King David & Bathsheba: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - until now
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Was prophet Nathan wrong in refuting King David? It seems so per your narrative. Was King David's repentance and the death of his first child from Bathsheba was a show? Please do put some light with references. Also let us know the evidence of soldiers divorcing their wives before going on a war.
Amazing. When I was young I grew up in Chabad and attended Hebrew school. My parents were one way at Chabad and completely different at home. It shook my faith completely. By the time I was a teen (they were divorced) and I had strayed so far from my teachings. I knew right from wrong but I simply stopped caring. What was the point in being and doing good if the good are always in pain. I found that I had more fun being bad and getting away with it. I am now in my 30’s trying to remember the goodness from my childhood, getting in contact with the Chabad near me, and trying to come to terms with my sins. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t ask G-d for forgiveness and yet feel unworthy of His kindness towards me. I will never stop apologizing because I knew right from wrong. It is good to know sometimes the good is concealed behind the bad and I hope He sees that in me one day.
I'm not understanding why Nathan would speak of the parable to David if all of what you are saying was supposed to be obvious to those around David. The laws were given to show that no one can be good enough to follow them and redeem himself, David as well with his reputation of being an exceptional man. Maybe that is why he was tempted beyond his own strength to show that our Father did not want him killed but used as an example.
When you’re sorrounded or in other words grow up with everyone believing in their own goodness of not being sinners and feel alone, it gives a false sense of relief learning afterwards that someone so great and holy did what he did. Thank You for revealing yet another layer of truthful teaching ❤️ Torah
That is a very eye-openning explanation.
Thank you teacher. God bless you.
We are still interested in King David because he was transparent before G-d in the face of the prophet Nathan's rebuke.
I am very please to listen to you and very very great full to my creator to lead me to a servant whose teachings served me well. The grâce of the Lord is upon us to lead us to him. Thank you Rabbi
The “theme “ of King David’s story is about David ‘s humility and the ever readiness of God’s forgiveness available to us when we repent. No sin is too big for God to forgive if we choose to be forgiven. God also equip us with strength to leave / throw our old sinful ways permanently and become-renewed. It also shows the spiritual growth which comes from this package- from this wonderful relationship.
🙏🙏💕from Ethiopia
We know King David repented, but what about uriah's wife and children born through king David, why were they punished for no reason. Doesn't make sense.
bathsheba also sinned but she repented by giving birth to the child also the child dying isn't necessarily the child being punished
Thank you. Judah sinned as well in a similar fashion. Rabbi Friedman is correct about putting Jewish saviors like Moses in a very low profile, poor family. They put him in a basket and an Egyptian princess saved him. Judah slept with his daughter-in-law, Tamar, unbeknownst to Judah. When Judah found out he acknowledged his sin and asked for forgiveness. Jewish leaders are imperfect as all humans are. All people have blemishes. King David was born to Jesse’s house where he was the youngest brother and given the job of shepherding his father’s flock. Some say he was born to another mother. The other brothers were part of the Jewish upper crust at the time. Moses was also a shepherd. Joseph was sold into slavery and climbed the ladder of success in Egypt. Yes sometimes you have to fool the devil and his friends lest they come for our leaders. Abraham was put in hiding the first ten years of his life because he was being hunted by the country in power because his monotheism was antithetical to their beliefs. Sinning and admitting publicly requires humility without which the king believes himself to be G-d.
A story may or may not have a theme.
The account of David and Bathsheeba is just that, a factual accounting of history and does not need 1 or more themes. Accounts are not fabricated from a pre-chosen theme.
I guess some sins are too big considering there was a flood...
So I suppose Noah didnt get drunk, Moses never killed a man, Abraham never slept with Hagar, and Adam never fell? I'm thankful God saves sinners.
the man is off his laurels
Amazing what happens with the intellectuals. I have heard many great sermons on this ( Alistair Begg is one ) but this is not even in the realm of belief. Entertaining as are plenty Rabbis are of explaining Jewish thought, most I find interesting to explore what can be inferred. But I like to stay biblical and this sound out there,kinda like a defense lawyer throwing everything but the kitchen sink in. I mean Nathan more than explained it by the poor little ewe
Lamb, " despised the commandment of the Lord, to evil in His sight, " thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword,and hast taken his wife to be thy wife,and hast slain him with the sword." That being said,I know if I committed a horrendous crime I'm calling Rabbi.Maybe David should of got one like him in his kingdom to speak to Nathan on his behalf.....But I think Nathan nailed it.
You missed the whole point
We learn that the scripture is The Word of God. I can't see this information about Uriel comitting treason in Scripture.. And actually God punished David for killing Uriel by killing his first son with Batsheba. If David did not do anything wrong God killed an innocent child for nothing? From where do you have this information?
God saves sinners..If you REPENT! 🙏
Some of what I've heard from you I have found interesting and thought provoking at least. I have to be honest, this commentary sounds mostly like nonsense. It sounds like we're supposed to read a story and if the characters are imperfect in some way, then we should make up some ridiculous meaning into it to make them look perfect.
If I gave you a choice of a ripe banana and a rotten banana, but I hid the ripe one in a box so you didn't know what it was, I'm not enhancing your freedom of choice. Rather I'm limiting your knowledge of the choices. Being able to see how much better one choice is than another is actually the opposite of eliminating freedom of choice.
We revere imperfect people all of the time because we understand that in the midst of their imperfection, they show unusual persistence in overcoming those imperfections and revealing other admirable character traits like humility or bravery or long-suffering. I don't see any need to make up things in order to make everyone we admire look faultless.
🙏 well said
@@anitalexander do you know white pple cannot dance. king davdid dance until his cloth come off because he was black but they dont want to admit he was black just as the rabi try to cover up in this explantion of adultery. first why jesse he send his small child a beloved last born age 7 yrs old to take care of sheeps? who puts a small child in the harm where bears try to attcack him? because they say jesse had a african american housemaid and he make her pregnent end the child born is black. but in those day they call mix race person ruddy. because the complexion is smooth and bright yellow.
How is murder perfect lol
Good Day Rabbi - I love the way you add context to these stories (Adam and Eve in particular). If David was not guilty - why later did the prophet tell the story of a rich man who took even the last goat of a poor man - and then tell David the man who did this was him. I’ve always thought the prophet was using this story yo describe King David’s bad decision with Bethsheba
Spot on buddy...I have heard a lot about these Rabbis..I believe the true word of God lies in the Bible and I won't confuse myself...As for your question am beginning to doubt Rabbi Friedman
Rabbi, can you answer this question?
King David sinned. God confirmed it through Nathan and the evil that descended on David's family was a confirmatiin of this. Absolom's sins etc.
He coveted the womanand stayed home when he should have been at war. Beta male!
Why King David said to Uriah "Then David said to Uriah, “Go down to your house and wash your feet.”(2 Samuel 11/2) , if Beth Shaba was woman whose divorced from her Husband. Why king David sent message to Joab please sent Uriah fierce place of war where he would simply died.
That's a pretty fanciful argument there Rabbi about King david. Then why does Nathan show up to chastise him? And why is his kingdom split into pieces? Why a civil war?
perfect question, you just asked what i was about to , sorry Rabbi what you said has no biblical support , start reading isaiah 53 to your synagog members
Humans relish war and ego driven glory. There is very little care about anyone. As for Holy G-D...He is not visible. Nor communicates with Humans anymore.
Actually, i trust rabbi friedman, and I'm not even jewish, you see he's a Jewish rabbi, we're talking about the people who g-d chose years ago, they know this stuff better than literally ANYONE ELSE, cause it's their history, besides, it makes perfect sense, if he actually committed adultery, why would we praise the man, he sinned against the Lord, and he wouldn't be remembered, the story he tells here makes perfect sense, and this is also coming from a 13 YEAR OLD BOY, WHO'S NOT JEWISH
@@poisontv2242 Well Said. Amen.
@stan smith agreed. if David did not sin, why did he cry out to God for mercy for days repenting? did the first child not die as punishment to David and Bathsheba?
we venerate David because when he did sin, he repented and was forgiven.
"I Have Found My Beloved Once Again; But Currently Were Just Friends;" Hallelu Yah!
I know a little as to why God will chose and then bless a sinner over a stoic virtuous person. A sinner may be a more adventurous and daring soul, someone who not afraid and will face adversity and will save many people.
Iif they were divorced, why woukd the King push the soldier to sleep with his wife? And if the King did not sin why did the prophet call him out?
Agree
Disagree
Thats what Rabbi exactly explains. King David cried everyday
He cried of how it looked to people. Do you really think YHWH will make Yshua a decendent of King David if he broke laws and scandal. YHWH dont make miatakes
If this is the case, then why did the prophet nathan I believe rebuke David for his actions? Sometimes our interpretations have a way of deifying our chosen characters. Interesting perspective but it's clear that we are relying on technicalities to support a theory.
Because David may not have violated halacha, but he did bend it for his own personal benefit. Others may not have been condemned for such actions, but David was held to a higher standard.
If he did not sin, Rabbi, why did God send prophet Nathan to judge and reprimand him? Or is this not part of the narrative? Pls i am just curoous
These postings all seem to be claiming the same thing - that the subject being outlined does not make sense! What I do find odd is that Psalm 51 is referred to as the one written after his adultery yet Nathan's parable clearly accused the king of murder.
LIES!
2 Samuel 11, - "The Lord was displeased with the thing that David had done".
This PROVES David's actions were not holy!
Thank you
“Why do we need to know some guy committed adultery?” I presume because it’s in Torah and Elohim has it there because HE wants us to know. So, if it’s there, it’s for our purpose.
If a nonsensical and disgusting story is in the torah, it is because someone had a lot of imagination that he changed and corrupted the word of god.
Rabi I got a question you already explained the misinterpretension of King David's adultery and the death of Urias(Bathsheba's husband) but How about the death of the first baby of King David and Bathsheba as a God's punishment? What is the interpretation of that fact?
Thanks 👍
You're asking all the right questions of a false teacher....Manis is the center of his own teaching, not G-d's Word.
Ego is a cnnt.
Why did you say this?
Because his interpretation has no biblical basis. Read the passage in the Scripture. How on earth could one get that interpretation? Divorce? Treason? The point of the book and the entires Scriptures is that God doesn’t chose the perfect. He is loving, merciful, full of kindness and faithful despite humanity’s imperfections.
@@joannegarcia6226 I agree with you. Listening to this man left me with many questions. For instance, If what David did not sin, then why does it say God was displeased with him for his actions? Why did God send Nathan to reprimand David for what he did? Why did the baby die? Also, because of David's actions, a sword was declared on his household. Why did the baby die? Regarding this man's statement about divorce, Luke 16:18 states: “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery". I would say that this also holds true in the OT. I have not done any extensive studying on this subject but thus far, I have not found articles, etc., that confirm this man's statement that soldiers divorced their wives before they went to war. I would ask that people who follow this man fully investigate his comments before they confirm them TRUTH.
The older I get, the more I realize how perfect the small set of laws are. It can be a bit hard to control yourself, especially with feelings around sex and love, but you pretty much always end up better if you learn to not objectify other people, and cherish the relationships of others. In a way, other people’s relationship are kind of your own in the sense, that we are all one spirit, and if you hurt others or ruin their things they worked hard for, it just tends to come back around to you.
There’s so much stuff under the surface that is almost always unobserved, yet has huge effects on society and the individual. Nature kind of balances itself out one way or another. These ancient laws are ancient for a reason. I think society is better when people kind of respect each other and their relationships. I had made some of my friends angry before by insulting their girlfriends, and really I was just thinking I was the center of everything.
It’s amazing how much exercising self control can teach you about yourself. Even for the ones who claim to know everything.
💯💯💯 all of this, well said fam
Thank you for sharing this.
Exactly what I needed to be reminded of.
This explanation seems pretty... poor... and I genuinely love how you explain stories of the Hebrew Bible.
Maybe David just sinned against the lord and the lord simply forgave him because he was an exceptionally holy person and the lord loved him anyway.
I'd need some sources for those historical claims being made to disprove David potentially breaking 5-6 of the 10 commandments
My interpretation is that King David failed the 3 patriarchs. "Live long enough to see yourself become the villain." Abraham and Isaac are afraid of being killed by kings (Pharaoh and Abimelech) in order for those kings to get with their wives (Sarah and Rebekah). David became what the patriarchs feared. Right after the story of Bathsheba, we have Absalom rebelling against David and Adonijah, another son of David, trying to become king. Bathsheba and Nathan help to trick David into letting Solomon become king. Of course, Solomon's sin ends up being lust and having too many wives (David taking Bathsheba is where Solomon's lust is learned from). Solomon's lust gets him in trouble and then Jeroboam from the tribe of Ephraim rules over the 10 tribes of Israel. Rehoboam only rules over the tribes of Levi, Judah and Benjamin. So really, I think Israel's sin and fall is from David taking Bathsheba in the first place. If the 12 tribes of Israel stayed together under one king, they wouldn't be conquered by a bigger empire. My point is: David taking Bathsheba from Uriah is a key moment that sets up so much disaster.
@@Ariber1 that explains nearly nothing being presented in the video. It seems like it was made up ad hoc to come up with another story altogether
@@Taylor-lm5op this is the story most pastors tell about king David. Usually bypassing that David was a rapist for abusing his kingship upon bathsheba who couldn't say no.
Beyond that. This is the a-typical story.
The presentation in the video didn't make too much sense. I never heard of soldier-divorce love legalism in Israel military before this video
Consider this. Jonathan and David had a pretty interesting relationship - maybe the most dynamic relationship in the Tanakh/Old Testament. When I read 1 Kings chapter 10, I get a similar vibe between Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Solomon did not have sex with the Queen of Sheba - it was a platonic relationship, but also transcendent, like the relationship between Jonathan and David. I don't think Solomon understood "Jonathan and David", just like how a lot of people misinterpret Jonathan and David.
@@mickj9203 Well, orthodox Jews add a lot of stuff to the Tanakh. Midrash and Talmud alter how they view the text, like with this story. In a way, Jewish commentaries re-write the Torah and Tanakh to make them mean whatever they want them to mean.
The psalm was written for repentance for God's grace and directory for us to be more humble and appropriate God for who he is... psalm 100 perfect example
I dont know what world you live in but the average person is not decent at all maybe by human standards but divorce is all time high and so is firnication adultry is everywhere
I’ve always seen David as a Man who sinned gravely, suffered as a consequence and who then spent the remainder of His life paying in humility? A Man, incomplete and imperfect, until He found His Humility? A story of ego and redemption.
It isn't a story of ego. If you knew the story, Uriah demanded to go to war, which was direct disobedience to David. Which is the opposite of David sending him to war to die. David then took care of Bathsheba his widow afterwards because he felt bad and it was the right thing to do in taking care of widows and orphans.
@@davidtabaka2663 what Bible are you reading. It is clearly said that GOD was angry against David and he killed his first born. He killed his first born bcz he was a bastard and GOD do not choose a bastard to become king. Even if I find that unfair for the baby who didn't choose to be born bastard but that are the laws of GOD.
They all lose their humility when they become kings and GOD give them a lot of power and wealth. They forgot GOD and turn to worship other gods. Thing that I can't understand, especially when you talk to GOD face to face. All written in Kings and Chronicals.
What a collection of Lies!!! -- This guy doesn't have any respect for the Torah! --Can this so called "rabbi" even read? He simply accommodates the story to his deceitful belief. And then he pretends that his interpretation is the "spiritual" one.
Sorry Mr rabbi but you've been caught being a liar.....we ALL read the story of David and we still love him anyways, guess what? He wasn't a perfect man, get over it!
I don't agree with this. The literal interpretation of scripture is just as important as metaphoric and spiritual. David is respected because he was a man of God's heart and filled with the Holy Spirit - despite being a flawed human being. God said to moses He has mercy on who He has mercy. Basically if you love God as David He'll have mercy.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
You don't understand a word of Rabbi Friedman and you still think you can agree or disagree?!?!
You do not even known what are uh saying uh must need to listen it 10 times then uh must can understand the Bible is holy then how it would contain unholy things. in the Bible everything has it 2 point of view.hope you'll understand
@@joshuashergill1186 uh, thats why i said literal is as important as other interpretations. Here's a question for you Josh: was David an historical figure?
@@dinushblau4247 ah, only peeps like you understand - total gnostic.
10:00 In which part of the Torah says the soldier committed treason? Please prove your grounds.
Without the leading of the Holy Spirit (Rusch Hakodesh) real understanding is missing.
Curious how I can find the source for the treason part? thanks for the learnings
God bless you. Is the first time that you support king David he is prophet could never sinned.
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The loophole of Judaism is so obvious after listening to this..
Why prophet Nathan Rebuke King David? About Bathsheba?
There is and there was and there will be only one person who walked this planet and who was without any sin, and that was not Kind David.
That's a different book. You are on the wrong channel.
RIP Harambe
Benjamin, son of Jacob.
I wanna know where the rabbi gets his information from.
With all due respect sir - LIES! The scriptural story of David's mistake was God teaching us lessons and the sovereignty of God.
Yeah I can't finish most of he's videos. He seems wise at first but then It's obvious he's making stuff up. Anyone who actually read the book would know this guy is lying
If HE creates everything moment to moment than how did and dose HE rest on his holy Sabbath? Remember be careful not to add to or subtract from the word lest HE adds the plagues into you or subtracts your name from the book of life
It wasn't concealed again...or else the prophet Nathan wouldn't have exposed what King David did and also showing God's displeasure.
Very very interesting
The Moschiah came 2020 years ago, but as you very wisefully say, no Jew recognised Him. This is really sad! You, Jews, have always been God's beloved people. Anyway, we really thank you for serving our Lord in His Plan of The Salvation of the human race. We all hope that we will also discover the truth one day and be able to see His face in the Kingdom of Heaven. Peace be with you!
The Bible is simple. David sinned and then he repented. That’s the key.
And hos own son payed for the sin.
@A Sojourner sure about that? the old testament has people punished for their grandfathers sins. why is that?
What is the point of the Torah.. for the life of the body is in its blood. I have given you the blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the Lord . It is the blood, given in exchange for a life, that makes purification possible.
Leviticus 17:11
@A Sojourner you're playing games. deuteronomy 5:9 boils down to (great)grandchildren suffering for (great) grandpa's sin. why does THE LORD afflict them with consequences of their forefather's iniquity?
@A Sojourner so that's it. it's like a bad habit and a bad example. so now i have some bad tendencies. there's nothing new to family traditions not being entirely wholesome. no sir, i think here the reader is told that their children's children will be punished for their wicked ways. meaning, even if i get away with it my descendents will suffer. that's the message i get. and there are examples in the bible. The curse Of Ham may be the first instance.
Can I get the clarification of the story of David bringing the Ark of God to the city of David as described in 1 Chronicles 13 and God struck Uzza and he died because he tried to catch it?
Can you explain the background of the story?
Sorry, I am a Christian. If I believe your interpretation, our Lord God will be a liar. David did commit adultery and Nathan the prophet confirmed it when the Lord sent him to meet King David and rebuked him. That is very clear in the Bible.
Nathan accused David of bending the law to his own interests. That was David's offense, and he admitted to it.
Then how do we explain Psalms 51 titled: "A prayer of repentance (A psalm of David when Nathan the prophet went to him after he had gone in to Bethsheba)."
Religion without Christ is just useless empty talk, a snore fest.
With many of your videos, there's this claim that the story is not as it is presented in the Torah. My question is, where do you get this alternative information? Why does David have to be perfect to be venerated? It's not that David had no morals, rather he was a fallible human being and sinned and fell, then repented genuinely and resumed living in obediance to God's commands from thereon. What's unusual about that narrative, which is how it has been written and handed down? I don't think making up alternative narratives is 'revelation' as some here are calling this remake of David and Bathsheba's story.
His mistakes and sins make him a better hero!
Sir - What was the “treason” of Uriah??? Thx!
Did he say that? He is calling good evil and evil good. Uriah the Hittite is one of my favorites in all the Hebrew Bible. I love David, but he was a murderer.
@@nccognito2324 Uriah could have been killed in battle either way. Even if he was not sent to the front-lines, there is still a chance that he could have been killed because that is what happens in battle.
@@debrawehrly9551 Are you intimating that killed in battle=killed by your king? In what universe? Do you have any conception of holiness? God is holy. If you know anything about mankind, you realize we are not. What makes us unholy? Our sins, the nature that draws us away from God. How do you believe God deals with our natures, that will not submit to Him?
@@debrawehrly9551 Debra, did you reread what David ordered Joab to do in 2 Samuel 11. It was simply murder. Now, try to imagine you are each individual involved and what it took to quench your conscience. That is who we are, to one degree or another.
well, uriah refused to go lay with his wife as david told him. probably so bathsheba's pregnancy would have a cover.
I've enjoyed and appreciated alot of the content on this channel, but I simply do not follow the rationale here. 😬
David sinned until he was born again. John 3: 5
This is hard to accept because we are taught to not add or subtract from scripture and not to accept other doctrine if scripture doesn't back it up.
Isn’t the New Testament an entire addition
1And the LORD sent Nathan unto David. And he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two men in one city; the one rich, and the other poor.
2The rich man had exceeding many flocks and herds:
3But the poor man had nothing, save one little ewe lamb, which he had bought and nourished up: and it grew up together with him, and with his children; it did eat of his own meat, and drank of his own cup, and lay in his bosom, and was unto him as a daughter.
4And there came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him.
5And David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: 6And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.
7And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; 8And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things. 9Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon. 10Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife. 11Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. 12For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.
Setting aside the NT, where do you think this man got his interpretation about the “hidden” divorce and treason? Is it “his” word or God’s Word we must believe if they contradict each other?
@@joannegarcia6226 yes, I would like to understand where this tradition came from in history? He doesn’t say where this is taught.
When you address this extremely difficult chapter, you have to be convincing. But you see from a lot of the comments that intelligent people didn't buy your thesis. You didn't explain how Uriah committed treason. Although you correctly stated that Batsheva was a divorced woman, yet Nathan the prophet admonishes King David, you did not explain what David did wrong for which he was admonished and was penitent for the rest of his life. You didn't explain why even after David acknowledging his sin, still he married Batsheva. This lecture was a terrible failure and you should have avoided the subject altogether.
I totally agree with you zeyv
He didn't obey King David. KING David told Uriah first to come stay with Sheba basically until she gave birth. URIAH said he'd sleep on the Kings doorsteps if he left his men fighting wo him. SO, David was King he disobeyed. That's treason. So, David sent him to the front where he was sure to be killed.
@@missym5196 Yes, and that is part of what Rabbi Friedman failed to explain.
Thank you.
Uriah was sent to die because that is what he wanted, to disobey God just like Saul before God sent Samuel to find David. The loss of my Son was so all the arrogant people who think they know and understand can feel justified in their condemnation of me. Though they do not accept God's word or judgements anyway.
The whole point of me not beong perfect is to be accepting of others. Apparently they would rather search for excuses to deny and disobey God.
The Loss of my Son is everyone's gain.
Psalm 89
Ezekial 37:24-27
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Why did Nathan confront David? If God's will is Solomon thru Bathsheba?
I'm right with you on being distracted by the "surface impressions" and what's behind it. But looking for dirt in the players of the story still keeps the story on the surface.
What if the story of David and Bathsheba isn't about the immorality which the Law condemned,, but the lack of God's condemnation in spite of the Law? Lack of God's condemnation, you say-what of Nathan then? All Nathan did was what God did with Cain by asking, "Where is your brother?" God did not say Cain did wrong-he just exposed the incident. So Nathan tells a parable to David for the king to judge-and David condemns the man in the parable. Nathan responds saying, "You are that man." David condemned himself. Cain had done the same regarding Abel, fearing others would avenge his brother's murder and kill him. But what does God do? He protects Cain-just as he did not condemn David. Didn't have to-they both condemned themselves. Both stories are more about God's mercy than vilifying or venerating (justifying) biblical players.
But I do follow you on the Messianic line. That is also an important thread to follow in the story; adding yet another layer to those who would investigate. Keep up the good work!
That’s a phenomenal thought that expounds upon the nature of the curses and blessings in the Torah. These curses and blessings are an affirmation of the natural result of despising or living out the law. G-d doesn’t need to condemn and impose suffering because reality is harsh enough and guilt leads us to recognise our condition and pronounce sentence upon ourselves.
A restored trust-filled relationship is what G-d desires - that’s why he shows his love, long-suffering and forbearance when we seek him with humbleness.
@@StephenAR Your added insight is wonderful to read! This lack of God's condemnation for moral infractions is consistently repeated with many others. But having established his mercy, there was one transgression which provoked God's consistent anger. (Another rabbit trail.)
So I love and agree with Friedman's observation that God actually wanted the first couple to eat from that fateful tree. "Be fruitful and multiply," God said. The tools of evaluation (the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil) are necessary to achieve and build in this world. But the tools that build can also destroy. That fruit turned out to be a double-edged sword. And as much as we'd like to believe otherwise (dang history keeps repeating), "a restored trust-filled relationship" with God is the only solution.
Our first impression is always insufficient....I would agree with that. If anything is to be said of the virtue of David, it would be of his fervor for G-d in his youth and his understanding of His mercy in his later years. Solomon became the pinnacle of this era, through Bathsheba. Only G-d can make good from the mistakes of men. If G-d is not willing to execute the law who are we to question? In this case, the message became stronger than the sin.
I always find Rabbi's talks thought-provoking. However, on this one I beg to slightly differ for a number of reasons scattered throughout the comments, so I'll just touch on one of them. The singular reason why we should rethink this passage according to the Rabbi is that everyone praises David, and so why would we rever him if he was adulterous. Well, the scripture tells us that he did commit adultery and displeased God, and yet we rever him - that seems to be our problem and not a problem of the scripture. If I tell you the nature of this road and you go ahead to use the road, that's your own problem and not mine, and certainly doesn't question my integrity or accuracy.
On the other hand, the question suggests that all the Christians and Muslims and Jews who hitherto rever king David already know that he was never guilty of the charges. This is clearly not the case as I have never seen any source or preacher who praises David and also deny these charges. Rather, they teach us that our heroes have their flaws too, or as T.D. Jakes will put it: "that Spiderman is really Clark Ken and not that Clark Ken is really Spiderman. " Otherwise, how would you explain the curses - death of the child, sword will not depart from his home, public rape of his wives?
It seems they're well deserved.
And Rahab wasn't a prostitute, and Moses didn't really kill that guy, and Jacob didn't deceive Isaac, and Samson wasn't promiscuous, and Jonah got on the wrong boat by accident ..... etc.
What's your point sir?
Bathseba was married. 2 Samuel 11: 3 And David sent and enquired after the woman. And one said, Is not this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite? Clearly, she was his wife.
In Islam, we believe all prophets are infallible (in the human form), so we don't accept that prophet Dawood had committed that sin at all.
Okay 👌 But can you tell me why Nathan the Prophet came too King David, and told King David that God was God was not pleased with him ?
things aren't really concealed, people just got their eyes closed and others are afraid and look away, and others look and go crazy. it is all here and now and always.
May Jehovah forgive my sins .. he is the true God. We can’t see him but we could feel him. He is not a statue nor the universe. He is the creator of all living things. Even saying a half a lie bothers me .. may Jehovah forgive me.
King David DID commit adultery (showing his humanness even though.a holy person), but that is not why he should be remembered. It is his repentance and humility so well captured in the psalms that is the glory.
We need to always read between the lines of what the scriptures state
I just said that to somebody last week.
One definitely has to learn how to read between the lines in these stories.
Pure unsubstantiated fiction.
1And the LORD sent Nathan unto David. And he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two men in one city; the one rich, and the other poor.
2The rich man had exceeding many flocks and herds:
3But the poor man had nothing, save one little ewe lamb, which he had bought and nourished up: and it grew up together with him, and with his children; it did eat of his own meat, and drank of his own cup, and lay in his bosom, and was unto him as a daughter.
4And there came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him.
5And David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: 6And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.
7And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; 8And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things. 9Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon. 10Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife. 11Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. 12For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.
" we could never venerate, or give any respect at all, to someone who committed such a terrible sin."
Me, an imperfect person: we could if they repented, and sincerely tried to turn their lives around for God.
I respect. I do not venerate. Veneration is ONLY for GOD.
According to Torah Moses committed manslaughter (aka murder) and is well respected amongst Jews till this very day we don't have to rewrite history to make David look better we love him with all his weaknesses and faults... "And when the wife of Uriah heard that Uriah her husband was dead, she made lamentation for her husband." 2 Sam 11:26
"Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon." 2 Sam 12:9
I refuse to add or take anything away from the scriptures. David killed a man to took his wife but the reason he was not struck with death according to the law of Moses was because he was not caught in the act. The Law said if a person is CAUGHT committing adultery she was to be stoned to death…stone by who..? The people .. so Gods law was not bent or partial towards David . But God himself in mercy punished David not according to the law because according to the law he was not caught or charged by the people.
6 days to God is as 6,000 years to man… who knows the mind of God so as to instruct him in ways of righteousness
For Love covers a multidue of Sin
FALSE! David committed adultery “When Uriah’s *WIFE* heard that her husband was dead, she mourned for him.”
2 Samuel 11:26
Side note: she was already pregnant with the kings bastard at this time.
Rabbi is my favourite, but this commentary is absolutely baseless and non biblical. Read the Bible again! You are speaking from your heart not from tanakh.
How do you explain Nathans's confrontation towards king David for his behavior.
And all the curses that followed him and his children.....
Why King David didn’t just turn away or close his eyes, he fell into temptation I guess!! Technically speaking he didn’t commit sin bcz Bethseba was divorced why God sent prophet Natan to remind king David!!!?? What is the point????
More information about Sarah Abraham's wife please . Thanks.
No literate person could read the story in the scripture and come anywhere near this interpretation. Through Nathan, God directly accuses David of murder and stealing the man's wife. David has punished for this all his life and his first son died as part of that punishment. David involves Joab in his conspiracy--and references--and repents of it many times in his writings. It boggles the mind that a rabbi could think he could get away with making up an alernate story.
Every soldier would divorce his wife and what happened after they returned from the war ! Marry their divorced wife again !!
I was enjoying these videos until this one. Somethings off about the premise of David still being a good guy because he was just upset about how things looked. In the eyes of God all sin is equal correct? So the question that needs to be asked about David is why God still favors him so deeply even with the act of using his power to gain the ability to steal a mans wife. Who are we to be to please god even though we sin so greatly?
it's my earnestly request to you sir please give study of Napoleon.(Genesis Chapter 6)
My man makes up stories and then tried to supplant the actual meaning with his own imagination
Lol yup
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משיח = 358 = בהוה שלי
Mashiach is only in the Present. The very designation Mashiach in Hebrew demands this interpretation. All the talk of Mashiach coming, getting closer to Mashiach, any day now...are directives to the Creation to keep you always approaching but never arriving. So, I ask you to ask yourself something honestly: Is it maybe that what you really want is to want Mashiach without the heavy responsibility of the reality
All you can do is criticized! No person have not commit sins, even the annointed one and even the prophets. Even me and even you.
This is heresy, full stop.
What treason did Bethshebas husband commit? Was it that he did not divorce her before going to war?
He refused to follow a direct order from his king.
Which was what exactly ?
Where can this be found ?
As far as I understand David haMelech did commit those crimes what was great about him was that he was repentant of it and God forgave him and that's why he was able to write the psalms and why we praise him not because of his sins but because of his recognizing admitting and turning from that
Sir, does your Tanah version has the prophet Nathan on it? Because if it has, why God sent him to tell king David that he made a terrible mistake by killing that soldier? If it doesn't have Nathan in there, why some Rabbis tells that story including Nathan to it?
And if one ties a man to a tree and leaves him for dead he did not kill him... 🤔
The whole duty of man is to Love YeHoVah with all their heart and with all their mind and with all their soul, and to Love their neighbor as themselves. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the prophets. To worship YeHoVah is to OBEY Him. YeHoVah's Glory is His intrinsic eternal perfection. Man has a sin burden and so man will never fully measure up until Messiah's Kingdom comes. For those times and for whatever reason when we sin and don't measure up we need to repent and we need a redeemer. YeHoVah's redeemer is YeHoshua---Proverbs 30:4. David sinned and David repented. David was a man after YeHoVah's own heart. This is how I view it.
Nothing makes sense to you. As always. You are dangerous
David was the anointed one.... the christ spirit of the Father, the son of him.....
Become one with David and rise up as the Father and son as one
My confusion is enlarged by this explanation if it was so why prophet Nathan portray in that manner??
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Hello dear rabbi are you from Africa?
For the temerity of a king who would not go to do battle and lead his own armies, David went from sloth into lust. David already had a wife.
I've always been perplexed and I feel there must be something deeper. I was hoping for an insight into the prophets Nathan parable. Despite the explanation that Bathsheba was at the time divorced the passage still says 'you took his WIFE as your own'. And in so doing it says that this was evil in the eyes of G-d. It feels that there is a message here that notwithstanding that technically in law he ticked all the right boxes his actions nevertheless were profoundly sinful. Along the lines that its not just about doing things right, but also doing the right thing. Rabbi can you share further insights please? Or point me to further sources>? Thanks.
Thanks Hashem for sending Rabbi Manis Freedman, I played your video to my two daughters yesterday during Shabbath, I let you speak rather than try and repeat what you said. It's like an astro physicist who is brilliant can explain the most complicated physics so even a child can understand. You explain the Torah / Tanakh like this. We started 'in the beginning' with your explanation of Adam and Eve. My 18th year old daughter thought this is beautiful, does he have more videos, and I said yes. My 12 year old daughter was fired up, wanting to discuss every detail, thanks for giving us a beautiful lecture. We grew up in a place where women are not believed, understood or honoured, far from the faith of our forefathers. It is refreshing to see how Judaism is different, its important message for the world, I hope more and more people find true treasure, true light and understanding, and the stories from Torah and Tanakh are revisited through the eyes and hearts and understanding of good spiritual leaders, ie Rabbis. Thanks I humbly ask may Hashem bless you in all that you do.
I want to know how you know that treason was committed?
This man's interpretation of scripture is misleading, does really understand the whole story of David and Uriah?
I even listened to his interpretation of Genesis and I didn't agree with him.
Your absolutely right.... He said Eve did the right thing, in disobeying God's one rule, and that Adam was proud of her....... He believes Satan is not a bad being, but simply there to help us......And he is completely rejecting the very plain words of scripture. This isn't just him though.....this is mainstream Ultra Orthodox right here.... Satan is Good....They will not utter God's name....They reject the words Moses wrote in Exodus 24:3-4 when Moses said he spoke and then wrote all that God told him, when they believe the oral Torah which is quite long, was also given to Moses......And they reject the scripture, and God, for their own dreams that they dream.....
Jeremiah 23:25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed. ........23:27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, Its right there. We are seeing this with our own eyes, and hearing it with our own ears....
For me the most thrilling part of this story , ABBA YAHUAH , CHOOSES BERSHIBA'S SON , SOLOMON TO BE THE NEXT KING AFTER DAVID ! THOUGH THE SIN , YET IN DIVINE LINE !
N I ALWAYS SEE HIS GRACE N ALWAYS CREATING NEW . DISCARDING UNWANTED N FASHIONING THE THINGS THAT HE WANTS !
WHEN I SIT DOWN N THINK ABOUT ABBA , HE MAKES ME MARVEL AT HIS PLANS AS HE REVEALS STEP BY STEP .
BIBLE IS NOT THE BOOK OF PERFECT PEOPLE , BUT THE PERFECT LOVE OF ABBA YAHUSHA !
Dios Te Bendiga Rabbi !
Thank you for the revelation.