Journey's Neal Schon Breaks Silence on Jonathan Cain's Lawsuit

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  • Journey guitarist Neal Schon has responded to the lawsuit filed by his bandmate Jonathan Cain. Neal Schon has denied the claims made in the suit.
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  • @brucesmith9144
    @brucesmith9144 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    This is soon to be the _Separate Ways_ tour.

  • @danasekundiak2604
    @danasekundiak2604 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    If it’s so bad then shut it down! It really hasn’t been
    Journey without Perry Vallory and Smith.

    • @bonniemcfarland2448
      @bonniemcfarland2448 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Totally agree, if they r losing crew how to they get their stage together, they just need to stop, the original smade it

    • @synthonaplinth5980
      @synthonaplinth5980 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@bonniemcfarland2448 Steve Perry and Steve Smith were not originals.

    • @bonniemcfarland2448
      @bonniemcfarland2448 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      True, should have said their names, they were my 😍 favorite

    • @jeffreyconner2937
      @jeffreyconner2937 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I am sure that Perry, Valory, and Smith are happy to no longer be in the band.

    • @jeffreyconner2937
      @jeffreyconner2937 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@synthonaplinth5980True. Robert Fleischman was actually Journeys first frontman. Prairie Prince not Aynsley Dunbar was the original drummer.

  • @DeliRevv
    @DeliRevv หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    When Steve Perry left, so did my interest in Journey.

    • @Eric-ot7en
      @Eric-ot7en หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That’s the way I felt about the original keyboard guy. He was the voice of the band to me.

    • @Jp-hv9zj
      @Jp-hv9zj หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Gregg Rollie

    • @daveg4236
      @daveg4236 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Agreed. I have seen SP, steve augeri and Arnell. All incredible but without SP, just a tribute

    • @pamjarrett-s9s
      @pamjarrett-s9s หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Me too! Steve Perry could never be replaced!

    • @monicaprice2307
      @monicaprice2307 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Same here. Journey's been its own cover band for years now. Show me another band that goes out and find sound-alikes for their former lead singer. People think they're going to get me excited about Journey coming in concert. I don't care. It's not the Journey I love.

  • @theronhayden4671
    @theronhayden4671 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    And Steve Perry be sitting at home racking it in .....brilliant move by Perry

    • @hippiechick2112
      @hippiechick2112 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I was thinking the same thing. Sitting back and watching it, laughing.

    • @lenaaustin6692
      @lenaaustin6692 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theronhayden4671 maybe they can cover For the love of strange medicine or street talk.

    • @lenaaustin6692
      @lenaaustin6692 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@hippiechick2112 I thought the same thought tambien.

    • @deshaunx776
      @deshaunx776 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      True but let’s not pretend that it was all by choice. Steve lost that magic voice decades ago. He’s been riding on [well-earned] nostalgia since the 90s.

    • @dianajennings7767
      @dianajennings7767 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theronhayden4671 he has a really good lawyer

  • @speed6725
    @speed6725 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    This band has more drama than General Hospital

    • @lenaaustin6692
      @lenaaustin6692 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@speed6725 minus Rick Springfield aka Dr. Noah Drake.

    • @speed6725
      @speed6725 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lenaaustin6692 lol and let me guess… John Stamos as Blackie Parrish lol

    • @kennethwilliams9301
      @kennethwilliams9301 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Soy boy Neil is all the drama and has been since the beginning

    • @lenaaustin6692
      @lenaaustin6692 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@speed6725 Lol yes. 😆

    • @kathys1285
      @kathys1285 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @dave9497
    @dave9497 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Now we know what Steve meant in the VH1 documentary when he said "I never felt like I was truly part of the band."

    • @jeffreyconner2937
      @jeffreyconner2937 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes and Steve was not an original member. Keyboardist Gregg Rolie did the vocals on the first three albums.

    • @warptek
      @warptek 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactamundo.

    • @OswaldBatesIIIEsq
      @OswaldBatesIIIEsq 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jeffreyconner2937"To Play Some Music" and "Mystery Mountain" hit pretty hard. I can't forget about "I'm Going To Leave You".

    • @frederickwarren4158
      @frederickwarren4158 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@jeffreyconner2937. Yet, Steve is the reason they made it big and that most people know who they are!

  • @seanmurphy26
    @seanmurphy26 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I have a close friend who is a great professional musician, the biggest Neal fan. He was in a large Journey tribute band for years celebrating Neal. He has been handed countless cease and desists from Neals' lawyer for decades. Neal personally strikes his TH-cam channels too.. It all started when my friend met Neal and told him that he was his biggest fan, and tried to play like him in the very successful Journey Tribute. Neal sneered at him coldly and has been on Neal's radar EVER SINCE, doind whatever he can to bring him down.. Shocking

    • @buddfoxx5955
      @buddfoxx5955 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Agreed! Ironic, isn't it, that Neil discovered Arnel on TH-cam, the very medium he strikes your friend. It speaks volumes about Neil's character, doesn't it?

    • @seanmurphy26
      @seanmurphy26 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@buddfoxx5955 respect. My buddy still plays in that band periodically. This last memorial Day marked like the 28th year in a row that this very successful Journey tribute band went on a USO tour through the Middle East entertaining the troops. This year, they literally had Uriah Duffy (current bass player for Whitesnake), and the current drummer from Y&T (forgot his name). So it is almost like a super group

    • @buddfoxx5955
      @buddfoxx5955 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@seanmurphy26 Props to your buddy. It sounds like a great lineup. He has some great players and great players like your buddy attract great players. From Wayne in Canada, I wish him and his bandmates continued success.

    • @cedarbay3994
      @cedarbay3994 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Never meet your heroes. Better yet, don’t have heroes. Be your own hero.

    • @shawncosmos5431
      @shawncosmos5431 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@seanmurphy26 I played drums in a local bar band. A hobby. Not touring. Not recording an album. Playing true dives for a few bucks a gig and our love for music….. We got a ‘Cease and desist’ order from Jimmy Buffet’s lawyer (s) for playing ‘Margaritaville’ Fu#$$& A holes. . We were really a threat to his bottom line playing for 10 to 30 people. Or on some days crickets was our audience. Still can’t figure out how in the hell they found us..Social media nor the internet existed yet..l

  • @VivaToddVegas
    @VivaToddVegas หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    It’s amazing to me that adult men who are given the extreme PRIVILEGE of performing music for a living can’t keep their egos in check. They are living the dream of millions of musicians who would do almost anything to be making their living on stage. You’d especially think a legacy band like Journey would just be incredibly grateful to still have enough popularity to get to tour for a living. This kind of squabbling is immature, ungrateful, and unprofessional.

    • @Telluridepilot
      @Telluridepilot หลายเดือนก่อน

      “ cough “ Van Halen

  • @neenee7362
    @neenee7362 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Neal has always done what he wanted to do regardless of anyone else. He is a great guitar player but not a very nice person. Very selfish.

    • @seanmurphy26
      @seanmurphy26 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Good call, ANYBODY In the know, knows he is a nightmare..

    • @user-cv4kd1ke8k
      @user-cv4kd1ke8k หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I've been around him a few times, once as part of the crew. Nobody was allowed to talk to him. We were nothing but servants and now former fans. He was a complete asshole to everyone. It was all about him and his wife.

    • @thedude-jb7wx
      @thedude-jb7wx 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it was selfish of Cain to throw his political opinion around

    • @twistoffate4791
      @twistoffate4791 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@user-cv4kd1ke8kI went to Oakton High School in VA with his wife, who was then called Missy Holt. She was much nicer then, and looked quite different.

    • @kathydigi3537
      @kathydigi3537 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-cv4kd1ke8k I know Steve use to hang out a little with the crew as he knew their importance

  • @jwbru2531
    @jwbru2531 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    If I'm spending a few hundred bucks a night and my partner is spending $10,000, I'm not going to be a happy camper either. I'm with Jonathon Cain on this one. You would think this would be a pretty easy thing to fix??

    • @BBaldwin
      @BBaldwin หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Neal has always been the problem. His expensive tastes in cars and other toys, coupled with his flakey Housewives star wife, only exacerbated an issue that has been welll known for a very long time.

    • @buddfoxx5955
      @buddfoxx5955 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      An age-old problem with partnerships professionally and personally, and they virtually all end up badly.

    • @markc4050
      @markc4050 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@BBaldwin Let's not forget Cain is married to a Christian pastor who asked her followers to tithe a day...a week....a months pay to her ministry.

    • @piktormusic2538
      @piktormusic2538 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@markc4050Paula White is a grifter. I don’t interpret her conduct as Christian. Have you seen her speaking tongues shtick? And the there was her weird rant: “And strike and strike and strike and strike and strike and strike ….”

    • @kathyscoppettuolo4203
      @kathyscoppettuolo4203 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The core issue is that they never should have formed a 50/50 LLC without having a neutral 3rd party to resolve disputes.

  • @terrylelko4626
    @terrylelko4626 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Steve Perry was the smart one! He had the best lawyer around and he still holds position to his song writing rights. Ross and Smitty were lucky that they're no longer in the band, as well. My heart goes out to Arnel, he is the real innocent in this whole thing.

  • @user-cv4kd1ke8k
    @user-cv4kd1ke8k หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I've been around Neal a few times, once as part of the crew. Nobody was allowed to talk to him. We were nothing but servants and now former fans. He was a complete asshole to everyone. It was all about him and his wife.

    • @rrip1527
      @rrip1527 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-cv4kd1ke8k I'd not be able to talk to Neal because by back would hurt from leaning down to his height.

  • @islandfocus2
    @islandfocus2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Time to retire the Journey name and band. Journey is no longer Journey after Steve Perry's departure. Neil should just move on and continue with "Journey Through Time" with Gregg Rolie.

    • @lboog0907
      @lboog0907 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You say that but it’s been Journey without Steve Perry for years now and it’s still gonna be the band name like it or not

    • @kathydigi3537
      @kathydigi3537 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@islandfocus2 he won’t as it’s all about the money

  • @RedDawg
    @RedDawg หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Journey makes the Eagles look like the Waltons...

  • @troyvineyard3780
    @troyvineyard3780 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Actually Neal is a Prima Donna Narcissist. Sad but true. Ask any one around him last few years ... Arnel get the hell outta there bro. You deserve so much better. Get out early. Holy shit Batman. WTF?

    • @wasatchm
      @wasatchm หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      the question is, can arnel write? if not, he'd probably make more mony sticking with journey.

    • @chriskitchen4772
      @chriskitchen4772 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@wasatchm Arnel is a multi millionare and does NOT need Journey.

    • @seanmurphy26
      @seanmurphy26 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You were The first person to call it! Neil is absolutely a narcissist and the cause of all the problems of journey!

    • @reneeheknowsmyname6771
      @reneeheknowsmyname6771 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And with all this touring, I'm surprised that Arnel still has a voice!
      Classic Journey 4ever!

    • @revenantband1
      @revenantband1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@seanmurphy26 Cain isn't a complete innocent either.

  • @rhondawilkins2017
    @rhondawilkins2017 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    51 year “JOURNEY” fan!
    It’s time to RETIRE the band. The last couple weeks videos in the USA 🇺🇸 tour are all the “Michaele Salahi Schon” show on steroids!
    I’m sick of the constant infighting and will put my $$ toward STEVE PERRY as he’s hinted at getting onstage again.

    • @CarlosRamTx
      @CarlosRamTx หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm a big steve perry fan but we are holding onto memories of his greatness from over 30 years ago. The man is 75 now. I don't think he wants to compete with his young greatness.

    • @rhondawilkins2017
      @rhondawilkins2017 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CarlosRamTx Your opinion only!

    • @CarlosRamTx
      @CarlosRamTx หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@rhondawilkins2017 Absolutely. Like I said I'm a big fan of Steve. I wish him the best if he chooses to go out and tour.

    • @mattwuxx3888
      @mattwuxx3888 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you listened to Steve's last solo LP, you'd hear that his range has dropped about an octave and a half, since his time in Journey. Unless he's planning on using some fancy pitched-up note-matching autotune effects while he sings, there's simply no way he can ever sing the hits of Journey again. It's time to let go of this fantasy some of us have for a triumphant Perry return.

    • @pascaldeslongchampsmoncton1490
      @pascaldeslongchampsmoncton1490 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@mattwuxx3888I don't want to argue on that , but don't you think that an octave and a half is a lot? A step and a half is pretty low too, I heard him sing from some video online dated from about 2 years ago, and he is not even a step down. I am not saying he can hit all the notes he was hitting 30 years ago, but an octave and a half is a lot, take your piano, guitar or bass play a note, and go an octave and a half lower, and you will hear a huge difference.

  • @haydenhazen815
    @haydenhazen815 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Journey is not Journey without Steve Perry. Period.

  • @xray606
    @xray606 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "What do you care I pay for it" So he does spend that much then. And I seriously doubt that's coming out of his personal funds.

  • @alpenglow4243
    @alpenglow4243 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My family knew Neal’s family in San Mateo, and they always pronounced it like Shawn.

  • @richardbelisle4807
    @richardbelisle4807 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Neal needs more plastic sugery…

    • @landerson4319
      @landerson4319 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lol- I was thinking the same thing

    • @Lori_in_CT
      @Lori_in_CT 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably putting all that Botox on the credit card too.

  • @RandyWillcox
    @RandyWillcox หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Schon. Rhymes with Don...Ron...Tron...and Bon.

    • @ronmaljak8401
      @ronmaljak8401 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No. Pronounced as Shawn.

  • @scottlaboch4534
    @scottlaboch4534 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Its so sad, bc I love Journey.
    They're such a great band!

    • @brucesmith9144
      @brucesmith9144 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What Journey was once is not what it is today. They really should call it a career lest they sully the reputation they’ve built for 50 years.

  • @mikeso2084
    @mikeso2084 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    What does one even spend 10k on at a hotel?!

    • @brucesmith9144
      @brucesmith9144 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Per night. What is he spending it on?

    • @robert.m4676
      @robert.m4676 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s insane no doubt

    • @bigchickenfu
      @bigchickenfu หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      On Brown M&Ms.

    • @christinathein951
      @christinathein951 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Booger Sugar & High Class “Helpers”

    • @quix99
      @quix99 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its pretty easy to do

  • @RRob-pf4hp
    @RRob-pf4hp หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember years ago hearing that Schon didn't like the way Perry was picking the songs saying they were too soft while the band was packing the venues and selling tons of albums while getting rich. Schon has always wanted to just be a heavy metal guitarist, which he wasn't. I'm pretty sure that is a big part of why Steve Perry left the band.

  • @Hoglife
    @Hoglife 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am so glad I got the opportunity to see them at the Richfield Coliseum near Cleveland Ohio in 1985-1986,right before Steve left the band,I have never been to a concert that sounded so true and just about better that the studio albums,Amazing Show

    • @kathydigi3537
      @kathydigi3537 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Hoglife if only I was able to see him .

    • @Hoglife
      @Hoglife 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kathydigi3537 it was amazing

  • @basking_in_it
    @basking_in_it หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Of course Schon says it isn't true. Yet, he basically admitted it to the person who asked about it, saying he pays for it. Yes, Neal, but from WHAT account?

  • @samzach2057
    @samzach2057 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Neal Schon is a first class a hole!!!

  • @laurabee7358
    @laurabee7358 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I bet Steve’s only concern is getting his contractually agreed to residuals from the band when he left, but I’m sure he’s breathing a big sigh of relief he left long before this implosion (and others we didn’t hear of). I finally get why in the VH1 doc he said he never felt like he was truly part of the band- thought it was an odd statement at the time, makes total sense now.

  • @garyscharg2306
    @garyscharg2306 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Steve Lukather of Toto was supporting Journey on a recent tour and said they were traveling via private jet, but Toto was traveling via the much less expensive tour bus. Lukather said he will also always take up Ringo on his All Starr Band tour because it's fun, and that band travels via private jet. Very few music acts can afford to travel via private jet.

  • @slainteron4027
    @slainteron4027 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    good thing Perry, Valory, and the other older members don't have to deal with this any longer

  • @denisejaklitsch9505
    @denisejaklitsch9505 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Steve Perry - not Journey without his golden voice

  • @HARDLANDRocks
    @HARDLANDRocks หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Neal is obviously jealous of the fame always going to Steve Perry for giving Journey the million dollar voice and Jonathan Cain for writing the million dollar hits. That's gotta hurt Neal's fragile mind. Even Arnel helped them out being a great vocalist for the band, but he's being treated like shit. Arnel should get out and start his own band or find another great band to lend his voice to. 🤷‍♂️

  • @MrDJMikieMike
    @MrDJMikieMike หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Neal is and should be the owner of the band Journey, if it wasn’t for Steve Perry Journey would not be where they are today. Steve is completely out of this drama but one good thing is Steve is still receiving his pay 💰!!!

    • @fabianaalba3268
      @fabianaalba3268 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Definitely deserving Mr perry working Hurd for journey band already without Mr perry no more journey 😂😂😂😂

    • @wasatchm
      @wasatchm หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      sorry but journey never broke into superstardom until there ESCAPE ABLUM (where cain joined the band). so you might say. BIG DEAL, so he joined the band and played some keyboards. well, he may be the chief songwriter behind journey's biggest hits. it seemed to me more than half their biggest hits had keyboards as major part of the song (faithfully, don't stop believin, who's cryin now, etc). now, if cain didn't write any of the music, then I would agree with you. but I think he probably did. he wasn't the last one to put his mark on the song (a song that was mostly complete except for the keyboards). I think he was often the first. but I love schon. I am a guitar player. and there is no doubt he is a great songwriter to. but he's rock n roll. perry and cain where more of the POP rock type. very different. and I would say the pop rock focus is what pushed them to the top and kept them there.

    • @MrDJMikieMike
      @MrDJMikieMike หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@wasatchm I agree J. C. is a collaborator writing some of Journey’s Biggest Hits. But back then they all had each other’s 6 now it’s every man for himself, just look how they pushed Steve out of the Band. But Steve was one step ahead head of all them. Steve still gets paid and doesn’t have to worry about killing his vocal cords. All in all Steve was the smartest of them all.
      Since Steve left Journey hasn’t been the same and never had a Hit song. So J.C. may still be writing the songs but they aren’t going anywhere because they don’t have the Voice to sing them.

    • @lenaaustin6692
      @lenaaustin6692 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Steve Perry is now being compensating for his pain and suffering. NS is he still with the reality show wife? Well blessed be his ❤❤

    • @lenaaustin6692
      @lenaaustin6692 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Neal should have stuck with Jan Hammer

  • @5150StudioNorth
    @5150StudioNorth 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Neal Schon has ALWAYS been a shyster‼️

  • @stevelucero9047
    @stevelucero9047 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm sure Jon has a financial analyst on speed dial and has been tolerant of Neal's spending as long as it was covered by the revenue churn of the tour, after tour costs and Jon's cut. My bet is Neal is spending in excess of that...

    • @markriggs8371
      @markriggs8371 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s Neal’s band…..

    • @buddfoxx5955
      @buddfoxx5955 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you meant a forensic accountant. They chase down the money. FAs just analyze the corporation or trust's financial statements.

    • @stevelucero9047
      @stevelucero9047 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markriggs8371 - he never was the sole owner of Journey... and he still isn't..

    • @stevelucero9047
      @stevelucero9047 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@buddfoxx5955 - FA = Financial Analyst.

  • @nathueil1
    @nathueil1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Whenever I hear this story, I hear and see the video for Neils song No More Lies.

  • @davidarmitage289
    @davidarmitage289 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Neal doesn’t look the same anymore with all the money he has spent on plastic surgery.

  • @gospeltruthtv
    @gospeltruthtv หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sounds like we should all pitch in & buy Neal a session in the Dave Ramsey financial institute….it starts with a $1K emergency fund…2/3’s of his nightly hotel budget. 🙄 One of my best friends was an original member of Kansas, when they discovered that the limos & catered food came out of their nightly income, it was rental cars & Chick-fil-A from then on! 👍🤣

  • @peterm4486
    @peterm4486 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    And Deen should hook backup with the guys from Generation Radio…the best album I’ve heard in years!

  • @cassiehowder9782
    @cassiehowder9782 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Steve Perry is probably so glad he doesn’t need to deal with this hot mess

  • @cowboy68
    @cowboy68 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The journey through time was short lived when Greg Rollie said Neil screwed him over 100 grand. And is suing him as well

    • @ptlatham7488
      @ptlatham7488 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad to hear it! Neal used him to promote sales, and short talks with Rollie coming back to Journey in Austin during the Anniversary tour! Then left town and Rollie!

  • @CLAelev1
    @CLAelev1 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sounds a bit like a drug or gambling issue.

  • @RyanG13
    @RyanG13 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if Cain, Castronovo, Vallory, and Steve Perry got back together, teamed up with a great guitarist (who wasn't Neil Schon), and attempted to form a new band with a Journey-Esque sort of feel, with different songs. Not re-performing the old orig. stuff, but new stuff. Just breaking off from Journey altogether, to find a more cohesive sound, built with a familiar sort of brotherhood, and mutual respect towards each other? Anyone out there remember when some of the band member of Boston, went in together & created the band RTZ (Return to Zero CD)? Yes I know it was 1 album (I think, it was 1 that was put out anyway). Even though it didn't work out long term, it was still pretty awesome to listen to, I still have the cd somewhere. Over the years, it seems that the common problem has been Neil Schon, so maybe take him out of the equation, go back to basics. Hell maybe if not Cain or Castronovo, then what about Dunbar or Rolie? I've always thought it would be so freaking cool, to have the best of the best form a band, make new albums, & see how it would sound with a little bit of everything. Yes, I'm a Gen X'r, and YES, I MISS the original music. But maybe if they were to form something new, by putting egos and bygones aside, I would be so intrigued on what that would sound like. Just my 2 cents & thoughts. Thanks for the vid

    • @liedgitarrist
      @liedgitarrist 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Amen!

    • @Limited_Light
      @Limited_Light 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Please, no more Cain and his wife Paula.

  • @billypappyeaton3504
    @billypappyeaton3504 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    they should have Retired years ago..............

  • @chrisclayton584
    @chrisclayton584 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I sense a breakup coming very soon.

  • @SJ-ty5rw
    @SJ-ty5rw หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This would explain why he sold his main stratocaster he used on the Infinity album . And almost every other iconic guitar he used on Escape and Frontiers .

  • @MrJeffRomm
    @MrJeffRomm หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m a huge Journey fan and have been for decades. I’ve always respected and appreciated the incredible talent in the band. But Neal’s reputation has preceded him for as long as I can remember. Some people just have a tough time handling fame. At this point in time, it shouldn’t affect my opinion of him or the band. But sadly, it kinda does. Like Don Henley and so many others, there comes a point when you have to stop and ask yourself, how much more money or notoriety do I really need? They shouldn’t have anything more to prove. Just enjoy your success and your place in music history. Chill the hell out and be a decent person. But I guess that’s too much to ask from him.

  • @ObeseCaligula
    @ObeseCaligula หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Steve Perry was a great singer.

  • @twilitetide
    @twilitetide 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really hope it's true that every single time one of the songs Perry co-wrote is used live, he gets a cut. Dunno if that's true but hope so. It's more than fair as a cowriter and it was Perry's magic that rolled in the millions. He left and took the light with him. Can't believe these guys are in their 60s, 70s or whatever and spend their time bickering. (And Schon's face wtf he looks like an alien - just sayin' Perry is natural and still a handsome guy. He's well out of the mess).

  • @hnguye22
    @hnguye22 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This riff in the band, after they kicked out Steve Perry. Schon is the head case.

  • @fritztheman749
    @fritztheman749 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When I pro musicianed in Los Angeles in the late 80s I ran into Neil with John Waite and Jonathan Cain. that was the beginning of the bad English days. I told my guitar player as we walked away, Neil is an ass. My buddy said why don’t you go back and kick his ass? I said yeah that would turn out well for me…. speaking of lawsuits.

  • @johnhead6116
    @johnhead6116 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just think how Schon would react legally if Perry put a band together that started playing old Journey hits :)

  • @LauraRoberts-ed9nj
    @LauraRoberts-ed9nj หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Journey is Awesome.I watch them on You Tube everyday.The Gregg Rollie days the Jonathan Cain days.I love Neal but Journey was done to me without Steve Perry.Period.❤I hate Karaoke 😂😂

    • @rainefrancisco4137
      @rainefrancisco4137 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let me hear you sing, Steve Perry is awesome but to call the current lead singer “karaoke” is a huge disrespect to Arnel, grow up man child and give credit where credit is due🤪

  • @dennisgoodnight2029
    @dennisgoodnight2029 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    These guys fight and argue more than my ex and I.

  • @skyemoz6559
    @skyemoz6559 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think he’s maxing out on more plastic surgeries He looks very bizarre these days

  • @crazywisdom2
    @crazywisdom2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Find out. Do another VID on what Neal is actually doing with the money. This is insane. There's always ONE person that's gonna F up a good thing. Crazy !!

  • @eternalwreck
    @eternalwreck หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im literally about to see them next week man for the first time I hope they can stick out the tour!

    • @TheBlindAndTheBeautiful
      @TheBlindAndTheBeautiful หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From a big Journey fan (Arnel era included)... Def Leppard's the easy winner on that tour. Your in for a treat with them. One of the best held up bands from the 80s which is crazy considering the amount of substance abuse there. Also some of the genuinely nicest guys to work around or interact with, but thats a story for a different day

    • @TheBlindAndTheBeautiful
      @TheBlindAndTheBeautiful หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As a Journey fan (Arenel era included)... Def Leppard's the shining part of that tour man. They are easily the best 80s band holding up today sound and stability wise. Like you'd think boos and drugs would have destroyed them. But they are strong as ever! You may have a shot with Journey being good or not depending on the night and how pissed they are at each other. Def Leppard will make up for it all I promise you that much

    • @carriekoehler1986
      @carriekoehler1986 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@TheBlindAndTheBeautiful you're right. I saw Journey in St Louis, the first stop on the tour. Johnathan Cain looked angry, not his happy self. And that was the first stop on the tour. Hopefully they make it all the way

    • @anthonytrader4666
      @anthonytrader4666 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are gonna finish the stadium tour but have already canceled their fall UK tour. I think its the end after the stadium tour. There is only about 12-15 shows left

  • @anthonyalexander7246
    @anthonyalexander7246 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Over 50 years of music and now petty bickering over money, sad

  • @davidrhee9160
    @davidrhee9160 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Schon sees everyone as replaceable. Sad. Steve p, Steve s, Ross v, and jonathan Cain should start their own band without schon.

  • @jayedwards3122
    @jayedwards3122 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    And to think, prior to this latest development, you actually had people backing schon over cain basically because of his faith and his wife's connection to trump. Not even bothering to examine the facts of the matter. If this doesnt clearly give you a picture of who's the one bottling it over in Journey, nothing will.

  • @chriswoosley1697
    @chriswoosley1697 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Its Schon...."shawn"...not SHONE

    • @seatstitcher3636
      @seatstitcher3636 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s been informed of this several times, in every video he makes about this band. But he continues to pronounce it that way.

    • @chriswoosley1697
      @chriswoosley1697 หลายเดือนก่อน

      plus he has TERRIBLE voice for broadcasting/public speaking,..all lethargic sounding,...and that drawl🤠🤠🙄😴

  • @damonsdeliberatedetour492
    @damonsdeliberatedetour492 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love Neal's playing he is an amazing guitar player hands down. That said he does seem to be the one who posts New Cars, Guitars and various other spending. That is not a crime to do but when you are locked in a you spend too much money case maybe tone it down!

  • @stevegardiner8473
    @stevegardiner8473 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, I can tell you that cancelling a UK and Ireland tour isn't going to do a lot for their reputation. Seems they managed to do the dates the other side of the Atlantic. Thanks Journey.

  • @azrocker06
    @azrocker06 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is interesting this past week. Journey canceled their UK, European tour with no information being released to why.
    Could it be because this internal strife is true, or is it some other factors.
    It is sad because Cain and Schon have had a great friendship and musical career, and it is getting torn apart. They need group therapy.

  • @rrip1527
    @rrip1527 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Of all of the Journey cover bands, this one is one of the best

    • @johnlacy5993
      @johnlacy5993 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not a cover band. They’ve produced albums. Steve is missed but it’s still Journey. Hats off to Steve for predicting the future. For years Neal was my favorite…

    • @robertwadas
      @robertwadas หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@johnlacy5993 When people heard "Oh Sherry" they thought it was Journey until they were told is was just steve. Do you think they would sell any tickets unless they found someone who sounded like Steve Perry ? The Band that is playing is just a Replica of Steve Perry.
      How many hits have they had since Steve left ?
      It would be the same as if Rush had replaced Getty Lee with a sound-a like. Queen changed its name to Queen Extravaganza.. Maybe Bon Jovi could go on tour without Jon Bon Jovi...lol..
      When you find a singer to duplicate a bands lead singer.. it is a cover. The new Journey singer could do just as well without any of the other members if he had the legal rights to the name and went out on tour calling his band Journey.

    • @rrip1527
      @rrip1527 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @johnlacy5993 If they aren't a cover band then Neal Schon shouldn't have spent so much time, energy, & money looking for a Steve Perry clone. He should have just stuck with Greg Rollie, of whom I am a fan. I'm just not a fan of Neal Schon. The world is full of guitarists who could take his place.

  • @bb-gc2tx
    @bb-gc2tx หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    journey is more corporation then a band now saw them few years ago one of worst concerts ever been to they were just going through the motions

  • @jimmccullough4923
    @jimmccullough4923 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    when Journey started it was all about great music...now it's just about money. Screw them all....they all suck.

  • @johnnypk1963
    @johnnypk1963 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Remind me when was the last time Journey wrote a hit?

    • @cheetohead6942
      @cheetohead6942 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ask steve perry, that's why he's at home racking in money and staying out of the drama

    • @chrisburrelljr9270
      @chrisburrelljr9270 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Early 90s I believe

    • @montana47261
      @montana47261 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Way We Used To Be 2021 !

    • @user-uc3qs1gx2d
      @user-uc3qs1gx2d หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      1996 When u love a woman with Perry

    • @jeffjohnson9108
      @jeffjohnson9108 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hots for rock bands are over. It’s a Taylor Swift, Beyoncé world now.

  • @louisebankston9766
    @louisebankston9766 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Journey is done.....

  • @jefftipton2470
    @jefftipton2470 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If the band ends Neal will be in the poor house

  • @jenb9274
    @jenb9274 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    PLEASE …Neal SHAWN! your the only one in the industry who mispronounces his last name. I love your channel though:)

    • @jrnyfan_57
      @jrnyfan_57 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's definitely annoying!!!

    • @cy8919
      @cy8919 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're, not your (the only one in the industry). And yes, it's pronounced like, Shawn.

  • @PickettMusic
    @PickettMusic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw Def Lep & Journey back in 2018. Even then, you had guys like Arnel, Ross & Steve Smith working to put on a cool show...and I suppose Neil & Jonathan Cain were too...but there was a real kind of chilly vibe compared to Def Lep. Reminded me of seeing Van Halen in 04. You could just feel like guys were just up there trying to get things done, and at odds...

  • @Derrick6162
    @Derrick6162 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They should retire and call it a day. Journey was a great band, but it is only a shell of its former self.

  • @kenthhamner2641
    @kenthhamner2641 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They haven’t done any new material iirc since.

  • @leavemealone8336
    @leavemealone8336 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't even want to see them now, but I can't wait for Arnels Journey!!

  • @pinkiewerewolf
    @pinkiewerewolf 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If it's Schon's own money paying for his things then there is no issue. If the band has a structured system and an account that the money comes from then there is a big issue.

  • @jonmaier124
    @jonmaier124 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got to see them back in April I enjoyed it this was before I knew what was going on it was a Christmas present for the concert before my bday

  • @RandyFricke
    @RandyFricke หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These two need to get a room already.
    But in all seriousness, being in a band is harder than being in a marriage. Lots of politics afoot.

  • @danielkruse2830
    @danielkruse2830 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You are looking at people who haven’t lived like most of us do. Old spoiled brats who need to retire. Journey is a has been band. It’s time boys; just call it quits. If Aerosmith can do it, so can you.

  • @adrydiaz6899
    @adrydiaz6899 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ahora comprendo más a Steve Perry por qué lo desmotivaron en la banda .no lo valoraron 😢❤❤

  • @jamesgeorge65
    @jamesgeorge65 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think it’s to the point where Neal Schon may be mentally ill. Jonathan should work out an agreement with Schon where they split up and both tour separately. You know, Neal Schon’s Journey and Jonathan Cain’s Journey. If that happens, Neal would be broke in a month. Then, it’ll be back to o e Journey again.

    • @vixstert.5642
      @vixstert.5642 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think it's Neil's wife who causes him to make bad decisions. Do a search on her... she came with a lotta baggage.

    • @cdglasser
      @cdglasser 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vixstert.5642 Like Cain's wife isn't a complete nutjob herself. For that matter, so is Cain.

  • @monicaprice2307
    @monicaprice2307 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How should be interpret the statement, "BS...... I pay for it"? That seems to me to be a confession. I don't know, Schon has seemed like a tyrant for a few decades. Were the allegations against Ross Valory and Steve Smith even anything? Schon and Cain are all that's left of the members we initially fell in love with. It doesn't seem to me to be a fluke.

  • @TooPrettyForPrison
    @TooPrettyForPrison 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Retirement is a great option. I grew up a massive fan of journey. I’m still a fan of journeys music prayer to 2000. But at this point, I will literally would not go to a concert of theirs if I got free front row tickets and VIP treatment. It’s a karaoke band and has become a shit show.

  • @Takaichi666-
    @Takaichi666- หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Has this band ever gotten along??

  • @victorgalindo7026
    @victorgalindo7026 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    And these are the two guys used to give Steve hell about having his own limo or tour bus and these are the same two saying about Steve that Elvis has left the building, well now the whole world knows why Steve didn't want to be around these two BEOTCH's while on tour !!!! They have really destroyed the name Journey.

  • @synthonaplinth5980
    @synthonaplinth5980 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gregg, you got out before things got bad.

  • @sfsandman4489
    @sfsandman4489 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    wa wa wa 😢. I can’t stay in a cheap 4 star hotel I need 5. Com’on. Both these guys have to be multi millionaires for decades. Enjoy the last few years you have left. I don’t really care because it’s not the real journey anyway it’s a tribute band with I original member. I’m pretty sure they get the red carpet treatment everywhere they go. Lmaorotg

  • @Telluridepilot
    @Telluridepilot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    $ 10,000 a night on a hotel room per night ?!? If the bootie performs better in a 10g a night room than in a 1g a night room then he needs to find cheaper bootie and save a ton of money. Michaella is a gold miner for sure. I read she spends tens of thousands of dollars a month on fresh roses. He’s just P whipped and so I’d Johnathan Cain though. His Reverend Gitmo Dinero wife of his.

  • @lenaaustin6692
    @lenaaustin6692 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Neal Schon he was 17 years old he was at Woodstock and in Santana. Oye Como va. At leat black magic woman. Top 5 guitarist. Carlos Santana could easily be top 5 unless you think Neal Schon has had more sales more hits more versatile and a mentor to NS the fledgling guitar player. Mho

  • @michaeldavis6607
    @michaeldavis6607 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You can look at Neal’s plastic face and know where his heart is. Plus he couldn’t write a hit song if his life depended on it. He isn’t a singer either. He’s a great guitarist and that’s it. They should have kept perry and bounced Neal imo.

  • @t_bone12571
    @t_bone12571 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm surprised they're not arguing over Bad English royalties too, the band did sell quite a lot of copies of the first album (did they do any more??). Maybe that's a whole other lawsuit.

    • @BBaldwin
      @BBaldwin หลายเดือนก่อน

      I doubt that album produces anything of note noways. Probably hasn’t in decades.

    • @t_bone12571
      @t_bone12571 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BBaldwin Probably not. The royalties have likely dried up, though at this stage I wouldn't put it past those two to fight about the album (Schon and Cain) since they're involved with its creation & they're currently in a litigious mood.

  • @lindasmith3978
    @lindasmith3978 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🙏 for Journey to resolve this snag and continue!

  • @JoshAintSoCool
    @JoshAintSoCool หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What amenities come with a 10k a night hotel room? Mints on the pillows? Already cracked open pistachios?

    • @OrieCipollaro
      @OrieCipollaro หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2 blondes a red head and an Asian

  • @Stevedrums741
    @Stevedrums741 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Having nothing to base this on as I know no one in the band, but my gut says that Cain is probably more correct than not.

  • @oasis2
    @oasis2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope they can work this all out. Love this band. Keep working on it...life is too short.

  • @frederickwarren4158
    @frederickwarren4158 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Common denominator in every other members problems - Neal Schon!

  • @jamest.7589
    @jamest.7589 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sad to see one of my childhood bands still fighting over money. Figure it out guys you're too old for this.

  • @JohnSmith-ue3xm
    @JohnSmith-ue3xm 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sad but common tale ... Cain and Schon run off Perry, Smith, and Vallory then go after each other. SMH tons of talent but the magic chemistry is so diluted that Journey stopped being Journey when that lineup unraveled and all that's left is a better than average cover band ... you guys should rename your act or hang your hats up. Journey's music belongs to the fans now

  • @susansmith3896
    @susansmith3896 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't imagine the other 3 members, having to sing and perform, knowing what's going on.

  • @barrykarpowich731
    @barrykarpowich731 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    STEVE,MISS YOUR VOICE ,MR SCHON YOU LOOK LIKE EDDY MUNSTER NOW THAT YOU GOT YOUR NOSE DONE 😂😂