How to Change the Transmission Oil in a Farmall Super M-TA | You Might be Surprised
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- How to Change the Transmission Oil in a Farmall Super M-TA | You Might be Surprised. What transmission oil should you run in your antique Farmall tractors? How to properly maintain your Farmall tractor. #farmallfanatic #farmall #antiquetractors
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Just got a 56 300 utility w/T/A. As I get it running and working, this info may have saved my tractor for another 60 yrs.
I learned something there. It makes sense. The torque amplifiers use clutch discs and the Hy-Tran is definitely better. I think we'll go the Hy-Tran in those after this. Nobody changes their transmission oil every year. It's impractical and not necessary when you only put a few hours on per year. When farmers were running 800-900 hours per year, yeah, I get that, but not 50-100 hours. The oil also got much better than what they had in 1954. If you buy the cheap oil at Walmart, it's exponentially superior to anything that they had in 1954. That's what I kept saying about low ash 30, is it's too darn heavy for winter. Now with the multigrades, it's much better. I was going to do a 560 complete oil change video last year, but my cameras were not working and lost my footage.
Now it's time ⏲️ for the old girl 👧 to work! Schools 🏫 out 4 summer ☀️! Nice video 📹 again 👌!
Good job putting Hy-Tran in it. That’s a sharp looking SMTA
Thanks
Are you going to red power roundup with Pete in Nebraska
Thanks for sharing all of the information on the process and the oil changes. Always enjoy learning from someone who knows what to use. Looking forward to seeing it in the field.
11:10 - saw a video on car repair whose whole point was "Don't drain what you aren't sure you can replace" . I puckered myself one time that way. XD
Right lol
My grandfather and i would agree with you on transmission oil because he knew more than anybody who has international tractors now, and plus, you are a very knowledgeable international tractor's and that's what I like red power and 88 an out the gate 👍👍👍
Great video. Looks like it may have had regular oil changes with how easy those drain plugs undid. All the best 🇬🇧.
Nice job I allways run the oil out on the ground near lake Erie. It's fun to watch the colors on the water. I have to change mine also but it has a filter . The cost its ridiculous what was $45 now $150 what a scam that is. Have a good night
Ahahahahahahaha 😆
@@FarmallFanatic Have a good day Gino
I love these videos of the super mta repairs and little things. Plus your thoughts on things. As you said there isnt many videos about transmission oil for these super mta's.
Back to the earlier comment Ive always run 85w140 in my farmall 400 transmission since 1987 TA still running strong so say what you want. I myself will continue to run it, tractor has 10000 hours on it
Well i'm not forcing anyone to do anything
Nice SMTA! A battery powered transfer pump makes adding that oil much easier.
Excellent video Gino :) also will say like helping hints on Farmall or McCormick International or International tractors or combine or machinery stuff matinne up in your videos too ! But on 1950 Cockshutt 40 my Uncle used Hy Tran 80w90 in transmission plus PTO and he said ran super and change fluid plus filter ever 5 years Lol ! I never got to read owners manual on it because he wouldn't share to me and let serivce that Tractor to himself! But read all McCormick International & International on 1963 McCormick International B414 Loader Desiel motor Loader type , 1968 McCormick International 105C combine gas motor, 1968 International 624 A Desiel motor tractor no Torque Amplifier on it was option then , 1978 International 724 B Desiel motor Loader type had Torque Amplifier and remember my dad put Hy Trans 80w90 he change ever 5 years plus filters to for transmission! But one helpfull hint Gino if slightly slip in gears or range shifter plus feel bounce like horse get up going it low on fluid to top up or needs change ! Yes remember my dad said Hy Trans fluid expensive in 1980's to 1990! But said do before change it Gino is correct my dad did that too before put new fluid in plus filter as you said to ! Also remember my dad want me help change in 1990 year and said oh my goodness it worn buy smell off and dad said want milkshake in weak chocolate Toffee way ! Said nope but stunk smell like skunk Lol! Gino doing well of job Boom 💥 tractors !
That diesel to clean out the sludge makes good starter to burn brush piles in the Winter. Those drain plugs looked almost like new. Most guys would make a mental note to put in new ones to replace the rounded plugs the next time they changed oil in two or three years. I guess oil was so cheap they didn't think about filters on the rear end or even on the TA? I remember on some of the Japanese Fords they just had a screen on the hydraulic system.
Oh yeah it definitely does
Interesting video 👍 i have a 1958 B250 diesel built in Bradford Uk and the positioning of the drain plugs for back end transmission etc on it and the level plugs are all almost identical to yours 🤔 one other thing meant to comment on is in your intro you comment 4th Gear in field work my B250 is only 5 speed and there are many field operations that can be done with it in 4th gear but 5th is definitely a transport gear 👍 i pull a 2 furrow 12 inch plough in 3rd gear effortlessly 💪 never been brave enough to try 4th in case of rocks 😳 Red Power 💪💪💪💥
In the next video I plow with the super c
Last time i did an Mta i used my Samson 27 gal oil Suction system and found it to be about the best way to get 99% of the oil out of an old tractor as such. And we found with the top deck plugs that you always got some water in mine was usually from sitting out side in the rain . And when i went to refill we would pump a few gallons of diesel then hytran til we got clean enough out drain then filled with fresh oil. Shell makes the current version of the Hytran now for CNH since it had to be updated for the Latest CVT transmissions. The original is still made by FL Viscosity
I like the original
Good day AJ So u mean shell makes Htran oil, oftrn wondered who did.
Is there a place cheaper than CNH to buy same oil ? Thanks
That is a good looking tractor
Thanks
I had an old guy tell me one time that what he does instead of changing the oil every year, he just parks the tractor on a slight hill and drains just a little bit out to get rid of any condensation that’s built up. I have no idea if it works or not but I thought it was an interesting tidbit
Definitely sounds more economical l o l
I'm surprised you don't have a little battery operated transfer pump. Nice to see the tractor coming all together!
I figure as long as i'm strong enough, I'll hold out lol
Always Army strong!
You need to find a good set of 8 point sockets. I found a set at one of the auctions I was at years ago and they work great on the old Farmalls.
Nothing beats a crescent wrench in my opinion.. i've tried them all
@Farmall Fanatic I like my left handed metric crescent wrenches..lol 😂
Army Birthday today, spent many years with it, thanks to you for serving!
Yes it is
@@FarmallFanatic Thx, I retired in 1998, did 22 more years contractor with INSCOM and JSOC
Wow, that was milky……looked like a cafe latte draining out. 😉
Lol
Yes, keep blocking the idiots! Love your videos, I'm jealous lol
Oh i've blocked hundreds over the years
My dad always called his crescent wrench “ his Chinese socket set “ lol 🇺🇸
Lol
I know what you mean on the manual re prints. I have the original and the updated one for my wife’s super c. Save your buckets for the HYTRAN, our case ih dealer gives a slight discount if you bring your buckets back and have them fill them out of the tote. Im sure your dealer does something similar.
I will definitely check... For sure I save those buckets though
Good day Yea that is right, take empty pail in for discount usually Feb- March. Thanks I had forgot about that.
Love the John Deere in the air cleaner
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I agree use hi tran think you were dead on with 560 being when IH figured out to use hi tran dad bought a new 460 diesel in 1958 that's when we started using it in all the red tractors forward I use it in my 460 gas that I have no trouble with TA on it. I thought the oil you drained looked pretty good so you should be set to show us some farming now. I'm off to Big Red
Power days in Grand Island Ne.
If I didn't have so much stuff to do here I would be there
Just a little moisture clean oil I got habor freight crank oil pump works great
Kafferlins might actually be competitive. I thought maybe it'd be cheaper to get NH Hyttan at wiggers. Same just different color jug. I just got 2.5 gal for $63, it figures out to be almost the same in cost.
115 for 5 gallons or 126 for 5 gallons
The problem is that you had to drive clear to wiggers so you definitely didn't save any in gas money
Lubricants will ignite some of the most animated “discussions” on the internet. I’m getting ready to service my 47 M before a plow day next weekend. What size is the square opening on the fill plug on the platform? What do you use to loosen/tighten yours? Thanks!
I used a 3/4" breaker bar
@@FarmallFanatic Thank you very much, I couldn't find that answer ANYWHERE! I really appreciate it!!!
Where did you get your manual? Very informative video!!
I might have got it off of ebay but I cannot remember
Good video! What about the oil in the "Belt Pulley" gear box ?????
I can only fit so much into one video
Oh man, can you imagine changing every tractor you owns transmission oil every year? Better take out a new mortgage every year!
My parade princesses will be lucky to see once every 10 years. And I only run 80/90 but I don't have TA either.
That seems to be about the average
I agree 2 or 3.
I was thinking its a separate compartment for the TA and the rear end.... CNH suggestion is hytran in all though.
We switched from CNH hytran (now Shell oil) to the Viscosity hytran ( original manufacturer for hytran from the beginning until December of 2021? We weren't happy after CNH switched supplier. You should be fine extending the drain interval as long as moisture is controlled from getting in it.
We get bulk oil and its still 14+ per gallon 😮 LGB!
Yes I was less than impressed when they switched suppliers
We actually had lots of foaming issues in the skid loaders. Sight glass was why we first noticed. Never had that with viscosity oil . My wife's uncle was an engineer at IH from 56-81 and a friend was an engineer for the hytran research and he had some interesting insight
So basically they're not making hytran anymore
@@FarmallFanatic correct. They call it hytran but it's not near the same formula as the last previous one. It's gone through many revisions to help with wet brake chatter, CVT etc. I wish there was the hytran from the 80's yet for older machines
The amount of moisture is not to bad !
Agree
@@FarmallFanatic I’ve see much worse
How much oil did you get from the very front plug? I forgot about that one when I changed mine.
1/2 gallon
Need one of them transfer pumps for the oil
You are correct
What does it brake in the TA my dads 504 has a problem with the TA not working right and my dad think it’s the pins
Tear it apart ....ull know quickly
As you fill rearend up, it slowly fill ya up at the same time as you fill rearend
Say what
Famous IH Hy Tran oil...
Looks like it was well maintained before you bought it.
Wasn't terrible, but definitely needed to be changed. Ridiculous what the price of oil is...
And it actually came down a little bit for some reason
Personally I would use hytran in all 3 systems, transmission, the torque, and hydraulic system and let it go at that.
In my opinion if its calls for it I use it.
Is same here
...filled to THE RIM.....!!!!!!
Oh I did 😆
Good job…I would have bought all 2 1/2 gallon jugs…just me.
They were quite a bit more expensive
There is actually a company that makes the original formula of hy tran I can't remember its name the newer Case IH or New Holland hy Tran it's not the same I believe it's made for modern tractors
I agree
@@FarmallFanatic do you have a number on how many MTA'S were made we had one the independent PTO was removed and the torque amplifier was removed also our two 706 s The torque amplifiers were removed by the previous owner I guess there is a shaft you could put in it's place he said they didn't need them for what they were doing and took them out and kept them for the other tractors that needed them he had 40 or so ih tractors at a time for a custom harvesting business and he went through every series IH made so I didn't question his decisions
Have you seen the price of snake oil lately I would consider $400 a bargain
I assume nothing is a bargain nowadays
Need to get you a 10 foot brush hog for that tractor it would handle it really well
I was thinking eight foot
@@FarmallFanatic got 8 foot heavy Duty finished mower trailer type I would love to trade you that John Deere 60 it's hooked to right now for Super MTA LOL
Lol
If i change tran oil every year I'd b changing oil in couple tractor only run 100 hours a year i pull bottom plug for a sec make sure no water
That's all I do
Does you're400 have hytran in the rear end I feel like your gonna have a leaking mess on your hands
That four hundred probably doesn't even have any oil in the rear end
With all due respect, when I change mine, I keep the used oil an put it in tall containers an leaves it sit for six months, all the water, heavy dirt, metal fillings an any contaminated all separate an settle to the bottom, oil on top is as good as new, saves me lots of money.... Just saying....
@@funnyfarm62 I'm willing to try it for sure
That hy-tran is extremely hygroscopic.
I think all the oils are
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Transmission is still 80w90.... the TA and hydraulic is still hytran
The torque amplifier and transmission share the same fluid.
Except on tractors NOT equipped with a torque, you cannot use 80/90 or it will screw up the the torque and you will need to rebuild it.
@@FarmallFanatic i meant differential