Arnel once said he’d love to see Journey reunite with Steve Perry. He’d gladly step aside. This guy has no bad blood. Journey is lucky to have found him.
that will never happen. by the time steve was 40 he could no longer sing like when he was in his 30's. arnel at 56 can still sing journey songs in its original key for the last 16 years day in day out.
@@minavamp2811 Not true. Arnel never really possessed the full vocal capabilities of Steve Perry in his prime. Why do you think he gets Deen to sing Mother, Father along with a few others instead of doing them himself? Arnel is an outstanding vocalist but there is only one "Steve Perry" and nobody will be able to sing with that soulful wonder the way he was able to.
@@dougprentice1363 I must be missing something. That post showed on the video never mentioned Arnel from what I could tell so why did he think he was the one being accused?
@@gamersinger5118fact is fact. steve voice was good when he was in his 30's. in his 40's his voice has regressed significantly. you can hear a clear different in his voice when he did his last album with journey in 1986 (at 37) and came back to journey in 1997 (at 47) his voice no longer has the clarity and the range. by then he could no longer sing journey earlier songs. amel now at 56 can still sing journey entire song catalog live day in day out on tour in original keys. steve can never do that.
@@minavamp2811 I was referring to when Steve Perry was at his peak obviously. Of course Arnel has lasted longer. A different time and Arnel doesn't push himself the way Steve always did back in the 80's. There was too much money on the line back then and no way around it. Steve often even sang when he was sick. Of course that would break a voice down. I was comparing prime to prime. You can't compare a 50 something year old to a 70 something year old. 20 years is a big difference. Touring is handled quite a bit differently these days compared to those that Steve and Journey toured in. Deen Castronovo has a better conditioned voice than both at this point if we are being honest and he is older than Arnel by a few years.
Arnel is such a humble dude. There was a documentary about him joining the band and the rest of the band all shared in the band’s success while Arnel was given a basic paycheck. They treated him like an employee. The whole reason they’re drawing a crowd is because they found Arnel and he’s singing his heart out.
I saw them last night and when Neal and Jonathan came out people cheered but when Arnel came out the place erupted like I’ve never heard, people like him and they should realize he’s worth saving if they wanna continue.
After that documentary came out, they had a whole new market. He sings just as good a Steve Perry, but in the Philippines there are so many amazing singers.
Arnel could go to other hands and be appreciated they treated Steve the same without Steve or you they would be nothing. They won't find a replacement but you could work with so many other bands that would appreciate you. Kinda the same thing with Bon Jovi losing Richie they were very lucky to find a replacement
That's crazy! I've met Arnel away from a music venue, he is hands down the nicest guy, super down to earth. The fact that he's saying stuff on social media tells how bad the issue are. Wow!
Yeah, and I think they are also insecured by Steve Perry's talent and well-produced musics. He can do music on his own without Journey. Look at him now. He is free in doing what he likes when it comes in composing and singing his own sound.
@@HisHimmer He's had solo albums so that's not true at all. Journey wouldn't be where they're are now if it wasn't for the new sound that Steve brought to the band when he joined the band.
The fact that the wife has the nerve to say someone forgot where they came from is flabbergasting. She hasn't played a single note in the band and has only reaped the rewards earned by all of the current and former members. She's forgotten where she came from.
Well it's true Journey saved him. Arnel was living like a poor rat waiting to die from starvation when he got plucked by Journey. He needs to stop being arrogant because hed be dead by now from extreme poverty and famishment if he wasn't given a chance
Neil Schon's wife has a nerve!!!! Girl, why can't you just be a refined, educated, and decent human being, and just enjoy what JOURNEY BAND provides for you??? UNGRATEFUL!!!!!
Yeah, I can't stand here for a while.That was always on his site.All these always super lovey Davey pictures.It's great if they're in love but kind of Sickening. She was the lady with the heavy looking. Dude, that? She was married to I forget. I think they're trying to go to some event at the White House and they snuck their way in. And after that is when she got with Neil.
Her first husband's name, was Tareq Salahi and she left him to re-unite with Neil; which also broke up his marriage and he was still a newlywed of 2 months. Women like this, are so selfish and don't care who they hurt.😮 Reminds me of when Yoko Ono caused chaos for the BEATLES and broke up John Lennon's marriage, so that she could have him for herself.
@@veronicazawodniak561 I feel he is fine playing local in the PH tbh. He’s not money hungry and appreciate being a part of Journey. He would be content playing for a small venue, at home.
@@jessicaal415 Whatever makes him joyous! I don't know or met him. But, he seems to have a beautiful soul. Along with a beautiful voice. He doesn't need that constant disrespect on his soul. God bless him
@@chrisc9200 Nobody is claiming that mimicking or impersonating a legendary singer is a “cake walk” but yourself. He is a hired gun to mimic the best. He did not contribute to the band in anyway that would come close to Perry’s own contributions to the band during his tenure. He needs to move on and create his own stamp. Otherwise, he will be forgotten in a very short time. If you had seen both live you then could compare the different, but obviously you haven’t, except on video, which is not the same. And I have every right to voice my opinions. Now, start singing Chris.
I also remember during their rock n roll hall of fame inductee they never acknowledged arnel or even thank him for what he does for journey. but only steve perry and steve smith who acknowledged arnel.
While Arnel is extremely talented ... I can only agree with your statement that Journey died when Steve Perry left. I love Neil Schon's work, he's a phenomenal guitarist ... But he's a bit of a diva too.
@@hyena61 Arnel did revive the band. Not close to the same extent as during Steve, but if it wasn't for Arnel honoring the legacy they'd be history at this point.
IKR. I really don't follow this band anymore, so it's weird recalling hearing about how they found this guy and it was a life-changing experience for him, and them. Fast forward 20(?) years later, he's had enough of them.
@@edrohrbacher1678 I'd say they owe him as much as he owes them. I doubt they would have had the recent resurgence they've enjoyed with anyone else's voice but Pineda's or Perry's himself.
@@fleatactical7390 I saw them on multiple tours with Steve Augeri in packed arenas, so I'm going to disagree. Also, Deen Castronovo sings better.... While playing the drums
The original Journey before Steve Perry was the same story. Steve Perry put Journey on his back and carried them to the fame they have period. The original members always seemed to be jealous of Perry and now I see that continues. They need to get over themselves and be thankful to have had the careers they have had and be glad they owe it to others.
Neil and John seemed to be quietly jealous of Steve's brilliance. They especially Neil always wanted to be the focus of attention. Not classy like Steve always was.
The problem here is Niel’s wife butting in and instigating drama. Musicians should never let their GF’s or wives become involved with the band’s personal business. Hopefully these guys can sort all their issues and continue making/playing music.
When I was in the army I had a friend who was discharged because he didn't salute the wife of an officer. She was driving his car with the officer's rank on the window. While it is true that the rule was to salute the rank, he saw it wasn't the officer who was driving. She stopped the car and got his info. Clearly she was an entitled little tyrant who thought his rank extended to her. This sounds very similar. Mind your place if you're not the person who earned it.
@@rickfortine7454 Go to any Karoke club at night or someone birthday party or better yet a club where most have people covering US Songs from the 70 to 90's era, they sound just like US Singer. I have seen a guy called Phil Albit he sounds just like Kenny Rogers, there was a blind chick who sounded just like Karen carpenter, they are excellent at memic US singers.
I'm an old guy now, I loved the Gregg Rolie era of Journey, lots of great memories flood my mind when I hear those songs. Gregg has a warm, hearty voice and killer keyboards. Then when Steve came in, both of their vocals paired together was magical. Bring Gregg back.
You don’t owe them nothing, you gave your sincere heart and good soul to the band, you’ve done a great great job Arnel. What ever happens we believed in you and we will support you. We love you and thank you for showing your talent to the whole world❤️🇵🇭
the fact that Steve doesn't want a reunion decades ago and Jeff supported Arnel not to mention that they already have 5 different vocalist means only one thing. This band's management had serious issues.
I am actually thinking about that. Despite of their downfalls and huge success, there always having issues within their fences. And I think you're right on that point.
THANKS ARNEL for stepping up too the mic,and keeping the music alive,you know how STEVE FEELS,you know,your vocals are in the groove,nite after nite,the show went on because of you,the man on the mic IS THE MAN
Journey has been at each other's throats for decades. Arnel is a kind soul and deserves 0% of this shite storm he's been dragged into. During the 80's Journey had infighting problems, they would mend fences the go right back at it.
Been a Journey fan since the late 1970's. Arnel has been the lead singer of the band the longest. He deserves respect and quite honestly, his voice is the only thing that is keeping the current journey lineup alive. Without him Neal can blow it out his ass. If I was Arnel, I would retire a rich man and live the rest of my life back in the Philippines. He did a great job.
Yes; he’s good but Greg Rollie started the Band with Neal while still playing with Santana!! Co-Founders should never be dismissed!! Greg played with Steve his 1st year!! Let’s face it Neal is a Heavier Rock Guitarist & to me one of the Best I have ever seen live 🎸🎵
Steve was 1977-1998 and Arnel is 2007-2023. Steve is still longer so you need to correct your comment right now, apologize , and never let it happen again.
@@cba4389 nooooo your wrong. Steve was not the lead singer all those years straight, He was replaced in between those years by other singers. So get your shit straight
According to the internet Arnel Pineda has a net worth right now of 20 million...He certainly could afford to retire and live like a king in the Philippines if he wanted to.
Neil Schon is the biggest problem, it’s his ego and controlling nature that has got Journey into its present turmoil. Arnel has done a fabulous job and gave Journey a new lease of life when he joined.
Agreed. Is the tour really called Neal Schön & Journey 50th Anniversary Freedom Tour? If so, good grief. Given their situation at the time, despite the circumstances, Schön owes a lot to Arnel for giving the band another chance.
Arnel has been a Godsend to Journey and us all for years! The show I saw at the Hollywood Bowl a decade ago was unbelievable, what a compliment and talent like none other 🙌🏻⚡️❤️🎶🙏🏻
Never a Journey fan until Arnel joined. It was such a great story and he turned out to be a nice guy along with his talent. Journey has some of my money now just because of Arnel.
Arnel deserves great things. He’s got a hell of a voice and he has the charisma. He’s a wonderful performer, he deserves much much better. Too bad to see this happening to him after all this time and all the bs with the other singers. Arnel is a 1 in a billion chance, the odds of them finding a guy as good as he is was slim to start with.
If fired, at this point, Arnel could form his own Journey tribute band and keep touring and playing to decently-sized crowds for the next 10 years. He'd be his own boss and could create a positive atmosphere for his whole band.
@Timothy A. Olmeda Yeah, that would be great too, even better. He already releases his own music as is. My point was that he's set up well to be his own boss for a post-Journey career if he does get fired. I'm baffled at why you'd read into my comment and imply that what I really meant was that Arnel lacked talent. It sounds like you're just picking a fight. I'm a big fan and supporter of Arnel and I'm sure virtually everybody reading my first comment and this one would understand that. Your comment sounds like it's coming out of left field.
@@alexanderlyon Funny, I wasn’t implying anything about your comment other than he should just go about on his own. Though I don’t think he would fair well because he has yet to prove himself a great songwriter, though that could be arranged by an outside source. My personal experiences with his singing has nothing to do with your opinions at all. It has nothing to do with “picking a fight” no more than you praising him for his particular talents. It’s called an opinion. My opinion stems from the experience of witnessing every singer Journey has had, except for the years Greg Rolie was their sole vocalist for the album’s Journey, Look into the Future, and shared vocals with Perry on his debut on the Next album, Infinity, Evolution and Departure. Those whom have witnessed the band during these years would have the best understanding of whom actually was the better singer, the best replacement, and whether someone is as great as people claim. Experience means everything. I was lucky enough to capture these performances, whether it was my intentions or not. At the same time, I haven’t been seriously into the band once Steve Perry left, and it died even more when Greg Rolie left, even more so after Steve Smith left, and eventually when Ross Valory had left. The eventual slow death process of elimination of Journey has definitely changed the essence of what Journey was, and has only become a heart monitor awaiting its final tick. The band could only truly reestablish itself once again to that status with a true reunion like it had done before, and with a well deserved retirement along with it. On the bands 50th anniversary this year, based on the rumors and lawsuits, this most likely will not take place. What a shame.
Neal Schon’s wife was the woman who snuck into a whitehouse dinner uninvited with her husband then left him the min Neal looked her way. That should tell you all you need to know about those people.
Jonathan Cain’s wife is/was Trumps spiritual leader. You know the lady who was summoning angels from Africa…..that crazy lady lol If you don’t know what I’m talking about look up Paula White on TH-cam
That woman is toxic. Neal had Ross Vallory and Steve Smith fired from what I recall as well. He needs an ego check since he’s alienating everyone. What a douchebag.
Arnel is such a down-to-earth, humble and very likeable person. Without his saying or claiming it, it was Arnel's golden voice and character that resurrected the Journey band. Neil came across Arnel in 60 youtube videos covering songs of various artists/bands, namely: Journey, Freddie Mercury, Bon Jovi, Bryan Adams, Toto, Guns and Roses, Chicago, Survivor, Aerosmith, Leed Zeppelin, Police, Air Supply, Eagles, Steve Miller Band, Kenny Loggins, Stryper, Roxette, Cheap Trick, Skylark, Heart, etc. Arnel has established a foundation in the Philippines, helping a lot of people. Also, he has made investments that he'll secure his long-term financial independence, and one of them is his Rockville resto which consistently attracts large crowds. I believe that he can make a world tour singing all by himself or with a few of of the best Filipino singers, and make it big. If offered to be the front man man old an famous band that wants to get back on the world stage, he'll probably accept it if the terms are right and fair.
Steve was never the problem with the group! He just got tired of the jealousy and selfishness of the other guys! Sometimes you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone!
We all love Steve Perry but at this point, even if he is still with the band, I don’t think he can carry out the load of singing all those high note songs day in day out, especially when they are on tour.
I've only recently discovered Arnel as Journey's vocalist and he's great. Sucks so much that so many of these older bands just vitriolically hate each other for something that probably happened 30 years ago.
This has been going on with the current line-up of Journey over political divisity issues,with half of the band members being Donald Trump fans(/supporters) and Neal Schon being anti-Trump as they should focus more on their celebration tour and their music instead of their personal beliefs(both political and personal) and their personal feelings.
Me too. I didn’t know Journey still toured until last year let alone had a new vocalist. I bought tickets and saw them last year. He sounded amazing live to my surprise. This is very sad to hear he’s quitting. 😢
@@AT-bt2co He's not new though as he's now been with them for 16 years, great singer! I'm looking forward to them coming back to the UK so I can see them again.
Arnel is such a great vocalist. I remember seeing all the viral videos when he was first found. It is sad that he is getting caught up in all this old drama between the other bandmates.
Now I understand why Steve walked away from journey. I took my 10 year old twins to see them on their 50th tour and I was blown away. It was so good I felt sad in the morning because it was over. I’m very excited that I got to see them in person and to share the experience with my boys. It’s unfortunate they are going down this pass. Honestly after this tour they should retire and enjoy life.
I can't believe that this is happening to Journey they are one of the best bands on earth. Arnel deserves better than this he's one of a kind I hope they can work things out before things really go bad
Unfortunately when bands get up there in years, members start bickering back and forth about something, especially when there are still original members or long time members of said band.
Sadly it's already there. They destroyed their legacy by Greed! So sad...they made plenty of money. Arnel should break away gracefully. And start a new band with Steve Perry.
Camp Schon and Camp Cain should be ashamed of themselves bringing the level down to that of a 2 year old. They don’t appreciate the fans or their lead singer who took on the impossible task to sing Steve Perry material. It’s a disgrace to see them air their dirty laundry in public. Keep the Yoko Ono’s of it away from it all, zip it and cut the BS to bow to the fans of 50 years. Is that simple task too damn hard on Schon and Cain?
ARNEL, STAND YOUR GROUND... DON'T LET THEM BULLY YOU... TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITH JOURNEY THIS LONG & TO TAKE THEIR CRAP... THAT IS SO BS... JOURNEY WOULDN'T BE AROUND WITHOUT YOU. YOU HAVE REVIVED JOURNEY. & YOU SURE GAVE IT WITH ALL YOU HEART. TAKE CARE & GOD BLESS YOU, BRO
They've been doing this for 50 years. I think it's safe to say they don't need anyone......I'm sure they are all set for life and if they never did another show, they'd be fine.
I was an 80's teenager and I'm shocked at the teenage shit that these bands go through. Then again, we all know why it happens, right? Ego and narcissism, period!!!
I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one tired of all of Journey's petty back and forth drama! I feel vindicated now that Arnel has even come to that point.
You're the man, kabayan! You continue what Steve started. Stay humble and let them be. If they can't appreciate what you've done, of what you're doing, it's their problem, not yours. You have nothing more to prove. You are among the greats! Mabuhay po at pagpalain, kabayan!
Has anyone noticed or mentioned that all of this drama seems to have begun with the entrance of the 'infamous' white house crasher? She seems to be right at the center of everything.
@Lisa Hodge her and Cain’s ‘pastor’ 😒wife are the origins and reasons of all of this drama. I am pro woman. But I’m also deeply pro human and pro art and music. ‘Wives’ and ‘girl-toys’ of musicians need to stay the hell out of the business. Period. That means recording studio, record company, and touring. Unless the woman is legit-straight-up knowledgeable in music, performing, set and costume design and or is in the business, she needs to stay in her lane.
@@leahwestrum6875 AMEN !! Yoko all over again! Anyone who comes from Houseeives of NJ and crashed White House events has a lot of balls but NO business lecturing anyone about Spiritual matters even if she is wife number 5! Stay off social media! As for Arnel, hang in there, they need you more than you need them! You go… and there’s no shoe!
@Susan Hunter very true Susan; Schon and Cain need to tell their ‘girl-toys’ to sit down and STHU. These c*nts aren’t in the band, have not written or contributed any songs, music, or lyrics; have nothing to do and therefore have NO business in the Industry. And yet they feel the need to but in. Why, you say? Money, straight up. Greed is the ultimate destruction of all good alliances. As well as egos and entitled b*tch syndrome.
true that! Her posts are BS to me, especially how she refer to Arnel as "the other guy in the band". Well, excuse me! That "other guy" is the reason why Journey is still able to cash in big bucks. If not for him, Journey is dead!
Can you imagine being able to take over singing for your favorite band and tour the globe and they are so petty that you don’t care if you get fired or not?
I went to one of their shows and you can’t even hear Arnel sing because Neal has to have his guitar playing be the main focus. It was so bad we walked out after the 2nd song. I’ll never waste my money again.
Which is rather ironic, because back in high school (first half of the 1980's - Journey's high water mark), when I listened to their music and before I really knew their history I enjoyed them, but certainly never thought the guitar player was anything exceptional. To me they were an extremely successful pop group with some cool musical flourishes that set them apart from their pop contemporaries - but the guitar was an obligatory afterthought; I was much more impressed with the vocals and Steve Smith on drums (I am a drummer though, so I recognize my own bias there). Sure, they guitar leads were tasty and fit in well, but compared to other much more guitar-heavy bands of the era Journey was just average. As I've gotten older, I certainly appreciate Schon's talent and contributions much more than I did then. That said, to play armchair psychiatrist (with all of the qualifications normally associated with that position - none, to be specific) but I truly think he suffers from his own ego and the fact that Journey was originally created largely to be a vehicle for him - that it didn't really pan out that way (despite or perhaps because of their tremendous mainstream success) he's in someways a bit insecure and as such overcompensates by being something of a control freak. It's too bad, because when I finally saw them (probably six or seven years ago), they really played well, it's unfortunate that egos so often drive the trajectories of bands.
@@AndreySloan_is_a_cnut Wow, you read it the way I did too. Neil is a decent guitar player, but without a Steve, or an Arnel, to reproduce that "sound", he's just another one of many guitar players. I'm not sure the word 'humble' is in his vocabulary.
Too bad these issues happen in bands, Arnel is a very good singer! He is not however Steve Perry, he was a great kareoke singer who got very lucky when discovered by Neal Schon. If he does quit the band I wish him the best.
@@robbiddlecombe8392 I've seen both as well, and Arnell does sound exactly like Steve 90% of the time. If you listen to Steve's versions of certain songs that require the highest notes at certain points in the songs and then listen to Arnel's versions....Arnel can't quite hit that highest note that Steve could in his prime. Of course Steve couldn't hit it now either.
Arnel is an AMAZING vocalist and performer. They really hit the jackpot when they found him. A talent like his is literally one in a few million. They should hold on to him.
Without Steve Perry old song of Journey Arnel would still be broke. Journey made him rich. Arnel has never had a hit alone. Just sings Steve Perry Journey old songs hits. Arnel NEVER has his own hit song!! I I NEVER heard of Arnel's song on the radio. LOL
Such a shame that Arnel has to be put threw this, no offense to any of the past and present members but Arnel was a guy doing what he does and that's perform and Neal found him on TH-cam performing with his band. He legitimately brought Journey back and made it what it is today. It took a gifted individual to fill the shoes of Steve Perry and Arnel did so much more. If I'm not mistaken when Journey was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Steve mentioned Arnel in his speech, maybe one other member did if not but that's just the respect that Steve has for Arnel. Whatever happens I'm sure Arnel has plenty of opportunities in the rock community.
@@isaiahmarquez9717 That's true if we're going to talk about Journey literally reforming after their hiatus. But it seems that what everyone really meant when they say Journey "returned" or "rose from the ashes" is that they were back to that same level of hype and relevance they had in the 80's with Steve Perry when Arnel finally joined them.
I don't know why the other steve left before Steve perry but I do know from what I read Steve perry wrote and co wrote most of there hits songs and managed there but he never had a life all the other members want to do was tour 24/7 no rest no breaks he got fed up
The band flatlined without Steve. Arnel was a one in a million vocalist who not only could honors steve perry but had the balls to perform. Cain and Schon sound like they have some spirituality to catch up on. And btw, Going after a bandmate's spouse is a death kiss. I want to go see them on the 17th, I just hope they make it that long.
Mmm…going after someone’s spouse….I might be wrong but I think Neal’s wife from what I remember is a person that needs lots of attention kind of a whack job..anyway could be wrong but to all you musicians learn lessons from the past….stop binge drinking drugs & keep your wives out of band business…when they get involved nothing but problems….think Yoko…
I wonder if Arnel got on the phone to Neil after seeing the message from Neil and his wifes joint account ? I do wonder a bit why Arnel would even feel threatened or worried by a once off reunion with the original Journey singer. And I think it seems like Neil has probably taken Arnel for granted , i mean the guy has sung for them since 2007 , thats 15 plus years , he saved the band from fading into obscurity and yeah if hes not treated fairly and as an equal at this point then maybe it is time to part ways. SOunds like wifey might be causing alot of drama in that band espescially if she maybe doesnt get on with Arnel or something personally ? I mean its sad enough this dispute has gone out into the public instead of getting together and trying to sort it out as bandmates and friends...and also it sucks Arnel wasnt included in the rock n roll hall of fame as he happens to be the longest serving singers in the band.
ARNEL....JUST CONTINUE TO BE THE WONDERFUL Filapino That You are...Im from Oklahoma City...living in Manila almost 5 years now...Stay Strong Arnel...YOU ARE LOVED AND A VERY TALENTED BROTHER...
There is a reason they hired a singer that sounds like Perry. Perry's voice was Journey. I went to the Toto Journey concert last tuesday. Both bands were awesome. Its a shame they can't get along.
Arnel does not sound like Steve Perry. Arnel has an accent or twang to his voice that Steve Perry didn’t have. My ears do not hear any similarities. 🙄🤔🤨
Terrible Grown men have to act like that nothing but spoiled Brats Arnel is definitely a down to Earth person from his past and doesn't take anything for Granted stay Strong Arnel
Imagine you've left the band back then, because of the same issue and then called you back and they asked for it because they want the band to be alive again and you forgive them about the past, and then they just repeat it. 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Arnel saved Journey for a LONG time. Hell, even has Steve Perry supports him! And here you have 2 knuckleheads battling it out like Billy goats. I’m sure it’s getting old for someone like Arnel, who really doesn’t seem into things like drama
The whole problems with Journey all along have always been Neill and Johnathan in one capacity or the other. That's why I didn't blame Steve for leaving or never wanting to perform with them again. Now, Arnel is finding out the hard way unfortunately.
Steve leaving the band had nothing to do with this drama between Neal and Jonathan. Just when he was to go on tour Steve's hip went out. Steve made it clear to Neal not returning would be the consequence if Neal replaced him.
No need to remind him where he came from, he's not ashamed of it. Arnel would even greet his fellow countrymen whenever he'd see them on their concert.
Arnel is actually the longest tenured vocalist that the band has ever had. At some point you have to give credit to musicians who replaced original members and stuck it out. Doug Alderige with White Snake and Warren Haynes with the Allman Brothers come to mind..
@@xbotLife lol..nobody said that Steve isn't, but where is he now?.. Arnel sucks?lol,can you do just 1 percent of what he did? And let's not deny, where's Journey without Arnel.. I'm a big fan of Journey even before Arnel, but let's be honest Journey is already in its extinction phase that's why they are lookingfor a vocalist.. and thanks to Arnel...
I love this band. I grew up listening to their songs. (Im 43 now). I wish i didnt know about all their issues and with little research found out they have had a lot over the decades. I just want to enjoy their music. I hope they are able to work it out and they have such great talents. I love Arnel too.
Neal Schon's spending spree on collector EXPENSIVE guitars in the hundreds of thousands each was draining the groups funds. He was cut off which Neal stated Jonathon had no right to do that. I aggree with Jonathan when you have someone spending cash with no limit you have to stop the leaking drain. He is trying to protect the bands funds. Neal is arguing both have control over the bands financials equally and Johnathan is over stepping his authority and why the leagal affairs are implemented. I don't blame Arnel for wanting to be fired or he will probably quit all the drama. He is an amazing talent and will be scooped up by other artists.
Neal Schon and his wife are so entitled. Neal needs to remember a band is more than a guitar solo. They are lucky to have Ariel. Common even Steve Perry won’t sing at the Rock and Roll hall of fame. I’m pretty sure we all know why that is.
Sorry Ginger but Neal spent the last frign 50 years earning that entitlement and he hired John and brought him in so he can and will do what he wants. He has been fighting and keeping the band alive. Sorry but how would you feel if you found out your friend decided to add his girlfriend to your checking account, wouldn't feel good would it. More going on than you think.
@@waynedragon7432 Yeah, sorry Wayne, but without a Steve, or Arnel, Neil is just another guitar player in a band. They couldn't even tour and play their hits without the voice of the band.
Would love to have seen Rolie instead of that putz they have standing around in the background. That being said, I will be firmly in Arnel's camp. The other two are idiots. This isn't about a credit card, it's about political leanings.....
Been watching this band since the beginning. They are all excellent musicians, but with that comes attitude. They need to remember they need each other to complete the equation. “ The Whole is Greater then the Sum of its parts it’s made of” ( Stephen Swartz). The group should have a sit down…..no wives or girlfriends…..clear the air or these things will becomes toxic.
I ran into Neal Schon at a club in Studio City Ca back in the early 90s. He was so drunk he could barely stand up. Tried to shake his hand and he ignored me, then stumbled into the men’s room. Never cared for the band after that.
Please don't quit right now this is my first time going to the concert my take my daughter is taking me I'm 41 years old never been to a concert and always wanted to go to see journey and she's actually take me actually tomorrow and Washington DC so please don't quit now
Saw them last night in South Florida. There was no indication that anything was amiss, and they performed a great show. Arnel is every bit the front man that Steve Perry was - I've seen them in concert over 45 years. I honestly prefer the lineup with him.
I stopped listening to journey in the early 80’s when I moved into listening to alternative, punk, post-punk music. With that said, to me journey will only be journey with Perry. All of their most iconic songs were sung by him. Glad to see the band continued on after he left but these grown men are acting like 12 year olds on the playground. Be grateful for what you have.
I can honestly say as a drummer/ musician myself, when it comes to the original sound of the journey, ARNEL is doing his job and then some. JOURNEY will always be a great band and to try and continue a legacy the issue might be personal problems amongst the band because maybe they have a luxurious lifestyle. I personally have come a long way with work and life balance and one thing I have learned is that work life and personal life are 2 different things. I feel if ARNEL has done the best he can do and it is not good enough time for him to move on.
Arnel has stayed the longest among Journey's vocalist. I believe the other member of journey shld control his wife from posting issues that can ruin the other members, even if it's not Arnel. They shld have had learned their lessons in the past years. Arnel Pineda is known to be a kind humble soul. Even Chicago likes him and some other good bands. If not for Arnel, Journey wouldn't have been able to rescucitate their careers a long a time ago. Arnel is the one singing the songs infront of the audience. He is the face of the band and Neil's wife shld be reminded where they get their money from.
Journey, would be so lucky to have Greg Rollie sing with Journey again, loved his voice and great smile he's a great piano player. Greg Rollie is a very talented individual. Dont let greed get in the way of long lasting friendships. As far as Arnel he protected the Journey Legacy and deserves the respect of Johnathan Cain and Neal Schon and if both of them are disrespecting Arnel then they deserve to lose thier fans. As we the Journey fans have loved all members of Journey and it appears thier egos and greed keep getting in the way of the band, AKA known as Journey 😢 how sad, I am seeing Journey in a few days. I hope they don't anger Arnel and he walks out of Journey. Cain and Schon get yourselves in check. Because this news is not good for the future of your band. I am a fan of all those who have served in the Band Journey. This band exist because the fans love your music not your damn drama. Stop the fighting and just sing for the many fans who pay to hear you play and sing.
Neal and Jon married two bat crazy women and it's been a struggle ever since. Why is either woman involved in this? Cain's wife reportedly threatened to sue Steve Lukather over some comment he made of her. Keep in mind, Luke's son Trevor married Jon Cain's daughter a few months ago, and Toto is opening for Journey., and she wants to sue Luke? So now it isn't enough to cause a rift in Journey now she has issues with the main man in Toto and her stepdaughter's father in law? Stick a fork in Journey, they're done.
@Tom Dulle: This is about the only balanced, knowledgeable statement here. I admit Schon’s wife is drama, but Paula White? She’s a charlatan. See videos of her here on TH-cam speaking in tongues. She’s made Cain as batshit crazy with the religious zealotry as she is. And they’re both trump supporters. So I can see why Neal has an issue with that.
Wow have times changed. I worked a couple of there shows in the early 2000. I got to run spot on Shaun, then the lead singer. I guess it was to soon to see them without Steve Perry. I was use to the songs sounding one way and it just seemed like I was watching an audition session.
Arnel is great lead singer and Steve perry they are both good singer... but only problem is Neil Schon he did not want arnel to be great he wants arnel down he maybe he is jealous of arnel... we love sir arnel , I saw the journey last concert April 17 here in Matthew Arena Eugene Oregon... The Arena is full... a great concert with toto... ❤❤❤❤
Sorry. More corrections. Gregg Rolie was more than the original keyboardist, he is a founder and original member, after leaving Santana with Neal. And he’s a 2 time hall of famer!
No band should ever share their dirt on social media. They need to grow up or call it quits
Social media will cause a lot of problems if you put your personal business on there!!!! I have never put any of my personal issues on s.m. !!!!!
Agree
Arnel once said he’d love to see Journey reunite with Steve Perry. He’d gladly step aside. This guy has no bad blood. Journey is lucky to have found him.
that will never happen. by the time steve was 40 he could no longer sing like when he was in his 30's. arnel at 56 can still sing journey songs in its original key for the last 16 years day in day out.
@@minavamp2811
Not true. Arnel never really possessed the full vocal capabilities of Steve Perry in his prime. Why do you think he gets Deen to sing Mother, Father along with a few others instead of doing them himself? Arnel is an outstanding vocalist but there is only one "Steve Perry" and nobody will be able to sing with that soulful wonder the way he was able to.
@@dougprentice1363
I must be missing something. That post showed on the video never mentioned Arnel from what I could tell so why did he think he was the one being accused?
@@gamersinger5118fact is fact. steve voice was good when he was in his 30's. in his 40's his voice has regressed significantly. you can hear a clear different in his voice when he did his last album with journey in 1986 (at 37) and came back to journey in 1997 (at 47) his voice no longer has the clarity and the range. by then he could no longer sing journey earlier songs. amel now at 56 can still sing journey entire song catalog live day in day out on tour in original keys. steve can never do that.
@@minavamp2811
I was referring to when Steve Perry was at his peak obviously. Of course Arnel has lasted longer. A different time and Arnel doesn't push himself the way Steve always did back in the 80's. There was too much money on the line back then and no way around it. Steve often even sang when he was sick. Of course that would break a voice down. I was comparing prime to prime. You can't compare a 50 something year old to a 70 something year old. 20 years is a big difference. Touring is handled quite a bit differently these days compared to those that Steve and Journey toured in. Deen Castronovo has a better conditioned voice than both at this point if we are being honest and he is older than Arnel by a few years.
Arnel is such a humble dude. There was a documentary about him joining the band and the rest of the band all shared in the band’s success while Arnel was given a basic paycheck. They treated him like an employee. The whole reason they’re drawing a crowd is because they found Arnel and he’s singing his heart out.
He's also rich beyond belief in the Philippines
I saw them last night and when Neal and Jonathan came out people cheered but when Arnel came out the place erupted like I’ve never heard, people like him and they should realize he’s worth saving if they wanna continue.
After that documentary came out, they had a whole new market. He sings just as good a Steve Perry, but in the Philippines there are so many amazing singers.
Wonder why they're coming out separately.????? Why not as a group?
Arnel could go to other hands and be appreciated they treated Steve the same without Steve or you they would be nothing. They won't find a replacement but you could work with so many other bands that would appreciate you. Kinda the same thing with Bon Jovi losing Richie they were very lucky to find a replacement
That's crazy! I've met Arnel away from a music venue, he is hands down the nicest guy, super down to earth. The fact that he's saying stuff on social media tells how bad the issue are. Wow!
Neal Schon married one of the 'real housewives'. That's all you really need to know about him.
Also props to Jeff Scott Soto...always a class act.
Yep, this confirms Steve was never the problem.
Yeah, and I think they are also insecured by Steve Perry's talent and well-produced musics. He can do music on his own without Journey. Look at him now. He is free in doing what he likes when it comes in composing and singing his own sound.
He played his part. Why fire drummer n Valory for studio 🎙️ dudes.
@@lexskyee actually Steve can't do it on his own.
He need s Jonathan n Schon.
Exactly, I've heard to many people blaming Steve, getting fed up of it, shows it's the other two original members who are still in it.
@@HisHimmer He's had solo albums so that's not true at all. Journey wouldn't be where they're are now if it wasn't for the new sound that Steve brought to the band when he joined the band.
The fact that the wife has the nerve to say someone forgot where they came from is flabbergasting.
She hasn't played a single note in the band and has only reaped the rewards earned by all of the current and former members.
She's forgotten where she came from.
Agree 100%! “Yoko Schono” needs to keep her nose out of band biz! That’s right, she was a Fake (cheating) Housewife of D.C.
Well it's true Journey saved him. Arnel was living like a poor rat waiting to die from starvation when he got plucked by Journey. He needs to stop being arrogant because hed be dead by now from extreme poverty and famishment if he wasn't given a chance
Google up Paula White, Cain's wife..... she's the problem
So true!!!!
Facts
Neil Schon's wife has a nerve!!!! Girl, why can't you just be a refined, educated, and decent human being, and just enjoy what JOURNEY BAND provides for you??? UNGRATEFUL!!!!!
Yeah, I can't stand here for a while.That was always on his site.All these always super lovey Davey pictures.It's great if they're in love but kind of Sickening. She was the lady with the heavy looking. Dude, that? She was married to I forget. I think they're trying to go to some event at the White House and they snuck their way in. And after that is when she got with Neil.
Remember, with her first husband she broke into the white house at a party. She is nuts.
Her first husband's name, was Tareq Salahi and she left him to re-unite with Neil; which also broke up his marriage and he was still a newlywed of 2 months. Women like this, are so selfish and don't care who they hurt.😮 Reminds me of when Yoko Ono caused chaos for the BEATLES and broke up John Lennon's marriage, so that she could have him for herself.
@@jocelynharris-fx8ho takes two to tango.. John danced there too....
@@nnjsingleguy She found her match in life then. lol
Arnel joining Journey back then unfolded like a dream-come-true story. Sad that it's come to this.
yeah Arnel is a huge heart of inspiration for the whole world !!!
Arnel needs to break away from such degrading nonsense. Form his own talented band. HE DOESN'T NEED THEM!!!
@@veronicazawodniak561 I feel he is fine playing local in the PH tbh. He’s not money hungry and appreciate being a part of Journey. He would be content playing for a small venue, at home.
@@jessicaal415 Whatever makes him joyous! I don't know or met him. But, he seems to have a beautiful soul. Along with a beautiful voice. He doesn't need that constant disrespect on his soul. God bless him
Arnel is such an awesome singer and a good dude. It would be great to see him get in another band with continued success.
A new band for Arnel would be good. Change is good!
Cain joined a cult & now no one wants anything to do with him.
@@15scottie Great point!
It’s better than mimicking someone else’s art.
@@chrisc9200
Nobody is claiming that mimicking or impersonating a legendary singer is a “cake walk” but yourself.
He is a hired gun to mimic the best.
He did not contribute to the band in anyway that would come close to Perry’s own contributions to the band during his tenure.
He needs to move on and create his own stamp. Otherwise, he will be forgotten in a very short time.
If you had seen both live you then could compare the different, but obviously you haven’t, except on video, which is not the same.
And I have every right to voice my opinions.
Now, start singing Chris.
I also remember during their rock n roll hall of fame inductee they never acknowledged arnel or even thank him for what he does for journey. but only steve perry and steve smith who acknowledged arnel.
That goes to show how ungrateful they are.
So true!
Not saying this is the absolute metric, but Neal has 61.2 thousand Twitter followers while Arnel has 1.7 million.
Id never play a gig or be in a band with Schon.
So you guys think they got inducted into to the Hall of Fame because of their retirement tour singer? Lololol 👌🤡🤡
Journey died a long time ago when Steve Perry left. Arnel revived them. Without Arnel, Journey is dead. Never to return.
I saw them in Detroit with Def Leppard & they sold out the ball field. They're doing just fine & are epic
While Arnel is extremely talented ... I can only agree with your statement that Journey died when Steve Perry left. I love Neil Schon's work, he's a phenomenal guitarist ... But he's a bit of a diva too.
@@hyena61 Arnel did revive the band. Not close to the same extent as during Steve, but if it wasn't for Arnel honoring the legacy they'd be history at this point.
The best rock documentary ever… even better than finding Nemo 😃
I never knew journey until arnel piineda....ive heard of steve but not journey....
I saw them in concert last month in Savannah, GA. They were amazing!! Come on guys, get it together and quit fighting.
Detroit for me. Epic
They are a cover band now
Arnel, remind them where they were when they found you!! You are a kind, sweet spirit that spreads smiles. Don’t sacrifice that for no one.
IKR. I really don't follow this band anymore, so it's weird recalling hearing about how they found this guy and it was a life-changing experience for him, and them. Fast forward 20(?) years later, he's had enough of them.
They can also remind him where he was when they found him. Ever visit the Philippines?
@@edrohrbacher1678 they did and still are. That’s why I made the comment. Both sides needed each other and now pride is ripping them apart!
@@edrohrbacher1678 I'd say they owe him as much as he owes them. I doubt they would have had the recent resurgence they've enjoyed with anyone else's voice but Pineda's or Perry's himself.
@@fleatactical7390 I saw them on multiple tours with Steve Augeri in packed arenas, so I'm going to disagree. Also, Deen Castronovo sings better.... While playing the drums
Arnel Pineda such an Awesome person full of humbleness inspite of his success,he remains down to earth....God bless you always
Unlike Neil, who is a turd.
I understand why Steve doesn't want to come back
Same here
Exactly what I said on another post.
yep im sure his stress level is so much better without the drama
Probably since he doesn't want to put up with this b.s. Who would?
Would you want to be near the dumpster fire that is Neal & Jon?
The original Journey before Steve Perry was the same story. Steve Perry put Journey on his back and carried them to the fame they have period. The original members always seemed to be jealous of Perry and now I see that continues. They need to get over themselves and be thankful to have had the careers they have had and be glad they owe it to others.
Neil and John seemed to be quietly jealous of Steve's brilliance. They especially Neil always wanted to be the focus of attention. Not classy like Steve always was.
Steve Perry was/is Journey!!!!
Arnel does a great job. Great voice, energy and interaction with the audience. We loved him when we saw Journey.
Hé sounds like Miles Kennedy…
Saw him last night and he was amazing!
True, he does an excellent job.
Great voice and energy. Hard worker and no drama.
Too bad he doesn't have sex appeal. Then again, neither did Perry.
@@cynthiagonzalez658 Oh course Steve Perry had loads of sex appeal! Are you out of your mind?
The problem here is Niel’s wife butting in and instigating drama. Musicians should never let their GF’s or wives become involved with the band’s personal business. Hopefully these guys can sort all their issues and continue making/playing music.
When I was in the army I had a friend who was discharged because he didn't salute the wife of an officer.
She was driving his car with the officer's rank on the window. While it is true that the rule was to salute the rank, he saw it wasn't the officer who was driving. She stopped the car and got his info.
Clearly she was an entitled little tyrant who thought his rank extended to her.
This sounds very similar. Mind your place if you're not the person who earned it.
It’s what brought about the end of Supertramp and kept them from ever reuniting. Rick Davies’ wife as manager.
So Journey are essentially being Yoko'd?
Just like a man blame the women for what a man dose
@@dianekeller7534 History shows 99% of the time woman are the problem…. they’re never content.
Arnel is such a good guy, it's a shame to see him get dragged into the middle of all this. He deserves better.
Arnel is a dime a dozen back in the Philippines,
@@mikejones5364 -- Dime a dozen ? In what way ? How so Im curious !
@@rickfortine7454 Go to any Karoke club at night or someone birthday party or better yet a club where most have people covering US Songs from the 70 to 90's era, they sound just like US Singer. I have seen a guy called Phil Albit he sounds just like Kenny Rogers, there was a blind chick who sounded just like Karen carpenter, they are excellent at memic US singers.
@@mikejones5364 Thanks for the feedback
He should've been in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Steve and Arnel should form a new band called "Destination..." , singing power duets. it's not the journey it's the "Destination..!"
Now that would be awesome.
That would rock my world
Stupid idea. The two sound the same with no contrast. Perry would write the hits and Arnel would just follow him like now.
Why not? 😊
Naaaaa Steve is outstanding
I'm an old guy now, I loved the Gregg Rolie era of Journey, lots of great memories flood my mind when I hear those songs. Gregg has a warm, hearty voice and killer keyboards. Then when Steve came in, both of their vocals paired together was magical. Bring Gregg back.
You don’t owe them nothing, you gave your sincere heart and good soul to the band, you’ve done a great great job Arnel. What ever happens we believed in you and we will support you. We love you and thank you for showing your talent to the whole world❤️🇵🇭
the fact that Steve doesn't want a reunion decades ago and Jeff supported Arnel not to mention that they already have 5 different vocalist means only one thing. This band's management had serious issues.
I am actually thinking about that. Despite of their downfalls and huge success, there always having issues within their fences. And I think you're right on that point.
@@Dondingdingding they run Journey like a corporation. True!
THANKS ARNEL for stepping up too the mic,and keeping the music alive,you know how STEVE FEELS,you know,your vocals are in the groove,nite after nite,the show went on because of you,the man on the mic IS THE MAN
Journey has been at each other's throats for decades. Arnel is a kind soul and deserves 0% of this shite storm he's been dragged into. During the 80's Journey had infighting problems, they would mend fences the go right back at it.
@@razamatazfirzam5724 Yes Sir, Arnel is an awesome vocalist
Its the two original members who is still there seem to be the issue I think.
Been a Journey fan since the late 1970's. Arnel has been the lead singer of the band the longest. He deserves respect and quite honestly, his voice is the only thing that is keeping the current journey lineup alive. Without him Neal can blow it out his ass. If I was Arnel, I would retire a rich man and live the rest of my life back in the Philippines. He did a great job.
Yes; he’s good but Greg Rollie started the Band with Neal while still playing with Santana!! Co-Founders should never be dismissed!! Greg played with Steve his 1st year!! Let’s face it Neal is a Heavier Rock Guitarist & to me one of the Best I have ever seen live 🎸🎵
Steve was 1977-1998 and Arnel is 2007-2023. Steve is still longer so you need to correct your comment right now, apologize , and never let it happen again.
@@cba4389 nooooo your wrong. Steve was not the lead singer all those years straight, He was replaced in between those years by other singers. So get your shit straight
According to the internet Arnel Pineda has a net worth right now of 20 million...He certainly could afford to retire and live like a king in the Philippines if he wanted to.
Exactly❤
Neil Schon is the biggest problem, it’s his ego and controlling nature that has got Journey into its present turmoil. Arnel has done a fabulous job and gave Journey a new lease of life when he joined.
Worthy comment!
Agreed! EGO just like the late Glenn Frey from the Eagles
He had the same problems with Carlos Santana band too.
Agreed. Is the tour really called Neal Schön & Journey 50th Anniversary Freedom Tour? If so, good grief. Given their situation at the time, despite the circumstances, Schön owes a lot to Arnel for giving the band another chance.
And wasn't Neil Schon also the problem for Steve Perry!?? Seems like he needs to take it down several notches.
Saw them live tonight and Arnel did AMAZING!
Arnel has been a Godsend to Journey and us all for years! The show I saw at the Hollywood Bowl a decade ago was unbelievable, what a compliment and talent like none other 🙌🏻⚡️❤️🎶🙏🏻
They’re so incredibly short sighted, they’ll never find another guy like Arnel. Hope they like retirement.
Without Journey Arnel would still be broke. Journey made him rich. Arnel has never had a hit alone. Just sings Steve's Journey songs.
@@richcampbell6808 Well, wasn't he grateful enough? I saw old interviews of him saying how lucky he was for getting this job and was grateful.
@@richcampbell6808 what point are you trying to make? The fans love Arnel.
@@whatevergoesforme5129 Hes old now and lost most of his voice . Using autotune. Time for a new singer .
Never a Journey fan until Arnel joined. It was such a great story and he turned out to be a nice guy along with his talent. Journey has some of my money now just because of Arnel.
Arnel has such an amazing voice he can be a star on his own!
Arnel deserves great things. He’s got a hell of a voice and he has the charisma. He’s a wonderful performer, he deserves much much better. Too bad to see this happening to him after all this time and all the bs with the other singers. Arnel is a 1 in a billion chance, the odds of them finding a guy as good as he is was slim to start with.
Journey had a resurgence with Arnel and helped immensely with their new found popularity in Asia. Sad to see disrespect done to him.
ARNEL is a millionaire because of Journey. He was broke before Journey found him and gave him a job as he stated in a documentary
@@richcampbell6808 nah.
@@richcampbell6808 you mean Arnel got paid millions for making Journey popular again
@@borisbogart3288 Journey could get any Steve perry sound alike. Easily replaced
@@richcampbell6808 then why cant they fire him?
If fired, at this point, Arnel could form his own Journey tribute band and keep touring and playing to decently-sized crowds for the next 10 years. He'd be his own boss and could create a positive atmosphere for his whole band.
How about creating your own unique brand and sound. Or isn’t he talented enough for such a feat?
Arnel needs to grow his hair back, he looked pitiful at the show I saw. VERY AWKWARD
@Timothy A. Olmeda Yeah, that would be great too, even better. He already releases his own music as is. My point was that he's set up well to be his own boss for a post-Journey career if he does get fired.
I'm baffled at why you'd read into my comment and imply that what I really meant was that Arnel lacked talent. It sounds like you're just picking a fight. I'm a big fan and supporter of Arnel and I'm sure virtually everybody reading my first comment and this one would understand that. Your comment sounds like it's coming out of left field.
@@alexanderlyon
Funny, I wasn’t implying anything about your comment other than he should just go about on his own. Though I don’t think he would fair well because he has yet to prove himself a great songwriter, though that could be arranged by an outside source.
My personal experiences with his singing has nothing to do with your opinions at all.
It has nothing to do with “picking a fight” no more than you praising him for his particular talents.
It’s called an opinion.
My opinion stems from the experience of witnessing every singer Journey has had, except for the years Greg Rolie was their sole vocalist for the album’s Journey, Look into the Future, and shared vocals with Perry on his debut on the Next album, Infinity, Evolution and Departure.
Those whom have witnessed the band during these years would have the best understanding of whom actually was the better singer, the best replacement, and whether someone is as great as people claim.
Experience means everything.
I was lucky enough to capture these performances, whether it was my intentions or not. At the same time, I haven’t been seriously into the band once Steve Perry left, and it died even more when Greg Rolie left, even more so after Steve Smith left, and eventually when Ross Valory had left.
The eventual slow death process of elimination of Journey has definitely changed the essence of what Journey was, and has only become a heart monitor awaiting its final tick.
The band could only truly reestablish itself once again to that status with a true reunion like it had done before, and with a well deserved retirement along with it.
On the bands 50th anniversary this year, based on the rumors and lawsuits, this most likely will not take place.
What a shame.
@@timothya.olmeda7299 Fair enough. I misunderstood.
Neal Schon’s wife was the woman who snuck into a whitehouse dinner uninvited with her husband then left him the min Neal looked her way. That should tell you all you need to know about those people.
Jonathan Cain’s wife is/was Trumps spiritual leader. You know the lady who was summoning angels from Africa…..that crazy lady lol
If you don’t know what I’m talking about look up Paula White on TH-cam
I agree...trash is trash...
That woman is toxic. Neal had Ross Vallory and Steve Smith fired from what I recall as well. He needs an ego check since he’s alienating everyone. What a douchebag.
Yes!!
Neal looks ridiculous with that black hair..😳
Arnel is such a down-to-earth, humble and very likeable person. Without his saying or claiming it, it was Arnel's golden voice and character that resurrected the Journey band. Neil came across Arnel in 60 youtube videos covering songs of various artists/bands, namely: Journey, Freddie Mercury, Bon Jovi, Bryan Adams, Toto, Guns and Roses, Chicago, Survivor, Aerosmith, Leed Zeppelin, Police, Air Supply, Eagles, Steve Miller Band, Kenny Loggins, Stryper, Roxette, Cheap Trick, Skylark, Heart, etc. Arnel has established a foundation in the Philippines, helping a lot of people. Also, he has made investments that he'll secure his long-term financial independence, and one of them is his Rockville resto which consistently attracts large crowds. I believe that he can make a world tour singing all by himself or with a few of of the best Filipino singers, and make it big. If offered to be the front man man old an famous band that wants to get back on the world stage, he'll probably accept it if the terms are right and fair.
Steve was never the problem with the group! He just got tired of the jealousy and selfishness of the other guys! Sometimes you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone!
" Sometimes you don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone" pun intended?
Steve Perry was not only the most talented guy in the band, but also the coolest one.
He was the most talented. People liked his songs he released without Journey. What songs did they release without him that anyone cares about?
Well they found an incredible replacement. He’s the only one who ever came close there the legend Perry
We all love Steve Perry but at this point, even if he is still with the band, I don’t think he can carry out the load of singing all those high note songs day in day out, especially when they are on tour.
@@franksrockintoyreview2711 After All These Years did quite well, and Revelations as a whole is a great album.
well, he left a long long long long time ago...lol
I've only recently discovered Arnel as Journey's vocalist and he's great. Sucks so much that so many of these older bands just vitriolically hate each other for something that probably happened 30 years ago.
This has been going on with the current line-up of Journey over political divisity issues,with half of the band members being Donald Trump fans(/supporters) and Neal Schon being anti-Trump as they should focus more on their celebration tour and their music instead of their personal beliefs(both political and personal) and their personal feelings.
@@stevenmillan9220 And Neal Schon being Donald Trump hater (anti-trump).
@Ignacio Butassi He already said that, why are you tagging him and repeating his own words back to him? That added nothing, less than nothing...
Me too. I didn’t know Journey still toured until last year let alone had a new vocalist. I bought tickets and saw them last year. He sounded amazing live to my surprise. This is very sad to hear he’s quitting. 😢
@@AT-bt2co He's not new though as he's now been with them for 16 years, great singer! I'm looking forward to them coming back to the UK so I can see them again.
Arnel is such a great vocalist. I remember seeing all the viral videos when he was first found. It is sad that he is getting caught up in all this old drama between the other bandmates.
Now I understand why Steve walked away from journey. I took my 10 year old twins to see them on their 50th tour and I was blown away. It was so good I felt sad in the morning because it was over. I’m very excited that I got to see them in person and to share the experience with my boys. It’s unfortunate they are going down this pass. Honestly after this tour they should retire and enjoy life.
Awesome job Jeff Scott Soto!👍
I can't believe that this is happening to Journey they are one of the best bands on earth. Arnel deserves better than this he's one of a kind I hope they can work things out before things really go bad
Unfortunately when bands get up there in years, members start bickering back and forth about something, especially when there are still original members or long time members of said band.
Greed and jealousy.....
Sadly it's already there. They destroyed their legacy by Greed!
So sad...they made plenty of money. Arnel should break away gracefully. And start a new band with Steve Perry.
They were one of the best bands, but when Steve Perry left, it’s been all downhill since. Without Steve Perry, there is no journey.
Camp Schon and Camp Cain should be ashamed of themselves bringing the level down to that of a 2 year old. They don’t appreciate the fans or their lead singer who took on the impossible task to sing Steve Perry material. It’s a disgrace to see them air their dirty laundry in public. Keep the Yoko Ono’s of it away from it all, zip it and cut the BS to bow to the fans of 50 years. Is that simple task too damn hard on Schon and Cain?
ARNEL, STAND YOUR GROUND... DON'T LET THEM BULLY YOU... TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITH JOURNEY THIS LONG & TO TAKE THEIR CRAP... THAT IS SO BS... JOURNEY WOULDN'T BE AROUND WITHOUT YOU. YOU HAVE REVIVED JOURNEY. & YOU SURE GAVE IT WITH ALL YOU HEART. TAKE CARE & GOD BLESS YOU, BRO
Arnel is such a talented artist/singer. He doesn't need journey, they need him.!!
Very well said!
Lol.
Dude like him are a dime a dozen in the Philippines. Hard part is just getting a visa for a person to come to USA.
@Mike Jones But don't have the same passion about Journey and singing their songs
They've been doing this for 50 years. I think it's safe to say they don't need anyone......I'm sure they are all set for life and if they never did another show, they'd be fine.
I was an 80's teenager and I'm shocked at the teenage shit that these bands go through. Then again, we all know why it happens, right? Ego and narcissism, period!!!
Don't Stop Believing Arnel!!! ❤️👍🙏
I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one tired of all of Journey's petty back and forth drama!
I feel vindicated now that Arnel has even come to that point.
You're the man, kabayan!
You continue what Steve started.
Stay humble and let them be.
If they can't appreciate what you've done, of what you're doing, it's their problem, not yours.
You have nothing more to prove.
You are among the greats!
Mabuhay po at pagpalain, kabayan!
Hang in there Arnel. We love you! Don't let these band mess get to you. - from the Philippines
i believe its okay. its normal on every band. if arnel have to part ways and go tour either solo or new band well thats how it goes
Has anyone noticed or mentioned that all of this drama seems to have begun with the entrance of the 'infamous' white house crasher? She seems to be right at the center of everything.
@Lisa Hodge her and Cain’s ‘pastor’ 😒wife are the origins and reasons of all of this drama. I am pro woman. But I’m also deeply pro human and pro art and music. ‘Wives’ and ‘girl-toys’ of musicians need to stay the hell out of the business. Period. That means recording studio, record company, and touring. Unless the woman is legit-straight-up knowledgeable in music, performing, set and costume design and or is in the business, she needs to stay in her lane.
@@leahwestrum6875 AMEN !! Yoko all over again! Anyone who comes from Houseeives of NJ and crashed White House events has a lot of balls but NO business lecturing anyone about Spiritual matters even if she is wife number 5! Stay off social media! As for Arnel, hang in there, they need you more than you need them! You go… and there’s no shoe!
@Susan Hunter very true Susan; Schon and Cain need to tell their ‘girl-toys’ to sit down and STHU. These c*nts aren’t in the band, have not written or contributed any songs, music, or lyrics; have nothing to do and therefore have NO business in the Industry. And yet they feel the need to but in. Why, you say? Money, straight up. Greed is the ultimate destruction of all good alliances. As well as egos and entitled b*tch syndrome.
true that! Her posts are BS to me, especially how she refer to Arnel as "the other guy in the band". Well, excuse me! That "other guy" is the reason why Journey is still able to cash in big bucks. If not for him, Journey is dead!
WH squatters….reminds me of the current regime 🤣😂
Can you imagine being able to take over singing for your favorite band and tour the globe and they are so petty that you don’t care if you get fired or not?
They say never meet your heroes. I guess it's true.
Imagine YOUR HEROES USING YOU
happens to any band those who are not the original lineup would be probably be fired if they want to bring back the og singers
The egos of the old members are sooooo massive I am shocked they haven't killed each other🤣
@@TheAgentAssassin totally agree.
I went to one of their shows and you can’t even hear Arnel sing because Neal has to have his guitar playing be the main focus.
It was so bad we walked out after the 2nd song.
I’ll never waste my money again.
Which is rather ironic, because back in high school (first half of the 1980's - Journey's high water mark), when I listened to their music and before I really knew their history I enjoyed them, but certainly never thought the guitar player was anything exceptional. To me they were an extremely successful pop group with some cool musical flourishes that set them apart from their pop contemporaries - but the guitar was an obligatory afterthought; I was much more impressed with the vocals and Steve Smith on drums (I am a drummer though, so I recognize my own bias there). Sure, they guitar leads were tasty and fit in well, but compared to other much more guitar-heavy bands of the era Journey was just average.
As I've gotten older, I certainly appreciate Schon's talent and contributions much more than I did then. That said, to play armchair psychiatrist (with all of the qualifications normally associated with that position - none, to be specific) but I truly think he suffers from his own ego and the fact that Journey was originally created largely to be a vehicle for him - that it didn't really pan out that way (despite or perhaps because of their tremendous mainstream success) he's in someways a bit insecure and as such overcompensates by being something of a control freak.
It's too bad, because when I finally saw them (probably six or seven years ago), they really played well, it's unfortunate that egos so often drive the trajectories of bands.
Was he doing that awful bobble head thing? I saw them last month, it was painful
@@AndreySloan_is_a_cnut Wow, you read it the way I did too. Neil is a decent guitar player, but without a Steve, or an Arnel, to reproduce that "sound", he's just another one of many guitar players. I'm not sure the word 'humble' is in his vocabulary.
yes! I noticed this, too!
Arnel is too good for Journey. He deserves his own success
if he was capable of that he would have been successful before now. Journey's classic songs are what brought him fame.
Too bad these issues happen in bands, Arnel is a very good singer! He is not however Steve Perry, he was a great kareoke singer who got very lucky when discovered by Neal Schon. If he does quit the band I wish him the best.
@@robbiddlecombe8392 I don't know. I heard Steve not long ago. Sounds pretty good to my ears.
@@robbiddlecombe8392 obviously you don't know much about his past Rob, look it up he was a kareoke singer. I also stated he is a very good singer.
@@robbiddlecombe8392 I've seen both as well, and Arnell does sound exactly like Steve 90% of the time. If you listen to Steve's versions of certain songs that require the highest notes at certain points in the songs and then listen to Arnel's versions....Arnel can't quite hit that highest note that Steve could in his prime. Of course Steve couldn't hit it now either.
Arnel is an AMAZING vocalist and performer. They really hit the jackpot when they found him. A talent like his is literally one in a few million.
They should hold on to him.
More like one in a billion
no ...I beg to differ...Steve Perry was one in a million...Arnel is just someone trying to be Steve.
Without Steve Perry old song of Journey Arnel would still be broke. Journey made him rich. Arnel has never had a hit alone. Just sings Steve Perry Journey old songs hits. Arnel NEVER has his own hit song!! I I NEVER heard of Arnel's song on the radio. LOL
Such a shame that Arnel has to be put threw this, no offense to any of the past and present members but Arnel was a guy doing what he does and that's perform and Neal found him on TH-cam performing with his band. He legitimately brought Journey back and made it what it is today. It took a gifted individual to fill the shoes of Steve Perry and Arnel did so much more. If I'm not mistaken when Journey was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Steve mentioned Arnel in his speech, maybe one other member did if not but that's just the respect that Steve has for Arnel. Whatever happens I'm sure Arnel has plenty of opportunities in the rock community.
Another one. Smh. STEVE AUGERI brought Journey back, not Arnel. Arnel replaced him, not Steve Perry. Journey was already “brought back.”
@Isaiah Marquez I understand what your saying and I did fail to mention him. I'm just saying that Arnel has given them recognition as well.
@@isaiahmarquez9717 That's true if we're going to talk about Journey literally reforming after their hiatus. But it seems that what everyone really meant when they say Journey "returned" or "rose from the ashes" is that they were back to that same level of hype and relevance they had in the 80's with Steve Perry when Arnel finally joined them.
@@isaiahmarquez9717 daddy chill.
I don't know why the other steve left before Steve perry but I do know from what I read Steve perry wrote and co wrote most of there hits songs and managed there but he never had a life all the other members want to do was tour 24/7 no rest no breaks he got fed up
The band flatlined without Steve. Arnel was a one in a million vocalist who not only could honors steve perry but had the balls to perform. Cain and Schon sound like they have some spirituality to catch up on. And btw, Going after a bandmate's spouse is a death kiss. I want to go see them on the 17th, I just hope they make it that long.
The drummer can sing like Steve. Look up Schon and Rolley in "Journey through time"
I know you mean Steve Perry. Steve Augeri was already there before Arnel. Arnel didn’t start anything. He kept going what Steve Augeri started.
Mmm…going after someone’s spouse….I might be wrong but I think Neal’s wife from what I remember is a person that needs lots of attention kind of a whack job..anyway could be wrong but to all you musicians learn lessons from the past….stop binge drinking drugs & keep your wives out of band business…when they get involved nothing but problems….think Yoko…
I wonder if Arnel got on the phone to Neil after seeing the message from Neil and his wifes joint account ? I do wonder a bit why Arnel would even feel threatened or worried by a once off reunion with the original Journey singer. And I think it seems like Neil has probably taken Arnel for granted , i mean the guy has sung for them since 2007 , thats 15 plus years , he saved the band from fading into obscurity and yeah if hes not treated fairly and as an equal at this point then maybe it is time to part ways. SOunds like wifey might be causing alot of drama in that band espescially if she maybe doesnt get on with Arnel or something personally ? I mean its sad enough this dispute has gone out into the public instead of getting together and trying to sort it out as bandmates and friends...and also it sucks Arnel wasnt included in the rock n roll hall of fame as he happens to be the longest serving singers in the band.
@@stevros48 Second class citizen treatment, maybe. Or NOT wanting to be reminded that Arnel Pineda SAVED the band from obscurity?!
ARNEL....JUST CONTINUE TO BE THE WONDERFUL Filapino That You are...Im from Oklahoma City...living in Manila almost 5 years now...Stay Strong Arnel...YOU ARE LOVED AND A VERY TALENTED BROTHER...
There is a reason they hired a singer that sounds like Perry. Perry's voice was Journey. I went to the Toto Journey concert last tuesday. Both bands were awesome. Its a shame they can't get along.
Arnel does not sound like Steve Perry. Arnel has an accent or twang to his voice that Steve Perry didn’t have. My ears do not hear any similarities. 🙄🤔🤨
@@SueKay-rq1lr agreed. Arnel is close as they could get.
Terrible Grown men have to act like that nothing but spoiled Brats Arnel is definitely a down to Earth person from his past and doesn't take anything for Granted stay Strong Arnel
What do you expect, he is a baby compared to the other guys and their experiences.
He is better off doing his own thing.
That’s the most rock n roll statement Arnel has given by far
Imagine you've left the band back then, because of the same issue and then called you back and they asked for it because they want the band to be alive again and you forgive them about the past, and then they just repeat it. 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Arnel saved Journey for a LONG time. Hell, even has Steve Perry supports him! And here you have 2 knuckleheads battling it out like Billy goats. I’m sure it’s getting old for someone like Arnel, who really doesn’t seem into things like drama
The whole problems with Journey all along have always been Neill and Johnathan in one capacity or the other. That's why I didn't blame Steve for leaving or never wanting to perform with them again. Now, Arnel is finding out the hard way unfortunately.
I would say it would be Neil more than Jonathan he seems to not get along with anyone
Steve leaving the band had nothing to do with this drama between Neal and Jonathan. Just when he was to go on tour Steve's hip went out. Steve made it clear to Neal not returning would be the consequence if Neal replaced him.
No need to remind him where he came from, he's not ashamed of it. Arnel would even greet his fellow countrymen whenever he'd see them on their concert.
Arnel is actually the longest tenured vocalist that the band has ever had. At some point you have to give credit to musicians who replaced original members and stuck it out. Doug Alderige with White Snake and Warren Haynes with the Allman Brothers come to mind..
Perry would always be Journey's voice but Pineda has earned his dues and can voice his opinion whenever he wants.
@Invencible lol..original what? Where were they if not because of Arnel..
Arnel sucks! Steve perry will always be journey’s one true lead vocalist.
@@xbotLife lol..nobody said that Steve isn't, but where is he now?.. Arnel sucks?lol,can you do just 1 percent of what he did? And let's not deny, where's Journey without Arnel.. I'm a big fan of Journey even before Arnel, but let's be honest Journey is already in its extinction phase that's why they are lookingfor a vocalist.. and thanks to Arnel...
@Invencible lol.. nobody argues who the original is, but who you think made Journey alive again..
Appreciate your vocals Arnel.
I love this band. I grew up listening to their songs. (Im 43 now). I wish i didnt know about all their issues and with little research found out they have had a lot over the decades. I just want to enjoy their music. I hope they are able to work it out and they have such great talents. I love Arnel too.
Neal Schon's spending spree on collector EXPENSIVE guitars in the hundreds of thousands each was draining the groups funds. He was cut off which Neal stated Jonathon had no right to do that. I aggree with Jonathan when you have someone spending cash with no limit you have to stop the leaking drain. He is trying to protect the bands funds. Neal is arguing both have control over the bands financials equally and Johnathan is over stepping his authority and why the leagal affairs are implemented. I don't blame Arnel for wanting to be fired or he will probably quit all the drama. He is an amazing talent and will be scooped up by other artists.
Neal Schon and his wife are so entitled. Neal needs to remember a band is more than a guitar solo. They are lucky to have Ariel. Common even Steve Perry won’t sing at the Rock and Roll hall of fame. I’m pretty sure we all know why that is.
Sorry Ginger but Neal spent the last frign 50 years earning that entitlement and he hired John and brought him in so he can and will do what he wants. He has been fighting and keeping the band alive. Sorry but how would you feel if you found out your friend decided to add his girlfriend to your checking account, wouldn't feel good would it. More going on than you think.
@@waynedragon7432 Yeah, sorry Wayne, but without a Steve, or Arnel, Neil is just another guitar player in a band.
They couldn't even tour and play their hits without the voice of the band.
This is so embarrassing for all parties
Rock Band 🎸 Rules #74 - No wives allowed in negotiations Period !!!
Exactly..,..
Sounds like a certain someone 's wife is the problem here....
Do I hear Yoko ?
Would love to have seen Rolie instead of that putz they have standing around in the background. That being said, I will be firmly in Arnel's camp. The other two are idiots. This isn't about a credit card, it's about political leanings.....
@@MrJohnnyace777 Do i hear Mrs Osbourne?
Been watching this band since the beginning. They are all excellent musicians, but with that comes attitude. They need to remember they need each other to complete the equation. “ The Whole is Greater then the Sum of its parts it’s made of” ( Stephen Swartz). The group should have a sit down…..no wives or girlfriends…..clear the air or these things will becomes toxic.
Arnel can do his own show if he is tired of the drama, he can sing lots of other things besides journey, maybe even some original tracks.
I ran into Neal Schon at a club in Studio City Ca back in the early 90s. He was so drunk he could barely stand up. Tried to shake his hand and he ignored me, then stumbled into the men’s room. Never cared for the band after that.
It’s not Journey. Without “ Steve Perry “. That’s me. Saw them in 83. Great band great songs. Miss you Steve. !!!!!!!!!!!
Well I saw them in 2009 and I loved that performance! Pineda and Castronuovo are good singers. Steve left unfortunately.
@@hendrikom Yes , that is a fact. Not saying that the other singers were bad. I have seen them perform and their vocals were very good.
Arnel has an incredible voice...it would be Journeys loss at this point.
Fergie Fredericksen would've been a perfect alternate Journey singer as well. Though it's a shame he's no longer with us
If they lose Pineda they're finished.
@@marsha-madness-super-badness You never know if they bring back Steve
@@techminds1579 That would definitely save them 🤔 But, barring that they're done without their current singer.
@@techminds1579 I'd pay big money to see Steve sing with them again...
Please don't quit right now this is my first time going to the concert my take my daughter is taking me I'm 41 years old never been to a concert and always wanted to go to see journey and she's actually take me actually tomorrow and Washington DC so please don't quit now
Saw them last night in South Florida. There was no indication that anything was amiss, and they performed a great show. Arnel is every bit the front man that Steve Perry was - I've seen them in concert over 45 years. I honestly prefer the lineup with him.
Arnel good but no Steve Perry
We love Journey ,we love Arnel he can live his own life.move on people.🎹🎶🙏
I stopped listening to journey in the early 80’s when I moved into listening to alternative, punk, post-punk music. With that said, to me journey will only be journey with Perry. All of their most iconic songs were sung by him. Glad to see the band continued on after he left but these grown men are acting like 12 year olds on the playground. Be grateful for what you have.
I can honestly say as a drummer/ musician myself, when it comes to the original sound of the journey, ARNEL is doing his job and then some. JOURNEY will always be a great band and to try and continue a legacy the issue might be personal problems amongst the band because maybe they have a luxurious lifestyle. I personally have come a long way with work and life balance and one thing I have learned is that work life and personal life are 2 different things. I feel if ARNEL has done the best he can do and it is not good enough time for him to move on.
yesterday was a good day, its feb 23 and got you on my mind, stay with me and never go away
I agree, Arnel has. I thing to prove. He has been the lead for long enough to not have to worry about a thing. He gets better all the time.
Amel is an outstanding vocalist . It would be THEIR loss if he leaves or is let go . And Neal Schon needs to tell his wife to STFU !
But he wouldn’t do that bu I think Neal has a huge ego and it’s his ego that is killing the band
Both Schon and Cain need to tell their wives to STFU.
Arnel has stayed the longest among Journey's vocalist. I believe the other member of journey shld control his wife from posting issues that can ruin the other members, even if it's not Arnel. They shld have had learned their lessons in the past years. Arnel Pineda is known to be a kind humble soul. Even Chicago likes him and some other good bands. If not for Arnel, Journey wouldn't have been able to rescucitate their careers a long a time ago. Arnel is the one singing the songs infront of the audience. He is the face of the band and Neil's wife shld be reminded where they get their money from.
Greg Rolie was the original lead singer of Journey, not just a keyboardist.
Journey, would be so lucky to have Greg Rollie sing with Journey again, loved his voice and great smile he's a great piano player. Greg Rollie is a very talented individual. Dont let greed get in the way of long lasting friendships. As far as Arnel he protected the Journey Legacy and deserves the respect of Johnathan Cain and Neal Schon and if both of them are disrespecting Arnel then they deserve to lose thier fans. As we the Journey fans have loved all members of Journey and it appears thier egos and greed keep getting in the way of the band, AKA known as Journey 😢 how sad, I am seeing Journey in a few days. I hope they don't anger Arnel and he walks out of Journey. Cain and Schon get yourselves in check. Because this news is not good for the future of your band. I am a fan of all those who have served in the Band Journey. This band exist because the fans love your music not your damn drama. Stop the fighting and just sing for the many fans who pay to hear you play and sing.
Jeff Scott Soto is an awesome dude and fantastic talent.
I’ve known Steve Perry for Foolish Heart and I liked him since then. Journey wasn’t known to me until Arnel Pineda became their soloist.
Arnel doesn't deserve this! He is such a great singer and a wonderful guy.
Neal and Jon married two bat crazy women and it's been a struggle ever since. Why is either woman involved in this? Cain's wife reportedly threatened to sue Steve Lukather over some comment he made of her. Keep in mind, Luke's son Trevor married Jon Cain's daughter a few months ago, and Toto is opening for Journey., and she wants to sue Luke? So now it isn't enough to cause a rift in Journey now she has issues with the main man in Toto and her stepdaughter's father in law? Stick a fork in Journey, they're done.
You're completely right. They're two strong contenders to win the Yoko Ono award.
@Tom Dulle: This is about the only balanced, knowledgeable statement here. I admit Schon’s wife is drama, but Paula White? She’s a charlatan. See videos of her here on TH-cam speaking in tongues. She’s made Cain as batshit crazy with the religious zealotry as she is. And they’re both trump supporters. So I can see why Neal has an issue with that.
Wow have times changed. I worked a couple of there shows in the early 2000. I got to run spot on Shaun, then the lead singer. I guess it was to soon to see them without Steve Perry. I was use to the songs sounding one way and it just seemed like I was watching an audition session.
Arnel is great lead singer and Steve perry they are both good singer... but only problem is Neil Schon he did not want arnel to be great he wants arnel down he maybe he is jealous of arnel... we love sir arnel , I saw the journey last concert April 17 here in Matthew Arena Eugene Oregon... The Arena is full... a great concert with toto... ❤❤❤❤
The only way to stay on Neal’s “good side”, is to kiss his ego on a daily basis. Personally, Neal’s the biggest problem with Journey.
Sorry. More corrections. Gregg Rolie was more than the original keyboardist, he is a founder and original member, after leaving Santana with Neal. And he’s a 2 time hall of famer!