Glitch Infinite - D3_Will (King Dedede) Vs. LeoN (Bowser) - SSBU Ultimate Tournament
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.พ. 2022
- Glitch Infinite is a Super Smash Bros Ultimate Tournament in Laurel, MD
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This made me not feel so bad for getting jet-hammered on Elite smash
LOL
I’ve said it time and time again, dedede is a heavy anime swordsman and Jet hammer is his counter.
@Cody Goble especially the dedede purple alt with the dragon on it, really sells that pitch.
That game 2 ledge trap was a fucking crime
DeDeDe is my third, but I agree. I felt for LeoN there... Feels like Pikachu neutral special spam.
Damn Leon must have a glitch curse, second time getting upset in glitch pools
His bowser just spams up b out of shield
@@elefanamir9087Spam up b =is Spargo not leon. Leon just appropriate ly does it. :)
MY HEART IS RACING BROH
4:20, Correction: D3 is required to air dodge. I know this may sound absurd as every other character would not air dodge since it will bring their hurt box to the blast zone for the first few frames, but D3 air dodge is different. When D3 air dodges to the side, he nearly stops all momentum better than jumping, making him live an extra few percents then he would normally if he just DI'd.
how true is this? Do you have a vid?
Source pls!
Check out the Dededediscord! This is something we’ve manned out before and as the comment above says, you have to air dodge to the side to live horizontally at high percents. Jumping leaves dedede in enough drift to go into the blast zone.
I believe this, he's fat/ fluffy asf for a reason.
How to get me to root for you regardless of who you are playing against:
Step one: jet hammer
This was so fun to watch! Need to see more heavies play against each other. 👏🏼🤩
100% facts
That set was very intense. Be still my beating heart!
That game 2 ending was the definition of insanity
yeah wtf was leon doing lmao. Man literally kept doing neutral getup or wake up attack and got punished the exact same way like 8 times in a row.
@@libenhagos9335 DDD covers all options. Waiting at ledge is not possible because the Gordo is about to drop so you have less time to think. Gordo covers the jump. And DDD can just react to Bowser. At least this is how it looks like
@@libenhagos9335 Explain what Leon could've done there. Bowser literally has no options against that.
@@libenhagos9335 theres a reason that gordo alone is a top 3-arguably top 1- ledge trap in the game. Not even taking into account how active ftilt is. That combined with bowsers massive hurtbox and lack of ledge mixups, and its basically just execution on the dededes part.
He has no options. Ledge hang gets hit by gordo and can even be kill confirmed off of. Neutral getup as weve seen doesnt work too well. Roll in also gets hit by ftilt. Jump gets hit by gordo. Getup attack can *sometimes* send gordo back, but can he punished stupidly hard.
So its really just a bad situation all around. Some characters can deal with it pretty well, bowser is not one of them.
@@joey10987 gotta get up attack the gordo, the timing is kinda tight but it’s possible
Wow, what a great set. D3's edge traps and reads with the jet hammer were amazing, but leon's responses were also great.
I thought they were lame lol…guess it wins games though…but spam spam spam
@@thomaskiser3886 yeah friend plays the D3 too super lame play everyone else he plays is so much different
@@thedudeinhisden9163 all heavies are hype imo
Unlike aegis and other busted characters
@@thomaskiser3886 hey say it’s lame all you want, but Leon has taken so many games with his cheesy mechanic so I don’t see a problem with him losing to a cheesy mechanic.
@@infernomaster1030 I did say I thought it was lame haha
What an insane ending
You earned a new fan D3will, very well played!
That last stock was CRAZY
Good job Big Penguin.
Heavy dittos are always always ALWAYS the best! Also about that Gordo ftilt ledgetrap the answer is honestly just to time your getup attack to hit the Gordo back which at least should let you trade which gives them less time to set up their next trap, and specifically with Bowser who has a massive getup attack you could straight up beat it if they misspace
Wow, what a match
8:36 WAIT, did he PURPOSEDLY delay his side b this time to make Leon think he messed up and had time to jump??
Kinda seems like leon just jumped thinking he had enough time to escape before goro became active (since goro comes out at a specific angle)
One of the most intense matches.
This is the most even yet fun to watch game I've ever seen.
Smashville looks so tiny with D3 and Bowser there lmao
This match was a thumb bitter bypass the nail, great set to both players!!
one of the best sets from these pools
This is that funniest match in a lot of time in smash bros
Jeez this was one of the best sets in this tournament
Awesome game loved both competitors
And this is why I watch smash tournaments, good shit.
Am I wrong that Leon could've drop off ledge, double-jump fair and hit the Gordo back to D3? I mean, yes, D3 could side-b and catch the Gordo, but that'd change up some timing, I'd assume, creating a new option-select situation
yeaah, he clearly doesnt knew the mu very weel, got overwhelmed. The d3 played on point.
You mean like exactly what Charles said might work at the end?
@@Phosypha sure, but I'm explicitly suggesting he *not* try to come back on-stage. The commentator said that Leon could jump back on-stage. I feel regrabbing ledge would be safer, given D3 down-tilt might not reach a regrabbed ledge before Leon's next option, if at all.
@@epicurioh It's possible LeoN didn't do that because it would put him at risk of getting hit by D3's dash attack, which hits ledge and hits like a truck.
@@PuppetMasterIX Oof. Yeah, that's a scary move. A potential response would be to Beefy Up-B to catch the dash attack quickly and regain neutral, with the option of just regrabbing if it seems safe in that split second. But that would be more vulnerable than a ledge jump f-air if mistimed or D3 doesn't dash attack. However, an option like my suggestion would probably be a pro's choice, as it's beating out an option in sheer fame data through reaction. It seems like that's how pros tend to play, even in last-hit scenarios (I'm thinking about Light, especially).
What a nail biter! Amazing set 🤠
Good stuff d3 will !!!
Great set! Love a good heavyweight scrap
Glorious.
Haha, that was an awesome set! So many flinches.
Yup, still fun!
Wait until the last bounce for Gordo, and as it's about to hit you on stage, jump. You have immunity frames while it passes through your body and you can jump past the hammer. Alternatively, the moment it hits the floor and does it's highest bounce (the last one before it falls off stage) jump and hold shield. You'll air dodge as soon as possible and you can jump to center stage.
Edit:
Reason why you wait until the last bounce is because it'll be the highest, giving you the most time to air dodge past it (can't exactly air dodge if it's right on you, can you?)
Also, third way to handle Gordo: Get Up Attack. Whenever you hit the Gordo back it will ALWAYS target Dedede. It is NOT randomized. If you time your get up attack to hit the Gordo near the last bounce, the Dedede will (likely) forward tilt, and will be left susceptible to being hit by the Gordo. This is an especially strong option against a Dedede holding Jet Hammer, since they cannot shield.
I just got second place at a tournament because I didn't know how to deal with Gordo, thanks for taking the time to write that up.
@@bowser4824 edited with a third way to handle Gordo
LET'S GO, UMD!
D3WILL THO!!!!!
COMMENTATORS DID NOT NEARLY POP OFF ENOUGH FOR THIS WOW
It’s my sleepover I get to pick the movie
What a set!
LETS GO D3
Really wonder how D3nisty would do against Will. Would be interesting to watch.
Do you know what happened to him? He has stopped uploading a month now I think.
@@AJBlu10 Rob has real life to worry about. I also wonder too.
@@AJBlu10 he's still around in the ddd discord. Maybe he's burnt out from TH-cam.
jesus the ending was crazy af
OMG WHAT A ROLLERCOASTER FINISH !!...
King Dedede for fucking life
LETS FUCKING GOOOO
i dont think ive ever seen so many ad breaks on a single video before jfc
Bowser fighting D3 from the ledge:
"Let me in... LET ME IIIIIIIN!!!"
Ya love to see it
Nice D3!
Wowwww great ass set holy shittt
These commentators knew their stuff
I was gonna make a D3 won’t joke, lol here’s a problem with that now
Wait Leon the Lucina player and LeoN the Bowser player went to the same tournament? Mamma Mia
people crying at d3 winning ya'll the ones putting him in low/low-mid tier then salty that he wins THE ONLY WAY HE CAN. Top players are where they are because they know how to deal with cheese so stop whining and preaching that you could do any better than what Leon did
Idk about Ultimate, but I know in Smash 4 I used to just drop from ledge and u-air gordo (as falcon), mixing up the timing and options as well.
Is Bowser's f-air just too laggy/slow to do this? Or is it just a bad option in this game? Even a dogshit character at the ledge (like DK) should be able to n-air gordo or something, sure the D3 player can counter it, but at least it's a mixup option.
Good match was has had by all I'm pooped!.
saaaaad.
Leon I feel you
Not criticizing cause I don't know the match up at all but could leon have dropped from stage and done a quick fair to deflect gordo on the ledge? I can't believe get up and roll on ledge were the only options :(
Dedede might not be the worst after all
Subspace rematch
Petition to give Bowser flip kick?
Yo Bowser fair into flip jump spike would go hard as shit
@@damarihanson3876 bars
Was that DDD ledge trapping optimally toxic?
I wouldn't say so. Leon had options around it but didn't know the match up so well
@@FAKE_NARU What options?
So what does toxic mean here now?
Yoooo that game was good advice for me low-key because I be having problems with fighting other heavies as a dedede player
If you have trouble against Bowser in particular literally just inhale lmao
Bowsers front air could really use more power.
Played Leon a few times he is a tough opponent
Jesus
Don't know if it me or I feel like will could of gimped in a lot of situations when returning to ledge by inhale
disgusting victory oO ..
Great to see some heavies fight!! I gotta say, both players didn't apply some critical matchup knowledge/tools. Specifically - both these characters are the easiest 2-frames in the game, and this NEEDS to be abused.
Bowser should be going for constant 2-frames with lingering UpB at ledge. Stand right at ledge, hit upb sometime before Dedede UpBs, ez 2-frame for free. Just need to watch for the UpB onstage, which is super telegraphed.
D3will didn't mix up ledgeguarding options - which worked when Leo just facerolled into 4 straight Ugordo traps, sure. But Bowser is one of the easiest 2-frames in the game (just dtilt/dash atk). Will changed up his playstyle a lot by the end - less constant rolls back and forth - but kept Nairing onto Bowser shield. Inhale would've done wonders for him too.
Anyways great to see at Glitch, more more dedede matches please :)
Lol KING dede de real king I k ow we had this in the bag
2:56 wrong, Leon himself has said that Bowser is carrying him with his speed and kill power. Bowser is a damn good character, stop this "Bowser is bad and carried" nonsense
He is good but has clear flaws that can be abused and some nearly unwinnable matchups
It's ok guys, he's only 3 minutes in, let him finish watching the full set
No one says that seriously LMAO. He's a flawed high tier character and that's what the majority of people think
ddd underrated
Wow King D has 1000 IQ
Dedede is so hard to kill off the top thick boi plus a fast faller
They both folded but they are better than me so i understand
how bowser get out ledge
He doesn't lol
broo that bowser always falling into king ddd spam side a lol
D3 can cover bowsers roll and neutral get up at once with ftilt, I'm pretty sure, and gordo forced him to pick an option
Get up attack wouldn't reach some times and ledge jump would lose to gordo, ledge drop would lose to gordo. Not many options there
Dude, Leon needs to drop and regrab the ledge, then move onto stage. To out time the gordo.
Yep
Thats an easy way to get yourself spike with the regrab
@@peterchou5370 I'm a Bowser main and I do it all the time , you just need to time it correctly, and there's plenty of time to do it. But yeah, the spike when regrab is a possibility.
Dash attack from DDD kills mad early then lmao it's super easy to react to with a DDD with a brain
nope, this gives DDD free dash attack on your regrab which will kill you super early (ddd main)
Rep UMD let’s go D3😎
Will doesn't use inhale enough
Somebody call somebody 😂
This seems like such a bad mu for bowser...
its even
It’s even but DDD ledge trap is really really good especially against bowser
Everyone saying even but LeoN thinks its +1 Bowser
@@C.J.T49 I disagree with it being way better for Bowser. Gordo stuffs out jumps very well as well as fair and inhale is super good to call out spot dodges and shield when the Bowser plays more grounded. Bowser's best tool to knock Gordo back is reverse up tilt which is super inconsistent and Bowser gets hit quite a bit when doing so. Granted he does have better mobility and is overall better in neut but imo it's very close. DDD's ledge trapping is much better than Bowser's but Bowser's is still amazing in the mu
@@C.J.T49 nair does not work well I know cause I use it all the time at best it's inconsistent and most of the time it hits Bowser or trades. Shielding it is super easy as DDD to and Gordo doesn't do much shield damage so they can keep doing that over and over. He can also jus use inhale to send it back to him. Leon has literally beat atomsk prob the best DDD in the world he has mu exp.
Leon should be dropping down and going under stage to other ledge
Bowser can't do that
@@deafie he can go under smashville but it takes too long to be useful in most situation
@@deafie He can on smashville. D3 is one of the few matchups it’s good in since he is so slow and can’t set up on the other side.
@@mysteriousmuffin6017 you sure? I feel like dedede could just run over and dash attack bowser for that. Whirling fortress isnt exactly fast. Id rather be hit by an ftilt than a dash attack
all leon had to do was not whiff that side B at the end, sighh
This was as shocking as finding a dead body on the glitch venue
Penguin!
Does D3 stand for Dedede? 😮
Ya, three D's
De De De
Lfg will
Omg. Falling Gordo off stage combos into fair = dead Bowser. Why didn't he use that tech?
Cause ledge trapping is free in this mu and it's safe damage. Bowser also ledge traps DDD hard so it isn't worth giving up stage control if he misses
8:13
Leone choked was all, but that was mad respect. Good job Both competitors
DUUUUUDE
If I was Leon my answer to his ledge trap would’ve of been to immediately drop from ledge and jump into fair while drifting back , fairing kordo back to King d
See that would be good for like one interaction. Give the DDD literally one more and he'll shield Gordo, walk up dtilt Bowser with no jump offstage then edge guard him lmao
Either that or dash attack which kills even earlier
Leon pretty much did that at 12:00 and the Gordo didn't hit ddd so he got uptilted for doing that. Its not as simple as that
@@yrneh755 which is why you only do it sparingly and condition him into expecting
@@sahlaysta3399 that's true but using shield in ledge trapping is pretty common and the risk reward ratio is highly skewed in DDD's favor. Best case scenario you get like 30 percent worst care you die at any percent as Bowser lol. Like I said it'll be good for like one or a couple interactions it's jus not a good consistent way to get out
i hate the way leon lost the set :(
Zany set
Is Leon still in the competition? It would suck to go out like that. :(
He is in the lower bracket and plays tomorrow in his first match against yonni. If he wins he plays after that against the loser of Goblin vs Nhan
@@JB-fd8jy Thanks man.
@@C.J.T49 Someone had a bad day.
@@C.J.T49 If you're nasty to random people on the internet over nothing on a "fine day", then I really do pity you.
people still dont know what a double elimination bracket is ...
En tant que main Bowser je suis frustré et énervé
Lmfaoooo DDD is so troll!
Leon choked
Dedede is so wack