A Holistic Response to Cultural Decline | Dr Iain McGilchrist | EP31

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  • Dr Iain McGilchrist is a psychiatrist, writer, and former Oxford University literary scholar. McGilchrist came to prominence after the publication of his book The Master and His Emissary, subtitled The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World. In this episode, Luke and Iain discuss his work, focusing on the importance of rediscovering the sacred, viewing the world holistically, and engaging the imagination alongside our reasoning faculties.
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  • @lindosland
    @lindosland 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    There's a very unusual, eerie and evocative hit song from 1967 called 'Ode to Billy Joe' by Bobbie Gentry which has long fascinated me, and it's just struck me that it's an excellent subject for all that is being talked about here. Bobbie Gentry called it 'a study in unconscious cruelty'. A family gathers around the dinner table and the mother announces, 'today Billy Joe jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge' (and killed himself). The conversation is left-brain; facts, 'well he never had a lick o sense' - 'I got work to do' - 'it seems a shame', 'someone saw him with a girl', etc. But one person sitting there quietly has a different view. We sense that she was his girlfriend, though no-one seems to care about that, or wonder how it is affecting her! A twist to this song is that generations of folk have wondered what it was that was thrown off the bridge, but the point of the song is not that, or even what happened, but the fact that most people around that table are 'half brain dead', though not everyone sees that.

    • @aaabluezer
      @aaabluezer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cool that that song reached such popularity. I was always fascinated with it.

    • @lindosland
      @lindosland 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aaabluezer Watch the 1976 film, it's good!

    • @bobdillaber1195
      @bobdillaber1195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I appreciate you sharing that story about Billy Joe.
      . Thank you.

    • @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
      @anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I listened to it and did not find any comfortable attunement to it. Poor music in my ears. Just being honest; and regardless. May I suggest, since we're suggesting musical suggestions, the band Bright Eyes, say, the Fevers and Mirrors album (which came out when the singer was 18). You will find it is once poetic and exact. Much like the Professor, you see. Extremely artistic. He has been called "the new Bob Dylan". He's a lyrical genius. Astonishing insights so profound, from the mundane to the cosmic. Conor Oberst, the singer-songwriter, is perhaps the reincarnation of Edgar Allen Poe. Many similarities. Anyway, it's something different; you might fall in love with it, you might not care. Either way, that's the music that comes into my mind from this conversation and that conversation.

    • @lindosland
      @lindosland หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 I don't know what 'comfortable attunement' is, or why you would expect it. This is about the story, and the inability of the family members in it to 'join the dots' and see the overall picture. That said, I think the music has an eerie uncomfortable feel, perfectly fitted to the story. I will look into your recommendations.

  • @stephenrose1343
    @stephenrose1343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for introducing me to Professor McGilchrist, I will look at his writings.

  • @shanosantwanos3908
    @shanosantwanos3908 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I daily witness a native hawk flying around my workplace as it hunts for field mice..on a recent expedition it came under attack by a group of 5 claw wing pluvers high speed dive attacks...the hawk amazingly performed a barrel roll as his mic drop moment...I often thought about its capabilities but to see it pull it off among many other evasion type tactics and all the while continually scanning the terraform for movement was a moment I will cherish...I feel manifestation and a good connection with nature allowed this experience to unfold for me..
    Cherrio

  • @mattcarey9100
    @mattcarey9100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Great stuff gentlemen

  • @kinghenry100
    @kinghenry100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love the professor

  • @user-ee2gq8zy3k
    @user-ee2gq8zy3k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A great blow of new and fresh air coming to my face. Spain has not sensitive thinkers anymore. God bless you all

  • @Frederer59
    @Frederer59 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think Noah Yuval Harari and Klaus Schwab could qualify as embodiments of what keeps Dr. McGilchrist awake at night the most.

    • @Miguel-ex6mf
      @Miguel-ex6mf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought that too.

  • @flow963
    @flow963 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Excellent. Thank you both.

  • @alisonwilks302
    @alisonwilks302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😍😍😍 what a brilliant video . Thank you xxxxxx

  • @canoedoc2390
    @canoedoc2390 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Life consists of a temporary collection of cosmic dust, arranged in self-replicating, energy management units, that we call cells, in possession of a an evolved and miraculously conscious mind, and set within a universe of infinite time and mystery. An element of gratefulness, compassion, humility, and awe seems appropriate.

  • @heatherc1563
    @heatherc1563 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

  • @danielwoodwardcomposer2040
    @danielwoodwardcomposer2040 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant! Great to hear views I completely agree with.

  • @MikeFuller-ok6ok
    @MikeFuller-ok6ok 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    His interests involve literature, psychology, philosophy, neuroscience, psychiatry, and theology.
    Phew!!

    • @creedandculture
      @creedandculture  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      An impressive man!

    • @MikeFuller-ok6ok
      @MikeFuller-ok6ok 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@creedandculture
      Indeed! Lol! I hate to think what he would think of me.

    • @kateoneal4215
      @kateoneal4215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They're all intrinsically entwined.

    • @MikeFuller-ok6ok
      @MikeFuller-ok6ok 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kateoneal4215
      I'm just going to look up what "intrinsically" means. Lol!

    • @MikeFuller-ok6ok
      @MikeFuller-ok6ok 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Intrinsically" In a natural or essential way. Agreed.

  • @steveygee1
    @steveygee1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From 14:30. Are there any examples of African traditional stories with these hemisphere metaphors. I’ve not heard Iain McGilchrist mention them.
    I’m a huge fan of his and read master and his emissary in 2009-10 which I’m so glad of.

    • @creedandculture
      @creedandculture  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a good question. Don't know the answer myself. Yes his book is amazing!

  • @gmk2222
    @gmk2222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching it a second or third time may well tell oneself about oneself. I dislike the word cynic very much. I’ve been trying to figure out why. This video taught me a lot, over the course of months and many viewings.

  • @christiansmith-of7dt
    @christiansmith-of7dt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're welcome

  • @rikkikeen1859
    @rikkikeen1859 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The vacuum the decline of Christianity has left in the West can’t be understated. The collective need for integration is overwhelming but there is something so “meh” about comparative religion / secular humanism as it lacks embodiment,community, romance etc

  • @RickTashma
    @RickTashma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you both for this! It's a wonderful complement to a recent conversation between Dr. McGilchrist and Damien Walter
    "The Mythos and the Machine"
    th-cam.com/video/Qe10cAAbKqI/w-d-xo.html
    I've been learning from Iain for several years and continue to be inspired by his commitment to save humanity from our overly 'explicit' selves.
    Given that Jordan Peterson came up in the conversation, I will also offer this bit of work which I created several years ago, but only shared publicly in 2023. (It is taken from Jordan's UoT lecture on Existentialism.)
    "Prophetic warnings! Hyper-rationalism and self-doubt are driving us toward self-destruction | #JBP"
    th-cam.com/video/gscVa8hVuk4/w-d-xo.html
    Kind and respectful regards,
    - Richard Tashma
    "Tomorrow's mastery begins with mental calm today."

    • @creedandculture
      @creedandculture  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for these links. Will have a look!

    • @RickTashma
      @RickTashma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@creedandculture - You're most welcome, Luke!

  • @Mtmonaghan
    @Mtmonaghan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How we dwell should and is the preserve of the right side. That is the manifestation of a background set of practices that gather together to give meaning to our world. We let the world show up with meaning that can only be understood by experience, feeling it, and completely disappears when we try and subject it to rigorous interrogation of the left.
    But unfortunately today the dominance of technological gathering rules. Things only show up as resource for us, everything is experienced as challenged by us to be determined by the left. The left is that dominant that it even covers up from us that that is what it is doing. We see a river as a source of green energy or maybe as a location for a hotel for US! We can not get before this challenging forth , to see what is happening. If we don’t learn quickly to dwell in the scared very very quickly, we never will and we will be left hand side creatures for ever, never a slightest notion of the once dominant right hand side. Complete nihilism, nothing matters as it is all equally understood.

  • @havadatequila
    @havadatequila 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do suppose that in the discussion of social decay, there is no mention of class issues?

    • @creedandculture
      @creedandculture  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Our time was limited!

    • @havadatequila
      @havadatequila 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@creedandculture McGilchrist has never mentioned it. Like Jung, he must think people will rationally want to improve their lives because of the obvious benefit. Doesn't work that way.

    • @kateoneal4215
      @kateoneal4215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@havadatequila You're missing his entire premise! Listen to his recent talk at Darwin University. About midway through, he starts speaking directly to the issue you bring up here-- in concrete terms.

    • @havadatequila
      @havadatequila 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kateoneal4215 Dr. Martin said he didn't have time to bring it up, so do you have the time stamp when McGilchrist brings it up?

  • @MrEnniscorthy
    @MrEnniscorthy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iain is in the line of the great Jewish prophets, Isiah, Exechiel, hosea, Jeremiah

  • @mathematicsandstuff
    @mathematicsandstuff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, obviously. Sorry 2b makavelic.

  • @ejenkins4711
    @ejenkins4711 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is christ in the tomb for 3days connected to the female menstrual cycle
    🍀🦍💙

  • @shanosantwanos3908
    @shanosantwanos3908 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jordan is a massive pill popper

    • @MrEnniscorthy
      @MrEnniscorthy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what do you mean?

    • @simonlee8889
      @simonlee8889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's the nicest thing you could say about him... I don't think I could be so benign

  • @courtneybrown6204
    @courtneybrown6204 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You lost me at where we have to go back to when you were young and innocent to find wholeness in society. That means, women don't talk back, marginalized people remain separate as long as a gentile face is put forward. As long as we don't get noisy, everyone is happy. In an ivory tower, perhaps that is true. Enjoy your solitude.

    • @aldebaranredstar
      @aldebaranredstar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Everyone was a child once and hopefully had that experience of openness - I remember some really powerful moments. For example, when I first looked into a tidal pool on the beach and saw all these amazing, colorful, exotic creatures living inside that I had never seen before. It was really a major moment of awe for me. I had never seen anything like it before.