Game Theory: WARNING! Loot Boxes are Watching You RIGHT NOW!

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    In our last episode, I talked about how loot boxes are used to hack your brain. It turns out that this may be the least of your worries. In fact, there may be something much more sinister going on that deeply affects your individual privacy. Get ready, Loyal Theorists, because I'm gonna reveal how loot boxes are used to SPY on gamers!
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  • @leonpgut
    @leonpgut 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29599

    What a geniune apology that was. You can really see that it comes from his heart and he realized he made a mistake. #matgang4life

    • @stacymorad6921
      @stacymorad6921 6 ปีที่แล้ว +383

      Haha

    • @kaitlynistired6814
      @kaitlynistired6814 6 ปีที่แล้ว +472

      I’m crying lmao

    • @JdavisBro.
      @JdavisBro. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +576

      #matgang4life

    • @Rajclaw
      @Rajclaw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +245

      King Luigi i teared up s little...

    • @daddysatan9154
      @daddysatan9154 6 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      Well done for getting pinned my friend

  • @arinath4834
    @arinath4834 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1180

    That apology was so real and everyone makes mistakes.
    #LeaveMatPatAlone

  • @VoidlessHue
    @VoidlessHue 6 ปีที่แล้ว +645

    That Beginning. Dissing both EA and Logan Paul at the same time. Brilliant!

    • @aethertoast4320
      @aethertoast4320 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Divinefavour Adebayo Actually it is more Bungie/Activision that is repeatedly saying that they hear people and will do better and then sneak in some sneaky things in Destiny 2.

    • @acshente
      @acshente 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Aether Toast no, its both. Ea has been horrible about it forever, and activision/bungie in the last 4 months

    • @tatuini
      @tatuini 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ea isn’t as bad as activision tbh, you literally have to pay to be able to have a gamble of unlocking an item that you can’t unlock otherwise, ea just makes it so that the process is faster for you, however you can get it done without spending money

    • @aethertoast4320
      @aethertoast4320 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LegitPwnz actually what EA does is arguably worse. They purposefully ruin the game to fight your patience to resist microtransactions over having fun on something you bought already. So yeah you are right: EA isn't as bad as Bungie/Activision, they are far worse.

    • @tobznoobs
      @tobznoobs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      EA is the worst, Bungie/Activision and 2k are not far behind

  • @riku1200
    @riku1200 6 ปีที่แล้ว +702

    I would still buy a theory crate

    • @I_Stole_Your_Toast
      @I_Stole_Your_Toast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep!

    • @loganhennessy4490
      @loganhennessy4490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here

    • @DesertCrochet
      @DesertCrochet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do too!

    • @Diamonddragon7506
      @Diamonddragon7506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I had the money I would too

    • @carolinacortesmartinez4305
      @carolinacortesmartinez4305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If it was like, the box contains clues that Matpat has seen in a game and you need to put the dots and make a cringy video (no offense to Mat) about it, I would buy one

  • @sqsu
    @sqsu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    [Opens M&M pack]
    "Why is there a peanut one in here?!"
    "Oh well, might as well get another one to see if its pretzel..."
    [SELLS STORE OUT]
    "Aw man! Almond?!?!"

  • @boooper.dooper
    @boooper.dooper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    Damn Matpat threw mad shade XD

    • @Zaradorian
      @Zaradorian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YaoixNation TM i like this matpat

    • @TheMjalltheway
      @TheMjalltheway 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YaoixNation TM troll level to the maxx

    • @chronicalgameryt6707
      @chronicalgameryt6707 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      YaoixNation TM lol tru

  • @UltimatePowa
    @UltimatePowa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    So this means I should hover over skins I *_don't_* want so the system thinks I want the skin, and there for doesn't give it to me?

    • @MaximillianRobesphere
      @MaximillianRobesphere 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yep^^

    • @MantaKizaemonFTW
      @MantaKizaemonFTW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You found a loophole

    • @ECKtrain
      @ECKtrain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I will now do that! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @lordvoldemort8742
      @lordvoldemort8742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or just do this. IMPERIO!

    • @dragonrider7101
      @dragonrider7101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lordvoldemort8742 Yes... Master...
      (Harry Potter references are always appreciated no matter after the context)

  • @minimogamer6482
    @minimogamer6482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    I cant spend money if I dont have any hahaha
    I’m not crying 😭

    • @JasakutheLeafeon
      @JasakutheLeafeon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't even have a card so I can buy online

    • @gaylesimpson8667
      @gaylesimpson8667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That can be arranged >:)

    • @Ethan.YT.
      @Ethan.YT. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No im not crying your crying

    • @Itsbully06
      @Itsbully06 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

    • @omeagadeku7180
      @omeagadeku7180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My broke hommie

  • @Lemonaidz7
    @Lemonaidz7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    You know this reminds me of that one scene in Spongebob where Spongebob spends all his money on packs of cards for just one card and then Patrick buys the last pack and gets that card

    • @TheDerpyderpyderp
      @TheDerpyderpyderp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mr Chowder he gets all of them

    • @Tommylop1982
      @Tommylop1982 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Charlie Brown and Lucy did the same joke

    • @kyndsiwasek8499
      @kyndsiwasek8499 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mr Chowder DAMNIT PATRICK

    • @jamesie532
      @jamesie532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mr Chowder do you know de wae

    • @sebastianasaro6791
      @sebastianasaro6791 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MERMAID MAN SAYS: "Buy more cards!"

  • @lastheavens
    @lastheavens 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1731

    But the question is… did he monetize the apology?

    • @witchydragon106
      @witchydragon106 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      He did.

    • @connordrook5720
      @connordrook5720 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      That is very scummy

    • @burgerflickr3253
      @burgerflickr3253 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Samidoesstuff Lmao Bruh

    • @memesarecool4363
      @memesarecool4363 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      OoOoooooOOOOOooooooooof 🐼🐼🐼🐼 #pandagang #freerobuxisascam have a nice day

    • @anamorphicalan
      @anamorphicalan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wow he is terrible person

  • @osclint
    @osclint 6 ปีที่แล้ว +410

    Even if they kinda control my mind.. They can't push me to buy stuff...
    bcuz i really don't have money or i won't have lunch and dinner..

    • @user-hq4vc8br7o
      @user-hq4vc8br7o 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Clint Middleton same

    • @breadwithtoast2947
      @breadwithtoast2947 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clint Middleton z

    • @user-mj2uc7ut1e
      @user-mj2uc7ut1e 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My family barely has enough money to pay:
      Food
      Education
      Transport
      Bills
      Taxes

    • @MaximillianRobesphere
      @MaximillianRobesphere 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't let it push you to start buying when you get older(if relevant) or whenever you do have money think of food whenever you feel that pang.

    • @shortgiraffe700
      @shortgiraffe700 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I never spend real money on a game

  • @kalakazam6562
    @kalakazam6562 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This is too depressing to watch, reminding me that companies are just going to keep doing this and find more ways to take more and more money.

  • @kennethalvara1661
    @kennethalvara1661 6 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Don't worry Mat, we stand with you #MatPatGang4lyfe

  • @Valravna
    @Valravna 6 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    Man it is getting savage up in here lmao. That intro

    • @Meocross
      @Meocross 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SAVAGE UNLIMITED.

    • @maelys199
      @maelys199 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Playing the algorithm, the Logan Paul Shame Game, and dissing EA's SWBF2 response all in one. All in the span of the intro. Damn, son.

    • @ruffscetch
      @ruffscetch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My god, I laughed so hard at that intro

  • @SpetsnazUS
    @SpetsnazUS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    But... If you have trading cards you can trade the cards you don’t want or sell them. If you have loot crates in games only some games allow players to trade/sell the items. So I’m the case of games that allow people to give their winnings to another player in exchange for something they may want/to sell the item one could easily argue that it is not gambling as pointed out in the video. However, a game that forced you to take the item(s) you don’t want and doesn’t allow you to do anything with them might as well have given you nothing thus making it more like gambling.

    • @alexchancey6081
      @alexchancey6081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Everything is bad that you buy in games

    • @skoutah
      @skoutah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@alexchancey6081 That's not true at all, any game with a trading system will make the items worth a specific real life amount.
      If a game doesn't have a trading system, it comes down to account selling. Some Fortnite accounts with a lot of old/rare skins can be worth THOUSANDS.

    • @syNM94
      @syNM94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@skoutah Almost all Games, I have seen, specify is illegal for others to use one's account or TO HAVE multiple accounts. So, this technically is not possible (?

    • @alexdlocoa
      @alexdlocoa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can sell your game with stuff on it.

    • @nobodywilleverknow8371
      @nobodywilleverknow8371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a good take, a trading system would be great for some games...

  • @nerdyfoxes8000
    @nerdyfoxes8000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "You always get something" Ah yes. Please tell that to my 6 million duplicates along with all other silver portraits. And no, getting like. 25 credits doesn't count as "getting something"

  • @Looooren
    @Looooren 6 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    imagine if in the end he said: "and this video was sponsored by lootcrate!"

    • @glu9165
      @glu9165 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rafael Lorenzetto that's different tho cause you have an idea of what you're gonna get, you always get the same type and number of items, and everyone gets the same items.

    • @realPidge
      @realPidge 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jonathan Terry are you sure...

    • @rainevermore4683
      @rainevermore4683 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think wisecrack did something similar in a video talking about fighting capitalism. In the end, after talking about it's futility, they do a commercial for sunglasses and fancy watches. It was a pretty hilarious transition though.
      link: th-cam.com/video/SSEVmgebSKw/w-d-xo.html

    • @sanspapyrus9564
      @sanspapyrus9564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      but you're not supposed to do it at the end
      unless its raid shadow legends, in fact, never even sponser them

  • @Gameatronic9000
    @Gameatronic9000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    you did NOT just do that.
    you did NOT just copy that video for the intro.
    i can't take it
    i can't take it anymore
    that was just TOO funny

    • @jonasrains7998
      @jonasrains7998 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gameatronic9000 hi

    • @damen1776
      @damen1776 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      gameatronic9000,
      you suck

    • @Gameatronic9000
      @Gameatronic9000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i know that i suck, i just wanted to comment that it was a funny intro.

    • @tassadar7945
      @tassadar7945 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That was a beautiful double satire. Not many people can pull that off.

  • @Bitgedon
    @Bitgedon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    *Rips open card pack*
    Omg i got the gold foil, platinum text, heavy metal card stock, 2017, red blue, gold, energy laced, living, knights of the blood oath asuna card and the next cards is the omg its the gold stock super energy frickathon 10k edition 2018 super mega lead fused sinon card. best pack ever

  • @prismaticat
    @prismaticat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    loot-bag of skittles made my sides traverse universes

  • @ErikBrady1776
    @ErikBrady1776 6 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The intro was too good

  • @blakebrown5855
    @blakebrown5855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Little did the lootboxes know:
    _I watch back._

  • @benjaminbeaudry8642
    @benjaminbeaudry8642 6 ปีที่แล้ว +500

    I feel like these vids are just matpat justifying his gambling addiction

    • @chickdove9572
      @chickdove9572 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Benjamin Beaudry he tells you BOTH SIDES

    • @Demicleas
      @Demicleas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      chickdove oh really what about the greatest worrior theroy...

    • @c.b.t.c802
      @c.b.t.c802 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      What gambling addiction he only has an addiction to diet coke

    • @epicpeachtime
      @epicpeachtime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JC-JC Station That we know of! DUN DUN DUUUUUN!!!

    • @snarkysoujo5654
      @snarkysoujo5654 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      id rather have nothing then something i dont ever use or dont want, mostly overwatch has an overwhelming wave of crap in their boxes, sprays and logos were free in other games, such as TF2 the carbon copy of this game. Now its being used to justify you getting "something" so its not "gambling"

  • @crazykidgaming4965
    @crazykidgaming4965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Lugi lost his 500+ million dollars gambling
    Don’t be be like Lugi,
    Don’t gamble.

    • @lordvoldemort8742
      @lordvoldemort8742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or just Imperius the casino staff to give you all the money.

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 6 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    That intro was golden!

    • @bobey5022
      @bobey5022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      W H A T
      A R E
      *Y O U*
      D O I N G
      H E R E ?

    • @Landon-dd4nn
      @Landon-dd4nn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly your everywhere

    • @NotSouls
      @NotSouls 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why are you everywhere
      Wait,
      Stick is always everywhere
      That means...
      StickMaster500 = Sans

    • @Landon-dd4nn
      @Landon-dd4nn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      UnluckySouls I just realized the meaning of life

  • @dynamicdimensions4763
    @dynamicdimensions4763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    After Doki Doki, MatPat has been really enjoying the glitch effect

    • @angelcortez
      @angelcortez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      bruh, he was still using it before that, more like after FNAF

  • @Arlekienen
    @Arlekienen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Bless you for giving a shoutout to Jim Sterling. I have watched the guy for years, and I'm grateful that somebody finally saw the incredible job and research he puts into his work. With all his silly aesthetic and behaviour, many dismiss him, but he's amazing when it comes to analysing gaming industry bullshit. So thank you for acknowledging the work of smaller TH-camrs. I hope this increases the number of people that watch Jim.
    (and, of course, great episode you've done, Matpat!)

  • @dylanrace8765
    @dylanrace8765 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I didn’t even finish this episode before I sent it to my friend. Easily my FAVORITE episode ever!! It’s uniquely fascinating and is super relevant to us!

  • @joyit6062
    @joyit6062 6 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    The start had me dead

    • @d1pstick
      @d1pstick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Joyit i see what you did there

    • @mcoupe69
      @mcoupe69 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be easy

    • @maineventmafia1633
      @maineventmafia1633 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Joyit watch it, Logan might come record you

    • @joyit6062
      @joyit6062 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Khalil Elder haha loool

    • @Lexi-hx1mf
      @Lexi-hx1mf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I dunno, it kinda left me hanging

  • @BrainlessActivity6000
    @BrainlessActivity6000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Did you text Nicolas back yet?

  • @talaleclair_native8893
    @talaleclair_native8893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I feel bad foor him, he looks like he was about to cry 😢

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for telling us how to hypnotize people into spending their money.

  • @PerverseMilk
    @PerverseMilk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    But did you text Nicholas back?

    • @nicholaswingate4740
      @nicholaswingate4740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My name is Nicholas and yes he did text me back. we smashed

    • @Metrion77
      @Metrion77 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't know anyone still played smash bros anymore. I'm betting matpat took peepachu and you were king dedede

  • @Archimo
    @Archimo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    10/10 opening

    • @ozzy3128
      @ozzy3128 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Archimo I didn't understand what he was trying to say...

    • @Archimo
      @Archimo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      he is referring to EA games at the end statement of sneaking them in again later Tbh it made me chuckle a bit.
      Also poking a bit at the whole logan paul thing with the clips and you know using the same kinda sentence build up.

  • @LoverOfStuff
    @LoverOfStuff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:15 Holy hecc
    I just realized why they’re called Gacha[Insert Gacha game here]
    CAUSE ITS ALL BASICALLY RANDOM!!
    I feel stupid

    • @albertnortononymous9020
      @albertnortononymous9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s actually because of the “gachagacha” sound that is typical of coin-op random-capsule vending machines in Japan. You might have seen “gachapon” as well because of the “pon” sound that happens when a capsule drops out of the machine.

  • @Isa.esthetics
    @Isa.esthetics 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg this makes total sense, literally LOL does this with its shops, u can buy skins for characters that u played the most in the past season. Genius

  • @moppski8500
    @moppski8500 6 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    I love how Logan Paul created so many enemies that literally no other content creator has any sympathy for him

    • @Al.j.Vasquez
      @Al.j.Vasquez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tactical Pikachu have you ever heard about Vegan gains?

    • @hotsaucexo
      @hotsaucexo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it's beautiful

    • @The_hot_blue_fire_guy
      @The_hot_blue_fire_guy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Khotta Bogard Who is vegan games?

    • @sio8760
      @sio8760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The_hot_blue_fire_guy oh you don’t wanna know

  • @nazl3198
    @nazl3198 6 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Hah, you can't trick me, rich company! I have no money to spend! TAKE THAT.

    • @GoatsOnABoat-rt1wz
      @GoatsOnABoat-rt1wz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Friskie that was cringeworthy

    • @nabila7115
      @nabila7115 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jokes on you companies!

    • @Heavy39
      @Heavy39 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      *GASP*
      NANI?????

    • @praisechukwuma4210
      @praisechukwuma4210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frisky And my attention span is too small!

  • @lilbeth-xc4dq
    @lilbeth-xc4dq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And literally before the Game Theory intro starts, I liked the video. That's a beautiful apology!

  • @atmosquake3090
    @atmosquake3090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Clarify please, are Casinos not giving you something in the form of rewards points in exchange for your money? Even if you lose money you get rewards points right? So, hypothetically, a game could give you XP or progression points even if the bow you opened had nothing else inside and that should, logically, count as gambling.

  • @Ducktle
    @Ducktle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Cuphead is really the story of two young cup and mug boys who sell their souls for 2 loot boxes.

    • @Cheizean
      @Cheizean 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ducktle OMG true

  • @brokeninkwell3818
    @brokeninkwell3818 6 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    For those who don't know, the term 'whale' used at 6:25 is a term describing players who spend large amounts of money on in game content, usually making them extremely powerful.
    Just like how beer manufacturers target alcoholics because they provide most of their sales, games with free to play models target whales because they spend the most money.

    • @twilightvulpine
      @twilightvulpine 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's worth reminding everyone that the term "whale" started in the gambling industry too.

    • @supergeno128ds
      @supergeno128ds 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard that term a lot back when I used to play SD Gundam Capsule Fighter (SDGO.) There were always a handful of players that dumped ridiculous amounts of money into the game with every update. I can only imagine what those people felt when the servers shut down.
      Its one of the biggest reasons why I'm hesitant to put money into online games. At least I still physically own my old Pokemon cards!

    • @TelikiMouse
      @TelikiMouse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Broken Inkwell I did it in pvz2 now I have a level 6 missile toe out of 10 it paid off

    • @sophiejones7727
      @sophiejones7727 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      uhh... your comparison is not very good. Alcoholism is not about how much you drink, it's about the *emotional* compulsion to drink. An alcoholic does not necessarily drink more than a non-alcoholic. What they do is they use the alcohol for emotional regulation. If available however, an alcoholic typically uses hard liquor since it gives more bang for the buck. Usually, beer manufacturers don't target alcoholics: they target party planners. Why? because these people are going to buy large quantities of alcohol to distribute to their friends. In particular, they are targeting people who plan parties frequently: once a month, or even every weekend. If you are the person who does that, then you are going to buy vastly more alcohol than any single individual could ever consume. If anything this practice is even more damaging than taking advantage of an individual's addiction would be, because what this does is equate alcohol with fun in the minds of young children. This is one of the reasons why there has been a huge uptick in underage drinking, in some places. Kids grow up thinking that the way that adults have fun is by drinking, and so when they are 15 or 16 and want to be "grown-up" they feel like they need to drink. It is primarily advertisers who have given them the false impression that what adults enjoy about parties is drinking, although Hollywood certainly hasn't helped matters.

    • @brokeninkwell3818
      @brokeninkwell3818 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sophie Jones well, it's just a simple metaphor. I think most understood the premise. That companies care more about the few people who buy a lot and buy often, instead of the countless people who spend very little.

  • @microbialdoormat
    @microbialdoormat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    All of this would work on me........ IF I didn't have the strongest "no don't do this it's bad" will that anyone has ever seen. I see a thing in a game where it says that you get more money than you put in every single time 100% guaranteed, I tried it once, it worked, yet I just shrugged it off and all memory of it was gone. Same with loot crates. Also, I just feel that buying stuff in games is like cheating, so that thought combined with my insane "NO" willpower makes it almost impossible for any of this to work on me. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @ambermargheim5726
      @ambermargheim5726 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My dad bought one once, a real world version of the loot crate, we in all got three. That's it... but.... then thinkcrate came out. Abd we got alot of those for my bro and i. Yah so it's kinda a problem. But in general, I'm pretty good about not buying in app stuff... except for free minecraft stuff, no will whatsoever

  • @spartanfoxy37
    @spartanfoxy37 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it how I acually like learning this way and sometimes I share info with friends

  • @SpectralOpposites
    @SpectralOpposites 6 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    That perfect syncronized intro shows how dedicated of an actor matpat can be, wp

    • @munem939
      @munem939 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, he DID study acting after all

    • @charlesvillenueve2423
      @charlesvillenueve2423 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did do theatre in highschool

  • @Setoro24
    @Setoro24 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    0:19 OH MY GOODNESS THE ACTING!!!

    • @rednukke1389
      @rednukke1389 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Setoro523 mat pat used to act

    • @Setoro24
      @Setoro24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Red Nukke I know, and it's AWESOME

    • @Setoro24
      @Setoro24 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheLeakyPen I know, it doesn't make it worse acting though, it's still good acting.

  • @lilrady6941
    @lilrady6941 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude that apology was so sarcastic that me and my family were on the floor laghing seriously that was godly good job and keep it up

  • @AVAL2775
    @AVAL2775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your Skittles argument is a slippery slope fallacy
    Also no cause cards(magic/Yu-Gi-Oh/Pokemon) do have external value even if that card isn't something your using, you can set it up to trade, or to sell
    Loot boxes and casinos do not do this

    • @inorite4553
      @inorite4553 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. Skittles do not create, foster, market, maintain and adjust the mechanics of the entire ecosystem to encourage people to buy more bags of Skittles after you've already bought your bag of skittles and they do not change the mechanics of the candy manufacturing/sale/consumption to almost strong arm you into buying more bags of skittles.
      That is, unless they're adding crack to their formula to physiologically get their customers hooked. Then matpat would have a point.

    • @AVAL2775
      @AVAL2775 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inorite4553 yeah lol

    • @AVAL2775
      @AVAL2775 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@call4523 except they dont

  • @samirrahc3847
    @samirrahc3847 6 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    That Logan Paul shade though LMAOO

    • @JULIETASZR
      @JULIETASZR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samirrah Youdontneedtoknowmylastname l

    • @kawaiipanda6850
      @kawaiipanda6850 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Samirrah Youdontneedtoknowmylastname idc about that what ur last-name tho

    • @GhostHunterDipperPines
      @GhostHunterDipperPines 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr

  • @shift9541
    @shift9541 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    as someone who worked at a casino on the slot floor, well done matt

    • @TheKarmicCrib
      @TheKarmicCrib 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shift working on a casino floor seems like hard work

    • @shift9541
      @shift9541 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheKarmicCrib i was just the guy who fixes the machines/checks the software and pays them out when they win. but another thing is when you befriend someone, they become a regular ;) we had a lot of training on how to get people to keep coming back.

  • @Lobstro
    @Lobstro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Matpat! I came here from the link in your newest video about Gamestop stonks!
    I would argue that there is one vital difference between lootboxes and any kind of randomized, physical product like baseball cards or skittles. If you get an unwanted or duplicate baseball card, you can trade with someone who doesn't have it. Prizes from a lootbox (as far as I can tell, but I don't play many games that serve lootboxes) are locked to your account and there is no way to trade. This means that unwanted prizes are valueless; the same as getting nothing at all, just like with gambling. At least with trading you can get something good in return, or at the very least you can get a good feeling from giving something valuable to someone else.

  • @seththerookboi
    @seththerookboi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    matpat:limited time stuff scamm us
    also matpat: get the limited time game theory merch

  • @piplup10203854
    @piplup10203854 6 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    These intros are just getting better and better. I always like before the video starts but I need to like it more lol

  • @JedediahCyrus
    @JedediahCyrus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    A feel that one item that you forgot to mention or failed to mention is the fact that when you purchase pokemon cards, baseball cards and the like, you aren't having to purchase a larger overall system first. When we are purchasing loot boxes from a game that we should already have 100% access to, loot boxes are just a way of manipulating chances for the consumer to then finally complete that 100%. That is the largest controversial factor with this method. At least in my opinion .

    • @Swagmaster65
      @Swagmaster65 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yes, they shouldn't be in a full price game.

    • @thechannelthatplantscrave5145
      @thechannelthatplantscrave5145 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed.

    • @defdefy
      @defdefy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I genuinely want matpat top respond to this because I also felt this was glazed over

    • @ryuhouchiha
      @ryuhouchiha 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      vert true. i am playing a tomb raider game right now and the only way to be 100% completionist is if you by loot crates. because they actually have that as trophy rewards if you buy a certain amount

    • @BigT.Larrity
      @BigT.Larrity 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ryuhouchiha Wow, really? An achievement you can only get by not actually playing the game.

  • @jojocircus9818
    @jojocircus9818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love this apology. it was incredibly genuine

  • @beatertlwonline9642
    @beatertlwonline9642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love Game Theory's description of Feh and their gacha luck while I almost always get a 5 star when i first open the banner and never touch the banner and am a complete f2p

  • @TOCCL
    @TOCCL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +701

    THAT INTRO PLUG ...
    WAS ON FIRE!!!!!!

    • @nolesfan2769
      @nolesfan2769 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TOCCL I thought he was cereal for

    • @Dyl-cb5vx
      @Dyl-cb5vx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TOCCL logan 2nd chance

    • @mills9366
      @mills9366 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did the absolute right thing

  • @projects7802
    @projects7802 6 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    You know it is serious when MatPat does one of those intros that takes shots at Logan Paul
    It's how you know this controversy is wide-spread and sad

  • @Jay-629
    @Jay-629 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty sure the only money I’ve spent on games (beyond the game’s price) has been ranks on Minecraft servers. I used to play MC a lot, and I figured may as well have an advantage in the game.

  • @beelitz_
    @beelitz_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    “My loot bag of skittles had crap flavours” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @vomvom2852
    @vomvom2852 6 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Would it be ironic if this was sponsored by loot crate

  • @Dillon0129
    @Dillon0129 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    11:23
    "Those who don't ready history are doomed to repeat it"

    • @aginjai
      @aginjai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I noticed that too. Typo? or clever play on words? hmm

    • @cabdiamaal3804
      @cabdiamaal3804 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dillon Linville beuujjbb iiuyr2q566u

  • @ThEaWeSoMeNeSs11111
    @ThEaWeSoMeNeSs11111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still theorizing off just the first theory crate today the theory keeps getting deeper

  • @drmattconrad77
    @drmattconrad77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You brought up the exact example I was thinking of when this controversy hit. I used to collect baseball and hockey cards. I stopped in the late 80's and early 90's because of this. Other examples of this system are your grocery store card which allows them to design the store layout and also to change price points to maximize profits, ITunes Store where songs become album only and movies get pulled from being rented, and the airlines. Basically any place that can collect data is doing it to find the perfect price point.

  • @olivialovessnow880
    @olivialovessnow880 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You and Jacksfilms throwing that Logan shame. I love it

    • @aquaduud
      @aquaduud 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We know de wae

  • @cheyennepepperr
    @cheyennepepperr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    In the beginning when it was an apology I was like “PEOPLE GOT MAD AT THIS TOO?! HOW?! FIRST UNDERTALE NOW THIS?! GEEZ PEOPLE!”

    • @pineapple_unicorn3777
      @pineapple_unicorn3777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amy Wigions I thought that too until I heard him talking about the loot boxes 😂

    • @collectorsforecast1132
      @collectorsforecast1132 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, I was confused at first

    • @user-pb6br9vc5g
      @user-pb6br9vc5g 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was like that too until I noticed Logan Paul! :P

  • @jeim376
    @jeim376 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could only pay perfect attention after you said “skittles”

  • @remiliusmusic
    @remiliusmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:49 When cooperations get away with loot boxes

  • @raccooncafe5689
    @raccooncafe5689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    The apology freaking murdered me.

    • @GreyKellRBLXokay
      @GreyKellRBLXokay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      FilterHat I'm pretty sure that it was suicide.

    • @caligulasaquarium5032
      @caligulasaquarium5032 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      raptorsexuwl nO

    • @liamofneesons6672
      @liamofneesons6672 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      shots fired from matpat, i died during the apology

    • @tomtinker8220
      @tomtinker8220 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      come on guys, don't leave FilterHat just hanging there.
      too far? too far? ok, i'm sorry.

  • @torexinc.8762
    @torexinc.8762 6 ปีที่แล้ว +309

    Day 1: I've decided to never spend a dime on any lootbox ever.
    Day 50: The tatalizing rewards are making it increasingly more difficult, but I will not succum to the bait.
    Day 287: I don't know how much longer I can last, I want that skin so badly...
    Day: 288: I almost broke, but recent episodes from game theory have opened my eyes and reminded me why I have chosen this path.
    Day 300: Lootboxes are not De Way

    • @iphonenetsyt4806
      @iphonenetsyt4806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Birty Torex "are not de wei"

    • @armon9555
      @armon9555 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Birty Torex lol spicy meme

    • @iankirby4160
      @iankirby4160 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Finally, a consumer with self discipline.

    • @Roperfield
      @Roperfield 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats a dead meme

    • @MrGermandeutsch
      @MrGermandeutsch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      REALLY?

  • @LavenderSamm
    @LavenderSamm 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The shade is unbelievable. Its not even shade. Its not even shade at that point, its pure darkness

  • @enlightningairieon7294
    @enlightningairieon7294 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 11:20 Mat says "Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it" the the text says "Those who do not *READY* history are doomed to repeat it"

  • @kromozome4181
    @kromozome4181 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You Forgot the fact that lootboxes reward are linked to your account in a game Own by a company. The game is actually running on a server who CAN be shut down at any time. Technicaly you did not own anything whereas my random skittles are all mine. Thanks for the vidéo mat I really love your work :)

    • @ACE112ACE112
      @ACE112ACE112 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kromozome servers aren't people.

  • @yaumelepire6310
    @yaumelepire6310 6 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    6:28 In the Gaming Industry, a whale is a player who consistently spends a lot of money on microtransactions or premium memberships.

    • @skyreacherdude2887
      @skyreacherdude2887 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yaume Lepire I thought it meant players are fighting bosses in-game
      "Just whaling on the boss until he dies"

    • @yaumelepire6310
      @yaumelepire6310 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Skyreacher Dude
      [...]
      That's pretty good.

    • @willandguns
      @willandguns 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao yes I play dokkan

    • @terikotsu
      @terikotsu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn that dokkan battle and those whalers.

    • @DZark23
      @DZark23 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will B oh hey so do I

  • @lauraericks9520
    @lauraericks9520 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    about that "pin you with people you have good stuff". Yeah, some games even take it one step further and show you the item they were using when they killed you.

  • @g3mstic
    @g3mstic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro how in the world did he keep a straight face at that one? I'd be wheezing all day long if I were him XDD

  • @kamilk.1816
    @kamilk.1816 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Damn that intro.... goosebumps

  • @Bk-qx5ti
    @Bk-qx5ti 6 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    *casinos hate him! See how a man named Matthew Patrick saves others money by unlocking the truth about reward cards and more!*

    • @galaxynight2136
      @galaxynight2136 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Brooklyn Henderson hate those bastard things that appear on my Facebook all the time!!

    • @aaaaaaaa6685
      @aaaaaaaa6685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @zachriggs5297
    @zachriggs5297 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    the skittle example is amazing

  • @amirsani2230
    @amirsani2230 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:20 ...wait WHAT!? Yellow skittles are obviously the best! What kind of awesome skittles bags are you getting with 70% yellow and orange? That's amazing!

  • @wadeslovick2815
    @wadeslovick2815 6 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Lel that apology tho.

  • @drakan4769
    @drakan4769 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    ok, I've hated the slippery slope argument for a while, you know why? it works both ways, what it says is that "as long as you aren't getting nothing then it's not gambling, so it shouldn't be regulated", so what, does that mean I can set up a poker table for children and as long as I'm giving the loser a piece of candy then I'm not running a gambling scheme?

    • @yshbfs
      @yshbfs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      daaaang

    • @fuwafuwapanda777
      @fuwafuwapanda777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drakan R I think that's correct.

    • @Isaac_Taken
      @Isaac_Taken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @Isaac_Taken
      @Isaac_Taken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But I doubt you would earn any profit

    • @Isaac_Taken
      @Isaac_Taken 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      :v

  • @silversonic1
    @silversonic1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those who don't READY history are doomed to repeat it.
    Such a subtle joke. Nice job, Team Theorist!

  • @dallinwalker2203
    @dallinwalker2203 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE APOLOGY WAS SO HEARTFELT AAAH

  • @ChoppedCarrots1
    @ChoppedCarrots1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I once got a pack of skittles with NO red skittles in it.

    • @JFairy189
      @JFairy189 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Catriona Murphy Outrageous!

    • @gomesgreen
      @gomesgreen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You poor soul

    • @septic4868
      @septic4868 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sue

    • @AntoineRed
      @AntoineRed 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, the horror... The horror... The horror...

    • @CazadorSlayer
      @CazadorSlayer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm...I'm so sorry for your loss...I...I'm sorry, I'm really emotional right now...Oh god...

  • @Krillol
    @Krillol 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I am curious if the "You can trade the items with other people giving them an value that is market based - therefor you always get something someone else might want." argument was the thing that toppled card-packs over to not be considered gambling. With virtual lootboxes locked inside your profile with you having no way of trading or such you can actually argue that you do not get any items at all - since they might hold no value at all to you.
    That is the argument I can find that would make lootboxes able to become regulated without stopping cardpacks etc, or your skittle packs.

    • @kenmorashade7943
      @kenmorashade7943 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      but some games DO let you trade the items. look at cisgo.

    • @bernardocalado3998
      @bernardocalado3998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can always sell your game account. Plus it doesn't matter if you value what you got. You got something and that's all that matters. If you don't like spending money and not getting what you wanted then stop spending money. The companies are not forcing you to do it, you do it out of greed, so why should the companies pay for your sins?

    • @randimullin9877
      @randimullin9877 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Krillol Imagine if the game itself as the person you’re trading with. The game almost always allows you to get some sort of currency for something you actually care about. If you have a bunch of trash cards in Hearthstone, you “trade” them to the system and the system always has that card you would rather have. It’s basically a balance for people that don’t have friends that play the game and don’t really feel like friending strangers.

    • @shlumper7336
      @shlumper7336 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Krillol to the intro thats csgo

    • @lildmckay
      @lildmckay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bernardo Calado I don't think that's a valid argument. I'm don't think that anyone would be willing to buy or sell an Xbox or PlayStation account for skins.

  • @celesefernal2490
    @celesefernal2490 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear there's casino and looktbox-company bodyguards out there just waiting to drag matpat out the back for a beating.

  • @squirrel7269
    @squirrel7269 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That beginning had me genuinely confused for a second!

  • @MeHasCookie
    @MeHasCookie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    oh god that logan paul shade killed me

  • @giphitt3427
    @giphitt3427 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That intro.

  • @Gottaculat
    @Gottaculat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best way to get rid of loot boxes (or micro transactions in general) is to stop buying them. It's why casinos don't open in towns that are morally opposed to them, because not enough people will show up on a regular basis to make it a profitable venture. Trying to regulate something out of existence only creates a black market for the product/service, as we've seen with the "war on drugs." When you make something taboo, it is generally human nature to want to obtain/experience it.

  • @vqanderson_anderson
    @vqanderson_anderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Let 2018 Begin"
    Logan Paul: Yeah, Let it Begin man on a Tree. WHERES THE GOPRO?

  • @pigeonking5552
    @pigeonking5552 6 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    No joke, this happened to me in Rocket League:
    I recieved a velocity crate. 2 days later I recieve another velocity crate. I decide to buy 2 keys for each velocity crate and open them. 1 day later I recieve a velocity crate and I instantly buy a key for it. The next day I get 3 velocity crates in 1 day.

    • @twilightvulpine
      @twilightvulpine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This is another trick they use. You feel like you are wasting your opportunity to get something if you unlock the boxes you already have, again that Sunk Cost.
      The thing is, until you unlock the box, you don't actually have anything. This is not a physical box sitting on your house that you could smash with a hammer if you wanted. It's just a number they show you to tempt you into paying.

    • @lucaswhite8358
      @lucaswhite8358 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      who buys 2 separate keys. you gotta buy 5 or 10 in bulk

    • @BudgiePanic
      @BudgiePanic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Turning players into payers"

    • @EmmyVR
      @EmmyVR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The same happened to me. But I sold my earnings from them for other stuff I wanted. Velocities crates were new at the time and all the stuff was on high demand, meaning I could sell the stuff I got for crazy prices. Imperator for 5K. For example.

    • @samblackhardt8689
      @samblackhardt8689 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pigeon King I call bullshit YOU'RE HACKING!

  • @quillynorlya6743
    @quillynorlya6743 6 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    *THE SHADE*

    • @squishysaid7927
      @squishysaid7927 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I know, I'm so proud

    • @superhippo7564
      @superhippo7564 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Our boy Matt is moving up in the world

    • @studtistics2448
      @studtistics2448 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucas Matos our*

    • @trevorsmith6869
      @trevorsmith6869 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This isn't just shade...
      It's a Solar Eclipse

  • @onemanjack6912
    @onemanjack6912 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone is interested, Extra Credits has recently done a set of videos on this same phenomenon, from a development perspective. I'm not saying I support the practice, but they have some compelling arguments for why loot boxes were introduced, and more importantly, why they're not likely to vanish any time soon.

  • @KyuuB
    @KyuuB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was actually doing a research paper on loot boxes and the argument on it as gambling. Thanks for the information Mat, definitely gonna incorporate some of the psychological effects of loot boxes and gambling.

  • @lexrogan2207
    @lexrogan2207 6 ปีที่แล้ว +525

    So many shots fired, love it!!!

    • @Neppedupplayer
      @Neppedupplayer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shots have been fiyerd?

    • @-dennis3755
      @-dennis3755 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      um, I'm pretty sure the whole "Scientific Argument" thing, was to Avoid shots fired. more or less just to provide the ammunition.

    • @jordansjordan1000
      @jordansjordan1000 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not going to pay agin I'm just gone wait

    • @jordansjordan1000
      @jordansjordan1000 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      not the skittles

    • @HTram
      @HTram 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fired shots at both Logan and EA in the same thought process, love it too!

  • @thegreatmajora5089
    @thegreatmajora5089 6 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Oh the passive aggressive intro

  • @bdog8858
    @bdog8858 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol that loot crate with the annoying orange laugh tho

  • @elementall3623
    @elementall3623 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the sense that loot boxes are designed to addict you to buy more, then TH-cam is my most effective loot crate...