Sorry but I would never set a niche this way. Love and only use your products, but you have this one backwards. Always set the wall tile first because your wall may have a bow or be out of plumb. This will change the depth cut of the niche side cuts. Pre-cut miter your profiles with the trapezoids on the wall side. Use tin snips to remove the small metal on the profile. It will bind in a saw. Use a Diablo Speed Demon blade on a miter saw to cut the 45°s. The cuts for a 12x12 niche will be 11 1/4" to the outside of the miter 90% of the time. Just depends on the thickness of the tile going in the sides of the niche. You can use a very small amount of hot glue or a small strip of tape to hold the mitered profiles together. Square them up perfectly on a flat surface, take them over to the wall and use painters tape on the top of the trapezoid of the top profile to hold it in place. THEN set all your wall tile. Shower walls that are bowed or inside corners of walls can result in 1/2" of mortar behind the tile at the niche location sometimes. Set the profiles behind the wall tile making sure plenty of mortar is holding your pre-fab profiles in place. THEN after the wall tile is set, install the tile in the back of the niche and take your measurement from that to the inside of the profile. If your wall was bowed or out of plumb this is where the adjustment to the niche is made. Your way could result in a 1/2" gap between the profiles and the niche side tiles. That's alota grout. Hope this helps someone.
It would be helpful to mention cut length of piece to corners of walls etc when using quadec corner pieces and the depth iff any to push against the wall to allow thinset and tile so the tile doesn’t stand out too far
Wish they had samples like at 1:51 on their website or a video showing the different types installed with descriptions/ color, so one could compare and select the type that one likes.
Hi there, if ever you need a sample of one of our profiles, you can always order through our customer service team. 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Our team would be happy to send some specific samples, or we also have Wall Chain Set, Floor Chain Set. Hope this helps for now.
I am installing tile today and doubt you will get back to me in time, but it's not clear if the tile inside the niche is flush with the outside edge of the wall or if it should have a gap the thickness of the grout line between the back edge of the Jolly strip and the inside edge of the tile in the niche
@@peaceindarkness.darknessis3494 not really if you're going for quality over speed. I'd rather take my time and do a good job, keep my job looking clean for the homeowner, and for my own sake, less messy.
Exactly, there's even guides to miter the tile perfectly, without the chipping. Miter is arguably aesthetically superior to trim, although more difficult to execute.
@@thatguy4234 Butchered or not I don't care for mitered tile edges. Too "Sprockets" for me. Tile trim with mitered corners is actually my preference though difficult to execute.
I'm sold! What a great idea for edging shower niches. But the only issue not discussed is how to buy Quadec. It's probably my fault but I went to a few different online vendors and it showed prices of around $8. For what you ask? It says that for $8 I get one inch. One inch of what? It couldn't be $8/inch because that would put the overall cost of a 16"x12" niche at about $450. So that couldn't be right. So what do I get for my $8? If anyone knows what I'm doing wrong here, let me know. I did order the one inch as advertised on Lowes so I'll have the answer in a couple of days which I'll share if I don't hear back from anyone...and believe me when I say that ALL the online vendors show exactly the same setup, $8 or so for one inch of something...
Thanks for reaching out! Our Customer Service Team will be best suited to help you. You can reach them at 1-800-472-4588 (USA) or 1-800-667-8746 (CAN). Have a great day!
is it safe to assume you will finish off the bottom peice the same as the top?, without overlapping the bottom peice over the face tile you have created a flat horizontal seam exposed to massive water ,,whats to keep the water from entering shower between the metal and the bottom tile . ,,you will always have water sitting on that grout joint
Hi Bill. Yes, the bottom of the niche is fitted out with a profile the same method as shown at the top. The water will get in the grout joint, but the benefit of a sealed waterproof system is that the water will not damage the substrate behind the shower. This will allow the assembly to dry between uses.
You didn't show how to combine in that shelf. Do you run two long verticals passed it or do you need to frame out below and above the shelf? Does one have to precursor tiles to support that shelf?
Hi Theresa, would you be able to give our Product Support team a call to discuss your project in a bit more detail, they will be able to advise from there. 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks!
Informative stuff. I’ve never seen any videos that grout after applying the trim. How do you seal to prevent any water penetration into the back of the tile?
Hi Ralph, you can treat the trim like an extension of the tile. The entire tile installation would be completed prior to grouting. Any moisture that gets into the grout joints or into the thin-set under the edges of the tile will just evaporate after a little while. Hope this helps!
Hi there! After installing the niche into the wall, we would use the KERDI-BAND to seal the seam between the wall and the niche. Here is an another video showing how to waterproof the niche: www.schluter.ca/schluter-ca/en_CA/video_kerdi-board/video/YIGFSVgAhpA/playlist/PLEFjeySFJM-Bj3ovDWn1AT2oG_6Wsp0ED Hope that helps!
Hello, Can I use the profile to support glass tile mesh mounted, above my kitchen window? o Do I need to add some other support until the mortar dry to avoid the profile and the tiles fall? Thanks
Hi there! Yes, we installed the tile inside of the niche first. This makes it easier to install the edge of the profile flush to the edge of the inside tile without having to build-up the thin-set under the inside tile. Hope this helps!
Hi Kat, thanks for the question! No they do not rust, you can call our Customer Support team to ensure you are picking an appropriate finish for your application. Please give them a call at US: 888-472-4588, thanks!
I set my schluter edging profile on the inside of the niche with miter cuts as I'm setting rile. Then, fab the niche with wood and then coated in waterproofing. not sure why you'd make it harder and doesn't look good setting it on the face, imo
@@Justforfun-ek7et ser the inside of niche after the face of wall is dried. use the edges of the niche as a guide when cutting around niche. layout and niche placement is important. You got this 👍 @wishbonecustomtile
Hi there! We have another video that shows how to create and finish a niche shelf. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/697IqAYmpnk/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps!
HI there ! When using the prefabricated shelf, determine the desired height of the shelf and mark with a level line. Set tile up to that line on the back and sides of the niche. Butter the sides and back of the shelf with Schluter-SET, Schluter-ALL-SET, Schluter-FAST-SET, or unmodified thin-set mortar and solidly embed it in the niche, resting on the previously installed tile. The shelf may be raised at the back to create a slope, or the tile may be set on a slope, to prevent water from pooling in the finished application. You can find more information on this page of our website: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Building-Panels/KERDI-BOARD-Panels/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-BOARD-SN/p/KERDI_BOARD-SN?facets=false
wait, i thought the legs went under the niche wall’s tile, not the shower wall’s tile, so i guess it can work both ways? is it purely installer preference? or are there advantages to one way over the other? And if so, what are those pros and cons?
Hi Chris! Yes, the profile anchoring legs may be placed inside or outside of the niche, based on the desired look and preference. Installing the anchoring legs on the inside of the niche allows for more adjustment with the profiles and wall tile to ensure everything is aligned properly. Installation of anchoring legs on the outside will allow you to hide things like cut tile edges or install the wall tile and profile and come back to tile the niche at a later time or not have to miter a profile such as Schluter®-JOLLY. The choice may also depend on which profile is selected and the desired look.
this isnt a tips and tricks video, this is an advertisement. you didn't show how you cut the rondec and you only applied one piece. I wanted to see how you lined up the corners, but you'd have to complete the niche to show that.
@@schlutersystems1 No you wont. But claiming tips and tricks to get people to click on your advertisements leaves a bad taste in my mouth too. Not enough to run a permanent boycott on Schluter, but its equivalent to a door to door schluter salesman showing up with obvious chicken grease all over his face.
@@adeebihabibi No. Im fine thanks. My tile looks great. Pro's do not just descend from heaven to do your tile.your husband must love you being without skill and just racking up credit card debt. Credit. Because financial wealth and skills usually correspond. Your comment is like "I dont know how to do tile" like you just dabbed on me. Heres what I got: Cement board on the walls. taped and floated and latex water proofing. Then tile with 2 miter jointed custom nitches. Latex water proofing on the sublfoor then rock board. more latex waterproofing on that, then a tile job I layed out using computer software to get a more perfect layout. I can go anywhere and look at "pro" work and laugh at it and point out how its inferior and where they went wrong. My install is bullet proof and right. Im not coming to do your tile because Im rich and dislike most people. So enjoy your "stress free pro" install.
So, If I'm installing 1/2" ceramic tile, I have to get 1/2" trim? Does the trim account for the thinset? Won't the tile be higher then the trim with thinset? Please help and explain. Thanks
@@rjvillanueva64 yes, you are correct, get another trim size that is the next higher size to accommodate your mortar. The people at the tile store I should help you with this question
@@rjvillanueva64 You have the right idea. Keep in mind that a tile labeled as a half inch nominal size isn't exactly a half inch, remember that the anchor leg has a certain thickness, remember that the schluter profiles can be installed with the anchor leg in either orientation, etc.
It's hard to see but, is the Keridi board flush or recessed with the edge of the inside niche wall? What forms the seal on that edge? Is it just grout between the inside niche tile and the Rondec that is the seal??
Hi there accidentalvoyeur! The Kerdi-Board meets the "flange" of the niche and is flush. Then the waterproofing seal is created by using Kerdi-Band over the abutting edges.
Thank you Chuck! The shelf seen on this video is actually a glass shelf with a beveled and finished front edge. Our Schluter SHELF is available now that would not require any finishing edges. You can see the options here: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Shower-System/Accessories/Shelves/Schluter%C2%AE-SHELF-N/p/SHELF_N
Hi hkgeldean! We used a bunch of different products throughout this video. Here's the list: The solid backing is our KERDI-BOARD, and we installed a KERDI-SHOWER-SN Shower niche with our KERDI-BAND waterproofing the seam between the niche and the KERDI-BOARD on the wall. The KERDI-BOARD shelf in the niche comes in larger sizes. The glass shelf in the niche is made from a purchased piece of cut glass and is installed using our DECO-SG profiles. The profiles we show you that finish around the niche are: we used RONDEC for the demonstration that Aaron holds in his hand. It's the round finishing profile. We used QUADEC on the main demonstration where they actually installed part of the profile. Both RONDEC and QUADEC have corners pieces available. Towards the end of the video, Andy shows some Sample pieces of other profiles and DIADEC is shown in his hand there. I hope this helps to decipher the products used within the video. Thanks for checking out our channel. :)
Well it was neat how you did that but you didn't explain was a tile already in the niche because I see I didn't see you put a band of Charity around it to waterproof the niche did you already have tile inside the niche you never said can we explain things better
Cuz I really like the product and I'm learning it but on some of your videos like this one you didn't save you already had the time it looked like there was a gap
Hi Christopher! We completed the waterproofing with the KERDI membrane and then when we begun our demonstration we did already have a tile installed in the back of the niche. This is a shorter tip and trick video on how to finish our KERDI-BOARD-SN shower niches using profiles, but you can check out these complete installation videos that may be helpful.This video shows a detailed step by step installation of our shower niche and how to waterproof it: th-cam.com/video/YIGFSVgAhpA/w-d-xo.html For FULL details on tiling a shower niche with our profiles please check out this video. It will help to explain the entire process:th-cam.com/video/TfXjPwiCY4U/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps!
Its nice to add these corners instead of miters, but 2 - 12"x20" niches with stock shelves would require 16 pcs at over 12 dollars each is over $200.00, not good!
Hi Tom, in this case with the 16 corners, it can get a bit pricier, especially if using our solid aluminum corners. One cost-saving option could be mitering the corners instead.
What should I tell the Client about cleaning their shower that has Rondec profiles installed. They are using Polished Chrome in the Master Bath and Brushed Nickel in the other 2 baths. Also any tips on grouting without scratching the profiles? I was going yo tape it all off.
Hi Johnette, Rondec can be cleaned using neutral cleaning agents and tools, nothing abrasive. Your client should avoid the use of strong acids (e.g. hydrochloric or hydrofluoric) and base/alkaline cleaners (e.g. bleach, ammonia, chlorides). It shouldn't be necessary to tape the profile off when grouting. We recommend working with materials and tools that will not scratch or damage sensitive surfaces. It is also very important to remove thin-set or grout from the surface immediately, especially for aluminum profiles. Hope this helps, please feel free to reach out to our Product Support team if you'd like to discuss your project in more detail! 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks 🍊
Finec is much more... erm... fine 😉 😄. It has a very slim reveal surface. Here are links to both for more info. Finec: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Profiles/For-Walls/Edging-%26-Outside-Wall-Corners/Schluter%C2%AE-FINEC/p/FINEC Jolly: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Profiles/For-Walls/Edging-%26-Outside-Wall-Corners/Schluter%C2%AE-JOLLY/p/JOLLY
Newbie question here. Nobody seems to address the actual positioning of the tiles in relation to the wall faces and edges. Is the front edge of that inside tile flush with the face of the wall (the wall he put the thinset on), or is it set back from that wall face to allow a grout joint?
Hi John, since most of our aluminum and PVC wall profiles have an integrated grout spacer, you can cut the tile flush with the wall or leave it set back a little, depending on your grout joint size preference. Although the QUADEC does come with an integrated grout spacer on both sides, we decided to set the tile back just a little (maybe 1/16" or so) in this case to provide a slightly larger joint. The stainless steel profiles do not have an integrated grout joint, so you would always keep the tile back a little from the edge with those to allow for that grout space. Hope that helps, please give our Product Support team a call if you'd like to discuss your project in detail! 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks 😊
@@schlutersystems1 Many thanks for your swift reply. I understand what you are saying; things are becoming clearer. As a newbie, about to embark on his first major tile job, I want to think of all the detail I can before I start. Thanks again.
You forgot to mention how much of the sluret metal you need to leave for the piece of tile that goes inside the sides of the nitch which is a very important point, because if you install the sluret metal flush with the edge of the cement board, it's going to look terrible,.so you need to leave it over the edge of cement board at least the width of tile you're installing “plus" 1/8 of an inch for thinset in order to make it flush with the slureth metal.
They way they did it and also the way I do it, is to install the tile inside the niche first flush with the wall. Then you set your trim on the outside around the niche. Now Just line it up flush with the tile inside the niche
Hey there! Correct. The niche itself is waterproof and then the KERDI overlaps the flange by 2", so the junction is waterproof there as well. All you would then use between the profile and the tiles is grout. No need to "seal" anything in that surface junction, as it is already "sealed" below.
@@schlutersystems1 Also I noticed you installed the trim flush with the inside of the niche. Is that just for demo purposes because the tile inside the niche should be covered by the trim also, correct? I'm a newbie as you have guessed!
Hi there, it depends. You have options based on your installation needs. There isn't necessarily a one size fits all approach. You could start from the floor, if it's flat. You can start from the niche or the floor, if you will have cut tiles between them. You could also start from the floor prior to cutting out for the niche to make sure you can use a whole tile up to the niche profile. Evaluate your installation parameters and choose the best option for your assembly based on that. Hope that helps.
What did you use to cut that miter? A chainsaw? I thought these guys had more skill than that. Anytime you cut a miter cut the tile square first then cut the miter leaving about a 16th of an inch of the original square cut remaining. This way you get a perfect miter cut every time. It' so easy to do.
The trim they installed in this video is what I am looking for along with the match edge piece and corners but Rona, Lowes and Home Depot in Canada do not carry these 3. The edging I can get but not the matching pieces.
Hi Peter, Maybe we can help! The profile in this video is called Rondec. They should be available at one of our authorized Schluter dealers. You can find your nearest, here: www.schluter.ca/schluter-ca/en_CA/store-finder Please don't hesitate to get in touch with us if you need further help, you can reach our customer support specialists at: 800-667-8746
You would usually tile right away. But you can wait, it you prefer, as long as your thin-set over the anchoring leg is smoothed out, so you don't have any bumps getting in the way of the tile install later on.
All of your videos are set up on a set build by y’all with time taken to make them go as easy as possible on the demonstration, I’ve used the schluter product for years now and have done nothing but make less money ever since
Bottom line, their videos are based on perfect conditions, hence the topic of my initial comment. Not my fault their representation of their product is not exactly accurate in the real world
Thats the skill of being a professional tile setter, prepping the job to make your install go easy, I will tear out a whole wall if I have to, to get level and plumb for my jobs.
Hi Roberto, It's important to check with the glass manufacturer for suggested setting materials. Please give our team a call for details, they can be reached at: 800-472-4588. Thank you!
We have both inside and outside corners available! Rondec is one of our most robust line of profiles and has tons of options. You can check them out on our website, or give our Support Team a call should you have any more questions. www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Profiles/For-Walls/Edging-%26-Outside-Wall-Corners/Schluter%C2%AE-RONDEC/p/RONDEC
Is it acceptable to set the profile as you have here and then come back and set the tile later after the thin set has hardened? I have a floor to ceiling profile to install and I am concerned about the open time of the thin set if I attempt to install the profile and the tile concurrently.
Hi Lucas, it is recommended to set the profile and adjacent tile at the same time to allow for the best all around installation of the tile and profile. When they are installed together this give the best opportunity to make any adjustments to the profile. If the profile is set prior to tile, care would need to be taken to ensure the profile is properly embedded and plumb so the tile installation is not impacted negatively. Hope this helps!
@@schlutersystems1 Thank you for your reply. In my application, I am setting an 8ft profile to finish the edge of a shower surround. The field is 3x6 marble tile. With only a 20 minute open time for All-Set, it just doesn't seem possible to tile the whole surround from floor to ceiling in that period of time. I think I'll have no choice but to set the profile first, taking care that it is plumb and avoiding excess mortar buildup.
Hi Lucas, can you give us a call? Our Support Team would be a great place to touch base with before you start your project. 888-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada).
Lucas Middleton try setting the tile up the wall and installing the trim second, I’ve done that several times because of the same problem you’re expressing. When you get ready to install the trim, just use a grout bag or some other old bag with the corner cut off to use as a semi caulk gun to fill the edges of the tile before you slide the trim in. Have some shims around and make sure to clean off the outer inch of tile before the install to make sure your trim will set flush against your wall tile..ps. Use the thinset you’re using in the bag for the install of the trim
You need to redo this video with a more detailed demo. This is just a series of hints that leave people trying to figure it all out while getting themselves into trouble with disappointing and unfixable results. I'm a retired shop teacher and I see so many disasters ahead because of a lack of anticipation of what the students will struggle with.
Our Product Support team is available for further support if needed, or we can set you up with your local Schluter rep if you'd like to discuss a particular project in more detail. Let us know if we can help!
Good question! Yes, we actually did leave a little space at the edge of the tile, even though the QUADEC in aluminum has an integrated joint spacer already, so we would have been okay without any extra here. We suggest a 1/16”-1/18” grout joint between the tile and the profile, so in this case it was closer to 1/8”. Remember that you for sure need to plan in your grout space for stainless steel because it does not have the integrated grout spacer. Hope this helps!
@@schlutersystems1 not sure we are on same page I understand the inside yes has a joint space but what I’m talking about, I guess would actually be the bottom of the profile where it flushes out to the outside tile
The QUADEC in aluminum and PVC has the grout spacer on both sides, but the stainless doesn't on either. So you'll need to keep the tile back for stainless steel installations or if you would like the heaver grout joint with the PVC or aluminum, you can do the same. You are also welcome to contact our Product Support team if you have further questions! US 800-472-4588 CA 800-667-8746
I get they are trying to sell a product, but why not just set tile on the inside walls of the niche to be flush with the surface first, then set the outer wall tile so overlaps the edge? I think that doing this would be much cleaner and easier and doesn't require overpriced unnecessary edging. Also, who the hell did your miters, they should be fired.
Yeah, because the majority of tile installers in the real world suck and do half ass jobs, if they even show up. This of course doesn't apply to you TH-cam commenting installers because you are all the best in the world. At any rate, I Would rather have a clean metal trim than some hack job trying to butt tiles together. I work in the industry, so quite familiar with the "tile professionals".
@@aijem423 Amen to that. You hit the nail on the head. We had our previous shower done it Schluter trim and are now completing our new walk in shower in our second home with Schluter trim. Makes it look very nice instead of the craptastic job that most TH-cam professionals do.
You guys are doing it backwards The profile installation goes inside the niche. You have to build the walls first And then the niche. The main reason about doing the walls first is because you have to plumb all your walls first. Unless if you don’t care
So the anchoring legs go under the tile on the inside of the niche rather than downward against the shower wall, right? So as you lay or install the tile on say the flat part of the niche, go ahead and place the Quadec or Rondec piece under the tile, right?
Lol at this guy telling the manufacturers how to install their own equipment. If you watched the other videos you would know that it can be installed either way, and that this particular demonstration is an intentional oversimplification.
Hi there. No, pressure treated plywood wood not be an approved substrate for DITRA. You can check out our Handbook here for approved methods: sccpublic.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/sys-master/images/hc5/h41/8949342732318/DITRA%20Installation%20Handbook.pdf If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to give our Support Team a call: 888-472-4588
@@andriyshapovalov8886 I think it could be called a bevel or a miter depending on if the profile was being set with the anchor leg on the wall vs inside the niche.
Well I got to the job ready to build my niche. Problem is Arizona tile doesn't know what they're selling or what works with your product. The corners they gave me didn't work I had to miter all of it. 8 miters and every cut the saw tried to rip it out of my hand. Don't tell me to use more teeth. These are meant for wood. But what do I do? Lose another half day trying to explain what Arizona should already know?? Then of course I have to wait a week or get stuck with 60 bucks worth of freight. None of these miracle solutions are worth it. I could have bullnosed everything and been done. There is no way I won't have to back cut my tile tomorrow because unless you're walls are finish carpentry flat this stuff is not going to lay correct. Sticking two pieces to a wall in the middle of nothing with nothing against it means nothing. It's just a pitch.
Here is a link to our Niche product page on our website... just go down the page and chose the size you want (under Height) and then each of the 4 part numbers will be displayed under the image. www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Building-Panels/KERDI-BOARD-Panels/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-BOARD-SN/p/KERDI_BOARD-SN?facets=false
someone has to come up with a prefab niche in a few different sizes..this niche business stinks big time....a big waste of time and money.. and I think pretty much a bad idea in general
Hi den d. We offer several different sizes of pre-fabricated niches. Check them out here: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Building-Panels/KERDI-BOARD-Panels/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-BOARD-SN/p/KERDI_BOARD-SN
I prefer installing corner shelves made out of the customers granite or quartz instead of the niches. So much faster and looks better as well. These niches don't hold a lot once tiled and complete. Sure they look nice but not worth what they cost and the time they take to install and time lost waiting for it all to dry so you can lay up around it.
If you've done 30 showers then you can afford a chop saw with a nonferrous metal blade. Use the schlueter corners. If you can measure accurately...no problem.
All read spend 300$ for that shit prefab niche before figure out the tile layout i charge same price to built n customise the niche the way client wont glass shelf stupide idea
But the miter looks best harder to pull off but looks best. Just hit the edges with a diamond pad or sanding stone and ur good to go.
Sorry but I would never set a niche this way. Love and only use your products, but you have this one backwards. Always set the wall tile first because your wall may have a bow or be out of plumb. This will change the depth cut of the niche side cuts.
Pre-cut miter your profiles with the trapezoids on the wall side. Use tin snips to remove the small metal on the profile. It will bind in a saw. Use a Diablo Speed Demon blade on a miter saw to cut the 45°s. The cuts for a 12x12 niche will be 11 1/4" to the outside of the miter 90% of the time. Just depends on the thickness of the tile going in the sides of the niche. You can use a very small amount of hot glue or a small strip of tape to hold the mitered profiles together. Square them up perfectly on a flat surface, take them over to the wall and use painters tape on the top of the trapezoid of the top profile to hold it in place.
THEN set all your wall tile. Shower walls that are bowed or inside corners of walls can result in 1/2" of mortar behind the tile at the niche location sometimes. Set the profiles behind the wall tile making sure plenty of mortar is holding your pre-fab profiles in place.
THEN after the wall tile is set, install the tile in the back of the niche and take your measurement from that to the inside of the profile. If your wall was bowed or out of plumb this is where the adjustment to the niche is made. Your way could result in a 1/2" gap between the profiles and the niche side tiles. That's alota grout. Hope this helps someone.
It would be helpful to mention cut length of piece to corners of walls etc when using quadec corner pieces and the depth iff any to push against the wall to allow thinset and tile so the tile doesn’t stand out too far
Agree with mitre as best solution. The Kerdi system with the end block won’t allow a tile to be continuous.
It would be nice to have a longer video showing EACH application installed. It's hard to pick out what is best for you showing just one option
Thanks for the feedback! We will pass this on to our video team. 🍊
Wish they had samples like at 1:51 on their website or a video showing the different types installed with descriptions/ color, so one could compare and select the type that one likes.
Hi there, if ever you need a sample of one of our profiles, you can always order through our customer service team. 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Our team would be happy to send some specific samples, or we also have Wall Chain Set, Floor Chain Set. Hope this helps for now.
Further to the Millar comment, I tiled the nitche and put the frame on before starting on the wall with no problems.
It may have worked out for you that time but in my opinion you're really taking a gamble and I'm curious to know why you made that choice.
I'd like to see the tile when it's finished
They should have showed a sample chart of it like they did the miter cuts
Yup
I am installing tile today and doubt you will get back to me in time, but it's not clear if the tile inside the niche is flush with the outside edge of the wall or if it should have a gap the thickness of the grout line between the back edge of the Jolly strip and the inside edge of the tile in the niche
It surprises me that more tile guys don't incorporate a few drywall knives into their program. Try using a 5 inch drywall knife to apply that mortar
It’s cuz that’s a waste of time altogether
I carry a 4" knife with me, mostly to help get mortar behind toilet flanges and under cabinet toe kicks and stuff.
@@peaceindarkness.darknessis3494 not really if you're going for quality over speed. I'd rather take my time and do a good job, keep my job looking clean for the homeowner, and for my own sake, less messy.
why have margin trowel way better can do more things
My 6" taping knife worked great for mortaring the inside corners of my cement board when I redid the bathroom.
Bullnose ceramic trims always does the trick
But look shit
Dont downplay the miter, you can get a flawless miter edge by mitering along the factory edge. Actually, it even looks better than using trim.
Exactly, there's even guides to miter the tile perfectly, without the chipping. Miter is arguably aesthetically superior to trim, although more difficult to execute.
these trims look cleaner to me
@@scottyee707 depends on tile person...can be done flawless...can be completely butchered
@@thatguy4234 Butchered or not I don't care for mitered tile edges. Too "Sprockets" for me. Tile trim with mitered corners is actually my preference though difficult to execute.
I'm sold! What a great idea for edging shower niches. But the only issue not discussed is how to buy Quadec. It's probably my fault but I went to a few different online vendors and it showed prices of around $8. For what you ask? It says that for $8 I get one inch. One inch of what? It couldn't be $8/inch because that would put the overall cost of a 16"x12" niche at about $450. So that couldn't be right. So what do I get for my $8? If anyone knows what I'm doing wrong here, let me know. I did order the one inch as advertised on Lowes so I'll have the answer in a couple of days which I'll share if I don't hear back from anyone...and believe me when I say that ALL the online vendors show exactly the same setup, $8 or so for one inch of something...
Thanks for reaching out! Our Customer Service Team will be best suited to help you. You can reach them at 1-800-472-4588 (USA) or 1-800-667-8746 (CAN). Have a great day!
Likely 8$ per corner ... that's what mine was.
Correct
The way he flips that's trowel, you know he means Buisness!
is it safe to assume you will finish off the bottom peice the same as the top?, without overlapping the bottom peice over the face tile you have created a flat horizontal seam exposed to massive water ,,whats to keep the water from entering shower between the metal and the bottom tile . ,,you will always have water sitting on that grout joint
Hi Bill. Yes, the bottom of the niche is fitted out with a profile the same method as shown at the top. The water will get in the grout joint, but the benefit of a sealed waterproof system is that the water will not damage the substrate behind the shower. This will allow the assembly to dry between uses.
Wish I would of seen this video before I did my niche with rondel. I inserted the trim behind the inside tile vice the wall surface.
It'd be nice if you could purchase the trim pieces pre-cut to the size of the niche.
Correct.
Correct.
You didn't show how to combine in that shelf. Do you run two long verticals passed it or do you need to frame out below and above the shelf? Does one have to precursor tiles to support that shelf?
Hi Theresa, would you be able to give our Product Support team a call to discuss your project in a bit more detail, they will be able to advise from there. 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks!
Need to show how to finish the Kerdie shelf please
Hi there! You can take a look at this video for a more detailed look at installing a niche. Hope this helps!
th-cam.com/video/TfXjPwiCY4U/w-d-xo.html
Informative stuff. I’ve never seen any videos that grout after applying the trim. How do you seal to prevent any water penetration into the back of the tile?
Hi Ralph, you can treat the trim like an extension of the tile. The entire tile installation would be completed prior to grouting. Any moisture that gets into the grout joints or into the thin-set under the edges of the tile will just evaporate after a little while. Hope this helps!
Hello , I see a gap between the niche and the wall , how is that sealed , thank you
Hi there! After installing the niche into the wall, we would use the KERDI-BAND to seal the seam between the wall and the niche. Here is an another video showing how to waterproof the niche: www.schluter.ca/schluter-ca/en_CA/video_kerdi-board/video/YIGFSVgAhpA/playlist/PLEFjeySFJM-Bj3ovDWn1AT2oG_6Wsp0ED Hope that helps!
Hello, Can I use the profile to support glass tile mesh mounted, above my kitchen window? o Do I need to add some other support until the mortar dry to avoid the profile and the tiles fall? Thanks
Hi there! Mind contacting our customer support team for this question?
US 800-472-4588
US 800-667-8746
In your demonstration here, has the tile already been installed on the inside of the niche? Thanks for the detailed step-by-step video.
Hi there!
Yes, we installed the tile inside of the niche first. This makes it easier to install the edge of the profile flush to the edge of the inside tile without having to build-up the thin-set under the inside tile.
Hope this helps!
Do they rust? I need something for the transition of the tile from my shower to my bathroom walls.
Hi Kat, thanks for the question! No they do not rust, you can call our Customer Support team to ensure you are picking an appropriate finish for your application. Please give them a call at US: 888-472-4588, thanks!
Aluminum does not rust, but it can corrode if the paint is scratched.
I set my schluter edging profile on the inside of the niche with miter cuts as I'm setting rile. Then, fab the niche with wood and then coated in waterproofing. not sure why you'd make it harder and doesn't look good setting it on the face, imo
Thank you for pointing that out I will be doing my niche in the next week or so.
@@Justforfun-ek7et ser the inside of niche after the face of wall is dried. use the edges of the niche as a guide when cutting around niche. layout and niche placement is important. You got this 👍 @wishbonecustomtile
That was only side and top what about the center part of niche
Hi there! We have another video that shows how to create and finish a niche shelf. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/697IqAYmpnk/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps!
thanks guys
I have a quick question on my first time ever niche. Do I silicone the inside corners or grout them? Thx so much!☺
Hi jeff! Good question. Grout will be fine in the KERDI-BOARD niche. You can look at this video for examples: th-cam.com/video/TfXjPwiCY4U/w-d-xo.html
Bevel, it's a 45° BEVEL. Also, why not MITER the corners of the profile strips? That would look better than the silly inside corners...
Because you’ll have sharp corners in your shower
buen material para trabajar muy facil de istalar
How do you install the shelf that comes with the niche? Is it screwed in or is the tiles of the bottom shelf holding it up?
HI there ! When using the prefabricated shelf, determine the desired height of the shelf and mark with a level line. Set tile up to that line on the back and sides of the niche. Butter the sides and back of the shelf with Schluter-SET, Schluter-ALL-SET, Schluter-FAST-SET, or unmodified thin-set mortar and solidly embed it in the niche, resting on the previously installed tile. The shelf may be raised at the back to create a slope, or the tile may be set on a slope, to prevent water from pooling in the finished application. You can find more information on this page of our website: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Building-Panels/KERDI-BOARD-Panels/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-BOARD-SN/p/KERDI_BOARD-SN?facets=false
Thank you for this !
wait, i thought the legs went under the niche wall’s tile, not the shower wall’s tile, so i guess it can work both ways? is it purely installer preference? or are there advantages to one way over the other? And if so, what are those pros and cons?
Hi Chris! Yes, the profile anchoring legs may be placed inside or outside of the niche, based on the desired look and preference. Installing the anchoring legs on the inside of the niche allows for more adjustment with the profiles and wall tile to ensure everything is aligned properly. Installation of anchoring legs on the outside will allow you to hide things like cut tile edges or install the wall tile and profile and come back to tile the niche at a later time or not have to miter a profile such as Schluter®-JOLLY. The choice may also depend on which profile is selected and the desired look.
this isnt a tips and tricks video, this is an advertisement. you didn't show how you cut the rondec and you only applied one piece. I wanted to see how you lined up the corners, but you'd have to complete the niche to show that.
Thanks for the feedback Tyson. We definitely will pass that along to our team.
@@schlutersystems1 No you wont. But claiming tips and tricks to get people to click on your advertisements leaves a bad taste in my mouth too. Not enough to run a permanent
boycott on Schluter, but its equivalent to a door to door schluter salesman showing up with obvious chicken grease all over his face.
@@gantz4u here's a tip..... you should hire a pro
@@adeebihabibi No. Im fine thanks. My tile looks great. Pro's do not just descend from heaven to do your tile.your husband must love you being without skill and just racking up credit card debt. Credit. Because financial wealth and skills usually correspond. Your comment is like "I dont know how to do tile" like you just dabbed on me.
Heres what I got: Cement board on the walls. taped and floated and latex water proofing. Then tile with 2 miter jointed custom nitches. Latex water proofing on the sublfoor then rock board. more latex waterproofing on that, then a tile job I layed out using computer software to get a more perfect layout. I can go anywhere and look at "pro" work and laugh at it and point out how its inferior and where they went wrong. My install is bullet proof and right. Im not coming to do your tile because Im rich and dislike most people. So enjoy your "stress free pro" install.
@@gantz4u the way you type just wreaks of ego and insecurity…
The Greeks and the Romans have been doing tile for centuries without Schluter crap.
And much of it can still be found, intact, 2000yrs later !
Now when the tile goes on the wall it has to much material behind it to be flush with the trim
Just make sure to select the proper size profile according to the tile thickness and format-- you should be good!
So, If I'm installing 1/2" ceramic tile, I have to get 1/2" trim? Does the trim account for the thinset? Won't the tile be higher then the trim with thinset? Please help and explain. Thanks
@@rjvillanueva64 yes, you are correct, get another trim size that is the next higher size to accommodate your mortar. The people at the tile store I should help you with this question
@@rjvillanueva64 You have the right idea. Keep in mind that a tile labeled as a half inch nominal size isn't exactly a half inch, remember that the anchor leg has a certain thickness, remember that the schluter profiles can be installed with the anchor leg in either orientation, etc.
It's hard to see but, is the Keridi board flush or recessed with the edge of the inside niche wall? What forms the seal on that edge? Is it just grout between the inside niche tile and the Rondec that is the seal??
Hi there accidentalvoyeur! The Kerdi-Board meets the "flange" of the niche and is flush. Then the waterproofing seal is created by using Kerdi-Band over the abutting edges.
Great video. How do you finish the face of the schluter shelf ? It seems you have face unfinished . Thanks
Thank you Chuck! The shelf seen on this video is actually a glass shelf with a beveled and finished front edge. Our Schluter SHELF is available now that would not require any finishing edges. You can see the options here: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Shower-System/Accessories/Shelves/Schluter%C2%AE-SHELF-N/p/SHELF_N
What exactly are the names of the schluter products used in this video?
Hi hkgeldean! We used a bunch of different products throughout this video. Here's the list: The solid backing is our KERDI-BOARD, and we installed a KERDI-SHOWER-SN Shower niche with our KERDI-BAND waterproofing the seam between the niche and the KERDI-BOARD on the wall. The KERDI-BOARD shelf in the niche comes in larger sizes. The glass shelf in the niche is made from a purchased piece of cut glass and is installed using our DECO-SG profiles. The profiles we show you that finish around the niche are: we used RONDEC for the demonstration that Aaron holds in his hand. It's the round finishing profile. We used QUADEC on the main demonstration where they actually installed part of the profile. Both RONDEC and QUADEC have corners pieces available. Towards the end of the video, Andy shows some Sample pieces of other profiles and DIADEC is shown in his hand there. I hope this helps to decipher the products used within the video. Thanks for checking out our channel. :)
Well it was neat how you did that but you didn't explain was a tile already in the niche because I see I didn't see you put a band of Charity around it to waterproof the niche did you already have tile inside the niche you never said can we explain things better
Cuz I really like the product and I'm learning it but on some of your videos like this one you didn't save you already had the time it looked like there was a gap
Hi Christopher! We completed the waterproofing with the KERDI membrane and then when we begun our demonstration we did already have a tile installed in the back of the niche. This is a shorter tip and trick video on how to finish our KERDI-BOARD-SN shower niches using profiles, but you can check out these complete installation videos that may be helpful.This video shows a detailed step by step installation of our shower niche and how to waterproof it: th-cam.com/video/YIGFSVgAhpA/w-d-xo.html
For FULL details on tiling a shower niche with our profiles please check out this video. It will help to explain the entire process:th-cam.com/video/TfXjPwiCY4U/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps!
Can top cement be used on KERDI? ...instead of tile.
Hi there! No, the KERDI membrane is designed for use with tiles.
Its nice to add these corners instead of miters, but 2 - 12"x20" niches with stock shelves would require 16 pcs at over 12 dollars each is over $200.00, not good!
Hi Tom, in this case with the 16 corners, it can get a bit pricier, especially if using our solid aluminum corners. One cost-saving option could be mitering the corners instead.
What should I tell the Client about cleaning their shower that has Rondec profiles installed. They are using Polished Chrome in the Master Bath and Brushed Nickel in the other 2 baths. Also any tips on grouting without scratching the profiles? I was going yo tape it all off.
Hi Johnette, Rondec can be cleaned using neutral cleaning agents and tools, nothing abrasive. Your client should avoid the use of strong acids (e.g. hydrochloric or hydrofluoric) and base/alkaline cleaners (e.g. bleach, ammonia, chlorides). It shouldn't be necessary to tape the profile off when grouting. We recommend working with materials and tools that will not scratch or damage sensitive surfaces. It is also very important to remove thin-set or grout from the surface immediately, especially for aluminum profiles.
Hope this helps, please feel free to reach out to our Product Support team if you'd like to discuss your project in more detail! 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks 🍊
what's the diffference between Jolly and Finec? Can you use both for niche?
Finec is much more... erm... fine 😉 😄. It has a very slim reveal surface. Here are links to both for more info.
Finec: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Profiles/For-Walls/Edging-%26-Outside-Wall-Corners/Schluter%C2%AE-FINEC/p/FINEC
Jolly: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Profiles/For-Walls/Edging-%26-Outside-Wall-Corners/Schluter%C2%AE-JOLLY/p/JOLLY
Most excellent
🙂
Newbie question here. Nobody seems to address the actual positioning of the tiles in relation to the wall faces and edges. Is the front edge of that inside tile flush with the face of the wall (the wall he put the thinset on), or is it set back from that wall face to allow a grout joint?
Hi John, since most of our aluminum and PVC wall profiles have an integrated grout spacer, you can cut the tile flush with the wall or leave it set back a little, depending on your grout joint size preference. Although the QUADEC does come with an integrated grout spacer on both sides, we decided to set the tile back just a little (maybe 1/16" or so) in this case to provide a slightly larger joint. The stainless steel profiles do not have an integrated grout joint, so you would always keep the tile back a little from the edge with those to allow for that grout space. Hope that helps, please give our Product Support team a call if you'd like to discuss your project in detail! 800-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada). Thanks 😊
@@schlutersystems1 Many thanks for your swift reply. I understand what you are saying; things are becoming clearer. As a newbie, about to embark on his first major tile job, I want to think of all the detail I can before I start. Thanks again.
Anytime! Best of luck!
You forgot to mention how much of the sluret metal you need to leave for the piece of tile that goes inside the sides of the nitch which is a very important point, because if you install the sluret metal flush with the edge of the cement board, it's going to look terrible,.so you need to leave it over the edge of cement board at least the width of tile you're installing “plus" 1/8 of an inch for thinset in order to make it flush with the slureth metal.
i think i know what you're trying to say, but exactly what does "slureth" mean
@@ZunarXJ59 the slureth metal it's the metallic finish.
They way they did it and also the way I do it, is to install the tile inside the niche first flush with the wall. Then you set your trim on the outside around the niche. Now Just line it up flush with the tile inside the niche
they used kerdi board not cement board, not that that changes how to use profiles. I don't use hardie or durroc anymore, I love the kerdiboard
Thanks for your trust in our products!
How do you seal the joint between the trim and the inside niche tile, grout? Thx
Hey there! Correct. The niche itself is waterproof and then the KERDI overlaps the flange by 2", so the junction is waterproof there as well. All you would then use between the profile and the tiles is grout. No need to "seal" anything in that surface junction, as it is already "sealed" below.
@@schlutersystems1 Also I noticed you installed the trim flush with the inside of the niche. Is that just for demo purposes because the tile inside the niche should be covered by the trim also, correct? I'm a newbie as you have guessed!
“Correct...”
Was going to be my exact comment.
Do you concur?🧐
Do you start the wall tile around the niche or do you start at the bottom as if doing a wall with no niche?
Hi there, it depends. You have options based on your installation needs. There isn't necessarily a one size fits all approach. You could start from the floor, if it's flat. You can start from the niche or the floor, if you will have cut tiles between them. You could also start from the floor prior to cutting out for the niche to make sure you can use a whole tile up to the niche profile. Evaluate your installation parameters and choose the best option for your assembly based on that. Hope that helps.
What did you use to cut that miter? A chainsaw? I thought these guys had more skill than that. Anytime you cut a miter cut the tile square first then cut the miter leaving about a 16th of an inch of the original square cut remaining. This way you get a perfect miter cut every time. It' so easy to do.
The trim they installed in this video is what I am looking for along with the match edge piece and corners but Rona, Lowes and Home Depot in Canada do not carry these 3. The edging I can get but not the matching pieces.
Hi Peter,
Maybe we can help! The profile in this video is called Rondec. They should be available at one of our authorized Schluter dealers. You can find your nearest, here: www.schluter.ca/schluter-ca/en_CA/store-finder
Please don't hesitate to get in touch with us if you need further help, you can reach our customer support specialists at: 800-667-8746
awesome!
so this goes first, then the tile correct?
Yes, that's right.
You would usually tile right away. But you can wait, it you prefer, as long as your thin-set over the anchoring leg is smoothed out, so you don't have any bumps getting in the way of the tile install later on.
All of your videos are set up on a set build by y’all with time taken to make them go as easy as possible on the demonstration, I’ve used the schluter product for years now and have done nothing but make less money ever since
If you've done that for years at your own profit loss, not sure which direction the blame finger should be pointed.
Moonpie Spotlight look at you being a smart ass
Bottom line, their videos are based on perfect conditions, hence the topic of my initial comment. Not my fault their representation of their product is not exactly accurate in the real world
Josh Hoover just because you dont have the right tecnik to instal it those guy are bouffon there not resl instaler🤘
Thats the skill of being a professional tile setter, prepping the job to make your install go easy, I will tear out a whole wall if I have to, to get level and plumb for my jobs.
Nice
If installing glass mosaic inside the niche, do I still use unmodified thinset even though glass is usually in modified thinset?
Hi Roberto,
It's important to check with the glass manufacturer for suggested setting materials. Please give our team a call for details, they can be reached at: 800-472-4588.
Thank you!
The corners are they called inside or outside corners?
We have both inside and outside corners available! Rondec is one of our most robust line of profiles and has tons of options. You can check them out on our website, or give our Support Team a call should you have any more questions. www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Profiles/For-Walls/Edging-%26-Outside-Wall-Corners/Schluter%C2%AE-RONDEC/p/RONDEC
Is it acceptable to set the profile as you have here and then come back and set the tile later after the thin set has hardened? I have a floor to ceiling profile to install and I am concerned about the open time of the thin set if I attempt to install the profile and the tile concurrently.
Hi Lucas, it is recommended to set the profile and adjacent tile at the same time to allow for the best all around installation of the tile and profile. When they are installed together this give the best opportunity to make any adjustments to the profile. If the profile is set prior to tile, care would need to be taken to ensure the profile is properly embedded and plumb so the tile installation is not impacted negatively. Hope this helps!
@@schlutersystems1 Thank you for your reply. In my application, I am setting an 8ft profile to finish the edge of a shower surround. The field is 3x6 marble tile. With only a 20 minute open time for All-Set, it just doesn't seem possible to tile the whole surround from floor to ceiling in that period of time. I think I'll have no choice but to set the profile first, taking care that it is plumb and avoiding excess mortar buildup.
Hi Lucas, can you give us a call? Our Support Team would be a great place to touch base with before you start your project. 888-472-4588 (US) or 800-667-8746 (Canada).
Lucas Middleton try setting the tile up the wall and installing the trim second, I’ve done that several times because of the same problem you’re expressing. When you get ready to install the trim, just use a grout bag or some other old bag with the corner cut off to use as a semi caulk gun to fill the edges of the tile before you slide the trim in. Have some shims around and make sure to clean off the outer inch of tile before the install to make sure your trim will set flush against your wall tile..ps. Use the thinset you’re using in the bag for the install of the trim
@@Rustyshackleford752 Thanks a lot for the suggestion. I hadn't thought of that and think it might work in my application.
You need to redo this video with a more detailed demo. This is just a series of hints that leave people trying to figure it all out while getting themselves into trouble with disappointing and unfixable results. I'm a retired shop teacher and I see so many disasters ahead because of a lack of anticipation of what the students will struggle with.
Our Product Support team is available for further support if needed, or we can set you up with your local Schluter rep if you'd like to discuss a particular project in more detail. Let us know if we can help!
the real question is: is it niche or niche?
When u put the tile on first did u leave it short of the outside to accommodate a grout line between the outside profile
Good question! Yes, we actually did leave a little space at the edge of the tile, even though the QUADEC in aluminum has an integrated joint spacer already, so we would have been okay without any extra here. We suggest a 1/16”-1/18” grout joint between the tile and the profile, so in this case it was closer to 1/8”. Remember that you for sure need to plan in your grout space for stainless steel because it does not have the integrated grout spacer. Hope this helps!
@@schlutersystems1 not sure we are on same page I understand the inside yes has a joint space but what I’m talking about, I guess would actually be the bottom of the profile where it flushes out to the outside tile
The QUADEC in aluminum and PVC has the grout spacer on both sides, but the stainless doesn't on either. So you'll need to keep the tile back for stainless steel installations or if you would like the heaver grout joint with the PVC or aluminum, you can do the same. You are also welcome to contact our Product Support team if you have further questions!
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@@schlutersystems1 thank you now that helped
🙂
I get they are trying to sell a product, but why not just set tile on the inside walls of the niche to be flush with the surface first, then set the outer wall tile so overlaps the edge? I think that doing this would be much cleaner and easier and doesn't require overpriced unnecessary edging. Also, who the hell did your miters, they should be fired.
Nice profile ... but you used the worst mitered example in the universe :D
Just what Schulter wants every shower to have unsightly Metal edge trims.
Almost never use it, I feel it really cheapens the overall appearance
Yeah, because the majority of tile installers in the real world suck and do half ass jobs, if they even show up. This of course doesn't apply to you TH-cam commenting installers because you are all the best in the world. At any rate, I Would rather have a clean metal trim than some hack job trying to butt tiles together. I work in the industry, so quite familiar with the "tile professionals".
@@aijem423 Amen to that. You hit the nail on the head. We had our previous shower done it Schluter trim and are now completing our new walk in shower in our second home with Schluter trim. Makes it look very nice instead of the craptastic job that most TH-cam professionals do.
You guys are doing it backwards The profile installation goes inside the niche. You have to build the walls first And then the niche. The main reason about doing the walls first is because you have to plumb all your walls first. Unless if you don’t care
So the anchoring legs go under the tile on the inside of the niche rather than downward against the shower wall, right?
So as you lay or install the tile on say the flat part of the niche, go ahead and place the Quadec or Rondec piece under the tile, right?
Lol at this guy telling the manufacturers how to install their own equipment. If you watched the other videos you would know that it can be installed either way, and that this particular demonstration is an intentional oversimplification.
Every time he says “correct,” take a drink.
Can use a ditra over pressure treated plywood ?
Hi there. No, pressure treated plywood wood not be an approved substrate for DITRA. You can check out our Handbook here for approved methods: sccpublic.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/sys-master/images/hc5/h41/8949342732318/DITRA%20Installation%20Handbook.pdf
If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to give our Support Team a call: 888-472-4588
nothing sticks to pt plywood
Where do you buy these??
Hi Dante, find a dealer near you using our Dealer Locator here: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/store-finder
How do you cut the metal pieces?
Hi there PPPrincess Power, you might find this video helpful: th-cam.com/video/FUdLWiIqTWY/w-d-xo.html
I believe a wet tile saw will also cut these like butter
hacksaw with angle block or wet saw very slow
What would be the best one for a subway tile that's beveled in your opinion?
Hi there! Any tile would work as long as it is as tall as the thickest part of the tile. :)
Do you recommend a possible 45 degree angle at each edge as a possible option vs. the finisher insert?
Yes, you can also miter the edges. :
Those called bevels not miters btw
@@andriyshapovalov8886 they were saying yes, you can do a bevel cut. You can also do a miter cut
@@andriyshapovalov8886 I think it could be called a bevel or a miter depending on if the profile was being set with the anchor leg on the wall vs inside the niche.
Compas tan weyessss 🤣
Well I got to the job ready to build my niche. Problem is Arizona tile doesn't know what they're selling or what works with your product.
The corners they gave me didn't work I had to miter all of it. 8 miters and every cut the saw tried to rip it out of my hand. Don't tell me to use more teeth. These are meant for wood. But what do I do? Lose another half day trying to explain what Arizona should already know?? Then of course I have to wait a week or get stuck with 60 bucks worth of freight.
None of these miracle solutions are worth it. I could have bullnosed everything and been done. There is no way I won't have to back cut my tile tomorrow because unless you're walls are finish carpentry flat this stuff is not going to lay correct. Sticking two pieces to a wall in the middle of nothing with nothing against it means nothing. It's just a pitch.
How did it go?
Arizona tile suks
Why do I wanna roundhouse the guy on the right so bad?
Salesman i dislike them all
Its cause hes always interrupting
Niche
Como puedo comentar 1 termostato
Luis c Llumitasig que necesitas??
Uhmm no thats over in the other place
They remind me of Walter white and Jesse pink man.
Things you
part number?
Here is a link to our Niche product page on our website... just go down the page and chose the size you want (under Height) and then each of the 4 part numbers will be displayed under the image.
www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Building-Panels/KERDI-BOARD-Panels/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-BOARD-SN/p/KERDI_BOARD-SN?facets=false
@@schlutersystems1 thank you
Wow someone that says niche right. Most on TH-cam call it a nitch. Wth is a nitch. Lol
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Isn’t it pronounced “nitch”?
Both pronunciations are correct! 🙂
someone has to come up with a prefab niche in a few different sizes..this niche business stinks big time....a big waste of time and money.. and I think pretty much a bad idea in general
Hi den d. We offer several different sizes of pre-fabricated niches. Check them out here: www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Building-Panels/KERDI-BOARD-Panels/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-BOARD-SN/p/KERDI_BOARD-SN
I prefer installing corner shelves made out of the customers granite or quartz instead of the niches. So much faster and looks better as well. These niches don't hold a lot once tiled and complete. Sure they look nice but not worth what they cost and the time they take to install and time lost waiting for it all to dry so you can lay up around it.
That's an option too!
They have some that are made of metal, they're great!
I agree so much. They take a huge amount of time to do.
the only trouble is, you have to take a second mortgage out to do the job.
JACOB TAYLOR def not... on average my remodels are around $2500-$3500
@@Makeitwithmanny en que estado cobra ese$ por remodelar un baño y que abarca.
@@josevazquez2548 eso fue hace un año cuando puse eso. Ahorita andamos cobrando por una bañera $3500-4500
just so you know rondec sucks. please trust me. ive tiled 30 showers and have used the system and you cant cut or fit the metal properly
If you've done 30 showers then you can afford a chop saw with a nonferrous metal blade. Use the schlueter corners. If you can measure accurately...no problem.
I've done hundreds, as have many of us, and if you can't figure out how to cut and fit the pieces then tiling is not for you.
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Aaron was great. Other guy, you weren’t required.
Totally wrong installation
In what way specifically?
All read spend 300$ for that shit prefab niche before figure out the tile layout i charge same price to built n customise the niche the way client wont glass shelf stupide idea
So what happens if your wall sucks that you’re laying on, schluter doesn’t cover real world problems like a real installer would face on a daily basis
Prep your job BEFORE the tile setting even starts.
Ugly crap, give me the 45 degree corners all-day
Ugly miter
Your over selling your product
*you're lol
Correct