My grandpa refused to replace his DYING hard drive that was causing is relatively "okay" pc to be nearly unusably slow. He was just going to replace his whole PC when it finally died. Me, being the person that knew they were going to get called when that happened, decided to upgrade him to an SSD without telling him. Now he complains his PC is too fast. You literally can't win with old people.
Is this one of those "I used to be able to go and make a cup of tea and be back at the PC before it had finished starting up, now it just does it immediately! I used to feed the cat while I waited for Internet Explorer to load, but I keep forgetting to do it because it only takes 5 seconds! When am I supposed to make tea and feed the cat?!?!" situations? Been there.
My dad does the same thing. He just got a new PC with an SSD and when he was using it, he deleted some important files and emptied the recycle bin. He then lectured me and complained to me about how Microsoft made his computer too fast and they should slow down.
@@Josh_Quillan Reminds me of an (amazon i think) review where the person complained that the ethernet wire was too fast since now he didnt have time to go make his coffee while something was doing something.
From real-world experience, a loved one that is calling for computer help isn't calling for help updating drivers, deleting startup items, or any of that. They call when something that was working stops working (usually a printer). Then you, the family's reluctant tech support, sits down at or remotes into their computer and are shocked and disgusted at the state of things and want to grab them by the shoulders and shake them violently while screaming "HOW DO YOU TOLERATE THIS?!?!" and suddenly the scope of your support call has broadened drastically. (then 3 months later something goes wrong on their computer and you get a call that starts with "Something you did...")
That's exactly right, it has to be some sort of show stopper to get them to call. When I got there, their complaint was always the least of their problems :-)
I want to say that I just love how you guys make your own stock footage. It really shows production value and love for the craft. And they're also way better than generic stock footage
It's crazy how marketing can mislead people into buying software that essentially duplicates built-in Windows features, often worse. Always remember a lot can be achieved with built-in tools sparing your wallet unnecessary damage.
Yea, my motto since buying my first PC about 25 years ago has always been "Never pay for software", and I've stuck to it pretty rigidly with the exception of a few image editing programs, or when it was something I genuinely wanted after trying all the free options. But anything like antivirus, PC cleaning, backup software, VPN, I always run away very quickly and make do with free alternatives.
@@JoeBob79569 zip file, is a good example the zip there first it as windows OS thing, and standard freeware/payed versions, are still more feacher-rich, than the windows option, alone, but widows missed more advance bit, is anyone gess,
This is why I left the marketing job because I dug deep to learn and realized how predatory it is for some companies who just want the money and not a good customer experience. Nowadays I can easily detect some questionable, predatory, or even unethical marketing schemes and I get pissed when I see that constantly because I know that it works for those companies.
Look up soft ram, it was a $80 software back in the 90s sold over 700k units, claming they can double your ram using some special compression. All the software did was increase the size of your swap file, something you can do it yourself without the software
@@paradoxzee6834 I used something like this for a while back in the day, where you could clear some of your ram if necessary. It was kind of handy for memory leaks and stuff..
Oh God, IOBIT. I remember an older version that decided my desktop was "junk documents" and cleared out my homework word docs. Not recycling bin, full delete, and had to rescue disk what I could.
I had that same thing happen to me with Avast, just a bit different. Once i plugged in my USB drive with plethora of stuff on it, it somehow thought that it was malware, and just cleaned the whole drive right into quarantine. That was the thing that tought me not to ever touch any of this junk software again.
I remember them (Older version of Advance System Care) Cleaning my PC full of "Errors" so much so that it messed up with my boot partition and ended up leaving in a Windows recoverery loop. I wish I knew how to reinstall Windows at the time though.
Yea, they say your pc has errors. I say theyre liars. Your registry has a cache link to some usb drive thats not connected? THE HERROR!! OMG UER SYSTEM IS ALMOST DED GIV ME UR MONIES NOW MEBE I CAN SAVE IT BE QUICK OR BE DED LOL NEXT TIME DONT SPLIT UP JUST STICK WITH MICROSTILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER KILLING YOUR PC SOFTLY WITH HIS MICROSOFT WORDS
As for the fomo tactics, I'm so glad that EU introduced a solution to this: any sale or limited offer needs to come with a "lowest price in last 30 days", so if they had the same "limited offer" forever, they need to show you that this price isn't anything special.
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To a degree. More reputable and higher volume sites care about it. Just checked (from EU) the iobit site (which redirected me to macbooster - I guess because of Chrome on iOS user agent?), aaand it looks scammy, no "lowest price in last 30 days", etc. So, it's working worse than when GDPR went live, when some sites, especially news sites, just downright blocked the EU. Was fun to check NYT, and be reminded we're just not worth the hassle and be compliant :D
well iobit steal does the same in europe, just not every time now a days, I remember a few years ago I got pop ups for sales all the time, now I just really get them like on mother days, christmas and stuff like that, but I also dont run the software all the time just when I need it
@@PrintEverything20005 with how the open internet is archived, it's really easy to find it out if they lie. Sure it won't ever be bullet-proof, but for the most part it does its job.
Thanks for taking the time to slow down and explain the graphs rather than jiust flashing them up on screen and expecting us to make sense of them in under 5 seconds.
I have a video idea. There are lots of poorly written softwares out there. That even after uninstalling remain in your registry. One of the most annoying software like this is the new ASUS suite. Terrible to get out of your pc. Even after multiple tries fragments still lingered. Ultimately I had to do a reinstall of windows. A video about getting clean uninstalls would be greatly informative and appreciated.
@@alexdavis9324 The Asus suite in particular is like that comicbook where Wolverine regenerates from a single drop of blood. It has A LOT of separate parts that act as standalone applications and missing a single one would allow the software to regenerate. It took me 4 reboots and several hours meticulously finding every program with "Asus" anywhere in its data and I even had to go and clean out some regs by hand because my programs overlooked them
More than 10 years ago, I used to work in a computer repair shop and CCleaner was one of the best tools in my arsenal. I don't know how it is these days
The only thing for it is useful is temp file cleaning, windows can do it partially, and registry cleaning. Everything else is bloatware, especially the driver garbage, you install anything from there, and you're asking for your pc OS get bricked.
Nothing beats the Browser "Toolbar" era for bogged down computers. I don't even know if you can come close unless you turn on every Windows Telemetry spyware "feature".
I remember helping my aunt with her computer way back in the day. There were rows upon rows of toolbars in her IE. Nearly half of the available screen space. Quire an horrible experience. A few years later she eventually started using some other browser (Chrome?) and asked me if I knew how to migrate "all the usefull toolbars".
lots of software had toolbars attached to them. if you didnt pay attention and just spammed next you'd get bogged down . avg, norton, etc had their own toolbar installs even popular search companies had their own like aol, yahoo,ask jeeves, etc
@@the-nomad-show😂😂😂 I've heard this before. Never have I wanted to bash my head into a wall more than when someone's ASKS you to rebloat their system. Makes me irrationally angry
Also one thing to note that would make the PC slower is using disk cleanup for temp files to often. Temp files do make your PC faster and constantly removing them, forces the programs to make them new. A program might build an index or caches some work in the temp files, so it can look for them the next time its started and use these files. One example would be thumbnails. A thumbnail is just a smaller size version of that picture or any file, that is good enough for a preview. I would suggest to start a cleanup run when your drive turns red in the explorer. When it happens more than once per month and you can't make out the culprit (downloads folder, games) and think about cleaning your drive up (not just cleaning a specific place like downloads or uninstalling games), think about a new drive. When your drive is at the last few gigs, your PC will get slower and might even refuse to do updates. Also keep an eye out for the ram usage. When its close to max, it gets messy. Windows will start to use your drive as ram and that is slow and when you only have a HDD, its dead slow and you might think its stuck. When this happens at boot up, boot into recovery mode and uninstall some shit. Had this once with one of our office PCs (its used for training for our customers) and it was Dell and Avira doing their stuff and hitting max on the RAM. The PC wasn't well maintained and was unused for quite some time and probably both thought they now must keep up and do a lot of stuff. It was unusable at this point.
I have a Razer RGB keyboard. When I first got it I was using a cheap laptop as my main machine and I decided to install Razer Cortex to help with gaming performance. I began to notice that every time I played a game I’d be unable to print while and after the game was running, only fixing itself after restarting. Turns out Cortex was “optimizing” my laptop by shutting off random system processes to help on ram usage, including the process which handles printing and wouldn’t restart it afterwards. Fortunately there’s a configuration page so I could turn off “printer optimizations” and print again, though I’m never gonna use it again because who knows what other things it’s touching.
I accidentally CCleaned my friends WHOLE c drive. Every photo, every song, everything he had there. Its one of the most painful "uhh.. Im sorry I dont know what happened"s in my life. I had used CCleaner for years before that and just did a regular cleanup.
From using one of their piece of software before: IObit also regularly push popup on your system to upsell you on partner products. (Even while using the paid version.) I would recommend to avoid them like the plague.
I really liked that OpenWRT router ad. I didn't knew there were those kind of things of sale nowadays, looks like a good product, and probably get plenty of people on the rabbit hole of what DD-WRT were and are, which is good 🙂
Revo Uninstaller takes application uninstalls one step further and scans for leftover files. You might be surprised how much data some applications leave behind after it's "uninstalled".
Whenever it comes time to uninstall things, Revo is my go-to, for normal people they see it as overkill because you're basically nuking the files from orbit but it makes a hell of a difference
Revo is the only third party software I'll use on my PC over Windows (and O&O ShutUp10) when it comes to modifying or cleaning up the OS. I learned a long time ago if you just use common sense, leave the OS alone (O&O doesn't delete or modify, it just shuts the service off), and do a full backup, Windows actually works pretty good. Oh, and shut down startup programs you don't need.
That "discounts" sometimes aren't even a true discount, but a previous normal price. Some of them are marking up the price so much to increase their profit margin
I went from a mechanical to an m.2 solid state a few years back and my system has never been the same. That was the biggest game changer I have ever seen in pc upgrades. That was better than any cpu or ram upgrade I have ever made.
CCleaner ' CrapCleaner ' still has it's original core features as free and remaining working as designed. As long as you don't touch the added stuff since it was bought out, you're getting what's expected from CCleaner's origin.
Unfortunately the same can't be said for their Android version. I tried using it to clean up my mom's completely cluttered phone and it was terrible. Unskippable full screen video ads every time you try to do anything and the cleaning pretty much did nothing while also not showing enough details. I ended up going back to using Cx File Explorer to clean junk manually; my mom had uninstalled Cx Explorer and installed CCleaner in the time since I previously cleaned her phone.
owner of multiple iobit software here. They still do this ESPECIALLY when they ask you to upgrade to a new version. the download page will bombard you with the same strats asking you to upgrade to the paid versions.
If you have a super "bogged down computer", you may want to consider two profiles for what you do. For example I have a profile for gaming only where I only have games and discord running on. My standard profile gets as much as 40% lower 1% lows. Some systems are beyond saving though. Wiping and installing programs to local profiles vs the entire system is a good way to have a profile where everything you need / want to run, is running and you don't need to worry about starting them. At the same time if you need every single frame you can swap to a secondary profile.
I've been using the Razer game booster to kill a whole bunch of processes and services when gaming but creating a new gaming user profile is a good idea too.
Ok, if im being honest I DO have IObit but its just the uninstaller software mainly cus it clears every instance of a software including windows registries just making it easy to trouble shoot a program. when you install IObit you have a choice to have others installed so guessing they didnt do that. And 12:10, If the app isnt listed or you like more control (Press the win key, Type services, click on the tab labeled "startup types" to sort them, find the program you like to have manual control over, Right click on it, click properties, change automatic to manual, hit apply) now your app only start when you like giving you more control then task manager since i have some apps that are just not listed that start up on there own and are not even enabled in software.
I have been using AVG tuneup for over 2 years now and I’m very happy with the features, I don’t understand that you didn’t test AVG tuneup but did test CCleaner because “the UI and features were different enough”. But so does AVG tuneup, yet you didn’t test it.
Should've tested on super low end PCs/laptops. Like ones that just have 2 cores or 4 ecores, etc. Those are the ones that wold need it most since a fast PC can bruteforce past background programs
My go to tool for a couple of decades has been 'Glary Utilities'. Free version pretty much does everything the average person would need it to. Very simple to use and easy to understand interface. Rarely gets a look at in these types of reviews though sadly.
I love the interface for IOBit Uninstaller and IOBit Driver Booster. I use the pro versions and just have all the notifications and auto-launch and auto-updates disabled. It never runs in the background and I just open them when I need them. They are truly simple software.
Same here. On top of that i have fixed multiple laptops in our office just by running Driver Booster and installing the WHQL drivers. Somehow it always install correct chipset and device drivers.... Advanced System Care is in my startup for last 4 years and yes it pop up sometimes, but its once a week not more than that. Im a server engineer and i know how to clear cache, defrag and trim my drives and etc but its just all in one plus ASC updates my notepad++, 7zip and etc.
@@LegionRRTX Portmasters SPN is thr only option for me since it's actually designed for independent use every connection can have a different location so reddit can be Russia and anime piracy site can be Australia hehe
Having the intro after explaining that much is a really great idea since we are already so much engaged with the video that it just makes us want to skip it to continue the video
Funny enough, from the image of that popup you showed of IObit when you went to close, I recognized it as one of the ones that a remarketing company used that I worked for a year back. Went and checked the source code and confirmed it. The popup discount before close is a very very effective tool to create conversions.
Yeah, I wish people were savvy enough to stop that type of interaction. I specifically *don't* buy something if I see something like that to try to discourage it, but unfortunately I'm only a small data point.
@@andypeters3011 I felt empty while coding stuff like this, so I 100000% agree with you. But I also saw the data, and it is unbelievable how effective they are. I cant share actual statistics (NDA) But its a lot more then you could possibly imagine. I hate it, but if the money is there people will always pay for it.
@@wyterabitt2149 a theme park needs maintenance. Digital things will work precisely the way they were programmed forever as long as they are not modified.
When are you testing Chris Titus' debloat tool? (Yes, it's not for removing user bloat, but for debloating the fresh install. Would have been nice to see a bar for a bare minimum Windows install)
I've managed to lower the process count from 105-110 to 79 with his debloat tool, it was just a wow moment for me. It became a must do for ever windows installation since.
Debloating your system sounds like a nice idea until it breaks something or several functionalities you didn't expect. And the impact is marginal, at best.
Holy cow!!! Don't think I've ever been more proud of my build --- from circa 2015! Home built; granted still running Win8.1*, but has a SSD main, & a big mechanical secondary for storage. From a cold start I can log into Windows in under 15 seconds(and if I get the password right on the first try), I'll be ready to rock in around 30 seconds, and most of that time is the VPN connecting. I always build for longevity and don't game(but run a 4k monitor), so I'm taking this as win and patting myself on the back!!!! *I know, I know... The first thing I did after after installing the O/S back then was setting it up so I almost never see the 'Metro' screen unless I absolutely have to. Have been looking into upgrading the O/S, and I'll probably start by making it dual boot and slowly move over to Linux. Just haven't had the time or enough incentive yet.
@@xandermckay9806 Thanks for the confirmation. I don't keep up much on the details; but after over 30 years dealing with computers, the one assumed given is that every new generation of O/S is more bloated than the last.
I learned this lesson the hard way. Used to care a lot about these optimizer software then I just stopped using them and figured out the root of these issues. These software basically just disable the startup upps or kill a few background processes which is not worth the money nor the disk space. Great video as always!
I have been that guy who is remembered when their PC becomes slow. Was quite excited to watch when I saw the thumbnail. Traditionally I have used CCleaner and Avast to speed things up. And I used to observe a significant change. The results in the video felt odd, maybe because they were being tested on a gaming PC. I personally would like this to be tried on normal i3/i5 8GB/16GB laptops that are widely purchased.
The only thing I would disagree with is using 3rd party software to backup the drive. Windows has a built-in Windows backup that works far better. It IS hidden a bit (Windows wants your data and cloud money for online backups). Control Panel>System & Security>File History. Then look for the very small "System image backup" on the bottom left of the page. Plug in your external harddrive then click it. It will automatically select the important stuff. You just have to select whatever extra stuff you want. EASY. To restore a completely screwed up PC or transfer to a better drive, relaod Windows, then go to same place as before in Control Panel File History but select restore at the top left.
It is a missed opportunity that you did not include an adjusted windows install. Microsoft does offer the option for you to configure the windows install to your need - like completely removing large parts of the system. Those things are more than enough that my old i5 760 had a boottime of ~40 seconds on an old HDD even after having been bloated for nearly 10 years.
If you're talking bout creating custom Windows images, that is doable, but it likely will be too difficult and time consuming for most people do. Then you also have the inherent risk of people not knowing what they're doing and removing critical components they assumed were not important.
@@JJFlores197 it takes a bit of time (but there are great tools to simplify it and also pre-made images). And i would expect that many people watching LTT where they did things like virtualise multiple Systems onto a single PC would be quite interested in such a comparatively simple thing.
Another thing about IO bit. It starts advertising to you on your desktop once installed. My girlfriend bought it and she threw an absolute fit and there's no way to turn off that advertising. Eventually she uninstalled it and swore she'd never buy anything like it again.
I'm a big believer in re-installing windows periodically. Back before windows had a built-in reset feature I would do a clean install with a flash drive. But these days you can just go into your settings and perform a reset. I always clear everything, retaining no data, settings, or apps. Then I just move my stuff back from my second drive. I do this probably once a year.
Chris Titus's winutil tool is a great way to actually debloat windows (fresh installs too) It's a little more DIY because people will be afraid of the CLI, but it does the job.
For uninstalling software I like to use Revo Uninstaller.Can remove basically everything and looks afterwards if there's any files that is left behind by the regular uninstaller. Also can uninstall Windows apps. Do be careful as it can also uninstall System files.
Glary Utilities is solid. I've used it to shave 30+ seconds off of bloated load times on relatives' computers. Also, it doesn't employ the obnoxious marketing that some other software packages use.
Used to work at Office Max many many moons ago. They offered pc cleanups and honestly it was just me running Ccleaner and a Malwarebytes scan. Think it was $40 bucks? Can’t remember, but was amazed people would gladly pay it. (We were supposed to hookup and have a remote tech do the work, but it took forever and 90% of what they did was literally that.)
Oh wow. A sponsor that I can actually get behind. Been using the flint 2 router for about 6 months now. Its a great open sourced router, 100% recommend!
I can't believe they offer defragmenting. I guess it's just a basic service that's been around since the 90s that they just didn't bother to take off but it has almost no purpose for the vast majority of consumers today as they won't even have a hard disk drive anymore. Defragmenting an SSD is basically pointless. I would argue it may actually do more harm than good because you're doing unnecessary read and write operations that would shorten the lifetime of the drive (though probably not significantly) with no performance gain because SSDs random access times equal their sequential times.
@@finkelmana And if you still have a larger HDD as your data grave you probably rarely write on it, and when you do in large blocks, so there's hardly any defrag to do.
@@finkelmana you can run a defragment on an SSD. It won't have any positive effect. Or shouldn't anyway. I mean the way they write information is randomish anyway due to wear leveling so you would probably end up with many things saved in different locations but still as random and uncontiguous as it was before. It would be interesting to map the memory locations visually before and then after running one to see. There is nothing physically stopping a defrag from running. It's just memory addresses pointing to physical locations. The SSD also has that. The physical location is just on a nand chip instead of a disc. Maybe they've added stuff to defragmenting programs to check and see if it's an SSD and then tell you it won't run the operation but if so, it hasn't always been like that.
@@pixels_per_inch No, actually you cannot. You are right, that really old or improperly coded defrag software will run on SSDs. However, it is pointless. The SSDs wear-leveling will cause the data to be written non-contiguously. As I correctly stated, you cannot defragment a SSD.
You guys should do a video on the basis of if ANTI-VIRUS is actually needed these days or if windows defender is enough, testing common trojans and other viruses with the LAB
Already answered on their old videos, windows defender always gets updated and detects 92% of viruses, if the 8% bugs you well then learn how to do proper internet etiquettes like not dowloading random files off the internet like an idiot
I hardly ever thumbdown videos, but I had to with this one. I didn't expect a deep dive, but this one didn't even scratch the surface. What did the programs do to achieve the unslowdown and what explains the different results?
Yeah I agree they should have included a bit more about that each tool actually does, as well as give examples of how to do those things, and more, on your own.
I believe to speed up pc is" over clock cpu by increase frequency" simple it is i believe for disk space just compress all backup file save lot of space and disk clean up definitely save space even lot space save too but i want to to knows is program install in pc is slow pc speed or program which not install on pc but is install on other pc we just copy the program from program file to a dvd and run it in our pc for example does these slow most our pc performance or not but in these things i don't know nothing what it does .but i believe it slow it most or not in all i don't know sometimes i believe it only not effect the pc performance but in anytime i can compress when i don't use it when i don't use it .
Yeah, I don't understand the hate towards it. I use it as well and find it very useful. You can do a bunch of stuff all from one interface. It also doesn't slow down your system. It's probably the best of all these types of software. You also don't need to download all the bloatware that comes with it like Linus did.
You forgot to mention Linux; and I'm not joking. Runs from a thumb drive so no need to install until you're absolutely sure you want it on your computer and for some stuff, it does speed up your PC and uses less resources.
The video is specifically about windows though, so not point in mentioning linux or macOS. Although it is true that both of them are much faster on weaker systems, so yeah, if someone is comfortable using or learning to use linux, that is an option to keep using an older system relatively smoothly for some more time.
I myself have build like 6 different PCs, so not that much, but I try to keep my own PC as clean as possible. It boots up in slightly less than 30 seconds, but that mostly comes from paying attention what I install and also I automatically limit the autostart of apps to what I deem necessary. Additionally I always delete with 'Shift + Del' so the recycle bin is always empty (but it's a very dangerous practice). Also, that startup time is with a total storage of 10 TB (2TB M.2 [2x Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB, OS, games], 8 TB HDD [movie backups, projects which take up yes amount of storage]).
Ah, these cleaning tools are a dying breed for a good reason. Take top of the line machine from 2015, bench it, get a new office PC, add a decent graphics card and RAM and bench that. You'll smoke that battleship from a decade ago. We've come to the point, that bloat is not an issue outside of computer start up, because the overall percentage of resources spent on bloatware is extremely low these days. We have essentially brute forced ourselves through the problem, meaning it's only work stations, that would benefit somewhat from software like this and, even there, there is the old "don't install, what you don't need" solution to keep your system fast.
11:23 No tech-impotent family member will ever ask for updated drivers or for deleting useless items. They don't even know what that means. Most unrealistic part of the video.
CCleaner user here since Vista era. Never failed me. Although, it got a lot worse when it comes to being a "nagware" after they were bought by AVG, it still does the job for me.
4:27 Just a question. If you were willing to buy these softwares, is it really a deal breaker if one asks for a credit card for the free trial? Even if its a scam I don't understand why this specific point excused it from testing if some people out there actually use it hoping it works.
@@pauleymuthni9346 I guess the whole point was to show that if an app requires a credit card to start a “free trial” then it’s a scam and you should avoid it.
The biggest slowdown usually is using multiple antivirus software! Many times I encounter 3-4, because the user thinks "the more the better, for super protection", but they slow down the system exponentially, because then each time a file is opened, 4 virus scanner halts the access and pre-scans it but sometimes when scan is done and then another AV wants to open and scan it too, then it can count as a new file opening :) It was an old "error" but still many times 3-4x antivirus can slow down file acces by much more... and these cleaners cant just stop AV startup without asking us first.... they should make suggestions about which one to remove or keep. ONE AV is good enough for realtime protection, but it's smart to have 1-2 more for ocassional full scans but without starting with windows (if possible) and only run when I start them manually every once in a while.
TuneBoto is at a sale right now. it's 25% off so I payed 90 dollars for a LIFETIME so I can download Amazon Video stuff forever. I finally have my hands on Spongebob Season 1 at 1080p 24fps instead of 720x480i in which the only scene that utilizes the 48 FIELDS PER SECOND (or 48i, not even 60i) is the part where Spongebob and Patricked plays with the fishing hooks before transitioning to Squidward and Mr. Krabs.
Unrelated tech tip: Put blue-tack on the bottom of that dock that you plugged the USB stick into (in the intro) so that you don't have to two-hand it. I did this with my headphone amp and I can shove a quarter inch jack in there one-handed and it doesn't budge.
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My aunt has Panda Cleanup. When I asked her if it is any good she replied “I like Pandas 🐼”. Can’t argue with that logic…
Honestly pretty based
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Not worse than installing CCleaner thinking it does anything tbh
@@breakinglegsandbreakinghea3167 pretty biased*
peak boomer response😂 W aunt
My grandpa refused to replace his DYING hard drive that was causing is relatively "okay" pc to be nearly unusably slow. He was just going to replace his whole PC when it finally died. Me, being the person that knew they were going to get called when that happened, decided to upgrade him to an SSD without telling him. Now he complains his PC is too fast. You literally can't win with old people.
Is this one of those "I used to be able to go and make a cup of tea and be back at the PC before it had finished starting up, now it just does it immediately! I used to feed the cat while I waited for Internet Explorer to load, but I keep forgetting to do it because it only takes 5 seconds! When am I supposed to make tea and feed the cat?!?!" situations? Been there.
Should’ve just swapped to another hdd. Lol. Still faster than what was offered back then but will slow down over the years.
My dad does the same thing. He just got a new PC with an SSD and when he was using it, he deleted some important files and emptied the recycle bin. He then lectured me and complained to me about how Microsoft made his computer too fast and they should slow down.
@@Josh_Quillan Haha for real!
@@Josh_Quillan Reminds me of an (amazon i think) review where the person complained that the ethernet wire was too fast since now he didnt have time to go make his coffee while something was doing something.
From real-world experience, a loved one that is calling for computer help isn't calling for help updating drivers, deleting startup items, or any of that. They call when something that was working stops working (usually a printer). Then you, the family's reluctant tech support, sits down at or remotes into their computer and are shocked and disgusted at the state of things and want to grab them by the shoulders and shake them violently while screaming "HOW DO YOU TOLERATE THIS?!?!" and suddenly the scope of your support call has broadened drastically.
(then 3 months later something goes wrong on their computer and you get a call that starts with "Something you did...")
I had a coworker pulling that crap on the machinery
That's exactly right, it has to be some sort of show stopper to get them to call. When I got there, their complaint was always the least of their problems :-)
So right with "Something you did..." lol, I stopped helping my relatives because of the blame game.
printers are just the worst.
this is what I want to do when I see someone use windows
I want to say that I just love how you guys make your own stock footage. It really shows production value and love for the craft. And they're also way better than generic stock footage
You mean….. Broll?
It's crazy how marketing can mislead people into buying software that essentially duplicates built-in Windows features, often worse. Always remember a lot can be achieved with built-in tools sparing your wallet unnecessary damage.
Yea, my motto since buying my first PC about 25 years ago has always been "Never pay for software", and I've stuck to it pretty rigidly with the exception of a few image editing programs, or when it was something I genuinely wanted after trying all the free options.
But anything like antivirus, PC cleaning, backup software, VPN, I always run away very quickly and make do with free alternatives.
@@JoeBob79569 zip file, is a good example the zip there first it as windows OS thing, and standard freeware/payed versions, are still more feacher-rich, than the windows option, alone, but widows missed more advance bit, is anyone gess,
This is why I left the marketing job because I dug deep to learn and realized how predatory it is for some companies who just want the money and not a good customer experience.
Nowadays I can easily detect some questionable, predatory, or even unethical marketing schemes and I get pissed when I see that constantly because I know that it works for those companies.
Look up soft ram, it was a $80 software back in the 90s sold over 700k units, claming they can double your ram using some special compression.
All the software did was increase the size of your swap file, something you can do it yourself without the software
@@paradoxzee6834 I used something like this for a while back in the day, where you could clear some of your ram if necessary. It was kind of handy for memory leaks and stuff..
Spent years with CCleaner, or as we used to say CC Cleaner. Lol.
Yes, CC Cleaner, that is how you say it!
It's not CC Cleaner?
@@christianslaughter8724 It's crap cleaner.
Haha ya, cc cleaner is what I say
Same, I've used CCleaner for 20 years, it's great.
Oh God, IOBIT. I remember an older version that decided my desktop was "junk documents" and cleared out my homework word docs. Not recycling bin, full delete, and had to rescue disk what I could.
I had that same thing happen to me with Avast, just a bit different. Once i plugged in my USB drive with plethora of stuff on it, it somehow thought that it was malware, and just cleaned the whole drive right into quarantine. That was the thing that tought me not to ever touch any of this junk software again.
I think i got bsods from using them.
I got avast as bloatware while installing smthing forgot what it was and omg the amount of ads i had to reset to delete it @@Neonflame
I remember them (Older version of Advance System Care) Cleaning my PC full of "Errors" so much so that it messed up with my boot partition and ended up leaving in a Windows recoverery loop. I wish I knew how to reinstall Windows at the time though.
Yea, they say your pc has errors. I say theyre liars. Your registry has a cache link to some usb drive thats not connected? THE HERROR!! OMG UER SYSTEM IS ALMOST DED GIV ME UR MONIES NOW MEBE I CAN SAVE IT BE QUICK OR BE DED LOL NEXT TIME DONT SPLIT UP JUST STICK WITH MICROSTILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER KILLING YOUR PC SOFTLY WITH HIS MICROSOFT WORDS
As for the fomo tactics, I'm so glad that EU introduced a solution to this: any sale or limited offer needs to come with a "lowest price in last 30 days", so if they had the same "limited offer" forever, they need to show you that this price isn't anything special.
To a degree.
More reputable and higher volume sites care about it.
Just checked (from EU) the iobit site (which redirected me to macbooster - I guess because of Chrome on iOS user agent?), aaand it looks scammy, no "lowest price in last 30 days", etc.
So, it's working worse than when GDPR went live, when some sites, especially news sites, just downright blocked the EU. Was fun to check NYT, and be reminded we're just not worth the hassle and be compliant :D
well iobit steal does the same in europe, just not every time now a days, I remember a few years ago I got pop ups for sales all the time, now I just really get them like on mother days, christmas and stuff like that, but I also dont run the software all the time just when I need it
iobit after this one:💀
Only works if they are honest, which most sites that use said tactics are not
@@PrintEverything20005 with how the open internet is archived, it's really easy to find it out if they lie. Sure it won't ever be bullet-proof, but for the most part it does its job.
Thanks for taking the time to slow down and explain the graphs rather than jiust flashing them up on screen and expecting us to make sense of them in under 5 seconds.
I'm so glad you addressed the marketing tactics. These issues are across the board and drive me crazy!
I have a video idea. There are lots of poorly written softwares out there. That even after uninstalling remain in your registry. One of the most annoying software like this is the new ASUS suite. Terrible to get out of your pc. Even after multiple tries fragments still lingered. Ultimately I had to do a reinstall of windows. A video about getting clean uninstalls would be greatly informative and appreciated.
Revo uninstaller might work?
Ccleaner and some of these other softwares have registry cleaners.
Revo Uninstaller FTW
@@alexdavis9324 The Asus suite in particular is like that comicbook where Wolverine regenerates from a single drop of blood. It has A LOT of separate parts that act as standalone applications and missing a single one would allow the software to regenerate. It took me 4 reboots and several hours meticulously finding every program with "Asus" anywhere in its data and I even had to go and clean out some regs by hand because my programs overlooked them
bulk crap uninstaller is a blessing
More than 10 years ago, I used to work in a computer repair shop and CCleaner was one of the best tools in my arsenal.
I don't know how it is these days
The only thing for it is useful is temp file cleaning, windows can do it partially, and registry cleaning. Everything else is bloatware, especially the driver garbage, you install anything from there, and you're asking for your pc OS get bricked.
It was bought by Avast and turned into a paid garbage scareware piece of crap... I'm very sad to see it lost but it is what it is
@@IchigoMait I'd only use reg cleaning as a last resort though, can do more harm than good.
meh ccleaner is more of a malware nowadays just use bleachbit
also NEVER use reg cleaners
I moved to Glary Utilities
Nothing beats the Browser "Toolbar" era for bogged down computers. I don't even know if you can come close unless you turn on every Windows Telemetry spyware "feature".
Those were the days. A bit of AVG, Ad-Aware, SpySheriff wait no ABORT
I remember helping my aunt with her computer way back in the day. There were rows upon rows of toolbars in her IE. Nearly half of the available screen space. Quire an horrible experience.
A few years later she eventually started using some other browser (Chrome?) and asked me if I knew how to migrate "all the usefull toolbars".
I saw one in the wild that mimicked the browser bar meme. They had 7.
lots of software had toolbars attached to them. if you didnt pay attention and just spammed next you'd get bogged down . avg, norton, etc had their own toolbar installs even popular search companies had their own like aol, yahoo,ask jeeves, etc
@@the-nomad-show😂😂😂 I've heard this before. Never have I wanted to bash my head into a wall more than when someone's ASKS you to rebloat their system. Makes me irrationally angry
Also one thing to note that would make the PC slower is using disk cleanup for temp files to often. Temp files do make your PC faster and constantly removing them, forces the programs to make them new. A program might build an index or caches some work in the temp files, so it can look for them the next time its started and use these files. One example would be thumbnails. A thumbnail is just a smaller size version of that picture or any file, that is good enough for a preview.
I would suggest to start a cleanup run when your drive turns red in the explorer. When it happens more than once per month and you can't make out the culprit (downloads folder, games) and think about cleaning your drive up (not just cleaning a specific place like downloads or uninstalling games), think about a new drive. When your drive is at the last few gigs, your PC will get slower and might even refuse to do updates. Also keep an eye out for the ram usage. When its close to max, it gets messy. Windows will start to use your drive as ram and that is slow and when you only have a HDD, its dead slow and you might think its stuck. When this happens at boot up, boot into recovery mode and uninstall some shit. Had this once with one of our office PCs (its used for training for our customers) and it was Dell and Avira doing their stuff and hitting max on the RAM. The PC wasn't well maintained and was unused for quite some time and probably both thought they now must keep up and do a lot of stuff. It was unusable at this point.
Missed a significant factor: do they break or remove stuff you actually want to keep.
I have a Razer RGB keyboard. When I first got it I was using a cheap laptop as my main machine and I decided to install Razer Cortex to help with gaming performance. I began to notice that every time I played a game I’d be unable to print while and after the game was running, only fixing itself after restarting. Turns out Cortex was “optimizing” my laptop by shutting off random system processes to help on ram usage, including the process which handles printing and wouldn’t restart it afterwards. Fortunately there’s a configuration page so I could turn off “printer optimizations” and print again, though I’m never gonna use it again because who knows what other things it’s touching.
No they don’t usually. Stick with the free CCleaner
I accidentally CCleaned my friends WHOLE c drive. Every photo, every song, everything he had there. Its one of the most painful "uhh.. Im sorry I dont know what happened"s in my life. I had used CCleaner for years before that and just did a regular cleanup.
@@DougalYoung …
@@DougalYoung WTF? CCleaner having an entire drive wipe feature (especially for boot drive) is insane, clientele considered...
From using one of their piece of software before:
IObit also regularly push popup on your system to upsell you on partner products. (Even while using the paid version.)
I would recommend to avoid them like the plague.
Ive used it for years. Just use their own software to dissable it on startup and, no popups.
i've a cracked version of driverbooster, it's amazing... but i had to stop those popups in the settings, same with ccccleanerrrrrrrr
I disable their popups and reminders with the task scheduler.
Elijah, I wish the best for you and Sydney. You seem very happy together.
These last few videos have felt very focused and written really tight, well done!
Autoruns for windows is amazing. It shows you start up applications as well as those on task scheduler and registry items
I really liked that OpenWRT router ad. I didn't knew there were those kind of things of sale nowadays, looks like a good product, and probably get plenty of people on the rabbit hole of what DD-WRT were and are, which is good 🙂
Revo Uninstaller takes application uninstalls one step further and scans for leftover files. You might be surprised how much data some applications leave behind after it's "uninstalled".
IOBit Uninstaller also does this; it's surprising how many Registry fragments and floating files get left lying around!
@@360FovThe only reason why I still have it installed. Some uninstallers are utterly trash!
Whenever it comes time to uninstall things, Revo is my go-to, for normal people they see it as overkill because you're basically nuking the files from orbit but it makes a hell of a difference
Ever heard of BCUninstaller? I think it's better than revo and iobit
Revo is the only third party software I'll use on my PC over Windows (and O&O ShutUp10) when it comes to modifying or cleaning up the OS.
I learned a long time ago if you just use common sense, leave the OS alone (O&O doesn't delete or modify, it just shuts the service off), and do a full backup, Windows actually works pretty good.
Oh, and shut down startup programs you don't need.
Cleaning software is like walking a downtown China street market with everyone yelling discounts to buy from them. 😂
That "discounts" sometimes aren't even a true discount, but a previous normal price. Some of them are marking up the price so much to increase their profit margin
12:47 uninstaling cockie clicker shoud be a crime
Agree,. i got 821 hours and {561/637} 88% of Achievements in steam xD but collect Sugar lumps take time xD
I'd agree but you have a anime pfp
@@DarkestAngel69 i will absolutely change my pfp just to not break the chain
@@DarkestAngel69mf u have one too
@@UwU-rn8xo You were safe regardless. You've got UwU in your randomly generated(?) display name.
12:17 Damn, that's a lot of programs! I only have 6 enabled. I could even cut those down a bit, but there's a few I like running at startup.
Same here. I only have PowertToys, Rainmeter, EarTrumpet, and Everything running at startup.
I went from a mechanical to an m.2 solid state a few years back and my system has never been the same. That was the biggest game changer I have ever seen in pc upgrades. That was better than any cpu or ram upgrade I have ever made.
@@teddine7366 I like ssd 🙂
CCleaner ' CrapCleaner ' still has it's original core features as free and remaining working as designed. As long as you don't touch the added stuff since it was bought out, you're getting what's expected from CCleaner's origin.
Ccleaner was bombared with malwares .
Unfortunately the same can't be said for their Android version. I tried using it to clean up my mom's completely cluttered phone and it was terrible. Unskippable full screen video ads every time you try to do anything and the cleaning pretty much did nothing while also not showing enough details.
I ended up going back to using Cx File Explorer to clean junk manually; my mom had uninstalled Cx Explorer and installed CCleaner in the time since I previously cleaned her phone.
owner of multiple iobit software here.
They still do this ESPECIALLY when they ask you to upgrade to a new version.
the download page will bombard you with the same strats asking you to upgrade to the paid versions.
If you have a super "bogged down computer", you may want to consider two profiles for what you do. For example I have a profile for gaming only where I only have games and discord running on. My standard profile gets as much as 40% lower 1% lows. Some systems are beyond saving though. Wiping and installing programs to local profiles vs the entire system is a good way to have a profile where everything you need / want to run, is running and you don't need to worry about starting them. At the same time if you need every single frame you can swap to a secondary profile.
That's actually quite smart, thanks for the tech tip!
I've been using the Razer game booster to kill a whole bunch of processes and services when gaming but creating a new gaming user profile is a good idea too.
Ok, if im being honest I DO have IObit but its just the uninstaller software mainly cus it clears every instance of a software including windows registries just making it easy to trouble shoot a program. when you install IObit you have a choice to have others installed so guessing they didnt do that. And 12:10, If the app isnt listed or you like more control (Press the win key, Type services, click on the tab labeled "startup types" to sort them, find the program you like to have manual control over, Right click on it, click properties, change automatic to manual, hit apply) now your app only start when you like giving you more control then task manager since i have some apps that are just not listed that start up on there own and are not even enabled in software.
I have been using AVG tuneup for over 2 years now and I’m very happy with the features, I don’t understand that you didn’t test AVG tuneup but did test CCleaner because “the UI and features were different enough”. But so does AVG tuneup, yet you didn’t test it.
Please more content like this make it fun make it understandable people need this. Thank you very much very worthwhile very useful
Love seeing actual Tech Tips every now and then! Great video
"I remember my grandmother saying to me, I don't care what they tell you in school, CCleaner was CC Cleaner" :DD
Should've tested on super low end PCs/laptops. Like ones that just have 2 cores or 4 ecores, etc. Those are the ones that wold need it most since a fast PC can bruteforce past background programs
My go to tool for a couple of decades has been 'Glary Utilities'. Free version pretty much does everything the average person would need it to. Very simple to use and easy to understand interface.
Rarely gets a look at in these types of reviews though sadly.
I love the interface for IOBit Uninstaller and IOBit Driver Booster. I use the pro versions and just have all the notifications and auto-launch and auto-updates disabled. It never runs in the background and I just open them when I need them. They are truly simple software.
Same here. On top of that i have fixed multiple laptops in our office just by running Driver Booster and installing the WHQL drivers. Somehow it always install correct chipset and device drivers.... Advanced System Care is in my startup for last 4 years and yes it pop up sometimes, but its once a week not more than that. Im a server engineer and i know how to clear cache, defrag and trim my drives and etc but its just all in one plus ASC updates my notepad++, 7zip and etc.
Next time NordVPN sponsors a video, you also should talk about FOMO marketing.
I remember a water flosser did the site lock-up trick so lol
all the vpn sponsor spots should be avoided like the plague.
@@LegionRRTX Portmasters SPN is thr only option for me since it's actually designed for independent use every connection can have a different location
so reddit can be Russia and anime piracy site can be Australia hehe
Elijah is doing great as a presenter at 3:29, you should call him more often.
Much better than that annoying guy with the cap
Was gonna upvotr but it was at 69.
Looks like palmer luckeys kid if he were to have one lol
Having the intro after explaining that much is a really great idea since we are already so much engaged with the video that it just makes us want to skip it to continue the video
Funny enough, from the image of that popup you showed of IObit when you went to close, I recognized it as one of the ones that a remarketing company used that I worked for a year back. Went and checked the source code and confirmed it. The popup discount before close is a very very effective tool to create conversions.
Yeah, I wish people were savvy enough to stop that type of interaction. I specifically *don't* buy something if I see something like that to try to discourage it, but unfortunately I'm only a small data point.
@@andypeters3011 I felt empty while coding stuff like this, so I 100000% agree with you. But I also saw the data, and it is unbelievable how effective they are. I cant share actual statistics (NDA) But its a lot more then you could possibly imagine. I hate it, but if the money is there people will always pay for it.
9:01 if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
So if you pay for a single ride at a theme park, you have to be allowed to use it alway?
@@wyterabitt2149 a theme park needs maintenance. Digital things will work precisely the way they were programmed forever as long as they are not modified.
@@wyterabitt2149 mf can pirate a theme park ride, respect 🙏
@@ligrettoI would download a tilt-a-whirl…
Theme park rides would fall under 'rentals' in my dictionary
We speedin' up Grandma's computer with this one
To speed it up download more ram
Haha bro 🤣 me obey Mr Linustech
What i had got ❤ where it go
I download ram using Linux arch dual boot, and the ram goes into my Windows 12
Grandma Hillary already cleaned up her computer with Bleachbit.
When are you testing Chris Titus' debloat tool? (Yes, it's not for removing user bloat, but for debloating the fresh install. Would have been nice to see a bar for a bare minimum Windows install)
I've managed to lower the process count from 105-110 to 79 with his debloat tool, it was just a wow moment for me. It became a must do for ever windows installation since.
The Chris Titus PowerShell Debloater is Godly, and is personally part of every rebuild process!
@@Milos.Ivanovic The processes count don't matter ~~ Who'se Line and Linux users.
Debloating your system sounds like a nice idea until it breaks something or several functionalities you didn't expect. And the impact is marginal, at best.
@@Mario583a Linux with open source an self-hosted tools is insane having a XFCE installed on a USB by itself runs insanely well
Holy cow!!! Don't think I've ever been more proud of my build --- from circa 2015! Home built; granted still running Win8.1*, but has a SSD main, & a big mechanical secondary for storage. From a cold start I can log into Windows in under 15 seconds(and if I get the password right on the first try), I'll be ready to rock in around 30 seconds, and most of that time is the VPN connecting. I always build for longevity and don't game(but run a 4k monitor), so I'm taking this as win and patting myself on the back!!!!
*I know, I know... The first thing I did after after installing the O/S back then was setting it up so I almost never see the 'Metro' screen unless I absolutely have to. Have been looking into upgrading the O/S, and I'll probably start by making it dual boot and slowly move over to Linux. Just haven't had the time or enough incentive yet.
I get using Windows 8.1, it is much faster than 10.
@@xandermckay9806 Thanks for the confirmation. I don't keep up much on the details; but after over 30 years dealing with computers, the one assumed given is that every new generation of O/S is more bloated than the last.
A comparison to an older system would have been interesting too!
Do this:
i9 CPU
64GB RAM
4090
30+ startup programs....
boot hard drive.
@@TheHammerGuy94 im pretty sure dawid made a vid about this
I learned this lesson the hard way. Used to care a lot about these optimizer software then I just stopped using them and figured out the root of these issues. These software basically just disable the startup upps or kill a few background processes which is not worth the money nor the disk space. Great video as always!
THE INTRO!!!
thank God 🙌
I have been that guy who is remembered when their PC becomes slow. Was quite excited to watch when I saw the thumbnail. Traditionally I have used CCleaner and Avast to speed things up. And I used to observe a significant change. The results in the video felt odd, maybe because they were being tested on a gaming PC. I personally would like this to be tried on normal i3/i5 8GB/16GB laptops that are widely purchased.
The only thing I would disagree with is using 3rd party software to backup the drive. Windows has a built-in Windows backup that works far better. It IS hidden a bit (Windows wants your data and cloud money for online backups). Control Panel>System & Security>File History. Then look for the very small "System image backup" on the bottom left of the page. Plug in your external harddrive then click it. It will automatically select the important stuff. You just have to select whatever extra stuff you want. EASY.
To restore a completely screwed up PC or transfer to a better drive, relaod Windows, then go to same place as before in Control Panel File History but select restore at the top left.
It is a missed opportunity that you did not include an adjusted windows install. Microsoft does offer the option for you to configure the windows install to your need - like completely removing large parts of the system. Those things are more than enough that my old i5 760 had a boottime of ~40 seconds on an old HDD even after having been bloated for nearly 10 years.
what?! does it allow you to debloat and remove stuff to make it like tiny11 version of windows?
Nope
If you're talking bout creating custom Windows images, that is doable, but it likely will be too difficult and time consuming for most people do. Then you also have the inherent risk of people not knowing what they're doing and removing critical components they assumed were not important.
@@JJFlores197 it takes a bit of time (but there are great tools to simplify it and also pre-made images).
And i would expect that many people watching LTT where they did things like virtualise multiple Systems onto a single PC would be quite interested in such a comparatively simple thing.
Being comfortable with backing up your stuff and doing a fresh install of your OS is the only it knowledge almost anybody will ever need
I’m not comfortable with Elijah not wearing some kind of safety hat.
Another thing about IO bit. It starts advertising to you on your desktop once installed. My girlfriend bought it and she threw an absolute fit and there's no way to turn off that advertising. Eventually she uninstalled it and swore she'd never buy anything like it again.
I remember using some cleaner/utilities for windows such as:
- Slimware Utilities
- TuneUp Utilities
- System Mechanic
- Advance Uninstaller Pro
I'm a big believer in re-installing windows periodically. Back before windows had a built-in reset feature I would do a clean install with a flash drive. But these days you can just go into your settings and perform a reset. I always clear everything, retaining no data, settings, or apps. Then I just move my stuff back from my second drive. I do this probably once a year.
Chris Titus's winutil tool is a great way to actually debloat windows (fresh installs too) It's a little more DIY because people will be afraid of the CLI, but it does the job.
For uninstalling software I like to use Revo Uninstaller.Can remove basically everything and looks afterwards if there's any files that is left behind by the regular uninstaller. Also can uninstall Windows apps. Do be careful as it can also uninstall System files.
Thanks, now i can finally delete system32
The intro is back?!
probably because the video is about speeding up, and intro slows the video down lmao
Sometimes they play the intro in the new videos.
They moved out but they come back to visit occasionally
They sprinkle the intro in randomly
I belive they use it when it wouldn't be in the first minute.
Linus is back with the tech tips
I dropped CCleaner a few years ago for Glary Utilities. I rarely use things like that, but have them for quick clean ups.
Glary Utilities is solid. I've used it to shave 30+ seconds off of bloated load times on relatives' computers. Also, it doesn't employ the obnoxious marketing that some other software packages use.
glary utilities is by far the best software i’ve used. just the free one even
@@gothnate BleachBit is better
12:48 NOOOO not cookie clicker😢
I had to check if this video was just released or if it was released 5 years ago
Step one! Lol, straight to business, that was jarring
not if you read the title first
Totally feels like an intro was missing.
Used to work at Office Max many many moons ago. They offered pc cleanups and honestly it was just me running Ccleaner and a Malwarebytes scan. Think it was $40 bucks? Can’t remember, but was amazed people would gladly pay it. (We were supposed to hookup and have a remote tech do the work, but it took forever and 90% of what they did was literally that.)
Pleasantly surprised with the ASL 6 at 11:45! I wonder how much sign Linus knows 🤔
Oh wow. A sponsor that I can actually get behind. Been using the flint 2 router for about 6 months now.
Its a great open sourced router, 100% recommend!
I can't believe they offer defragmenting. I guess it's just a basic service that's been around since the 90s that they just didn't bother to take off but it has almost no purpose for the vast majority of consumers today as they won't even have a hard disk drive anymore.
Defragmenting an SSD is basically pointless. I would argue it may actually do more harm than good because you're doing unnecessary read and write operations that would shorten the lifetime of the drive (though probably not significantly) with no performance gain because SSDs random access times equal their sequential times.
You literally can not defragment a SSD.
@@finkelmana
And if you still have a larger HDD as your data grave you probably rarely write on it, and when you do in large blocks, so there's hardly any defrag to do.
@@finkelmana you can run a defragment on an SSD. It won't have any positive effect. Or shouldn't anyway.
I mean the way they write information is randomish anyway due to wear leveling so you would probably end up with many things saved in different locations but still as random and uncontiguous as it was before.
It would be interesting to map the memory locations visually before and then after running one to see.
There is nothing physically stopping a defrag from running. It's just memory addresses pointing to physical locations. The SSD also has that. The physical location is just on a nand chip instead of a disc.
Maybe they've added stuff to defragmenting programs to check and see if it's an SSD and then tell you it won't run the operation but if so, it hasn't always been like that.
@@pixels_per_inch No, actually you cannot. You are right, that really old or improperly coded defrag software will run on SSDs. However, it is pointless. The SSDs wear-leveling will cause the data to be written non-contiguously. As I correctly stated, you cannot defragment a SSD.
@@gemcrim5904 I love how you disagree with me and then write about wear-leveling and agree. :P
You guys should do a video on the basis of if ANTI-VIRUS is actually needed these days or if windows defender is enough, testing common trojans and other viruses with the LAB
Already answered on their old videos, windows defender always gets updated and detects 92% of viruses, if the 8% bugs you well then learn how to do proper internet etiquettes like not dowloading random files off the internet like an idiot
I hardly ever thumbdown videos, but I had to with this one. I didn't expect a deep dive, but this one didn't even scratch the surface. What did the programs do to achieve the unslowdown and what explains the different results?
Yeah I agree they should have included a bit more about that each tool actually does, as well as give examples of how to do those things, and more, on your own.
I believe to speed up pc is" over clock cpu by increase frequency" simple it is i believe for disk space just compress all backup file save lot of space and disk clean up definitely save space even lot space save too but i want to to knows is program install in pc is slow pc speed or program which not install on pc but is install on other pc we just copy the program from program file to a dvd and run it in our pc for example does these slow most our pc performance or not but in these things i don't know nothing what it does .but i believe it slow it most or not in all i don't know sometimes i believe it only not effect the pc performance but in anytime i can compress when i don't use it when i don't use it .
Interesting start...
Agreed
CCleaner. Now that's a blast from the past. Glad to see they are as good as when i first used it in the 2000's
Would be interesting to see you guys test Chris Titus' Windows Debloat tool to see how much that speeds up, or slows down, Windows.
i love how you guys make your own b-roll clips
You should do this test on a DDR3 laptop and a DDR4 laptop. I work at a PC shop, and that's real-world.
We bloatin' already bloated PCs with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
like begger
I've been using IObit since it was 6.2 version, which came out in like 2013. So it's been a long time. And I'm very happy with it.
Yeah, I don't understand the hate towards it. I use it as well and find it very useful. You can do a bunch of stuff all from one interface. It also doesn't slow down your system. It's probably the best of all these types of software.
You also don't need to download all the bloatware that comes with it like Linus did.
7:11 this Segway, to our sponsor.
Oh, he was serious.
My finger was already half way through the motion to slip yet video ahead by 30 seconds 😢
I've been programmed.
Segue*
8:21 kept thinking the wooden controller hanging above Linus was a Funko pop face
LTT is the only channel that rocks an epic and actually cool intro animation.
You should download more RAM.
Oh the outcome is soooo surprising. 😂
@@ToastedHeadcrab "Why didn't they work" 😂 You can glean a lot from the titles of each section.
You forgot to mention Linux; and I'm not joking. Runs from a thumb drive so no need to install until you're absolutely sure you want it on your computer and for some stuff, it does speed up your PC and uses less resources.
The video is specifically about windows though, so not point in mentioning linux or macOS. Although it is true that both of them are much faster on weaker systems, so yeah, if someone is comfortable using or learning to use linux, that is an option to keep using an older system relatively smoothly for some more time.
I myself have build like 6 different PCs, so not that much, but I try to keep my own PC as clean as possible. It boots up in slightly less than 30 seconds, but that mostly comes from paying attention what I install and also I automatically limit the autostart of apps to what I deem necessary. Additionally I always delete with 'Shift + Del' so the recycle bin is always empty (but it's a very dangerous practice). Also, that startup time is with a total storage of 10 TB (2TB M.2 [2x Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB, OS, games], 8 TB HDD [movie backups, projects which take up yes amount of storage]).
As a linux user, i want to say a linux mint iso is the best cleanup tool, but its not for everyone.
Also, I use arch, btw
CCleaner is still a good tool, you just gotta know what you're doing with it. Specifically for cleanup, not "speed".
Ah, these cleaning tools are a dying breed for a good reason. Take top of the line machine from 2015, bench it, get a new office PC, add a decent graphics card and RAM and bench that. You'll smoke that battleship from a decade ago. We've come to the point, that bloat is not an issue outside of computer start up, because the overall percentage of resources spent on bloatware is extremely low these days. We have essentially brute forced ourselves through the problem, meaning it's only work stations, that would benefit somewhat from software like this and, even there, there is the old "don't install, what you don't need" solution to keep your system fast.
11:23 No tech-impotent family member will ever ask for updated drivers or for deleting useless items. They don't even know what that means.
Most unrealistic part of the video.
CCleaner user here since Vista era. Never failed me. Although, it got a lot worse when it comes to being a "nagware" after they were bought by AVG, it still does the job for me.
Chris Titus has a great powershell utility that has to be the single most useful tool really for Windows. No download and totally free.
4:27 Just a question. If you were willing to buy these softwares, is it really a deal breaker if one asks for a credit card for the free trial? Even if its a scam I don't understand why this specific point excused it from testing if some people out there actually use it hoping it works.
@@pauleymuthni9346 I guess the whole point was to show that if an app requires a credit card to start a “free trial” then it’s a scam and you should avoid it.
0:50 That Canadian good stuff
was that catnip?
I have the ultimate PC speed-up: install a lightweight Linux distro :)
The biggest slowdown usually is using multiple antivirus software! Many times I encounter 3-4, because the user thinks "the more the better, for super protection", but they slow down the system exponentially, because then each time a file is opened, 4 virus scanner halts the access and pre-scans it but sometimes when scan is done and then another AV wants to open and scan it too, then it can count as a new file opening :) It was an old "error" but still many times 3-4x antivirus can slow down file acces by much more... and these cleaners cant just stop AV startup without asking us first.... they should make suggestions about which one to remove or keep. ONE AV is good enough for realtime protection, but it's smart to have 1-2 more for ocassional full scans but without starting with windows (if possible) and only run when I start them manually every once in a while.
every time the LTT intro hits I just get hit by a semi truck of nostalgia
The best "Speed Up" tool, is to not use any tools at all.
As a linux user and someone who successfully converted most family members to linux years ago, this video makes think of all the time I have saved :)
TuneBoto is at a sale right now. it's 25% off so I payed 90 dollars for a LIFETIME so I can download Amazon Video stuff forever. I finally have my hands on Spongebob Season 1 at 1080p 24fps instead of 720x480i in which the only scene that utilizes the 48 FIELDS PER SECOND (or 48i, not even 60i) is the part where Spongebob and Patricked plays with the fishing hooks before transitioning to Squidward and Mr. Krabs.
Please DONT Defrag an SSD/M.2, Your using read and writes it doesn't need to be using, SSD's & M.2 DO NOT get faster from a Defrag. ONLY DEFRAG HDD's
Most software detect its and ssd and just perform trim and ssd specific optimizations
Unrelated tech tip: Put blue-tack on the bottom of that dock that you plugged the USB stick into (in the intro) so that you don't have to two-hand it.
I did this with my headphone amp and I can shove a quarter inch jack in there one-handed and it doesn't budge.
Ooh, I've been using IObit Advanced System Care for 8 years now so this might get me to change over to something else.