Can you explain this better for me... 6 lbs of media used and 38% moisture so...2.28 lbs of water.. can you skip the weighing out the water and just put the 6 lb bag of media on the scale and add water until it is 8.28 lbs?
Thank you again for how well you explain everything in the process! I made the mistake of buying a 50lb. bag of hulled millet... found out the hard way that without the hulls the substrate turns to mush :[
Thank you for everything you are teaching me. It is truly appreciated. I just received a bunch of grow kits as a birthday gift and got very interested in the whole process. So thank you for the great knowledge you are putting in these videos.
Moister Content: Weight of Mass / 100 * 38% = Weight of water 3.8 kg (got this number from 2:04, assuming the weight is kg) / 100 * 38% = 1.444kg of water 1.444 kg to cups is 6.1 cups of water
Según el peso de la báscula, él mezcla 3,8 lb de mijo más 2.25 lb de agua. Por lo tanto es el 38% de agua de una bolsa de 6 lb de peso total. 6 x 0.38 = 2,25 lb de agua. Pero eso no equivale a decir que la bolsa tiene un 38% de humedad. Es posible que para un 38% de agua, la humedad del spawn sea del 60% aproximadamente. Por ejemplo.
Comprobado. Si hacemos una regla de tres a partir de las cantidades de grano y agua que él mezcla, la cantidad de agua que añade supone un 60% del peso seco en grano. Si 3,8 lb de grano seco equivale al 100%, 2,25 lb de agua sería redondeando el 60%. (2,25x100)/3,8 = 59,21% ~ 60%. Saludos.
It seems that the 38% part wasn't quite clear for many of us.. Would you be so gentle as to clarify this again, maybe with an example and measures with a recipe? You mean that for 100grams of grain you would need 38ml of water? Thank you : )
In quart jars you want to use half of the total weight. Just weigh in grams. 1ml water=1 gram But one ml of millet or grains won't be a gram because of density. If you're using heavier bags you want less moisture content in higher lb bags. So the weight of the grain and then 38% of that in grams of water.
Great Channel! I noticed you saying "millet is good when used to inoculate other bags". My observation is that millet used as nutrient source is not ideal because it holds quite a bit less moisture than for example rye berries which lowers the yield alot. Due to the simplicity of the preparation with the no boil method and the amount of inoculation points its also my choice as grain spawn - to spread it over a different nutrient source. It's crazy how fast millet colonizes when inoculated with liquid culture compared to other grains. Enjoying those videos alot!
Are you saying, you think Millet doesn't hold as much water so that would lower yields? Because if so you could just add extra water to your substrate mix to make up the difference. Have you done any testing with isolated genetics for yield comparisons with rye berries and millet?
Hello! Greetings from Romania! Can you make a video about the temperature in the rooms, the level of humidity and other technical details? Already love your youtube page, hope you post more in the future because it is a great source of inspiration for my and the business i want to build :)
It all depends on the strain of mushrooms and your production size. Using CO2 meters and temp gauges and humidity controllers helps with keeping your environment climate controlled. Check out a few books on growing mushrooms for specific details about temp ranges that are ideal for each mushroom strain.
so cool!!! your videos has some really quality info, man can you help with one question, i love it the way you prepare the millet grain, could this method work with common wheat or brown rice??? have a nice day man
Thank you! You will want to seal after sterilization in a clean environment(sealing prior will cause bags to burst), usually in front of the flow hood, after inoculation occurs.
Hey i love the channel and i have been growing for a little bit not but im super interested in your method here... little unclear on what you mean by 38% of the 6 lbs. Do you mean 3.72 lbs dry grain + 2.28lbs of water? THanks!
@@oosoos-caboose im pretty sure what i said is right. The grain will absorb the water and should be about right. I might do this myself and try a bag to see if it adds up
@@mckenzier4363 seems like you would want the percentage of total grain weight. Imo that quantity of water might be too much for just shy of 4 lbs grain. If you try it out, lmk
@@oosoos-caboose i get my large scale in today so i can try it then. Ill keep you updated. If you look at the video around 2:05 you can see the weight just before he pulls it off the scale. Thats how i was coming up with those numbers
If that is the case, mentally I can figure that it is 38% of total weight is water. "Moisture content" made it seem like there may have been an extra formula to convert
Hello, thanks for the awesome info drop! I watched all three of your videos last nite. i have been playing around small time for 5+ years, about to take the leap to large scale. i have always just soaked my grains overnite but i want to try skipping that step and do it all in the bag like this. my apologies if i missed the info in the video, but when you say your adding 38% water, do you mean for 5 LB BAG your adding 3.1# grain and 1.9lb water 5x .38= 1.9 water and 3.1 grain? or 5lbs grain and then 1.9 water? i remember years ago trying this and it worked out pretty well just pouring water till it was just under even with the grain, going 1.9 water and 3.1 grain seems to be more water than grain. thanks in advance. Great looking facility, i wish i had that much room. i have a bunch of multipileum going right now and just starting to fan out.
Great information here. One tiny wedge of tissue can do so many amazing things. Love the content of the channel so far, keep up the great work. What is done with your spent grow blocks?
Try out different amounts of grain spawn and find what works best for your operation. Depending on your environment/equipment, you’ll find what works better for you and maximize your profits.
That grain has pesticides on it. I used it for a long time and it would leave rashes on my arm, I used it for a year before it started to show up. Now I only use oats. When you add water and grain together doesnt it just cake the bottom of the bag and cause the top to dry out? Thats been my experience with pour and pressure cooking.
from the little experience i have doing this all in one method i always had to mix the grain well while it was still hot to distribute the over hydrated bottom stuff so as it cool it equalizes better.
Could I use the exact same tek for whole oats? Specifically talking about just pouring the water in the bags and PCing rather than boiling the grains first.
Yes, but I still let the bags sit for 24 hours for any endospores to germinate before I autoclave 'em. Not sure if I have to, but I figure it's better safe than sorry. Maybe look up Mossy Creek Mushroom's channel too if you want a video, Andrew has a couple videos on his process with oats. He soaks his oats in a bucket instead of a soaking in the bag, but it's basically the same.
Thanks for your valuable information. I have a question please, So, 3.72 Lb dry millet + 2.28 water(with a little bit of gypsum) = 6 Lb. left them for 24 house but still pretty wet. What went wrong?
You said 38% moisture. But when i add 0.380 kg of water to 1 kg of dry grain water doesn't cover the seeds like your grain bag. Your grain bag shows the level of water covering the seeds. I am confused 😕
Hey! Lobster mushrooms are actually a bit unique-they’re not a single mushroom species but rather a parasitic fungus (Hypomyces lactifluorum) that infects other mushrooms, usually certain Russula or Lactarius species. This makes them difficult to cultivate because they require a host mushroom to grow. Unlike Lion’s Mane, which can be cultivated from tissue culture, lobster mushrooms don’t respond to tissue culture alone since they rely on finding a specific host in the wild. They’re fascinating but tricky to work with in a controlled setting!
@@princegold1927 Thank you! Fungi are absolutely amazing in their variety and functions. I’m glad you enjoyed the video-really appreciate your support! Let me know if you have any questions about growing or anything else!
Sorry about the bots, I like popcorn a lot and personally don’t like brown rice since it tends to cake up. I’ve heard bird seed is good but haven’t tried it. Really the best is to find what you prefer though
If growing on a professional level, with lots of your time, hard work, and $$ invested, you'd want to be as efficient and successful as possible. Noccin' up ready rice bags is for someone dipping their toes into mycology, but is horrible for anyone wanting to make it a business.
You want to produce a condition that the mycelium manages to spread into volume in a short time and be immune to infections. If you mix the two stages the mycelium will not be able to spread quickly most likely the competitors will spread faster on the substrate. You develop from a small volume to a large volume only if you have enough volume of mycelium. It's all about mushrooms need patience and let nature work. You will learn the rhythm of the mycelium that will teach you a lot about life itself.
For a smaller vessels like quarts 2-2.5 hours works fine, for the spawn bag I aim for 3.5-4 hours to ensure core reach effective sterilization temperature.
You can get greedy with grains, ain't it? As long as the water, the grains, and the strains are certified, that should be a good start. My spawn, another kind of Shitake. www.mediafire.com/view/zzkuxijyser0ako/0f074d11-c43d-4edd-8d1b-51e0717652c5.jpg/file www.mediafire.com/view/xe9uqgv0e4934uk/0e55e44d-53fe-4f17-8739-a087a3eca278.jpg/file
Finally found you Mike.. can I buy from you ? Any way which I can contact you ? My contact as below: brazil_santos@yahoo.com.sg Hope we can able to contact each other..
so cool!!! your videos has some really quality info, man can you help with one question, i love it the way you prepare the millet grain, could this method work with common wheat or brown rice??? have a nice day man
![[Easiest Ever Grain Tek] No Soak, No Boil, Grain Spawn for Growing Mushrooms](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SuE7DkWZwVw/mqdefault.jpg)
You guys are nonstop information. This channels gonna blow in like a month just watch
Wow I'm loving the no soak technique, I'm gonna give it a try. I wish I knew of a place like this to work, it seems like an awesome job.
This the best way can’t go back
I’m loving these cuts dudes! Good stuff, super informative, can’t wait for more.
How much gypsum is a little bit? Awesome video...can't wait to put your instructions to use.
Can you explain this better for me... 6 lbs of media used and 38% moisture so...2.28 lbs of water.. can you skip the weighing out the water and just put the 6 lb bag of media on the scale and add water until it is 8.28 lbs?
This makes no sense to me because 38 % of the amount of water I need literally will fill the bottom of my bag an inch
You just started 2 videos ago and I already love this videos and closely follow you guys!
Thank you again for how well you explain everything in the process! I made the mistake of buying a 50lb. bag of hulled millet... found out the hard way that without the hulls the substrate turns to mush :[
I love being here in the beginning and to watch how you guys gain millions of subscribers.
Thank you for everything you are teaching me. It is truly appreciated. I just received a bunch of grow kits as a birthday gift and got very interested in the whole process. So thank you for the great knowledge you are putting in these videos.
Moister Content:
Weight of Mass / 100 * 38% = Weight of water
3.8 kg (got this number from 2:04, assuming the weight is kg) / 100 * 38% = 1.444kg of water
1.444 kg to cups is 6.1 cups of water
And if you do a 1kg formula it's 380gr which is 400ml =1.6 cups.
I believe the measurements are in lbs. Being that Southwest Mushrooms is located in Phoenix, Arizona. But your equation is correct.
@@shroomlessfarm thanks man, I could be wrong but I’m just trying to help everyone since there’s a lot of confusion lol
Según el peso de la báscula, él mezcla 3,8 lb de mijo más 2.25 lb de agua. Por lo tanto es el 38% de agua de una bolsa de 6 lb de peso total. 6 x 0.38 = 2,25 lb de agua. Pero eso no equivale a decir que la bolsa tiene un 38% de humedad. Es posible que para un 38% de agua, la humedad del spawn sea del 60% aproximadamente. Por ejemplo.
Comprobado. Si hacemos una regla de tres a partir de las cantidades de grano y agua que él mezcla, la cantidad de agua que añade supone un 60% del peso seco en grano. Si 3,8 lb de grano seco equivale al 100%, 2,25 lb de agua sería redondeando el 60%. (2,25x100)/3,8 = 59,21% ~ 60%. Saludos.
Its easy to shake and distribute mycelium and spores throughout the bags with millet, its my favorite to use and its cheap.
It seems that the 38% part wasn't quite clear for many of us.. Would you be so gentle as to clarify this again, maybe with an example and measures with a recipe? You mean that for 100grams of grain you would need 38ml of water? Thank you : )
Haha same I've seen this done so many ways but still not sure what the formula is
In quart jars you want to use half of the total weight. Just weigh in grams.
1ml water=1 gram
But one ml of millet or grains won't be a gram because of density.
If you're using heavier bags you want less moisture content in higher lb bags. So the weight of the grain and then 38% of that in grams of water.
One block of grain spawn is like a Sourdough starter!
Incredibly informative. Thank you!
Great Channel!
I noticed you saying "millet is good when used to inoculate other bags".
My observation is that millet used as nutrient source is not ideal because it holds quite a bit less moisture than for example rye berries which lowers the yield alot.
Due to the simplicity of the preparation with the no boil method and the amount of inoculation points its also my choice as grain spawn - to spread it over a different nutrient source.
It's crazy how fast millet colonizes when inoculated with liquid culture compared to other grains.
Enjoying those videos alot!
Are you saying, you think Millet doesn't hold as much water so that would lower yields? Because if so you could just add extra water to your substrate mix to make up the difference. Have you done any testing with isolated genetics for yield comparisons with rye berries and millet?
4.4 pounds grain + 760ml = 6 pounds bag of grain spawn.
Hello! Greetings from Romania! Can you make a video about the temperature in the rooms, the level of humidity and other technical details? Already love your youtube page, hope you post more in the future because it is a great source of inspiration for my and the business i want to build :)
Yes please!
It all depends on the strain of mushrooms and your production size. Using CO2 meters and temp gauges and humidity controllers helps with keeping your environment climate controlled.
Check out a few books on growing mushrooms for specific details about temp ranges that are ideal for each mushroom strain.
Hey, did you grow something?
so cool!!! your videos has some really quality info, man can you help with one question, i love it the way you prepare the millet grain, could this method work with common wheat or brown rice??? have a nice day man
Wondering where I can buy pre cleaned grains from, no rinsing and drying sounds nice. Thanks in advance 🙌🏽
I could be wrong but I believe he's just hydrating and sterilizing raw grain. You'll be hard pressed to find that (clean) of grain anywhere.
thank you so much. so you shouldn't be impulse sealing before pcing or does it matter?
Thank you! You will want to seal after sterilization in a clean environment(sealing prior will cause bags to burst), usually in front of the flow hood, after inoculation occurs.
your videos are awesome. I hope you are very successful with your business!
Loving these videos. Super informative. Thank you.
Hey i love the channel and i have been growing for a little bit not but im super interested in your method here... little unclear on what you mean by 38% of the 6 lbs. Do you mean 3.72 lbs dry grain + 2.28lbs of water? THanks!
6lbs to 2.28lbs(4.56 cups)? I would love clarification as well
@@oosoos-caboose im pretty sure what i said is right. The grain will absorb the water and should be about right. I might do this myself and try a bag to see if it adds up
@@mckenzier4363 seems like you would want the percentage of total grain weight. Imo that quantity of water might be too much for just shy of 4 lbs grain. If you try it out, lmk
@@oosoos-caboose i get my large scale in today so i can try it then. Ill keep you updated. If you look at the video around 2:05 you can see the weight just before he pulls it off the scale. Thats how i was coming up with those numbers
If that is the case, mentally I can figure that it is 38% of total weight is water. "Moisture content" made it seem like there may have been an extra formula to convert
Tons of great information here thanks man! I subbed so keep up the awesome vids!
How do you come up with your water to grain ratios? Do they differ depending on species?
waiting for more videos like this, guys!!
Hericium species look cool! Are they as tasty as advertised?
You are really expiring dude, thank you very much!
Great informative video.. thank you and keep up the great work !
Hello, thanks for the awesome info drop! I watched all three of your videos last nite. i have been playing around small time for 5+ years, about to take the leap to large scale. i have always just soaked my grains overnite but i want to try skipping that step and do it all in the bag like this. my apologies if i missed the info in the video, but when you say your adding 38% water, do you mean for 5 LB BAG your adding 3.1# grain and 1.9lb water 5x .38= 1.9 water and 3.1 grain? or 5lbs grain and then 1.9 water? i remember years ago trying this and it worked out pretty well just pouring water till it was just under even with the grain, going 1.9 water and 3.1 grain seems to be more water than grain. thanks in advance. Great looking facility, i wish i had that much room. i have a bunch of multipileum going right now and just starting to fan out.
38% of the weight of the spawn of water, so:
10# millet
+
3.8# water
What's your contamination rate with no soak grain spawn??
Great information here. One tiny wedge of tissue can do so many amazing things. Love the content of the channel so far, keep up the great work. What is done with your spent grow blocks?
Can i grow oysters on grain spawn and nothing else?
Great video. I do have a question. You seem concerned about waste. Have you considered alternatives to single use plastic bags?
Love these videos! Can you make one on your steralization process?
Hi, just wondering if i could split a 1.5kg grain spawn into 3x5kg hardwood pellet substrate for oysters as a first attempt
Try out different amounts of grain spawn and find what works best for your operation. Depending on your environment/equipment, you’ll find what works better for you and maximize your profits.
You're production quality is awesome, youre channel is sure to blow up.
So you leave the grain dusty and as is? No rinsing?
A question bro, how did you do your sterilization of the grain before you had a machine that can do it?
HI, so are you saying add 6 pounds of say barley. 2.722kg and then add 38% water which would be 1.03kg of water? Then pressure cook it.
This dude doesn't explain well
Is 4 hours of sterilization too long? I’ve been doing 90 minutes of sterilization, but for 3 pounds of millet and have had good results
Hello, what kind of materials are used for injecting mushroom spores to reproduce?please help
Love Uncle Ben's!
Do you need to do the initial soak?
What does the sterilizer look like? Please and thanks! Keep up the good work!
Thanks! We have a video on sterilization in the works. Stay tuned.
That grain has pesticides on it. I used it for a long time and it would leave rashes on my arm, I used it for a year before it started to show up. Now I only use oats. When you add water and grain together doesnt it just cake the bottom of the bag and cause the top to dry out? Thats been my experience with pour and pressure cooking.
from the little experience i have doing this all in one method i always had to mix the grain well while it was still hot to distribute the over hydrated bottom stuff so as it cool it equalizes better.
Thank you ! You r the champ !!!💪🏾
Good day. Sorry but i don't understand in english. How much water you put on how much millet. well thank you
6lbs of millet, 2.8lbs of water
Could I use the exact same tek for whole oats? Specifically talking about just pouring the water in the bags and PCing rather than boiling the grains first.
Yes, but I still let the bags sit for 24 hours for any endospores to germinate before I autoclave 'em. Not sure if I have to, but I figure it's better safe than sorry. Maybe look up Mossy Creek Mushroom's channel too if you want a video, Andrew has a couple videos on his process with oats. He soaks his oats in a bucket instead of a soaking in the bag, but it's basically the same.
Uncle Ben"s hahaha, I liked that. Im curious as whether there is an uncle Ben lol
Yes, supposedly there was an uncle Ben.
Thanks for your valuable information. I have a question please, So, 3.72 Lb dry millet + 2.28 water(with a little bit of gypsum) = 6 Lb. left them for 24 house but still pretty wet.
What went wrong?
He only adds 38% water. Take your grain weight, divide it by 100. Multiply that by 38. That would be 1.41 water.
You need a water pipe on that desk.
Tap to bucket to jug to bowl. 🤔
Or pipe with tap?
На один килограм сколько воды ?
You said 38% moisture. But when i add 0.380 kg of water to 1 kg of dry grain water doesn't cover the seeds like your grain bag. Your grain bag shows the level of water covering the seeds. I am confused 😕
Gpt says I need 60% water 😂
I woner if amaranth will work
nice sized grow
Excellent
Like truly excellent, camera person tracking with your hand technique on the bag fold. fire.
This is sooooo cool
As long as joe rogan doesn't add his crap
Lol this is a many levels above Joe Rogan.
just wondering what the benefit of sterilising for 4 hours at 15psi is over sterilising for 2? just for piece of mind?
Most likely because they are use larger sterilizers with lower heat so they have to adjust the time
I would like to try this seeds but dont know how to start my master grains is sorghum
Broo I need a response... lobster mushrroom ?!?!?!? Can it be grown from tissue culture like lions mane
Hey! Lobster mushrooms are actually a bit unique-they’re not a single mushroom species but rather a parasitic fungus (Hypomyces lactifluorum) that infects other mushrooms, usually certain Russula or Lactarius species. This makes them difficult to cultivate because they require a host mushroom to grow. Unlike Lion’s Mane, which can be cultivated from tissue culture, lobster mushrooms don’t respond to tissue culture alone since they rely on finding a specific host in the wild. They’re fascinating but tricky to work with in a controlled setting!
@@SouthwestMushrooms waw the fungi are truly unique .. thank you soo much greatly appreciated 💯
@@princegold1927 Thank you! Fungi are absolutely amazing in their variety and functions. I’m glad you enjoyed the video-really appreciate your support! Let me know if you have any questions about growing or anything else!
What are ur best grains to grow on
Sorry about the bots, I like popcorn a lot and personally don’t like brown rice since it tends to cake up. I’ve heard bird seed is good but haven’t tried it. Really the best is to find what you prefer though
Why don’t anyone from sw mushrooms reply? Good vids by the way.
please write the name of the grain in the package, give a link
Why avoid the uncle Ben's tek? It works
It does work, but I imagine if you've moved up to a scale like this Uncle Ben's would no longer be economical.
If growing on a professional level, with lots of your time, hard work, and $$ invested, you'd want to be as efficient and successful as possible. Noccin' up ready rice bags is for someone dipping their toes into mycology, but is horrible for anyone wanting to make it a business.
What a question..
This seriously doesn't need to be answered
Dumb question for anyone to answer: Why the spawn bag step instead of inoculating production blocks directly? Thanks! 🍄
You want to produce a condition that the mycelium manages to spread into volume in a short time and be immune to infections. If you mix the two stages the mycelium will not be able to spread quickly most likely the competitors will spread faster on the substrate. You develop from a small volume to a large volume only if you have enough volume of mycelium. It's all about mushrooms need patience and let nature work. You will learn the rhythm of the mycelium that will teach you a lot about life itself.
How much millet and water do you put in each bag? How much liquid from a spore syringe would you add to each bag?
Why do you sterilize them for 4 hours? That seems like a really long cycle. Shouldn't 2-2.5hr be enough?
For a smaller vessels like quarts 2-2.5 hours works fine, for the spawn bag I aim for 3.5-4 hours to ensure core reach effective sterilization temperature.
@@michaelcrowemycology is that just for the big 6lbers? Or do you use a long cycle for 3lbers too?
charlie brown just the 6lb bags, you can get away with 2-5-3 hours for a 3lb bag.
"a few other varieties as well"
I bet
Why he say stay away from the Uncle Bens 👀
Old comment but it’s too wet which can cause issues. Personally I prefer jars anyway, less plastic and you can see what’s happening better
04:49 turn around bruh. your buddy is glitching. next he'll start t-posing
😂
Please let me work for you
I thought that was j Cole in the thumbnail
You can get greedy with grains, ain't it? As long as the water, the grains, and the strains are certified, that should be a good start. My spawn, another kind of Shitake.
www.mediafire.com/view/zzkuxijyser0ako/0f074d11-c43d-4edd-8d1b-51e0717652c5.jpg/file
www.mediafire.com/view/xe9uqgv0e4934uk/0e55e44d-53fe-4f17-8739-a087a3eca278.jpg/file
uncles bens works sometimes LMAO
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Finally found you Mike.. can I buy from you ? Any way which I can contact you ? My contact as below:
brazil_santos@yahoo.com.sg
Hope we can able to contact each other..
That’s a lot of plastic bag waste...shame.
so cool!!! your videos has some really quality info, man can you help with one question, i love it the way you prepare the millet grain, could this method work with common wheat or brown rice??? have a nice day man