OMG they move sooo fast on Saturn. I've owned the ps1 version since 2001 and always thought the gameplay was so fast, until I see this Sega version.....
Tony Horo Antônio , vc acha que Budokai 3 é alguma coisa perto do dragonbal legends , esse dragonbal é reconhecido por muitos como o maior jogo dá franquia e olha que ele é de ps1 e Sega Saturn , mas ele foi o dragonbal que mas passou a sensação do anime , principalmente o ki dos personagem na hora de encher idêntico ao do anime
Saturn has one massive advantage that the PS1 doesn't here: it can render the ground using a background layer, almost identically to the Mode 7 3D ground effect in SNES games like F-Zero. The ground is practically free, so the Saturn VDP1 is barely drawing anything. A few rocks and trees, a few sprites for the characters. PS1 has to tile a bunch of polygons to make the ground (and possibly the background, but I dunno about that). It's actually drawing a fair bit each frame. Saturn version does some weirdness with the draw distance though, it should be able to draw further out. It's probably because they aren't scaling the far background like on the PS1 version (and the ground is being drawn by the background chip, so it has to split between where the ground and background are on screen, and ends up just cutting the draw distance there), but that's strictly guesswork. That framerate gap is wild, and if the PS1 version drew less ground, it'd probably be able to keep up, there isn't that much drawing related other than that to tax the machine like that unless it's just a poor port, but it doesn't look like one.
The PS1 version slows down drastically when it’s more than 1v1. Barely holding 25fps. Your research is why the Saturn version holds strong even in full 3v3
null1023 haha PSX weaker hardware can't handle properly a 2 CPU's Sega Saturn 2D/3D game, nothing new here. If you port games like Sonic R, Radiant Silvergun or Panzer Dragoon Saga to the PlayStation, it couldn't work at more than 3 fps haha.
Hit the nail on the head. Two year old reply here but you're spot on. The Saturn's VDP1, which is responsible for 3D polygons and sprites, has only to draw a few items here and there. The ground and background is being handled by VDP2. The Playstation has to even draw the background too, which just eats into the fillrate, though not as much as the ground.
Esse é o melhor jogo da franquia Dragon Ball; lembro que eu zerava, passava dois dias sem jogar, e jogava tudo de novo. Naquela época, era o unico jogo que você sentia-se no universo Dragon Ball - Z.
Yep definately, the Sega Saturn won this round clearly although animation wise via the show intro movies, it does look alittle rougher around the corners though. The Saturn''s superior 2D processing is evident here with the tree, speed, higher sound, frenetic pace and combo count are evident here. Good to see the Saturn prove itself and still one of the most unique DBZ games around even till now! Getting myself the PS1 port because it's easier to find, just happy to own this game regardless!
The Saturn version was certainly the best! Playstation version did move a bit slower and it had the attacks in the wrong order. Example: The Big Bang Attack wasn't used on Namek, but in the Playstation version Vegita has it already. This was one of the greatest DBZ games. Really looking forward to the new Dragon Ball Fighters Z game now.
The Saturn version looks and sounds better, but the controls are severely inferior. There is a delay to every button input, which sucks because if it weren't for that, it would definitely be the better version.
The Saturn can't really do transparency properly, and this is an issue pretty much every Saturn game other than Burning Rangers has (which draws to a background layer and blends that on top of everything). They really should have made the auras on Saturn in mind with that limitation, they really do look way better on PS1.
I think the auras look better on the saturn tbh, it's not just a sprite hanging behind the character, except your ignoring the glitchy fighting of the psx version it's even missing a proper vanashing animation for the counters, that's just unforgivable.
Well, Saturn transparency is very odd. For example, the floating ideya on NiGHTS are transparent over 3D objects but opaque over the background, much like the homing lasers on Panzer Dragoon. The opposite happens with Guardian Heroes, where Nicole's transparent dress "eats" all polygons behind it, leaving a transparent view of the background layer. The ground effects in DBZ are transparent, but eat up the shadow effect (which makes sense, really). Meshes were obviously a way to get round this issue, however they were noticeable at the Saturn's standard resolution (VF2's shadows are meshes but a much higher resolution) which is only partially taken care of by RF/composite which have a less sharp image. Meshes have their own problems as well; it's a free effect used by setting a flag, however the meshed pixels are the same between layers so meshes overlapping meshes will result in the background mesh being eaten (a good time to set one of those to transparent!). Burning Rangers is an obvious exception as you pointed out; its transparent polygons get written to the background frame buffer (albeit at half resolution, and resized, to reduce data), meaning that you can still have a transparent GUI on top. However, Burning Rangers, though very playable, suffers from a sub-25 frame rate. The Saturn really is struggling here. In titles where lots of transparencies would be needed for water effects, the Saturn should theoretically have a leg-up over the PlayStation - VDP2 can do it in its sleep (though not generally multi-layered transparencies - BR hacks round this), it doesn't cost any polygons, and the draw range is practically unlimited.
*+Stephan Dolby* Keio Flying Squadron 2 actually has real transparencies and runs at 60fps. It's truly a technical marvel on the Saturn and it's a sad shame Nocturne in the Moonlight bombed as badly as it did, given that other game existed a few years prior. Truly shameful and reminds you that they did an awful job.
Tu acha boa a jogabilidade no Saturn? Apesar dos gráficos e áudio serem melhores no Saturn (além do jogo rodar a 60 FPS) achei muito complicado de jogar. O ki do personagem descarrega rápido
I have both, I can tell you it runs a lot better in the PS especially gameplay wise. On the Saturn it doesn't lock on to the guy you're fighting often missing hits or flying off to nowhere where as this isn't an issue on the ps version.
Don't think it's fanboyism. Personally, I notice the Saturn's superior frame rate (and that's a huge plus). But the PS version has superior detail w/ respect to the charge effects. The Saturn version, as is clear to everyone looking, is very off. Grainy. Transparent. Whereas, the PS version, despite the lower frame rate, produces imagery closer to the anime source material. For me, that's the kicker. PS wins by a mile.
Does no one see that the ps1 doesn't even have the trees ? Or that the frame rate blows ? I had a ps1 I didnt even know the game existed for the Saturn, I feel cheated !
La versión de Saturn es rapidísima, tiene más animaciones, tiene árboles, sombras con punto de luz, nubes, una mejor perspectiva, la jugabilidad es mucho mejor y los efectos como por ejemplo la henkidama son como los del animé y no un panal de abejas...
Also when you hold the power-up button all characters get the clear crisp SSJ aura sound effect purely ripped from the anime on Saturn version. PS1 version another muffled hashed up aura sound effect
hmm. Not really 3d. The saturn used quads, but the ps1 used triangles, and while on paper the saturn could do more polygons over all, the triangles were more efficient. It's more an issue of the saturn not being developed with 3d in mind until the last moment and sonys 3d functions were better optimized. But lets talk about this dbz game here. Saturn has the better graphics for the most part. 99% of the stuff displayed was better.
PS1 had 1 edge.. Transparency.. Other than that.. Sega Saturn version for the responsive controls and Faster gameplay being a far superior 2-D machine.... I had both games imported before and them shits costed a grip.. I sold the PS1 version to Cop the Saturn version
Nice, man! I wish I had been so knowledgeable about the import scene back then. It seemed like the only place to get imports was Funcoland, and I didn't have one nearby. Loved the Saturn, but missed out on some great games because of that.
michaeloffgrid Oh man.... Funcoland lol.. Here in New York... I had 2 spots that keep a large import selection... I don't ever remember buying a America Version of anything. That extra 10 was always worth it. It was like I had a "Sega Geo" or a "Neo Saturn" lmao...
Daguza Mishima Stop it... Both played and did the same extra shit. PSX edge was transparency.. that's it. Saturn had the overall edge in gameplay speed, responsiveness.
SDS Overfiend A real dragon ball fan would prefer the one that looks like the show. No one really gives a crap about specs. Not that the saturn version looks bad or anything. Although, those auras, when they're flying around in the saturn version do look bad to me. And as some have said, it's a bit too fast.
This video is a PERFECT go to for when you encounter PS fanboys who say the Saturn is lousy at or cant even do transparencies at all. The KI aura effect is some crazy good examples of what the Saturn could actually do!
Yeah, it was pretty beefy at 2D graphics but it did suffer with the transparencies. Doesn't matter though, it was equally good on both consoles. I technically prefer the speed of the PlayStation version though (and this comes from a sega fan) because it feels closer to the anime in terms of speed. They're just going far too fast on the saturn, which is awesome, but makes the combo feel like it's ending quicker, taking away from the impact. I love how dynamic the camera is with it's angles on the saturn version, but there's also a lot of unneeded stuff in the graphics too, such as all of those trees lying around on empty fields, but the foreground clouds are nice in the sky. The aura while charging is very awesome in terms of frames as well. The framerate was also slightly higher than the PlayStation version, showing what the eight processors were capable of. It's still amazing to see how the PlayStation held up though, seeing as it only has ONE processor.
The unfortunate irony of your post is that those auras aren't even transparent (well, technically what you mean is translucent). They're just alternating between opaque and no visible pixels. You can see this on some other higher resolution videos of the Saturn version.
No Saturn podemos ver que a jogabilidade é mais fluída e temos mais elementos na tela. Mas na minha opinião, a aura e os poderes parecem melhores no PS1
Elementos positivos no saturn: mais detalhes,árvores e nuvens, também tem algumas magias boas como o masenko e o makankosappo,mas o kiezan do kurilin esta bem zuado, assim como a aura de ki deles está bem artificial , o kiezan do kurilin está semelhantemente parecido. Psone: tem a aura mais bonita, a aura do Ki o kiezan também mais bem elaborado. Em materia de framerate não sei dizer... mas acho que ambas tem pontos positivos e negativos.
So, Saturn has Kaioh-sama 's voice actor voice telling the story before each stage, better fps during the battles, sound is louder and clearer , and backgrounds have more elements ... while psx version has better tranparency effects. Interesting.
This was my favorite Dragon Ball game up until DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on the Wii. Both versions are good but gameplay wise it’s better on the PS and I own both versions. What both versions are missing are having Chiaotzu, Yamcha and Tien as characters....
I always liked the super long fights just because it's different from most games and more like the anime. I can see why it would turn some people off though and that may also be why it never got a released outside of Japan.
I've had this game for psOne for god knows how long. (At least 17 years) and I love to this very day. This is the first time I've seen it on Saturn. It runs waaaay better on Saturn.
I'm confuse here. I had thought the ps1 version you can't switch characters on the fly????? Are you playing versus mode? I remember it was talked about back then.
\\\\\\What a beast VDP2 is. Extremely advanced for its time.. It's doing 3D poly infinite planes with high res texures and perspective correct ones at that along with Sky box and rotation and Transparent moving clouds.
Em relação a games 2D, sempre curti as versões de Segasatan. Esse não é diferente... vou no console da Sega (Que me parece mais facil para dar as golpes/magias).
@@wonder-games3579 Nah, not really. It didn't really last long anywhere. They was selling the Sega Dreamcast like hotcakes down in Japan & down in the U.S. it just didn't really last as long due to fact because of the PS2. Soon sony brought out the PlayStation 2 they kicked the Dreamcast straight back to the shelfs & closed them down and had Sega turn into a hardware company. I remember that joint. Even this TV station G4TV was trending about it back 2000 to 2001. it was because the PlayStation 2 had better graphics, better exclusive platforms, & It was the first Console that could ever play Music, Movies, and Games as an all in one as a homing game console. Even the voice acting on PS2 games where actually well done. Also I think that's probably why no Dragon Ball Z games didn't make it to the Sega Dreamcast. The Sega Dreamcast has been rushed, The voice acting was off, and the facial expressions wasn't no good.
@@theamazingspiderman4911 That's what I was wondering! The XBOX is the new Dreamcast, basically. Because Microsoft helped Sega with the Saturn and the Dreamcast. And as soon Sega decided to stay as a hardware company, that's when Microsoft decided to bring out the XBOX right after the Sega Dreamcast died
I like the speed the Saturn had but overall I liked how the PS1 assets looked better. For example the special beam canon and Gohan's power. It just looks closer to the anime
is the extra ram that help the saturn which the ps1 lacks the saturn can not do transparecies effect correctly in many games had some nasty dithering but the frames are there not cut like the ps1
Damn the Saturn version looks fast asf and I thought the ps1 version was fast already! This is still the only game that truly captured the feel and speed of a dbz fight
The PSX version has much better looking attacks.....the Saturn version is too fast, its kind of comedic, they reduced the speed on PSX and is much better as a result
Still though many games on the Saturn didn't use transparency, rather opting for dithering for those effects Probably something to do with the processors being dumb
Saturn version all the way, the playstation may be technically superior and was probably more impressive back when it first came out but the effects on the saturn version are not bad and it also runs, controls and plays better than the playstation version.
I have played both versions since I owned both the Saturn and the PS1 back in the day. My memories all this time were wrong. I thought all this time that the PS1 was better coz I played the game more there. Saturn is just superior in every aspect but I didn’t expect the audio to be better on that version!
This looks like a 1 to 1 tie to me. Saturn has closer backgrounds and trees, PS1 has further backgrounds and stone blocks instead. Really just comes down to which speed you prefer; hyper or ludicrous.
Now this is what I've suspected for quite some time.. Just because the PS1 is more efficient at drawing more triangles and verts in scene, can you see them? If you use The Saturn properly this is what happens on PS1. Games aren't wireframes views ( PS1 would win that ) and complex 3D graphics is not just pumping more polys. The Saturn can do more complex 3D graphics. Just imagine what would happen if it tried to run Panzer dragoon zeiw or Saga or Radient Sivergun ( shudders to think. Thunder force 5 looks way less complex and PS1 had major cuts in that so just imagine RS got ported. How bad would it be vs Saturn original? ) I knew PS1 couldn't handle VDP2 3D infinite poly planes and now I can see the results. The PS1 literally ate through its polygon engine peak performance to render it and there's still loads of cuts= No rotation background, low res ground with warping, no perspective correct textures, no trees, no moving clouds and the framerate still tanks hard.
I first got this game Summer of 1996 for Sega Saturn, and months later for the Playstation. In my opinion the Sega Saturn version is better, because characters have more finishers on the Sega Saturn, than on the Playstation version of Legends. The same goes for Ultimate Battle 22, the Playstation version is inferior to the Sega Saturn one.
PS1 user here, while back then I thought the sega was so much better because of the shadows, i see now that the sony had a better camera angle, larger 3d area and cleaner effects.
Versão Saturn melhor no geral, embora sem os efeitos de transparência. Esse joguinho é legal demais, pena que não importe qual personagem você use, o gameplay é sempre o mesmo. Tanto é que até os andróides possuíam a capacidade de expandir o KI, sendo que nunca fizeram isso no anime, pelo que me lembro... Dizem que no Saturn o jogo é bem mais difícil que no PS, a ponto de você ter que bolar estratégias pra conseguir vencer algumas lutas. Procede?
No it wasn't. Not with the delay in button input. Also, the Playstation version gives you way more space to move around when playing 1 player vs 1 player. In the Saturn version, 1 player vs 1 player gives you the same tiny playing field as 2+ vs 2+. It looks and sounds better, and that is it.
@@BallisticFaceGuy "it looks and sounds better, and that is it." That sounds like +1 for Saturn to me. Goku's Spirit Bomb alone was far more fun see on the Saturn rather than PS just for example. Although, I am talking comparison some 25yrs ago
@@palehorse720 I'd say if the game can't even handle basic input, that's too big of a detractor to even qualify as being better. Or even if it was a very small difference, that would maybe be enough to take the top spot. The controls are so delayed, though. I wish that they would re-release the game with the quick responsiveness and larger multiplayer play field from the PS and the graphics/sound from the Saturn version, because it would be the ultimate DBZ game in my opinion. Edit: I agree fully that the super moves LOOK way better on Saturn, but those are cutscenes, and the controls are too hampered in my opinion.
I am a much bigger fan of the Saturn but the PlayStation has much better lighting effects and when all the characters come out they have a power Aura and some electricity for some of them that the Saturn completely lacks but the game plan Saturn seems to be quicker and more efficient.
I only played the Ps1 version when I was a kid, and I love it, but now seeing the Sega Saturn version I think that maybe the Ps1 version could be much better.
There are pros and cons for both versions. I grew up playing the Playstation version. That was a blast. It was easy to perform the connect combos. I just tried the Sega Saturn version. I just might not be used to it, but it was way more difficult to perform the connect combos on the Saturn version. Another big difference i noticed was when performing the connect combos while having the aura. In the Saturn version, the character loses energy. In the Playstation version, the character maintains their energy while performing the connect combos with the aura. Either way, this game was and is still fun. This was a great video that showed many differences between the two versions. Thank you.
Clearly Sega Saturn had a better performance and capability, that’s why we can see clouds, a different particle from súper ki blast, etc. however by that time everyone wanted to play videos games more in 3D, so people would think sega was better. Nowadays we all know 3D graphics don’t match so well with DBZ, that’s why the new DBZ games have anime kind of graphic. So for us it’s better not to see 3D things like in sega was
Yup. Even though I'm a Playstation fan, Saturn wins. It has a better framerate, a better "Press Start" closing, and voicing goes better on Saturn. The sound effects go with that too.
saturn was a better machine in 2d perspective. Saturn was very much underrated. it did not get the chance it deserved. i have a region free saturn with 1080p scart hookup and ever so love my street fighter and marvel collections. there was only handful of ps games i care about. sega never knew how to handle the beast they used to make. rip saturn
Jason Hull technically (spec-wise), Saturn is also more powerful than PSX on 3D (Radiant Silvergun, PD II Zwei, PD Saga and Sonic R took advantage of the dual-cpu architecture of the Saturn and were superior to any PS1 3D game, with higher resolutions, more effects on screen, and engines designed to work with the Saturn hardware from the ground up).
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OMG they move sooo fast on Saturn. I've owned the ps1 version since 2001 and always thought the gameplay was so fast, until I see this Sega version.....
"Gotta go fast" indeed.
but with a graphical downgrade. Or maybe is the psx version the upgraded one?
@@EmiHnH definitely downgraded graphically on saturn.
@@RawDawg903 I wouldn't be sure about that. See the details in the field, there are no trees in the PS1 version.
@@osuperjames its called trade off, for better detail you get less objects.....
Sega was such an underrated company! I had the psx version of this game. Didn’t know the Saturn version was damn clean.
Same.
Sega wasn't an underrated company back in the day they just made some bad decisions
@@travismcdowell8352 Saturn was definitely underrated
Eu considero esse Dragon Ball o melhor já lançado. Ele é o único que passa realmente a sensação das lutas como é no anime.
Aparentemente você desconhece Budokai Tenkaichi 2 e 3.
Nem esses dois chegam perto do mesmo feeling que esse jogo passava.
Tony Horo Antônio , vc acha que Budokai 3 é alguma coisa perto do dragonbal legends , esse dragonbal é reconhecido por muitos como o maior jogo dá franquia e olha que ele é de ps1 e Sega Saturn , mas ele foi o dragonbal que mas passou a sensação do anime , principalmente o ki dos personagem na hora de encher idêntico ao do anime
+Tony Horo quem são esses títulos perto desse clássico dos 32 bits? Para. .vc que eh leigo no assunto com toda certeza
O legends é o melhor dragon ball dos 32 bits.
Saturn has one massive advantage that the PS1 doesn't here: it can render the ground using a background layer, almost identically to the Mode 7 3D ground effect in SNES games like F-Zero. The ground is practically free, so the Saturn VDP1 is barely drawing anything. A few rocks and trees, a few sprites for the characters.
PS1 has to tile a bunch of polygons to make the ground (and possibly the background, but I dunno about that). It's actually drawing a fair bit each frame.
Saturn version does some weirdness with the draw distance though, it should be able to draw further out.
It's probably because they aren't scaling the far background like on the PS1 version (and the ground is being drawn by the background chip, so it has to split between where the ground and background are on screen, and ends up just cutting the draw distance there), but that's strictly guesswork.
That framerate gap is wild, and if the PS1 version drew less ground, it'd probably be able to keep up, there isn't that much drawing related other than that to tax the machine like that unless it's just a poor port, but it doesn't look like one.
Idk about any of that. All i know is that the ps version looks more like the show, and that's all that matters to me.
The PS1 version slows down drastically when it’s more than 1v1. Barely holding 25fps. Your research is why the Saturn version holds strong even in full 3v3
null1023 haha PSX weaker hardware can't handle properly a 2 CPU's Sega Saturn 2D/3D game, nothing new here. If you port games like Sonic R, Radiant Silvergun or Panzer Dragoon Saga to the PlayStation, it couldn't work at more than 3 fps haha.
Hit the nail on the head. Two year old reply here but you're spot on. The Saturn's VDP1, which is responsible for 3D polygons and sprites, has only to draw a few items here and there. The ground and background is being handled by VDP2. The Playstation has to even draw the background too, which just eats into the fillrate, though not as much as the ground.
The PlayStation is just doing circles for shadows and is not drawing the trees or translucent clouds.
Esse é o melhor jogo da franquia Dragon Ball; lembro que eu zerava, passava dois dias sem jogar, e jogava tudo de novo. Naquela época, era o unico jogo que você sentia-se no universo Dragon Ball - Z.
Yep definately, the Sega Saturn won this round clearly although animation wise via the show intro movies, it does look alittle rougher around the corners though. The Saturn''s superior 2D processing is evident here with the tree, speed, higher sound, frenetic pace and combo count are evident here. Good to see the Saturn prove itself and still one of the most unique DBZ games around even till now! Getting myself the PS1 port because it's easier to find, just happy to own this game regardless!
Yeah, the Saturn is superior at 2D.
The Saturn version was certainly the best! Playstation version did move a bit slower and it had the attacks in the wrong order. Example: The Big Bang Attack wasn't used on Namek, but in the Playstation version Vegita has it already. This was one of the greatest DBZ games. Really looking forward to the new Dragon Ball Fighters Z game now.
VEGETA KILL DODORIA USE BIG BANG ATTACK
Dans la version Saturne, il n’y a pas le big-bang
@@mingerik8668 VEGETA USE THE BIGBANG ATTACK WHEN HE BECOME A SUPER SAIYAJIN AND KILL JINZONINGEN NO 19
I'm jealous now. My PS1 version is the lame version. :/ That narration, man. I need that! :0
The Saturn version looks and sounds better, but the controls are severely inferior. There is a delay to every button input, which sucks because if it weren't for that, it would definitely be the better version.
Sega broke my heart, i loved that console so much
Saturn wins, more details (trees, clouds) and more texture it seems on the ground. Only thing i like more on ps1 it's a bit brighter.
Why isn't anyone talking about the auras? They look so much better on the PS.
The Saturn can't really do transparency properly, and this is an issue pretty much every Saturn game other than Burning Rangers has (which draws to a background layer and blends that on top of everything).
They really should have made the auras on Saturn in mind with that limitation, they really do look way better on PS1.
I think the auras look better on the saturn tbh, it's not just a sprite hanging behind the character, except your ignoring the glitchy fighting of the psx version it's even missing a proper vanashing animation for the counters, that's just unforgivable.
to my eyes they both suck and dont look like they do in the anime at all.
on the game Shin Butouden for Saturn they are perfect.
Well, Saturn transparency is very odd. For example, the floating ideya on NiGHTS are transparent over 3D objects but opaque over the background, much like the homing lasers on Panzer Dragoon. The opposite happens with Guardian Heroes, where Nicole's transparent dress "eats" all polygons behind it, leaving a transparent view of the background layer. The ground effects in DBZ are transparent, but eat up the shadow effect (which makes sense, really). Meshes were obviously a way to get round this issue, however they were noticeable at the Saturn's standard resolution (VF2's shadows are meshes but a much higher resolution) which is only partially taken care of by RF/composite which have a less sharp image. Meshes have their own problems as well; it's a free effect used by setting a flag, however the meshed pixels are the same between layers so meshes overlapping meshes will result in the background mesh being eaten (a good time to set one of those to transparent!).
Burning Rangers is an obvious exception as you pointed out; its transparent polygons get written to the background frame buffer (albeit at half resolution, and resized, to reduce data), meaning that you can still have a transparent GUI on top. However, Burning Rangers, though very playable, suffers from a sub-25 frame rate. The Saturn really is struggling here.
In titles where lots of transparencies would be needed for water effects, the Saturn should theoretically have a leg-up over the PlayStation - VDP2 can do it in its sleep (though not generally multi-layered transparencies - BR hacks round this), it doesn't cost any polygons, and the draw range is practically unlimited.
*+Stephan Dolby* Keio Flying Squadron 2 actually has real transparencies and runs at 60fps. It's truly a technical marvel on the Saturn and it's a sad shame Nocturne in the Moonlight bombed as badly as it did, given that other game existed a few years prior. Truly shameful and reminds you that they did an awful job.
i may be a fan of sony bit Sega Saturn looks MUCH better!
Esse jogo só me lembra aquele 3 em 1 da Players que vinha esse DBZ, o Ultimate Battle 22 e o Final Bout, alguém lembra?
O danilo gentili jogou esse jogo no programa dele contra um cara cego, foi demais!!!
Tony Horo você resumiu minha infância bro!
hahahaah eu tinha.
@@brunosoares9081 Exatamente! O cego deu um pau nele no db GT
Jogo mais honesto da saga Dragon Ball Z ja lançado, fico com a versão de Saturn, mas ambas versões são muito boas.
Tu acha boa a jogabilidade no Saturn? Apesar dos gráficos e áudio serem melhores no Saturn (além do jogo rodar a 60 FPS) achei muito complicado de jogar. O ki do personagem descarrega rápido
I see Sony fanboyism in the comments. The game is clearly better on Saturn.
FuchGugel shut the hell up
Khamsy Phommavongsa
fanboy
true.. Saturn wins
I have both, I can tell you it runs a lot better in the PS especially gameplay wise. On the Saturn it doesn't lock on to the guy you're fighting often missing hits or flying off to nowhere where as this isn't an issue on the ps version.
Don't think it's fanboyism. Personally, I notice the Saturn's superior frame rate (and that's a huge plus). But the PS version has superior detail w/ respect to the charge effects. The Saturn version, as is clear to everyone looking, is very off. Grainy. Transparent. Whereas, the PS version, despite the lower frame rate, produces imagery closer to the anime source material. For me, that's the kicker. PS wins by a mile.
As ambas versões ficaram boas mas a do Saturno ficou melhor. Os detalhes do chão a voz e a tela girando
As a kid, I had the Sega Saturn verison, but I definitely knew from online resources/archives/videos that the PS1 verison was way better.
Does no one see that the ps1 doesn't even have the trees ? Or that the frame rate blows ? I had a ps1 I didnt even know the game existed for the Saturn, I feel cheated !
好想跟朋友們一起來重溫這個經典的遊戲的說！看到大家都在回憶這款遊戲的精彩瞬間，真的好感動的說。有沒有人跟我一樣也想再次體驗這個遊戲的說？這款遊戲真的是Dragon Ball 迷不能錯過的說！它完美地再現了動畫中的戰鬥感覺，每一招都讓我猶如身臨其境的說。大家有沒有玩過類似的遊戲，也可以一起分享心得的說！
J’adore ce jeu, j’ai joué ton petit, j’ai dû m’acheter une PlayStation japonaise parce que j’étais que en japonais et là j’y joue encore en 2023😊
La versión de Saturn es rapidísima, tiene más animaciones, tiene árboles, sombras con punto de luz, nubes, una mejor perspectiva, la jugabilidad es mucho mejor y los efectos como por ejemplo la henkidama son como los del animé y no un panal de abejas...
La play siempre fue deforestación jajaja sino compara la escena del bosque resident evil 4 de GameCube con la de la "pley2".
PSX: Good Graphics
Sega Saturn: Better details in atacks and movements.
BOTH: Good DBZ old game
Also when you hold the power-up button all characters get the clear crisp SSJ aura sound effect purely ripped from the anime on Saturn version. PS1 version another muffled hashed up aura sound effect
There were no damn trees where the Z team fought the Saiyans!😞 PS1 FOR THE WIN BABY!💯
THE SEGA SATURN WAS A BEAST AT 2D-3D graphics
Prince greene yeah saturn was more powerful on both than ps1.
not 3d , but 2d yes... maybe in theory it was but developers couldn't understand it
in 3D also in fact
hmm. Not really 3d. The saturn used quads, but the ps1 used triangles, and while on paper the saturn could do more polygons over all, the triangles were more efficient.
It's more an issue of the saturn not being developed with 3d in mind until the last moment and sonys 3d functions were better optimized.
But lets talk about this dbz game here. Saturn has the better graphics for the most part. 99% of the stuff displayed was better.
The Saturn was not good a making 3D games but good at 2D fighters
PS1 had 1 edge.. Transparency.. Other than that.. Sega Saturn version for the responsive controls and Faster gameplay being a far superior 2-D machine.... I had both games imported before and them shits costed a grip.. I sold the PS1 version to Cop the Saturn version
Nice, man! I wish I had been so knowledgeable about the import scene back then. It seemed like the only place to get imports was Funcoland, and I didn't have one nearby. Loved the Saturn, but missed out on some great games because of that.
michaeloffgrid Oh man.... Funcoland lol.. Here in New York... I had 2 spots that keep a large import selection... I don't ever remember buying a America Version of anything. That extra 10 was always worth it. It was like I had a "Sega Geo" or a "Neo Saturn" lmao...
So, the PS version looking more like the show is not a factor? I can't be the only one that sees it.
Daguza Mishima Stop it... Both played and did the same extra shit. PSX edge was transparency.. that's it. Saturn had the overall edge in gameplay speed, responsiveness.
SDS Overfiend A real dragon ball fan would prefer the one that looks like the show. No one really gives a crap about specs.
Not that the saturn version looks bad or anything. Although, those auras, when they're flying around in the saturn version do look bad to me. And as some have said, it's a bit too fast.
This video is a PERFECT go to for when you encounter PS fanboys who say the Saturn is lousy at or cant even do transparencies at all.
The KI aura effect is some crazy good examples of what the Saturn could actually do!
Yeah, it was pretty beefy at 2D graphics but it did suffer with the transparencies. Doesn't matter though, it was equally good on both consoles. I technically prefer the speed of the PlayStation version though (and this comes from a sega fan) because it feels closer to the anime in terms of speed. They're just going far too fast on the saturn, which is awesome, but makes the combo feel like it's ending quicker, taking away from the impact. I love how dynamic the camera is with it's angles on the saturn version, but there's also a lot of unneeded stuff in the graphics too, such as all of those trees lying around on empty fields, but the foreground clouds are nice in the sky. The aura while charging is very awesome in terms of frames as well. The framerate was also slightly higher than the PlayStation version, showing what the eight processors were capable of. It's still amazing to see how the PlayStation held up though, seeing as it only has ONE processor.
I played the hell out of the PS1 version. I didn't even know a Saturn version existed. I loved the look of the Saturn version in this video.
Or you can refer to X-men vs Street Fighter in why Saturn is better haha
The unfortunate irony of your post is that those auras aren't even transparent (well, technically what you mean is translucent). They're just alternating between opaque and no visible pixels. You can see this on some other higher resolution videos of the Saturn version.
Sega Saturn Wins easy!!! More fast, more cameras, more textures, more details..
No Saturn podemos ver que a jogabilidade é mais fluída e temos mais elementos na tela. Mas na minha opinião, a aura e os poderes parecem melhores no PS1
Ao contrário, no ps1 que é mais fluido. Além do som no ps1 ser melhor.
Elementos positivos no saturn: mais detalhes,árvores e nuvens, também tem algumas magias boas como o masenko e o makankosappo,mas o kiezan do kurilin esta bem zuado, assim como a aura de ki deles está bem artificial , o kiezan do kurilin está semelhantemente parecido. Psone: tem a aura mais bonita, a aura do Ki o kiezan também mais bem elaborado. Em materia de framerate não sei dizer... mas acho que ambas tem pontos positivos e negativos.
So, Saturn has Kaioh-sama 's voice actor voice telling the story before each stage, better fps during the battles, sound is louder and clearer , and backgrounds have more elements ... while psx version has better tranparency effects. Interesting.
Que gran juego! Muchos recuerdos vienen a mi mente.
This was my favorite Dragon Ball game up until DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 on the Wii.
Both versions are good but gameplay wise it’s better on the PS and I own both versions.
What both versions are missing are having Chiaotzu, Yamcha and Tien as characters....
Good lord these fights drag on forever. Doesn't look fun at all but the clear winner is the Sega Saturn.
Evil Trapezium hey its just like the show
I always liked the super long fights just because it's different from most games and more like the anime.
I can see why it would turn some people off though and that may also be why it never got a released outside of Japan.
The Saturn version came out in Europe.
I've had this game for psOne for god knows how long. (At least 17 years) and I love to this very day. This is the first time I've seen it on Saturn. It runs waaaay better on Saturn.
Psx is struggling, suffering to keep it up. Totally outmatched!🤣
Too bad the Saturn version has botched controls, rendering the PS version the victor.
@The Big Picture I sense snowflaking.
That draw distance from the PS1 though… is, impressive. Why or how can it draw much further than the Saturn?
I'm confuse here. I had thought the ps1 version you can't switch characters on the fly????? Are you playing versus mode? I remember it was talked about back then.
Saturn Wins again... Thanks for this videos
My ps1 version didnt have voice or music on presentation CGs
\\\\\\What a beast VDP2 is. Extremely advanced for its time.. It's doing 3D poly infinite planes with high res texures and perspective correct ones at that along with Sky box and rotation and Transparent moving clouds.
Em relação a games 2D, sempre curti as versões de Segasatan. Esse não é diferente... vou no console da Sega (Que me parece mais facil para dar as golpes/magias).
Por anos a fio esse foi o melhor game de DB. E a versão de Saturn, a melhor.
My brother had the sega Saturn version and I used to love to play it. Of the memories
Wow, if only the Sega Dreamcast died in 2004 we would've probably seen Dragon Ball Z Original Budokai on PS2, Gamecube, & Dreamcast.
Not necessarily.
It all depends on how it was doing in Japan.
And if I am not mistaken the Dreamcast wasn't doing very well in Japan.
@@wonder-games3579 Nah, not really. It didn't really last long anywhere. They was selling the Sega Dreamcast like hotcakes down in Japan & down in the U.S. it just didn't really last as long due to fact because of the PS2. Soon sony brought out the PlayStation 2 they kicked the Dreamcast straight back to the shelfs & closed them down and had Sega turn into a hardware company. I remember that joint. Even this TV station G4TV was trending about it back 2000 to 2001. it was because the PlayStation 2 had better graphics, better exclusive platforms, & It was the first Console that could ever play Music, Movies, and Games as an all in one as a homing game console. Even the voice acting on PS2 games where actually well done. Also I think that's probably why no Dragon Ball Z games didn't make it to the Sega Dreamcast. The Sega Dreamcast has been rushed, The voice acting was off, and the facial expressions wasn't no good.
Sonic The Hedgehog huh, now am wondering why none of the budokai games made it to The XBOX
@@theamazingspiderman4911 That's what I was wondering! The XBOX is the new Dreamcast, basically. Because Microsoft helped Sega with the Saturn and the Dreamcast. And as soon Sega decided to stay as a hardware company, that's when Microsoft decided to bring out the XBOX right after the Sega Dreamcast died
@@sonicthejetsetbeat7465 The Xbox was being worked on long before the Dreamcast was discontinued.
I like the speed the Saturn had but overall I liked how the PS1 assets looked better. For example the special beam canon and Gohan's power. It just looks closer to the anime
is the extra ram that help the saturn which the ps1 lacks
the saturn can not do transparecies effect correctly in many games had some nasty dithering but the frames are there not cut like the ps1
Saturn by a LONG mile. Early PS1 games sucks compared to Saturn...and I own the PS1.
Damn the Saturn version looks fast asf and I thought the ps1 version was fast already! This is still the only game that truly captured the feel and speed of a dbz fight
I played this on the Saturn back in the 90s but I remember not really knowing how to play it. I had no translation. But still enjoyed it.
The PSX version has much better looking attacks.....the Saturn version is too fast, its kind of comedic, they reduced the speed on PSX and is much better as a result
*SATURN WINS HANDS DOWN!* ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
The mountain background element on the saturn scrolls too slowly. It looks horrible. Why did they do that?
Is the sega saturn really pulling better performance than the psx here?
what the fuck???????????????
in 2d games the saturn is better than the psx, just look x men vs street fighter or marvel vs street fighter
+Walter Barraza yeah but even the 3d effects look better.
SOTN was originally programmed for the PS, then ported by a different team than who made the game, to the
Saturn. Don't let the fanboyism blind you.
Still though many games on the Saturn didn't use transparency, rather opting for dithering for those effects
Probably something to do with the processors being dumb
Is everyone just gonna ignore that you needed the ram card game peripheral to make the 2D of the saturn look better than the PS?
Just look the shadow from Team Ginyu , Saturn version look better , Saturn win again !
Vc Decide! Achei o do Sega Saturn melhor por entregar uma gameplay mais fluída e tinha alguns elementos a mais no cenário.
The sega Saturn version should have a modern version in PS5. It would be the best DBZ game ever.
@7:56 Piccolo "Phenomenon, da da da da da. Phenomenon, da da da da da. Phenomenon, da da da da da. Charging my attack".
There is no sound from the right (PSX) during the intro
Saturn version all the way, the playstation may be technically superior and was probably more impressive back when it first came out but the effects on the saturn version are not bad and it also runs, controls and plays better than the playstation version.
The PSX is WEAKER in power than the Saturn.
I liked so mutch this intro. was awesome
I have played both versions since I owned both the Saturn and the PS1 back in the day.
My memories all this time were wrong. I thought all this time that the PS1 was better coz I played the game more there.
Saturn is just superior in every aspect but I didn’t expect the audio to be better on that version!
This looks like a 1 to 1 tie to me. Saturn has closer backgrounds and trees, PS1 has further backgrounds and stone blocks instead. Really just comes down to which speed you prefer; hyper or ludicrous.
This entire comment section is example of how toxic dragon ball fans is
Audio sounds way better on the Saturn somehow.
Now this is what I've suspected for quite some time.. Just because the PS1 is more efficient at drawing more triangles and verts in scene, can you see them? If you use The Saturn properly this is what happens on PS1. Games aren't wireframes views ( PS1 would win that ) and complex 3D graphics is not just pumping more polys. The Saturn can do more complex 3D graphics. Just imagine what would happen if it tried to run Panzer dragoon zeiw or Saga or Radient Sivergun ( shudders to think. Thunder force 5 looks way less complex and PS1 had major cuts in that so just imagine RS got ported. How bad would it be vs Saturn original? ) I knew PS1 couldn't handle VDP2 3D infinite poly planes and now I can see the results. The PS1 literally ate through its polygon engine peak performance to render it and there's still loads of cuts= No rotation background, low res ground with warping, no perspective correct textures, no trees, no moving clouds and the framerate still tanks hard.
I first got this game Summer of 1996 for Sega Saturn, and months later for the Playstation.
In my opinion the Sega Saturn version is better, because characters have more finishers on the Sega Saturn, than on the Playstation version of Legends.
The same goes for Ultimate Battle 22, the Playstation version is inferior to the Sega Saturn one.
Dick Grayson UB22 never came out on the Saturn.
@@littleman7514 Probably means Shin Butouden, which is marginally better than UB22. Still not a very good game though.
Probably.
I am so glad my first experience with this game was on Saturn.
PS1 user here, while back then I thought the sega was so much better because of the shadows, i see now that the sony had a better camera angle, larger 3d area and cleaner effects.
O truque da luta contra Freezer: deixem Krilin lutar sozinho e ser assassinado. Goku se transforma no Super Saiyajin!
I had te saturn version. It was more fast pace play than the ps1. But i must say that the colors and efects of the Ps are better
i want the ps1 attack animations on the saturn! ;)
^^^ THIS! yes
This game was peak dbz , everything about it was , how a dragon ball game should’ve been back then
Versão Saturn melhor no geral, embora sem os efeitos de transparência. Esse joguinho é legal demais, pena que não importe qual personagem você use, o gameplay é sempre o mesmo. Tanto é que até os andróides possuíam a capacidade de expandir o KI, sendo que nunca fizeram isso no anime, pelo que me lembro...
Dizem que no Saturn o jogo é bem mais difícil que no PS, a ponto de você ter que bolar estratégias pra conseguir vencer algumas lutas. Procede?
La version PS1 est bien plus jouissif à jouer, j’ai deux versions et toujours plus kiffé la version PS1
Ultimate battle 22 was different from the playstation version. you should do a video on that.
Huh, never noticed the different cover art before lol. Also interesting how the cutscenes move differently in both versions.
this game was better on Saturn. had it on both :)
No it wasn't. Not with the delay in button input. Also, the Playstation version gives you way more space to move around when playing 1 player vs 1 player. In the Saturn version, 1 player vs 1 player gives you the same tiny playing field as 2+ vs 2+. It looks and sounds better, and that is it.
@@BallisticFaceGuy "it looks and sounds better, and that is it." That sounds like +1 for Saturn to me. Goku's Spirit Bomb alone was far more fun see on the Saturn rather than PS just for example. Although, I am talking comparison some 25yrs ago
@@palehorse720 I'd say if the game can't even handle basic input, that's too big of a detractor to even qualify as being better. Or even if it was a very small difference, that would maybe be enough to take the top spot. The controls are so delayed, though. I wish that they would re-release the game with the quick responsiveness and larger multiplayer play field from the PS and the graphics/sound from the Saturn version, because it would be the ultimate DBZ game in my opinion. Edit: I agree fully that the super moves LOOK way better on Saturn, but those are cutscenes, and the controls are too hampered in my opinion.
been a hot minute since I've seen and played this game
I used to have it on the Saturn. What a great game it was back then. So much fun
A velocidade do jogo no Saturn é incrivel
Sur Saturne, les combats sont brouillon comparé à la version PS1 et les bruitages moins bon sur saturne préfère la version PS j’ai joué aux deux
Wow, the Saturn destroys the PS1 lol and the Saturn came out before the PlayStation 😂😂😂
I am a much bigger fan of the Saturn but the PlayStation has much better lighting effects and when all the characters come out they have a power Aura and some electricity for some of them that the Saturn completely lacks but the game plan Saturn seems to be quicker and more efficient.
Sega Saturn version is best, better sound and gameplay.
Sega Saturn massacrou o ps1, mas, eu ainda fico desconfortável com a luz irregular no chão na versão do nosso querido saturn.
I only played the Ps1 version when I was a kid, and I love it, but now seeing the Sega Saturn version I think that maybe the Ps1 version could be much better.
There are pros and cons for both versions. I grew up playing the Playstation version. That was a blast. It was easy to perform the connect combos. I just tried the Sega Saturn version. I just might not be used to it, but it was way more difficult to perform the connect combos on the Saturn version. Another big difference i noticed was when performing the connect combos while having the aura. In the Saturn version, the character loses energy. In the Playstation version, the character maintains their energy while performing the connect combos with the aura. Either way, this game was and is still fun. This was a great video that showed many differences between the two versions. Thank you.
The ki and light effects look better on PS1 but I guess this made the game run slower. The Saturn versions seems to be a updated version of the game.
I wonder why the saturn had so much trouble doing transparency in gameplay
Clearly Sega Saturn had a better performance and capability, that’s why we can see clouds, a different particle from súper ki blast, etc. however by that time everyone wanted to play videos games more in 3D, so people would think sega was better. Nowadays we all know 3D graphics don’t match so well with DBZ, that’s why the new DBZ games have anime kind of graphic. So for us it’s better not to see 3D things like in sega was
Joguei bastante a versao do ps1,a versao do Saturno é mais bonita,tem arvores no cenario e FPS mais instavel.
Yup. Even though I'm a Playstation fan, Saturn wins. It has a better framerate, a better "Press Start" closing, and voicing goes better on Saturn. The sound effects go with that too.
Só eu que não conhecia os personagens quando chegava na saga do Boo?
Paulo Eduardo que eu lembre esse jogo saiu antes da saga buu estreiar no Brasil
SEGA Saturn wins, once again.
The first imported game that I ever played on the ps1.
I have to say Saturn is best. And owned a ps back in the day
saturn was a better machine in 2d perspective. Saturn was very much underrated. it did not get the chance it deserved. i have a region free saturn with 1080p scart hookup and ever so love my street fighter and marvel collections. there was only handful of ps games i care about. sega never knew how to handle the beast they used to make. rip saturn
Jason Hull technically (spec-wise), Saturn is also more powerful than PSX on 3D (Radiant Silvergun, PD II Zwei, PD Saga and Sonic R took advantage of the dual-cpu architecture of the Saturn and were superior to any PS1 3D game, with higher resolutions, more effects on screen, and engines designed to work with the Saturn hardware from the ground up).
No sabía que había salido este videojuego en PlayStation, aquí en Europa solo salió la versión de Sega Saturn
How far we have come..Now we get Dragon Ball Fighter Z
When I first played Xenoverse it reminded me of this game.
La versión de PS1 también tiene sonido al iniciar el juego después del mensaje de presionar star, además de el narrador, es un error de la ROM.
Tho Saturn offers more graphics wise the fighting pace on PS is easier to follow. Some hate this Game but I enjoyed it much.
Amo la versión de Saturn,te dice que hasta en la portada del juego es mejor.
Que paliza de Sega a Sony xD
Sega Saturn es Excelente
Best Dragon Ball game. Saturn version. 🔥