Nice review, Dale. I just bought one of these today. Your tip about guarding that hydraulic pump was a great tip. I'll have my dealer install one before delivery as I'll be using this one in the woods.
I bought my ct1025 in May of 2021 and a little over a year later, mine has been reliable as I have almost 100 hours on it. Yes, Dale has noted some of its weak points that I have also found. The fuel filter is plastic and mine was ruined by a pine branch. I replaced it with a metal fuel filter. The fuel lines are exposed in the same manner which could be a potential problem. The filter guard is a must and should come standard, not an accessory. The hydro filter guard will keep your larger hydro filter from being torn off, but it will not protect your hydro filter from damage. Ask me how I know. The hydro filter guard should be more robust to protect anything. My biggest complaint about the 1025 is the rinky dink seat. No one except Kioti compares in lack of comfort as neither have real suspension. Also, the swivel seat for the backhoe is like someone's idea of building a better mouse trap. LOL
The whole tractor is designed by Bobcat, but they're currently being built by Daedong, makers of the Kioti tractor brand. The engine is infact a diesel powered Daedong engine.
I am curious about the curl myself! I find it strange that the brochure says breakout force of 1554 pounds 500mm in front of the pivot but couldn't do that weight with the forks. If you do another video testing it and you can please test what it will curl and lift.
I think the issue with that test your referring too is the weight is too far away with long fork tines. With just the bucket I'm thinking it's closer to the rated force... It's a theory. If I have a chance I will definitely test it! Thanks for the watch
@@daleofalltrades I thought that at first to but when i paused it and looked at the distance I changed my mind. It does not look far enough out on the lever for the weight vs breakout force. Great channel I look forward to watching more videos!
Update on this comment. I will be testing the curl in a future video. I will be looking into all the variables and see if there is an issue with the curl or not. Probably in the spring some time.
@@daleofalltrades hey thought would chime in being I had a 2020 ct1025 , I owned it 14 months and put over 50 hours on it. I owned a Massey gc1705 before that and currently own the John Deere 1025r , so I can literally speak from experience in owning and operating all 3 tractors and comparing these specific models to one another. Let me know if you guys have any questions at all. Ps I had to turn my loader relief valve up a fair bit on the bobcat as it was way under spec when I recieved it from the dealer. That helped a lot for lift capacity. Both the Massey and John Deere are way way stronger in the curl power as is any tractor I personally grew up running. Let me know if you have any questions at all. Cheers
I have this model. The mower is awesome. initially I use it to mow down 2 acres of former cow pasture grasses that were three feet high. I now use it on our lawns and to mow between the garden beds. I have the tiller. It is a work horse and built really well. I have a video posted of the tiller in use. We have one year and 135 hours on ours.
Yes both. I have several videos of taking the mower deck on and off and tilling up the garden. I use the mower to mow my residential lawn as well as the areas between the garden beds
Where did they find the lights they have mounted up above old flasher location. I have a CT1021 myself and tired of fixing broken lights....really like your setup.
Why would a salesman want to sell less? That's odd. It my father's machine and he uses it more than he thought he would. And it's not like it has to stay on when your not using it.
I purchased a CT1021. I had it for 3 weeks and it ran great. Then one day it didn't want to start. I waited for about a half hour and it started fine. I though that was weird. Then about 2 weeks later I was using it and it died after running for a little over 45 minutes. It just cranked and would cough and was chugging black smoke out of the exhaust but would not stay running. After sitting for about 25 minutes I tried it again and it started and ran fine. It did this the next 2 times I used it so I called the dealer and they said bring it in and we will look at it. Well problem is that I am over 2 hours away from the dealership. So I took it in the following weekend and dropped it off. When I dropped it off it has just over 12.4 hours on the meter. After dozens of phone calls and leaving messages and waiting for parts that were on back order because of the made up virus covid, they finally called and said it was all fixed. They did give me a loaner after about 3 1/2 months but it was a weird articulating tractor that weighed like 6000 pounds that destroyed my yard when I tried to drive on the grass... When I got it back 5 MONTHS later (yes, you read that righ,t they had it for just under 5 months) when they delivered it and picked up the turd loaner it has 45.7 hours on it. It started better but still wasn't right. Then last month I went out to use it and it sounded like it had a rod knock.....I climbed under it when it was running an it sounded like it was coming from the rear of the oil pan area. I shut it off and went back under and started wiggling and moving shit and found that all the bolts had sheered out of the secondary clutch and destroyed both surfaces...I called them and told them I was done and they needed to come get this POS and do something about it. They said they could not replace it because it had too many hours on it.....after they put over 33 hours on it....double what I did. Then they tried to give me a ridiculously low offer to buy it back. I dont know if it was a Friday tractor or what but it was the biggest POS I have ever owned. NEVER buy a CT1021 or CT1025...they are nothing but glorified lawn mowers that don't do nearly the lifting capacity they say they will. Ended up trading it in and lost over $5000 on the deal.
Well that's a long and unfortunate story. My father's (the one I reviewed) had an injector that was sticking open (causing heavy smoke) his dealer has been great replaced it under warranty and have not had any issues since. I think we all have horror stories on things we've bought. I totally understand your frustration.
@@tufriverboards2054 You are not the first to note the weak curl even with the bucket. Nedlow Farms has a TH-cam video. What I have found is the bucket will not curl as the first movement with a full load. However, if you boom up say 6", my bucket curls with no problem.
I bought a ct 1025 a year ago. IT has 67 hours on it. Tractor only starts when it feels like it. When you need it the most it won't start. You have to pull connections apart and back together. Ran over small twig in yard no more than 1/4 inch diameter and it broke all blades of hst fan underneath. Following week find hydraulic filter caved in from something kicked up. Local dealer does not stock one part for it. Not even a filter. Do yourself a favor and buy something else. Sorry Bobcat you should have refined this one a little better before selling it to the consumer.
Is the loader valve a pain in the ass to use two functions at once, say curl and lift? Seems like a real pain in the ass on the JD machines. Currently shopping for a SCUT/CUT of some sort.
Nice review, Dale. I just bought one of these today. Your tip about guarding that hydraulic pump was a great tip. I'll have my dealer install one before delivery as I'll be using this one in the woods.
Congrats on the purchase. It's a nice little machine
Did the same thing, Worth every penny!
Very helpful! Thank you
I bought my ct1025 in May of 2021 and a little over a year later, mine has been reliable as I have almost 100 hours on it.
Yes, Dale has noted some of its weak points that I have also found.
The fuel filter is plastic and mine was ruined by a pine branch. I replaced it with a metal fuel filter. The fuel lines are exposed in the same manner which could be a potential problem.
The filter guard is a must and should come standard, not an accessory.
The hydro filter guard will keep your larger hydro filter from being torn off, but it will not protect your hydro filter from damage. Ask me how I know. The hydro filter guard should be more robust to protect anything.
My biggest complaint about the 1025 is the rinky dink seat. No one except Kioti compares in lack of comfort as neither have real suspension.
Also, the swivel seat for the backhoe is like someone's idea of building a better mouse trap. LOL
Thanks for the great comments. All great points that I can agree with. Definitely a great little machine though.
Thanks for the vid, what type of motor is the 3 cylinder who makes it.
The whole tractor is designed by Bobcat, but they're currently being built by Daedong, makers of the Kioti tractor brand. The engine is infact a diesel powered Daedong engine.
Can it dig out a solid creek bottom?
@@suzabakingbaked7975 I don't know. More than likely
I am curious about the curl myself!
I find it strange that the brochure says breakout force of 1554 pounds 500mm in front of the pivot but couldn't do that weight with the forks. If you do another video testing it and you can please test what it will curl and lift.
I think the issue with that test your referring too is the weight is too far away with long fork tines. With just the bucket I'm thinking it's closer to the rated force... It's a theory. If I have a chance I will definitely test it! Thanks for the watch
@@daleofalltrades I thought that at first to but when i paused it and looked at the distance I changed my mind. It does not look far enough out on the lever for the weight vs breakout force.
Great channel I look forward to watching more videos!
Update on this comment. I will be testing the curl in a future video. I will be looking into all the variables and see if there is an issue with the curl or not. Probably in the spring some time.
@@daleofalltrades hey thought would chime in being I had a 2020 ct1025 , I owned it 14 months and put over 50 hours on it. I owned a Massey gc1705 before that and currently own the John Deere 1025r , so I can literally speak from experience in owning and operating all 3 tractors and comparing these specific models to one another.
Let me know if you guys have any questions at all.
Ps I had to turn my loader relief valve up a fair bit on the bobcat as it was way under spec when I recieved it from the dealer. That helped a lot for lift capacity. Both the Massey and John Deere are way way stronger in the curl power as is any tractor I personally grew up running. Let me know if you have any questions at all.
Cheers
@@johndeere2038r thanks for the info I do still plan on doing a video for this issue. The relief valve was one thing I was going to look at.
I have an issue, The ROP has no drain hole in the top so folded down holds water and rusts like crazy!
I know what you're talking about. Not great
Thanks. I’m hoping to buy one of these soon, have you used the lawn mower on it ? Rotor tiller ?
I have not used the rototiller and the mower works great
I have this model. The mower is awesome. initially I use it to mow down 2 acres of former cow pasture grasses that were three feet high. I now use it on our lawns and to mow between the garden beds. I have the tiller. It is a work horse and built really well. I have a video posted of the tiller in use. We have one year and 135 hours on ours.
Yes both. I have several videos of taking the mower deck on and off and tilling up the garden. I use the mower to mow my residential lawn as well as the areas between the garden beds
Where did they find the lights they have mounted up above old flasher location. I have a CT1021 myself and tired of fixing broken lights....really like your setup.
They are cree led fog lights from eBay. Thanks for watching!
@@daleofalltrades Actually I'm referring to the Vertical strip of lights. Thanks!!!
@@shawnpatterson3076 not quite sure where that came from.
@@daleofalltrades ok...thanks a bunch! I'll see if i can find them!
Curious how much you use the backhoe? My salesman actually dissuaded me from getting one.
Why would a salesman want to sell less? That's odd. It my father's machine and he uses it more than he thought he would. And it's not like it has to stay on when your not using it.
I purchased a CT1021. I had it for 3 weeks and it ran great. Then one day it didn't want to start. I waited for about a half hour and it started fine. I though that was weird. Then about 2 weeks later I was using it and it died after running for a little over 45 minutes. It just cranked and would cough and was chugging black smoke out of the exhaust but would not stay running. After sitting for about 25 minutes I tried it again and it started and ran fine. It did this the next 2 times I used it so I called the dealer and they said bring it in and we will look at it. Well problem is that I am over 2 hours away from the dealership. So I took it in the following weekend and dropped it off. When I dropped it off it has just over 12.4 hours on the meter. After dozens of phone calls and leaving messages and waiting for parts that were on back order because of the made up virus covid, they finally called and said it was all fixed. They did give me a loaner after about 3 1/2 months but it was a weird articulating tractor that weighed like 6000 pounds that destroyed my yard when I tried to drive on the grass... When I got it back 5 MONTHS later (yes, you read that righ,t they had it for just under 5 months) when they delivered it and picked up the turd loaner it has 45.7 hours on it. It started better but still wasn't right. Then last month I went out to use it and it sounded like it had a rod knock.....I climbed under it when it was running an it sounded like it was coming from the rear of the oil pan area. I shut it off and went back under and started wiggling and moving shit and found that all the bolts had sheered out of the secondary clutch and destroyed both surfaces...I called them and told them I was done and they needed to come get this POS and do something about it. They said they could not replace it because it had too many hours on it.....after they put over 33 hours on it....double what I did. Then they tried to give me a ridiculously low offer to buy it back. I dont know if it was a Friday tractor or what but it was the biggest POS I have ever owned. NEVER buy a CT1021 or CT1025...they are nothing but glorified lawn mowers that don't do nearly the lifting capacity they say they will. Ended up trading it in and lost over $5000 on the deal.
Well that's a long and unfortunate story. My father's (the one I reviewed) had an injector that was sticking open (causing heavy smoke) his dealer has been great replaced it under warranty and have not had any issues since. I think we all have horror stories on things we've bought. I totally understand your frustration.
Can you change the backhoe pattern from sae to iso
I don't know
update- yes you can you need to change the hoses around
Did they fix weak curl for loader
Hmmm I wasn't aware there was an issue. I hadn't experienced any issues.
Are you referring to when the loader is equipped with forklift tines?
@@tufriverboards2054 You are not the first to note the weak curl even with the bucket. Nedlow Farms has a TH-cam video. What I have found is the bucket will not curl as the first movement with a full load. However, if you boom up say 6", my bucket curls with no problem.
That's ONE of the Hydraulic filters, The other is Under that steel plate
I thought about buying one decided with the rural kind rk24. Better deal yanmar engine same tractor as a mihindra emax and others
I got a new holland workmaster 25s for the yanmar engine, love yanmar.
I accidentally added E85 fuel 3 gallons it started rough but died in a couple minutes left alone. I just realized my mistake. Any ideas
Entire fuel system will need to be flushed, along with a fuel filter change. Take it in for service.
Check the fuel filter if it still has issues check the pick up tube. Could have dirt in the truck and clogged it up or the screen fell off
Bro what
I bought a ct 1025 a year ago. IT has 67 hours on it. Tractor only starts when it feels like it. When you need it the most it won't start. You have to pull connections apart and back together. Ran over small twig in yard no more than 1/4 inch diameter and it broke all blades of hst fan underneath. Following week find hydraulic filter caved in from something kicked up. Local dealer does not stock one part for it. Not even a filter. Do yourself a favor and buy something else. Sorry Bobcat you should have refined this one a little better before selling it to the consumer.
Is the loader valve a pain in the ass to use two functions at once, say curl and lift? Seems like a real pain in the ass on the JD machines. Currently shopping for a SCUT/CUT of some sort.
I can see where the loader would be tricky to use to functions at once
@@daleofalltrades I think theyre mostly referring to jerkiness, rather than smooth operation like say a skidsteer or mini excavator
8:05 they were wondering where to put it, some guy said "what's the absolute worst place for a hydraulic filter? Put it there"
They are build by kioti .
Yup
Turned off 2 minutes in. You're not Stephen Spielberg, cut the fluff and music get to review
@@bradfigiel2203 and yet you waisted your precious time with a comment.
Are these bobcat tractors rebranded kitoi's? I believe they are.
Designed by Bobcat, but they're currently being built by Daedong, makers of the Kioti tractor brand. The engine is infact a Daedong engine.