How To Reseal a Johnson / Evinrude V4 & V6 Lowerunit / Gearcase
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Fits:
V4 1978-1984
88 / 90 / 110 / 115 HP
1.6L OMC Sea Drive
120 / 140 HP 1985+
100 Commercial 1984-1990
125 Commercial 1990
V6 1979-1990
155 Commercial 1984-1990
V6 / V8 Counter Rotation 1991
Single Lip Seal 1991-1994
90 / 115 Looper / V6
Double Lip Seals
90 / 115 Looper / V6 1994+
100/125 Commercial
V6 / V8 Commercial 1991-1993
V6 / V8 Counter Rotation a1992
75-250 E-Tech 2004+
Evinrude Seal Kit Part number 5006373
Rarely do I find one single video that shows you EVERYTHING you need to know, especially for a job that has as many steps/parts as this. Good job sir. Well done
This has to be by far the best instructional video on how to perform this task. Thank you for sharing!
Great video. What I like most is that it demonstrates the complexity of the process and the value of a good outboard mechanic, who has both the knowledge and experience to do it right the first time. Think I will call him later today.
Just before it got too cold in Canada, I decided to check the gear case oil in my '78 55Hp Johnson... this is a new motor to me (two summers) and had replaced the oil and drain seals at the start of the season. Thankfully I did check, as about 1/2 liter of water poured out of it, with the oil following that. That much water would have likely cracked the lower end unit over the next month or so in sub zero temps. Thus I went searching for how to replace oil seals in a 55hp Johnson and found your video. Thank you so much for the detailed, real-world view of how to fix this. I have the boat in my garage, and plan to re-seal the lower end this winter. I have the original service manual, but hope most of this video applies to my motor. Of particular interest is the other video you did showing what to look for when buying ebay tools. It's so easy to focus on the problem with the engine, and loose sight of the completeness of the tool.
Insanely helpful! You are the best I've ever seen at step by step for outboards.
I was amazed at how easily you removed the large circlips to get access to the gears, and then how easily they went back on. Your step by step instructions were exceptionally thorough and complete. You were concise and to the point. Thank you sir for your effort in making this fine video. Sadly, I own an OMC 800 stringer outdrive, but this video will make working on it much less painful. Great job!
Why thank you good sir.
this is a great video! I had bought a boat with the same engine on it that was "supposedly" in good condition (I didn't know better at the time), and your videos have helped tremendously. $80 for a seal kit (canada) and some rented tools is way better than several hundred (or more) to get someone else to do it.
thank you so much!!!
Just bought a used boat you just gave me the confidence to rebuild the lower end thanks alot!!
Thank you!!! Working on a BRP 90 hp. You sir are a scholar and gentleman.
this was one of the most informative videos I have ever watched,, you explained every part of it in great detail,, your camera shot's were very good as well,, not the usual shaky camera shot's that some people who clearly do not know how to use a good steady tripod,, and you end up getting very sea sick watching their videos!,, it was a long video,, but I was glued to it from start to finish,, I was thinking that some of the tools you used most people wont have,, so getting out oil seals can be done using a screw driver or a drift!,, using great care!,, thank you for over half an hour of wonderful educating entertainment,, now I know how to fix my gearbox seals if I need to do them,,
awesome job dude, i have a boat with a 200 HP 1996 evinrude and i have to replace all the lower unit seals and this is really nice and clean example of how do it, thanks again dude
glad it helped!
Thanks alot Brandon. I have a 1975 85hp that i had to take out the drive shaft and everything out of the lower because there was an issue with the clutch dog detent spring and balls. But now that its fixed, this will help me assemble it.
Thanks for this usefull information. I recently bought an used Evenride 30 at our dutch marketplace whihc ment after a big mistake because of its technicialal state. Engine was complete worn out .Brought it to our local dealer Sirag Warns for a damage report and after 2 weeks and 2 days still waiting not any responce. So i desided to look for diys information and so i met your video. Probably i am getting an etec technischian with customer friendly service
This video reminds me of watching my husband struggle with an old OMC 800 inboard/outboard in a 1976 Carribean.
I am a total amateur when it comes to boat motors but I have spent a career in a mechanical trade and rally appreciate this video. I would like to attempt this but i would have to pick up some special tools the extra long snap ring pliers, bearing pullers, etc. I also have to get up a bit of nerve to try it. I don't have that cool vice either and without that, that would make any attempt very very difficult.
Excellent video Mr. BG. Filming & Commentary is very helpful !! All the best from Oslo Norway.
Super easy job with the right tools. You are a great teacher 👍
Great video, very informative. KEEP POSTING. Thank you, you are providing and excellent service during this time that people need stuff done and no one wants to work!!
Great video, good to see a real mechanic doing the work.
Awesome video! I just bought my first boat. Its a project boat so everything is trashed. The first thing I noticed was the lower unit was seized up. I was able to break it free by soaking the lower unit in rust remover for a hour. Now it’s time to do this. Thanks for the video.
you and I are kind of in the "same boat" Mine came with a 115 v4 evinrude, id tag unreadable since it is so old, but it's speculated is from 1996. Am trying to find the seals that will fit it's lower unit.
Silver XGT www.marineengine.com should have anything you need once you find the year.
Thank you I wish you were here in GA I need a lower gear box installed on my 120 Mercury Force outboard and there's no one here that can do it.
Thanks for the video. I'll be doing this on my Evinrude 120 this spring
SUPER DUPER HELPFUL !!! thanks....and thank you for no annoying music
Excellent video very very informative... Makes me want to screw up mines LOL... Really great job!
Thank you for the great video!! I’ve been following this step by step. It’s super helpful!! I really appreciate it !
Great video. I will be doing this tomorrow on my 04' 90hp Johnson.
Love your videos, easy to follow explained so well ,keep up good work
You're a talented mechanic.
Great job! Very easy to follow you’re instructions!
Thanx man
It was the best video I ever seen it explains everything very good job I loved it. you nailed it
Gosh, I wish I had seen this before taking mine apart to change out the water pump. I had no idea the shifter rod screwed in and was activating the gear box by going up and down. Instead, I thought it simply went from side to side. It apparently was only being held in by one thread because it turned loose when I reinstalled the lower section. There is no way to get it in and out of gear now, so I am going to have to take it all apart again and screw in the rod. Problem is, I don't have a clue as how far to screw it in. There are no videos on how to do that. I may have to do it all the way in and adjust it later through the controls at the top. Great video. Just wish I had done better homework.
What is your engines model number? Ill look up how far it needs to go in.
@@BrandonsGarage Thanks Brandon. I took a guess and screwed in 4 complete turns. It connected at the top OK and appears to do what it supposed to do without adjusting the linkage. That surprised me because it must have barely been connected when I removed the loser housing.
My book for 1975 shows 4 rubber o rings on barrier carry bearing assembly should I use them and how tight should bolts be?
Brandon I have the entire lower gear case stripped out all gears and bearings..my question was can I powder coat the lower unit once everything is stripped? just was worried about the excess of heat it will be enduring once in the oven for powder coating purposes. Thank you
Brandon awesome video it is helping alot. Quick question what is best method to clean the bearing assembly and when you repack the seals should I put grease on the bearings themselves as well
Your vid was seriously helpful. Can another type of grease and sealing compound be used? they are not available on amazon, and I am in Canada, which always seems to make things more expensive and harder to find...
try marineengine.com
they ship everywhere.
hey fantastic vid tx. Just replaced the drive shaft - after re assembling in N the shaft made the rumbling sound. Watching this I see yours does as well (33:18) you start of in fwd (no sound), then click once (rumbles), then again into Rev (rumbles). so i guess they rumble in n too? disassembled it again but watching this i think its ok..
Excellent video, it’s a huge help! I’m getting desperate in finding those guide pins, do you know where I can find them?
i have a 1977 85 hp johnson outboard motor. where can i get the parts i need to do all that you did in this video?
Great video! Thank you !! Do you know if all these tools work for my 1980 85hp? I noticed you mentioned it will work for the 88hp I already bought the seals .
great video.....expert work performed. I just did this on my 1999 Johnson Ocean Pro 150 including the bearing carrier seals but unfortunately still have water getting in :( I had grooves in my drive shaft where the bearings ride so I am guessing that is where my leak is. Also I cant remember if I installed the drive shaft bearing holder with hole pointing forward.....would that be a catastrophic failure for my bearings or would they still get lubed somehow?
HELP! The seals I removed looked like this but when I order the part which is 0342787. The lip is big. And confusing which way they go. I forced together and the spring falls offs. Doesn’t make sense. I have a 97 Evinrude 90hp
Thanks for sharing, very informative. I think my shifter is sloppy, where it does not shift back into neutral from forward. I’ve followed procedure for shaft height, and think I need to replace the gear box. How do you troubleshoot that? Thanks Tim
84 johnnson 9.9 runs perfect wxcept that dam carrier bearinga have changed now. You just use the big rubber and the 1 plastic double lip seal. Then prop and i thought i had it fixed then i noticed oil in the pan a few days later. No water just oil. Which tells me its the prop shaft seal. If you could have showed how to replace the new carrier bearings 03060
I know this video is 6 years old but do you know if that bearing housing below the water pump housing has to be removed to replace the water intake screens? I have a 1976 Evinrude 115hp two stroke v4 and the water intake screens are all mostly broken and I'd like to replace them.
your the man!!! thank you so much for putting this out there
Great video. Thanks Brandon.
I need some help. I changed the seal and the o ring as you have done. Still leaking from the o ring.
I think they swapped the lower unit to a different one. Part number is 332140. The seals are the ones you are using. I’m trying just ti find the seals not the kit
Use an impact instead of a ratchet on your puller. You don't have to fight the twisting of the puller as much,and it's alot faster.
Jason T. Aho I cannot get my gear case out
Outstanding!! Might tackle this one soon.
Great video.. will this work for 1983 evinrude 90hp?
Sir, you work I exceptional. Thank you very much. 🎉
Great job teaching
Just use a Pencil ✏️ to push the O-ring back in the Shift Rod Hole . Eraser end in.
I Was replacing the water pump on a beautiful ‘87 Evinrude 15hp. I pulled the driveshaft straight up out of the lower unit. It is my understanding that the detention balls drop out.
This looks like a very difficult thing to dissemble and and repair. Do you have any videos of this process.
No detend on the driveshaft, just put it back in and youre done.
Can you do just the prop shaft seal without removing the lower unit?
Thank you , I wonder the shift rod you marked is there no tightening any more?
very helpful. Looking for a omc 90hp v4. don't like my e90dslseb with 89 hrs. don't want to be a slave to emm/diagnostics
Have a question I have a Johnson 140 down by the intake where the water go in there's a little bitty hole there water is coming out of it is it supposed to do that
First of all, YOU ROCK BRANDON!!!
Secondly, do you happen to know the length and thread pitch of your guide pins you used? Thanx!!
The size and thread pitch is 1/4 - 28. Unfortunately, finding a threaded rod with 28 threads per inch is difficult. I just used a 1/4 - 20 threaded rod. I was able to get them in the hole about a half turn and that was enough to get the holes aligned for the first two bolts. The length is about 8 or 10 inches. You just need enough to be able to screw them out by hand once you get the first two bolts started.
Hello, hey my peller housing has 2 tunes I'm assuming it's for dual water out let ,but Amazon one has housing for one outlet, any advice?
So those 4 screws that hold the bearing carrier all have their own O rings.. if u look at the underside of the bolt heads they have a recessed part that fits an o ring.. otherwise it will definately leak.. now if you got new screws than they might come already on there but if your reusing old screws than gotta buy new o rings which for me were 4$ each!!! For an o ring that wouldnt fit on my pinky.. rediculous.. but all my old ones were ripped up... just an fyi.. but very helpful video.. other than all of evinrudes overpriced lubes and speciality tools which i didnr use a one of em., had a ford torsion spring removal tool that worked for the puller.. other than that i used regular old twistin and beatin tools and used red high temp gasket rtv and marine greases.. good deal tho..
Where did you find these small o rings?
Ok finally got my bearing out!!!
I just pulled mine apart 2008 115h.p v4 and noticed from your video that mine didnt have a snap ring right by the reverse gear.... Is this on all evinrudes?
Brandon thanks for all your videos. Do you have any on reassembly of all the gears and the headaches? Tips on pinion nut and proper way to tighten. My 1983 75-Johnson - 20"gear case, I found a bad forward gear and pinion ( due to the giant rock I ran over). Let me know if you have any info on good videos.
You'll need a shimming fixture; That tool is just shy of $300
With that said, I should be able to find you some instructions.
I did not change drive rod bearing, do I still need shimming fixture? If so is this due to new pinion gear?
Technically yes.
It shims between the pinion and driveshaft bearing/seal. Ill find the instructions tonight, should help.
I have a 2000 90hp, I see mine has two retaining clips with bolts on the outside of the bearing carrier. Did I miss you taking them out, or are there two different carriers one that is secured by the two bolts and clips and one that is secured with the four bolts underneath?
Hi Brandon. Your video is excelent. I have a question: I have to change the forward gear on my 200ho evinrude, 1977 2 stroke. I have the new FG, is it imperative to have a matched pinion?
I'm using very similar tool as yours to pull the bearing assy out (johnson 50hp 2stroke, 1997), but the darn bearring carrier is stuck pretty well inside. I'm about to to abandon this lower unit and buy another used one. Do you have any last suggestion?
Best video out ther thank you very much
Working on a 1989 88SPL redid the seals and when I went to check that everything was working noticed the driveshaft won't moving regardless of being in neutral or gear. There is slight play in it but doesn't continue after the slack is taken out, wondering what I did wrong?
With a new water pump and seals it get so tight you cant turn it by hand.
Did you remove the bearing carrier to change the seals?
@@BrandonsGarage ok, and yes I Did remove the bearing carrier to change the seals.
Awesome thanks for the videos very helpful
How important is it to make sure the hole in drive shaft bearing housing to make sure it faces forward? Wouldn't it get lubricated in any orientation since oil will make its way all around it?
Eh, probably.
But the hole makes sure sufficient oil makes it way into the rollers.
I've seen them installed forward or backwards. If you have a manual I would give it a look to see which way yours gets installed.
Did you say the guide pin thread pitch/diameter? Is it the same as the puller threads you cleaned out?
What size diameter and thread pitch are those guide pins again?
EXCELLENT NICE STEP BY STEP BUT WHY DID YOU NOT SHOOT SOME CLEANER UNDER PRESSURE INSIDE THAT LOWER UNIT KNOWING THE KIND OF CRUD YOU TOOK OUT? I GUESS I AM MR. CLEAN, LOL. VERY GOOD VID, HOPE THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY 90 HP 1997 EVINRUDE, IT IS TOTALLY LOCKED UP. LEFT ON BACK YARD FOR OVER 10 YRS. BY PREVIOUS OWNER.
You out did yourself. Great video !
Hello, my o-ring for the shift shaft seems to be smaller then the 1 in the kit 5006373. Is the kit o-ring correct? Thanks. And the kit came with 2 o-rings
Hi Brandon those guide pins are sold out everywhere, is the thread same as the one you used the tap to clean up? I'm going to need to get the all thread rod if this is going to get done in timely manner, any help would be appreciated on size spec of those guide pins for carrier bearing. Great vid btw👍
Its a fine thread, probably a 28tpi.
The screw you pull out, use those to size it up and get and all thread; itll work jusy as well.
Hey I have everything cleaned up and when I was pulling out the seals of the bearing carrier I chipped the side of it. is that ok if I just put gasket sealing compound on it? I chipped the seal groove on the outside
Hey, do you know the size of the O-Ring for the upper bearing housing. I am from Germany so I need it in mm. I measured 54.6 x 2.6 is that correct or is the thickness 3.0 millimeters? Greetings from Germany from Malte.
Amazing work mate.
Do you know what seal to get for the carrier? part number for the carrier is 332139. I bought the kit but the prop shaft still leaks. Thanks
I would have just got two pieces of all thread the same thread as your $10 apiece guide pins but good job anyway 👍🏻
It not something youre getting locally, have to order it.
After additional shipping, might as well just buy OEM ones.
I did want to ask in one of your videos you mentioned that you sandblast the outdrives. Can you do a video on how you repaint them?
I have been told by one person to use Alodine and alumaprep than zinc chromate primer before paint and clear. Another person i read just goes Rustoleum Self Etching than paint and clear. Would like to know how you do it.
I do a powerhead here-
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Thank you so much. Funny enough i was watching that video as soon as i got the notification of your reply. You earned a sub for sure. Thank you.
Thanks for the video. Really helpful.
whats the part number on the guide pins?
Can that o ring let water get in lower unit
Thanks for the video. I thought I was finished and now I can't get it to go into forward gear. It worked fine before I replaced the seals. Any suggestions on what I might have done wrong ? I am hoping I don't have to pull it apart.
turning the driveshaft while trying to shift into forward?
adjust the shift rod correctly?
Thanks Brandon. I messed with it a little more and realized I was not pulling hard enough on the shift rod. You really have to yank it to put it in forward. Now it seems to work fine. Thanks again for the video and your help.
Excellent thank you
Why is there also a vacuum tester? Pressure good enough?
Nice bench stand for lowers.. did you make it?
Thank you so much
I have a 1991 OMC sea Drive 1.6 what's the torque specifications on the needle bearing it's leaking oil
real good video... I got problem omc 96 115 hp lower unit
i`m going to fix it`s real help your video Thank You ^0^~~~
great video, thanks man
Very Informative tutorial...
I've followed through every detail of the clip until I saw caterpillar pass by on the floor at the bottom right corner @ 37:27 😅
Ha! Saw that huh?
I had to pause video so I could go raid that thing down.
Hey Brandon do you have a video or any tips on inserting the prop shaft and pinion gear in the v6 150 Johnson? The detent linkage broke I got it installed with that spring and bearing. The service manual is pretty foggy on the install. Thanks and great videos!
Sorry, I don't have any videos on it. I haven't rebuilt a v4 case after starting my channel.
You still rock!
Do you have a video of How to repair a stripped drain plug threaded hole?
Use a tap a size bigger after you file the hole smooth then get an aluminum screw the same size and get an o ring or rubber washer to seal it.. before starting it flush the system out thoroughly with the same oil that normally goes in it until it runs withour shavings in it from the filing.. or you can buy a helicoil and they thread a new thread into the hole so no taps Needed there.
Do you have video for Force 85, change clucht dog, or this engine have same structure?
Do you take on side jobs I have a 1978 85hp johnson seahorse v4, pumps water well, but oil leak in front of prop and water leaking at front where lower unit meets exhaust housing. I'm in PA and looking for someone that would do the rebuild.
I'm in CA though
Very good video, keep up the great work!