@@TheWayICit He used Quinclorac. It does knock it back but you will need follow up apps. The absolute St Augustine/Centipede murder is MSMA 💪🏼. However MSMA is usually only allowed on golf courses not for residential use
UGGGHHH!! As another Florida man here with Palmetto under oak trees in the backyard, I feel your pain deep in my soul. You broke the 1/3rd rule and the lawn just wasn't having any of that nonsense. I was squirming the whole time saying, "JUST BAG IT MAN!!" 🌴🌦
@ArtieMcYardie literally do for many months out of the year. To pick up sycamore and maple leafs. It won't even rip out old dead stolons. You must have some weak ass grub laden roots lmao 🤣
Also... Not the most fun for you, but seeing a pro mess up too is a great reset for us DIYers... Thanks for showing the bad along with the good... And how you worked to fix it.
What I do when I encounter an overgrown customer's lawn is cut it down to length, and then raise the deck an inch and go over it 2-3 more times. Doing that will give the deck more "breathing room" to mulch it up, and it will distribute those smaller clippings deeper into the lawn canopy. It sounds nuts, but it actually works. I've had centipede and zoysia lawns with 10-11" of cut, and got their clippings to virtually disappear. of course, mulching blades work best for that, etc.
I did the same thing a few weeks ago. With a crazy work schedule and coaching baseball, the lawn got out of control. Plus it rains a lot in the PNW, so mowing a lawn that was wet AND overgrown wasn’t going to work. Then after chopping down weeks of spring growth, like an idiot, I decided a couple days later to drop the deck low and try and cut pretty low to get rid of the stalks from the seed heads. It took a few weeks of babying for the lawn to recover.
I'm in Mn and had to do this 2 weeks ago. Grass was so long from non-stop rain. I filled 10 of the paper yard bags on 1000 sq/ft of front yard. Same thing, very yellowed and brown underneath. Hit it with some fungus control and it bounced back nicely.
I appreciate the reality of the situation that most of us at sometime have had to endure when we had other things in life going on and the lawn got away from us. Way to stick with it and sharing the reality you experienced!
19:02 Is the electric thatch rake an option to bring it all up? The best thing to do with such an overgrown lawn was to blow the first cuttings into small piles and start packing the brown leaf/lawn compost bags. The mulch blade is just making everything smaller and it will suffocate your root system.
Love the Floratam and crazy example of how great it is if you left it to over grow. We had this happen a few times because rain would not let up and work schedule got in the way for cuts. Love my Honda HRX 217 for bagging in these situations.
Had to do this before as well. I mowed it in the morning and let it dry out and mowed again in the early evening after it dried out all day. Of course I didn't get any rain that day, good luck! May need to look into getting an Accelerator aluminum bagger and some G6 Gator blades just in case.
most mowers max out at 4-5 inch deck height. some go up to 6 inch. making it impossible to cut any higher. when it gets this bad you just gotta cut it and remove the clippings from the lawn. not sure what Allen was thinking here
@@poisonousnut Yes i agree but the point was that i think he was trying to mow it down to his normal height and thats why he scalped some areas. I doubt he had it set at the highest setting. He had a hayfield and for all the cutting he did he needed to spend the time to do some raking. he should have just cut a center swath with a few passes then throw all the clipping towards the center working his way out. Then rake the center swath and repeat the cut to mulch whatever was cut or drop the deck a smidge and do the above. Probably just too busy to take the time to cut over several days.
@@pdureska7814 he did actually have the highest setting, he mentioned it at the beginning.....1/3 can't really be followed once grass gets this high.... he probably should have cut his loss short early and grab a rake or a lawn sweeper of some sort.... mowing away 5inches worth of grass clippings was never going to be the answer, not sure what his strategy here was but for once, he's made himself look more like a youtuber than a lawn care professional....
As I watch, I think of all the amazing fertilizer you can make with these clippings. Fill up a bunch of totes with the clippings, add some Bokashi and water then let it decompose.
When life gives you grass clippings make compost out of them. Buy some hay/wheat straw and a few bags of Black Kow Compost alternate layers and water heavily between layers.
I live in the southern part of the state and my husband cuts our yard twice a week right now to avoid this problem. It’s a standing joke in our neighborhood that my husband cuts the yard every day😂. We are having a really bad fungus problem & I think we waited too long to treat our St. Augustine with your fungus recipe. Your yard looks pretty amazing compared to ours. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🙏
EGO electric mowers already have a grass catching bag. If it is damaged, you can even buy a 3rd party replacement grass catching bag for an Ego mower for as little as $35 USD online. . . And that makes it so confusing. WHY didn't the Lawn Care Nut simply cut and bag at least some of the grass during multiple mowings in this video?
So on the big mowers they typically mow a half inch sometimes a more lower then the setting due to the weight of the mower compressing the grass unlike a push mower that can ride atop the grass. You would have been better off with a mulching deck. My 48” ex mark can cut at 6” and it doesn’t clog up. The 48”toro I had with a bigger motor would clog up. Ex marks deck is designed very well.
Well, I felt better seeing this video. My lawn is jacked up and so I’m going to try and get it looking better. A lot of work! I guess that happens when you aren’t home to watch it like I wasn’t You are still the best!!!
Good grief. I'm not sure how one "accidently" throws equipment away - but if you don't have the equipment to bag, the first thing to do would be to beg, borrow, or rent something that could. Gray leaf spot? Would this be a good time to point out that the first rule of fungal infections is to bag, don't mulch, to avoid spreading the spores and infection? Then you mow (and bag) at the highest setting to start with, drop it a notch and mow it again the next day, repeating the process until it is at your normal preferred mowing height. Also, continue to bag, not mulch, until the fungus is under control. Glad I could help. And while I'll probably continue to use the N-Ext line, I think I'll look elsewhere if I need lawn advice. Signed, a happy owner (and as-needed user) of a bagging mower and multiple rakes, including the Maintainer.
I would highly recommend getting a Honda mini tiller with the thatcher attachment. It does an excellent job of bringing dead material out of the grass and would also break up the clumps. I’ve had mine since 2023 and it gets used frequently. It is a workhorse and it pays me every time I use it!!
During the summer, especially during the rain season you have to stay on the lawn almost twice a week for it to remain manageable with a push mower in Florida...🌞🍊🌧️
So true, which is why I try to mow my own. Lawn care companies typically try to keep to their weekly schedule, so will tend to cut it shorter to avoid overgrown lawns in a week. Paying them to mow twice a week would be exorbitant. I also have the same Ego self propelled mower on a quarter acre lot, and I can barely cut the lawn once on a 10 amp-hour battery.
I think part of why it’s clumping so bad is since your lawn is used to that small walk behind mower, the weight of the kubota weighs down and it cuts lower even with the deck at 5 inches, I see the same on my front yard when I use my riding mower every once a while on it. The toro recycler isn’t as heavy so it doesn’t sit in the grass
Great video, next time this happens, used the zero turn again, but this time cut it at 5 then on the 2nd cut drop it 4.75, the the 3rd cut drop it 4.5 . Now on your 4 th cut raise it to 4.75, on the 5th cut 4.75 different direction, then on the 6th cut raise it to 5. Now in between the cuts wait to 30-an hour that will give time to dry, plus you can blow it the back pack blower. I hope this helps . Thanks
This is one of the most painful videos Ive watched that you’ve posted. Ouch! My condolences. With all of this Florida rain, whats worse….wait and cut when overgrown, or cut when damp/wet?
Hello, i need advice with my lawn. I have bermuda lawn and my neighbors lawn is St Augustine and it invaded my lawn . Is there any to kill St August and not harm mine? Also how can i avoid St Augustine from crossing over. Thank you for you time!
Thank you for showing this and normalizing screw-ups. I can't count how many times I've credited you when I get lawn compliments. I have a huge party this weekend, but I missed my last tenacity window and now I have weed overgrowth - every single second in the yard I shake my head and say Allyn would be so disappointed in you 😅. thank you so much - I appreciate you!!
I wish my empire zoysia could get overgrown. It struggled this year but its getting there now. Man all that grass, I probably would have composted some, and put some down as mulch in my garden beds and put straw over it.
I have citrazoy in south Florida (ft Lauderdale area) that I planted in Feb. I can’t figure out why it is struggling so much in the freedom factory. This stuff is bullet proof here. I’ve tried empire and zorro, and it gets killed by fungus every year. The citrazoy is really easy to grow. Just like st Augustine, but cut it shorter (1 3/4 inches at my house). It’s Amazing! Also, been I. The position you’ve been with overgrown st Augustine. In the future, maybe try to side discharge away from the area you’re cutting and just leave it till the next cut. That way it’s a thinner layer that can dry out on top of the grass. it will be just one layer. Then it won’t be so heavy smashing down your grass. I’m no expert, but that’s the way I’ve done it in the past to avoid it clumping up on you.
Why the yellowing? And how do you fix it? I go through this every year with my St. Aug and still haven’t figured out what to do to get rid of the yellow.
What I do, is I mulch, and work my way down each level. That getting me better results. Bagging is best for the first cut. But I can see how this would be a lot, I only cut around 3k sq feet and I end up around 10, 42 gallons bag. If I recall he has over 10k sq feet, so that is a lot of bags.
Take those clippings and throw it in a compost bin. Take your greens, brown leaves or ripped cardboard and mix in a little soil and keep it moist, within 3 months you'll have some excellent soil. I built two compost bins (it's like a 35x35x35 areated bin made from old scrap 2x6s) I alternate between the two bins, turning it maybe once every two weeks.
19:57 what I used to do with no blower was wide discharge and cut forward back cut then make all my lines the same direction so all the clumps are in one big pile so I can rake it in a bag. But yea LCN. Keep those baggers. LOL
Not here to beat a dead horse about raking. It’s a learning experience either way and that’s sometimes what it’s about. Thanks for the longer video and all the content! Stay safe out there!
A lot can be said for a bagging attachment once in a rare while when the grass gets so overgrown. The lost nitrogen from bagged clippings is negligible if you're using ferts anyway.
Did I understand you to say that you have Zoysia, St. Augustin and Bermuda in your lawn ? I'm curious because I think I have Zoysia with some Bermuda mix over the years. I need to get some grass seeds for some bare spots. What to you recommend? I'm new to this. Thank you.
Last week I saw some mowers pull up to my neighbors house with one of those giant ride on mowers… mind you their yard is small, only 1-2 passes on one of those and it’s done. They spent more time maneuvering the thing around than they would just pulling their push mower off
I have that same Kubota zero turn at work, that thing is so friggin loud especially when you start it. The choke is full throttle pushed all the way forward, so when you start it you have to back down from full throttle and that sucker in an enclosed shop area, boy you know when someone fires it up 😂
I'm in Central Florida and last week we got rain almost every day later in the day. I missed my mow day of Thursday and cut Saturday and I also had a ton of growth, so much my lawn is yellow now. I did bag though as soon as I saw how much got cut. IDK why you didn't just rake it up and toss them in those trash bins!
Most of us fans in SE Texas wish we had that "problem". The heat pump is already in full effect and the St. Augustine is having trouble with staying hydrated and growing so lush. Another month of high water bill.
Rake, yard Vac, bag it and bring it to the dump. I've been watching your videos for the last two years in an effort to be better at making my yard look great. So far the efforts are going great, I've gone from a pretty barren weedy wasteland, that was only mowed as maintenance, to greenery all around now. I get told my yard looks better now than it when it was previously professionally landscaped. I've gotten the itch and want that spray cart set up and to start trying all these great products you advertise. As much as I love scotts, I dont want to be just a step product line guy anymore. For those who watch and don't play golf, pick it up. You get to spend 3 to 5 hours on 130+ acres of maintained and landscaped property and all kinds of great ideas as to what to do to your own property.
When You have to break the 1/3 rule that much…mow a little part of the lawn at the time bagging it, then as You go You put it in thick large black plastic bags and later on you will think what to do with those clipping…why would You even think about mulching or side discharging?! I don’t get it, we watch Your TH-cam channel because You are very knowledgeable about lawn, You know these stuff better than us?! I guess You jumped into this project just a bit too quickly without giving it a proper thought first…but I guess it is good for TH-cam content (and future content on how to recover it from here) 😉
My bahia absolutely took off with all the rain in the last week, highest i could cut it was 5 inchs, had to send the hubby out with the thatch rake and fill the lawn bins.
Hey AL. Greetings from Northwest Indiana. My lawn has been looking great thanks to all your knowledge. Last week I applied some green pop, at correct rate, with a half rate of propiconizole. Every is yellowing!! I've been watering heavily to try and "rinse" it out. But it's not working. Do you think an app of chelated iron would help the yellowing, or is that just too much going on??
I know you've said before that you don't want to get into PGR (plant growth regulators), but it might be worth it to look into. It's a game changer (at least on my Bermuda)!
Yes he has to keep doing stupid shit like this to keep making content. It would be boring if he wasn't constantly chasing his tail. Easily could have put fungicide and insecticide down after properly bagging this grass. Also put PGR and iron. I live 15 miles away (he says he is in Bradenton but I found his place in Parrish) and mow once every 3 weeks. I have floratam, disease free. I use PGR of course
Should have bag mowed it with the ego cutting 1/3 off, maybe a little more, right b4 trash day, fill your and as many neighbors trash cans. Then they pick it up. Then 2 days later you can bag mow again 1/3 off again and fill your trash can. They pick that up and you bag mow again 1/3 off. Takes like 10 days and you fill your bins 3 times but it's takes just as much work to keep it short lol so I don't let mine over grow.
He said though that he accidentelly threw away the bag for the Ego, so he had no bad, that's why he was saying he had no choice and had to do what he did.
He said though that he accidentelly threw away the bag for the Ego, so he had no bag, that's why he was saying he had no choice and had to do what he did.
@@natewalls4850 missed that. I'd borrow a bag mower from neighbor. Trying to mulch that much is more work than just bagging it plus none is spread on the mulch beds etc.
I know you say the St Augustine is best when it's cut long, but I cut my a little shorter because of all the moisture that gets trapped within. I don't cut to low, but deff. not really tall.
It would have been awesome if one of your buddies did a lawn recue video onyou. Kinda reminds me of auto shop owners that drive around in beaters because they're too busy or tired to work on their own stuff. You should have bagged it and included some in each merch order like Cleetus does with his broken race car parts. Or turned it into some limited run "super fert" and sold it.
Question, do you not like St Augustine grass or just want two Zones? I have St Augustine grass/Buffalo lawn here in Cali and curious if I should change it.
Do you have any recommendation for chinch bugs? I have put down well beyond the yearly recommended rate of bifenthrin and they are still devastating my ProVista St Aug. Is there another chemical I should be applying, or does bifenthrin really take weeks to kill chinch bugs?
Wow, this is something alright! All that extra debris makes me cringe! I prefer solid mulching blades and slightly heavier overlapping when I cut. Bagging just isn’t an option for me.
You knew exactly what you were doing when you let this grow that long big chop for better content to teach us your students how to manage overgrow thank you Lawn Nut
why didn't you just rake up the clippings and leave it for yard waste pickup? Also, tip for sod planting. Use wood golf tees to keep your seams together. Once the roots start taking, the wood tees will start pushing out and they won't damage your blades like garden stakes/staples will
I really have no idea why you did not rake it all up when you did the first cut, I bag every 6 or so mows and take it all to the local dump. Otherwise when I de-Thach in the fall I will have a bigger job on my hands. Looks like you really F up on a number of levels. Glad to see that us mere mortals aren't the only ones with lawn care problems.
Lesson for today is always have a mower with a bagger. Ware is your recycler, super recycler and timemaster. The timemaster would have cleaned it up nice with how big the bag is
I made the same mistake while waiting for my ride on mower. My St grow like 14" and my lawn suffered a lot and I did rake and bag everything up lol. I thought those yellow and brown spot in ST Augustine is fungus mine are brown with gray and do you have something for that wild Bermuda I have a couple spots to fix :(
Do you not have compost service from your waste manabement service down in Florida? I'd say rake that stuff up and mulch all your trees and bushes, and take the rest to a commercial compost.
Couple of options: Rake and create a Compost pile OR rake it in the grass every time the sun comes out. Most imp next time don't let the grass grow so tall. Don't sweat, all will be fine.
Not sure how to take all your other advice seriously when you don't know to grab a rake and clean that mess up
Sometimes I like to have fun. It's healthy. Take a look at the name of the channel to understand the deeper truths. Also, your doggo is cute!
@@TheLawnCareNut you are awesome, jp. Keep it up
NOT Dominating. 😊
What did you spray to kill St. Augustine and not zoysia?
@@TheWayICit He used Quinclorac. It does knock it back but you will need follow up apps. The absolute St Augustine/Centipede murder is MSMA 💪🏼. However MSMA is usually only allowed on golf courses not for residential use
It feels like the theme of this video is "How many times can I get people to scream RAKE at their screen?"
or BAG!
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yup, because I live in Florida and they pick up yard debris weekly with our trash. Just has to be bagged for clippings and 3'-4' for branches.
Yeah. Once you get that much clippings if you don't rake the grass under will turn brown.
@@hammer3921 No doubt...all those named mowers and not a single one of them has a bagger on it? No longer a sponsor, no longer going to use them...
Don’t understand why you didn’t bag a little bit at a time
Cause he said he accidentally threw his bagger away
dude, pay one of the neighborhood kids to rake up all those clippings. this was just confusing and painful to watch.
If only someone had invented a bagging system for lawn mowers of even a rake and a bag/trash can. It could have solved so many problems.
New video title: How far I'll go to avoid raking
And when you add up all the work he ended up doing to fix that mess, raking would have actually been far LESS work.
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Get to raking!
This is the way.
UGGGHHH!! As another Florida man here with Palmetto under oak trees in the backyard, I feel your pain deep in my soul. You broke the 1/3rd rule and the lawn just wasn't having any of that nonsense. I was squirming the whole time saying, "JUST BAG IT MAN!!" 🌴🌦
Sir, as my father would say when I was younger, GRAB YOUR RAKE!
Only thing is it’s Saint Augustine grass. You’ll pull up all the stolons with a rake. .
@ArtieMcYardie overstated. And even if you do.. what's worse 500 lbs of dead grass smothering everything or a few damaged stolons?
@@hoopinfloyd overstated?? Nah… you don’t rake st aug bro. 😎.
@ArtieMcYardie literally do for many months out of the year. To pick up sycamore and maple leafs. It won't even rip out old dead stolons. You must have some weak ass grub laden roots lmao 🤣
@@ArtieMcYardieof course you can rake it!..You precious dingbat
Thank you for sharing when things don't go right for you. We all learn from this content as it can happen to any of us. Keep us posted please!
The only thing I learned is he needs to buy a rake. He spent days trying to solve a problem that could have been solved with an hour of raking.
When mine got that bag, I ended up bagging it. Trying to mulch that much is impossible. Just gotta rake it up and bag most of it.
Also... Not the most fun for you, but seeing a pro mess up too is a great reset for us DIYers... Thanks for showing the bad along with the good... And how you worked to fix it.
What I do when I encounter an overgrown customer's lawn is cut it down to length, and then raise the deck an inch and go over it 2-3 more times. Doing that will give the deck more "breathing room" to mulch it up, and it will distribute those smaller clippings deeper into the lawn canopy. It sounds nuts, but it actually works. I've had centipede and zoysia lawns with 10-11" of cut, and got their clippings to virtually disappear. of course, mulching blades work best for that, etc.
I would have used a plastic rake and got busy
Why are you not bagging this and getting it off the lawn. You have bagger attachments. Get a few trash barrels. You made this worse.
Like doesn’t know this? He’s the lawncare nut for christs sake!
Showing some serious bad judgement on this one.
@@idigbebopagreed, this video was idiotic! So much so that im unsubscribing! What a moron this guy is
I did the same thing a few weeks ago. With a crazy work schedule and coaching baseball, the lawn got out of control. Plus it rains a lot in the PNW, so mowing a lawn that was wet AND overgrown wasn’t going to work. Then after chopping down weeks of spring growth, like an idiot, I decided a couple days later to drop the deck low and try and cut pretty low to get rid of the stalks from the seed heads. It took a few weeks of babying for the lawn to recover.
Great video and great recovery. It’s amazing how that Palmetto acts so different. Loved seeing the entire process.
I'm in Mn and had to do this 2 weeks ago. Grass was so long from non-stop rain. I filled 10 of the paper yard bags on 1000 sq/ft of front yard. Same thing, very yellowed and brown underneath. Hit it with some fungus control and it bounced back nicely.
Edit: Clumpy Balls…I’m dying Al!
That slow mo at 0:57 reminds me of a big bowl of green Spaghetti. I keep watching it for no reason. 😂
I appreciate the reality of the situation that most of us at sometime have had to endure when we had other things in life going on and the lawn got away from us. Way to stick with it and sharing the reality you experienced!
19:02 Is the electric thatch rake an option to bring it all up? The best thing to do with such an overgrown lawn was to blow the first cuttings into small piles and start packing the brown leaf/lawn compost bags. The mulch blade is just making everything smaller and it will suffocate your root system.
Love the Floratam and crazy example of how great it is if you left it to over grow. We had this happen a few times because rain would not let up and work schedule got in the way for cuts. Love my Honda HRX 217 for bagging in these situations.
just rake it up . Man, you put all this bull s*** on your lawn then complain that you can't keep up with the cutting . Gimme a break dawg.
This is a job where my father-in-law would pay some kid on summer break $20 and a rake.
Had to do this before as well. I mowed it in the morning and let it dry out and mowed again in the early evening after it dried out all day. Of course I didn't get any rain that day, good luck! May need to look into getting an Accelerator aluminum bagger and some G6 Gator blades just in case.
This is like a What not to do video. I think you're going to need a good old fashioned rake! Oh my!
What about cutting 1/3 several times over several days to get it back to where it needs to be?
most mowers max out at 4-5 inch deck height. some go up to 6 inch. making it impossible to cut any higher. when it gets this bad you just gotta cut it and remove the clippings from the lawn. not sure what Allen was thinking here
@@poisonousnut Yes i agree but the point was that i think he was trying to mow it down to his normal height and thats why he scalped some areas. I doubt he had it set at the highest setting. He had a hayfield and for all the cutting he did he needed to spend the time to do some raking. he should have just cut a center swath with a few passes then throw all the clipping towards the center working his way out. Then rake the center swath and repeat the cut to mulch whatever was cut or drop the deck a smidge and do the above. Probably just too busy to take the time to cut over several days.
@@pdureska7814 he did actually have the highest setting, he mentioned it at the beginning.....1/3 can't really be followed once grass gets this high.... he probably should have cut his loss short early and grab a rake or a lawn sweeper of some sort.... mowing away 5inches worth of grass clippings was never going to be the answer, not sure what his strategy here was but for once, he's made himself look more like a youtuber than a lawn care professional....
@@rogueonevo yeah i missed that. Dare we say rookie mistake haha
As I watch, I think of all the amazing fertilizer you can make with these clippings. Fill up a bunch of totes with the clippings, add some Bokashi and water then let it decompose.
When life gives you grass clippings make compost out of them. Buy some hay/wheat straw and a few bags of Black Kow Compost alternate layers and water heavily between layers.
I live in the southern part of the state and my husband cuts our yard twice a week right now to avoid this problem. It’s a standing joke in our neighborhood that my husband cuts the yard every day😂. We are having a really bad fungus problem & I think we waited too long to treat our St. Augustine with your fungus recipe. Your yard looks pretty amazing compared to ours. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🙏
happens to the best of us Allyn, but I probably would have gone out and bought the cheapest mower with a bagger and got rid of the clippings
EGO electric mowers already have a grass catching bag. If it is damaged, you can even buy a 3rd party replacement grass catching bag for an Ego mower for as little as $35 USD online. . . And that makes it so confusing. WHY didn't the Lawn Care Nut simply cut and bag at least some of the grass during multiple mowings in this video?
So on the big mowers they typically mow a half inch sometimes a more lower then the setting due to the weight of the mower compressing the grass unlike a push mower that can ride atop the grass. You would have been better off with a mulching deck. My 48” ex mark can cut at 6” and it doesn’t clog up. The 48”toro I had with a bigger motor would clog up. Ex marks deck is designed very well.
Well, I felt better seeing this video. My lawn is jacked up and so I’m going to try and get it looking better. A lot of work! I guess that happens when you aren’t home to watch it like I wasn’t You are still the best!!!
Good grief. I'm not sure how one "accidently" throws equipment away - but if you don't have the equipment to bag, the first thing to do would be to beg, borrow, or rent something that could. Gray leaf spot? Would this be a good time to point out that the first rule of fungal infections is to bag, don't mulch, to avoid spreading the spores and infection? Then you mow (and bag) at the highest setting to start with, drop it a notch and mow it again the next day, repeating the process until it is at your normal preferred mowing height. Also, continue to bag, not mulch, until the fungus is under control.
Glad I could help. And while I'll probably continue to use the N-Ext line, I think I'll look elsewhere if I need lawn advice. Signed, a happy owner (and as-needed user) of a bagging mower and multiple rakes, including the Maintainer.
I would highly recommend getting a Honda mini tiller with the thatcher attachment. It does an excellent job of bringing dead material out of the grass and would also break up the clumps. I’ve had mine since 2023 and it gets used frequently. It is a workhorse and it pays me every time I use it!!
I don't think SA is one of those grasses you can dethatch. You'd end up cutting the stolens off.
During the summer, especially during the rain season you have to stay on the lawn almost twice a week for it to remain manageable with a push mower in Florida...🌞🍊🌧️
So true, which is why I try to mow my own. Lawn care companies typically try to keep to their weekly schedule, so will tend to cut it shorter to avoid overgrown lawns in a week. Paying them to mow twice a week would be exorbitant. I also have the same Ego self propelled mower on a quarter acre lot, and I can barely cut the lawn once on a 10 amp-hour battery.
Think a bag may cost less than dealing with that
What can i use to get ride of yellow nutsedge in my centipede yard that wont burn up the grass?
I think part of why it’s clumping so bad is since your lawn is used to that small walk behind mower, the weight of the kubota weighs down and it cuts lower even with the deck at 5 inches, I see the same on my front yard when I use my riding mower every once a while on it. The toro recycler isn’t as heavy so it doesn’t sit in the grass
Great video, next time this happens, used the zero turn again, but this time cut it at 5 then on the 2nd cut drop it 4.75, the the 3rd cut drop it 4.5 . Now on your 4 th cut raise it to 4.75, on the 5th cut 4.75 different direction, then on the 6th cut raise it to 5. Now in between the cuts wait to 30-an hour that will give time to dry, plus you can blow it the back pack blower. I hope this helps . Thanks
I do the same thing. I either blow the leaves out of the St. Augustine or I blow off the cut grass. Alot easier blowing then raking.
This is one of the most painful videos Ive watched that you’ve posted. Ouch! My condolences. With all of this Florida rain, whats worse….wait and cut when overgrown, or cut when damp/wet?
Hello, i need advice with my lawn. I have bermuda lawn and my neighbors lawn is St Augustine and it invaded my lawn . Is there any to kill St August and not harm mine? Also how can i avoid St Augustine from crossing over. Thank you for you time!
Thank you for showing this and normalizing screw-ups. I can't count how many times I've credited you when I get lawn compliments. I have a huge party this weekend, but I missed my last tenacity window and now I have weed overgrowth - every single second in the yard I shake my head and say Allyn would be so disappointed in you 😅. thank you so much - I appreciate you!!
Thank you !
I'm lucky that I can bag my clippings when needed and put them out to the curb in compostible bags and the village picks it up twice a week.🙂
I wish my empire zoysia could get overgrown. It struggled this year but its getting there now. Man all that grass, I probably would have composted some, and put some down as mulch in my garden beds and put straw over it.
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I have citrazoy in south Florida (ft Lauderdale area) that I planted in Feb. I can’t figure out why it is struggling so much in the freedom factory. This stuff is bullet proof here. I’ve tried empire and zorro, and it gets killed by fungus every year. The citrazoy is really easy to grow. Just like st Augustine, but cut it shorter (1 3/4 inches at my house). It’s Amazing!
Also, been I. The position you’ve been with overgrown st Augustine. In the future, maybe try to side discharge away from the area you’re cutting and just leave it till the next cut. That way it’s a thinner layer that can dry out on top of the grass. it will be just one layer. Then it won’t be so heavy smashing down your grass. I’m no expert, but that’s the way I’ve done it in the past to avoid it clumping up on you.
Why the yellowing? And how do you fix it? I go through this every year with my St. Aug and still haven’t figured out what to do to get rid of the yellow.
What I do, is I mulch, and work my way down each level. That getting me better results. Bagging is best for the first cut.
But I can see how this would be a lot, I only cut around 3k sq feet and I end up around 10, 42 gallons bag.
If I recall he has over 10k sq feet, so that is a lot of bags.
Take those clippings and throw it in a compost bin. Take your greens, brown leaves or ripped cardboard and mix in a little soil and keep it moist, within 3 months you'll have some excellent soil. I built two compost bins (it's like a 35x35x35 areated bin made from old scrap 2x6s) I alternate between the two bins, turning it maybe once every two weeks.
19:57 what I used to do with no blower was wide discharge and cut forward back cut then make all my lines the same direction so all the clumps are in one big pile so I can rake it in a bag. But yea LCN. Keep those baggers. LOL
Just did this to my yard today. Took me 4 cuts to get the front yard ‘cut’. Out of town for 12 days and a lot of rain.
Not here to beat a dead horse about raking. It’s a learning experience either way and that’s sometimes what it’s about. Thanks for the longer video and all the content! Stay safe out there!
Pretty sure they sell rakes in Florida. Get busy raking and own your defeat 😂
A lot can be said for a bagging attachment once in a rare while when the grass gets so overgrown. The lost nitrogen from bagged clippings is negligible if you're using ferts anyway.
install mulching blades on the big boy and put the chute down. Mulch it over and over. No point in side discharging after the initial cut.
I understand your feeling about the Kubota. I have a Z411 and it is the best mower I have ever used. I love it.
Wouldn't using the mulching setting on the mower work instead of side discharge?
Did I understand you to say that you have Zoysia, St. Augustin and Bermuda in your lawn ?
I'm curious because I think I have Zoysia with some Bermuda mix over the years. I need to get some grass seeds for some bare spots. What to you recommend? I'm new to this. Thank you.
We get it. You have nowhere to put it. Put on your truck bed and take it to the dump.
Last week I saw some mowers pull up to my neighbors house with one of those giant ride on mowers… mind you their yard is small, only 1-2 passes on one of those and it’s done. They spent more time maneuvering the thing around than they would just pulling their push mower off
Can you put the clippings in the pond? Won't it biodegrade?
I have that same Kubota zero turn at work, that thing is so friggin loud especially when you start it. The choke is full throttle pushed all the way forward, so when you start it you have to back down from full throttle and that sucker in an enclosed shop area, boy you know when someone fires it up 😂
I'm in Central Florida and last week we got rain almost every day later in the day. I missed my mow day of Thursday and cut Saturday and I also had a ton of growth, so much my lawn is yellow now. I did bag though as soon as I saw how much got cut. IDK why you didn't just rake it up and toss them in those trash bins!
Most of us fans in SE Texas wish we had that "problem". The heat pump is already in full effect and the St. Augustine is having trouble with staying hydrated and growing so lush. Another month of high water bill.
Rake, yard Vac, bag it and bring it to the dump. I've been watching your videos for the last two years in an effort to be better at making my yard look great. So far the efforts are going great, I've gone from a pretty barren weedy wasteland, that was only mowed as maintenance, to greenery all around now. I get told my yard looks better now than it when it was previously professionally landscaped. I've gotten the itch and want that spray cart set up and to start trying all these great products you advertise. As much as I love scotts, I dont want to be just a step product line guy anymore. For those who watch and don't play golf, pick it up. You get to spend 3 to 5 hours on 130+ acres of maintained and landscaped property and all kinds of great ideas as to what to do to your own property.
When You have to break the 1/3 rule that much…mow a little part of the lawn at the time bagging it, then as You go You put it in thick large black plastic bags and later on you will think what to do with those clipping…why would You even think about mulching or side discharging?!
I don’t get it, we watch Your TH-cam channel because You are very knowledgeable about lawn, You know these stuff better than us?! I guess You jumped into this project just a bit too quickly without giving it a proper thought first…but I guess it is good for TH-cam content (and future content on how to recover it from here) 😉
Come on, its all about content.
@@andresruiz62 Yeah, either he's an idiot or this is just exaggeration for the video.
My bahia absolutely took off with all the rain in the last week, highest i could cut it was 5 inchs, had to send the hubby out with the thatch rake and fill the lawn bins.
Hey AL. Greetings from Northwest Indiana. My lawn has been looking great thanks to all your knowledge. Last week I applied some green pop, at correct rate, with a half rate of propiconizole. Every is yellowing!! I've been watering heavily to try and "rinse" it out. But it's not working. Do you think an app of chelated iron would help the yellowing, or is that just too much going on??
I know you've said before that you don't want to get into PGR (plant growth regulators), but it might be worth it to look into. It's a game changer (at least on my Bermuda)!
Yes he has to keep doing stupid shit like this to keep making content. It would be boring if he wasn't constantly chasing his tail. Easily could have put fungicide and insecticide down after properly bagging this grass. Also put PGR and iron. I live 15 miles away (he says he is in Bradenton but I found his place in Parrish) and mow once every 3 weeks. I have floratam, disease free. I use PGR of course
Should have bag mowed it with the ego cutting 1/3 off, maybe a little more, right b4 trash day, fill your and as many neighbors trash cans. Then they pick it up. Then 2 days later you can bag mow again 1/3 off again and fill your trash can. They pick that up and you bag mow again 1/3 off. Takes like 10 days and you fill your bins 3 times but it's takes just as much work to keep it short lol so I don't let mine over grow.
you have a mower with a 10 inch deck height???
He said though that he accidentelly threw away the bag for the Ego, so he had no bad, that's why he was saying he had no choice and had to do what he did.
He said though that he accidentelly threw away the bag for the Ego, so he had no bag, that's why he was saying he had no choice and had to do what he did.
@@poisonousnut mine goes up to 8, so just go as high as possible, then 4 days later come down 2and then 4 days later down 2 more..etc..make it work
@@natewalls4850 missed that. I'd borrow a bag mower from neighbor. Trying to mulch that much is more work than just bagging it plus none is spread on the mulch beds etc.
Forget the rake or blower. Raise the deck 1" on the zero turn and mow in one direction. Then rake it up. Easy.
I hate when I have side discharge
I know you say the St Augustine is best when it's cut long, but I cut my a little shorter because of all the moisture that gets trapped within. I don't cut to low, but deff. not really tall.
It would have been awesome if one of your buddies did a lawn recue video onyou.
Kinda reminds me of auto shop owners that drive around in beaters because they're too busy or tired to work on their own stuff.
You should have bagged it and included some in each merch order like Cleetus does with his broken race car parts. Or turned it into some limited run "super fert" and sold it.
Got to give the mower a real test. Get a blower to make piles and get to bagg’n. That electric blower isn’t strong enough to move that grass around.
Question, do you not like St Augustine grass or just want two Zones? I have St Augustine grass/Buffalo lawn here in Cali and curious if I should change it.
Would you consider getting a billygoat vacuum?
Do you have any recommendation for chinch bugs? I have put down well beyond the yearly recommended rate of bifenthrin and they are still devastating my ProVista St Aug. Is there another chemical I should be applying, or does bifenthrin really take weeks to kill chinch bugs?
Wow, this is something alright! All that extra debris makes me cringe! I prefer solid mulching blades and slightly heavier overlapping when I cut. Bagging just isn’t an option for me.
You knew exactly what you were doing when you let this grow that long big chop for better content to teach us your students how to manage overgrow thank you Lawn Nut
why didn't you just rake up the clippings and leave it for yard waste pickup?
Also, tip for sod planting. Use wood golf tees to keep your seams together. Once the roots start taking, the wood tees will start pushing out and they won't damage your blades like garden stakes/staples will
When I my get behind on mowing my yard Ill bag all of the clippings to avoid that problem!
Hey Allan, do you use the super turbo setting on your mower? (you have to enable it in the app when it's connected via Bluetooth)
😁❤️the video🧐I didn’t see the cart buddy in the review. I’d like to purchase one.
I really have no idea why you did not rake it all up when you did the first cut, I bag every 6 or so mows and take it all to the local dump. Otherwise when I de-Thach in the fall I will have a bigger job on my hands. Looks like you really F up on a number of levels. Glad to see that us mere mortals aren't the only ones with lawn care problems.
Yo Allyn, Is it recommended that your side discharge from time to time? I have SA grass
Lesson for today is always have a mower with a bagger. Ware is your recycler, super recycler and timemaster. The timemaster would have cleaned it up nice with how big the bag is
5:54 neighbors:no more yard fanatic dominating our lawns. Now he’s just like us who let our yards get overgrown.
I made the same mistake while waiting for my ride on mower. My St grow like 14" and my lawn suffered a lot and I did rake and bag everything up lol. I thought those yellow and brown spot in ST Augustine is fungus mine are brown with gray and do you have something for that wild Bermuda I have a couple spots to fix :(
Do you not have compost service from your waste manabement service down in Florida? I'd say rake that stuff up and mulch all your trees and bushes, and take the rest to a commercial compost.
Doesn’t it almost every day in the afternoon? How’s it going to dry out?
Love it. A video on how to waste more than one day on cutting grass that is long.
Hello why didn’t you rake it out? thanks
Couple of options: Rake and create a Compost pile OR rake it in the grass every time the sun comes out. Most imp next time don't let the grass grow so tall. Don't sweat, all will be fine.
Is there any particular reason why the clipping are not bagged?
I know this might not be the right venue for this question but when will you carry Hydr8?
Always find a way to bring new content. Looking in the bright side.
A man in the lawn business can't let this happen.