8:28 I’m so happy someone explained this. Yuta’s curse technique isn’t Rika, it’s copy. The way I see it, post time skip Rika is almost like a bank. She’s something that stores Yuta’s CE, weapons and techniques.
Not only does she hit harder, she's faster and multiple times more durable it would seem. Especially since she can re charge Yuta and sustain herself Enough to fight right after. I know Yuta stores his energy within her, but it would seem she can also use her own energy to help Yuta as well. While taking some serious damage in the same battles.
You can have more than 1 CT. Copy is his innate technique, whike Rika is his secondary CT. Examples are Kenjaku, who to my understanding has body swapping as his innate technique, but can also use anti-gravity and curse manipulation. Sukuna, whose innate technique isn't shown in the story, with cleave/dismantle as his secondary, the flame technique, and 10 shadows on top of that as well
@@shyysteebleedem I'm well aware. It just shows the brain is capable of containing more than 1 CT. Yuki also commented on it, saying that 4 was unlikely and would fry the normal persons brain if they tried to achieve somethng like that
Can I add I Don't understand where people think Yuta had a hard time with Ryu in a 1v1? Yuta at this point just finished slaughtering tons of sorcerers (i forget how many points he had by the time he killed Dhruv, someone with a troublesome technique) had a very reckless mindset where his goal was to speed blitz the entire colony...Yes he was sane but he ignored all calls for caution and just decided to go in to secure the points. This he stated himself. Now add in the fact that he fought at least 4 special grades within a short span. Dhruv dead and then the basically 1v3 fight since it's clear that everyone there was targeting Yuta for some reason(he had to throw Uro at Kuroushi just to keep 2 of them off him). Forced to his rct many times as he attempted to fight without his technique at first and without partial Rika as she protects the citizens. After realizing it was a little too reckless he finally calls in Rika and proceeds to dismantle the whole fight. He even "allowed" Ryu his wish of having a good fight. I don't see how you can interpret that as anything less then Yuta letting Ryu get it out his system. I mean it is akin to an adult letting a child think they had a fair shot in a video game or something. Yes Ryu blasts were powerful, but with the context it is just heavily implied Yuta took it easy at the end allowing Ryu to get his fill all while trying not to kill everyone there besides Kuroushi. All of this just leads to Yuta didn't go all out, at all in any point of the fight as his main goal was acquiring points. Add in his domain expansion and whatever techniques and tools he has that we haven't seen and its just obvious to me that Yuta is miles ahead of whatever the fanbase is trying to portray him as. Stated as the second strongest by many, and the one time there is a statement to claim someone contests him for second is by the kind kid himself and was quickly disagreed within by someone who has seen both of their strengths. No Yuta cant compete with Gojo or Sukuna, but context is heavily ignored by the fanbase and he is definitely stronger then what people try to claim.
I'd also put Yuta a bit below Kenjaku personally. Not to diminish or downplay Yuta at all, but Kenjaku is a genuine monster in Geto's body. He managed to 2v1 Choso and Yuki and only got scared by a suicide attack black hole
@@tatersalad76 I can agree that there is a good chance Kenjaku can solo Yuta. I do have some arguments that he would lose though. Choso was never much of a threat to him in the first place, his concern at actually being able to beat Yuki, and the the argument that Yuki might of won if she hadn't relied on Tengen breaking Kenjaku's barrier. That was the big play for Kenjaku was the domain sure hit. Yuta's rct is superior to Yuki's and I see no reason why Yuta wouldn't reverse the domain damage (this felt like such an unnecessary L on Yuki and her decision making) Yuta is also most likely capable of one-shoting any curse Kenjaku has at his disposal with positive energy as I highly doubt any curse in Kenjakus repertoire is stronger then Kuroushi. Overall Yuta has a lot more at his disposal to deal with the many problems Kenjaku can throw at him. All that being said, I'm sure Kenny has more stuff up his sleeve and still has a solid chance of beating the kid prodigy
@@tatersalad76I disagree. Yuta is the literal counter to Kenjaku and his CT's. Kenjaku downplaying Yuta will be his downfall. His ability to adapt copied CT on the fly mid battle makes him a beast.
@@tatersalad76Didnt yuta three shot choso after he got done “executing” yuji? I don’t know why people don’t use this for scaling more. He literally blitzed choso with a single hand while holding yuji in the other
The thing is, you can't judge a 1v1 with toji because he's a hunter, not a fighter. He won't face anyone strong straight on, just like gojo, because if he did he would lose.
“He won’t face anyone strong straight on” false. You literally choose the strongest character in JJK. With one of the rarest and strongest techniques. Usually a 6 eyes user will have ONLY 6 Eyes or ONLY Limitless. Because it is extremely RARE for one to have both, so when Gojo was born, his very existence shifted the balance in power between curses and curse users vs Jujutsu Sorcerers He WILL fight anybody strong head on, example: Suguru Geto he didn’t know how many curses Geto had for all he knew Geto could’ve had multiple special grade curses, Dagon he destroyed in seconds in his own domain , even with Gojo he was very VERY aggressive with Inverted Spear of Heaven. Also he’s both a hunter and a fighter. You can’t HUNT without knowing how to fight. This sounds stupid
@@smoker9548…..I thought the ost,the lighting in da background and everything was perfect,the only thing I can see ppl complaining about is the way the va said it but I thought the scene was pretty awesome
Yuta is a hard combatant to analyze considering his Arsenal is virtually endless with lots of unknown curse techniques and curse tools. There’s also his domain, and while we know Toji would be immune to sure hit attacks, that’s only if the domain specifically targets humans or is strictly offensive in nature.
@@erich9983 he commented that, the point he's making is if Yuta's domain is like Hakari's, where there is no target. One concept is that he and Rika have free access to all his cursed techniques at once and just spams them, does'nt need to be a target, in that scenario Yuta would just get an amp like Hakari does and therefor Tojis immunity to sure hits is irrelevant.
One thing I would like to add about Meguna one shotting Ryu is that the panel shows three different slash wounds across his face, meaning that Meguna most likely used "Dismantle" A Cursed Technique. Which further supports that against Maki and Yuji, it was his cursed energy output, not his physical stats that were nerfed.
But curse energy is used to enhance a sorcerer physical stats also if he has curse energy output he would be able to hit or move as hard/fast. So technically his physical abilities did get nerfed
@kirayoshikage8007 Curse energy output relates to what he can expend through cursed techniques or the like. His cursed energy itself wasn't nerfed so no, his reinforcement for physical stats both offensively and defensively would have stayed the same.
I wished Yuta would have copied Aoi's "boogie woogie". It would have been the most useful with him like curse speech. Toji was in his late 30's to mid 40's in his prime. Maki with 16 years is said to be equally to Toji so there's still much crazy room to grow when they're at Gojo's age. By the way love your JJK scaling videos. Just as professional as Black Clover content.
@@Br0ku about Aoi Todo I feel the same as Fuegoleon Vermilion. He had a strong, straight forward character. Unshakeable man of honor but stopped being relevant at a certain point in the story. They just fell off the power curve.
For maki the only think she can improve on are things that only come with experience, like battle IQ and decision making. She is at her peak physically just like toji was, meaning that their heavenly restriction basically unlocked their full potential already.
One thing I really wonder about is if people really think that Maki can beat Yuta. Yes Maki is incredibly strong but can she really beat Yuta if he decides to go all out ? I know that some people mocks Yuta because of Gojo vs Sukuna and how he is scared that Gojo's may die but my man is actually broken and wasn't trying to kill Ruy or Uro which shows that in reality he is way stronger than we saw during that fight.
@@Br0ku Which is crazy to me, but everyone is entitled to have their opinions right or wrong. Anyway thanks for the heart and the video, my view on Yuta vs Toji hasn't changed since I always believed that Yuta was stronger even though the fight would be difficult for him.
Maki having direct speed scaling to 15 finger Sukuna puts her in perception blitz territory against him and she has a tool that completely negates durability, why are you surprised people think she can beat Yuta lol...
@@anthonylee5541 most translations say that Sukuna was nerfed for his stats to be less than 10%. She likely has no actual scaling to full power 15 finger Sukuna.
It's strange when people disregard Maki and Toji's greatest strength, that they are almost invisible to sorcerers and basically impossible to track their movements for anyone other than the six eyes. Toji's statements about his plan imply that the biggest hurdle he had to overcome in order to complete his mission was Gojo's six eyes, and not necessarily the limitless. Toji had an easy solution for the limitless, but the six eyes' sensory abilities still made it so he couldn't use his stealth the way he wanted to. I think Toji wins literally every time against Yuta just because Yuta cannot track or sense him, and because through Maki vs. Curse Naoya, they seem to have higher speed than Yuta does.
Toji was compared to 3f Sukuna while Yuta was compared to 15f Sukuna. If the author didn’t want those analyses taken as face value he wouldn’t had Megumi and Yuji make them. First off Megumi is known as a smart, tactical and analytical fighter. He proved fighting Kamo in the Kyoto Goodwill Exchange Event. During the Shibuya Incident he was the one to figure out Awaska, (inverse CT) worked. In the Perfect Preparation arc he figuring out how Kirara CT and during the Culling Games he was able to strategize his fight with Reggie to setup an environment to win. Megumi capable of analyzing Toji like any other opponent. As for Yuji Sukuna was inside his body and Sukuna made sure he knew what he did in Shibuya. He also understands and knows enough about curse energy to judge. There’s no reason not to believe Yuji assessment is spot on. Fans go crazy over powerscalling and think there opinions and theories are canon. I’ll take the author word spoken through his characters over fans head canon.
@pardue23 the comparison to 3 fingers sukuna is much looser than you're making it out to be, and there are different lines of scaling to use that you're ignoring megumi doesn't have a sense of how fast sukuna or toji are exactly. it's not author's statement to say toji = 3 fingers sukuna, when all megumi says about it is that he's similar to the fastest thing he's ever fought. second, we know that toji is faster than naoya and naobito through the statement that toji could have easily wiped up the zen'in clan whenever he wanted, but chose not to, and naobito is the fastest sorcerer alive (behind gojo satoru) which is a direct statement from the narrator and the author, which you can use to verify that toji (and maki) are faster than yuta.
@@bruhfunnybruhmemesandmore8074 There nothing in those chapters that imply that those analyses were not accurate. Gege established that Megumi has a good battle IQ and can clearly assess the situation. You don’t have to be faster than someone to defeat them. There’s many manga/anime where a fast character was defeated by a slower character. Also Maki had trouble with Naoya speed. She was finally able to strategize against it. It doesn’t make her faster than that person.
@pardue23 Toji seemingly would have had no problem with the 2nd fastest sorcerer alive, while yuta was alive, and the maki who had trouble with naoya was not enlightened the way toji was yet. all toji needs to defeat anyone is to be faster than them if he has the soul liberation blade, which can cut the soul and negate any durability yuta might have. also yuta won't be able to easily track or sense toji's approach at all. if you read the chapter where megumi makes the comparison, all he says is that it's "like that time" and not exactly the same as sukuna's level of speed at 3 fingers. toji pulled megumi out of that building before he could even perceive what was going on, he couldn't have been exactly accurate
Sukuna's cursed energy was not limited, it was just the output agaisnt Megumi's friends, which made it difficult to injure Maki and Yuji with his technique. He was still in 15 finger capacity, just not with his techniques. Speed, power and strenght were still available to him. I would say it goes: Yuta-Maki-Rika-Gojo(inventory)-Toji(Inventory). Reversed techniques are that much of a problem for any enemy to work around it.
I think there is two points needed to be addressed regarding the sukuna scaling. The nerf was regarding his curse technique while his base stats were fine. However Ryu was scared of sukuna. Mental state is constantly displayed to fluctuate the power of people in jjk and sukuna's curse energy alone causes alot of fear, debuffing ryu who literally has the highest output of CE. But either way, one can literally just use the narrative argument that yuta is the leader of the 3 big hitters, meaning yuta is relative to prime toji at least, and prime toji> HI arc toji
Probably 🤷♂️ Yuta has only been a Jujutsu sorcerer for a year. ONE YEAR!! And he’s arguably the second strongest person alive. The only thing holding him back is his passive personality.
The only problem I have with the toji = 10% of 15f sukuna is right after, the story stated his speed and strength is fine, so it’s just his CE output that’s weakened. So yes maki would scale similar PHYSICALLY to a 15f sukuna, the only reason why though is because his ce output was lowered. If sukuna could use either CT’s with full output both yuji and maki would’ve died then and there very fast, which is why I personally say she doesn’t scale that high, she can contend in h2h, but with his CT’s she gets washed
CE output = speed and strength though, logically speaking. Remember Yuta can throw around cars like they are nothing despite being a physically weak person, all because of his CE output.
@@visionaryvjae5641 broku is saying there are debates on whether that chapter was mistranslated as the actual Japanese translated chapter that fans had translated to a language for us to read actually said that Megumi lowered sukuna cursed energy output for his CURSED TECHNIQUE not cursed energy output for his body strength but the translated chapters we read said something else.So it is debatable whether sukuna scales to maki due to English mistranslations
@@visionaryvjae5641 go back and read chapter 215 page 3, it says “my cursed energy output is fluctuating. At it’s lowest, it’s under 10%, but my physical movement seems to be normal.” Idk if you comprehend that but what I’m saying is, is that’s not right. If his output is lowered, why would his speed be normal? It’s because there’s a mistranslation. Even other viz translators commented on how wrong jjk is half the time. The Japanese version said it’s lowered through his ct only. Which is what I believe to be the case. H2h he’s fully powered, as you can see yuji is at a level where 2finger sukuna punching him should not send him across the city. But it did. If he could use his CT’s at full blast, along with his speed, they would’ve gotten smoked
@@saucekay6793 speed doesnt have anything to do with output, if so then yuta and ryu would be the fastest but they r not. so maki did match up with 15f's speed
I don’t understand why people say Gojo barely won therefore Yuta would lose as if it was the same Gojo. Pre awakening Gojo got murdered, post awakening Gojo was monologuing while dodging
Something i feel like should be noted is that Sukuna fought Ryu to kill immediately while Yuta fought both of them to simply win. It was even stated that Yuta couldve fired his blast at Ryu early to gain a significant upper hand/win the battle, but he specifically chose not to because he knew Ryu just wanted to indulge. I feel like if Sukuna was fighting with a similar handicap in mind it wouldnt have looked like such a no diff either, especially if he had to go against both of them.
Yuta has too much stuff in his arsenal I got him winning, a lot of fans use toji messing up a teen a gojo with no reverse curse technique, no purple, no red, no domain, and no teleportation as a reason to put him above yuta when the scaling back then does not translate to the modern point of the story I would even argue Adult geto from volume 0 can take out toji which yuta beat prove me wrong.
I don't understand the statement that "gojo barely defeated toji". I know it's to hype toji up but this was simply a scenario where an exhausted teenager gojo who had been maintaining his technique non-stop for like 3 days with no sleep I believe was beaten by a full-grown Toji who had studied gojo and sent hundreds of enemies towards him to exhaust him and left him half dead, then this barely recovered half-dead gojo easily swept the floor with toji, like, toji didn't even land a single hit in that rematch and was deleted in a few minutes. The 1st time, yea, Gojo was defeated, but if we're talking about gojo when he was prepared for toji and had perfected his reversed cursed energy, that was an ez win for gojo tbh (I will admit toji's skills lie in his hunting strategies and stuff, but in combat he was never near gojo, not even pre-enlightened, he just planned so much ahead that gojo couldn't react)
I think rika is relative to a not trying gojo as gojo says alot he would struggle against someone as he said mahoraga would prove a challange than recently bassicly one shot him while weakened and gojo was also trying to make yuta take his rika situation more seriously bassicly trying to scare him
The only issue I have here is using Gojo being tired to downplay Toji. The entire plan to tire him out was for the very surprise attack you showed. Even Toji said that he planned on killing him with that strike and that he must have been getting rusty. After that Gojo being tired doesn't matter as much cause the six eyes would still be making his CE usage efficient and his infinty would be on. Kid Gojo was able to sense the dude cause he was just standing there. He wasn't speeding around like he was in the fight. Even Gojo confirms that Toji's speed is a huge factor to why he couldn't track him. Other than that I do agree that Yuta basically has none of the weaknesses teen Gojo had with even better experience fighting much better opponents even physical fighters.
Toji was still able to sneak up on Gojo to land that attack, which means if prime Toji got spotted, but a Toji that's "rusty" was still able to sneak up on gojo, it still shows that Gojo was heavily nerfed. Furthermore, yes his speed was a factor, but even then Toji had to use the buildings, trees, and cursed spirits, as well as the threat of going after Riko for Gojo to not spot him, and then kill him.
I think that's just your interpretation. No sleep for 48 hours would affect you in every way in a fight. Decision making, reflexes, as well as precise control over something like CE
Even if Toji wields the inverted spear or the soul liberation blade in Yuta’s domain, he will be detectable for sure but the guaranteed hit still wouldn’t reach him because he himself will does not have cursed energy so it can’t lock on to him if that’s the case Maki would’ve been hit by Naoya’s domain but she didn’t; Toji wouldn’t have to stab the domain with inverted spear to escape the domain as he does not possess any cursed energy so he can go in and out of barriers like he did Jujutsu high’s barriers and Maki did the culling games
what would have happen if she were to stay alive? And how would that change the series including how the rest of the groups would interact the rest of the groups?
Regarding the Volume 0 scene where Gojo said "he and yuta might die, if rika comes out" i think that was referencing his meeting with the higher-ups of jujutsu society? Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
Enlightened gojo was stated to be on part with toji Toji was just blind sided because he IQ nerfed himself and went head strong into the fight due to his sorcerer vendetta Also toji was not "not confidant" he just noticed how big of a deal it was for kid gojo to notice him exist as he says gojo is the only one where that ever happened he prides himself in being the invisible man. he is an assasin first and he is a very optimal individual so it would be that if you fight someone who detect you despite the fact you are meant to be hiding you need to do something about that Also i think tojis mindset with how he hated the jjk world for all its glory that they egoed on those lesser he would be more inclined to take this approach as such his entire lifestyle Maki fighting sukuna shows as only the output when attacking them with cursed techniques was nerfed not all of him and again in the manga its stated that gojo was on par with toji after he became enlightened we know this because pre awakened gojo got no diffed by him so the speech on the narration was implying post reverse gojo
Toji's unease didn't nerf him in round 2, he was like this from the start. When Toji's having his monologue he talks about how he shouldn't have even accepted the job to begin with. The reason Toji accepted this job was out of pride since he could go against the strongest and spit on the jujutsu world, but he had already given up that type of life and pride when he met Megumi's mother, but he went back to it again due to this opportunity to go against Gojo. Toji was nerfed from the moment he accepted the star religious group's job. Also in the fight against Sukuna, Sukuna states he's at 10% of his regular amount of CE amount, but his control over Megumi's body is unaffected, meaning he can move however he wants. After this, Maki joins the fight and Sukuna states that Megumi further nerfs his output even more when Sukuna is about to use a CT on his friends, so Sukuna throughout the fight is at around 10% his max CE amount, and even lower when he tries to use CTs on Maki or Yuji.
@@quasogod Toji was mentally nerfed + Taken by suprise go read the manga narration if you dontt understand that Getting duped by hollow purple isnt a dupe despite gojo's new strength and speed toji himself even was like this isnt an isssue It was the fact that he was acting dumb because of his pride and vendetta against sorcerers. if you read the manga the narration actually says they fought evenly IQ nerf is a nerf none the less int he world of jjk where techniques matter rushing into the unknown like a dumbass is a nerf he knew that which is why he has his bad feeling but he pushed it aside for his pride
@@inyalgaico1563 toji still lose against gojo satoru, thats just it also, it was never stated that they fought "evenly" even a child can point out that gojo absolutely bitch slapped him after the awakening also, theres no "mental nerf" or "IQ nerf" he tried to prove himself, he tried to defeat the strongest person on earth in modern days, and he failed himself
@@quasogod If u ever had a serious fight in your life u should know that this "mental nerf" does exist and it really does nerf u a lot, and the point is that Toji's pride and mentality did nerfed him a lot and is what made the 2°round look like that. If he didnt had nerfed himself like that he would be atleast a decent headache to enlightened Gojo, despite Gojo wining without any doubt.
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the unusual ability thing has been confirmed as a mistranslation him being second is more consistent also narrativeley its very obvious that gege is saying hes the second strongest
its more likely that sukuan output of cursed was 10% not the physical stats because he said that after using his CT not before that ,especially after switching hands with yuji
In regards to stamina, isn’t the thing about the six eyes that it makes you expend a lot less cursed energy than you would otherwise? Isn’t that why Yuta would run out of cursed energy quicker than Gojo despite having more? Therefor it wouldn’t be far fetched to think Yuta would be affected worse by the constant fighting than Gojo was
Broku do you think that if Toji is using his hidden inventory curse that yutas sure hit (depending on what it is) would also hit Toji because of the close proximity l?
@@Br0ku I was thinking like if yutas sure hit was a beam or whatever and he targeted it at the cursed spirit in tojis shoulder would it hit him? Similar to how gojo sensed Toji because of the curse on his shoulder.
I don’t think it really matters, from what he know, if toji attacks yuta while the domain is active, it’s the same as him accepting the terms and entering the domain himself. Sure he’d bypass the sure hit, but yuta who could (potentially) already scale higher than maki still (being that he was holding back against ryu), with the domain boost toji would get folded, plus his CT’s would probably get a 120% boost. Plus toji is rusty so he most likely wouldn’t cut yuta’s head off instantly, any damage other than that yuta can heal from
@@saucekay6793 really do you remember where that is stated or shown? Also I’m not disagreeing with the overall outcome just proposing a hypothetical situation
@@powerscallop3596 chapter 198, story doesn’t state it, it shows it, once she attacks she starts to show up in the domain and says that only happens when she consents. So it’s safe to assume once she throws an attack once inside the domains barriers she consents. The only thing that didn’t target her was the sure hit, but she was enclosed in the domain. I understand this could be argued but the story shows a lot of things instead of telling it, which I think this is an example of, because if she could attack and not consent then she’d just remain invisible
Is Rika a cursed technique, or a curse seperately? Im confused on exactly what she is now that the soul left, i think its a curse right? not a technique.
Gojo doesnt get tired from fighting the curse user and isnt exhausted from cursed energy, he gets tired of not sleeping for two whole days and constanly using his technique to always be on guard againts attacks. Remember using your technique nonstop can tire your brain causing it to stress and Gojo is extremly sleep deprived.
Tbh toji looses to cursed speech. He cant depend himself from it very since i think ya need cursed energy to do so tbh tho maybe his passive enhanced physiology helps and his inventory curse gets insta killed by it meaning that toji looses all the tools besides the one or 2 that he has out at the time and cant hot swap nearly as well. Toji would want to prevent that and honestly he would go for the insta kill suprise attack its his only way. Likely yeah while he is distracted by other sorcerers.
I’m fairly sure the Rika cursed spirit if shikigami we see in the main series is much weaker than the one in volume zero because the original rika was exorcized while you did touch on this momentarily you continued to use volume 0 statements and feats to scale current rika. Not that it changed the result very much
Toji and Maki are invisible to domains, especially considering Yutas domain is going to be copy related. His domain shouldn't be a factor on Yutas side
The only way Toji beats Yuta is if he goes all in gets in his bag and goes all out from the start and just goes for the kill while he sends some else for Riko so Rika is forced to protect her. In a battle of attrition you ain’t beating Yuta. He gets infinite recharge on cursed energy from Rika so he’s never out of CT. He also has RCT which recovers a majority of damage. And most of all some insanely useful curse techniques in his disposal like Curse Speech which Toji can’t guard, Sky manipulation which basically gives Yuta a “Guard bypass”, deflection against ranged attacks, and Dhruvs Shikigami that may not seem like much but are useful in slowly weakening and draining your opponents.
Broku do u think maki is stronger than yuta Am curious Because "the guy with pencil" in his channel said yuta is not winning against her. Am curious to hear it thought.
The thing is if maki is relative to toji And toji is still not winning against yuta, so it got me thinking 🤔 how maki stronger 💪 than yuta . Love this video 😍.. Because there are still channels like urs who still think yuta is HIM. others have lost faith and are clowning on our boy
Now that the anime is over, absolutely. It wouldn’t even be difficult. Now that we know they watched the gojo vs sukuna fight INSIDE of rika. They could transport her that way, and yuta himself, particularly if he fully manifests her (she wasn’t when they used her as a hiding place) toji couldn’t beat them both head on anyway, add that to the transporting/hiding him and his great rct, it only works for toji if he can sneak up and kill yuta outright since no limitless is there. Yuta is stronger than that gojo, (headcanon to be fair). It would just be much harder to corner and kill him as he can heal, be transported by rika etc. unless somehow the spear can shut rika down. I think yuta may even be as good with a sword too.
Now what if. Toji does have a curse technique but cant use it because his heavenly restriction is zero curse energy. But doesnt Yuta have to see it being use and then have rika consume a piece of the person so i guess either way he cant use it.
Since sukuna's mummy corps is equal to 1 finger sukuna does that mean sukuna with his original body is physically stronger than any of his versions and have more CE output ?
Don't forget original Sukuna had 4 arms and eyes that give far more versatilely in battles. I think Sukuna in Yuji was physically stronger than inside Megumi. Sure he can try to reenforce with cursed energy but needs every ounce for his fight with Gojo. A adult Yuji would be near a Toji. Sukuna could have made use of this but he was too impatient.
Alot of fans don't seem to understand his actual cursed ability is to copy, not to summon rekia. Even more don't seem to understand she is multiple times stronger then Yuta himself.
Yes, but Yuta himself went alone bodying idk how many sorcerers and cursed spirits alone. Then proceeded to fight a special grade curse, Oro(hein era , sukuna execution squad member), and Ryo(record holder for cursed energy output). Whilst also trying not to kill Oro and Ryo. And only puts on the ring at the end after being forced to span RCT( because of the situation, not the power of the enemies), and using domain expansion. Rested Yuta vs Ryu is not even a fight, and makes ppl underestimate him
If toji used the same strat on yuta its less likley to work becuase along woth stamina Yuras copy technique means the 48 hours of weak sorcerers gives Yuta an influx of new techniques to copy which makes him even less predictable and harder target
@@vfxamin ima keep it real I dont think she is. Since the only curses we've seen use DA are the disaster curses and they display a much higher intelligence than rika and all other cursed spirits. Not to say she couldnt for sure but in the case she got loose from yuta and attacked gojo I dont see her learning domain amp on the fly like that.
@@plab1151 nah she probably could if yuta explained to her how to do it...being the simp that she is she would make sure she got the hang of Domain Amplification...yuta could say if you learn this I'll love you more lol and she would...
The only person that can catch toji comin up behind them is gojo, and toji was unsure if he cld beat gojo soo he came up with multiple strategies that would ensure his victory as seen when he low diffed everybody, if toji has knowledge on yutas ability i believe he gets assassinated easy
JJK 0 Rika had her own curse energy this new Rika stores Yuta's and uses his which is why she can run out of it. Current Rika is a curse technique vs JJK 0 who's a vengeful curse spirit. Current Rika and JJK 0 are different in power.
current Rika is not a cursed technique, that was a mistranslation. I also don't think there is valid evidence that current Rika is weaker. Not that i've seen.
wasnt it originally that yuta was borrowin rika's insane CE Now that rika is no longer a vengeful spirit Yuta inherited the insane CE reserve and can store it inside Rika
You should read the series more, you left out alot of key points in things that happened in the manga that would affect alot how you explained how this’ll go. Like Yuta’s domain for example, would not be able to do anything to Toji, cuz he has zero cursed energy, Yuta’s domain barrier sure hit wouldn’t be able to target toji, it’ll register him like a building, and toji could either choose to enter the domain or not like how Maki did in cursed spirit Naoya’s Domain. So if yuta is put in a position where he opens his domain and it just doesn’t work on Toji which it won’t, he’d be in a pretty bad spot. I still think Yuta would win tho cuz he’s a genius fighter as well and should be able to figure out toji. Plus he’s just far too versatile and strong for him to loose to Toji He would be able to use his positive energy output to absolutely obliterate the storage curse toji uses , therefore taking away all his weapons which would just end the fight, Toji would loose and die if he doesn’t Run away lol
@@Br0ku just because the sure effect doesnt activate, doesnt mean he still cant aim his domains attack if it has one. Lets say your domains effect is a giant lazar thats sure hit, you could still fire it in his general direction
only reason teen gojo won at the end is because of toji not knowing gojo could've done that at all, we don't know what would have happened if toji knew gojo could do that, he could've dodged it
Even if told you loses as long as he can kill the star plasma vessel, it doesn't matter anymore because she's dead and his job was to protect her in. Anyways. If he does bring another sorcerer that's so sure can distract yuta while he killed the star plasma vessel and did you forget toji is really fast so you can easily kill her and he has a gun he can shoot her from far away
I have a few issues with your arguments though. For one, Yuta has more ce than gojo, but gojo also has better efficiency so these 2 cancel out. Especially as Yuta can't heal his brain. I believe toji has a 80% chance of winning, especially if he uses the split soul katana
The problem with this whole comparison is that unless you r Gojo, Sukuna or Kenjaku then u should just apologize to Yuta for whatever wrong you've committed and hope he let's u go
Rika doesn’t scale to Gojo, it’s just that she is too big to exercise, it’s like saying sukuna’s finger is stronger than Gojo because he can’t destroy them. The reason Suguru would’ve beat Gojo is because he wouldn’t reasonably been able to kill Rika without doing something extreme, like a 200% hollow purple. That being said, Yuta definitely has the tools to beat Tojo easily. Remember, Teen Gojo is worlds stronger than Toji, I’d imagine with how strong Yuta is compared to teen Gojo, he wouldn’t have trouble killing Toji
@@quasogod yeah I agree, it’s more extreme in a sense that it destroyed half of Shibuya when he used it again, so in that sense, I think he can exercise Rika but not without cost
Sincerely we don't know the full power of toji since he was restrained against gojo to the only weapon he had that could surpass infinite and in all other fights he participated he completely smacked his opponent, against yuta he has a much bigger variety of weapons he could use, that's what makes me unsure of who would win but with prep time toji solos.
Considering that getou vs yuta would’ve been a stomp for getou if he had access to a full uzumaki, and the ease in which toji could take care of getou and a gojo that could’ve stopped getou at any point, my money is on Toji😭
Also that same yuta that fought suguro was so inexperienced that he had to learn how to reinforce his body while fighting in addition to not having his current arsenal of curse techniques, also lacking a domain and reverse curse technique
Talking as if Toji wasnt fighting a bunch of kids . Yuta was going toe to toe with Adult geto and he was just learning only a year. Toji would've been blitzed by teen gojo even pre awakened. You have to remember that Toji had to weaken him to fight him. Even implied that Gojo is stronger so he made that plan. Yuta slams toji, I can literally imagine Yuta using curse speech on toji and then boom he's done. Or even when toji covers his ears, yuta and Rika will just jump him. Yuta> second to gojo for a reason.
maki would actually be exactly like toji had she not been born a twin Her heavenly restriction was split between her and her sister meaning neither of them could grow any stronger
@@kitaloveskitkat2252 I worded it incorrectly Maki can't use her heavenly restriction cus mai has cursed energy and a cursed technique And maki can't grow stronger because Mai doesn't And Mai can't grow stronger since Maki cant So one of them had to die for the other to realise their full power
Vis translation is dubious in context, I doubt 1.5 finger Sukuna could trounce Yuji with no problems as he implied he could, doubly doubt 1.5 finder sukuna could go even with Maki and Yuji at the same time, quadruple doubt 1.5 finger sukuna could land the haymaker on Maki that he managed at the end. More likely that it's just the CT that had low output.
that rika that gojo said he'd "Die" to stop him was a different Rika is 1 problem. Since it was the original Rika, not the soul-left Rika. So prob weaker
@@Twix44 Hey man, this is going to be a long read, but it's well reserached, so it'll be worth your time. Try to get through it all, its annoying ik. Let's start. Why Rika is weaker now than prior. #1 Main evidence. Rika no longer has a human soul. Explanation: Rika was previousy a Vengful Spirit, not an actual full on curse. This is distinctly mentioned. As Vengful Spirit's are tethered to a soul, cursed spirits are not. Vengful spirit's are also directly The soul in JJK has strength and power attached too it directly, as mentioned several times by Geto, and Mahito. So losing this power would insunate lost strength. Evidence. Here's a quote. "Orimoto bequeathed the last few vestiges of her will to the cursed spirit, symbolizing a manifestation of her love that she left behind to protect Yuta.[2]" We know that pure-love creates the most powreful vengful spirits, and once manifested, cursed spirits. "Last few vestiges" Directly means, as she's moving on into enlightenment, she left behind what little love she had left. Quite literally meaning, its a weaker love, and a curse with weaker love as its base is weaker than a curse with stronger love. #2 Rika quite literally, the first time she manifested, was manifested for 7:02 minutes. Her new limit of the ring's timer of 5 minutes, is fully new, and wasn't a prior restriction when in vol 0, she was a Vengful Spirit. Again, directly insinuating she had less restrictions, and more power. She was never mentioned to have a 5 minute limit prior to Rika Seperating from her human soul, and becoming purely a cursed spirit. Meaning right off the bat, she was limited, and reduced in how effective Rika could be. #3 Geto mention's this in the volume. "His ability to unconditionally copy techniques and his boundless cursed energy were both the result of him keeping his lovers soul captive." While there are several translations, he clearly is directly mentioning how the SOUL attached is proviing Rika with neigh-infinite Cursed energy at a very minimum, which you could easily then justify power output also being far higher. Of course meaning this is directly connected to the soul. Summary: Rika has no human soul, is weaker. Rika has less love, only small remains. Weaker. Rika was previously uncapped in her time limit, is now capped 5 minutes. Weaker. you've read through this evidence and come too a different conclusion or learned something new.
If rika is relative to Gojo then so is Ryu lmao. Yuta got canonically one shot by Gojo, some volume 0 stuff just doesn’t really make sense. Toji never admitted inferiority to teen gojo, in fact he was excited at the proposition of fighting a fresh gojo. But he’s an assassin not a fighter, and wanted as little resistance as possible. We see that again with Geto. Toji one tapped his strongest curse but still avoided killing Geto so he wouldn’t have to do anymore work.
8:28 I’m so happy someone explained this. Yuta’s curse technique isn’t Rika, it’s copy. The way I see it, post time skip Rika is almost like a bank. She’s something that stores Yuta’s CE, weapons and techniques.
A bank that can also dish out attacks and tank hits at a higher potency than yuta as well
Not only does she hit harder, she's faster and multiple times more durable it would seem.
Especially since she can re charge Yuta and sustain herself Enough to fight right after.
I know Yuta stores his energy within her, but it would seem she can also use her own energy to help Yuta as well.
While taking some serious damage in the same battles.
You can have more than 1 CT. Copy is his innate technique, whike Rika is his secondary CT.
Examples are Kenjaku, who to my understanding has body swapping as his innate technique, but can also use anti-gravity and curse manipulation.
Sukuna, whose innate technique isn't shown in the story, with cleave/dismantle as his secondary, the flame technique, and 10 shadows on top of that as well
@@zillvaanti gravity system is something he stole from Yuji’s Mother.
@@shyysteebleedem I'm well aware. It just shows the brain is capable of containing more than 1 CT. Yuki also commented on it, saying that 4 was unlikely and would fry the normal persons brain if they tried to achieve somethng like that
Can I add I Don't understand where people think Yuta had a hard time with Ryu in a 1v1? Yuta at this point just finished slaughtering tons of sorcerers (i forget how many points he had by the time he killed Dhruv, someone with a troublesome technique) had a very reckless mindset where his goal was to speed blitz the entire colony...Yes he was sane but he ignored all calls for caution and just decided to go in to secure the points. This he stated himself. Now add in the fact that he fought at least 4 special grades within a short span. Dhruv dead and then the basically 1v3 fight since it's clear that everyone there was targeting Yuta for some reason(he had to throw Uro at Kuroushi just to keep 2 of them off him). Forced to his rct many times as he attempted to fight without his technique at first and without partial Rika as she protects the citizens. After realizing it was a little too reckless he finally calls in Rika and proceeds to dismantle the whole fight. He even "allowed" Ryu his wish of having a good fight. I don't see how you can interpret that as anything less then Yuta letting Ryu get it out his system. I mean it is akin to an adult letting a child think they had a fair shot in a video game or something. Yes Ryu blasts were powerful, but with the context it is just heavily implied Yuta took it easy at the end allowing Ryu to get his fill all while trying not to kill everyone there besides Kuroushi. All of this just leads to Yuta didn't go all out, at all in any point of the fight as his main goal was acquiring points. Add in his domain expansion and whatever techniques and tools he has that we haven't seen and its just obvious to me that Yuta is miles ahead of whatever the fanbase is trying to portray him as. Stated as the second strongest by many, and the one time there is a statement to claim someone contests him for second is by the kind kid himself and was quickly disagreed within by someone who has seen both of their strengths. No Yuta cant compete with Gojo or Sukuna, but context is heavily ignored by the fanbase and he is definitely stronger then what people try to claim.
great points
I'd also put Yuta a bit below Kenjaku personally. Not to diminish or downplay Yuta at all, but Kenjaku is a genuine monster in Geto's body. He managed to 2v1 Choso and Yuki and only got scared by a suicide attack black hole
@@tatersalad76 I can agree that there is a good chance Kenjaku can solo Yuta. I do have some arguments that he would lose though. Choso was never much of a threat to him in the first place, his concern at actually being able to beat Yuki, and the the argument that Yuki might of won if she hadn't relied on Tengen breaking Kenjaku's barrier. That was the big play for Kenjaku was the domain sure hit. Yuta's rct is superior to Yuki's and I see no reason why Yuta wouldn't reverse the domain damage (this felt like such an unnecessary L on Yuki and her decision making) Yuta is also most likely capable of one-shoting any curse Kenjaku has at his disposal with positive energy as I highly doubt any curse in Kenjakus repertoire is stronger then Kuroushi. Overall Yuta has a lot more at his disposal to deal with the many problems Kenjaku can throw at him. All that being said, I'm sure Kenny has more stuff up his sleeve and still has a solid chance of beating the kid prodigy
@@tatersalad76I disagree. Yuta is the literal counter to Kenjaku and his CT's. Kenjaku downplaying Yuta will be his downfall. His ability to adapt copied CT on the fly mid battle makes him a beast.
@@tatersalad76Didnt yuta three shot choso after he got done “executing” yuji? I don’t know why people don’t use this for scaling more. He literally blitzed choso with a single hand while holding yuji in the other
The thing is, you can't judge a 1v1 with toji because he's a hunter, not a fighter. He won't face anyone strong straight on, just like gojo, because if he did he would lose.
True, he's an assasin and assassins fight differently
i think toji relies a lot on prep time. like when he fought gojo he knew all the ins and outs of his techniques and prepared well.
Toji's like batman essentially
“He won’t face anyone strong straight on” false.
You literally choose the strongest character in JJK. With one of the rarest and strongest techniques.
Usually a 6 eyes user will have ONLY 6 Eyes or ONLY Limitless.
Because it is extremely RARE for one to have both, so when Gojo was born, his very existence shifted the balance in power between curses and curse users vs Jujutsu Sorcerers
He WILL fight anybody strong head on, example: Suguru Geto he didn’t know how many curses Geto had for all he knew Geto could’ve had multiple special grade curses, Dagon he destroyed in seconds in his own domain , even with Gojo he was very VERY aggressive with Inverted Spear of Heaven.
Also he’s both a hunter and a fighter. You can’t HUNT without knowing how to fight. This sounds stupid
Dagon would like a word with you
they animated toji vs gojo so mf good bro
Yeah!!
they fumbled the honored one tho, common lets be real
@@smoker9548…..I thought the ost,the lighting in da background and everything was perfect,the only thing I can see ppl complaining about is the way the va said it but I thought the scene was pretty awesome
@@smoker9548Huh?! How?
@@joshuaanoruo973people wanted it more focused on the fight but the anime focused on the reverence of the awakening more than the fight
Yuta is a hard combatant to analyze considering his Arsenal is virtually endless with lots of unknown curse techniques and curse tools.
There’s also his domain, and while we know Toji would be immune to sure hit attacks, that’s only if the domain specifically targets humans or is strictly offensive in nature.
We don’t truly know what Yuta’s domain is capable of or looks like so that might be a factor.
Domain doesn't recognize toji and cannot stop toji or even hurt him.
Yeah Toji is able to freely enter and exit domains, as well as being immune to targeting within the domain. He can just leave the domain
@@erich9983 he commented that, the point he's making is if Yuta's domain is like Hakari's, where there is no target. One concept is that he and Rika have free access to all his cursed techniques at once and just spams them, does'nt need to be a target, in that scenario Yuta would just get an amp like Hakari does and therefor Tojis immunity to sure hits is irrelevant.
@jayyrhodes8338 domain doesn't encounter toji that means he can just wait outside until domain ends.
One thing I would like to add about Meguna one shotting Ryu is that the panel shows three different slash wounds across his face, meaning that Meguna most likely used "Dismantle"
A Cursed Technique. Which further supports that against Maki and Yuji, it was his cursed energy output, not his physical stats that were nerfed.
Also the ryu feat was after he took a bath and sunk megumi into the depths of his soul
Stop saying meguna lol
@@HELLISH43what else would you call it
But curse energy is used to enhance a sorcerer physical stats also if he has curse energy output he would be able to hit or move as hard/fast. So technically his physical abilities did get nerfed
@kirayoshikage8007 Curse energy output relates to what he can expend through cursed techniques or the like. His cursed energy itself wasn't nerfed so no, his reinforcement for physical stats both offensively and defensively would have stayed the same.
I wished Yuta would have copied Aoi's "boogie woogie". It would have been the most useful with him like curse speech. Toji was in his late 30's to mid 40's in his prime. Maki with 16 years is said to be equally to Toji so there's still much crazy room to grow when they're at Gojo's age. By the way love your JJK scaling videos. Just as professional as Black Clover content.
that would be awesome maybe he will
@@Br0ku I'm afraid not, Aoi's CT is gone with one of his severed hands
@@Atticus-Catnipp though that is true, it being a fantasy series still makes me think its possible.
@@Br0ku about Aoi Todo I feel the same as Fuegoleon Vermilion. He had a strong, straight forward character. Unshakeable man of honor but stopped being relevant at a certain point in the story. They just fell off the power curve.
For maki the only think she can improve on are things that only come with experience, like battle IQ and decision making. She is at her peak physically just like toji was, meaning that their heavenly restriction basically unlocked their full potential already.
One thing I really wonder about is if people really think that Maki can beat Yuta. Yes Maki is incredibly strong but can she really beat Yuta if he decides to go all out ?
I know that some people mocks Yuta because of Gojo vs Sukuna and how he is scared that Gojo's may die but my man is actually broken and wasn't trying to kill Ruy or Uro which shows that in reality he is way stronger than we saw during that fight.
People do
@@Br0ku Which is crazy to me, but everyone is entitled to have their opinions right or wrong.
Anyway thanks for the heart and the video, my view on Yuta vs Toji hasn't changed since I always believed that Yuta was stronger even though the fight would be difficult for him.
@@augustinyeovanmengomeobame9652 thank you!
Maki having direct speed scaling to 15 finger Sukuna puts her in perception blitz territory against him and she has a tool that completely negates durability, why are you surprised people think she can beat Yuta lol...
@@anthonylee5541 most translations say that Sukuna was nerfed for his stats to be less than 10%. She likely has no actual scaling to full power 15 finger Sukuna.
It's strange when people disregard Maki and Toji's greatest strength, that they are almost invisible to sorcerers and basically impossible to track their movements for anyone other than the six eyes. Toji's statements about his plan imply that the biggest hurdle he had to overcome in order to complete his mission was Gojo's six eyes, and not necessarily the limitless. Toji had an easy solution for the limitless, but the six eyes' sensory abilities still made it so he couldn't use his stealth the way he wanted to.
I think Toji wins literally every time against Yuta just because Yuta cannot track or sense him, and because through Maki vs. Curse Naoya, they seem to have higher speed than Yuta does.
LOL, bro are you dumb??? A teenage unawakened gojo couldn't track him, LOOK AT ROUND TWO HE BLITZS AND AVIODS TOJI.
Toji was compared to 3f Sukuna while Yuta was compared to 15f Sukuna.
If the author didn’t want those analyses taken as face value he wouldn’t had Megumi and Yuji make them.
First off Megumi is known as a smart, tactical and analytical fighter. He proved fighting Kamo in the Kyoto Goodwill Exchange Event. During the Shibuya Incident he was the one to figure out Awaska, (inverse CT) worked. In the Perfect Preparation arc he figuring out how Kirara CT and during the Culling Games he was able to strategize his fight with Reggie to setup an environment to win. Megumi capable of analyzing Toji like any other opponent.
As for Yuji Sukuna was inside his body and Sukuna made sure he knew what he did in Shibuya. He also understands and knows enough about curse energy to judge. There’s no reason not to believe Yuji assessment is spot on.
Fans go crazy over powerscalling and think there opinions and theories are canon. I’ll take the author word spoken through his characters over fans head canon.
@pardue23 the comparison to 3 fingers sukuna is much looser than you're making it out to be, and there are different lines of scaling to use that you're ignoring
megumi doesn't have a sense of how fast sukuna or toji are exactly. it's not author's statement to say toji = 3 fingers sukuna, when all megumi says about it is that he's similar to the fastest thing he's ever fought.
second, we know that toji is faster than naoya and naobito through the statement that toji could have easily wiped up the zen'in clan whenever he wanted, but chose not to, and naobito is the fastest sorcerer alive (behind gojo satoru) which is a direct statement from the narrator and the author, which you can use to verify that toji (and maki) are faster than yuta.
@@bruhfunnybruhmemesandmore8074
There nothing in those chapters that imply that those analyses were not accurate.
Gege established that Megumi has a good battle IQ and can clearly assess the situation.
You don’t have to be faster than someone to defeat them. There’s many manga/anime where a fast character was defeated by a slower character. Also Maki had trouble with Naoya speed. She was finally able to strategize against it. It doesn’t make her faster than that person.
@pardue23 Toji seemingly would have had no problem with the 2nd fastest sorcerer alive, while yuta was alive, and the maki who had trouble with naoya was not enlightened the way toji was yet.
all toji needs to defeat anyone is to be faster than them if he has the soul liberation blade, which can cut the soul and negate any durability yuta might have.
also yuta won't be able to easily track or sense toji's approach at all.
if you read the chapter where megumi makes the comparison, all he says is that it's "like that time" and not exactly the same as sukuna's level of speed at 3 fingers. toji pulled megumi out of that building before he could even perceive what was going on, he couldn't have been exactly accurate
Sukuna's cursed energy was not limited, it was just the output agaisnt Megumi's friends, which made it difficult to injure Maki and Yuji with his technique. He was still in 15 finger capacity, just not with his techniques. Speed, power and strenght were still available to him. I would say it goes: Yuta-Maki-Rika-Gojo(inventory)-Toji(Inventory). Reversed techniques are that much of a problem for any enemy to work around it.
Output is the release of cursed energy the less cursed energy you can release means you have less cursed energy to reinforce yourself with
maybe you need to reverse yourself in the power system
Depends on what translation you go by. Viz translated it to 10% of his cursed energy output which means he had the strength of 1.5 fingers.
@@JohnSmith-j7n It's been confirmed by the whole community already. Viz got it wrong. A lot by Viz is wrong.
@goofy855 just listen what you just said.
You are saying, toji is relative to 1,5 finger sakuna at his prime. Do understand what you are saying
I think there is two points needed to be addressed regarding the sukuna scaling. The nerf was regarding his curse technique while his base stats were fine. However Ryu was scared of sukuna. Mental state is constantly displayed to fluctuate the power of people in jjk and sukuna's curse energy alone causes alot of fear, debuffing ryu who literally has the highest output of CE. But either way, one can literally just use the narrative argument that yuta is the leader of the 3 big hitters, meaning yuta is relative to prime toji at least, and prime toji> HI arc toji
pretty sure he says his CE output is affected which would effect his physicals
Probably 🤷♂️ Yuta has only been a Jujutsu sorcerer for a year. ONE YEAR!!
And he’s arguably the second strongest person alive. The only thing holding him back is his passive personality.
100 percent agree. You have explain yuta capabilities better than most people i have listened to
Love this breakdown. Much more thought put in than some other TH-camrs and debates for JJK ive seen. Love your stuff bud.
The only problem I have with the toji = 10% of 15f sukuna is right after, the story stated his speed and strength is fine, so it’s just his CE output that’s weakened. So yes maki would scale similar PHYSICALLY to a 15f sukuna, the only reason why though is because his ce output was lowered. If sukuna could use either CT’s with full output both yuji and maki would’ve died then and there very fast, which is why I personally say she doesn’t scale that high, she can contend in h2h, but with his CT’s she gets washed
The issue is that the main translations didn't translate it very well. So Maki scaling to 15F Sukuna is heavily disputed.
CE output = speed and strength though, logically speaking. Remember Yuta can throw around cars like they are nothing despite being a physically weak person, all because of his CE output.
@@visionaryvjae5641 broku is saying there are debates on whether that chapter was mistranslated as the actual Japanese translated chapter that fans had translated to a language for us to read actually said that Megumi lowered sukuna cursed energy output for his CURSED TECHNIQUE not cursed energy output for his body strength but the translated chapters we read said something else.So it is debatable whether sukuna scales to maki due to English mistranslations
@@visionaryvjae5641 go back and read chapter 215 page 3, it says “my cursed energy output is fluctuating. At it’s lowest, it’s under 10%, but my physical movement seems to be normal.” Idk if you comprehend that but what I’m saying is, is that’s not right. If his output is lowered, why would his speed be normal? It’s because there’s a mistranslation. Even other viz translators commented on how wrong jjk is half the time. The Japanese version said it’s lowered through his ct only. Which is what I believe to be the case. H2h he’s fully powered, as you can see yuji is at a level where 2finger sukuna punching him should not send him across the city. But it did. If he could use his CT’s at full blast, along with his speed, they would’ve gotten smoked
@@saucekay6793 speed doesnt have anything to do with output, if so then yuta and ryu would be the fastest but they r not. so maki did match up with 15f's speed
I don’t understand why people say Gojo barely won therefore Yuta would lose as if it was the same Gojo. Pre awakening Gojo got murdered, post awakening Gojo was monologuing while dodging
Something i feel like should be noted is that Sukuna fought Ryu to kill immediately while Yuta fought both of them to simply win. It was even stated that Yuta couldve fired his blast at Ryu early to gain a significant upper hand/win the battle, but he specifically chose not to because he knew Ryu just wanted to indulge.
I feel like if Sukuna was fighting with a similar handicap in mind it wouldnt have looked like such a no diff either, especially if he had to go against both of them.
Yuta has too much stuff in his arsenal I got him winning, a lot of fans use toji messing up a teen a gojo with no reverse curse technique, no purple, no red, no domain, and no teleportation as a reason to put him above yuta when the scaling back then does not translate to the modern point of the story I would even argue Adult geto from volume 0 can take out toji which yuta beat prove me wrong.
Exactly!
I easily see Adult Geto defeating Toji. I mean he halfed his power while fighting Yuta and still was destroying everything.
toji > yuta and any geto
@@ITACHI-ib6cu false
@@saucekay6793 true.
I don't understand the statement that "gojo barely defeated toji". I know it's to hype toji up but this was simply a scenario where an exhausted teenager gojo who had been maintaining his technique non-stop for like 3 days with no sleep I believe was beaten by a full-grown Toji who had studied gojo and sent hundreds of enemies towards him to exhaust him and left him half dead, then this barely recovered half-dead gojo easily swept the floor with toji, like, toji didn't even land a single hit in that rematch and was deleted in a few minutes. The 1st time, yea, Gojo was defeated, but if we're talking about gojo when he was prepared for toji and had perfected his reversed cursed energy, that was an ez win for gojo tbh
(I will admit toji's skills lie in his hunting strategies and stuff, but in combat he was never near gojo, not even pre-enlightened, he just planned so much ahead that gojo couldn't react)
I think rika is relative to a not trying gojo as gojo says alot he would struggle against someone as he said mahoraga would prove a challange than recently bassicly one shot him while weakened and gojo was also trying to make yuta take his rika situation more seriously bassicly trying to scare him
The only issue I have here is using Gojo being tired to downplay Toji. The entire plan to tire him out was for the very surprise attack you showed. Even Toji said that he planned on killing him with that strike and that he must have been getting rusty. After that Gojo being tired doesn't matter as much cause the six eyes would still be making his CE usage efficient and his infinty would be on. Kid Gojo was able to sense the dude cause he was just standing there. He wasn't speeding around like he was in the fight. Even Gojo confirms that Toji's speed is a huge factor to why he couldn't track him. Other than that I do agree that Yuta basically has none of the weaknesses teen Gojo had with even better experience fighting much better opponents even physical fighters.
Toji was still able to sneak up on Gojo to land that attack, which means if prime Toji got spotted, but a Toji that's "rusty" was still able to sneak up on gojo, it still shows that Gojo was heavily nerfed. Furthermore, yes his speed was a factor, but even then Toji had to use the buildings, trees, and cursed spirits, as well as the threat of going after Riko for Gojo to not spot him, and then kill him.
Besides he didn't sleep for two days, I believe using his technique continuously would be enough to tire him significantly
I think that's just your interpretation. No sleep for 48 hours would affect you in every way in a fight. Decision making, reflexes, as well as precise control over something like CE
six eyes only affect your cursed energy, not your physical state
did you forget that pre rct gojo suffered heavy consequences for using six eyes and infinity at all times?
Even if Toji wields the inverted spear or the soul liberation blade in Yuta’s domain, he will be detectable for sure but the guaranteed hit still wouldn’t reach him because he himself will does not have cursed energy so it can’t lock on to him if that’s the case Maki would’ve been hit by Naoya’s domain but she didn’t; Toji wouldn’t have to stab the domain with inverted spear to escape the domain as he does not possess any cursed energy so he can go in and out of barriers like he did Jujutsu high’s barriers and Maki did the culling games
He wouldn’t get recognized by the domain expansions
@@haloplayer439 just said that
Yuta: "Sh*t yourself"
Toji:💩
Rika Is stated to be a Curse Technique by Guide books, so it essentially makes it Yuta vs Toji solo
awsome video love jjk
thanks!
what would have happen if she were to stay alive? And how would that change the series including how the rest of the groups would interact the rest of the groups?
Regarding the Volume 0 scene where Gojo said "he and yuta might die, if rika comes out" i think that was referencing his meeting with the higher-ups of jujutsu society? Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
Well put it like this: How will they be able to kill Gojo and Yuta? They are the two strongest modern sorcerers
Enlightened gojo was stated to be on part with toji
Toji was just blind sided because he IQ nerfed himself and went head strong into the fight due to his sorcerer vendetta
Also toji was not "not confidant" he just noticed how big of a deal it was for kid gojo to notice him exist as he says gojo is the only one where that ever happened he prides himself in being the invisible man. he is an assasin first and he is a very optimal individual so it would be that if you fight someone who detect you despite the fact you are meant to be hiding you need to do something about that
Also i think tojis mindset with how he hated the jjk world for all its glory that they egoed on those lesser he would be more inclined to take this approach as such his entire lifestyle
Maki fighting sukuna shows as only the output when attacking them with cursed techniques was nerfed not all of him and again in the manga its stated that gojo was on par with toji after he became enlightened we know this because pre awakened gojo got no diffed by him so the speech on the narration was implying post reverse gojo
Toji's unease didn't nerf him in round 2, he was like this from the start. When Toji's having his monologue he talks about how he shouldn't have even accepted the job to begin with. The reason Toji accepted this job was out of pride since he could go against the strongest and spit on the jujutsu world, but he had already given up that type of life and pride when he met Megumi's mother, but he went back to it again due to this opportunity to go against Gojo. Toji was nerfed from the moment he accepted the star religious group's job.
Also in the fight against Sukuna, Sukuna states he's at 10% of his regular amount of CE amount, but his control over Megumi's body is unaffected, meaning he can move however he wants. After this, Maki joins the fight and Sukuna states that Megumi further nerfs his output even more when Sukuna is about to use a CT on his friends, so Sukuna throughout the fight is at around 10% his max CE amount, and even lower when he tries to use CTs on Maki or Yuji.
enlightened gojo low diff toji bro wdym on part 💀
@@quasogod Toji was mentally nerfed + Taken by suprise go read the manga narration if you dontt understand that
Getting duped by hollow purple isnt a dupe despite gojo's new strength and speed toji himself even was like this isnt an isssue
It was the fact that he was acting dumb because of his pride and vendetta against sorcerers. if you read the manga the narration actually says they fought evenly
IQ nerf is a nerf none the less int he world of jjk where techniques matter rushing into the unknown like a dumbass is a nerf he knew that which is why he has his bad feeling but he pushed it aside for his pride
@@inyalgaico1563 toji still lose against gojo satoru, thats just it
also, it was never stated that they fought "evenly" even a child can point out that gojo absolutely bitch slapped him after the awakening
also, theres no "mental nerf" or "IQ nerf"
he tried to prove himself, he tried to defeat the strongest person on earth in modern days, and he failed himself
@@quasogod If u ever had a serious fight in your life u should know that this "mental nerf" does exist and it really does nerf u a lot, and the point is that Toji's pride and mentality did nerfed him a lot and is what made the 2°round look like that. If he didnt had nerfed himself like that he would be atleast a decent headache to enlightened Gojo, despite Gojo wining without any doubt.
Current Yuta would obliterate Hidden Inventory Prep-Time Toji 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
No he won't
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People seem to forget Gojo was both mentally and physically exhausted pre-Toji fight due to not sleeping and constantly using his technique.
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the unusual ability thing has been confirmed as a mistranslation him being second is more consistent also narrativeley its very obvious that gege is saying hes the second strongest
cursed speech-dont move and then he fucks up toji
its more likely that sukuan output of cursed was 10% not the physical stats because he said that after using his CT not before that ,especially after switching hands with yuji
What is stooping yuta from using curse speech to stop toji for even a second then blitz him right after?
Nothing which is why Yuta unironically no diffs
3:15 in one of the newest chapters yuta states he thinks sukuna has 2x more ce so he’s probably 3rd
Who would be 2nd?
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In regards to stamina, isn’t the thing about the six eyes that it makes you expend a lot less cursed energy than you would otherwise? Isn’t that why Yuta would run out of cursed energy quicker than Gojo despite having more? Therefor it wouldn’t be far fetched to think Yuta would be affected worse by the constant fighting than Gojo was
thing is gojo has less CE but since he has rct and six eyes it just automatically regenerates
gojo ultimately doesn’t lose any CE
@@swervo4067 His CE does not regenerate. It's explicitly stated that his usage rate is low, which is what this guy is saying.
@@swervo4067 RCT consumes double the amount of CE as CT do so Gojo being able to freely use RCT is also just a result of having the Six Eyes.
he is agaisnt sukuna@@swervo4067
Broku do you think that if Toji is using his hidden inventory curse that yutas sure hit (depending on what it is) would also hit Toji because of the close proximity l?
his sure hit might not be able to even target him
@@Br0ku I was thinking like if yutas sure hit was a beam or whatever and he targeted it at the cursed spirit in tojis shoulder would it hit him? Similar to how gojo sensed Toji because of the curse on his shoulder.
I don’t think it really matters, from what he know, if toji attacks yuta while the domain is active, it’s the same as him accepting the terms and entering the domain himself. Sure he’d bypass the sure hit, but yuta who could (potentially) already scale higher than maki still (being that he was holding back against ryu), with the domain boost toji would get folded, plus his CT’s would probably get a 120% boost. Plus toji is rusty so he most likely wouldn’t cut yuta’s head off instantly, any damage other than that yuta can heal from
@@saucekay6793 really do you remember where that is stated or shown? Also I’m not disagreeing with the overall outcome just proposing a hypothetical situation
@@powerscallop3596 chapter 198, story doesn’t state it, it shows it, once she attacks she starts to show up in the domain and says that only happens when she consents. So it’s safe to assume once she throws an attack once inside the domains barriers she consents. The only thing that didn’t target her was the sure hit, but she was enclosed in the domain. I understand this could be argued but the story shows a lot of things instead of telling it, which I think this is an example of, because if she could attack and not consent then she’d just remain invisible
How would teen gojo and get fair against full power yuta??
Is Rika a cursed technique, or a curse seperately? Im confused on exactly what she is now that the soul left, i think its a curse right? not a technique.
Gojo doesnt get tired from fighting the curse user and isnt exhausted from cursed energy, he gets tired of not sleeping for two whole days and constanly using his technique to always be on guard againts attacks. Remember using your technique nonstop can tire your brain causing it to stress and Gojo is extremly sleep deprived.
10:48 Isnt it like both Yuta and Gojo will be punished for letting Rika out?
They couldn't do anything to harm Gojo or Yuta
@@waitnevermind5471 punished by the rules, like a payment or additional job ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
Do you think that yutas domain would be all his copied techniques at once
Tbh toji looses to cursed speech. He cant depend himself from it very since i think ya need cursed energy to do so tbh tho maybe his passive enhanced physiology helps and his inventory curse gets insta killed by it meaning that toji looses all the tools besides the one or 2 that he has out at the time and cant hot swap nearly as well. Toji would want to prevent that and honestly he would go for the insta kill suprise attack its his only way. Likely yeah while he is distracted by other sorcerers.
8:40 Im not sure about this scaling. This would also imply Yuji is similar to Ryo.
I’m fairly sure the Rika cursed spirit if shikigami we see in the main series is much weaker than the one in volume zero because the original rika was exorcized while you did touch on this momentarily you continued to use volume 0 statements and feats to scale current rika. Not that it changed the result very much
Toji and Maki are invisible to domains, especially considering Yutas domain is going to be copy related. His domain shouldn't be a factor on Yutas side
The only way Toji beats Yuta is if he goes all in gets in his bag and goes all out from the start and just goes for the kill while he sends some else for Riko so Rika is forced to protect her. In a battle of attrition you ain’t beating Yuta. He gets infinite recharge on cursed energy from Rika so he’s never out of CT. He also has RCT which recovers a majority of damage. And most of all some insanely useful curse techniques in his disposal like Curse Speech which Toji can’t guard, Sky manipulation which basically gives Yuta a “Guard bypass”, deflection against ranged attacks, and Dhruvs Shikigami that may not seem like much but are useful in slowly weakening and draining your opponents.
11:47 I saw the text!
Red hitting the Inverted Spear of Heaven and not dispelling is an Anime only thing.
In the Manga, Toji just tanked Red.
he didnt tank anything, he literally got blew away 💀
@@quasogod Still tanked the full thing and lived with a minor head injury..
I think also, it would be harder to get in close and blitz' yuta for 1 main reason, and extra set of eyes (Rika) Looking always.
'MEGUNA' sounds blursed.
Just something random, but I think positive energy should be called blessed energy
Broku do u think maki is stronger than yuta
Am curious
Because "the guy with pencil" in his channel said yuta is not winning against her.
Am curious to hear it thought.
I think Yuta would win.
The thing is if maki is relative to toji
And toji is still not winning against yuta, so it got me thinking 🤔 how maki stronger 💪 than yuta .
Love this video 😍..
Because there are still channels like urs who still think yuta is HIM.
others have lost faith and are clowning on our boy
@@YZcreats4880 toji wins
Is Yuta special grade level without Rika? I feel like the least he could be would be grade 1, right?
should of done 3 scenarios. 1. Where he has no plan, just goes in, power vs power. then ur other 2!
Yuta wouldve gotten his rectal canal rearranged.
Now that the anime is over, absolutely. It wouldn’t even be difficult. Now that we know they watched the gojo vs sukuna fight INSIDE of rika. They could transport her that way, and yuta himself, particularly if he fully manifests her (she wasn’t when they used her as a hiding place) toji couldn’t beat them both head on anyway, add that to the transporting/hiding him and his great rct, it only works for toji if he can sneak up and kill yuta outright since no limitless is there. Yuta is stronger than that gojo, (headcanon to be fair). It would just be much harder to corner and kill him as he can heal, be transported by rika etc. unless somehow the spear can shut rika down. I think yuta may even be as good with a sword too.
12:14 I also saw that
Now what if. Toji does have a curse technique but cant use it because his heavenly restriction is zero curse energy. But doesnt Yuta have to see it being use and then have rika consume a piece of the person so i guess either way he cant use it.
Since sukuna's mummy corps is equal to 1 finger sukuna does that mean sukuna with his original body is physically stronger than any of his versions and have more CE output ?
I think Heian Sukuna could be stronger than current Sukuna
I think Heian era Sukuna is stronger physically but the current Sukuna (Megumi version) has more hax
Don't forget original Sukuna had 4 arms and eyes that give far more versatilely in battles. I think Sukuna in Yuji was physically stronger than inside Megumi. Sure he can try to reenforce with cursed energy but needs every ounce for his fight with Gojo. A adult Yuji would be near a Toji. Sukuna could have made use of this but he was too impatient.
I agree with all of that
Of course Yuta wins, he got the baddest bitch in the series after all
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I wonder how many domains yuta could spam before being braindeaded like Gojo and sakuna in the current chapters.
It might depend on the type of the Domain
Like Hakari could spam his domain as long as he hits Jackpot
Alot of fans don't seem to understand his actual cursed ability is to copy, not to summon rekia.
Even more don't seem to understand she is multiple times stronger then Yuta himself.
Yes, but Yuta himself went alone bodying idk how many sorcerers and cursed spirits alone. Then proceeded to fight a special grade curse, Oro(hein era , sukuna execution squad member), and Ryo(record holder for cursed energy output). Whilst also trying not to kill Oro and Ryo. And only puts on the ring at the end after being forced to span RCT( because of the situation, not the power of the enemies), and using domain expansion.
Rested Yuta vs Ryu is not even a fight, and makes ppl underestimate him
It’s crazy with hindsight, current yuta has almost no chance of losing to toji here. Even prime toji loses if we use prime yuta
Yuta when he first arrived isn't beating Yuta, now Yuta a different monster now, he would violate toji
Why the change of thumbnail? I liked the other one better tbh
Video underperformed. Testing different thumbnails.
If toji used the same strat on yuta its less likley to work becuase along woth stamina Yuras copy technique means the 48 hours of weak sorcerers gives Yuta an influx of new techniques to copy which makes him even less predictable and harder target
Who tf is meguna
I gotta say i really think that statement from gojo is cap. How is rika getting past infinity?
Cursed Spirits can use domain amplification so rika could probably learn it lol
@@vfxamin ima keep it real I dont think she is. Since the only curses we've seen use DA are the disaster curses and they display a much higher intelligence than rika and all other cursed spirits. Not to say she couldnt for sure but in the case she got loose from yuta and attacked gojo I dont see her learning domain amp on the fly like that.
@@plab1151 nah she probably could if yuta explained to her how to do it...being the simp that she is she would make sure she got the hang of Domain Amplification...yuta could say if you learn this I'll love you more lol and she would...
@@vfxamin I dont think yuta would assist rika in trying to kill gojo
@@plab1151 it's a hypothetical scenario bro😭💀🤦🏾♂️
Closed we'll ever (maybe) see Yuta vs Toji is with Yuta vs Maki
True! Would be a fun fight
The only person that can catch toji comin up behind them is gojo, and toji was unsure if he cld beat gojo soo he came up with multiple strategies that would ensure his victory as seen when he low diffed everybody, if toji has knowledge on yutas ability i believe he gets assassinated easy
JJK 0 Rika had her own curse energy this new Rika stores Yuta's and uses his which is why she can run out of it. Current Rika is a curse technique vs JJK 0 who's a vengeful curse spirit. Current Rika and JJK 0 are different in power.
current Rika is not a cursed technique, that was a mistranslation. I also don't think there is valid evidence that current Rika is weaker. Not that i've seen.
wasnt it originally that yuta was borrowin rika's insane CE
Now that rika is no longer a vengeful spirit Yuta inherited the insane CE reserve and can store it inside Rika
As for now! Its a close fight either way, whoever you think would win, Until yuta shows us something more
alr so yuta being second to gojo isnt a mistranslation but that is talking about a adult gojo not the teen one.
You should read the series more, you left out alot of key points in things that happened in the manga that would affect alot how you explained how this’ll go.
Like Yuta’s domain for example, would not be able to do anything to Toji, cuz he has zero cursed energy, Yuta’s domain barrier sure hit wouldn’t be able to target toji, it’ll register him like a building, and toji could either choose to enter the domain or not like how Maki did in cursed spirit Naoya’s Domain. So if yuta is put in a position where he opens his domain and it just doesn’t work on Toji which it won’t, he’d be in a pretty bad spot.
I still think Yuta would win tho cuz he’s a genius fighter as well and should be able to figure out toji. Plus he’s just far too versatile and strong for him to loose to Toji
He would be able to use his positive energy output to absolutely obliterate the storage curse toji uses , therefore taking away all his weapons which would just end the fight, Toji would loose and die if he doesn’t Run away lol
It’s almost like I literally stated this in the video. Holy fuck, look in the mirror goofy ass
@@Br0ku just because the sure effect doesnt activate, doesnt mean he still cant aim his domains attack if it has one. Lets say your domains effect is a giant lazar thats sure hit, you could still fire it in his general direction
@@Hetsu.. I know. I'm simply talking about sure-hits. Yuta would still be able to hit him with amped attacks in the domain via his own precision.
we havent even seen how yuta domain works, what if its a no-target domain like hakari?
Tbh with the fact of Gojo being freshly awakened and not struggling at all with Toji I think Yuta would mop him
only reason teen gojo won at the end is because of toji not knowing gojo could've done that at all, we don't know what would have happened if toji knew gojo could do that, he could've dodged it
toji is getting waxed
Oh yes he would definitely he would win yuta, yuta one of the three most versatile fighters in jjk adding with his arsenals of ability
If i was toji i would youst cut the ring finger
Even if told you loses as long as he can kill the star plasma vessel, it doesn't matter anymore because she's dead and his job was to protect her in. Anyways. If he does bring another sorcerer that's so sure can distract yuta while he killed the star plasma vessel and did you forget toji is really fast so you can easily kill her and he has a gun he can shoot her from far away
that's true. But I meant to clarify he kills Yuta quickly.
Iam pretty sure rika was stated to also be yuta cursed technique but i may be wrong
that was a mistranslation in VIZ. So yeah, you've probably seen it. But the correct translation is that she stores his CTs not that she is his CT.
She’s an external source for his CT, being that storing it in his body would make his brain explode
I have a few issues with your arguments though. For one, Yuta has more ce than gojo, but gojo also has better efficiency so these 2 cancel out. Especially as Yuta can't heal his brain. I believe toji has a 80% chance of winning, especially if he uses the split soul katana
I already see the problem with this vid and that is Gojo’s six eyes are what allowed him to even see Toji
The problem with this whole comparison is that unless you r Gojo, Sukuna or Kenjaku then u should just apologize to Yuta for whatever wrong you've committed and hope he let's u go
Thanks for your take on this debate
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Rika doesn’t scale to Gojo, it’s just that she is too big to exercise, it’s like saying sukuna’s finger is stronger than Gojo because he can’t destroy them. The reason Suguru would’ve beat Gojo is because he wouldn’t reasonably been able to kill Rika without doing something extreme, like a 200% hollow purple. That being said, Yuta definitely has the tools to beat Tojo easily. Remember, Teen Gojo is worlds stronger than Toji, I’d imagine with how strong Yuta is compared to teen Gojo, he wouldn’t have trouble killing Toji
i dont think 200% hollow purple was even his full power considering how chill he was
@@quasogod yeah I agree, it’s more extreme in a sense that it destroyed half of Shibuya when he used it again, so in that sense, I think he can exercise Rika but not without cost
great theory
Yuta is only second to awakened Gojo
Also Yuta doesn't get Rika back cause Rika passes on he gets a pseudo Rika that isn't as strong as the original
@@Chewiedog727 where is that stated?
Sincerely we don't know the full power of toji since he was restrained against gojo to the only weapon he had that could surpass infinite and in all other fights he participated he completely smacked his opponent, against yuta he has a much bigger variety of weapons he could use, that's what makes me unsure of who would win but with prep time toji solos.
“Stuff we don’t know so Toji easy”
Considering that getou vs yuta would’ve been a stomp for getou if he had access to a full uzumaki, and the ease in which toji could take care of getou and a gojo that could’ve stopped getou at any point, my money is on Toji😭
He beat teen getou
Keep in mind rage that was a far younger and weaker Getou than the one that fought yuta
Also that same yuta that fought suguro was so inexperienced that he had to learn how to reinforce his body while fighting in addition to not having his current arsenal of curse techniques, also lacking a domain and reverse curse technique
Talking as if Toji wasnt fighting a bunch of kids . Yuta was going toe to toe with Adult geto and he was just learning only a year. Toji would've been blitzed by teen gojo even pre awakened. You have to remember that Toji had to weaken him to fight him. Even implied that Gojo is stronger so he made that plan. Yuta slams toji, I can literally imagine Yuta using curse speech on toji and then boom he's done. Or even when toji covers his ears, yuta and Rika will just jump him. Yuta> second to gojo for a reason.
W video.
maki has some CE but she was not born with ability to control it whereas toji had zero CE and had beat dagon singlehandedly while maki
saw in awe
maki would actually be exactly like toji had she not been born a twin
Her heavenly restriction was split between her and her sister meaning neither of them could grow any stronger
@@Ricin. bro her sister doesn't have heavenly restriction mai has her own CT
@@Ricin. get your facts checked
@@kitaloveskitkat2252 I worded it incorrectly
Maki can't use her heavenly restriction cus mai has cursed energy and a cursed technique
And maki can't grow stronger because Mai doesn't
And Mai can't grow stronger since Maki cant
So one of them had to die for the other to realise their full power
Kenjaku said yuta is stronger than maki. So it's finally settled
Vis translation is dubious in context,
I doubt 1.5 finger Sukuna could trounce Yuji with no problems as he implied he could,
doubly doubt 1.5 finder sukuna could go even with Maki and Yuji at the same time,
quadruple doubt 1.5 finger sukuna could land the haymaker on Maki that he managed at the end. More likely that it's just the CT that had low output.
The issue is that 1.5 finger assumes that the fingers are linear when they are likely not linear amps.
that rika that gojo said he'd "Die" to stop him was a different Rika is 1 problem. Since it was the original Rika, not the soul-left Rika. So prob weaker
Was it ever stated or implied that current Rika is weaker? If not that's just random headcanon
@@Twix44 Hey man, this is going to be a long read, but it's well reserached, so it'll be worth your time. Try to get through it all, its annoying ik.
Let's start. Why Rika is weaker now than prior.
#1 Main evidence.
Rika no longer has a human soul.
Explanation: Rika was previousy a Vengful Spirit, not an actual full on curse. This is distinctly mentioned. As Vengful Spirit's are tethered to a soul, cursed spirits are not. Vengful spirit's are also directly
The soul in JJK has strength and power attached too it directly, as mentioned several times by Geto, and Mahito. So losing this power would insunate lost strength.
Evidence. Here's a quote. "Orimoto bequeathed the last few vestiges of her will to the cursed spirit, symbolizing a manifestation of her love that she left behind to protect Yuta.[2]"
We know that pure-love creates the most powreful vengful spirits, and once manifested, cursed spirits.
"Last few vestiges" Directly means, as she's moving on into enlightenment, she left behind what little love she had left. Quite literally meaning, its a weaker love, and a curse with weaker love as its base is weaker than a curse with stronger love.
#2
Rika quite literally, the first time she manifested, was manifested for 7:02 minutes.
Her new limit of the ring's timer of 5 minutes, is fully new, and wasn't a prior restriction when in vol 0, she was a Vengful Spirit. Again, directly insinuating she had less restrictions, and more power.
She was never mentioned to have a 5 minute limit prior to Rika Seperating from her human soul, and becoming purely a cursed spirit.
Meaning right off the bat, she was limited, and reduced in how effective Rika could be.
#3
Geto mention's this in the volume.
"His ability to unconditionally copy techniques and his boundless cursed energy were both the result of him keeping his lovers soul captive."
While there are several translations, he clearly is directly mentioning how the SOUL attached is proviing Rika with neigh-infinite Cursed energy at a very minimum, which you could easily then justify power output also being far higher. Of course meaning this is directly connected to the soul.
Summary:
Rika has no human soul, is weaker.
Rika has less love, only small remains. Weaker.
Rika was previously uncapped in her time limit, is now capped 5 minutes. Weaker.
you've read through this evidence and come too a different conclusion or learned something new.
If rika is relative to Gojo then so is Ryu lmao. Yuta got canonically one shot by Gojo, some volume 0 stuff just doesn’t really make sense. Toji never admitted inferiority to teen gojo, in fact he was excited at the proposition of fighting a fresh gojo. But he’s an assassin not a fighter, and wanted as little resistance as possible. We see that again with Geto. Toji one tapped his strongest curse but still avoided killing Geto so he wouldn’t have to do anymore work.
its not even close... yuta stomps