15 years from now, when you're standing next to Mr. Petty, he's going to turn to you and say, "It's a good thing you didn't diss me in that video," and you're gonna know exactly what he is talking about.
😂😂 yeah bro Blackmagic gone clear lol. I was talking to a guy the other day who regrets buying Burano and he's selling it. I think it's great though but I hear you
Yes, I am still recovering from having my mind blown by Blackmagic today. It was a Grand Slam to say the least. If I was starting over in my video creation, the Pyxis is it. However, you brought new life with the BMMCC extension pack and the upcoming Eclipse. This fits my current video making perfect.and will get heavy use. The Pyxis filed what I did not like about the 6K pocket and gave us a platform. Isn't it all about having a good platform to move forward? That is why the Eclipse will have a home with me.
Seeing Irix lenses taking the spotlight on the newest Black Magic camera fills me with genuine pride! Your trust in Irix's capabilities and your appreciation of their unique qualities mean the world to us!
Haha! This video had me smiling. Love your attitude. I’m super excited for the Pyxis too. Never stop innovating though, you’ve done things no one else is doing. Christopher Nolan is out here still innovating with film negatives. We still love that Fairchild sensor. Pyxis will have its drawbacks I’m sure. All good, all great fun tools to use for our passions.
Great comment bro. It definitely has it's downsides but we can work with this. Definitely won't stop and I've already got some ideas for custom plates 😁 Thank you brother
@@Altcine Looking forward to the custom plates! Also love that you’re still going forward with the Micro mods. I absolutely love that camera. I have a Komodo as well with the Hasselblad viewfinder mod for the top screen. Love it too but man it’s a pain to operate. The global shutter and that image is just special to me, like the BM Micro. Might have to make some decisions soon though!
@@glenis83 yeah definitely won't stop with the micros and the Eclipse is close to finish. That hassleblad viewfinder mod is awesome man, I saw that a couple years back and love it. We all got decisions to make now 😅 my fx3 is already collecting dust and with the eclipse and pyxis I doubt I'll ever use it.
Ahhh bro, you guys were ahead of the market. This camera is it in so many ways. Two things id change is hdmi too and the screen on top instead of the side. But looks like a tank bro and so riggable. See? Never lose faith lol😂
Your excitement is infectious 😂💫 I just bought the FF 6K a few weeks ago to add to my 4K and PL converted 6K Pro. Blackmagic did an incredible job with their release today- and yeah I was super bored with the broadcast stuff too. Was watching another live while was running till I saw the cameras come on then got fully focussed 😂🙌🏿
Thanks man, it's been a long time that I've been this excited about a camera. I know it's not exactly groundbreaking but it's something a lot of us wanted...even tradesmen get excited about a good screwdriver lol. So you're a full-on BM guy huh, I'm not gonna lie though, image is fantastic but the bodies just weren't working well for me in the work I was doing. This body will be great to use and looking forward to networking this in our studio which is getting built soon. Thanks for the comment man, so exciting.
@@Altcine yeah I toyed with the idea of switching but BM gives you so much more for your money and the OS is leagues above others in terms of simplicity. And you are right, the body is an upgrade in terms of shape and materials and of course I/O. 🤍💫 super exciting ! Look forward to more from you 👍🏿💫
@@ODHunte gotcha. I had to make the switch last year for type of work I was doing and although I'm taking a long break, I still kept the FX3 just in case any good jobs come up. A lot of people keep saying it's just a 6kff and no real upgrade but for us that don't own a BM6k it is a big upgrade. Thank you bro
I'm so happy to see and hear you so excited !!!! Somehow, I feel like this new camera is a kind of magical sign/response and/or an answer to all the work and efforts you and your team put into the 'eclipse' (and everything else you do). Now, my next question is, when are you gonna rehouse the PYNIS into the ECLIPSE box ;) ? Kidding. Anyway, i'm as much excited for you, as you are waiting to get that PYXIS deliverd to your house.
Hey Hugo, Thank you bro, I'm glad we're all excited and happy by this. For a lot of us the passion is deeper than just making money from clients and cinematography is a great hobby and used to create good memories. I'm going to turn this Pyxis into a dSLR 😅
I hope the front mounts are interchangeable, annoying if the mounts are fixed. Is it better to get the L-mount and use EF and PL mount adaptors like the 6KFF?
Blackmagic's NAB '24 Update yesterday was insane. 🔥 I personally was hoping for a bmpcc 4K pro (MFT) or bmcc 4K FF. That resolution is plenty, and you get faster sensor readout speeds or framerates. After yesterday I doubt they will ever release anything below 6K honestly...
I agree 100%. I would prefer a 4k version too and mft would have been great for me personally. I think you're right though and we may not see any more 4k outside of the studio cams.
oh man, I thought about you guys when they dropped this, you should get the L mount because you can add nd with mount adapter and you have the same form factor, I already have the pl to l and ef to l with vari nd already. I'm pretty sure I got the first preorder at b&h in the states. Glad to see you have a sense of humor about all of this, keep dreaming and making
Hey Peter, Yeah a few people said get L mount and looking into it, it makes sense. However, I've been researching the C6k and some things are a bit concerning. The iso performance, crop modes, framerates, gyro stab not as good as P4k/p6k. I'm thinking I might hold off for a bit and see if BM updates anything.
The only thing can maybe could save zcam is an aggressively priced 15 stop dynamic range, global MFT sensor camera they were going on about a while back.
While the price is the main draw, what its missing is glaring. Those hyping it up without experiencing it on a paid shoot may find themselves regrettably coming back down to Earth. I believe DM will take the tempeture of this offering and use the feedback to create the Pyxes Pro that should have build in ND, 15 stop range, 4K at 60 or even 120fps and 14 and maybe even 16 bit internal recording. With those upgrades, those hyping up the price of the Pyxis will also hype up a $4K to $5K price.
Blackmagic had a huuuuuge spring release. I’m hungover from yesterday’s announcement. I absolutely love my BMPCC 6k at the Resolver workflow. Definitely ordering the Pyxis and the Micro color panel.
@@Altcine yes brother I did the same thing I had no idea and I prayed and said I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't know either I'm so conscious of it now though it means everything to me you do a great job I listen to all the different camera gear coming out and different things that are on the TH-cam so keep up the good work thanks
I would probably get the L mount and then add on a POGO MOFAGE PL adapter and then you'll basically have internal NDs and more. So just add on about another $400. Going to be interesting to see how things shake out in terms of their typical IR pollution and moire pattern issues. Love BM, but that's always something to contemplate.
@vinaydahya5353 It is a super solid adapter system, especially now that they have released the new dual filters that have ND and IR Cut, etc. Also introduced a CPL filter
I was curious what the DIY community would think about this camera. Super positive attitude to have your thunder stolen by Blackmagic! And you’re right about vertical video. I never even thought about that.
Credit where it's due man. I personally like what they've done and very interested in the networking side of things. The vertical video was a big deal for us at the time of designing the B6K. I was shooting so many client reels that I wished I had a screen on the side lol. I've got some great ideas for accessories and custom plates so can't wait to make some stuff.
@@Altcine and that’s because I believe those sensors were built for arri and not used. Rumor has it another wave was supposed to be used in the pocket 4k but the tsunami happened and they had to get the Sony sensors
I think blackmagic as a company will continue to expand...they LISTEN to your client base even though it may have taken a while. Hopefully you weren't too much in the red designing the box camera on your own. We still appreciate the work you've put in. I think blackmagic are aware of you and the work you've done. Thank you
Thank you bro, that’s very kind of you and yes…better late than never. We’re still releasing the eclipse as it will be a collectors item but the 4k models can go to camera heaven lol
Love your energy FYI: Canon and Sony have patents for internal ND systems for mirrorless bodies… also both companies have sensor tech that could well negate the need for ND filters altogether. It’s almost certain that at least one of these technologies is soon to be released in a mirrorless body. I’ll wait until that happens. My current cameras all outshine this Blackmagic box camera… and the new 12k is too large for my shooting style.
Yeah that's true, won't be long until most cams have it. Did you see that company that made eVND glass? Apparently they're ready to scale up and sell it to camera manufacturers.
Yes that's good advice and a lot of people said that but I really want to avoid adapters if possible. I don't even use my speedbooster on the micro often.
I don't get the side monitor placement. Would prefer even a tiny one but on the top. No internal ND? Another thing, although not important to me, just curious: why won't they make the camera to WiFi itself, without the need of a phone? I think Panasonic did that. And would it even work when the phone is connected to the internet via WiFi and not 4g / 5g
I think it's ok at the side. Most cine cams like Arri and Red have no monitors. The komodo does but it's not useable for work Worse things have been done by Sony ie the fx6 and no audio inputs on body. This looks like Blackmagic wanted a small box with proper networking capabilities for cinematic live streams and broadcast. Fits perfectly for what they're doing with the connected Ursa. It's why I put the Arri 35 part at the beginning.
@@imiy look at the broadcast side of things and why they put ethernet and RTMP into this camera with a metal body. I don't think solo filmmakers are the number 1 focus although they could use this if needed.
Wait was the og fairchild sensor dual gain? I knew it was a killer sensor but i didn't think they could fit that into such a small body. Also I read blackmagic's custom sensors are still manufactured by fairchild (no idea if thats true) and still look amazing. I'm super excited for the ursa cine.
I think the only reason Fairchild stopped is because Sony bought some of their business and patents. I think they still manufacture some parts but not for consumer cams. The new BM sensors are made by Sony....just like most other brands which are all dual iso...not dual gain. Research all my claims yourself as I could be wrong but I believe the only dual gain sensors available right now are only older Blackmagics & Arri.
@@Altcine @Altcine sorry should have clarified. By custom sensors I ment the 4.6k sensor and maybe 12k sensor were manufactured by Fairchild (bought by onsemi). All their pocket and broadcast sensor are Sony. But its the og's dual gain that surprised me. I did look it up and apparently it's two 11bit signals which is super surprising. I have no idea the challenges, but uou should look into modifying the old 2.5k production camera. I believe it's a larger cut of the same sensor as the og. Absolutely love your projects!
@@nickxc ahhh gotcha. I actually don't know who does their custom sensors so it could be made by a branch of Fairchild as Sony didn't buy the whole lot.... you're teaching me something new. Yeas the dual gain on some of the old sensors is incredible. They all have a funny issue but the OG & micro definitely are the best as the moiré is easy to deal with. Definitely need to look at more models but we're really committed to building our a pro cinePi that people can make at home.... hopefully. Thank you for your support bro
Yeah for the first time I’m looking closely at the BM cameras, but for now I believe I’m going to go for the video assist at its reduced price and the new micro panel. So progressively getting into the BM ecosystem.
I like to think that it was people like yourself that finally woke Blackmagic up to finally building the camera that users actually wanted. The approach you’ve taken was still game-changing in how fast you could realise a product. The least Blackmagic should do is offer you a job!
Thank you brother, that's a nice thought and I hope it's true. It might have seemed like I hated Blackmagic but I actually love them. When I first started with camera's my first upgrade to a proper camera was the p4k and I loved BM since....just never got on with the shape. It actually feels good to talk about them positively for a change.
Pleeeease keep pushing your Micro OG project cause Im keen on a rigid box cam for a cinelifter drone to be able to shoot braw in a box form factor. The Pyxis is nice but way to heavy to get a decent flight performance. Pls do it, Im begging you on my knies, man
Its only a camera. But its the one we've all been waiting for. Really looking forward to hearing your comments when you get your hands on one. Have fun Colin.
I had my reservations with blackmagic in the 2010s to be taken seriously on their camera releases and their broadcast hardware modularity now, its so synergized where it all clicks together with their BM Camera to Cloud offering and finally a "no-limits" URSA Cine, a true cinema featured camera, especially the AC side monitor, and Kimodo rival box camera BM is coming out ahead of the game and shouldn't be slept on
Yes 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 you understand it fully! I added the Arri part at the beginning to show people what's happening in the industry but they don't see it. This smaller connected cam is perfect companion for bigger ursa's. I can see broadcasters putting this on a couple small stands or hanging discreetly whilst using the bigger ursa manned. It's just great that with a monitor it can be used for handheld too.
Would be even more usable with RF, Z or L mount (or even NO mount) which would be best as a base!! They missed a trick here. Seams like a bit of a waste/inefficient to make multiple fixed mount versions but what do I know... one of the things i love about my Komodo is the really huge range of lenses I can use on it but hmmm..
I just think making multiple mounts for one camera and for them to speak electronically might have increased the price quite a lot. We know they can do it and some people would definitely pay extra but this is more inline with how they price cams. But yes...what do WE know...it's all just speculation by us but I'm pretty sure this cam will do well.
i just dont get it though man... why tf doesnt it have internal nd? how can they put internal nd in the 6k pro and then not put it in any of their subsequent cameras in that price range?
It certainly looks good, but we really don’t know if it is. Before you get too excited… Does it have auto focus? How’s the rolling shutter? If the auto focus sucks and the rolling shutter is terrible then it doesn’t matter how pretty the boxes it only matters what kind of images we’re going to get. And nobody seems to be talking about this. And I hear the dynamic range is just OK. I don’t know… Waiting for the Sony a7s4…. Which may blow this back camera out of the water.
I got FX3 and recently sold my 2 FX6's as I don't need them for work anymore. I'm currently shooting on Blackmagic micro and started with canon Eos-M in magic lantern...I think I'll be ok with this 😅
A lot of us are fine without auto focus…the majority of people doing narrative work. Dynamic range is not much of an issue when lighting is setup properly. Just want people to realize that not every camera is for them. Respect 🫡
All these people saying RIP to Arri clearly don't know the industry or use Arri cameras. there is a reason people use them and will continue to use them. Sony will probably wince with the Burano but just chalk it up to a lesson I really see that more as a concept they let go to market and is actually pushing the boundries and is still a great camera. Sony just have the money to push an industry that way. Zcam and Kinefinity are surely going to be more in danger though Zcam seem more interested in lighting now and not so much about their cameras anyhow.
@@Altcine You get it man. It's a great time to be alive to see such innovation in the industry and to have such choice from am Eos M to an Arri Alexa to a Fuji GFX just insane. When I started I was asking for 24p in standard Def and to record to a SD card and not to mini DV
Sorry, bro but i dont think Sony shooters will leave Sony for this camera. I may buy one myself , but it will not be my A cam nor will it replace my Sony cameras.
@@Altcine can you think of any reason as to why they do not have a HDMI out. Can one use the USB C as a HDMI out or is the idea to use a phone as monitor using the USB C instead of the EVF?
@@daylight5500 I think there's a couple reasons. I think this isn't aimed at your casual low budget shooter... it's somewhere in the middle and I genuinely think this is meant to support the new Ursa's for cinematic broadcasts which I believe is going to be a big part of media creation in the future. We can't look at this cam like an everyday A cam, although it can be used as one it's definitely in the realms of a supporting camera like the komodo's original use case. Finally if you give this camera everything then it will cannibalise the pocket range and that would be a bad business move. A lot of people will hate this cam but I see the future of professional, well built metal camera ready for cinema and broadcasts but at a very good price.
@@Altcine Yes, they did it again. Let's see what Sony does with an FX3 mark2. Wish Sony would have a box camera too. I have a Komodo and LOVE rigging it so easy!
Why not at least a flippy screen on the side there like a camcorder has... would be giving more flexibility and if flipped in, the screen would be protected too... ;)
I sincerely disagree. What you've done with the M-Lite says otherwise. This might have killed your ambitions with the Micro G2 box body but this might also be a sign. You guys are capable of so much more and I hope you don't lose sight of that. I do have to say the Pyxis is really interesting but they'd better add touch screen functionality to a videoassist or something
Thank you brother, I appreciate that. The decision on the G2 wasn't because of the Pyxis though...I just don't think it's worth it over doing our own CinePi and I also want to build a new more meaningful channel. The Eclipse will give everyone an idea of what we can do. I hope the VA can control pyxis, that would be great. Considering it's SDI like the G2 it could be possible.
5:50 no dude, it’s not dumb or silly, it’s good to be excited and passionate about something in life… otherwise, what’s the point of living? I love technologies, I’m a geek, so I get excited by stuff like that, even thought I’m just a video editor and not a camera operator, so I will probably never buy a Pyxis, or Ursa Cine, and yet I still want to know more about the future Ursa Cine Medium Format 17k… life is good, so enjoy it as long as it lasts!
I'm glad you said this, it's true. I had to buy cameras which made work easier but my first real "pro" camera was p4k and loved everything apart from the body. Now I'm back doing passion stuff, it feels good to be passionate about a camera again. Thank you brother
Blackmagic played us beautifully. They some how convinced many of us that just by changing the form factor to a box, and removing a really good monitor, and increasing the price, still got us praising just because box easy to rig?
I hear what you're saying but I'm seeing a different picture. This looks like a high end camera for cinematic broadcasts that can still be used by the average cinematographer.
@@Altcine yea the jelly effect was bad, my concern was my cam had a good chance of turning into a toaster mid shoot and the memory always fluctuated, give it a year and this cam will flood eBay with fried out SDI 😂
Guys, Blackmagic intentionally didn't release the another BLACKMAGIC PYXIS camera with articulated screen. They are very clever as this design doesn't allow single person shooting
The nexus project did an announcement based around the pyxis. They're still gonna be releasing. They are confident their design is better than the pyxis.
Thanks for the video man, but what the F is going on with the battery option??? Full frame nice camera but no V mount option???? Stupid Blackmagic Design again, and again!!!1
Thanks man. I like bpu, they last long but not sure on Pyxis as the screen will drain it. It looks like theirs a lot of options for rigging though or maybe bpu to vmount adapter?
Bro, on the Blackmagic group it is actually ridiculous! I thought they'd be happy that BM took this step....is it perfect...no but at least they added a screen & a 3.5 jack unlike the fx6.
@@angryrabbitproductions1690 it's double the price..that's not really another option that's a whole new realm. Don't get me wrong FX6 is great and I owned 2 of them for work but it's not all bells and whistles. Sometimes the Nd wasn't strong enough so you still had to step down and some people preferred using external Nd over Sony's inbuilt. The lack of 3.5mm jack means you were forced into using the handle for even smaller jobs. If your handle broke then it'll set you back £1250 which is crazy. So whilst it's great and I'd recommend it...it did come with its own set of issues.
Absolutely bro, I was kidding about the eclipse but I see no reason to build anything else. The project has to super cool like the eclipse (limited edition and Fairchild) or it isn't worth tbh. Why buy a modified cam for 2 or 3k when you can have a new camera with good specs and warranty. I like the comment about brothers, they will look great together.
Graduated from a cinema school, ran a video production agency for 8 years. I lost my interest to video production totally. Since Blackmagic started LOG shooting and other camera companies followed that workflow, everything seems too gimmick to me. As camera technology evolves, it pushes me away and made me interested in more basic older tech. Let’s admit that, clients do not care about what picture profile you take the video. After long years of LOG, Sony came up with a non-LOG picture profile with cinematic color range. That’s signal of change for me. I now more interested in old 5D’s (mark II and III), Panasonic GH4, Sony a7s (original) etc. Even 5DMII still has a fantastic image. Yes it is lacking of tons of features compared to todays cameras but clients are only asking for simple vertical videos for their Instagram. That format or other social media content doesnt need too cinematic 4K or 8K footage. We talk about all features but in the end of the day people watch videos on their phones and I ask myself “do we really need that kind of complicated systems?” or “do all pieces we crate have to be cinematic?”. And my answer is always a “no” even I was once one of the biggest camera nerds.
There’s many types of clients and work out there…not just social media and vertical video. Some of us do full time narrative, music video or commercial work. I respect that the camera’s not for you but it’s definitely got it’s place 🤙
@@iStaySharp I wish I was living in a first world country to do what I really love. But once you live in a country with %100 yearly inflation, after several years, clients take videos with their phones and ask you to edit to minimize the budget. Lately, thanks to capcut, many of our clients stopped working with us and create their own video content. Music videos? They work only with the directors/producers who do it for FREE. Not willing to pay even a penny. Commercials? Mafia is a gatekeeper and it is impossible to get good production jobs as independent director. Youonly have small businesses with no budget left in the market for you. So yeah...
Add some NDs, AF, full size XLR, Vlock and Prores and I might buy one. Not saying it's bad, just that I'd still rather shoot on my FX6 for usability. All they've done here is stick a sensor in a box. Feels like a 'back of a fag packet' design to me. Next version might be great!
This looks like Blackmagic wanted a small box with proper networking capabilities for cinematic live streams and broadcast. Fits perfectly for what they're doing with the connected Ursa. It's why I put the Arri 35 part at the beginning.
let me make this clear I love this camera but there's a reason that I won't ever buy it and that's the fact that it doesn't have internal ND filters if it did it would be an automatic purchase even if it was only $400 more expensive and you might ask why and I'll tell you because number one it's an extra thing to carry and number two they're super annoying as a solo operator yes when you're working with a team and you have an AC it's less annoying but it still takes up valuable time
Brave man willing to be a beta tester for BM buying one of their cameras without users getting their hands on it first to make sure it actually works as intended.
People are never satisfied. You can’t always get what you want, work with what you have. This camera satisfies my thirst as long as the image that comes out of it is great, I am satisfied.
box camera body? meh. no built-in nd filters, only 13 stops of dr, monitor on the side that doesnt articulate??? ugh. id much rather have a 6k pro with a viewfinder
Man I was pressing Tom to release the images since The Creator came out and I made our first box cam update last year and last asked him in January. I really wish he agreed 😔
@@Altcine Images aside, without the interest your efforts generated, I doubt BM would have ever pulled their finger out. But for me 13 stops doesn't cut it. Hell I'd rather have a 16 stop 1080p camera than a 17K Ursa any day. I don't know what they are thinking. Give us dynamic range and frame rates and if going to lower resolutions can get us there then do that.
@@colourberry thanks man 🙏🏾 I think it's safe to say BM are going after live cinematic broadcasts and studio productions...Grant knows this area well. If that's the case we still have to look at the pipeline from capture to destination...can we make use of all the data? I think the bigger cams with better DR will pick up the bulk of pro productions and the Pyxis is a b-roll cam.
@@Altcine This is Typical Blackmagic. Take one step forward, two steps back. It's like they don't have anyone in their Engineering dept that actually shoots in the field to make something as easy as this, ergonomic.
@@SystemParanoia Now try and imagine everyone else who's using it looking at the side of the camera instead of towards the subject. Also when running a gunning, always having to bend your head over and make adjustments. It's gonna be a doozy when everyone starts using it.
@@Spinflight those situations are beyond my budget and skill level. If it were in budget, I'd have "people" to handle all that camera nonsense while I use my big brain to bring this project to life! So I can hurry up and go back home to my mega yacht in Monaco 😎
Prayers for what? No ND filters, side panel, weak rolling shutter, no HDMI, Micro xlr, slow fps, no global shutter, 13 stops dynamic range in 2024 (???). This is all a joke right?
So I'm the only one that's remarkably disappointed? I wanted a Mini URSA with a full frame for another $2000-$3000. Instead we get a camera that costs $9000 more than the ursa mini and is twice the size. It's a camera that will fit on almost no gimbal and will be a massive beast to shoot handheld. We finally get a box camera and again, no internal ND filters. I guess I'm the only one that bought a bunch of 6k pro cameras and said I'm never buying another camera without internal ND as long as I live. I'm not going back to variable ND. I'm not going back to screwing filters on. I'm not going back to ND filters that make everything green. I'm not going back to $450 filters that break because they're literally just big pieces of glass. I'm not going back to spending 2 minutes to change out a ND filter on a run n gun shoot. Man fuck these cameras.
This is why I make my own stuff. Even with fx6 which I loved and had Nd, I hated the screen was attached by cable and no mic port. The Komodo had no internal vnd and a useless screen....I think we will cope😅 Again, this is why I design and make my own stuff rather than waiting for manufacturers th-cam.com/users/shortsi4A9dB2XmAA?si=p03VL3Y6ndE4gkJl
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15 years from now, when you're standing next to Mr. Petty, he's going to turn to you and say, "It's a good thing you didn't diss me in that video," and you're gonna know exactly what he is talking about.
😂😂 yes si, I hope your prediction comes true.
RIP Z-Cam, RIP RED, RIP Kinefinity. . And Sony is looking at their Burano and FX6 with tears in theirs eyes. 😂
😂😂 yeah bro Blackmagic gone clear lol.
I was talking to a guy the other day who regrets buying Burano and he's selling it. I think it's great though but I hear you
@@Altcine Tell Tom to keep the drawings and mock-up and see if a GH5 can fit into it 😎
@@fredr. I'll tell him
Definitely RIP Burano, RIP Venice (maybe RIP Alexa35?). That URSA Cine 12K LF / 17K LF look amazing. And the price point too.
@@Altcine I'm working on two projects with Burano + FX30 footage. Both look the same to me.
Yes, I am still recovering from having my mind blown by Blackmagic today. It was a Grand Slam to say the least. If I was starting over in my video creation, the Pyxis is it. However, you brought new life with the BMMCC extension pack and the upcoming Eclipse. This fits my current video making perfect.and will get heavy use. The Pyxis filed what I did not like about the 6K pocket and gave us a platform. Isn't it all about having a good platform to move forward? That is why the Eclipse will have a home with me.
Yeah maaaan they absolutely slaughtered it today!
I took will still keep my micro's but this will add to a solid line up.
Thanks brother as always.
you wouldn't believe it-but you were the first thing I thought of when I saw the cams! LOL
😂😂 you guys know me too well lol. It's all my complaining
Seeing Irix lenses taking the spotlight on the newest Black Magic camera fills me with genuine pride! Your trust in Irix's capabilities and your appreciation of their unique qualities mean the world to us!
Yes a few people have said that and I agree. This is all very exciting and inspiring.
Haha! This video had me smiling. Love your attitude. I’m super excited for the Pyxis too. Never stop innovating though, you’ve done things no one else is doing. Christopher Nolan is out here still innovating with film negatives. We still love that Fairchild sensor. Pyxis will have its drawbacks I’m sure. All good, all great fun tools to use for our passions.
Great comment bro. It definitely has it's downsides but we can work with this.
Definitely won't stop and I've already got some ideas for custom plates 😁
Thank you brother
@@Altcine Looking forward to the custom plates! Also love that you’re still going forward with the Micro mods. I absolutely love that camera. I have a Komodo as well with the Hasselblad viewfinder mod for the top screen. Love it too but man it’s a pain to operate. The global shutter and that image is just special to me, like the BM Micro. Might have to make some decisions soon though!
@@glenis83 yeah definitely won't stop with the micros and the Eclipse is close to finish.
That hassleblad viewfinder mod is awesome man, I saw that a couple years back and love it.
We all got decisions to make now 😅 my fx3 is already collecting dust and with the eclipse and pyxis I doubt I'll ever use it.
That thing looks absolutely amazing and the price is right in line for smaller to huge productions. Absolutely love Blackmagic
Hey Kevin, yeah you're right, it'll fit in well on lots of productions. Perfect camera for some of us.
Ahhh bro, you guys were ahead of the market. This camera is it in so many ways. Two things id change is hdmi too and the screen on top instead of the side. But looks like a tank bro and so riggable. See? Never lose faith lol😂
Yes Joel, we must have faith. Will definitely have to do a lightweight self powering SDI monitor but I love it.
Legend! 🙌
Can’t wait to see your thoughts with Pyxis!
Best review found 😂 love you guys
Thanks man 😁🤌🏾
Your excitement is infectious 😂💫 I just bought the FF 6K a few weeks ago to add to my 4K and PL converted 6K Pro. Blackmagic did an incredible job with their release today- and yeah I was super bored with the broadcast stuff too. Was watching another live while was running till I saw the cameras come on then got fully focussed 😂🙌🏿
Thanks man, it's been a long time that I've been this excited about a camera. I know it's not exactly groundbreaking but it's something a lot of us wanted...even tradesmen get excited about a good screwdriver lol.
So you're a full-on BM guy huh, I'm not gonna lie though, image is fantastic but the bodies just weren't working well for me in the work I was doing. This body will be great to use and looking forward to networking this in our studio which is getting built soon.
Thanks for the comment man, so exciting.
@@Altcine yeah I toyed with the idea of switching but BM gives you so much more for your money and the OS is leagues above others in terms of simplicity. And you are right, the body is an upgrade in terms of shape and materials and of course I/O. 🤍💫 super exciting !
Look forward to more from you 👍🏿💫
@@ODHunte gotcha. I had to make the switch last year for type of work I was doing and although I'm taking a long break, I still kept the FX3 just in case any good jobs come up.
A lot of people keep saying it's just a 6kff and no real upgrade but for us that don't own a BM6k it is a big upgrade.
Thank you bro
I'm so happy to see and hear you so excited !!!!
Somehow, I feel like this new camera is a kind of magical sign/response and/or an answer to all the work and efforts you and your team put into the 'eclipse' (and everything else you do).
Now, my next question is, when are you gonna rehouse the PYNIS into the ECLIPSE box ;) ? Kidding.
Anyway, i'm as much excited for you, as you are waiting to get that PYXIS deliverd to your house.
Hey Hugo,
Thank you bro, I'm glad we're all excited and happy by this. For a lot of us the passion is deeper than just making money from clients and cinematography is a great hobby and used to create good memories.
I'm going to turn this Pyxis into a dSLR 😅
@@Altcine should i sent back the 650D, has a flip screen !!! just saying ;)
@@hugomalpeyre 😂😂
I hope the front mounts are interchangeable, annoying if the mounts are fixed. Is it better to get the L-mount and use EF and PL mount adaptors like the 6KFF?
Hmmm good point! I don't really like adapters though but could possibly get one with Nd inside 🤔
They’re not interchangeable - read the cined article. The L mount seems like a safe bet.
Blackmagic's NAB '24 Update yesterday was insane. 🔥
I personally was hoping for a bmpcc 4K pro (MFT) or bmcc 4K FF. That resolution is plenty, and you get faster sensor readout speeds or framerates.
After yesterday I doubt they will ever release anything below 6K honestly...
I agree 100%. I would prefer a 4k version too and mft would have been great for me personally.
I think you're right though and we may not see any more 4k outside of the studio cams.
Camera looks pretty good!! 👍🏽 Blackmagic 💪🏽💪🏽🙌🏾🙌🏾
oh man, I thought about you guys when they dropped this, you should get the L mount because you can add nd with mount adapter and you have the same form factor, I already have the pl to l and ef to l with vari nd already. I'm pretty sure I got the first preorder at b&h in the states. Glad to see you have a sense of humor about all of this, keep dreaming and making
Hey Peter,
Yeah a few people said get L mount and looking into it, it makes sense.
However, I've been researching the C6k and some things are a bit concerning. The iso performance, crop modes, framerates, gyro stab not as good as P4k/p6k.
I'm thinking I might hold off for a bit and see if BM updates anything.
The only thing can maybe could save zcam is an aggressively priced 15 stop dynamic range, global MFT sensor camera they were going on about a while back.
While the price is the main draw, what its missing is glaring. Those hyping it up without experiencing it on a paid shoot may find themselves regrettably coming back down to Earth. I believe DM will take the tempeture of this offering and use the feedback to create the Pyxes Pro that should have build in ND, 15 stop range, 4K at 60 or even 120fps and 14 and maybe even 16 bit internal recording. With those upgrades, those hyping up the price of the Pyxis will also hype up a $4K to $5K price.
Blackmagic had a huuuuuge spring release. I’m hungover from yesterday’s announcement. I absolutely love my BMPCC 6k at the Resolver workflow. Definitely ordering the Pyxis and the Micro color panel.
Yes maaaan! I'm still buzzing from it too. The Pyxis will go well with your 6k.
Great post! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this new beast.
Thanks man, I appreciate that.
"We are not solving world hunger" Spot on.
Yes bro, far more important things in life..
Yes I do agree like not taking the lord's name in vain
@@Dadohyeah did I do that 😩
@@Altcine yes brother I did the same thing I had no idea and I prayed and said I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't know either I'm so conscious of it now though it means everything to me you do a great job I listen to all the different camera gear coming out and different things that are on the TH-cam so keep up the good work thanks
@@Dadohyeah yeah I hear that brother. What did I say and where?
I would probably get the L mount and then add on a POGO MOFAGE PL adapter and then you'll basically have internal NDs and more. So just add on about another $400.
Going to be interesting to see how things shake out in terms of their typical IR pollution and moire pattern issues. Love BM, but that's always something to contemplate.
Yeah I thought about that too but I really don't want to use adapters but I agree though ..that would be very useful.
Hopefully it's good 🤞🏾 but it's pretty much a 6kFF which looks pretty decent apart from rolling shutter.
@vinaydahya5353 It is a super solid adapter system, especially now that they have released the new dual filters that have ND and IR Cut, etc.
Also introduced a CPL filter
I was curious what the DIY community would think about this camera. Super positive attitude to have your thunder stolen by Blackmagic!
And you’re right about vertical video. I never even thought about that.
Credit where it's due man. I personally like what they've done and very interested in the networking side of things.
The vertical video was a big deal for us at the time of designing the B6K. I was shooting so many client reels that I wished I had a screen on the side lol.
I've got some great ideas for accessories and custom plates so can't wait to make some stuff.
They finally listened well done looks like i can finally buy my first blackmagic camera
Definitely go for it
Mystifying omissions: NO internal ND’s, and only 13 stops of dynamic range.
You video popped on the recommendation page.. great video
Really 😮 that's crazy! Thanks for letting me know
Fairchild sensor over everything!
Stoked on this new camera for sure but the Og Fairchild sensor are forever some of the best made
Mate you're absolutely correct! Till this day I haven't seen an image look so good other than Arri.
👍🏾
@@Altcine and that’s because I believe those sensors were built for arri and not used. Rumor has it another wave was supposed to be used in the pocket 4k but the tsunami happened and they had to get the Sony sensors
I think blackmagic as a company will continue to expand...they LISTEN to your client base even though it may have taken a while. Hopefully you weren't too much in the red designing the box camera on your own. We still appreciate the work you've put in. I think blackmagic are aware of you and the work you've done. Thank you
Thank you bro, that’s very kind of you and yes…better late than never. We’re still releasing the eclipse as it will be a collectors item but the 4k models can go to camera heaven lol
Love your energy
FYI: Canon and Sony have patents for internal ND systems for mirrorless bodies… also both companies have sensor tech that could well negate the need for ND filters altogether. It’s almost certain that at least one of these technologies is soon to be released in a mirrorless body. I’ll wait until that happens. My current cameras all outshine this Blackmagic box camera… and the new 12k is too large for my shooting style.
Yeah that's true, won't be long until most cams have it. Did you see that company that made eVND glass? Apparently they're ready to scale up and sell it to camera manufacturers.
How’s the rolling shutter? Is there a crop at 4K ??
I believe everything will be the same as the cinema 6k ff.
@@Altcine 😓
You and the nexus project definitely made it clear the black magic the box form factor is what's wanted
🙌🏾🙌🏾 yeah definitely. We first started designing and talking about it years ago...just a shame we took so long.
Go with l-mount! You can easily adopt ef lenses to it
Yes that's good advice and a lot of people said that but I really want to avoid adapters if possible. I don't even use my speedbooster on the micro often.
I don't get the side monitor placement. Would prefer even a tiny one but on the top.
No internal ND?
Another thing, although not important to me, just curious: why won't they make the camera to WiFi itself, without the need of a phone? I think Panasonic did that. And would it even work when the phone is connected to the internet via WiFi and not 4g / 5g
I think it's ok at the side. Most cine cams like Arri and Red have no monitors. The komodo does but it's not useable for work
Worse things have been done by Sony ie the fx6 and no audio inputs on body.
This looks like Blackmagic wanted a small box with proper networking capabilities for cinematic live streams and broadcast. Fits perfectly for what they're doing with the connected Ursa.
It's why I put the Arri 35 part at the beginning.
@@Altcine can't see a scenario where it would be convenient at the side for a solo filmmaker. Even a small one at the top for settings would work
@@imiy look at the broadcast side of things and why they put ethernet and RTMP into this camera with a metal body. I don't think solo filmmakers are the number 1 focus although they could use this if needed.
Wait was the og fairchild sensor dual gain? I knew it was a killer sensor but i didn't think they could fit that into such a small body.
Also I read blackmagic's custom sensors are still manufactured by fairchild (no idea if thats true) and still look amazing. I'm super excited for the ursa cine.
I think the only reason Fairchild stopped is because Sony bought some of their business and patents.
I think they still manufacture some parts but not for consumer cams.
The new BM sensors are made by Sony....just like most other brands which are all dual iso...not dual gain.
Research all my claims yourself as I could be wrong but I believe the only dual gain sensors available right now are only older Blackmagics & Arri.
@@Altcine @Altcine sorry should have clarified. By custom sensors I ment the 4.6k sensor and maybe 12k sensor were manufactured by Fairchild (bought by onsemi). All their pocket and broadcast sensor are Sony.
But its the og's dual gain that surprised me. I did look it up and apparently it's two 11bit signals which is super surprising.
I have no idea the challenges, but uou should look into modifying the old 2.5k production camera. I believe it's a larger cut of the same sensor as the og.
Absolutely love your projects!
@@nickxc ahhh gotcha. I actually don't know who does their custom sensors so it could be made by a branch of Fairchild as Sony didn't buy the whole lot.... you're teaching me something new.
Yeas the dual gain on some of the old sensors is incredible. They all have a funny issue but the OG & micro definitely are the best as the moiré is easy to deal with.
Definitely need to look at more models but we're really committed to building our a pro cinePi that people can make at home.... hopefully.
Thank you for your support bro
Yeah for the first time I’m looking closely at the BM cameras, but for now I believe I’m going to go for the video assist at its reduced price and the new micro panel. So progressively getting into the BM ecosystem.
Nice. I saw that they were reducing the price but I ran off to order the camera so missed that part, good price?
@@Altcine Yeah reduced by $200.
@@candyartstv not bad at all
I like to think that it was people like yourself that finally woke Blackmagic up to finally building the camera that users actually wanted. The approach you’ve taken was still game-changing in how fast you could realise a product. The least Blackmagic should do is offer you a job!
Thank you brother, that's a nice thought and I hope it's true.
It might have seemed like I hated Blackmagic but I actually love them. When I first started with camera's my first upgrade to a proper camera was the p4k and I loved BM since....just never got on with the shape.
It actually feels good to talk about them positively for a change.
Pleeeease keep pushing your Micro OG project cause Im keen on a rigid box cam for a cinelifter drone to be able to shoot braw in a box form factor. The Pyxis is nice but way to heavy to get a decent flight performance. Pls do it, Im begging you on my knies, man
Its only a camera. But its the one we've all been waiting for. Really looking forward to hearing your comments when you get your hands on one. Have fun Colin.
That's right, it is only a camera but a long overdue one. 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Great to see this excitement! Hope you don't mind sharing it's arrival :)
You can tell I'm so excited. A proper Cine can with a 6k ff to boot. Time to build the anamorphic set
@@Altcineawesome
is it decided already or can we hope for comparisons and what are your thoughts on those zooms... gotta curb my enthusiasm:)
@@Behnam_Moghaddam nothing decided you'll probably see me with some cheap vintage glass lol
Should've got the L-Mount and an EF adapter, its not like theyre crazy solid mounts
It’s a locking mount so should be better than standard. Also I really don’t want to use adapters as they make some lenses far to long.
You’re treasure Colin - moving on ! ❤❤❤
Thank you, appreciate you man.❤
Great video
Thank you
Maybe you guys could do a monitor and cage for the Pyxis.
We were thinking of doing some accessories but unfortunately I cancelled my order.
I had my reservations with blackmagic in the 2010s to be taken seriously on their camera releases and their broadcast hardware modularity
now, its so synergized where it all clicks together with their BM Camera to Cloud offering and finally a "no-limits" URSA Cine, a true cinema featured camera, especially the AC side monitor, and Kimodo rival box camera
BM is coming out ahead of the game and shouldn't be slept on
Yes 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 you understand it fully! I added the Arri part at the beginning to show people what's happening in the industry but they don't see it. This smaller connected cam is perfect companion for bigger ursa's.
I can see broadcasters putting this on a couple small stands or hanging discreetly whilst using the bigger ursa manned.
It's just great that with a monitor it can be used for handheld too.
Would be even more usable with RF, Z or L mount (or even NO mount) which would be best as a base!! They missed a trick here. Seams like a bit of a waste/inefficient to make multiple fixed mount versions but what do I know... one of the things i love about my Komodo is the really huge range of lenses I can use on it but hmmm..
I just think making multiple mounts for one camera and for them to speak electronically might have increased the price quite a lot.
We know they can do it and some people would definitely pay extra but this is more inline with how they price cams. But yes...what do WE know...it's all just speculation by us but I'm pretty sure this cam will do well.
I saw the announcement and I know what you are going to say BUT the HYPE is SOOOOO REAAAAL thaaaaaat is why I am watching.
Absolutely bro, it's all brilliant stuff they've done.
Everybody in the industry watched your channnel
Judging by Grant Petty's recent announcements and some other crazy mods at NAB....I'd say you're right 🙌🏾
this is gonna go crazy with the dji focus pro for people that need it
Can you imagine. The Pyxis, focus pro and a good monitor 🤌🏾🤌🏾
@@Altcine lets just add cooke sp3 on this camera as well 😅 excited to see content with this setup from you brotha, lesgoooo 🧨
i just dont get it though man... why tf doesnt it have internal nd? how can they put internal nd in the 6k pro and then not put it in any of their subsequent cameras in that price range?
It's a good question. I read quite a few comments about the ND not being that good but I honestly have no real idea as to why it doesn't have them.
Yuup there ya go...17k sensor and a 6k box camera..therr nuts..
Yeah some insane stuff this year and this is how you take tech forward.
PYXIS looks amazing.
A tank 🤌🏾
It certainly looks good, but we really don’t know if it is. Before you get too excited… Does it have auto focus? How’s the rolling shutter? If the auto focus sucks and the rolling shutter is terrible then it doesn’t matter how pretty the boxes it only matters what kind of images we’re going to get. And nobody seems to be talking about this. And I hear the dynamic range is just OK. I don’t know… Waiting for the Sony a7s4…. Which may blow this back camera out of the water.
I got FX3 and recently sold my 2 FX6's as I don't need them for work anymore.
I'm currently shooting on Blackmagic micro and started with canon Eos-M in magic lantern...I think I'll be ok with this 😅
A lot of us are fine without auto focus…the majority of people doing narrative work. Dynamic range is not much of an issue when lighting is setup properly. Just want people to realize that not every camera is for them. Respect 🫡
I hope the next version has built in ND filter
Yeah that would have been nice and a flip screen.
It does
Get excited about it! 👏🏾
Yeah man, can't wait to use it 🙌🏾
All these people saying RIP to Arri clearly don't know the industry or use Arri cameras. there is a reason people use them and will continue to use them. Sony will probably wince with the Burano but just chalk it up to a lesson I really see that more as a concept they let go to market and is actually pushing the boundries and is still a great camera. Sony just have the money to push an industry that way. Zcam and Kinefinity are surely going to be more in danger though Zcam seem more interested in lighting now and not so much about their cameras anyhow.
Good points. As good as Blackmagic get, It's safe to say Arri are very secure in their position.
@@Altcine You get it man. It's a great time to be alive to see such innovation in the industry and to have such choice from am Eos M to an Arri Alexa to a Fuji GFX just insane. When I started I was asking for 24p in standard Def and to record to a SD card and not to mini DV
@@heartshapedfilms absolutely. I think most people are just too spoiled and only when you realise how tough things were...you appreciate the little.
Does it have auto focus?
No, just the one touch AF like previous cams.
Please still do yours! I want to buy!
The OG eclipse or G2 Blackbox?
It di not kill your mod, but You also can do a mod for the pyxie with a foldable monitor since the monitor si fix at the side
You're absolutely correct. I've already got at least 10 mods I'd like to do. Thanks man
Sorry, bro but i dont think Sony shooters will leave Sony for this camera. I may buy one myself , but it will not be my A cam nor will it replace my Sony cameras.
All good. Very exciting. For me, Blackmagic is always the highlight of NAB.
Yeah man, they smashed it this year.
@@Altcine It is probably guys like you who lit the fire to get them thinking.
@@daylight5500 it's just crazy how similar it looks to our B6k.
@@Altcine can you think of any reason as to why they do not have a HDMI out. Can one use the USB C as a HDMI out or is the idea to use a phone as monitor using the USB C instead of the EVF?
@@daylight5500 I think there's a couple reasons. I think this isn't aimed at your casual low budget shooter... it's somewhere in the middle and I genuinely think this is meant to support the new Ursa's for cinematic broadcasts which I believe is going to be a big part of media creation in the future.
We can't look at this cam like an everyday A cam, although it can be used as one it's definitely in the realms of a supporting camera like the komodo's original use case.
Finally if you give this camera everything then it will cannibalise the pocket range and that would be a bad business move.
A lot of people will hate this cam but I see the future of professional, well built metal camera ready for cinema and broadcasts but at a very good price.
FINALLY!!! the price for this is insane!!
So good right! I was hoping under 3k but when I saw the networking features I was thinking it would be more.
@@Altcine Yes, they did it again. Let's see what Sony does with an FX3 mark2. Wish Sony would have a box camera too. I have a Komodo and LOVE rigging it so easy!
agreed, price is crazy
@@akcine sony does have a box camera, its called a fx6, I don't think the fx3 mark2 is the competition for this camera
It was absolutely legendary!
Fantastic man
Even I'm hyped and I'm not even a camera enthuiast...😊
😂😂 you mad man
Why not at least a flippy screen on the side there like a camcorder has... would be giving more flexibility and if flipped in, the screen would be protected too... ;)
That's right, that would have taken this to a 10/10
@@Altcine Always room for improvement! ;)
😮
Yep we're all shocked
I sincerely disagree. What you've done with the M-Lite says otherwise. This might have killed your ambitions with the Micro G2 box body but this might also be a sign. You guys are capable of so much more and I hope you don't lose sight of that.
I do have to say the Pyxis is really interesting but they'd better add touch screen functionality to a videoassist or something
Thank you brother, I appreciate that. The decision on the G2 wasn't because of the Pyxis though...I just don't think it's worth it over doing our own CinePi and I also want to build a new more meaningful channel.
The Eclipse will give everyone an idea of what we can do.
I hope the VA can control pyxis, that would be great. Considering it's SDI like the G2 it could be possible.
Ohhh I just saw VA controls aren't possible.
Atomos just dropped the ninja phone monitor
Really 😮 lemme go check it out
It looks Good I just hope I can use it on the Eos- M
5:50 no dude, it’s not dumb or silly, it’s good to be excited and passionate about something in life… otherwise, what’s the point of living? I love technologies, I’m a geek, so I get excited by stuff like that, even thought I’m just a video editor and not a camera operator, so I will probably never buy a Pyxis, or Ursa Cine, and yet I still want to know more about the future Ursa Cine Medium Format 17k… life is good, so enjoy it as long as it lasts!
I'm glad you said this, it's true. I had to buy cameras which made work easier but my first real "pro" camera was p4k and loved everything apart from the body. Now I'm back doing passion stuff, it feels good to be passionate about a camera again.
Thank you brother
Blackmagic played us beautifully. They some how convinced many of us that just by changing the form factor to a box, and removing a really good monitor, and increasing the price, still got us praising just because box easy to rig?
I hear what you're saying but I'm seeing a different picture. This looks like a high end camera for cinematic broadcasts that can still be used by the average cinematographer.
@@Altcine In my humble opinion, if they wont discontinue the OG BMCC FF 6K for couple of years into the future, I have no issues or qualms.
Amazing price ❤ so cheap
It's very good. I know the komodo is still a better camera specs wise, I'm not going to argue at 3k.
so its just a rehoused pocket?
Pretty much 😅 I have no problem with the pocket apart from the shape.
Image is good throughout the range, rolling shutter is my only issue with 6k
@@Altcine yea the jelly effect was bad, my concern was my cam had a good chance of turning into a toaster mid shoot and the memory always fluctuated, give it a year and this cam will flood eBay with fried out SDI 😂
@@MachinaExplorer maybe I should wait...could make some great DIY projects 😅
Don't kill your idea of a box camera. Run with it. You can make a market.
Thank you. Our first box Blackmagic is already completed.
I've been showing it on Instagram but the full video will be out this month.
Guys, Blackmagic intentionally didn't release the another BLACKMAGIC PYXIS camera with articulated screen.
They are very clever as this design doesn't allow single person shooting
If you throw a monitor on top then good to go?
The nexus project did an announcement based around the pyxis. They're still gonna be releasing. They are confident their design is better than the pyxis.
😅😅 I've gotta see this camera if it ever materialises.
@@Altcine I'll be interested to see if it ever actually materializes into a physical model.
@@paperstacksfilms yeah it's wildly ambitious for the size and price he's quoting. Idk man...it's all a bit weird.
Let's see what happens.
Yeah they sure made short work of your camera mods. Oh they took your lunch money they did, but I'm sure you'll be back at it in no time
Absolutely they did and I'm glad. I've always said if they do it then it saves me a job.
Really excited to get this
Thanks for the video man, but what the F is going on with the battery option??? Full frame nice camera but no V mount option???? Stupid Blackmagic Design again, and again!!!1
Thanks man. I like bpu, they last long but not sure on Pyxis as the screen will drain it. It looks like theirs a lot of options for rigging though or maybe bpu to vmount adapter?
It's a 3k dollar camera and i still see people complaining.
Bro, on the Blackmagic group it is actually ridiculous! I thought they'd be happy that BM took this step....is it perfect...no but at least they added a screen & a 3.5 jack unlike the fx6.
@@Altcine The 12k Cine LF looks insane too. Seems to me it's pretty obvious what to rent if you don't have the budget for an Arri LF.
@@botbot3698 yep it's fantastic. Arri came into my head when I heard the specs and the price of the 17k 65mm is fantastic.
Idk, FX6 has usable AF and built in eVND. I believe if your budget can stretch it’s a more solid choice for more shooters.
@@angryrabbitproductions1690 it's double the price..that's not really another option that's a whole new realm. Don't get me wrong FX6 is great and I owned 2 of them for work but it's not all bells and whistles.
Sometimes the Nd wasn't strong enough so you still had to step down and some people preferred using external Nd over Sony's inbuilt.
The lack of 3.5mm jack means you were forced into using the handle for even smaller jobs.
If your handle broke then it'll set you back £1250 which is crazy. So whilst it's great and I'd recommend it...it did come with its own set of issues.
PYXIS is my new wife now
i dont think they killed your camera, as your camera is kinda different to theirs, i think they can be brothers
Absolutely bro, I was kidding about the eclipse but I see no reason to build anything else.
The project has to super cool like the eclipse (limited edition and Fairchild) or it isn't worth tbh. Why buy a modified cam for 2 or 3k when you can have a new camera with good specs and warranty.
I like the comment about brothers, they will look great together.
❤️
No Internal ND's.... right ? *sigh*
Yeah that's right. I'm good with the old way though
3000 food price
Graduated from a cinema school, ran a video production agency for 8 years. I lost my interest to video production totally.
Since Blackmagic started LOG shooting and other camera companies followed that workflow, everything seems too gimmick to me. As camera technology evolves, it pushes me away and made me interested in more basic older tech.
Let’s admit that, clients do not care about what picture profile you take the video. After long years of LOG, Sony came up with a non-LOG picture profile with cinematic color range. That’s signal of change for me.
I now more interested in old 5D’s (mark II and III), Panasonic GH4, Sony a7s (original) etc. Even 5DMII still has a fantastic image. Yes it is lacking of tons of features compared to todays cameras but clients are only asking for simple vertical videos for their Instagram. That format or other social media content doesnt need too cinematic 4K or 8K footage.
We talk about all features but in the end of the day people watch videos on their phones and I ask myself “do we really need that kind of complicated systems?” or “do all pieces we crate have to be cinematic?”. And my answer is always a “no” even I was once one of the biggest camera nerds.
There’s many types of clients and work out there…not just social media and vertical video. Some of us do full time narrative, music video or commercial work. I respect that the camera’s not for you but it’s definitely got it’s place 🤙
@@iStaySharp I wish I was living in a first world country to do what I really love. But once you live in a country with %100 yearly inflation, after several years, clients take videos with their phones and ask you to edit to minimize the budget. Lately, thanks to capcut, many of our clients stopped working with us and create their own video content. Music videos? They work only with the directors/producers who do it for FREE. Not willing to pay even a penny. Commercials? Mafia is a gatekeeper and it is impossible to get good production jobs as independent director. Youonly have small businesses with no budget left in the market for you. So yeah...
Add some NDs, AF, full size XLR, Vlock and Prores and I might buy one. Not saying it's bad, just that I'd still rather shoot on my FX6 for usability. All they've done here is stick a sensor in a box. Feels like a 'back of a fag packet' design to me. Next version might be great!
This looks like Blackmagic wanted a small box with proper networking capabilities for cinematic live streams and broadcast. Fits perfectly for what they're doing with the connected Ursa.
It's why I put the Arri 35 part at the beginning.
let me make this clear I love this camera but there's a reason that I won't ever buy it and that's the fact that it doesn't have internal ND filters if it did it would be an automatic purchase even if it was only $400 more expensive and you might ask why and I'll tell you because number one it's an extra thing to carry and number two they're super annoying as a solo operator yes when you're working with a team and you have an AC it's less annoying but it still takes up valuable time
I hear that and it's understandable. Not such a big deal to me but valid points nonetheless.
Was just about to let you know but I see you got the memo
Sorry fam.
It's all good. Yeah I was watching with my wide eyes :D
what's with the BOX obsession
Screen on side wtf
Brave man willing to be a beta tester for BM buying one of their cameras without users getting their hands on it first to make sure it actually works as intended.
Yeah I made that mistake with 6kpro but this isn't exactly a new camera under the hood so should be ok....fingers crossed
No internal ND. Nope.
I still need HDMI
I do too tbh
People are never satisfied. You can’t always get what you want, work with what you have. This camera satisfies my thirst as long as the image that comes out of it is great, I am satisfied.
@@APU658 I am very often satisfied. But the omission of a HDMI port is a big mis for me.
They also killed dehancer
Yea I thought the same thing
How so?
Yeah that's right! All of those features like Gate weave what Dehancer charged extra for are all in resolve. Fantastic
They even sort of copied dehancers visual structure.
@@Altcinebut it has no film emulations
box camera body? meh. no built-in nd filters, only 13 stops of dr, monitor on the side that doesnt articulate??? ugh. id much rather have a 6k pro with a viewfinder
I understand, we all have different needs so it won't suit everyone.
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No need to dig your grave 😂 Your work is giving us budget hindered people hope
Thank you brother, I will definitely carry on doing mods and can't wait to produce my own accessories for the Pyxis.
They straight up copied your design. The lease BM could do is send you a free one.
Man I was pressing Tom to release the images since The Creator came out and I made our first box cam update last year and last asked him in January.
I really wish he agreed 😔
@@Altcine Images aside, without the interest your efforts generated, I doubt BM would have ever pulled their finger out.
But for me 13 stops doesn't cut it. Hell I'd rather have a 16 stop 1080p camera than a 17K Ursa any day. I don't know what they are thinking. Give us dynamic range and frame rates and if going to lower resolutions can get us there then do that.
@@colourberry thanks man 🙏🏾
I think it's safe to say BM are going after live cinematic broadcasts and studio productions...Grant knows this area well.
If that's the case we still have to look at the pipeline from capture to destination...can we make use of all the data?
I think the bigger cams with better DR will pick up the bulk of pro productions and the Pyxis is a b-roll cam.
having a fixed side screen is going to be the frustrating to everybody who buys this.
I definitely wouldn't have this as my only camera.
@@Altcine This is Typical Blackmagic. Take one step forward, two steps back. It's like they don't have anyone in their Engineering dept that actually shoots in the field to make something as easy as this, ergonomic.
It's great for the interviews I shoot.
I sit beside the camera interviewing not behind it lol
@@SystemParanoia Now try and imagine everyone else who's using it looking at the side of the camera instead of towards the subject. Also when running a gunning, always having to bend your head over and make adjustments. It's gonna be a doozy when everyone starts using it.
@@Spinflight those situations are beyond my budget and skill level.
If it were in budget, I'd have "people" to handle all that camera nonsense while I use my big brain to bring this project to life! So I can hurry up and go back home to my mega yacht in Monaco 😎
Prayers for what? No ND filters, side panel, weak rolling shutter, no HDMI, Micro xlr, slow fps, no global shutter, 13 stops dynamic range in 2024 (???). This is all a joke right?
So I'm the only one that's remarkably disappointed? I wanted a Mini URSA with a full frame for another $2000-$3000. Instead we get a camera that costs $9000 more than the ursa mini and is twice the size. It's a camera that will fit on almost no gimbal and will be a massive beast to shoot handheld. We finally get a box camera and again, no internal ND filters. I guess I'm the only one that bought a bunch of 6k pro cameras and said I'm never buying another camera without internal ND as long as I live. I'm not going back to variable ND. I'm not going back to screwing filters on. I'm not going back to ND filters that make everything green. I'm not going back to $450 filters that break because they're literally just big pieces of glass. I'm not going back to spending 2 minutes to change out a ND filter on a run n gun shoot. Man fuck these cameras.
This is why I make my own stuff. Even with fx6 which I loved and had Nd, I hated the screen was attached by cable and no mic port. The Komodo had no internal vnd and a useless screen....I think we will cope😅
Again, this is why I design and make my own stuff rather than waiting for manufacturers
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No ND Filters - No 16:9 FF - 17:9 FF 48fps max WTF
Yeah I know but we can't have it all. I'm happy about this though and I look forward to setting it up with ethernet for my new ventures
Finally...I am buying PXXY (PYXIS) 6k .
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