Quand j'étais gamin, j'ai débardé du bois avec mon père et jamais nous aurions perdu autant de temps. - 1) Nous n'avions pas de grue pour charger et décharger, donc une fois chargé, on ne déchargeait pas en cours de chemin. - 2) Nous n'avions que 75 Cv (HP) & deux roues motrices, donc nous n'avions pas toutes ces possibilités. - 3) Pourtant nous mettions jusqu'à 7 stères (m3) sur la remorque et nous la sortions même dans des aulnaies (endroits très humides toute l'année). - 4) Jamais l'office des forêts nous aurait autorisé à creuser de telles ornières. Sinon nous aurions du revenir les reboucher à la pelle et à la pioche. - 5) Mais mon père étudiait son passage, évitait d'abîmer le sol, il ne repassait pas 50 fois au même endroit. Je pense que l'auteur de la vidéo a voulu nous montrer les possibilités de son matériel et l'avantage d'avoir un grappin pour se sortir d'une mauvaise situation. Dans le cas contraire, c'est un débutant qui ne compte ni son temps, ni l'usure du matériel, ni le gasoil perdu.
Muy intersante e ilustrativo el documental. Es propio de un país que tiene un concepto y autoridades elevadamente culto-científicas. Que naturalmente redundan en grata evolución y desarrollo, producto tambien de la disciplina y honradez que vultivan. Gracias hijo. Saluda a Carolita, cuidense, un abrazo.
How about the winch? I mean that is a winch bolted on the front end right? And before anyone mentions that it wasn't working, or had no line in it, I ask WHY THE HELL NOT?
In that type of ground you need a smaller tire (not as wide) and chains all the way around. And like someone else commented that logs make a good road. That's what I do all the time. Have a bad spot just fill it with pulpwood and go on.
A lot of comments about driving. But no comments about equipment. @Juris Peškovs, could you please tell us more technical information? Frame, motor, transmission, handling etc? All is made by yourself or was constructed on the base of something? How long does it take to make this machine? As homemade it looks very impresive.
Why haven't you installed rollers on this machine? I don’t think there would have been a stuck with the rollers. In Finland, we have rollers in all forest machines, both in harvesters and driving machines.
Always comfortable to know, that everybody who’s commenting was there, knew the ground, the machine and in consequence, of course, the best and therefore only way to get it out of that tight spot! But yes, differential locks seem like something, that could have made it easier to get out.
Добрый день. Подскажите с чего сделана рама(интересует размер профильной трубы?). Думаю сделать с 240*120*8мм....Подскажите хватит ли толщины стенки 8мм? Спасибо. Удачи в начинаниях!
Têtu le mec il VOI pas qu il est coincé jusqu au cou moi j aurai décharger des le début puisque au final il l'a fait je parle en connaissance de cause 👌👌👌👌
Yes, I do agree with you It's as We Say in french,: élémentaire mon cher watson He'd better take home its forwarder And make the changes as needed, install diff lockers Much more time saved And of course money
Hi, job 38 four Here is the translation : This is Elementary dear watson As you can see, this is very similar But, has this pal proceeded in changing its machine, so that he 'll saving much more, gas, time, money, yield.. .. 🤔
@@brunocharles3179 So this must mean even Sherlock see's the evidence of the need for diff lockers, and if Watson lived in Maine he might say ( No chit Sherlock) Watson might also suggest that half-tracks on the rears will help alot.
Привет,зачётно колею за бомбил.Ему бы на шины сетку такую конкретную ,что бы щепки летели или гусянки на задние шины.Хотя тяжело предсказать как они себя поведут на мостах.Ведь у форварда тандемы.Удачи в гряземесе .
it can be used several ways. even to pull yourself out of a spot like he is stuck in in this video. if he think of it and find a tree ore rock to tie the wire too. hehe But usually a timber winch is used pulling logs if the terrain is to steap-- rocky like it is many plases in norway at least.. in the 80s i worked for a farmer which didnt have a forwarder, just a 4 wheel drive tractor and a 3 wire 20 ton winsj,, where you could run the 3 winches seperatly, making you able to even set up say a dragline.. but usually we just put say 3 trees on each wire, with a chain on each tree and dragd 9 trees a time down to the lumber road where we cut the trees to length and loaded them on the trailer with the front loader. here is an example of a tractor with 2 wire winsj: encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQkyQs_jaVojCVob4o8BZaAlmHJcMHwNULKh0-Wrb1jekJIDrD9w&s and here i guess 1 wire... i guess it depend on how big trees you cut-tractorsize and what terrain you drag the logs over how big winsj-many wires you need.. encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_WCYGig799Mz-77dB2dfoG1Z1oys7bZx_LXjXD27tk7j1KC_jrA&s
Sorry, I should have written why is he not using the winch instead? It seems like a well build machine, to bad only 3 wheels are turning when it gets wet. These tyres seems great. But these big tyres often dont have enough ply rating for tough forest.
@@framfull agreed. but from experience i say the driver was smart unloading BEFORE SINKING TO DEEP. hehe if the ground is so soft you start sinking, nowone knows where the bottom is. hehe.. Differiental locks might have helped but it also could have made it wourse! not even a million wheels spinning helps if the weight of the maskine REST ON THE BELLY OF THE MASKINE. hehe
#1 I was wondering why he never used the front winch #2 is there not someone who makes a good track to go around the load carrying tires to afford more traction & less sinking #3 why does not such a machine have axle lock on the load wheels to where all 4 turn in unison & another separate lock for the front #4 if you look at Land & forstmaster 92 you will see a Komatsu 931xe with the tracks I am talking about , you also see the tracks in Logset 6F logging in wet forest #5 if you look at logging in Louisiana you will see they build a road out of brush & smaller trees so the log transporter does not sink in.
Cik skatos dampis labs, bet kkas būtu jādomā ar bloķi tiltos jo savadāk tā ir čakarēšanās nevis strādāšana Un reizem rodas sajūta ka motoru ņiprāku prasītos
Me causa verdaderamente tristeza ver q destruyen y talan árboles,se dan cuenta ....... Pero puede más el poder del dinero ..... Lamentablemente. 🙏🙏🙏🙏😢😢Altoooooooo
Нас лесничий ругал когда мы ездили только по колее.еще сильнее ее разбивая.видишь что глубина уже критическая возьми одним колесом по середине .потом другой стороной.и дорогу не разбиваешь и самому такие телодвижения как у тебя делать не приходиться.
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Quand j'étais gamin, j'ai débardé du bois avec mon père et jamais nous aurions perdu autant de temps.
- 1) Nous n'avions pas de grue pour charger et décharger, donc une fois chargé, on ne déchargeait pas en cours de chemin.
- 2) Nous n'avions que 75 Cv (HP) & deux roues motrices, donc nous n'avions pas toutes ces possibilités.
- 3) Pourtant nous mettions jusqu'à 7 stères (m3) sur la remorque et nous la sortions même dans des aulnaies (endroits très humides toute l'année).
- 4) Jamais l'office des forêts nous aurait autorisé à creuser de telles ornières. Sinon nous aurions du revenir les reboucher à la pelle et à la pioche.
- 5) Mais mon père étudiait son passage, évitait d'abîmer le sol, il ne repassait pas 50 fois au même endroit.
Je pense que l'auteur de la vidéo a voulu nous montrer les possibilités de son matériel et l'avantage d'avoir un grappin pour se sortir d'une mauvaise situation.
Dans le cas contraire, c'est un débutant qui ne compte ni son temps, ni l'usure du matériel, ni le gasoil perdu.
differential lock would make it much easier. Great build
10:30 👍👏 Sometimes it is better to unload in time, although it feels like defeat 😉 Intelligent digging!
Great video! Good job! 🚚🚜💪😎👍👍👍
Som andra sagt.. utan diffspärrar eller diffbromsar och kedjor på hjulen kändes den inte riktigt färdig?
Homemade?? Awesome build i know it took time to build something this good. I also see why my tree farmer has locking differentials.
A horse, a horse! A kingdom for a horse!
Muy intersante e ilustrativo el documental. Es propio de un país que tiene un concepto y autoridades elevadamente culto-científicas. Que naturalmente redundan en grata evolución y desarrollo, producto tambien de la disciplina y honradez que vultivan. Gracias hijo. Saluda a Carolita, cuidense, un abrazo.
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Ты чем обкурилась?
How about the winch? I mean that is a winch bolted on the front end right? And before anyone mentions that it wasn't working, or had no line in it, I ask WHY THE HELL NOT?
In that type of ground you need a smaller tire (not as wide) and chains all the way around. And like someone else commented that logs make a good road. That's what I do all the time. Have a bad spot just fill it with pulpwood and go on.
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A lot of comments about driving. But no comments about equipment. @Juris Peškovs, could you please tell us more technical information? Frame, motor, transmission, handling etc? All is made by yourself or was constructed on the base of something? How long does it take to make this machine? As homemade it looks very impresive.
and that's why you chain up.....before you start....the rear baldini's didn't help either.
but love the rig...very cool
Ai e muito massa tempotencia bruta Sidrolândia ms
Looks like locking diffs are the next upgrade.
Why haven't you installed rollers on this machine? I don’t think there would have been a stuck with the rollers. In Finland, we have rollers in all forest machines, both in harvesters and driving machines.
Не у нас одних в этом году болото в делянах.удачи ✊
Super forvarder.
Muy buenos videos.
Nice! Differential locks would have been great.
Nice 6x6 thanks for sharing your great video
Steve Armendaiz,
Nice 6x3. . . .
You broke the rule of driving on very wet ground, never go through the same spot twice unless you really have to. Vary your routes.
Good job on the build
Wheel chains and all wheel drive is the answer from a retired forwarder driver.
Gracias por tu exposición
Always comfortable to know, that everybody who’s commenting was there, knew the ground, the machine and in consequence, of course, the best and therefore only way to get it out of that tight spot!
But yes, differential locks seem like something, that could have made it easier to get out.
В таких местах ,надо р9аботать по зимнику ,
Да он ваще какой то , тщедушный , еле, еле, ,
такие колёсья и провернуть не может, а
, ещё ,,иномарка""🤣
Is that a winch I see on the front of the forwarder, with a wire rope and a tree stump out in front looks like it would help.
Seems an excellent machine... for digging holes...
Nice build
I drove skidder for a lot of years and if you don't watch the ground and your surrounding you will fall victim to them
Je lui tire mon chapeau
Wheel chains is a must.
leslie phillip or posi
That moment you get free 😂😂yes
Or lockers in the differentials, or both then all six wheels will pull.
Super👍
👍👍👍
El bloqueo de diferencial hubiera sido un gran cambio pero por lo visto no lo tenia.
Παρά πολύ ωραίο
Needs diff lock or at very least some ring chains
Жаль блокировок нету, а машина высший класс.
Forestry was always a struggle.
Underskatta aldrig behovet av tjälad mark!
Logs make a nice road
Добрый день. Подскажите с чего сделана рама(интересует размер профильной трубы?). Думаю сделать с 240*120*8мм....Подскажите хватит ли толщины стенки 8мм?
Спасибо. Удачи в начинаниях!
здравствуйте, у нас рама снята с трактора т-150, если это профильная труба, то думаем нужна более толстая, спасибо, удачи вам
Legend has it he is still trying to get this load out.
A zasta imas vitlo?
Que trabajito!!!
Awesome mechion. Diff locks would help a lot
P#i
عالیه
Aun siguen esperando a que llegue la temporada de verano a ver si se puede sacar la maquina
Es gibt wirklich Bekloppte Fahrer und das ist einer von denen
Bleibt ja nicht aus, denn niemand will mehr gute Fahrer bezahlen.
Da bleibt so etwas nicht aus!
That was the smart thing to do unloaded first and don't dig it deeper but us loggers like it like that
Respekt good job.
Dobra maszyna😀😀😀😀
Install tire chains.
it appears he"s overlooked one vital feature diff locks lol
Têtu le mec il VOI pas qu il est coincé jusqu au cou moi j aurai décharger des le début puisque au final il l'a fait je parle en connaissance de cause 👌👌👌👌
Winch?
Проще было разгрузиться наполовину и выехать, сыпь потом зашпалить
Haven't you got differential lock on the axis ?
It seems. Not
Really stupid stuff
@@brunocharles3179 pĺļ
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Блокировки дифа не хватает. А так форвардер очень даже не плох.
👍
Listen to that Cummins engine wow
If I had the skills to make a machine like this, the first and foremost thing I'd incorporate is diff lockers.
Yes, I do agree with you
It's as We Say in french,: élémentaire mon cher watson
He'd better take home its forwarder And make the changes as needed, install diff lockers
Much more time saved And of course money
@@brunocharles3179("as We Say in french,: élémentaire mon cher watson ")
Hi, job 38 four
Here is the translation :
This is Elementary dear watson
As you can see, this is very similar
But, has this pal proceeded in changing its machine, so that he 'll saving much more, gas, time, money, yield.. .. 🤔
He'll be saving.....
@@brunocharles3179 So this must mean even Sherlock see's the evidence of the need for diff lockers, and if Watson lived in Maine he might say ( No chit Sherlock) Watson might also suggest that half-tracks on the rears will help alot.
Great vid thanks. Not easy. A diff lock and lower tire pressure are my suggestions.....
If only there were a tree to strap that winch line to.😂
Incrivel
Привет,зачётно колею за бомбил.Ему бы на шины сетку такую конкретную ,что бы щепки летели или гусянки на задние шины.Хотя тяжело предсказать как они себя поведут на мостах.Ведь у форварда тандемы.Удачи в гряземесе .
Ему бы прокладку м/у рулем и сиденьем поменять! Сколько он времени ковырялся, за это время мог бы разгрузиться, выехать и загрузиться.
Bellissime immagini
Isn't that a winch on the front ?
Whats the winch in the front used for?
it can be used several ways. even to pull yourself out of a spot like he is stuck in in this video.
if he think of it and find a tree ore rock to tie the wire too. hehe
But usually a timber winch is used pulling logs if the terrain is to steap-- rocky like it is many plases in norway at least..
in the 80s i worked for a farmer which didnt have a forwarder, just a 4 wheel drive tractor and a 3 wire 20 ton winsj,, where you could run the 3 winches seperatly, making you able to even set up say a dragline..
but usually we just put say 3 trees on each wire, with a chain on each tree and dragd 9 trees a time down to the lumber road where we cut the trees to length and loaded them on the trailer with the front loader.
here is an example of a tractor with 2 wire winsj:
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQkyQs_jaVojCVob4o8BZaAlmHJcMHwNULKh0-Wrb1jekJIDrD9w&s
and here i guess 1 wire... i guess it depend on how big trees you cut-tractorsize and what terrain you drag the logs over how big winsj-many wires you need..
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_WCYGig799Mz-77dB2dfoG1Z1oys7bZx_LXjXD27tk7j1KC_jrA&s
Sorry, I should have written why is he not using the winch instead? It seems like a well build machine, to bad only 3 wheels are turning when it gets wet. These tyres seems great. But these big tyres often dont have enough ply rating for tough forest.
@@framfull agreed. but from experience i say the driver was smart unloading BEFORE SINKING TO DEEP. hehe if the ground is so soft you start sinking, nowone knows where the bottom is. hehe..
Differiental locks might have helped but it also could have made it wourse!
not even a million wheels spinning helps if the weight of the maskine REST ON THE BELLY OF THE MASKINE. hehe
Machine looks like Valmet 862..?
Luar biasa keren
#1 I was wondering why he never used the front winch
#2 is there not someone who makes a good track to go around the load carrying tires to afford more traction & less sinking
#3 why does not such a machine have axle lock on the load wheels to where all 4 turn in unison & another separate lock for the front
#4 if you look at Land & forstmaster 92 you will see a Komatsu 931xe with the tracks I am talking about , you also see the tracks in Logset 6F logging in wet forest
#5 if you look at logging in Louisiana you will see they build a road out of brush & smaller trees so the log transporter does not sink in.
А куда смотрит охрана природы
Muito legal
Before getting stuck , you unload a tke an another way.
сам себе создал проблему * потом начал героически ее преодолевать
sen jau vareeja izkraut un parbraukt
A kam tam traktoram vinča,smukumam?
Cik skatos dampis labs, bet kkas būtu jādomā ar bloķi tiltos jo savadāk tā ir čakarēšanās nevis strādāšana
Un reizem rodas sajūta ka motoru ņiprāku prasītos
Bet tā ir normāls dampis
Один вопрос. Как при выпуске такой техники не установить блокировки мостов?
Самоделка.
That guy is making a Hell of a mess. Glad he's not in my woodlot.
Would using his front mounted winch not have made sense . . .
👍
Time and wear and tear.
Dampim nav nekāda vaina. Laicīgi pakot + tīkli un būs ok!
He’s funny why didn’t he push down on boom to push his way forward lol
great rig but why not of went around the mud lmao
die einen haben Hirn,die anderen starke Maschinen.
Proč jste nepoužil naviják? Děkuji
Des chaines au plus vite.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Next loud in the wintertime.
Some people moan when they have to pay a bit for a forestry product ? I think of the effort to get it !
need some lockers badly
Из таких мест проще вытащить брёвна лебёдкой.
Это будет и быстрее и дешевле.
Tam bi treljovcnik vobce neprasot... Scas vizu krutoi trelovocnik ciedri....
Me causa verdaderamente tristeza ver q destruyen y talan árboles,se dan cuenta ....... Pero puede más el poder del dinero ..... Lamentablemente. 🙏🙏🙏🙏😢😢Altoooooooo
lower gears?
залог успеха на болоте- МНОГО РЕЙСОВ ПО ЧУТЬ-ЧУТЬ.
ាំាឈាាំា១ាាំាំាំាំ
Летом лес рубят. Весь лес в траншеях. Все испоганили.
Нас лесничий ругал когда мы ездили только по колее.еще сильнее ее разбивая.видишь что глубина уже критическая возьми одним колесом по середине .потом другой стороной.и дорогу не разбиваешь и самому такие телодвижения как у тебя делать не приходиться.
Надо нагрузить так,что бы за вторым рейсом вообще нахер не ездить
step on the diffy!