New rule, if this is a discussion that actually has to be made, then once a human reaches 29 years old they can no longer age for 30 years, then they are 50 the next year. edit: I meant 60.
consensus is not an argument, science is a system of absolute hierarchy and not of democracy. a consensus is just a glimps ona situation but by no means any final word on anything in science. if so, we could hardly make any scientific discoveries bc discoveries would be againt consensus.
The Metatron truly has spread his wings. The people and organisations you are collaborating with truly have a difference on peoples lives, so be proud Raff!
btw tries are VERY bad carbon stores, actualy trees store barely any carbon if any, except in hyperboreal regions with permafrost. why? bc when they die they decay or the forrest burns down periodically ( some tree seeds even relie on wildfires to sprout etc, and trees liky eucalyptos purposefully concentrate easily flamable oils within their bark and tissues) in reality most carbon diaxide is absorbed by Algue, phyto plancton in the seas, then on land the biggest aborber are GRASSLANDS where fast growing grass accumulates every season and builts up a big sediment of not completely decayed grass under it that is taken out of the carbon Cycle. next come Swamps, where the water closes of the plant matter from oxygon and thus prohibits complete decay and reentry of co2 into the cycle, last are hyperborean forrests. that is basic ecology one learn in 3rd semester Biology, planting trees in dry regions, or the rainforrest or even central europe, does not help binding much co2 if any, and in cas eof the rainforrest may even add co2 overall , bc plant matter decays extremely fast in those envirements to justifie this plump and frankly idiotic actionism with "muh science" is an insult to the idea of science. planting a tree is pure feelgoodery and helps nothing. if you want to absorbe as much co2 as possible from atmosphere go and dump some containerships worth of fertilizer into the ocean, so it causes an algue bloom, which then does all at once causing Oxygen deficit bc of its mass and sinks all together to the bottom of the seamwhere it joins the sediment.
Its not about if the Clima Change exist or not , its about if its Human made or not . And the clima science is more the shame of science ! What is science , a work in progress , or a total authority ?
I think these people mostly fall into three categories Trolls out to get attention, confidence tricksters out to get money, or the mentally delusional. I'll allow a tiny number of alternate thinkers too, but they're very rare indeed.
@@Soapy-chan_old Absolutely not. Most of the greatest thinkers in history were "alternative thinkers". The problem is most people slapped with that label today are not arguing on facts just made up fantasies.
I love being open minded, and I don't like dismissing theories just because they're "incredible", but as Carl Sagan put it "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". In this case, the evidence is extremely lacking.
In my own humble opinion, I find this indicative of a weakness within the academic system. It's very appealing for academics to "stand out" and "make a name" for themselves. And this is very hard to do if all you do is repeat findings that your predecessors have discovered before you. Therefore, a few academics will tread a dark path of trying to be controversial for the sake of controversy, in order to get "noticed". Academic history is rife with these people. And sadly, not all of them ended up being discredited for it.
The funniest thing about this theory is the idea that the Holy Roman Emperor, the Eastern Roman Emperor and the Pope could agree on anything let alone some wacky conspiracy to create some Phantom Time.
@@argkitsune Emigration became the only hope for Muhammad and his followers' survival. In 622, they headed to Medina, another oasis town, where they were promised freedom to practice their religion. The move from Mecca to Medina is known as the hijra-the flight-and marks year 1 of the Islamic, or hijri, calendar. we arrive at 666 because there is a 44 year adjustment to be made due to some erroneous conversionin the past as explained in the video of "the forgotten planet" i previously posted. this is the reason for the parallels of atilla and alaric where all events in their life are exactly 44 years apart because they are the same person and two writer using two different calendar reference. watch the video i cannot explain it in detail here. , the islam part is explained in the latter part of the video
You didn't butcher that german - you made it actually really good! I am impressed! And yes - Illig is quite "notorious" amongst german-speaking history nerds for his bullshit.
@@p.s.shnabel3409 Yeah - he'd wish. Erich von Däniken is very widely known, while Illig is more known by people who are very much into history. He was even invited to an discussion in my hometown about his "hypothesis" for a giggle. Not the same with Däniken. He has more in common with that "Slav Denier"-Group, who say Slavs never existed, and their language is byzantine forced onto a gothic population. Although the latter are basically Nazis, while Illig and Däniken are not.
@@lynnm6413 Because they do not teach it in School, but if you read here and there for your own about History, you will encounter this Theory, gladly mentioned as BS normally.
@@lynnm6413 It is known among history buffs and people who had some profession in the historical field. I worked for 2 years in a museum and get to know some who knew Illigs theories and was confronted once with someone who actually embraced it. They all were history buffs and not so much "normally interested".
The only thing that I find fascinating about these theories is how eurocentric their understanding of history is. Like, do I have to believe almost 300 years never happened... only for EUROPE? For these conspiracy-theorists, civilization began with the Romans and maaaaayyybe classical Greece. Everything else was chaos and void, and turtles moving a plate full of oceans and land.
Well the Americas, Australia, etc were pretty undisturbed by European influences during that time, they could have developed independent of Europeans distorting history. So they "only" forgot about Asia and Africa^^
Because English speaking commity is primarily Eurocentric, if you shift the language away from any europe or us based language and you will see a different picture of how people see history and all their crazy theories about it.
Most of them are americans who are poorly teached about worldwide history, think that something 200 years old is very old (the wall in front of my house has 800 years, way older than the entire history of their country) and they can't tell you the difference between the Renaissance and ancient Babylon.
I know we have castles in the UK with written history as well as legal documentation lineage and books detailing what was bought and how much it was yet its all a myth
This reminds me in a turnabout way of the first chapter in a novel in Victorian England. A few people believe the house they live in is haunted. A special investigator takes the job of stopping the haunting. Through research they discover that there was a church on the land the house stands and the catacombs still exist. They also discover that there was a loving couple that was supposed to be buried together. He died elsewhere and was buried there. So they spin a tale of the woman haunting the house because she was not reunited in the grave. The bodies from the catacomb get taken out and buried in a regular cemetery and the wife's body gets buried beside her husband. Of course the people imagined the haunting. A new house with its own noises, a different place, also with different noises and the strange surroundings. But now they can believe it has been taken care of and they can sleep well again. The important part is a question from a new acquittance of the employer, what would she had done if there had been no forgotten grave and a loving couple? The answer: "We would have found something else. This is England, something awful has happened everywhere." And that goes for a lot of central Europe. So much stuff has happened (not all awful) everywhere that it would be difficult to hide a year. Three centuries? Impossible.
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Yes, people do sometimes imagine things for absolutely no reason. Though often they they lie or spout nonsense for reasons of their own.
@@Dreamfox-df6bg actually that doesn't happened very often, people are really not THAT stupid, expetially that many people (99.99% of all people that ever existed believied in ghosts, that's preatty specfic thing to immagine)
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 At least twice in my lifetime many thought the world was going to end. Some people remember events wrong they lived through themselves just 20 or 30 years later and don't get me started on the many conspiracy theories. People believe what they want to believe. That includes myself. Despite all the evidence to the contrary I still believe a better world is possible.
An actual conversation with an American I (Polish) had: - I can't wait to visit Europe! I've never been anywhere outside of the US! - Oh man, there is so much to see for you then! You've must've never seen a real castle! - ... Wait. So castles... really exist? - Um. Yes. - I mean I know they used to exist but like... in the past. But now?! I don't even want to know what schools over there look like.
I suppose this theory works if we are living in a simulated reality... I was playing Crusader Kings 2 and in the year 825 AD I converted my save game to Europa Universalis 4 which started in 1444. By the time I convert this play through all the way to Hearts of Iron, those poor earthlings will have no idea that 619 years of history never actually happened! Jokes on them lol
did you pass by victoria II to go to HOI ? (i supposed you used HOI IV ) , if so , i think victoria II start during 1836 to 1936 , starting date of Heart of Iron IV BUT Europa Universalis finish in 1821 , implying that they are a gap between Europa Universalis IV To Victoria II (1821-1836 )
@@Eldiran1 haha I’m still in EU4 but was going to convert to Vicki 2 then HOI 4... maybe I will skip Victoria. I suppose if I do that, the TikTokers in Stellaris will argue that WW2 was actually WW1 🤪
5:59 - As a German: well done :D Usually people either butcher our language by making it sound English, or they butcher it by needlessly screaming because they think German has to be aggressive 🙈
Agreed, especially the pronunciation of Z is not easy for English native speakers. But @Metatron is not an English speaking native, therefore I am not really surprised that he pronounced it correctly. Even if it took him 30 minutes, as he said 😅
I would just like to point out that it wasn't until Tsar Peter I that Russia became open to accepting any ideas or cultural concepts from other parts of Europe. I wouldn't expect Tsar Peter to care about carrying on an ancient deception by the Holy Roman emperor, the Byzantine emperor, and the Pope, so if this ever existed, wouldn't there be historical references in Russian literature to western Europeans making up an entire 3 centuries? And if such references existed, even horribly flawed ones, do you not think the Soviets would've leapt on this for their propaganda? It doesn't get much better than being able to say "Look, our enemies are so pathetic, they had to make up an entire time period just to make themselves look better." And yet, none of this is the case. Not a single thing I hypothesized actually happened. The Soviets had some hilariously stupid and lazy propaganda, so they would've pushed such a narrative even if it came from the mouth of a drunk homeless guy talking to a dog, and yet they didn't, which means they couldn't find so much as a single scrap of evidence referring to such a theory
there's Soviet mathematician Anatoly Fomenko who says at least 1000 years of history were lost and all historical dates before 16th c. are a fabrication of one man Joseph Scaliger. obviously this goes way overboard, straight from the rulebook of soviet disinformation. I'm partial to Illig's hypothesis though, but how could someone have managed to pull it off, that I don't know. for one the phantom period perfectly coincides with the Tang dynasty of China. if you ever happen to watch a historical Chinese drama, you're 100% guaranteed it's about the golden age of Tang, the time of progress and inventions, yet the archeologists somehow have nothing to show for it
The same argument can be used for the moon landing. The soviets would have torn a fake moon landing to shreds. Who but they would have observed very closely whether Americans had landed on the moon or not?
The way you pronounced Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte really surprised me as a German! You do seem to know how 'sch' and 'ch' and 'nd' like in Kunde is pronounced which is astonishing. I wish I had your talent for languages! Always great content!
Well the "ch" was not 100% clean, but otherwise the pronounciation was almost perfect. He must have learned how to speak German, otherwise this is not possible.
@@markhorton3994 No, as stated you popped into existence on your 19th birthday on 1969. Everything before that was a lie created by Big tech and the Lizard president.
Next conspiracy theory: The Metatron hates pasta. A while ago, he said he would make a video about making pasta. He hasn't, so clearly this is evidence that he never makes pasta and can't bring himself to make a dish he hates, even for the views.
Now, he'll have to make pasta from scratch to convince me. Do a deep dive into semolina flour and its vital impact on the quality of pasta. Would watch 10/10
knights Templar. This group really existed however, there are so many conspiracy theories in myths surround you could do an entire series on them specifically.
@@spyrofrost9158 I think that might be because the real Templars (not Assassin's Creed version) were quite controversial in real life. Yes, the other orders existed. They didn't gain the notoriety of the Templars, however. France didn't execute the members of the other orders.
@@spyrofrost9158 Also, interestingly enough the Church ordered that all lands and wealth of the Templars be turned over to the Hospitaliers. Many of the nobility of Europe & nations such as France fought this, wanting to keep these things for themselves.
Basil II, not Constantine VI, was Roman Emperor in the year 1,000. And the entire Pan-Islamic Empire (Rashidun, Ummayad, and early Abbassid Caliphates) happened during the 297 years of "Phantom Time". If Phantom Time were real, how would the mighty Sassanid Empire (at its height under Khosrau II in 614) have been replaced by the smaller, weaker, _Shia_ Buyids?
Actually there is lack of materiał sources in that period for Islam world too. There is huge time gap between first coins with shahada and building mosque in Jerusalem and the life of the prophet. Oldest exemples of scriptures are even newer. So this theory suprisingly fit. What is more there is a gap in history of early slavic Kingdoms. "Slavs came to Europe in 7 century, there was Samons Kingdom, and bang in 10 century mighty Kingdoms of Poland and Bohemia."
Guys i have a theory that the 21st Century doesn't exist. We have Roman architecture and we follow Christianity. That means we're actually in Rome. If the 21st century was real we'd have flying cars and holograms and advanced technology.
Well flying cars are thechnically possible since ~1960's. But they would be very fuel inefficient and... imagine New York traffic in 3D and every minor car crash resulting in a drop from at least dozens of meters high.
okay i think part of my joke is being missed. Holograms and flying cars are both things happening in 2022, hence why i listed them as things that are not to use as evidence to justify my "theory".
Romanesque architecture means the round arch. It was supplanted by the pointed arch around 1200. However the rounded arch made a comeback during the Renaissance.
I am so fascinated by the ability to construct a conspiracy theory. I mean, you have to invent so much, go through such a thought process and be willing to make fantastic new interpretations of available material. I mean, sci-fi and fantasy novelists should really feel that these conspiracists are trying steal their game.
Having lived with a couple of conspiracy theorists for a quarter of a century, not all conspiracy theories are that complicated. The ones on history are just way more complicated than most people want to even get involved with. This one is ... Yeah. somewhere there is a sci fi/fantasy novelist looking at the outline of this theory and shaking their heads. "No one will suspend disbelief long enough to get into the characters." Crumples up paper and starts over.
All you have to do is make a wild claim, then work backwards to justify it. Example: Big Soap controls the world. People used to make their own soap, but there wasn't a lot of money in it. So a bunch of rich moguls got together and started making industrial soap, removing natural ingredients from the process for the purposes of cheaper chemicals that also work to make the users less fertile and more open to suggestion. Eventually they switched to liquid soap manufacturing for a cheaper product, but it also soaks into the skin easier, making mind control much more effective. Therefore, in order to fight against the influence of Big Soap, you should buy all natural Burly Man Soap, which will make you a free thinker and restore your sexual potency! Took me five minutes to come up with that.
"Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack." Yeah, by the logic of these types of conspiracy theorists, the dinosaurs must have been the first creatures to ever walk on this planet because we don't have many, if any fossils from the Cenozoic to the Precambrian periods.
Looking at the state of the world, and the global politics, I'd hope people of the future refer to our time as the "Intellectual Dark Ages"... Because frankly... It is.
As a Balkan history nerd I’m familiar with a lot of pseudohistories pushing the national agendas of basically every ethnic group in the Balkans. Croats are Illyrians or Goths, not Slavs, Serbs are the proto Indo Europeans, Bosniaks existed as a people not only prior to the conversion to Islam or even the Banate of Bosnia but in the Neolithic and they built magical pyramids, Greeks are Albanians, Albanians are Serbs, Slavic Macedonians are the people of Alexander, etc. One theory I, as a lover of real medieval Serbian history am particularly annoyed by is the easily disproven “autochthonous hypothesis”, claiming Serbs and other Slavs did not migrate to the Balkans but were rather always there and that the Slavs or even all Indo Europeans branched out from there. This is kind of a reaction to Albanian pseudo historical claims about Albanians in Kosovo being remnants of the Dardanians, which they of course, are not. And of course phantom time posits that the late migration period, when the Serbs, Croats, and Bulgars came to the Balkans, did not happen, and is used in all kinds of wacky ways and conveniently, implicating the Byzantines in the conspiracy erases basically all historical records of the Balkans between the fall of Rome and roughly the 1000s when Serbia began to interact with and get written about by the Siculo-Normans and crusaders. There is the Chronicle of the Priest of Dioclea that talks about that era but it’s a much later secondary source. So I’m glad you covered this hot steaming mess
There are few ethnic groups that don't have somebody spouting this sort of nonsensical propaganda. Afrocentrists and Hindu nationalists are probably the worst. Nordic "Aryans" as the progenitors of all culture got discredited after WW2 but seems to be coming back in some circles. Japan's government also taught the same thing - Japanese were the first people and used to be the center of super-advanced world culture - in their ultra-nationalist stage but I doubt many Japanese people today buy any of it.
@@brucetucker4847 I know. I find the Catalans particularly funny. There are reasons I specifically have a problem with this in the Balkans: 1) Given the recent Yugoslav wars, nationalism is at an all time high so a surprising amount of people actually believe these insane theories 2) I like history, my ancestors are from the Balkans, I study a lot of Balkan history, and when looking for information or discussing this with people, I often hit the roadblock of "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE SERBS MIGRATED! WE'VE NEVER MIGRATED ANYWHERE! WE SPAWNED HERE1!" and I get called a western cuck or something. And God forgive I discuss Croatian or Albanian history with anyone. Since I take a fairly academic approach, I end up being called a traitor by some of my own people (Serbs) for not promoting certain more absurd theories on that side and the same from Albanians or Croats for not saying that God personally sculpted them from his own ejaculatory fluids on the exact holy and blessed they live on today before he created amoebas, and that all other humans are descended from their turds.
I have seen this theory before, and it is dumb as hell. It has so many problems Also, "is that the final boss" is 100% the best way to react to a hard word.
Honestly, a phantom time hypothesis or mechanic would be far more interesting in a fictional setting. Perhaps a Warlock warped time to have history play out in a specific manner to summon some God or something. What did that have to do with the video? Got me there.
@IMightBeAz - iirc, it has been used by Terry Pratchett in some of his Discworld books. One that springs to mind is in the book ‘Mort’, Death’s apprentice botches reaping the soul of a Princess/queen, so within her kingdom time progresses as if she hasn’t died, but outside its borders in the rest of the Disc time goes on as if she had died and iirc, when things get fixed both time periods end up existing with the Disc’s history (although, I guess that’s kinda the inverse of the hypothesis come to think of it 🤔).
@@lordofuzkulak8308 "Arrangements have been made". Also "botching" it? He deliberately didn't do it. The disc also has the time monks who work to patch such stuff up. And no, it's not that both periods exist. Death uses his powers to keep it that Princess Keli rules.
The Elder Scrolls games use this all the time. One of the Tamrielic emperors, Tiber Septim, changed his homeland Cyrodiil's climate so that it not only turned from jungle into lush garden, but changed natural history that it had _always been so,_ changing the human history of the area in the process. Kinda meta thing, as this in-game lore probably reflects game studio Bethesda's own change of heart in the process of making ES 4: Oblivion, which takes place in Cyrodiil: they originally visioned it to be a jungle province, but changed it in the process towards more classical Western Europe -like setting. Bethesda is also notorious from changing their lore of the world of Tamriel arbitrarily to suit whatever newest game/DLC requires. Tamriel, as it stands, is a place & time of perpetual change.
Well my histroy Teacher was really fan of this theory, 26 Years ago ... damn I am old :D, we did a lot of projects around this and worked out if it could have been done or not and we found quite the same points. And great job on the "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte." :)
Just came across this one on Twitter, yet again, from an Afrocentrist, taught this by his university he claimed but who knows if that is true; that Greeks weren't literate until they were taught how to read and write by Egyptians. When Alexander the Great got there. I've heard numerous ridiculous variations on this, but essentially it is, Africans either taught Europeans how to read and write, OR taught them how to read and write AGAIN after they had forgotten during the "Dark Ages" (not the Greek Dark Ages).
next time that comes up just point out that at the time of 'first contact' between Greece and egypt, Egyptian was a logogram and greek is a proper alphabet... basically two fundamentally different approaches to a written language. How the greeks learned something that would be essentially alien to the egyptians from the egyptians would be a fascinating but of mental gymnastics
@@petriew2018 To the extent they base this on anything remotely resembling evidence, it's that the classical Greek alphabet was based on Phoenician letters that ultimately descended from people adapting Egyptian logograms to represent sounds in their own language (the proto-Sinaitic script). But that was a good thousand years before the Greek alphabet developed, and, again, that was brought to Greece by Phoenicians, not Egyptians. And the Greek alphabet existed in some form for a good 4-500 years before Alexander the Great. It also wasn't the first script used to write Greek, that was the script we now know as Linear B, which was probably descended from Cretan hieroglyphs that were, as far as we can tell, completely unrelated to Egyptian hieroglyphs. And while the Egyptians definitely invented their own hieroglyphs, it is quite likely that they didn't independently invent the idea of writing, they got the idea from the Sumerians. Of course the Afrocentrists also insist that the Sumerians, like basically everyone else on the planet, were actually black Africans before they got "replaced" by "Arabs". And any evidence for anything contradicting their claims is all fake news made up by racists. Afrocentrists are very silly people.
I've been having a conversation with a guy who thinks that the pyramids were basically massive solar power generators to power an advanced civilization. When I asked him how blocks of limestone and granite could supposedly produce solar power he was less than enthusiastic.
Reminds me of the products that are basically aluminum pyramids frames. The manufacturers has numerous claims that it make you smart , sharpen blades and other stuffs. I think one iteration is "barong triangle" endorsed by a weatherman of all people.
I mean, anything on earth with mass absorbs solar radiation and converts it to thermal "power" in the sense that it holds a temperature above that of the void of space, so in a purely technical sense he is correct... but obviously anything beyond basic thermodynamics concepts is hogwash.
Ooof no offense to the sponsor but "personal carbonfootprint" while easily digestible by an individual is a miniscule insignificant part of global pollution because it inherently takes into account that any use of services provided to the individual is set in stone and the provider can do no wrong and is tied to current practices, which is insanity. Also the whole concept was a fabrication to divert responsability away from BP, and there's also evidence that simple measures taken by these giants could easily have turned the tide in our favor AND KEEP PROFITS, including global goverments stopping subsidies and incentivizing renewables, with an argument to be made for temporary nuclear power as well...
@Metatron as an german i want to say your quote Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte was on point i am allways impressed how good your language skills are.
When I first heard about this, I thought the person telling me about it was just doing a poor job of trying to explain the term "dark ages" being a misnomer. It took a while to actually realize how far he was going into crazy.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Video signals from the Moon are pretty conclusive. And yes, the old joke about faking it on Earth with 60's video tech being more expensive than doing it for real is true. The Soviets would have been looking for literally any hint of fakery. EDIT. Also, they'd have been able to receive and decode bio telemetry for the astronauts, and would have detected uplinked signals if they had existed.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 no, they wouldn't, which is why they could have easily screamed 'prove it! it's impossible'... and had no reason not to at the time. They knew it was possible and thus had no reason to doubt it based on the actual evidence, which is why they, and really all intelligent people, dismiss that conspiracy theory as the nonsense it frankly is.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Think about all of the variables prerecorded content would have to account for. Slight orbital velocity changes would drastically alter when the craft went behind and came out from behind the Moon, for instance. That's just one detail theorists never consider. To make the conspiracy theory work would require far more materials, planning and sheer luck than went into the actual landings.
Great video. The part about the astronomical evidence reminded me, an old sailor, of how if anyone learns how to use a sextant and chronometer, they know absolutely that the "flat earth" theory is WRONG.
Did... Did we just find a language that Metatron isn't fluent in? Those exist? That's clearly the most absurd conspiracy theory I've ever heard, and it's easily debunked.
Im sure he could learn proper German pronunciation too, as he is very much into proper language pronunciation. But then again there are so many languages that he would never learn them all.
There's a book called Holy Blood Holy Grail, published in 1982, and it's about Mary Magdaline being the Holy Grail. Supposedly, she and Jesus Christ had a son and their son was the progenitor of the Merovingian Dynasty of France. The book was used as a source for a book and movie. It was based on a document in the French National Library wich has been discredited as a forgery.
I ran into a guy that claimed all time before the 1700 had been fabricated because there were no items or letters with dates written on them before that. I said that didn't make sense and wasn't true, proceeding to show him many pictures and documentation of items from museums. He immediately switched his claim without acknowledgement and just claimed all those were forged.
@@julietfischer5056 You seem to have missed the point. He claimed one thing, then when his claim was shown obviously false, he dropped it and jumped to trying to explain why the opposite of his original claim was true.
The moment i read the title i knew it was about Illig, i read the book around 20 years ago. Illig is to history what Erich von Däniken is to Aliens. He looks at something, draws a crazy conclusion and then creates the arguments to "prove" his opinion.
Im not disputing that climate change exists, but is it not true that with recent glacial melt in a certain region in the alps there were previously undiscovered ancient trade routes made visible? This suggests that during the ancient period the area was free enough of ice for a trade route to be established despite there being a relatively low carbon footprint by todays standards. Is there not millions of dollars to be made by accepting carbon caused climated change into government policy?
If you're looking at one specific area there are a lot of variables that can cause local variations. A generally cooler climate could also be a locally drier one that caused less snow to fall leading to less glaciation in one area.
The main reason for the existence of theories like this is common shortsightedness. Yes, you can find regions with little to no new constructions in a given time span, however if you step over borders you suddenly find the evidence you could not (or did not want to) see.
No, the reason for the existence of such theories is lack of proper education these days. And by "proper education" I don't mean just spewing facts upon people without any explanation - I mean presenting the sources of our knowledge and actual scientific evidence when we teach people about some subject, teaching critical thinking, questioning etc. instead of just dumb repetition and regurgitation of whatever the teacher says.
@@bonbonpony What do you mean by "these days"? The education you crave did not exist in your parents, grandparents or great-grandparents time. And it's safe for me to claim that without knowing your age
Metatron: "There is no phantom time to be added." The Holy Roman Emperor Otto III, Pope Sylvester II, and possibly the Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII: "got'em boys! " *high fives*
The Dark Ages that I learned about at school never existed. They are now called the Early Middle Ages. But what did they call the middle ages in the middle ages? They couldn't have been called the middle ages. So perhaps they really didn't exist.
We called it the Middle Ages in school and they were from 500-1500. Later I learned about a division between Early (500-1000) and Late (1000-1500) Middle Ages. During the Middle Ages, people probably just called it "the present" or "xth century" We don't have a name of our current time either, that is up to historians of a later era to do.
The gap of 3 "missing" days to explain the 300 years gap is simple to explain : the corrected Gregorian calendar didn't target what it was at year zero, but how it was during the Council of Nicea in 325. So the calendar was off by 12 days since the 4th century, as there should be, and not by 15 days.
@@nanaya7e433 True, but that doesn't cause any measurable discrepancy. You get the same corrections (15 vs 10 - actually - missing days) if you target year 1 AD vs 325 AD.
Metatron, are those in background miniatures for Kings of War (Basilea)? If so, that's so cool, put some photos of those little dudes once painted please
Ever heard of the Tartaria and Mud Flood theory? Basically It says the tatars were intentionally erased from history fairly recently and that they had great technological deeds for his time. A video about It would be nice
I would like if you checked the "mud flood" theory and "Tartaria", since it can be helpful to talk about actual lost empires and buried archeological sites
So we do not have evidence of two brothers: Cyril and Methodius, coming up with a writing system for the Slavs in the 860s later reworked into the Cyrillic script used to this day ?
I remember seeing a conspiracy theory where they say theres evidence an ancient Hindu sage invented airplanes 7000 years ago and could move in any direction and tragel from planet to planet. When I saw that I was like, oh Lord! Add that to the list of dumb stuff thats out there on the internet
Hindu mythology is a motherlode for 'Ancient Astronaut' and 'Primordial Civilization' types. It has a cosmic sweep missing from European and Abrahamic religions and mythologies, incredible vehicles and weapons used in wars that make the Olympians v. Titans look like a playground fight, and hasn't been unduly influenced by outsiders.
How would backdating even work? What dates would be left, and thus suddenly lie 300years in the past and what dates jump forward accordingly? I guess banking didn't really exist as today but surely there would be lots of cases where there are different interests on what records are adjusted to the new age and what left to the old. And what did the Arab world think of this?
Theories like this are stunningly Eurocentric, typically because they are created out of ignorance. Being Eurocentric flows naturally out of a broader ignorance.
I think wren would do better job if they dropped this carbon footprint coercion tactics and simply offered environmental projects to support. "Repent for sin of your mere existence!" type of rhetoric isn't going to work well outside of very specific group of people. Anyway, great video as usual. Keep up the good work.
Not to defend the theory, as it's not one I've looked into myself, but I've found that Wikipedia tends to frame things like this in the most ridiculous way possible, and in the worst cases can completely misrepresent the arguments being made.
The ex-husband of my stepmother likes history and he once presented me with this claim saying that he found it convincing. I was still a teenager back then, but I found this claim strongly lacking. The biggest reason for it is that you simply can‘t make up time because it would have been missing from carbon dating, from calendars, astronomical dating and other scientific dating techniques. If he had claimed that this time period happened differently as written history, that would be much more realistic, but claiming an entire time period missing just creates simple mathematical problems
Ok but we’re still going with the Conspiracy Theory that Pope Sylvester II was a medieval wizard that had a mechanical bronze head that could answer questions like some sort of demonic magic eight ball, right? Yeah, there’s some weird stories around him, which I don’t take seriously.
I tend to agree with Einstein when he ( allegedly.. ;-) ) said that 2 things were infinite.. the universe and human stupidity, and he wasn't even sure about the universe.
I mean, to be fair, Europe and China didn't really interact that much. You don't need China to falsify records. You just need the three kingdoms period to be about the time of augustus.
The Julian Calendar established (45 BC *) 1 extra day for every 4 years (average 365.25). The Gregorian Reformation (1582 AD) changed that the years of the end of the century did NOT add up to the Extra day (current average 365.2422 days). The 0.0078 days of difference ACCUMULATE 1 day every 128.2 years. If the Ref. Calend. Gregorian was made in 1582, leaving 12.33 days of displacement of the vernal equinox (spring). If we count from Julius Caesar 44 BC, there are 1582 + 45 = 1627 years. The shift is 12.69 days. Pope Gregory only added 10 days (NOT 13 as he should). Was the reform done in 1282 instead of 1582 ??? Some say Church only counted from the Council of Nicea (325 AD), 1582-325 = 1257 years. Unfortunately, there is no written source that claims that; just some Constantine's letters to non-attendants promoting Christians to be different from the Jewish Passover tradition. Heribert Ilig and later Hans Ulrich Niemitz calculate that there is a 297-year shift in the calendar. (Inter Gravissimas) ============================================================= Anatolius of Ladiocea (283 AD) describes in 'Paschal Canon' that the equinox was on March 19. If we know that in 1582 the equinox was established on March 21 (astronomically March 11, without the 10 days added), there is a shift of 19-11 = 8 days. Those 8 days ACCUMULATE 1025 years since Anatolius lived, then 1025 + 283 = 1308 must have been the year of the Gregorian Reformation. Some suggest that 'Paschal Canon' was used at the Council of Nicea (325), then 1025 + 325 = 1350. The difference between the official date of the Gregorian Reformation 1582 and 1350 is 232 years, which the Church invented. ============================================================== In 1970 Robert Newton, NASA astronomer, studied all the eclipses recorded in historical documents, and discovered that before 1000 AD the dates were offset by about 3 centuries. He writes scientific papers on a DECELERATION of the Earth's rotation and the presence of NON-GRAVITATIONAL FORCES. Other astronomers like Stephenson and Morrison have similar studies. In 1980, A. Fomenko and his team of astronomers and mathematicians reviewed R. Newton's works, and found that N. Morozov had already done the same with elcipses manually in the 19th century. They conclude that there is a shift of 3 centuries. ============================================================= In 2016, dating scientists, Larsson and Ossowski, tried to create a CONTINUOUS chronology using tree rings (Dendrochronology) in Europe for the last 2,500 years. They conclude that it is impossible to create a bridge between various ring blocks dated in various places and that there is a 232-year offset (invented) in the Christian Era.
Regarding the criticism about CHINESE AND ARAB sources, you only have to consult Wikipedia to see that Rome's relations with China WERE NOT DIRECT, but rather through intermediate border towns. SUPPOSED ENVIES OF MARCUS AURELIUS AND ANTONINUS PIUS (2nd and 3rd centuries AD), THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTS that corroborate it; and then THERE IS A LONG GAP (3 CENTURIES!!) without references until the Byzantine era (7th century). The first Arabic sources on AL-ANDALUS date back to the 10th century, and are Christian "translations." Arabic references range from the 10th to the 15th century. The earliest surviving sources are from the 15th century (Al-Maqqari). If anyone wants Google Scholar references I can provide them. Regarding astronomical events (comets, eclipses...) I have already mentioned their inaccuracy (Fomenko, R. Newton) but better read Alexander Demandt who prepared a study with 250 historically recorded eclipses, reaching the conclusion that more than 200 were incorrect or imprecise. Even those of Ptolemy have been shown to be fraudulent. Astronomer Richard Stephenson points out that many of his supposed observations were calculated data. “Most writings are literary poems” and others were done to “exaggerate the importance of a battle” or “emphasize the birth, accession, or death of a king” [e.g. battle Gaugamela, Alexander the Great 331 BC]. I hope you have learned something interesting Aldo, and without further ado I invite you to respond and exchange SOURCES AND PAPERS. Always scientific, of course¡
I was always under the impression the theory was not that the Middle Ages didn’t exist, but the dates of certain things did not get accurately recorded and so there were over laps of things. I thought this was interesting not really knowing anything about the time period. This theory sounds outrageously out there to have pulled off, and have it still going.
"calculate your own social score and then give away money to save the planet" is not a sponsor message I was expecting from Metratron, who is otherwise a down-to-earth creator anchored in areas of expertise that take ages to analize and even so, have experts that disagree with each-other.
I'm kind of curious if he can see the parallel between carbon offsets and papal indulgences. Now if Wren had an option to support new nuclear power generation around the world, that would actually be cool and might actually do something.
Paused around the 7 minute mark. I learned in school that in the middle ages people themselves DID call that period the middle ages because they had the feeling that they were in the middle of it all in that period. Meaning that they thought that the time between the creation and their own life would be just as long as the time between them and the end of times. I always thought that was a bit far-fetched...
Metatron, shouldn’t you be convinced by the strength of the evidence for climate change instead of whether or not there is a scientific consensus (not saying there isn’t)? Scientists, researchers, university staff, etc. are humans who are not immune to peer pressure, fear of social ostracization and losing their careers/tenures, and desire to gain funding.
One scientist or a small group of scientists could be reasonably doubted, if in good scientific faith. Metatron is not a climate researcher, so isn't equipped to go through all the evidence himself (neither am I). It's very hard to correctly assess the "strength of the evidence for climate change" as a layperson. In this case, it's best practice to trust the scientific consensus of thousands of scientists all around the world. In this same sense, I trust the scientific consensus around the classification of the domestic cat in the family of Felidae, because most taxonomists agree on this and I am not an expert in this field.
Well, there's two sides to this: On one hand, you could argue that appeal to authority alone is not a good argument. On the other hand however, there is simply the fact that science is complicated and even if you look up the evidence, you might draw entirely wrong conclusions from it because you are not trained in evaluating that kind of data and simply misinterpret what it is actually representing. It should also be noted that when there is sufficiently good evidence to actually challenge a current theory, you bet that scientists are going to go after it. I don't want to paint researchers as glory seekers, but being able to disprove a major mainstream theory is still somewhat of a whet dream for them. As long as a study is conducted in an orderly manner and isn't very obviously a piece of biased propaganda, you also have not much to fear except for people disagreeing with you. But scientists disagree on things all the time. Like, even in terms of climate change: Sure, there is consense at large that it exists and is man-made (at least among the researchers not working for conservative think tanks whilst being sponsored by Shell and BP), but there's still plenty of arguing about the more specific details and, more importantly, on how it should be addressed. Peer review is generally an important process and it won't throw out works over disagreements in terms of conclusion, but if there are glaring issues with a work, then those need to be addressed. Bad information by bad actors can cause an incredibly amount of damage, as the example of the Wakefield study (the one that claimed that the MMR vaccine causes autism, which turned out to be not only bad science but an outright fraud and that inspired the movement behind anti-vaxxers as we know them today) has shown too well.
The thing is, consesus is based on empyrical evidence, but is only useful for those who aren't experts on the subject (one person can't know everything, that's why people generally trust their doctor), scienists care only about the evidence.
@@darthplagueis13 “when there is sufficiently good evidence to challenge a theory, you bet that scientists are going to go after it.” This is true, except when the good evidence challenges, not a non-parochial hypothesis/theory, but rather when it challenges “the science” (a “too big to fail” dogmatic hypothesis/theory backed by tons of funding, with a guild-like credentialist structure built around it).
Hey, there are people who write and read books about alternate history right? I like to think of these conspiracies in a similar manner. I know there are people who fully believe in them which is silly but whats wrong in developing these theories in the 1st place? They are just insanely interesting to think about!!!
You answeared yourself. What is wrong in developing them? People belive in them. Just like not so long ago people belived %G transfer coronavirus and destroy comunication towers
european countrys were not that precisely defined in the middelages especialy the early to high middleages Innocenz III basicly managed all of western europes politics, Urban II. managed to organize a multinational crusade against the interests for the ruling monarchs at the time, etc.
so, now you know why the crusades really happened.. it was because those pesky middle-easterners didn't want to turn their clocks back 300 years. Now i think of it.. did or does the Middle-East actually exsists ? now i've confused myself.. lolzz
The reason for the the 300 year gap is that we lost 660 years of chronology in world history , but the Diocletian era and the Era of the Martyrs were mistakenly considered identical, so Medieval Europe lost 300 or so years. Thus relative to the rest of world, Europe seemed 300 years into the future
Ave, Metatron; I salute your attempts at German pronunciation (you're doing fine; keep practicing, amigo mio), and once again, we're in agreement on the fact that the 'Middle Ages' did indeed exist 😁. For me, two questions arise: First, where did the idea of 'missing time' come from in the first place? Second, what modern agenda would it advance?
Just for fun check out " History: Chronology 1" by Professor Anatoly Fomenko. This book goes down so many rabbit holes it'll spin your head but is incredibly interesting. He doesn't invoke any conspiracy but lays it down to human error. Just the statistical analysis section on frequency of references to historical events is amazing. Even if you dismiss the premises it's still a great read.
your pronunciation of "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menscheits- und Naturgeschichte" wasn't actually that bad... very good in fact compared to other TH-camrs trying to pronounce German words. sure it's not perfect but compared to others I've heard it's pretty good
As a German I have to clap my hands how well you pronounced the words immediately. I shouldn't be so amazed since you studied languages, still I am so happy hearing well pronounciation. Even Germans lack this ability sometimes it seems to me. So, 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Hello, friend. There are really so many conspiracy theories... Where to start and where to end. One theory sayd that the Chinese kings and royal family members of the Xia dynasty (I mean the first dynasty of China) are in fact of European type- of course, there are no proof of this. And another says that the modern Greeks, like me, have no biological or cultural connection to the ancient Greeks, who disappeared somewhere into the Roman era- again false, there is plethora of evidence about the continuation of the Greek culture into the Christian era and through the Byzantine period and the Turkish occupation up into modern times, also the biology of the Greeks has not changed in significant ways from old times to modern times in ways significantly different than in any other part of the world. This last theory is the famous theory of Ferdinand Falmereier and now it is not accepted as a scientific theory (as the previous one for the Chinese royal families of the ancient era), however I have heard about it many times even here in Greece. Well, I would like to hear your opinion about these two theories, if you find time. Have a nice time.
"And another says that the modern X, have no biological or cultural connection to the ancient X, who disappeared somewhere into the Y era" There is also version of this, but with Egypt.
Anciet greeks were blode and blue eyed, moder greeks are more similar to jews than anyone else really, also we litterally found blond/read head mummies in china
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New rule, if this is a discussion that actually has to be made, then once a human reaches 29 years old they can no longer age for 30 years, then they are 50 the next year.
edit: I meant 60.
consensus is not an argument, science is a system of absolute hierarchy and not of democracy. a consensus is just a glimps ona situation but by no means any final word on anything in science. if so, we could hardly make any scientific discoveries bc discoveries would be againt consensus.
The Metatron truly has spread his wings. The people and organisations you are collaborating with truly have a difference on peoples lives, so be proud Raff!
btw tries are VERY bad carbon stores, actualy trees store barely any carbon if any, except in hyperboreal regions with permafrost. why? bc when they die they decay or the forrest burns down periodically ( some tree seeds even relie on wildfires to sprout etc, and trees liky eucalyptos purposefully concentrate easily flamable oils within their bark and tissues) in reality most carbon diaxide is absorbed by Algue, phyto plancton in the seas, then on land the biggest aborber are GRASSLANDS where fast growing grass accumulates every season and builts up a big sediment of not completely decayed grass under it that is taken out of the carbon Cycle. next come Swamps, where the water closes of the plant matter from oxygon and thus prohibits complete decay and reentry of co2 into the cycle, last are hyperborean forrests.
that is basic ecology one learn in 3rd semester Biology, planting trees in dry regions, or the rainforrest or even central europe, does not help binding much co2 if any, and in cas eof the rainforrest may even add co2 overall , bc plant matter decays extremely fast in those envirements
to justifie this plump and frankly idiotic actionism with "muh science" is an insult to the idea of science. planting a tree is pure feelgoodery and helps nothing. if you want to absorbe as much co2 as possible from atmosphere go and dump some containerships worth of fertilizer into the ocean, so it causes an algue bloom, which then does all at once causing Oxygen deficit bc of its mass and sinks all together to the bottom of the seamwhere it joins the sediment.
Its not about if the Clima Change exist or not , its about if its Human made or not .
And the clima science is more the shame of science !
What is science , a work in progress , or a total authority ?
I think these people mostly fall into three categories Trolls out to get attention, confidence tricksters out to get money, or the mentally delusional. I'll allow a tiny number of alternate thinkers too, but they're very rare indeed.
Aren't alternate thinkers not mentally delusional as well?
Very well said sir knight! Always great to have you in the comment section, Jason, always an honour!
@@Soapy-chan_old Absolutely not. Most of the greatest thinkers in history were "alternative thinkers". The problem is most people slapped with that label today are not arguing on facts just made up fantasies.
I love being open minded, and I don't like dismissing theories just because they're "incredible", but as Carl Sagan put it "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". In this case, the evidence is extremely lacking.
In my own humble opinion, I find this indicative of a weakness within the academic system.
It's very appealing for academics to "stand out" and "make a name" for themselves. And this is very hard to do if all you do is repeat findings that your predecessors have discovered before you.
Therefore, a few academics will tread a dark path of trying to be controversial for the sake of controversy, in order to get "noticed".
Academic history is rife with these people. And sadly, not all of them ended up being discredited for it.
The funniest thing about this theory is the idea that the Holy Roman Emperor, the Eastern Roman Emperor and the Pope could agree on anything let alone some wacky conspiracy to create some Phantom Time.
they did it to move the year of founding of islam to the year 666
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@@JL-tm3rcIslam was founded in 610 CE.
@@argkitsune Emigration became the only hope for Muhammad and his followers' survival. In 622, they headed to Medina, another oasis town, where they were promised freedom to practice their religion. The move from Mecca to Medina is known as the hijra-the flight-and marks year 1 of the Islamic, or hijri, calendar.
we arrive at 666 because there is a 44 year adjustment to be made due to some erroneous conversionin the past as explained in the video of "the forgotten planet" i previously posted.
this is the reason for the parallels of atilla and alaric where all events in their life are exactly 44 years apart because they are the same person and two writer using two different calendar reference.
watch the video i cannot explain it in detail here. , the islam part is explained in the latter part of the video
You didn't butcher that german - you made it actually really good! I am impressed!
And yes - Illig is quite "notorious" amongst german-speaking history nerds for his bullshit.
Same category as Erich von Däniken.
@@p.s.shnabel3409 Yeah - he'd wish. Erich von Däniken is very widely known, while Illig is more known by people who are very much into history. He was even invited to an discussion in my hometown about his "hypothesis" for a giggle. Not the same with Däniken.
He has more in common with that "Slav Denier"-Group, who say Slavs never existed, and their language is byzantine forced onto a gothic population. Although the latter are basically Nazis, while Illig and Däniken are not.
That must be restricted to the nerds, then, because I live in Germany and went to school in the 90‘s and never heard of this bullshit, ….
@@lynnm6413 Because they do not teach it in School, but if you read here and there for your own about History, you will encounter this Theory, gladly mentioned as BS normally.
@@lynnm6413 It is known among history buffs and people who had some profession in the historical field. I worked for 2 years in a museum and get to know some who knew Illigs theories and was confronted once with someone who actually embraced it. They all were history buffs and not so much "normally interested".
The only thing that I find fascinating about these theories is how eurocentric their understanding of history is. Like, do I have to believe almost 300 years never happened... only for EUROPE? For these conspiracy-theorists, civilization began with the Romans and maaaaayyybe classical Greece. Everything else was chaos and void, and turtles moving a plate full of oceans and land.
Well the Americas, Australia, etc were pretty undisturbed by European influences during that time, they could have developed independent of Europeans distorting history. So they "only" forgot about Asia and Africa^^
Because English speaking commity is primarily Eurocentric, if you shift the language away from any europe or us based language and you will see a different picture of how people see history and all their crazy theories about it.
Most of them are americans who are poorly teached about worldwide history, think that something 200 years old is very old (the wall in front of my house has 800 years, way older than the entire history of their country) and they can't tell you the difference between the Renaissance and ancient Babylon.
I strongly disagree! It was Elephants moving a plate full of oceans and land! ;)
@@--Sama- they wouldn't even know what Babylon is let alone tell the difference, lol.
"The Middle ages didn't exist" the lunacy in that statement can drive even the most sane men mad.
I know we have castles in the UK with written history as well as legal documentation lineage and books detailing what was bought and how much it was yet its all a myth
"Well of course the middle ages didnt exist. Did you ever met someone from then?"
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@@soythelubu5389 yes my dad, Lol!
The earth is flat.
This reminds me in a turnabout way of the first chapter in a novel in Victorian England. A few people believe the house they live in is haunted. A special investigator takes the job of stopping the haunting. Through research they discover that there was a church on the land the house stands and the catacombs still exist. They also discover that there was a loving couple that was supposed to be buried together. He died elsewhere and was buried there. So they spin a tale of the woman haunting the house because she was not reunited in the grave. The bodies from the catacomb get taken out and buried in a regular cemetery and the wife's body gets buried beside her husband.
Of course the people imagined the haunting. A new house with its own noises, a different place, also with different noises and the strange surroundings. But now they can believe it has been taken care of and they can sleep well again.
The important part is a question from a new acquittance of the employer, what would she had done if there had been no forgotten grave and a loving couple? The answer:
"We would have found something else. This is England, something awful has happened everywhere."
And that goes for a lot of central Europe. So much stuff has happened (not all awful) everywhere that it would be difficult to hide a year. Three centuries? Impossible.
my dog, bitch to puppy is 600 years older than Christ
Exept it was real, do you really think normal people just immagine things for absolutely no reason? It makes no sense
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Yes, people do sometimes imagine things for absolutely no reason.
Though often they they lie or spout nonsense for reasons of their own.
@@Dreamfox-df6bg actually that doesn't happened very often, people are really not THAT stupid, expetially that many people (99.99% of all people that ever existed believied in ghosts, that's preatty specfic thing to immagine)
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 At least twice in my lifetime many thought the world was going to end. Some people remember events wrong they lived through themselves just 20 or 30 years later and don't get me started on the many conspiracy theories.
People believe what they want to believe.
That includes myself. Despite all the evidence to the contrary I still believe a better world is possible.
At 35 years old, I'm living the middle ages as we speak; it is fascinating, if not brutal!
The Modern Era is actually still hundreds of years away. We'll know when we get there.
Haha that's funny.
Bahahahaha. I hear ya!
@@johnsmithe4656 What does "modern" mean?
An actual conversation with an American I (Polish) had:
- I can't wait to visit Europe! I've never been anywhere outside of the US!
- Oh man, there is so much to see for you then! You've must've never seen a real castle!
- ... Wait. So castles... really exist?
- Um. Yes.
- I mean I know they used to exist but like... in the past. But now?!
I don't even want to know what schools over there look like.
That's what one gets when their els, gees, bees and tees are more important than their ABCs :q
In some US places the schools look like penitentiaries, from the point-of-view of their human inhabitants.
This actually doesn't surprise me at all, a lot of Americans can't even name the continents on earth and don't even know on which one they live.
@@GholaTleilaxuWe used to build schools that looked like cathedrals. Now schools look like prisons.
I suppose this theory works if we are living in a simulated reality... I was playing Crusader Kings 2 and in the year 825 AD I converted my save game to Europa Universalis 4 which started in 1444. By the time I convert this play through all the way to Hearts of Iron, those poor earthlings will have no idea that 619 years of history never actually happened! Jokes on them lol
CK2? Personally, I still played that game.
did you pass by victoria II to go to HOI ? (i supposed you used HOI IV ) , if so , i think victoria II start during 1836 to 1936 , starting date of Heart of Iron IV BUT Europa Universalis finish in 1821 , implying that they are a gap between Europa Universalis IV To Victoria II (1821-1836 )
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Speaking of Victoria 2, I’m planning to buy that game in the future but the complete edition.
@@Eldiran1 haha I’m still in EU4 but was going to convert to Vicki 2 then HOI 4... maybe I will skip Victoria. I suppose if I do that, the TikTokers in Stellaris will argue that WW2 was actually WW1 🤪
@@drathicusrex7244 In reality, I would gladly argue that WW1 was in fact WW4. Napoleonic Wars being WW3, for example.
5:59 - As a German: well done :D
Usually people either butcher our language by making it sound English, or they butcher it by needlessly screaming because they think German has to be aggressive 🙈
Agreed, especially the pronunciation of Z is not easy for English native speakers. But @Metatron is not an English speaking native, therefore I am not really surprised that he pronounced it correctly. Even if it took him 30 minutes, as he said 😅
I would just like to point out that it wasn't until Tsar Peter I that Russia became open to accepting any ideas or cultural concepts from other parts of Europe. I wouldn't expect Tsar Peter to care about carrying on an ancient deception by the Holy Roman emperor, the Byzantine emperor, and the Pope, so if this ever existed, wouldn't there be historical references in Russian literature to western Europeans making up an entire 3 centuries? And if such references existed, even horribly flawed ones, do you not think the Soviets would've leapt on this for their propaganda? It doesn't get much better than being able to say "Look, our enemies are so pathetic, they had to make up an entire time period just to make themselves look better." And yet, none of this is the case. Not a single thing I hypothesized actually happened. The Soviets had some hilariously stupid and lazy propaganda, so they would've pushed such a narrative even if it came from the mouth of a drunk homeless guy talking to a dog, and yet they didn't, which means they couldn't find so much as a single scrap of evidence referring to such a theory
there's Soviet mathematician Anatoly Fomenko who says at least 1000 years of history were lost and all historical dates before 16th c. are a fabrication of one man Joseph Scaliger. obviously this goes way overboard, straight from the rulebook of soviet disinformation. I'm partial to Illig's hypothesis though, but how could someone have managed to pull it off, that I don't know. for one the phantom period perfectly coincides with the Tang dynasty of China. if you ever happen to watch a historical Chinese drama, you're 100% guaranteed it's about the golden age of Tang, the time of progress and inventions, yet the archeologists somehow have nothing to show for it
The same argument can be used for the moon landing. The soviets would have torn a fake moon landing to shreds. Who but they would have observed very closely whether Americans had landed on the moon or not?
@@kledynk6591 I'm not sure if I understood correctly. Did you just write that there is no archaeological evidence from Tang dynasty era? 😀
@@Palarci yup
@@kledynk6591 now that is...bold.
The way you pronounced Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte really surprised me as a German! You do seem to know how 'sch' and 'ch' and 'nd' like in Kunde is pronounced which is astonishing. I wish I had your talent for languages! Always great content!
Well, he has some master or doctored or smt in linguistics I guess
Well the "ch" was not 100% clean, but otherwise the pronounciation was almost perfect. He must have learned how to speak German, otherwise this is not possible.
How can this be so when the Holy Roman Empire, Eastern Roman Empire and Papacy didn't exist? Clearly human civilization came into existence in 1969.
There is no human civilization, you are all just illusions to trick me into believing reality exists.
I was born in 1952. So I just popped into existence on my my 17th birthday in 1967?
@@markhorton3994 Yeah pretty much. Open your eyes - the media has lied to you all your life!
@@markhorton3994 No, as stated you popped into existence on your 19th birthday on 1969. Everything before that was a lie created by Big tech and the Lizard president.
@@MrHazz111 I see you can't do simple arithmetic either. 15th.
Next conspiracy theory: The Metatron hates pasta. A while ago, he said he would make a video about making pasta. He hasn't, so clearly this is evidence that he never makes pasta and can't bring himself to make a dish he hates, even for the views.
Now, he'll have to make pasta from scratch to convince me. Do a deep dive into semolina flour and its vital impact on the quality of pasta.
Would watch 10/10
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Metatron collab with Alex (French Cooking Guy) to craft a historically accurate pasta?
@@NothingXemnas and then season the pasta with garum.
@@NothingXemnas don't forget The Pasta Queen ft. Lionsfield
@@NothingXemnas this is what we need
knights Templar. This group really existed however, there are so many conspiracy theories in myths surround you could do an entire series on them specifically.
They did it's called Assassin's Creed
And people only ever talk about the Templars as though there weren't other important orders like the Tectonic and Hospitallers
@@spyrofrost9158 My favorite is the knights of Lazarus. Literal Lepar knights.
@@spyrofrost9158 I think that might be because the real Templars (not Assassin's Creed version) were quite controversial in real life. Yes, the other orders existed. They didn't gain the notoriety of the Templars, however. France didn't execute the members of the other orders.
@@spyrofrost9158 Also, interestingly enough the Church ordered that all lands and wealth of the Templars be turned over to the Hospitaliers. Many of the nobility of Europe & nations such as France fought this, wanting to keep these things for themselves.
Basil II, not Constantine VI, was Roman Emperor in the year 1,000.
And the entire Pan-Islamic Empire (Rashidun, Ummayad, and early Abbassid Caliphates) happened during the 297 years of "Phantom Time". If Phantom Time were real, how would the mighty Sassanid Empire (at its height under Khosrau II in 614) have been replaced by the smaller, weaker, _Shia_ Buyids?
Actually there is lack of materiał sources in that period for Islam world too. There is huge time gap between first coins with shahada and building mosque in Jerusalem and the life of the prophet. Oldest exemples of scriptures are even newer. So this theory suprisingly fit. What is more there is a gap in history of early slavic Kingdoms. "Slavs came to Europe in 7 century, there was Samons Kingdom, and bang in 10 century mighty Kingdoms of Poland and Bohemia."
Guys i have a theory that the 21st Century doesn't exist. We have Roman architecture and we follow Christianity. That means we're actually in Rome. If the 21st century was real we'd have flying cars and holograms and advanced technology.
Well flying cars are thechnically possible since ~1960's. But they would be very fuel inefficient and... imagine New York traffic in 3D and every minor car crash resulting in a drop from at least dozens of meters high.
Actually first flying car already landed. Somewhere in Czech if i recall. UNLESS IT WAS FAKE! D:
okay i think part of my joke is being missed. Holograms and flying cars are both things happening in 2022, hence why i listed them as things that are not to use as evidence to justify my "theory".
Or did the 20th century never end and we are currently living in the year 19122!
No to mention skinjobs, I mean replicants.
Love these videos! I appreciate the way you pick apart these "theories" piece by piece. The Metatron has truly spread his wings
Thank you!
Romanesque architecture means the round arch. It was supplanted by the pointed arch around 1200. However the rounded arch made a comeback during the Renaissance.
Yes, I think Metatron is confusing Romanesque with Classical. Classical art is from the Roman era, but Romanesque is the style from 1000-1200.
@@fransbuijs808 Earlier than that it is a continuation of Byzantine architecture, just look at Ravenna.
@@fredo1070 *Roman*
@@alexmag342 that's why it's called Roqmanesque architecture
@@alexmag342 Byzantine.
"Illig was born" "are we sure about that"
most effortless joke ever, this guy was asking for that one
I am so fascinated by the ability to construct a conspiracy theory. I mean, you have to invent so much, go through such a thought process and be willing to make fantastic new interpretations of available material.
I mean, sci-fi and fantasy novelists should really feel that these conspiracists are trying steal their game.
Having lived with a couple of conspiracy theorists for a quarter of a century, not all conspiracy theories are that complicated. The ones on history are just way more complicated than most people want to even get involved with. This one is ... Yeah. somewhere there is a sci fi/fantasy novelist looking at the outline of this theory and shaking their heads. "No one will suspend disbelief long enough to get into the characters." Crumples up paper and starts over.
Nah, these losers never patent their views so we can just steal their ideas into our own stories, no questions asked.
@@omegatired I present to you: the word "hahaha". Strongly recommend ;)
@@Halo_Legend 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yep. Frequently applied it to the late conspiracy theorists ideas along with looks of disbelief.
All you have to do is make a wild claim, then work backwards to justify it.
Example: Big Soap controls the world.
People used to make their own soap, but there wasn't a lot of money in it. So a bunch of rich moguls got together and started making industrial soap, removing natural ingredients from the process for the purposes of cheaper chemicals that also work to make the users less fertile and more open to suggestion. Eventually they switched to liquid soap manufacturing for a cheaper product, but it also soaks into the skin easier, making mind control much more effective.
Therefore, in order to fight against the influence of Big Soap, you should buy all natural Burly Man Soap, which will make you a free thinker and restore your sexual potency!
Took me five minutes to come up with that.
"Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack."
Yeah, by the logic of these types of conspiracy theorists, the dinosaurs must have been the first creatures to ever walk on this planet because we don't have many, if any fossils from the Cenozoic to the Precambrian periods.
Looking at the state of the world, and the global politics, I'd hope people of the future refer to our time as the "Intellectual Dark Ages"... Because frankly... It is.
A few centuries from now...
"The birth of the internet began what we historians call the "Dunning-Kruger Period..."
As a Balkan history nerd I’m familiar with a lot of pseudohistories pushing the national agendas of basically every ethnic group in the Balkans. Croats are Illyrians or Goths, not Slavs, Serbs are the proto Indo Europeans, Bosniaks existed as a people not only prior to the conversion to Islam or even the Banate of Bosnia but in the Neolithic and they built magical pyramids, Greeks are Albanians, Albanians are Serbs, Slavic Macedonians are the people of Alexander, etc.
One theory I, as a lover of real medieval Serbian history am particularly annoyed by is the easily disproven “autochthonous hypothesis”, claiming Serbs and other Slavs did not migrate to the Balkans but were rather always there and that the Slavs or even all Indo Europeans branched out from there. This is kind of a reaction to Albanian pseudo historical claims about Albanians in Kosovo being remnants of the Dardanians, which they of course, are not.
And of course phantom time posits that the late migration period, when the Serbs, Croats, and Bulgars came to the Balkans, did not happen, and is used in all kinds of wacky ways and conveniently, implicating the Byzantines in the conspiracy erases basically all historical records of the Balkans between the fall of Rome and roughly the 1000s when Serbia began to interact with and get written about by the Siculo-Normans and crusaders. There is the Chronicle of the Priest of Dioclea that talks about that era but it’s a much later secondary source.
So I’m glad you covered this hot steaming mess
There are few ethnic groups that don't have somebody spouting this sort of nonsensical propaganda. Afrocentrists and Hindu nationalists are probably the worst. Nordic "Aryans" as the progenitors of all culture got discredited after WW2 but seems to be coming back in some circles. Japan's government also taught the same thing - Japanese were the first people and used to be the center of super-advanced world culture - in their ultra-nationalist stage but I doubt many Japanese people today buy any of it.
@@brucetucker4847 I know. I find the Catalans particularly funny. There are reasons I specifically have a problem with this in the Balkans:
1) Given the recent Yugoslav wars, nationalism is at an all time high so a surprising amount of people actually believe these insane theories
2) I like history, my ancestors are from the Balkans, I study a lot of Balkan history, and when looking for information or discussing this with people, I often hit the roadblock of "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE SERBS MIGRATED! WE'VE NEVER MIGRATED ANYWHERE! WE SPAWNED HERE1!" and I get called a western cuck or something. And God forgive I discuss Croatian or Albanian history with anyone. Since I take a fairly academic approach, I end up being called a traitor by some of my own people (Serbs) for not promoting certain more absurd theories on that side and the same from Albanians or Croats for not saying that God personally sculpted them from his own ejaculatory fluids on the exact holy and blessed they live on today before he created amoebas, and that all other humans are descended from their turds.
I have seen this theory before, and it is dumb as hell. It has so many problems
Also, "is that the final boss" is 100% the best way to react to a hard word.
The final boss of English is the word "world".
Even natives don't always say "weyarrld" each time and just quickly say "word" instead.
@@Halo_Legend I usually end up saying wurld
@@Halo_Legend I've never heard someone pronounce world as word.
No, the final boss is Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz ;)
Honestly, a phantom time hypothesis or mechanic would be far more interesting in a fictional setting. Perhaps a Warlock warped time to have history play out in a specific manner to summon some God or something.
What did that have to do with the video? Got me there.
@IMightBeAz - iirc, it has been used by Terry Pratchett in some of his Discworld books. One that springs to mind is in the book ‘Mort’, Death’s apprentice botches reaping the soul of a Princess/queen, so within her kingdom time progresses as if she hasn’t died, but outside its borders in the rest of the Disc time goes on as if she had died and iirc, when things get fixed both time periods end up existing with the Disc’s history (although, I guess that’s kinda the inverse of the hypothesis come to think of it 🤔).
@@lordofuzkulak8308 "Arrangements have been made".
Also "botching" it? He deliberately didn't do it.
The disc also has the time monks who work to patch such stuff up. And no, it's not that both periods exist. Death uses his powers to keep it that Princess Keli rules.
The Elder Scrolls games use this all the time. One of the Tamrielic emperors, Tiber Septim, changed his homeland Cyrodiil's climate so that it not only turned from jungle into lush garden, but changed natural history that it had _always been so,_ changing the human history of the area in the process.
Kinda meta thing, as this in-game lore probably reflects game studio Bethesda's own change of heart in the process of making ES 4: Oblivion, which takes place in Cyrodiil: they originally visioned it to be a jungle province, but changed it in the process towards more classical Western Europe -like setting.
Bethesda is also notorious from changing their lore of the world of Tamriel arbitrarily to suit whatever newest game/DLC requires. Tamriel, as it stands, is a place & time of perpetual change.
Well my histroy Teacher was really fan of this theory, 26 Years ago ... damn I am old :D, we did a lot of projects around this and worked out if it could have been done or not and we found quite the same points. And great job on the "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte." :)
W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie
@@Halo_Legend bless u :D
@@Halo_Legend
Uhm...
OK ?
Just came across this one on Twitter, yet again, from an Afrocentrist, taught this by his university he claimed but who knows if that is true; that Greeks weren't literate until they were taught how to read and write by Egyptians. When Alexander the Great got there. I've heard numerous ridiculous variations on this, but essentially it is, Africans either taught Europeans how to read and write, OR taught them how to read and write AGAIN after they had forgotten during the "Dark Ages" (not the Greek Dark Ages).
Stupidity without frontiers...
next time that comes up just point out that at the time of 'first contact' between Greece and egypt, Egyptian was a logogram and greek is a proper alphabet... basically two fundamentally different approaches to a written language. How the greeks learned something that would be essentially alien to the egyptians from the egyptians would be a fascinating but of mental gymnastics
@@petriew2018 Oh these sorts don't care about historical facts. I've tried to discuss Linear A and B, they just say they didn't actually exist.
@@petriew2018 To the extent they base this on anything remotely resembling evidence, it's that the classical Greek alphabet was based on Phoenician letters that ultimately descended from people adapting Egyptian logograms to represent sounds in their own language (the proto-Sinaitic script). But that was a good thousand years before the Greek alphabet developed, and, again, that was brought to Greece by Phoenicians, not Egyptians. And the Greek alphabet existed in some form for a good 4-500 years before Alexander the Great. It also wasn't the first script used to write Greek, that was the script we now know as Linear B, which was probably descended from Cretan hieroglyphs that were, as far as we can tell, completely unrelated to Egyptian hieroglyphs. And while the Egyptians definitely invented their own hieroglyphs, it is quite likely that they didn't independently invent the idea of writing, they got the idea from the Sumerians.
Of course the Afrocentrists also insist that the Sumerians, like basically everyone else on the planet, were actually black Africans before they got "replaced" by "Arabs". And any evidence for anything contradicting their claims is all fake news made up by racists.
Afrocentrists are very silly people.
I've been having a conversation with a guy who thinks that the pyramids were basically massive solar power generators to power an advanced civilization.
When I asked him how blocks of limestone and granite could supposedly produce solar power he was less than enthusiastic.
Damn, I wanted to hear how stone provided solar power. It would change everything
Solar powered climate control devices. They heat up during day and warm the winds at night. This is star trek shit you know!
Well you see, they used to be white washed so the white surface of the pyramids would reflect and focus the sunlight to where they needed.
Reminds me of the products that are basically aluminum pyramids frames. The manufacturers has numerous claims that it make you smart , sharpen blades and other stuffs. I think one iteration is "barong triangle" endorsed by a weatherman of all people.
I mean, anything on earth with mass absorbs solar radiation and converts it to thermal "power" in the sense that it holds a temperature above that of the void of space, so in a purely technical sense he is correct... but obviously anything beyond basic thermodynamics concepts is hogwash.
"Vohenstrauß"
would be pronounced:
foe-en-shtrous
The pronunciation of the society was actually pretty good. Appreciate the effort.
Ooof no offense to the sponsor but "personal carbonfootprint" while easily digestible by an individual is a miniscule insignificant part of global pollution because it inherently takes into account that any use of services provided to the individual is set in stone and the provider can do no wrong and is tied to current practices, which is insanity.
Also the whole concept was a fabrication to divert responsability away from BP, and there's also evidence that simple measures taken by these giants could easily have turned the tide in our favor AND KEEP PROFITS, including global goverments stopping subsidies and incentivizing renewables, with an argument to be made for temporary nuclear power as well...
@Metatron as an german i want to say your quote Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte was on point i am allways impressed how good your language skills are.
No german sentence was ever designed to be said fast, ten times in a row 🤣
Wrong. "Stimmt nicht!" 😜
When I first heard about this, I thought the person telling me about it was just doing a poor job of trying to explain the term "dark ages" being a misnomer. It took a while to actually realize how far he was going into crazy.
For me your first argument is the strongest. It's parallel to believing the Soviets would not have called BS on the Moon landing "hoax".
Would they know if a manned craft or unmanned craft went there?
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Video signals from the Moon are pretty conclusive.
And yes, the old joke about faking it on Earth with 60's video tech being more expensive than doing it for real is true.
The Soviets would have been looking for literally any hint of fakery.
EDIT. Also, they'd have been able to receive and decode bio telemetry for the astronauts, and would have detected uplinked signals if they had existed.
@@markfergerson2145 Not really.
A probe can have prerecorded content.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 no, they wouldn't, which is why they could have easily screamed 'prove it! it's impossible'... and had no reason not to at the time.
They knew it was possible and thus had no reason to doubt it based on the actual evidence, which is why they, and really all intelligent people, dismiss that conspiracy theory as the nonsense it frankly is.
@@jeffkardosjr.3825 Think about all of the variables prerecorded content would have to account for. Slight orbital velocity changes would drastically alter when the craft went behind and came out from behind the Moon, for instance. That's just one detail theorists never consider.
To make the conspiracy theory work would require far more materials, planning and sheer luck than went into the actual landings.
Great video. The part about the astronomical evidence reminded me, an old sailor, of how if anyone learns how to use a sextant and chronometer, they know absolutely that the "flat earth" theory is WRONG.
Dendrochronology is a good way of tracing , but the results are not so specific. That's why we use other methods as well, combined with sources
I had to Google this because I didn't believe this could be a real conspiracy theory.
My faith in humanity went down a notch again.
Judging by the title, this is going to be another awsome video! :) Ok, enough talk, time to watch! :)
As a german I can say your pronunciation of "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte" was quite good.
Did... Did we just find a language that Metatron isn't fluent in? Those exist? That's clearly the most absurd conspiracy theory I've ever heard, and it's easily debunked.
It's a terrifying reality to accept.
Im sure he could learn proper German pronunciation too, as he is very much into proper language pronunciation. But then again there are so many languages that he would never learn them all.
There's a book called Holy Blood Holy Grail, published in 1982, and it's about Mary Magdaline being the Holy Grail. Supposedly, she and Jesus Christ had a son and their son was the progenitor of the Merovingian Dynasty of France. The book was used as a source for a book and movie. It was based on a document in the French National Library wich has been discredited as a forgery.
I ran into a guy that claimed all time before the 1700 had been fabricated because there were no items or letters with dates written on them before that.
I said that didn't make sense and wasn't true, proceeding to show him many pictures and documentation of items from museums.
He immediately switched his claim without acknowledgement and just claimed all those were forged.
It fits with his claim that it was all fabricated. You should have asked him why anyone would go to all that trouble.
@@julietfischer5056 You seem to have missed the point. He claimed one thing, then when his claim was shown obviously false, he dropped it and jumped to trying to explain why the opposite of his original claim was true.
The moment i read the title i knew it was about Illig, i read the book around 20 years ago. Illig is to history what Erich von Däniken is to Aliens. He looks at something, draws a crazy conclusion and then creates the arguments to "prove" his opinion.
Perfectly pronounced the german words 👌
Thank you for your content, I appreciate
Im not disputing that climate change exists, but is it not true that with recent glacial melt in a certain region in the alps there were previously undiscovered ancient trade routes made visible? This suggests that during the ancient period the area was free enough of ice for a trade route to be established despite there being a relatively low carbon footprint by todays standards. Is there not millions of dollars to be made by accepting carbon caused climated change into government policy?
No.
@@minutemansam1214 literally all you have to do is do an internet search for melting glacier reveals ancient trade routes.
If you're looking at one specific area there are a lot of variables that can cause local variations. A generally cooler climate could also be a locally drier one that caused less snow to fall leading to less glaciation in one area.
The main reason for the existence of theories like this is common shortsightedness. Yes, you can find regions with little to no new constructions in a given time span, however if you step over borders you suddenly find the evidence you could not (or did not want to) see.
No, the reason for the existence of such theories is lack of proper education these days. And by "proper education" I don't mean just spewing facts upon people without any explanation - I mean presenting the sources of our knowledge and actual scientific evidence when we teach people about some subject, teaching critical thinking, questioning etc. instead of just dumb repetition and regurgitation of whatever the teacher says.
@@bonbonpony What do you mean by "these days"? The education you crave did not exist in your parents, grandparents or great-grandparents time. And it's safe for me to claim that without knowing your age
Metatron: "There is no phantom time to be added."
The Holy Roman Emperor Otto III, Pope Sylvester II, and possibly the Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII: "got'em boys! "
*high fives*
The Dark Ages that I learned about at school never existed. They are now called the Early Middle Ages. But what did they call the middle ages in the middle ages? They couldn't have been called the middle ages. So perhaps they really didn't exist.
We called it the Middle Ages in school and they were from 500-1500. Later I learned about a division between Early (500-1000) and Late (1000-1500) Middle Ages.
During the Middle Ages, people probably just called it "the present" or "xth century"
We don't have a name of our current time either, that is up to historians of a later era to do.
@@lytsedraak Beyond "the 21st century" or more specifically "the '20s", of course.
My favorite part was when the metatron said “its metatronin’ time” and the metatroned all over the place
The gap of 3 "missing" days to explain the 300 years gap is simple to explain : the corrected Gregorian calendar didn't target what it was at year zero, but how it was during the Council of Nicea in 325. So the calendar was off by 12 days since the 4th century, as there should be, and not by 15 days.
Well, it would've been pretty hard to use the year 0 as the point of reference, considering that neither julian nor gregorian calendars have year 0.
That seems to have been the starting point of Illig.
@@nanaya7e433 True, but that doesn't cause any measurable discrepancy. You get the same corrections (15 vs 10 - actually - missing days) if you target year 1 AD vs 325 AD.
@@Nikolas_Davis How any of that has anything to do with what I said will be forever a mystery to me.
Metatron, are those in background miniatures for Kings of War (Basilea)? If so, that's so cool, put some photos of those little dudes once painted please
Yes! Good spotting! I’ve just got into it.
Ever heard of the Tartaria and Mud Flood theory? Basically It says the tatars were intentionally erased from history fairly recently and that they had great technological deeds for his time. A video about It would be nice
I would like if you checked the "mud flood" theory and "Tartaria", since it can be helpful to talk about actual lost empires and buried archeological sites
Your german pronounciation is suprisingly good.
So we do not have evidence of two brothers: Cyril and Methodius, coming up with a writing system for the Slavs in the 860s later reworked into the Cyrillic script used to this day ?
I love these schizo theories, good read for when you are high or drunk.
There’s a fun theory I’ve heard of where people don’t believe Finland exists.
I remember seeing a conspiracy theory where they say theres evidence an ancient Hindu sage invented airplanes 7000 years ago and could move in any direction and tragel from planet to planet.
When I saw that I was like, oh Lord! Add that to the list of dumb stuff thats out there on the internet
Hindu mythology is a motherlode for 'Ancient Astronaut' and 'Primordial Civilization' types. It has a cosmic sweep missing from European and Abrahamic religions and mythologies, incredible vehicles and weapons used in wars that make the Olympians v. Titans look like a playground fight, and hasn't been unduly influenced by outsiders.
Damn, they even contacted the Kingdoms of the Americas and then kept it a secret. Very impressive
They even invited the Atlanteans just to brag about how they erased 300 years, then sank them so they couldn't tell anyone about it.
Your German pronunciation is fantastic!
6:20 as a german native speaker, im unironically impressed by your pronounciation.
How would backdating even work? What dates would be left, and thus suddenly lie 300years in the past and what dates jump forward accordingly? I guess banking didn't really exist as today but surely there would be lots of cases where there are different interests on what records are adjusted to the new age and what left to the old.
And what did the Arab world think of this?
Theories like this are stunningly Eurocentric, typically because they are created out of ignorance. Being Eurocentric flows naturally out of a broader ignorance.
2023: Nobody in Germany is talking about Illig's theory anymore. It had it's height maaaaany years ago. And no true historian ever thougt it legit.
All silliness of the theory aside, your German pronunciation is pretty spot on 💪🏻
I think wren would do better job if they dropped this carbon footprint coercion tactics and simply offered environmental projects to support. "Repent for sin of your mere existence!" type of rhetoric isn't going to work well outside of very specific group of people.
Anyway, great video as usual. Keep up the good work.
It's old school. Who would have imagined that the 21st century would see the revival of buying indulgences for your sins?
Not to defend the theory, as it's not one I've looked into myself, but I've found that Wikipedia tends to frame things like this in the most ridiculous way possible, and in the worst cases can completely misrepresent the arguments being made.
The ex-husband of my stepmother likes history and he once presented me with this claim saying that he found it convincing. I was still a teenager back then, but I found this claim strongly lacking.
The biggest reason for it is that you simply can‘t make up time because it would have been missing from carbon dating, from calendars, astronomical dating and other scientific dating techniques. If he had claimed that this time period happened differently as written history, that would be much more realistic, but claiming an entire time period missing just creates simple mathematical problems
Metatron, you should cover the Finno-Korean Hyperwar in response.
Ngl, this would make a great premise for a historical novel.
Ok but we’re still going with the Conspiracy Theory that Pope Sylvester II was a medieval wizard that had a mechanical bronze head that could answer questions like some sort of demonic magic eight ball, right? Yeah, there’s some weird stories around him, which I don’t take seriously.
I tend to agree with Einstein when he ( allegedly.. ;-) ) said that 2 things were infinite.. the universe and human stupidity, and he wasn't even sure about the universe.
Ooh! Oh! I've heard of this one before!
It's so mindboggling silly, it's genuinely kind of funny.
I mean, to be fair, Europe and China didn't really interact that much. You don't need China to falsify records. You just need the three kingdoms period to be about the time of augustus.
The Julian Calendar established (45 BC *) 1 extra day for every 4 years (average 365.25). The Gregorian Reformation (1582 AD) changed that the years of the end of the century did NOT add up to the Extra day (current average 365.2422 days). The 0.0078 days of difference ACCUMULATE 1 day every 128.2 years.
If the Ref. Calend. Gregorian was made in 1582, leaving 12.33 days of displacement of the vernal equinox (spring). If we count from Julius Caesar 44 BC, there are 1582 + 45 = 1627 years. The shift is 12.69 days. Pope Gregory only added 10 days (NOT 13 as he should).
Was the reform done in 1282 instead of 1582 ???
Some say Church only counted from the Council of Nicea (325 AD), 1582-325 = 1257 years. Unfortunately, there is no written source that claims that; just some Constantine's letters to non-attendants promoting Christians to be different from the Jewish Passover tradition. Heribert Ilig and later Hans Ulrich Niemitz calculate that there is a 297-year shift in the calendar. (Inter Gravissimas)
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Anatolius of Ladiocea (283 AD) describes in 'Paschal Canon' that the equinox was on March 19. If we know that in 1582 the equinox was established on March 21 (astronomically March 11, without the 10 days added), there is a shift of 19-11 = 8 days. Those 8 days ACCUMULATE 1025 years since Anatolius lived, then 1025 + 283 = 1308 must have been the year of the Gregorian Reformation.
Some suggest that 'Paschal Canon' was used at the Council of Nicea (325), then 1025 + 325 = 1350. The difference between the official date of the Gregorian Reformation 1582 and 1350 is 232 years, which the Church invented.
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In 1970 Robert Newton, NASA astronomer, studied all the eclipses recorded in historical documents, and discovered that before 1000 AD the dates were offset by about 3 centuries. He writes scientific papers on a DECELERATION of the Earth's rotation and the presence of NON-GRAVITATIONAL FORCES. Other astronomers like Stephenson and Morrison have similar studies. In 1980, A. Fomenko and his team of astronomers and mathematicians reviewed R. Newton's works, and found that N. Morozov had already done the same with elcipses manually in the 19th century. They conclude that there is a shift of 3 centuries.
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In 2016, dating scientists, Larsson and Ossowski, tried to create a CONTINUOUS chronology using tree rings (Dendrochronology) in Europe for the last 2,500 years. They conclude that it is impossible to create a bridge between various ring blocks dated in various places and that there is a 232-year offset (invented) in the Christian Era.
Regarding the criticism about CHINESE AND ARAB sources, you only have to consult Wikipedia to see that Rome's relations with China WERE NOT DIRECT, but rather through intermediate border towns. SUPPOSED ENVIES OF MARCUS AURELIUS AND ANTONINUS PIUS (2nd and 3rd centuries AD), THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTS that corroborate it; and then THERE IS A LONG GAP (3 CENTURIES!!) without references until the Byzantine era (7th century). The first Arabic sources on AL-ANDALUS date back to the 10th century, and are Christian "translations." Arabic references range from the 10th to the 15th century. The earliest surviving sources are from the 15th century (Al-Maqqari).
If anyone wants Google Scholar references I can provide them.
Regarding astronomical events (comets, eclipses...) I have already mentioned their inaccuracy (Fomenko, R. Newton) but better read Alexander Demandt who prepared a study with 250 historically recorded eclipses, reaching the conclusion that more than 200 were incorrect or imprecise. Even those of Ptolemy have been shown to be fraudulent. Astronomer Richard Stephenson points out that many of his supposed observations were calculated data. “Most writings are literary poems” and others were done to “exaggerate the importance of a battle” or “emphasize the birth, accession, or death of a king” [e.g. battle Gaugamela, Alexander the Great 331 BC].
I hope you have learned something interesting Aldo, and without further ado I invite you to respond and exchange SOURCES AND PAPERS. Always scientific, of course¡
Have you considered Black plague and Justinian plague being the same one? The descriptions are awfully similar
Hey, Metatron, you should talk about hollow Earth, and the lengths people have gone through to find it
I was always under the impression the theory was not that the Middle Ages didn’t exist, but the dates of certain things did not get accurately recorded and so there were over laps of things.
I thought this was interesting not really knowing anything about the time period. This theory sounds outrageously out there to have pulled off, and have it still going.
"Wren?"..."What is, Stimpy?"
"calculate your own social score and then give away money to save the planet" is not a sponsor message I was expecting from Metratron, who is otherwise a down-to-earth creator anchored in areas of expertise that take ages to analize and even so, have experts that disagree with each-other.
I'm kind of curious if he can see the parallel between carbon offsets and papal indulgences. Now if Wren had an option to support new nuclear power generation around the world, that would actually be cool and might actually do something.
Paused around the 7 minute mark.
I learned in school that in the middle ages people themselves DID call that period the middle ages because they had the feeling that they were in the middle of it all in that period.
Meaning that they thought that the time between the creation and their own life would be just as long as the time between them and the end of times.
I always thought that was a bit far-fetched...
Metatron, shouldn’t you be convinced by the strength of the evidence for climate change instead of whether or not there is a scientific consensus (not saying there isn’t)? Scientists, researchers, university staff, etc. are humans who are not immune to peer pressure, fear of social ostracization and losing their careers/tenures, and desire to gain funding.
One scientist or a small group of scientists could be reasonably doubted, if in good scientific faith. Metatron is not a climate researcher, so isn't equipped to go through all the evidence himself (neither am I). It's very hard to correctly assess the "strength of the evidence for climate change" as a layperson. In this case, it's best practice to trust the scientific consensus of thousands of scientists all around the world. In this same sense, I trust the scientific consensus around the classification of the domestic cat in the family of Felidae, because most taxonomists agree on this and I am not an expert in this field.
Well, there's two sides to this:
On one hand, you could argue that appeal to authority alone is not a good argument.
On the other hand however, there is simply the fact that science is complicated and even if you look up the evidence, you might draw entirely wrong conclusions from it because you are not trained in evaluating that kind of data and simply misinterpret what it is actually representing.
It should also be noted that when there is sufficiently good evidence to actually challenge a current theory, you bet that scientists are going to go after it. I don't want to paint researchers as glory seekers, but being able to disprove a major mainstream theory is still somewhat of a whet dream for them. As long as a study is conducted in an orderly manner and isn't very obviously a piece of biased propaganda, you also have not much to fear except for people disagreeing with you. But scientists disagree on things all the time.
Like, even in terms of climate change: Sure, there is consense at large that it exists and is man-made (at least among the researchers not working for conservative think tanks whilst being sponsored by Shell and BP), but there's still plenty of arguing about the more specific details and, more importantly, on how it should be addressed.
Peer review is generally an important process and it won't throw out works over disagreements in terms of conclusion, but if there are glaring issues with a work, then those need to be addressed.
Bad information by bad actors can cause an incredibly amount of damage, as the example of the Wakefield study (the one that claimed that the MMR vaccine causes autism, which turned out to be not only bad science but an outright fraud and that inspired the movement behind anti-vaxxers as we know them today) has shown too well.
The thing is, consesus is based on empyrical evidence, but is only useful for those who aren't experts on the subject (one person can't know everything, that's why people generally trust their doctor), scienists care only about the evidence.
@@darthplagueis13 “when there is sufficiently good evidence to challenge a theory, you bet that scientists are going to go after it.” This is true, except when the good evidence challenges, not a non-parochial hypothesis/theory, but rather when it challenges “the science” (a “too big to fail” dogmatic hypothesis/theory backed by tons of funding, with a guild-like credentialist structure built around it).
your german was extremly good, pronunciation was spot on, little wierd emphasised syllables, but without hearing it first it was near perfect.
All of these personal emissions reducing and tree planting ain't gonna do shit unless the corporations reduce their emissions as well
300 years is pushing it, best I can do is 25 years.
Hey, there are people who write and read books about alternate history right? I like to think of these conspiracies in a similar manner. I know there are people who fully believe in them which is silly but whats wrong in developing these theories in the 1st place? They are just insanely interesting to think about!!!
@Evil Dragon man if they are interesting and plausible (!) enough i do not care
You answeared yourself. What is wrong in developing them? People belive in them. Just like not so long ago people belived %G transfer coronavirus and destroy comunication towers
Your "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menschheits- und Naturgeschichte" sounded perfect! I'm very impressed
european countrys were not that precisely defined in the middelages especialy the early to high middleages Innocenz III basicly managed all of western europes politics, Urban II. managed to organize a multinational crusade against the interests for the ruling monarchs at the time, etc.
so, now you know why the crusades really happened.. it was because those pesky middle-easterners didn't want to turn their clocks back 300 years. Now i think of it.. did or does the Middle-East actually exsists ? now i've confused myself.. lolzz
I realized that the reason why I never have time for anything is because my life only has two halves. That actually explains a lot...
even after 43 years on this planet it still amazes me how stupid some people can be!!
You want to meet some of the whoppers I meet on a daily basis. Bat shit crazy is a poor way to discribe them.
It was so funny as a German to see you trying to read that complex term lol
Check out the Mud Flood and the Tartarian Empire conspiracy theories
The reason for the the 300 year gap is that we lost 660 years of chronology in world history , but the Diocletian era and the Era of the Martyrs were mistakenly considered identical, so Medieval Europe lost 300 or so years. Thus relative to the rest of world, Europe seemed 300 years into the future
Ave, Metatron; I salute your attempts at German pronunciation (you're doing fine; keep practicing, amigo mio), and once again, we're in agreement on the fact that the 'Middle Ages' did indeed exist 😁. For me, two questions arise: First, where did the idea of 'missing time' come from in the first place? Second, what modern agenda would it advance?
Every time I run out of Metatron videos to watch I fell like I'M living in the Dark Ages.
Just for fun check out " History: Chronology 1" by Professor Anatoly Fomenko. This book goes down so many rabbit holes it'll spin your head but is incredibly interesting. He doesn't invoke any conspiracy but lays it down to human error. Just the statistical analysis section on frequency of references to historical events is amazing. Even if you dismiss the premises it's still a great read.
Or anything by Vincent Bridges about the Alchemists of Prague and the search for the Philosophers' Stone ;)
I am so amazed how good your German was on this
your pronunciation of "Gesellschaft zur Rekonstruktion der Menscheits- und Naturgeschichte" wasn't actually that bad... very good in fact compared to other TH-camrs trying to pronounce German words. sure it's not perfect but compared to others I've heard it's pretty good
As a German I have to clap my hands how well you pronounced the words immediately. I shouldn't be so amazed since you studied languages, still I am so happy hearing well pronounciation. Even Germans lack this ability sometimes it seems to me. So, 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Hello, friend. There are really so many conspiracy theories... Where to start and where to end. One theory sayd that the Chinese kings and royal family members of the Xia dynasty (I mean the first dynasty of China) are in fact of European type- of course, there are no proof of this. And another says that the modern Greeks, like me, have no biological or cultural connection to the ancient Greeks, who disappeared somewhere into the Roman era- again false, there is plethora of evidence about the continuation of the Greek culture into the Christian era and through the Byzantine period and the Turkish occupation up into modern times, also the biology of the Greeks has not changed in significant ways from old times to modern times in ways significantly different than in any other part of the world. This last theory is the famous theory of Ferdinand Falmereier and now it is not accepted as a scientific theory (as the previous one for the Chinese royal families of the ancient era), however I have heard about it many times even here in Greece. Well, I would like to hear your opinion about these two theories, if you find time. Have a nice time.
"And another says that the modern X, have no biological or cultural connection to the ancient X, who disappeared somewhere into the Y era"
There is also version of this, but with Egypt.
Anciet greeks were blode and blue eyed, moder greeks are more similar to jews than anyone else really, also we litterally found blond/read head mummies in china
@@vladprus4019 same, ancient egyptians were blue eyed blond/red haired, nothing like "egyptians"