In Transformers 4 when Optimus wakes up he's yelling for Sam to run. That combined with all the bullet holes in Optimus' body means Sam's death was always pretty obvious. Especially since when they were talking about hunting down the Autobots they specifically mentioned killing off their sympathizers to draw them out.
All I'm saying is it makes sense for the character to say that. He doesn't know how he's alive. Granted, it's explained in the novelization, and there was apparently a deleted scene film where it actually its explained how Palpatine "lived". Spoilers, it's like 90% the same as it was in legends with a few details and location changes.
In legends, Palpatine transferred his consciousness to a clone body. I agree with theautomator that it makes sense the character wouldn't know, but I think they still should've explained it in the movie at some point for those who don't know the backstory. Plus, iirc, legends isn't cannon anymore, so really any reason could work
Rosario Dawson was filming Star Wars stuff during the time Clerks III was shot. It was a scheduling issue….but Becky’s death is a vital reason for why Dante is so willing to risk everything for a person he loves who almost died. There’s no way he puts up his half of the stores for collateral for Randall’s movie if Becky and his child are alive. Also, the scene with Brian and Rosario leaving the movie theatre…so heartbreaking, but sweet. Dante can finally rest. There are only days off now.
Honestly I kind of like that they killed off Sarah Connor after T2 since it shows that she got a peaceful death. She ultimately got what she was fighting for in that timeline. Though I know it didn't last but that's time travel stories.
@@Stuart267 relative to dying in the robot takeover it still is a peacetime death. Showing her life had meaning and she didn't do everything she did for nothing.
@@urahara64360 At least that would be quick lol. I have seen people with cancer, one lady literally vomited a fountain of blood. They had her out on the ward because rooms were too full & the days I was there visiting someone the lady was either crying in pain or put in an induced coma, at the end she just made an inhuman noise & was convulsing on her back before she projectile vomited a ton of blood out of her body before passing
Some of these it's hard to get upset about, since they were hardly big players in their respective series. Aurra Sing? Unless you watched Clone Wars, she's not even a footnote in Star Wars lore. And even in Clone Wars, she's not a particularly engaging character.
Even tho it sucked to kill off the Hellfire Club and a few others from First Class, it worked as a reason for Mystique and Magneto’s desire for revenge against Trask since he was responsible for their torture and murders and to continue using their remains for experimentation. I think it was a little more personal for Mystique because they were her friends, plus one of them was the father of her child.
The death of Becky in Clerks 3 was really difficult for me to accept or even understand. I mean Rosario Dawson was still in that movie as Becky. But the fact that they killed her off sometime after Clerks 2 was really screwed. And being that time has passed near the end of 2 during the montage where Randal and Dante were rebuilding the Quickstop and shows Becky well ahead in her pregnancy meant she died very shortly after that film. It's just mind-boggling.
The point was to show that Dante, who spent most of his life hating his job, in grief and only had a small circle of friends, at the end of the day looking back he saw himself as having a great life. If you kept Becky and her child alive and changes the story. As someone who doesn't have kids, doesn't expect to find someone to share my life with, has had loss and grief and loneliness the ending hit harder because in a lot of ways I am like Dante.
Smith wanted to make a comment on real life and loss after his near fatal heart attack. He also wanted to give Dante a final goodbye and with the loss of his family plus seeing Randall will be okay with his new surrogate family let him leave in peace
@@tarzangief only people who have suffered real loss would get the message of the movie. Plus as someone who has had brushes with death it brings a kind of awakening that happy endings are just premature ones
I thought the death of Meryl Streep's character was actually done well in Mama Mia 2. We still got to see Donna at the end as a spirit/vision at her grandson's Christening, showing the bond with her daughter Sophie and others. It also framed why there were so many "flashbacks" And her offscreen death had impact throughout the whole movie on multiple characters. I wouldn't call it a lousy death, but a well done one given the circumstances. And if a lousy death, certainly not a number three (or 13 if you look at the first list as the top 10) lousy death.
Same here. A younger cousin that I grew up with and looked out for introduced me to the 'Clerks' movies and the 'View Askewniverse'. ....He's gone now and 'Clerks 2' was the last 'Askewnivese' movie we watched together. I figured that I'd watch 'Clerks 3' and have a happy cry. D-FUCKING-STROYED me.
My biggest annoyance of this nature is The Krakkon in Pirates of the Caribbean. In 2 it is the big scary weapon but in 3 it has just been killed off. How?? Always felt they had no idea how to do it or the cost of the CG would have been too high.
Wow, if I had a nickel for every time a character played by Shia LaBeouf, got killed off screen in huge movie series, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened TWICE, right?
Angel from First Class deserved to die. She jumped ship too easily and I personally just didn't like her. The fact that the other mutants didn't lie low or have any warning before their deaths was just pathetic.
I personally really liked Mutt when Crystal Skull came out as a kid and now being in my early 20’s I’m kinda sad and shocked to find out of his fate I would never have wished this upon Indi and I would have liked to have seen Mutt go on his own adventures.
I personally would've liked if mutt followed in his fathers footsteps not as an archaeologist or adventurer but as a spy. They hinted at indies military career in the same movie. I felt #5 was the movie nobody asked for and the box office showed that
Resident Evil for me, they finally unite the survivors at the end of Retribution, just for Alice to take the lead again in Final Chapter. Not even explaining how the survivors died off, instead the novelization gruesomely killed the survivors in one fell swoop via a biomass. To which none of the survivors have been killed off in a game entry. It could really be argued that Paul WS Anderson and Milla Jovovich hijacked the Resident Evil franchise for exposure. As the film franchise and stunt work centers around Jovovich’s character. They basically used the franchise as their own personal portfolio for the sci-fi industry. Which worked because Paul would go on to direct Monster Hunter with Jovovich at the helm there too. Their daughter was also cast as a younger Natasha Romanoff in Black Widow.
If they wanted to they could always pull the "Mutt wasn't actually dead', but a POW" angle if they really wanted to. They probably won't, but with the vagueness of what actually happened leaves it as an option.
The most insluiting off screen death was the end of Resident Evil Retribution. Jill, Ada, Leon and Becky all die. Off screen.... all to further Alice's story
1:29 No it's not reasonable to assume the character just decided to do whatever somewhere else in Zion. That would be more disrespectful to a character that presumably has some level of conviction towards Morpheus and his beliefs as well as the rest of the crew. A character like Tank would continue to follow his crew.
arguably it would've been plenty good to have had Tank retire to teach others or train others due to his injury. It would've been a fantstic explaination for why so much of Morpheus and Neo became such a viral sensation to zion...when the leader ship didn't really like them much and it was heavily implied it was a word of mouth that spread it through neo rescuing but Morpheus was before. I would've liked the implcations that tank and others were pushing for them at home the whole time they were out. Since most of the folks they actually rescue in the matrix are out of zion on ships too.. so it always felt a bit weird. Even considering rescued folks go to Zion generally. They needed a home team to really push that.
I think Marvel mutants EMMA FROST, ANGEL SALVADORE, RIPTIDE, AZAZEL, BANSHEE, DARWIN, & more. All these mutants characters deserve to be in the M.C.U. movies, and in the M.C.U. shows.
Banshee would've been a perfect fit for the show The Gifted, and you probably would've gotten a backstory on him as well. and you'd most likely know if he had his family or not too, in X-Men: First Class you don't even know if he has his family at all and I have a major problem with that.
I’m surprised Transformers even got mentioned, that franchise has zero regard for continuity and each successive sequel has blithely steamrolled the last.
Aurra Sing was simply implied that she was killed off, Beckett said he pushed her and followed that with pretty sure she was dead. Did Beckett strip of her gear before pushing her off or the fact that it was implicated she was force sensetive. Plus this was all done off screen so meh, don't believe she's dead until Disney and Lucasfilm confirm it.
It's Disney. Even if they showed her body being cremated, then her ashes flushed down a toilet, you can rest assured she'll reappear alive and well whenever the story needs to "subvert expectations."
@@DeltaArc1136 the Expanded Universe was as real canon as Disney wished it ever could’ve been. And was never handled as a piece of shit as what Disney canon currently is. EU > Disney EU = real canon. Disney = fake canon EU = love. Disney = hatred EU = for the fans. Disney = disdain for the fans
Although Hagen is sorely missed in Godfather 3, I still think its a pretty good film. The studio should have given Duvall what he wanted. Ridley Hack made Alien Covenant out of spite. It also needs to be noted that he suddenly rushed this movie into production after the Blomkamp idea for Alien 3 was gaining a huge amount of momentum by fans. He has now recently started whining about how he wished he made the Blade Runner sequel instead. This is his fault. He has no one else to blame. Alien Covenant is not only one of the worst movies of the last decade, but it also ruins Prometheus. Prometheus was strongly flawed in its script, but it had interesting ideas. A potential sequel could have built up on these ideas if done properly, but Ridley Hack put this pretentious garbage out that is clearly not what he had initially set up with Prometheus. With his awful Alien prequels, & other trash like Hannibal, it is obvious that Gladiator 2 is going to be more rubbish. Not to mention that the original film, while enjoyable, is still a cut & dry revenge story with one note characters that doesn't warrant a sequel.
Honestly having sarah conner die of luekema was fine to me. She died of natural causes (albiet one caused by....the various robots breaches). but the idea of Sarah Conner dying in relative peace (cancer sucks its not peaceful but i mean not in a war scene) is kind of good for her character at that point in time.
The death of Becky in clerks 3 added more depth to the story. When he decides to follow her into the hereafter it was a final goodbye we needed to end the clerks franchise. As a husband and father if my family were taken from me I would lose myself too
This list seems a bit nitpickyy. Not every death needs an explanation no matter how important or favored the character was. Not everything needs to be explained. Sometimes it could ruin pacing or change a story just to keep a character in just to kill them off and since most of the actors in here were problematic Im not sure what people were expecting the studios to do. Grit their teeth and bare with a troublesome performer and risk the whole production? Besides, I actually liked how Alien Covenant did it. It was an intriguing shock and added to the menace of the android to learn he had turned long before the movie started.
I wasn't sure how Tank died. Sure he was injured but it looked like he was going to be okay. Shia LaBeouf said three transformers was enough? Well he's not wrong. It looks like Transformers have been milking their franchise since some of their movies really sucked. Rise of the Beasts was okay. Why did Linda Hamilton return to the Terminator franchise later? Mamma Mia! was not a good movie. Why have a sequel? 9:12 Now that is messed up O_o. 10:08 I was going to mention that. Can't say I'm surprised. That movie was mediocre. Indiana Jones was obviously too old for this shit and I think Harrison Ford injured himself while throwing a punch. He didn't fight much in that movie either. Even though he was old in Crystal Skull he wasn't too old to put up a good fight. Dial of Destiny should be the last one. To be honest it should have ended with the third one since that ending was so good. Crystal Skull and especially Dial of Destiny was unnecessary.
Absurd. Mutt's death wasn't insulting; LeBeouf's own behavior ruined his career and besides, a character dying in the Viet Nam war is hardly surprising, or insulting.
For Mutt Williams’ death, all I want to say to the Indiana Jones fans is, well, you hated the character so the filmmakers listened to you and got rid of him. So why even complain when you wanted Mutt gone from the franchise since his introduction in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?
@@journeysands2622 I actually did not like the character for a different reason than most. They did the same thing with MacGyver. They made a character that was suave and dashing and a hit with the ladies and then they forgot to have him settle down and have a family so they retconned in an illegitimate child. It makes the guy look like a deadbeat who didn't bother to check in on the girls he knocked up. Why couldn't they just have started Crystal Skull with him already divorced from Marion and aware he had a son. They hadn't made a movie in so long they could've had Indy have gotten up to anything but they chose to have him still doing the same thing and unmarried and then they felt bad about their own decision. It's not Mutt I hate, but the way they brought Indy down by adding him.
@@sanddagger36Interesting take. I think Indy may not have been ready to settle down and that is why Marion hid him. He stepped up when he discovered Mutt didn't he? I didn't think it brought him down in any way. Hey, from our names, we are all Sand people hehehe.
@@journeysands2622 I found the character funny. It was a clear rip off of Fonzie from Happy Days with other silliness thrown in. At least he wasnt screaming all the time like Willie from Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom.
@@TiaraStarbrighter Well, according to the filmmakers, you SHOULD be happy Mutt is dead because they actually listened to the criticisms from the fans regarding the character and did away with him so you never have to see him again.
Well Clerks 3, Rosaria Dawson was in the movie, her being killed off was sad but I think it was a major part of the story and made for a better movie. I went into clerks 3 not expecting much and left feeling kind of moved and thought it was pretty well done (which is a surprise for Kevin Smith movies).
Tom Hagen disappearing wasn't so surprising when you remember Clemenza didn't make it to GODFATHER PART II; not so much a death, since she didn't get mentioned in the sequel, but why didn't Sue from HOPE AND GLORY last into QUEEN AND COUNTRY?
They did Singh dirty. the OG A. SIngh was a padawan that fell to the dark side and became a bounty hunter. She was powerful enough to give Qui-gon and Obi-wan a hard time and a known jedi killer. Being killed by basically a nobody, a shadow of their former self just sucks hard.
Of course they would kill Indiana's son... we couldn't have an openning for a male protagonist right? And it was an excuse to make Indiana more of a depressed old guy full of frustrations(just like Luke, what a shock... it seems the same people are. responsible right?) they had to replace him witha strong female character of course...
Killing Becky off screen made sense in the context of the movie because it allows the movie to focus on Dante's inability to move on and cope. He's a shell of his former self because he found happiness, and had it brutally ripped away from him in a tragic and sadly common way. It's not something you have to build to which wouldn't have allowed the movie to tell the story it needed to tell, and it's not something that would have been done suddenly because then it would have started the movie off at a place where it would have been extremely difficult to come back from IE killing off a beloved character in a brutal act of violence mere moments into the movie's start. So yea, killing off Becky makes sense, and its not as if she doesn't appear in the movie. She's just not "alive".
Mutts death was just an excuse to downplay Indy in his own movie and prop up Fleabag as his replacement. Though Kennedy DID have to reshoot the terrible ending with Indy dying the damage was already done. Hell, George Lucas made it pretty clear he had no respect for Kennedy by intentionally leaving her out of his speach where, despite being right next to him on stage, he congratulated the OTHER people he’d worked with in the past.
Clerks 3 was trash. Kevin Smith sold out to Hollywood & in turn his career was cursed. The film was cringe, unfunny & badly acted from start to finish.
@@Stuart267how did Smith sell out to Hollywood W/Clerks III? Did you see Mallrats? Do you know nothing of how it was mismanaged? How Hollywood producers meddled with it? Clerks III was mostly done as a Smith speaking tour, with a limited theatrical run.
@@bigfatgoalie316 Kevin Smith is now a woke prlck who preaches from the woketard handbook, Only reason I bothered watching the 3rd film is simply because the original is one of my all time favourite movies & the sequel although many didn't like it I personally loved it. Clerks 3 was so bad I don't remember laughing even once, the "comedy" was forced as hell too.
I didnt even KNOW there was a part III. I only found out about part II a few years ago, still havent got around to watching it yet. And there's a documentary about the guy who plays Silent Bob(forget his name) called Clerk too. Came out 2021.
@@starscreamthecruel8026 Kevin Smith he was great at one time. Do yourself a favour & avoid the 3rd film its not funny & just destroys all the beloved characters from the films.
It says a lot that two Shia characters were killed off. I don't know if it says more about the writers or the public's opinion on Shia, but it says something.
Killing off characters is a often to see failure to see when it comes to Hollywood lazy writing. The writing school teaches such a story implication would bring drive and momentum ... but it's just lazy writing for absent cast, Budget problems or just idealess thinking of solving such difficultys
January Jones was a jerk and tried to extort money out of her baby daddy. Then when the judge told her that wasn’t allowed, she was basically throwing a fit and then was being a jerk so they fired her from the X-Men franchise. Even the kids who played her kids on Mad Men said she was awful to work with. I have no sympathy for someone like that. Shia was being a total punk. He blamed Steven Spielberg for his downfall when Steven called him the next Tom Hanks and praised him. Shia sank his own career and was also saying he never wanted to do Transformers again saying it destroyed his career. Once again, no sympathy. Edward Furlong. Wow he flushed his career down the toilet. He had so much potential and what did he do? He got hooked on drugs and became an abusive piece of trash. Sorry, but even his on screen fate in Terminator: Dark Fate was too good for him. I don’t respect Edward Furlong and he is refusing to pay child support. He’s instead spending his time abusing drugs and abusing his frequent gf Monica Keena. Not being funny, that’s what he is doing. He had a restraining order against him for beating her up, only to be found with her coming out of a restaurant, flaunting that he doesn’t care what the rules are. Oh and lastly with January Jones, she wasn’t even supposed to play Emma Frost. That was going to be Alice Eve but she bowed out due to scheduling and not being happy with the character.
i have feelings on number 4. on the one hand, she's the kind of character that, if you don't see the body, don't count them as dead. on the other hand, that movie was horrible, and i refuse to consider it lore. so either way, she's alive.
First class should have been a new timeline than a solf reboot lets hope Transformers don't make that same mistakes since paramount still say bumblebee and rotb a prequel
It worked in Mad Men, where she was playing a character who was cold, detached, distant, and wooden. But how often do you need a character fitting that description?
@@user-mg5mv2tn8q Exactly she is the definition of one note. Blew my mind when I watched First Class 1st time round, all these actors giving great performances & then there is her
Okay but with spoilers the clerks III one is’t really fair, it’s super helpful for the story and character development. Yes it would have been better to even get a token car crash scene, but where do you put it?
of course it's bullshit how they were killed off, can't blame you for being infuriated by it. I didn't like Angel Salvadore that much because she was a traitor, but she still didn't deserve to be mutilated like she was and the same with the other mutants.
I don't think Sam Witwicky's death was "insulting" per se, since every story beat in Bay's Transformers series is insulting; couldn't even keep narrative and world-building continuity between films, so hardly surprisingly the ostensible protagonist was eventually forgotten, too. I didn't mind the Sarah Connor cancer death; obviously, as everyone notes, only the first two Terminator movies are really good, and the rest are mixed bags to say the least. I enjoyed T3 less as a follow up to T2, and more of fun sci fi action movie. I didn't find Mutt's death insulting, since I had no attachment to the character; he was an annoying studio note in the first place (youth, young person, cool, rides bikes, swings with monkeys, kids!), so why would I care if he is discarded due to another studio note.
When it comes to (INDIANA JONES) character (Mutt Williams) I strongly feel he deserves to return in the franchise. I suggest he returns in a show, I imagine a scenario in which in an alternate reality, MUTT didn’t die, but instead he was assumed dead at one point, and during that time he was in a coma do to intense injuries. But then later he awakens from the coma, then had to do rehab for him to fully recover, and while recovering he contacted his parents.
Jake Blues - The Blues Brothers & 2K: Obviously John Belushi was long dead so the character couldn't return, but the entire movie it's never said how it happened. Granted, the warden probably tells Elwood, but we don't hear the conversation. Also, if the warden and guards knew, it's unacceptable that Elwood was never told.
I always thought it happened outside the prison possibly either Jake died in the hospital, the woman whom he left at the altar finished the job, or he got killed on a gig. The point wasn't to concentrate on his death but to morn his absence as Elwood built a new family
That was actually kind of funny. He spent a movie dodging everything known to man. Then, after he thinks he’s all clear, he gets off’d by a random brick falling on him.
Most of those death has to do with the horrible "sad old man" trope. Lazy writes do not know how to motivated old character whose stories got a good resolution, so, they kill someone important as to put the character in the sad old man place whose life has to be fix, thus having a reason for the movie to exist. Ever since Logan was a success almost all legacy sequels. Ironic, the one who did not do it, was the most succesufull one. Maverick. At the star of the movie Maverick life is not perfect, for sure. But he is not a sad old man. He is doing a job that he loves, he still friends with Iceman, in fact, seems to be a friend of the family, he did not rise to the ranks but had a very full career (and lets be honest, Maverick is a lot happier as a captain than as an admiral) and still shockinly, they found a wya to motivated the character. Did hollywood learn their lesson since? Off course not, more sad old man in every franchise possible.
Sometimes people get way to attached to stuff we didn't need more Sara Connor she was awesome and her story was finished, the third movie didn't suffer due to the choice to kill her off and if anything that was the last terminator movie that felt like it belonged in the franchise even a Lil bit
I don't think Sam is dead. They never really say he died. I get that they made the reveal he was the last living Witwicky, but its likely he just walked away. Either way, eventually they'll prolly recast and retcon.
I never intended on watching Indy 5 but after hearing that they outright killed Mutt when they could have just ignored him AND ruined his marrage with Roxanne a second time I'm glad I never gave it the time or money.
7:33 remember, nothing disney made is canon if we don’t let it be. One day her real story will be told along with the rest of starwars and Disneys legacy will be erased. Just hold hold out a little longer and don’t watch anything disney related. Let Deadpool 3 be the last.
10:08 oh so I guess you guys are including non- canonical “sequels” too? I still don’t think big budget Kathleen Kennedy fan fiction should be in the number one spot though
Clerks 3 is the best trilogy movie/ending saga of all time. Killing her off, off screen was fitting because of the hospital scene and the dialogue of Dante about the incident. Have to disagree with you that one… maybe it should be somewhere on this list, but not as high as it is.
Im so tired of hearing about Shaw from prometheous! If its not her...its Newt and Hicks from Aliens! Are there no other examples of being killed off screen besides these 3?
Any chance you have to kill Shia le Bouf off screen you take it he guy is horrible although the ham fisted way done in transformers does show how shitty of a writer Michael bay it
Yea they need to that to sidney from scream unbelievsble she survived 9 serial killers its highky immpossibke in a movie and real life they need to get rid of her fr
Sarah Connors doesn't belong on this list. Cancer being the reason made sense, the only thing that could stop Sarah Connor was Sarah Connor. Not the machines. Even in death, she's still fighting with her casket being full of weapons.
Elizabeth Shaw was an excellent replacement for Ellen Ripley but the STUPID director had to choose that unbearable, pretentious, super-gay, and plot-killing robot that not only ruined the movie but also ruined all the Alien canon.
In Transformers 4 when Optimus wakes up he's yelling for Sam to run. That combined with all the bullet holes in Optimus' body means Sam's death was always pretty obvious. Especially since when they were talking about hunting down the Autobots they specifically mentioned killing off their sympathizers to draw them out.
Oh damn that’s messed up.
Nice headcannon there buddy😒
Actually there dialogue if you seriously listen to. The scene
And then proceed to not mention Sam again in that movie
@@lesterantenor1026 shut up.
If there’s a top ten of the insulting ways in which a dead character is brought back, ‘Somehow Palpatine returned’ should be number one.
All I'm saying is it makes sense for the character to say that. He doesn't know how he's alive.
Granted, it's explained in the novelization, and there was apparently a deleted scene film where it actually its explained how Palpatine "lived".
Spoilers, it's like 90% the same as it was in legends with a few details and location changes.
In legends, Palpatine transferred his consciousness to a clone body. I agree with theautomator that it makes sense the character wouldn't know, but I think they still should've explained it in the movie at some point for those who don't know the backstory. Plus, iirc, legends isn't cannon anymore, so really any reason could work
You can quite literally make this list just based around the X-Men films.
Rosario Dawson was filming Star Wars stuff during the time Clerks III was shot. It was a scheduling issue….but Becky’s death is a vital reason for why Dante is so willing to risk everything for a person he loves who almost died. There’s no way he puts up his half of the stores for collateral for Randall’s movie if Becky and his child are alive. Also, the scene with Brian and Rosario leaving the movie theatre…so heartbreaking, but sweet. Dante can finally rest. There are only days off now.
Kevin Smith said he couldnt afford to use her for more than they did
How did Newt and Hicks deaths between Aliens and Alien 3 not make the list?!
It's been a while, but I believe they were in the original list.
They were on the first list.
@Acnologia120ship crashed due malfunction e.g. face huggers got into the pod.
Because they were on the other list
You didn't watch part 1 and publicly admitted it
Honestly I kind of like that they killed off Sarah Connor after T2 since it shows that she got a peaceful death. She ultimately got what she was fighting for in that timeline. Though I know it didn't last but that's time travel stories.
"Peaceful"? She died of Cancer. the most debilitating painful disease I can imagine. Cancer is not a good nor peaceful way to go out.
@@Stuart267 relative to dying in the robot takeover it still is a peacetime death. Showing her life had meaning and she didn't do everything she did for nothing.
@@urahara64360 At least that would be quick lol. I have seen people with cancer, one lady literally vomited a fountain of blood. They had her out on the ward because rooms were too full & the days I was there visiting someone the lady was either crying in pain or put in an induced coma, at the end she just made an inhuman noise & was convulsing on her back before she projectile vomited a ton of blood out of her body before passing
Some of these it's hard to get upset about, since they were hardly big players in their respective series. Aurra Sing? Unless you watched Clone Wars, she's not even a footnote in Star Wars lore. And even in Clone Wars, she's not a particularly engaging character.
Even tho it sucked to kill off the Hellfire Club and a few others from First Class, it worked as a reason for Mystique and Magneto’s desire for revenge against Trask since he was responsible for their torture and murders and to continue using their remains for experimentation. I think it was a little more personal for Mystique because they were her friends, plus one of them was the father of her child.
I don’t disagree with you but I think it would have been better to show this plot development and not just tell.
@@judgegrinch1139 yeah that is a good point
Damn Shia Lebouf Died twice in this video lol
Meanwhile Constantine was like, yea fuck this guy
The death of Becky in Clerks 3 was really difficult for me to accept or even understand. I mean Rosario Dawson was still in that movie as Becky. But the fact that they killed her off sometime after Clerks 2 was really screwed. And being that time has passed near the end of 2 during the montage where Randal and Dante were rebuilding the Quickstop and shows Becky well ahead in her pregnancy meant she died very shortly after that film. It's just mind-boggling.
The point was to show that Dante, who spent most of his life hating his job, in grief and only had a small circle of friends, at the end of the day looking back he saw himself as having a great life. If you kept Becky and her child alive and changes the story. As someone who doesn't have kids, doesn't expect to find someone to share my life with, has had loss and grief and loneliness the ending hit harder because in a lot of ways I am like Dante.
The only thing I liked about that was it opened the door for Dante to get back with Veronica
Rosario Dawson was way too busy to be filming. I think he only had her for one day, that's why shes barely in it.
Smith wanted to make a comment on real life and loss after his near fatal heart attack. He also wanted to give Dante a final goodbye and with the loss of his family plus seeing Randall will be okay with his new surrogate family let him leave in peace
@@tarzangief only people who have suffered real loss would get the message of the movie. Plus as someone who has had brushes with death it brings a kind of awakening that happy endings are just premature ones
Tank's death was entirely the actors fault.
Didn't he also raid the craft service tables during the sequel filming just to spite everyone?
Agreed.
I thought the death of Meryl Streep's character was actually done well in Mama Mia 2. We still got to see Donna at the end as a spirit/vision at her grandson's Christening, showing the bond with her daughter Sophie and others. It also framed why there were so many "flashbacks" And her offscreen death had impact throughout the whole movie on multiple characters. I wouldn't call it a lousy death, but a well done one given the circumstances. And if a lousy death, certainly not a number three (or 13 if you look at the first list as the top 10) lousy death.
Clerks III DESTROYED me😫 Like really, Kevin Smith🤨
I just watched it again today and I still can't handle the end. So brutally sad!
I saw it in the theater then went home and listened to "Welcome to the Black Parade" and cried for hours😢
SERIOUSLY HOLLYWOOD
Same here.
A younger cousin that I grew up with and looked out for introduced me to the 'Clerks' movies and the 'View Askewniverse'.
....He's gone now and 'Clerks 2' was the last 'Askewnivese' movie we watched together.
I figured that I'd watch 'Clerks 3' and have a happy cry.
D-FUCKING-STROYED me.
Awe man,just watched it last week😢
My biggest annoyance of this nature is The Krakkon in Pirates of the Caribbean. In 2 it is the big scary weapon but in 3 it has just been killed off. How?? Always felt they had no idea how to do it or the cost of the CG would have been too high.
Wow, if I had a nickel for every time a character played by Shia LaBeouf, got killed off screen in huge movie series, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened TWICE, right?
Angel from First Class deserved to die. She jumped ship too easily and I personally just didn't like her. The fact that the other mutants didn't lie low or have any warning before their deaths was just pathetic.
I personally really liked Mutt when Crystal Skull came out as a kid and now being in my early 20’s I’m kinda sad and shocked to find out of his fate I would never have wished this upon Indi and I would have liked to have seen Mutt go on his own adventures.
I personally would've liked if mutt followed in his fathers footsteps not as an archaeologist or adventurer but as a spy. They hinted at indies military career in the same movie. I felt #5 was the movie nobody asked for and the box office showed that
I didn't particularly like Mutt in Crystal Skull. That said, maybe he would have made the disastrous fifth film more bearable 🤷♂️
Same bro. I liked Mutt and I believed he coulda carried the Indy name.
People suck and just want the same ol crap shoved down their face every time
Resident Evil for me, they finally unite the survivors at the end of Retribution, just for Alice to take the lead again in Final
Chapter.
Not even explaining how the survivors died off, instead the novelization gruesomely killed the survivors in one fell swoop via a biomass. To which none of the survivors have been killed off in a game entry.
It could really be argued that Paul WS Anderson and Milla Jovovich hijacked the Resident Evil franchise for exposure. As the film franchise and stunt work centers around Jovovich’s character. They basically used the franchise as their own personal portfolio for the sci-fi industry.
Which worked because Paul would go on to direct Monster Hunter with Jovovich at the helm there too. Their daughter was also cast as a younger Natasha Romanoff in Black Widow.
If they wanted to they could always pull the "Mutt wasn't actually dead', but a POW" angle if they really wanted to. They probably won't, but with the vagueness of what actually happened leaves it as an option.
The most insluiting off screen death was the end of Resident Evil Retribution. Jill, Ada, Leon and Becky all die. Off screen.... all to further Alice's story
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No it's not reasonable to assume the character just decided to do whatever somewhere else in Zion. That would be more disrespectful to a character that presumably has some level of conviction towards Morpheus and his beliefs as well as the rest of the crew. A character like Tank would continue to follow his crew.
arguably it would've been plenty good to have had Tank retire to teach others or train others due to his injury.
It would've been a fantstic explaination for why so much of Morpheus and Neo became such a viral sensation to zion...when the leader ship didn't really like them much and it was heavily implied it was a word of mouth that spread it through neo rescuing but Morpheus was before.
I would've liked the implcations that tank and others were pushing for them at home the whole time they were out. Since most of the folks they actually rescue in the matrix are out of zion on ships too.. so it always felt a bit weird. Even considering rescued folks go to Zion generally.
They needed a home team to really push that.
I think Marvel mutants EMMA FROST, ANGEL SALVADORE, RIPTIDE, AZAZEL, BANSHEE, DARWIN, & more.
All these mutants characters deserve to be in the M.C.U. movies, and in the M.C.U. shows.
Banshee would've been a perfect fit for the show The Gifted, and you probably would've gotten a backstory on him as well. and you'd most likely know if he had his family or not too, in X-Men: First Class you don't even know if he has his family at all and I have a major problem with that.
In my opinion January did a great job at playing Emma with the small role she got and her few lines as well
The whole clerks 3 movie is a gut punch. I cried and laughed throughout
I’m surprised Transformers even got mentioned, that franchise has zero regard for continuity and each successive sequel has blithely steamrolled the last.
5:27 the only thing that was “crushed” in that film was the hearts of the diehard Terminator fans.
Either it's needed or they couldn't get the actor back
But if you have good writing it'll only better the story
Aurra Sing was simply implied that she was killed off, Beckett said he pushed her and followed that with pretty sure she was dead. Did Beckett strip of her gear before pushing her off or the fact that it was implicated she was force sensetive. Plus this was all done off screen so meh, don't believe she's dead until Disney and Lucasfilm confirm it.
It's Disney. Even if they showed her body being cremated, then her ashes flushed down a toilet, you can rest assured she'll reappear alive and well whenever the story needs to "subvert expectations."
If it’s Disney canon then it is not real canon.
@@peterkrochmalni673 The EU wasn't real canon, too
@@DeltaArc1136 bite your tongue.
@@DeltaArc1136 the Expanded Universe was as real canon as Disney wished it ever could’ve been. And was never handled as a piece of shit as what Disney canon currently is.
EU > Disney
EU = real canon. Disney = fake canon
EU = love. Disney = hatred
EU = for the fans. Disney = disdain for the fans
I think Kickboxer 2 should hold the top spot despite having one of the best comeback plots in a movie.
Although Hagen is sorely missed in Godfather 3, I still think its a pretty good film. The studio should have given Duvall what he wanted.
Ridley Hack made Alien Covenant out of spite. It also needs to be noted that he suddenly rushed this movie into production after the Blomkamp idea for Alien 3 was gaining a huge amount of momentum by fans. He has now recently started whining about how he wished he made the Blade Runner sequel instead. This is his fault. He has no one else to blame. Alien Covenant is not only one of the worst movies of the last decade, but it also ruins Prometheus. Prometheus was strongly flawed in its script, but it had interesting ideas. A potential sequel could have built up on these ideas if done properly, but Ridley Hack put this pretentious garbage out that is clearly not what he had initially set up with Prometheus.
With his awful Alien prequels, & other trash like Hannibal, it is obvious that Gladiator 2 is going to be more rubbish. Not to mention that the original film, while enjoyable, is still a cut & dry revenge story with one note characters that doesn't warrant a sequel.
I agree with everything you said except that Godfather III was a pretty good film. It was not.
Honestly having sarah conner die of luekema was fine to me. She died of natural causes (albiet one caused by....the various robots breaches). but the idea of Sarah Conner dying in relative peace (cancer sucks its not peaceful but i mean not in a war scene) is kind of good for her character at that point in time.
The death of Becky in clerks 3 added more depth to the story. When he decides to follow her into the hereafter it was a final goodbye we needed to end the clerks franchise. As a husband and father if my family were taken from me I would lose myself too
This list seems a bit nitpickyy. Not every death needs an explanation no matter how important or favored the character was. Not everything needs to be explained. Sometimes it could ruin pacing or change a story just to keep a character in just to kill them off and since most of the actors in here were problematic Im not sure what people were expecting the studios to do. Grit their teeth and bare with a troublesome performer and risk the whole production?
Besides, I actually liked how Alien Covenant did it. It was an intriguing shock and added to the menace of the android to learn he had turned long before the movie started.
Covenant was fucking terrible, and the Shaw killing was stupid as hell
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I wasn't sure how Tank died. Sure he was injured but it looked like he was going to be okay.
Shia LaBeouf said three transformers was enough? Well he's not wrong. It looks like Transformers have been milking their franchise since some of their movies really sucked. Rise of the Beasts was okay.
Why did Linda Hamilton return to the Terminator franchise later?
Mamma Mia! was not a good movie. Why have a sequel?
9:12 Now that is messed up O_o.
10:08 I was going to mention that. Can't say I'm surprised. That movie was mediocre. Indiana Jones was obviously too old for this shit and I think Harrison Ford injured himself while throwing a punch. He didn't fight much in that movie either. Even though he was old in Crystal Skull he wasn't too old to put up a good fight. Dial of Destiny should be the last one. To be honest it should have ended with the third one since that ending was so good. Crystal Skull and especially Dial of Destiny was unnecessary.
Dial of destiny was completely unnecessary
Absurd. Mutt's death wasn't insulting; LeBeouf's own behavior ruined his career and besides, a character dying in the Viet Nam war is hardly surprising, or insulting.
Tank’s off screen death was extremely insulting in my opinion.
For Mutt Williams’ death, all I want to say to the Indiana Jones fans is, well, you hated the character so the filmmakers listened to you and got rid of him. So why even complain when you wanted Mutt gone from the franchise since his introduction in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?
Well said. I don't understand the hatred for the character
@@journeysands2622 I actually did not like the character for a different reason than most. They did the same thing with MacGyver. They made a character that was suave and dashing and a hit with the ladies and then they forgot to have him settle down and have a family so they retconned in an illegitimate child. It makes the guy look like a deadbeat who didn't bother to check in on the girls he knocked up. Why couldn't they just have started Crystal Skull with him already divorced from Marion and aware he had a son. They hadn't made a movie in so long they could've had Indy have gotten up to anything but they chose to have him still doing the same thing and unmarried and then they felt bad about their own decision. It's not Mutt I hate, but the way they brought Indy down by adding him.
@@sanddagger36Interesting take. I think Indy may not have been ready to settle down and that is why Marion hid him. He stepped up when he discovered Mutt didn't he? I didn't think it brought him down in any way.
Hey, from our names, we are all Sand people hehehe.
@@journeysands2622 I found the character funny. It was a clear rip off of Fonzie from Happy Days with other silliness thrown in. At least he wasnt screaming all the time like Willie from Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom.
@@TiaraStarbrighter Well, according to the filmmakers, you SHOULD be happy Mutt is dead because they actually listened to the criticisms from the fans regarding the character and did away with him so you never have to see him again.
Well Clerks 3, Rosaria Dawson was in the movie, her being killed off was sad but I think it was a major part of the story and made for a better movie. I went into clerks 3 not expecting much and left feeling kind of moved and thought it was pretty well done (which is a surprise for Kevin Smith movies).
If a (MATRIX) show series gets made someday; I think characters like that of TANK, they deserve to have a longer showcase in each season of it.
Amazing video Ellie Littlechild from what culture of insulting characters killed off in sequels movies,fantastic job.
Tom Hagen disappearing wasn't so surprising when you remember Clemenza didn't make it to GODFATHER PART II;
not so much a death, since she didn't get mentioned in the sequel, but why didn't Sue from HOPE AND GLORY last into QUEEN AND COUNTRY?
They did Singh dirty. the OG A. SIngh was a padawan that fell to the dark side and became a bounty hunter. She was powerful enough to give Qui-gon and Obi-wan a hard time and a known jedi killer. Being killed by basically a nobody, a shadow of their former self just sucks hard.
By killing off Tank, they are saying to the actor that he'll never return to the series.
Of course they would kill Indiana's son... we couldn't have an openning for a male protagonist right? And it was an excuse to make Indiana more of a depressed old guy full of frustrations(just like Luke, what a shock... it seems the same people are. responsible right?) they had to replace him witha strong female character of course...
Indi talking about Mutt was by far the best scene in Dial of Destiny period.
Killing Becky off screen made sense in the context of the movie because it allows the movie to focus on Dante's inability to move on and cope. He's a shell of his former self because he found happiness, and had it brutally ripped away from him in a tragic and sadly common way. It's not something you have to build to which wouldn't have allowed the movie to tell the story it
needed to tell, and it's not something that would have been done suddenly because then it would have started the movie off at a place where it would have been extremely difficult to come back from IE killing off a beloved character in a brutal act of violence mere moments into the movie's start. So yea, killing off Becky makes sense, and its not as if she doesn't appear in the movie. She's just not "alive".
He was just existing no longer living. Even Dante's death forced Randall to grow
So many of the features movies are forgettable money-grabs so it’s no surprise that the writers and producers cut corners in production.
Mutts death was just an excuse to downplay Indy in his own movie and prop up Fleabag as his replacement. Though Kennedy DID have to reshoot the terrible ending with Indy dying the damage was already done. Hell, George Lucas made it pretty clear he had no respect for Kennedy by intentionally leaving her out of his speach where, despite being right next to him on stage, he congratulated the OTHER people he’d worked with in the past.
Clerks III was great, the ending was so good and it couldn't have happened without Becky's death
Clerks 3 was trash. Kevin Smith sold out to Hollywood & in turn his career was cursed. The film was cringe, unfunny & badly acted from start to finish.
@@Stuart267how did Smith sell out to Hollywood W/Clerks III? Did you see Mallrats? Do you know nothing of how it was mismanaged? How Hollywood producers meddled with it? Clerks III was mostly done as a Smith speaking tour, with a limited theatrical run.
@@bigfatgoalie316 Kevin Smith is now a woke prlck who preaches from the woketard handbook, Only reason I bothered watching the 3rd film is simply because the original is one of my all time favourite movies & the sequel although many didn't like it I personally loved it.
Clerks 3 was so bad I don't remember laughing even once, the "comedy" was forced as hell too.
I didnt even KNOW there was a part III. I only found out about part II a few years ago, still havent got around to watching it yet. And there's a documentary about the guy who plays Silent Bob(forget his name) called Clerk too. Came out 2021.
@@starscreamthecruel8026 Kevin Smith he was great at one time. Do yourself a favour & avoid the 3rd film its not funny & just destroys all the beloved characters from the films.
It says a lot that two Shia characters were killed off. I don't know if it says more about the writers or the public's opinion on Shia, but it says something.
Killing off characters is a often to see failure to see when it comes to Hollywood lazy writing. The writing school teaches such a story implication would bring drive and momentum ... but it's just lazy writing for absent cast, Budget problems or just idealess thinking of solving such difficultys
January Jones was a jerk and tried to extort money out of her baby daddy. Then when the judge told her that wasn’t allowed, she was basically throwing a fit and then was being a jerk so they fired her from the X-Men franchise. Even the kids who played her kids on Mad Men said she was awful to work with. I have no sympathy for someone like that.
Shia was being a total punk. He blamed Steven Spielberg for his downfall when Steven called him the next Tom Hanks and praised him. Shia sank his own career and was also saying he never wanted to do Transformers again saying it destroyed his career. Once again, no sympathy.
Edward Furlong. Wow he flushed his career down the toilet. He had so much potential and what did he do? He got hooked on drugs and became an abusive piece of trash. Sorry, but even his on screen fate in Terminator: Dark Fate was too good for him. I don’t respect Edward Furlong and he is refusing to pay child support. He’s instead spending his time abusing drugs and abusing his frequent gf Monica Keena. Not being funny, that’s what he is doing. He had a restraining order against him for beating her up, only to be found with her coming out of a restaurant, flaunting that he doesn’t care what the rules are.
Oh and lastly with January Jones, she wasn’t even supposed to play Emma Frost. That was going to be Alice Eve but she bowed out due to scheduling and not being happy with the character.
Shia Labeouf is crazy but not stupid. He saw the script and knew it was a bomb and didn't want it on his carrier.
i have feelings on number 4. on the one hand, she's the kind of character that, if you don't see the body, don't count them as dead. on the other hand, that movie was horrible, and i refuse to consider it lore. so either way, she's alive.
First class should have been a new timeline than a solf reboot lets hope Transformers don't make that same mistakes since paramount still say bumblebee and rotb a prequel
January Jones is straight up one of the worst actors in Hollywood.
It worked in Mad Men, where she was playing a character who was cold, detached, distant, and wooden. But how often do you need a character fitting that description?
@@user-mg5mv2tn8q Exactly she is the definition of one note. Blew my mind when I watched First Class 1st time round, all these actors giving great performances & then there is her
Okay but with spoilers the clerks III one is’t really fair, it’s super helpful for the story and character development. Yes it would have been better to even get a token car crash scene, but where do you put it?
How about a video on the opposite spectrum on interesting ways characters were included post-actors-passing?
I totally agree with the bullshit of killing X-Men characters between movies that infuriated me
of course it's bullshit how they were killed off, can't blame you for being infuriated by it. I didn't like Angel Salvadore that much because she was a traitor, but she still didn't deserve to be mutilated like she was and the same with the other mutants.
I don't think Sam Witwicky's death was "insulting" per se, since every story beat in Bay's Transformers series is insulting; couldn't even keep narrative and world-building continuity between films, so hardly surprisingly the ostensible protagonist was eventually forgotten, too.
I didn't mind the Sarah Connor cancer death; obviously, as everyone notes, only the first two Terminator movies are really good, and the rest are mixed bags to say the least. I enjoyed T3 less as a follow up to T2, and more of fun sci fi action movie.
I didn't find Mutt's death insulting, since I had no attachment to the character; he was an annoying studio note in the first place (youth, young person, cool, rides bikes, swings with monkeys, kids!), so why would I care if he is discarded due to another studio note.
Let's be honest, Rise of the Machines is the best "third installment" The Terminator sequels have to offer.
When it comes to (INDIANA JONES) character (Mutt Williams) I strongly feel he deserves to return in the franchise.
I suggest he returns in a show, I imagine a scenario in which in an alternate reality, MUTT didn’t die, but instead he was assumed dead at one point, and during that time he was in a coma do to intense injuries.
But then later he awakens from the coma, then had to do rehab for him to fully recover, and while recovering he contacted his parents.
Anybody gonna explain who the girl in the thumbnail is and what she has to do with the video?
Jake Blues - The Blues Brothers & 2K: Obviously John Belushi was long dead so the character couldn't return, but the entire movie it's never said how it happened. Granted, the warden probably tells Elwood, but we don't hear the conversation. Also, if the warden and guards knew, it's unacceptable that Elwood was never told.
I always thought it happened outside the prison possibly either Jake died in the hospital, the woman whom he left at the altar finished the job, or he got killed on a gig. The point wasn't to concentrate on his death but to morn his absence as Elwood built a new family
@@hellhound1389 Of course it happened outside the prison because Elwood would have known if it was inside.
Newt and Hicks from Aliens!!!
What about Alex getting killed off in some pathetic way after Final Destination, and in the sequel being mentioned he was skilled by a “falling brick”
That was actually kind of funny. He spent a movie dodging everything known to man. Then, after he thinks he’s all clear, he gets off’d by a random brick falling on him.
@@MalakMacabreI still can't believe that a brick was the one that got him.
No bull
Most of those death has to do with the horrible "sad old man" trope. Lazy writes do not know how to motivated old character whose stories got a good resolution, so, they kill someone important as to put the character in the sad old man place whose life has to be fix, thus having a reason for the movie to exist. Ever since Logan was a success almost all legacy sequels. Ironic, the one who did not do it, was the most succesufull one. Maverick. At the star of the movie Maverick life is not perfect, for sure. But he is not a sad old man. He is doing a job that he loves, he still friends with Iceman, in fact, seems to be a friend of the family, he did not rise to the ranks but had a very full career (and lets be honest, Maverick is a lot happier as a captain than as an admiral) and still shockinly, they found a wya to motivated the character. Did hollywood learn their lesson since? Off course not, more sad old man in every franchise possible.
What about Newt and Cpl. Hicks from Aliens?
They were on the first list.
Now let's wait for SCREAM on how they're gonna kill Sam and Tara's character in the future installment considering what they did to Melissa Barrera.
Personally I’m glad they killed off Mutt. He was annoying in the fourth film, and I cringed at the idea of the torch being passed onto him.
Aurra sing was killed off screen by Beckett Mariner? Best cross over ever😬
I strongly feel that the character (Sam Witwicky) from the TRANSFORMERS movies, deserves to be reintroduced someday.
Sometimes people get way to attached to stuff we didn't need more Sara Connor she was awesome and her story was finished, the third movie didn't suffer due to the choice to kill her off and if anything that was the last terminator movie that felt like it belonged in the franchise even a Lil bit
Tank was handled well due to how he handled real life
I don't think Sam is dead. They never really say he died. I get that they made the reveal he was the last living Witwicky, but its likely he just walked away.
Either way, eventually they'll prolly recast and retcon.
It's always jarring to Ellie outside of Who and Trek Culture
I never intended on watching Indy 5 but after hearing that they outright killed Mutt when they could have just ignored him AND ruined his marrage with Roxanne a second time I'm glad I never gave it the time or money.
7:33 remember, nothing disney made is canon if we don’t let it be.
One day her real story will be told along with the rest of starwars and Disneys legacy will be erased. Just hold hold out a little longer and don’t watch anything disney related.
Let Deadpool 3 be the last.
Hicks and Newt from Aliens
In the book of terminator salvation, Sarah is killed when her convoy is attacked by terminators.
Now that I think about it, Indy's son got FRIDGED. See that? It doesn't just happen to women!
Thé decepticons finally got him
I just hope Elizabeth Shaw made the cut
Great, now explain the thumbnail.
10:08 oh so I guess you guys are including non- canonical “sequels” too? I still don’t think big budget Kathleen Kennedy fan fiction should be in the number one spot though
Clerks 3 is the best trilogy movie/ending saga of all time. Killing her off, off screen was fitting because of the hospital scene and the dialogue of Dante about the incident. Have to disagree with you that one… maybe it should be somewhere on this list, but not as high as it is.
No the movie sucks ass and was made out of spite, Clerks 3 was a giant middle finger to fans by the new woke idiot Kevin Smith has become.
I was pissed about it when they first showed it in the movie, but as the movie progressed and how it fit into the story and everything was so good
Aurra Singh was in Phantom menace???😮
There was Mama Mia 2?!
Im so tired of hearing about Shaw from prometheous! If its not her...its Newt and Hicks from Aliens! Are there no other examples of being killed off screen besides these 3?
They killed off Witwicky?……….yaaayyyy!😂😂
Any chance you have to kill Shia le Bouf off screen you take it he guy is horrible although the ham fisted way done in transformers does show how shitty of a writer Michael bay it
Yea they need to that to sidney from scream unbelievsble she survived 9 serial killers its highky immpossibke in a movie and real life they need to get rid of her fr
Godfather 3 not only killed off the Hagan character, it killed off the franchise. What a piece of shite ... (the movie, I mean)
T3 was a masterpiece next to dark fate. She needed the $$$$$$$
Sarah Connors doesn't belong on this list. Cancer being the reason made sense, the only thing that could stop Sarah Connor was Sarah Connor. Not the machines. Even in death, she's still fighting with her casket being full of weapons.
What about alex in final destination 2
they only made 2 terminator films, why were you talking about a third and a sixth over blank video?
Elizabeth Shaw was an excellent replacement for Ellen Ripley but the STUPID director had to choose that unbearable, pretentious, super-gay, and plot-killing robot that not only ruined the movie but also ruined all the Alien canon.
Becky could have died. If we are at 15 years later cast HARLEY as his child! She IS. Oh, edit. Forgot she was Jay's kid already! Use Mewes kid!
Tank and Becky and Aura Sing deserved better
Shia Lebouf did not