Dr Iain McGilchrist: use NEUROSCIENCE to master your ATTENTION

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  • Dr Iain McGilchrist (@DrIainMcGilchrist ) is a psychiatrist, neuroscience researcher, philosopher and literary scholar. He has written several important books, such as The Master and his Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World (2009) and the recent, The Matter with Things (2021).
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    www.amazon.co.uk/Matter-Thing...
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - intro
    0:29 - Functioning of the Two Cerebral Hemispheres
    1:10 - Attention in Perception and Understanding
    1:45 - The Influence of Context on Perception
    3:11 - Attention on Future Perception and Behavior
    5:35 - Hemispheric Differences & Culture
    13:39 - The Role of Attention in Understanding Reality
    15:52 - Values in Perception and Attention
    34:00 - The Illusion of Materialistic Satisfaction
    37:51 - The Role of Dopamine and Addiction in Our Lives
    47:29 - The Threat of Technology and AI on Human Relationships
    50:17 - The Importance of Humanities in Education
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  • @WorkOutStar2010
    @WorkOutStar2010 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:00 🧠 *Understanding Attention in Neuroscience*
    - Attention is a crucial aspect of neuroscience, influencing how we perceive and interact with the world.
    01:48 🌍 *Attention Shapes Perception*
    - Attention is not just a cognitive function; it actively shapes our perception of the world.
    - Depending on the context, attention alters our view of objects, such as the example of observing a body in various situations.
    - The way we attend to something influences what we see and how we understand it.
    03:24 🔄 *Vicious Circle of Attention and Perception*
    - Attention creates a feedback loop; our preferred mode of attention becomes ingrained for future observations.
    - Different modes of attention serve different purposes, and adopting one mode consistently may lead to a distorted worldview.
    - The importance of understanding the philosophical implications of attention and its impact on human lives.
    05:14 🌐 *Hemispheric Differences and Cultural Manifestations*
    - The hemispheric differences in attention modes contribute to cultural manifestations and institutional dynamics.
    - The split between objective, analytic thinking (left hemisphere) and subjective, intuitive understanding (right hemisphere) affects various aspects of society.
    - Examining how different modes of attention have scaled up and influenced cultural, institutional, and societal structures.
    08:42 🤔 *Left Hemisphere Dominance and Analytic Mindset*
    - The dominance of the left hemisphere in Western history has led to an overemphasis on analytic thinking.
    - The danger of mistaking analytic representation (left hemisphere) for the true, present experience of the world (right hemisphere).
    - A historical perspective on how the preference for analytic thinking has evolved over time.
    11:28 🔄 *Complementary Roles of Hemispheres*
    - The right hemisphere's role in grounding and understanding the world, while the left hemisphere excels in quick, routine procedures.
    - The need for both hemispheres to work together for a balanced and comprehensive perception of reality.
    - The concept of the right hemisphere reintegrating the processed information from the left hemisphere.
    13:31 🌐 *Propositional Tyranny and Reductionist Materialism*
    - The concept of propositional tyranny, where reductionist materialism dominates the philosophical landscape.
    - The reductionist, materialistic view as a consequence of favoring the left hemisphere's analytic mindset.
    - The impact of this reductionist perspective on our understanding of reality and human experience.
    16:54 🔄 *Perception as an Exchange*
    - Perception is viewed as an ongoing exchange and reverberation between the observer and the observed.
    - The dynamic process in which the world affects us, and we, in turn, affect the world through our perception.
    - The idea that perception involves both continuity and change, emphasizing the interplay between the observer and the observed.
    20:35 🧠 *Truth and Certainty*
    - Truth is a changing, evolving relationship with something, approaching it asymptotically.
    - Certainty leads to paradox, as beliefs are not certain but paradigms or theories.
    - The left hemisphere excels in grabbing material wealth but falls short in understanding deeper questions.
    27:15 🎯 *Value and Attention*
    - The scientific focus on attention often avoids discussing its connection to values.
    - Attention is intricately linked to what individuals prioritize, valuing certain aspects over others.
    - The attention economy competes to shape people's values, often leading to a loss of appreciation for the beautiful, good, and true.
    32:05 🔄 *Pursuit of Finite Goods vs. Infinite Goals*
    - Augustine's argument on the pursuit of finite goods and the corruption it brings.
    - The recommendation to pursue the infinite, the transcendent, as the absolute value.
    - The contemporary focus on material pursuits and the resulting impact on mental health and fulfillment.
    36:12 🌐 *Totalitarian Control and Dehumanization*
    - The risk of dehumanization and loss of individual will in the pursuit of total power.
    - Comparisons with historical events, like Hannah Arendt's observations of Nazi Germany.
    - The current societal trends that may lead to dehumanization and loss of autonomy.
    40:30 🔄 *Attention as a Moral Act*
    - Attention is not just beneficial for individuals but has a moral dimension.
    - The transformative power of attention in shaping reality for both the giver and receiver.
    - The misconception of influence being solely quantitative, emphasizing the qualitative impact of attention.
    41:58 🌈 *The Nature of Joy and Empowering Vision*
    - Experience of overwhelming joy is beyond quantification, emphasizing the limitless nature of such experiences.
    - Detaching attention from the left brain's propositional tyranny empowers individuals to explore new possibilities.
    - Robert Sapolsky's deterministic view is challenged, highlighting the importance of preserving agency in decision-making.
    46:33 🌍 *Cultivating Gratitude and Shifting Attention*
    - Gratitude as an intentional attitude: Choosing to focus on the wonders and complexities of the world.
    - The impact of media manipulation on attention, often steering it towards negativity for marketing purposes.
    - The conflict between the richness of day-to-day experiences and the existential distractions posed by emerging technologies.
    50:25 🎓 *Revitalizing Education and Balancing Perspectives*
    - Urgency in reversing the encroaching power of administration and bureaucracy in education.
    - Emphasizing the need for a balanced curriculum, including humanities alongside STEM subjects.
    - Encouraging openness, diverse thinking, and discussions of controversial ideas in academic settings.
    56:10 💻 *The Role of Humanities Online and the Future*
    - Recognizing the potential for the humanities to thrive online, offering diverse and engaging content.
    - Highlighting the character education gained from philosophy, literature, and other humanities disciplines.
    - Proposing a shift in the traditional education system, incorporating more online components while preserving the richness of in-person interactions.
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  • @JohnSmith762A11B
    @JohnSmith762A11B 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    The importance of Dr. McGilchrist's work cannot be overstated. This culture at large will not listen to him, or shift in a sane direction, of course, but as individuals we need to realise that in these ideas lies our own salvation from the misery and idiocy of this awful, lost, collapsing civilisation.

    • @streetlegalone
      @streetlegalone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I agree. He gives us a way of escaping the increasingly nihilistic and toxic view that all we are is language. His work has helped me immeasurably to find an intellectual response to a spiritual crisis.

    • @Boylieboyle
      @Boylieboyle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Extremely well articulated there.

    • @Pegasus4213
      @Pegasus4213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What negativity!

    • @JohnSmith762A11B
      @JohnSmith762A11B 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Pegasus4213 You appear dim. McGilchrist himself says we are about to drown in terminal bureaucracy if we keep letting left-hemisphere-dominant types to set the agenda.

    • @Boylieboyle
      @Boylieboyle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pegasus4213 Not like your mate, Richard Dawkins eh..?

  • @voteutah
    @voteutah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a profound and beautiful discusion. Thank you. At 76 now--where the hell did the time go?!--this is one of the sanest talks I've heard in a while. I'm reminded of Robert Fulgum's "Everything I Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarten." Also Rachael Carrsen's essay, "A Sense of Wonder."

  • @koprinayordanova6419
    @koprinayordanova6419 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Excellent conversation ..! It is an expression of Beauty...Truth.. and Love..! Thank you vary much. 🙏
    Dr. Iain McGilchrist is one of the greatest philosophers of the present time.. along with Ken Wilber. Love them both.💗

  • @Dani68ABminus
    @Dani68ABminus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This was a fabulous dialogue. It flowed so well. Really good. Thank you! Naturally, the content was a much needed shot of sanity in a world gone mad.

  • @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
    @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This was wonderful, and I really appreciate the emphasis on Attention as what sets the horizon according to which our rationality organizes reality “toward” us. This brought to mind Weil’s Attention and Illich’s Awareness, and I think it’s very astute that there might be a war on our Attention precisely so that we only see the world in a way that contributes to technological thinking, which unfortunately proves dehumanizing. The choice of how we will see comes before choosing what we do with what we see, and I appreciate Dr. McGilchrist’s focus on that point. Perhaps when religion was more pronounced in culture, that indirectly trained us to realize that we choose our Awareness, which changed how we saw, but now we have to learn and implement that lesson outside of institutional support. I also love the idea that “attention is a moral act,” and also like the distinction between “process” and “procedure.” An excellent discussion overall!

    • @MahonMcCann
      @MahonMcCann  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for the feedback Daniel! Definitely a topic we should discuss in the future, totally agree the lack of religious infrastructure leads to attention being structured by market and political forces with some severe downsides. From my reading attention seems to be the origins of agency and hence morality, so definitely is the moral act! I've read some of weil previously but will need to look into illichs awareness

    • @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel
      @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@MahonMcCann Great reply, and I would love to speak in the future on this; I indeed think it is highly connected to the fate of religion. Also, I’m in your debt for this talk: I have been putting together Lecture 3 for the class at Parallax Michelle and I are doing on Ivan Illich, and I was trying to figure out a way to tie in Illich “Celebration of Awareness.” This talk was the missing piece we needed! I’m actually making a Powerpoint slide right now referencing you and your work, so thank you!

    • @davidpeet3863
      @davidpeet3863 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is brilliant! attention is our super power and we are only scratching the surface on what is possible for us if we were to gather it into a kind of union within ourselves . Weil is great - I read her on it in Roots. I think ( this is me joining dots) that to purify ourselves in order to give our attention at maximum potential (achieved through surrender and gentleness not effort) means we perceive more and more closely into the present moment which is a realm of levels ( a kingdom unto itself) that takes you into e.g the Eckhardt Tolle ‘ now’ thence onwards beyond time into a profound and sacred relational religious place which is forever present. But which I will not go on about here This is not something you can prove but it is a choice for all of us to decide whether or not to run the programme and find out for ourselves what we can know through making the most of who we are within ( Merton is good on the inner stance) lots to say on all this - it’s up us! Instead of complaining use the problem to step up - Camus says ‘great ideas slip into this world as silently as a dove’. Here is one. Also recall GK Chesterton ‘Christianity has not been tried and found wanting, it has been tried and found too difficult’

  • @helenperala3459
    @helenperala3459 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've just, at 62 and for the first time began to study Plato's Timaeus and Critias and the Turba Philosophorum plus the Republic is waiting for me to read. I have so many books on the go yet my actual attention span is not that good due to past bad diet etc. However, I will march on, flag of curiosity held high. I think Iain's work is both superb and VITAL at this time in order to put the WEST back on track with their more Spiritual sides which seem to all intent and purposes to have disappeared right now! I dislike AI. I don't own a cell phone as I don't want to add another iota of information to my life that is unnecessary. I think Iain lives an exemplary life and I wish more people knew of him although I suspect many already DO. I like that he had the usual Prussian school upbringing (though I imagine his school was better than the one I had to go to, ahem) and that he became an Oxford Don. I admire so much intelligent people like him. I feel if things had been different I would thoroughly have enjoyed the life of a Scholar. As I was saying, his traditional upbringing in the Medical Profession and his new Awareness, or perhaps NOT so new, of the more Quabalistic side of things and the Alchemy of how we all 'come to be', is absolutely necessary in a day and age where people don't know how to THINK for themselves any more. I wish Iain would have a chat with Dr Terry Burns (YT channel on Theorems of John Dee) and have a deep dig into the worries that accompany using AI when not spiritually inclined!! Thank you both, great conversation, worthy of a long comment it seems! :)

  • @AnHebrewChild
    @AnHebrewChild 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mahon, thank you for this interview. Dr McGilchrist, it's a treat to hear your thoughts, as always. They are valuable.
    These couple paragraphs are taken from Charles Darwin's autobiography (public domain)-- it seems appropriate to the theme to post this here.
    "I have said that in one respect my mind has changed during the last twenty or thirty years. Up to the age of thirty, or beyond it, poetry of many kinds, such as the works of Milton, Gray, Byron, Wordsworth, Coleridge, and Shelley, gave me great pleasure, and even as a schoolboy I took intense delight in Shakespeare, especially in the historical plays. I have also said that formerly pictures gave me considerable, and music very great delight. _But now for many years_ I cannot endure to read a line of poetry: I have tried lately to read Shakespeare, and found it so intolerably dull that it nauseated me. I have also almost lost any taste for pictures or music. Music generally sets me thinking too energetically on what I have been at work on, instead of giving me pleasure. I retain some taste for fine scenery, but it does not cause me the exquisite delight which it formerly did. On the other hand, novels which are works of the imagination, though not of a very high order, have been for years a wonderful relief and pleasure to me, and I often bless all novelists. A surprising number have been read aloud to me, and I like all if moderately good, and if they do not end unhappily-against which a law ought to be passed. A novel, according to my taste, does not come into the first class unless it contains some person whom one can thoroughly love, and if it be a pretty woman all the better.
    "This curious and lamentable loss of the higher aesthetic tastes is all the odder, as books on history, biographies and travels (independently of any scientific facts which they may contain), and essays on all sorts of subjects interest me as much as ever they did. _My mind seems to have become a kind of machine for grinding general laws out of large collections of facts, but why this should have caused the atrophy of that part of the brain alone, on which the higher tastes depend, I cannot conceive._ A man with a mind more highly organised or better constituted than mine, would not I suppose have thus suffered; and if I had to live my life again I would have made a rule to read some poetry and listen to some music at least once every week; for perhaps the parts of my brain now atrophied could thus have been kept active through use. The loss of these tastes is a loss of happiness, and may possibly be injurious to the intellect, and more probably to the moral character, by enfeebling the emotional part of our nature."
    The Autobiography of Charles Darwin, pgs 138-139. (italics mine, for emphasis)

    • @MahonMcCann
      @MahonMcCann  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @anhebrewchild very appropriate paragraph! Can't belive I never saw this before, thanks for sharing and the kind words 🙌

  • @noreenquinn3844
    @noreenquinn3844 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for a great discussion.
    I would love to hear Professor Robert Sapolsky and Dr. Iain Mcgilchrist discuss Prof. Sapolsky's new book.
    Similarly, a joint discussion between Donald Hoffman, Bernardo Kastrup, Iain Mcgilchrist and Robert Sapolsky would be wonderful.

  • @justintindall9515
    @justintindall9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Marketing needs to be hold accountable!

  • @justintindall9515
    @justintindall9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I went and saw Hamlet 3 times in a row in Sping Green, Wisconsin, Frank Lloyd Wright's birth place. I suggest as one of the greatest moments of my life.

  • @Kyle-Mace
    @Kyle-Mace 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great conversation :)

  • @corinnecothern8086
    @corinnecothern8086 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A beautiful conversation! ~ the engagement, intelligence and passion ~ I love it so much 🌷

  • @justintindall9515
    @justintindall9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just want to say that the level of your discussion is overwhelming. Wish, I had as a kid such accessible knowledge. Question is while it make the world a better place?

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Develop a relationship with your right brain explore live, create, dance, write and read poetry, read myths, grab paints and canvas play with painting or drawing, go for walk in nature just to to it not for a reason. Find joy. Limit exposure to social media and news and TV.

  • @aek12
    @aek12 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On of the most important man in recent times.

  • @scottjrowan
    @scottjrowan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fantastic question and conversation once again Mahon. Thanks for what you are doing and the people who you are bringing to your channel.🙏

    • @MahonMcCann
      @MahonMcCann  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for listening Scott and the kind words 🙏

    • @scottjrowan
      @scottjrowan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MahonMcCann Your content and interests are fantastic. I love how you included insights from John Vervaeke within your conversation with Iain, as for me they are the two transformative thinkers of our time. Thanks again, warm regards Scott 🙏

  • @timowuerz9157
    @timowuerz9157 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a wonderful conversation. Thanks so much!😊🤘

  • @richardedward123
    @richardedward123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've heard several conversations with Ian this year. This one is my favorite. Thank you, Mahon. Cheers from Texas, USA.

    • @MahonMcCann
      @MahonMcCann  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much Rich, great to hear! 🙏

  • @kimberlymatt8949
    @kimberlymatt8949 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant! I wish I could inject my students with this understanding!

  • @duffyelectric3320
    @duffyelectric3320 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great job by you both. Very interesting talk. It’s a look into what is happening and we’re the culture is headed. I think you’re doing a great job Mahon, of pointing these things out and raising other peoples awareness because then they have a chance to make their own decisions and do something about it. That’s the way forward because people will do something about it once they understand what’s happening.

  • @ChrisOgunlowo
    @ChrisOgunlowo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful conversation.

  • @siowat7911
    @siowat7911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you so much for making this video, it covers so much of what has been on my mind. May God bless you both.
    I believe that God is the truth. He is the one certainty and we can only approach Him asymptotically as Iain McGilchrist says (we all see through the vale dimly). He is what we are looking for; it is in Him that our answers are found. I believe that God solves the problem that post-modernism has presented, but we can still argue about who God is.

  • @adunzoroq33
    @adunzoroq33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a perfect ending to this great conversation, loved it! Well done, Ian was brilliant and I loved the big hearty laugh on the story of your grandfather and the rise of computers 😂
    So much solid wisdom !

  • @justintindall9515
    @justintindall9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The outdoor theater is amazing

  • @richardgagnon5170
    @richardgagnon5170 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wow! what a similarity with the works of Alan Watts, the Brithish philosopher, whose main opus is THE WAY OF ZEN, published decades ago, reconciliating western and eastern "philosophy/religions" and exposed that ultimate reality cannot be grasped by the analytic mind, and that evolution made us intuitive and feeling in essence. We are that.

  • @maggen_me7790
    @maggen_me7790 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Conversation!

  • @J0hnC0ltrane
    @J0hnC0ltrane 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The recognition of the state of being is the quality in the higher good. Value of attaining knowledge is above and beyond the act of possessing the material thing. Thank you for this presentation.

  • @udo9999
    @udo9999 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!

  • @JimZalewski
    @JimZalewski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My most perplexing dilemmas how do we promote and grow in a system that traps us by financial obligation. How do we correct the economic aspects?

  • @geoffbowcher3189
    @geoffbowcher3189 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there is still hope for us if we think and discuss such topics as relationships or love , rather than the materialistic , left brain view. thankyou for sharing and caring.

  • @kaisersozay99
    @kaisersozay99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank u

  • @1stgrelf
    @1stgrelf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You. This is one of my favourite Winter 2023 Conversations. 🌑🌒🌏🌀💫

  • @robertwhiteley-yv1sy
    @robertwhiteley-yv1sy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After reading Ian’s books I understand the management structure and behaviour so much more.

  • @tomgreene1843
    @tomgreene1843 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great to see this young man in Dublin....how has he avoided the frequent poison from the Irish 3rd level machine and the mass media.

  • @orsisrutherford4705
    @orsisrutherford4705 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I discovered Iain McGilchrist about 8 years ago. I am glad he is getting more attention. He is awesome. I also recommend Julian Jaynes and his bicameral mind theory.

  • @missh1774
    @missh1774 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Farowt. Very cool. Amazing

  • @WindTurbineSyndrome
    @WindTurbineSyndrome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listen again to the quote at . Wow 34:15 min in. Profound. Having stuff doesn't make people happier.

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Music dance and poetry and walking in nature are fulfilling ...it has no point only good fulfilling and enjoyable mit for any reason than that.

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He said he found and research suggest People who suffered a great deal and had very little were done if the most stable and fulfilled people than people who had been given and driven a lot but were never satisfied. -

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      43:30 min in listen several times to this. Don't give up that freedom! AI only works on what it is programmed to do only decides steps. Human imagination is key. It's not a procedure it is a process living and changing not divisible into steps. Important ways of thinking on problems we need to address in world environment ....change if heart critical to it not consideration of how it will benefit us. Think differently critical. Just benefit cost ratio won't get it anyway. We won't change in that. Open to awareness of complexity of world to live in for a while (IMHO so profound).

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dr Drew Pinsky has said the same as Dr Mcgilchrist. Medicine needs to be between patient and doctor not insurance not government Drew said. He said COVID narrative made him realize we were headed in a very wrong direction.

  • @Zeitaluq
    @Zeitaluq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Around 14 minutes it could be the left hemisphere wants to compartmentalise or define the phenomenon being with material objects. Perhaps enabled Homo Habilis to make Olduwan tools from rocks. The left hemisphere attenuates to the pragmatic aspects of existence on the Savannah grass plaines. If there is any corrections would be open to know. The left hemisphere labels items and phenomenon and right hemisphere can make connections and decisions beyond data retention.

  • @chaitrakeshav
    @chaitrakeshav 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

  • @justintindall9515
    @justintindall9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Adam Smith's profit motive drives things but to what extent should it control things?

  • @Pegasus4213
    @Pegasus4213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All I can hear here is included in the term neuroscience, a view of reality that adopts the view that all is physical. Am I wrong about that?

    • @juicedgoose
      @juicedgoose 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You might find this video useful: Beyond The Mechanistic Conception of Reality - Iain McGilchrist & Philip Goyal in Conversation.

    • @Pegasus4213
      @Pegasus4213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@juicedgoose Thank you for the link!

  • @terrymuldoon9414
    @terrymuldoon9414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need a conversation between Iain and Karl Friston.

    • @MahonMcCann
      @MahonMcCann  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be a fantastic conversation!

  • @natashapope3785
    @natashapope3785 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The tourist trade will be pleased. I need to see the beautiful mountain.

  • @luminyam6145
    @luminyam6145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great conversation, unfortunately too much of it went straight over my head. I fear I am just not smart enough to grasp this.

    • @JohnSmith762A11B
      @JohnSmith762A11B 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, this happens, and more and more frequently as I get older. I started feeling the intellectual gears slipping all the way back in my thirties. So listen up kiddies: use it before you lose it!

  • @sapienspace8814
    @sapienspace8814 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "We need to wake up!" -Ian
    Great talk, thank you for sharing!
    @ 44:20 That is very interesting about imagination. Ian claims AI has no imagination, but depending on what "imagination" is, IMHO, agent AI is likely to have a greater imagination than humans to the degree of randomness available. I agree with Ian in that it is true that agent AI may not be great at imagination because it is actually difficult for computers to generate truly random numbers. Most machines generate pseudo random numbers and this limits imagination. However, the degree of randomness might be able to exceed humans and so agent AI can, theoretically, have greater imagination than humans if it can generate truly random numbers. This assumes imagination is highly correlated with degrees of randomness and chaos.

  • @skemsen
    @skemsen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh did Mr. McGilchrist just diss Bernardo Kastrup? 😄 I would love to see a debate between those two.

  • @justintindall9515
    @justintindall9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enough is enough!

  • @majdavojnikovic
    @majdavojnikovic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember some comedy sketch qith Amish who don't use technology younger than 1980 ( or similar).
    :))))
    It was so funny, but now I can imagine it as a life choice. :))))

  • @theobservereffectexplained1102
    @theobservereffectexplained1102 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great conversation with depth and insight in to humanity. Because humans have the capacity to imagine and adapt to change it has been difficult to understand or control human by human. So new efforts has been devised to control human nature via AI that few humans can control. In a way or another way to create consumer slaves by exploiting their attention. With 8 billion people in the world why do we need AI?

  • @shawnewaltonify
    @shawnewaltonify 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Since Mcgilchrist describes what a society would look like that succeeded in LH completely dominating RH, it can be said that AI could prove useful to saving our civilization by outcompeting those individuals who are doing so; thereby, putting selective pressure on the trait of RH having supremacy over the LH.

  • @aek12
    @aek12 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do a interview with robert edward Grant

  • @DarranUaM
    @DarranUaM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For anybody interested the fact that quantum indeterminacy dominates after eight billiard ball collisions can be seen in the paper:
    Origin of probabilities and their application to the multiverse
    Andreas Albrecht and Daniel Phillips
    Phys. Rev. D 90, 123514
    It's quoted in Table 1 of that paper.
    This improves on an estimate by D.J. Raymond of 11 collisions from his 1967 paper:
    How Determinate is the “Billiard Ball Universe”?
    Am. J. Phys. 35, 102-103
    Another interesting one is that quantum mechanics induces fundamental unpredictability in a bumper car ride after 25 collisions.
    For clarity "multiverse" in the title of the paper is a technical term for regions of space outside of our cosmological observable horizon, it doesn't refer to the comic book style notion of "alternate worlds".

    • @MahonMcCann
      @MahonMcCann  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fantastic thanks darran! Was searching for a reference on that

    • @someone3533
      @someone3533 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder how can you determine whether your Master is sick/twisted/infected/corrupted or not? One thing is for sure: its Emissary is in good shape. So I'd like to politely ask It to exactly define what "our cosmological observable horizon" is.

  • @2550205
    @2550205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The chemists who lived along the Nile for about as long as the chasm in present understanding of past real ity is wide...seemed to thing the mine was in the body and the brain was a disposable and after the lights go out useless soup to be washed out of the real mind and the record bears this thought out...the body needs a big battery 🔋 and the brain fits the bill like all balls do when inspiring an idea with action
    Youve pushed the envelope this far open now go the distance and find out where the paper came from and the lights will come back on as the ultimate product of all elechemagnetoic processes do do to make you you

  • @francescahollander3552
    @francescahollander3552 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We must be aware of the limitations of language. Concepts discussed are still mind examing mind still trapped in the mo key mind .

  • @gyurilajos7220
    @gyurilajos7220 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Map does not represents but presents. Representation is a left hemisphere approach presentation is right hemisphere. It's told distinction Darstellung Vs Vorstellung see Allan Janik & Stephen Toulmin's Wittgenstein's Vienna

  • @2550205
    @2550205 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:55
    In the same context you see if you read the pre Aristotle Plato you know that in book after paragraph after sentence after word after letter expressing real ity in the ity bitty detail pointed to that any arith maniac will know...absent a mean from which extremes are identifiable as reciprocal allies to determine a center the mean in G is devoid
    Of any meaning in any key including A4 measured at 432 the radius of the sun spinning this pale blue ball round 15 degrees an hour along a longer spiral returning a years effort at 67000 miles each hour to an imaginary place often identified as the end of a year which would be the middle if the maps were drawn
    Tomorrow a day which the Chemists are not waiting for today

  • @arranpattison5809
    @arranpattison5809 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In a nutshell... The left hemisphere sees the trees without the forest the right hemisphere sees the forest but understands it needs the left to see the trees perhaps?

  • @justintindall9515
    @justintindall9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our are more younger people going to misconstrued trueth from fact. We are in a world were our children are being blinded bye marketing and something needs to be done.

  • @justintindall9515
    @justintindall9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't you think that is about how marketing has taken over the world?

  • @xuibliminal
    @xuibliminal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    life costs

  • @siyaindagulag.
    @siyaindagulag. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The question posed at min.
    51:00.?
    The solution to which imo , lay in breaking the beaureaucratic, proto-authoritarian shackling of bright, promising and talented young folk who fall into the clutches of the bloated , Dunning-Kruger afflicted machine of your garden variety "Social Science" dept. of your local high school.
    Computer databases have nothing(Yes, pun intended), on these (ahem)! ....people.

  • @ebythebeach
    @ebythebeach 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is the relationship between dopamine, stability and organized religion? I heard religious people are more happy because of stability, is that true?

  • @gregbrown5020
    @gregbrown5020 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AI yt title 😢

  • @tristantinnon1926
    @tristantinnon1926 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sophia and Logos. Basically some Universal Pagan Christianity here. In the very brain and world beyond it.

  • @Corteum
    @Corteum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why neuroscience? Buddhist's and other meditation systems have been using techniques to master their attention for over two and a half thousand years.

  • @matthewstokes1608
    @matthewstokes1608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I know that IM is light years ahead of me on these matters - but I come out to bat for the left hemisphere in my reflections - despite having initially agreed fully with all his wise description of the flaws of relying too heavily on it - as far too many people now seem to…
    The increasingly ridiculous absurdity of western culture and its dreadful collapse in morality and common sense seems to make his points startling clear…
    The Processing nature - the wary and prevaricating tendencies of the right hemisphere make it a danger, too. Christianity - and God the Father - may only be grasped in the manner that Christ commands us so to do - and can only be committed to (perhaps in some instances) by eagerly permitting the childlike will to belief to have it’s way somewhat recklessly - in order for the “penny to drop”…
    I think of the still very young King David - and the gusto of the young shepherd boy to take on the evil Goliath and slay him by the will of God… Many such examples of selfish heroicism throughout history (Nelson, T E Lawrence, etc) may never have happened if we were too reliant on the safe old right non-committal “maiden aunt” of the right hemisphere…?! Am I wrong here?! (Probably!)
    This willingness for the intuitively decent (mysterious) part of our better natures to commit against “wiser reason” seems to be a case in point for the argument against vilifying the left hemisphere too far - even artistically -( which I concede is NOT something that the excellent McGilchrist ever does- BUT I think worth pointing out all the same, by myself - a committed and mercifully joyous Christian who strongly believes (on a flying hunch as atheists or Hindus may judge it!) that commitment to Christ ALONE will work mysterious wonders for our credentials as would be “eternally rewarded children of the eternal Light of Truth”…
    Remember this - we followers of this Light know that it powerfully refutes and rebukes ALL contemporary Scientific belief (and “selfish gene reasoning”) in a dark, predictable future of death and the “inevitable” extinction of all life…
    This “settled science” pertaining to our mortality is something which I remind all non believers is a “fact” that all true Christians categorically refute as abhorrent rubbish! …. )
    Peace!
    Keep THINKING with both hemispheres at their utmost just as designed! and I pray God will make absolute sense even if the wild card in the deck as too many of us today seem so selfishly to think!

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been chewing on some of these same things, especially since I read IM's Master & his Emissary, but now I have the pleasure of thinking on them, mediated and helped along by some of your very cool thoughts.
      > <
      And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
      _
      While we walk the narrow way, we grow shorter, as it were, not taller and we become more childlike.
      Science and learning isn't the primary point here, but "the Hebrew children" from the book of Daniel, and from where I draw my username, were in all matters of wisdom and science and understanding found ten times better than all the magi and astrologers in the king's realm. (1:20) Some of the reasons for this, I think, are hidden in the simple wisdom of childlike wonder and _trust._
      "From what I know of Dad, I think he would make the light to bend _this_ way and not that. It seems like he would send photons forth by two and two ie in entangled pairs."
      The young shepherd King hazarded his own soul to take on the Giant, at least partly due to his identity being derived not only from his own sole self but in broader relationship, and most importantly in relationship to his Father. What part the right and left sides of the brain each play in David's and others' heroics, I'll leave to the adults to answer :D Though it's fun to think on and ponder.
      Thank you for your comment.

    • @matthewstokes1608
      @matthewstokes1608 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AnHebrewChild … Well, what do you know! A Brother :) …
      All I can say is that you seem to understand precisely what I meant .. and you gave an uplifting response that has made my day!
      Thanks, amigo, and God Bless

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewstokes1608 you too! It was super refreshing for me to encounter your comment. It put a bit of a spring in my step this afternoon. Hope to see ya around...
      Have a good one.

    • @matthewstokes1608
      @matthewstokes1608 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnHebrewChild maybe see you up there, let’s hope! God Bless.
      Stay cool!

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewstokes1608just keep closely following after the Lord Jesus (like a kid)... and I will too!
      Peace to you :]