typical Cessna time only FO, that gives me an advantage and definitely I'm the type who will challenge his captain for the decisions he takes (as long as it isn't safety I won't argue with him more than once)
1. Tower usually doesn't give taxi instructions other than get off the runway at X taxiway (and so is the case in SAN), that's why It doesn't really matter if you wait until you are off the runway or if you are approaching the vacation point.
2. Same as #1, in SAN specifically like I said in the video, there is no other way other than to turn left on B, and if you vacate the runway and don't turn left on B you will still block the taxiway so might as well turn left....
3. I'm aware, as I said I'm working on it and aware, thanks for noting it
4. I thought the same thing, and the next time I came to SAN it was the exact same thing with a different taxiway, my guess is it something with that tower and the way they phrase it is not aligned with the rest of controllers across the country, but we will have to talk to one of the controllers there to really figure this out.
@@TheChallengerPilotthank you for taking the feedback in good spirit. I’m wishing you the best! Nice channel.
that was cool
Thanks for the reply. Like your name of “fort-love” airport. I could only afford to get my private pilot license, but I do remember my ground school instructor who flew for a private corporation saying that flying can sometimes be hours of boredom followed by moments of shear terror. Stay safe.
It is one thing to grease a landing with a 737-800 Max at Sky Harbor in Phoenix, but much harder to do at Lindberg. Yet, some of the Southwest pilots can do it. Landing a 747 with that ill placed parking garage must be very difficult.
Wasn't the direction to hold short of B4, not hold short of 27 on B4?
Landing in San Diego when it’s super foggy is so nerve racking 😅