There's nothing like going through a newly acquired machine. Disassembling, cleaning, reassembling and dialing it in. Becoming intimate with every nuance of the machine. I've only had that experience once with my 1961 Logan 6561H. I look forward to the next machine. Love this series Mr Peterson. Time to 'rescue' another one! Thank you.
Thank you for posting this series. I have been looking for a small lathe for my shop but they are few and far between but watching your videos have been very informative as to what to do once I find one.
Excellent Video, Lyle; I love it when you get into tear downs and mechanics of the machines. As you pointed out, these are "living machines" and thus need regular care and feeding, and periodically need inspection and adjustment. Too many people seem to overlook that a little work on the front saves a great deal of work later on the back end. Many of the operations you did can be directly applied to other machines and machine types.
Lyle, your calm and relaxing way of explain things always holds my attention. Thanks for another great watch !! Your friend here in southwest Michigan, Cliff
Mr. Pete I spent many years as a diesel mechanic working on farm equipment. I would sometimes have a large tractor split into three pieces plus the cab taken off. Something I use to do is put the bolts back in the same hole I took them out of. Then when I was cleaning or repairing one particular part, I could keep all of those pieces together more easily. I highly doubt I know anything that you don't already know, but for me it helped keeping track of all the bolts.
FYI about 30 years ago I was put in the gray iron Dept of a large shop, a lot of people thought that was funny, not a good Dept, but what I remember is that all machines had a air hose on them, I now see what air does, I really like your vidios (David)
Great video. I can't believe you did all that disassembly, cleaning, oiling and reassembly in less then 24 minutes. Oh wait, perhaps it's the magic of Utube.
I continue to be impressed by your dear spouse's earnestness in placating the accumulation of quality machines,and tooling you collect,please do an exhaustive inventory, and monetary appraisal of all. Making note of any bequests to individuals and disposition of the bequeathing,upon your relinquishment of life on this mortal plane.May it be a far-far-away and distant!!
As someone without that level of gib experience, I've used dial indicators to assist by tightening them down, gently, until twisting the table won't move the indicator much, and it still slides with very little resistance. That really has helped me, since I don't do that kind of work more than once a decade or so.....
I use the indicator through out the process, much like you did at the end. I wouldn't have commented if I'd watched to the end. Thanks for the attaboy!!
Very nice mill. You and I have the same philosophy when it comes to cleaning up a piece of machinery, disassemble only what is necessary, clean and oil, and to heck with the repaint. I looked for a horizontal mill here in Houston, but they're rare as hen's teeth. The closest I came was a clapped out Van Norman No. 12 but it was too expensive. Thanks for the video!
We would run a fine hone lightly across the contact surfaces to remove any high spots. We manufactured a wonderful small air vacuum that worked well to clean the machines. I often wish I had one today.
Wow. One of your best ever. Thank you for taking so much time in making these videos. How many cameras set ups did you have in this one? Everything flows in the editing and your explanations are crystal clear. You are truly a fine machinist and artist. And performer.
MrPete - just a quirky note. I work at the same company as Abom79 doing web development. I use the 201KDD bearing to test some of our functions (like "add to cart"). It was serendipitous to see you order that part.
MrPete up early, posting a video for us to enjoy!! Lordy, I love your humor!! 9:45 smooooth! Was the tip of the Eagle oil can made to work with the Gits Ball Oilers? What this country needs more of, men who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty!! We never doubt you! Acorn nuts always give a classy finished look to a machine. A very good series.
Thank you for this clean up video. A man can never own too many tools. At first, I thought that you were going for your wife's dish towels, but, no you chose the guest sheets instead.
I really enjoy these cleaning and restoring videos, although there is not much restoring needed on this nice machine. If I were doing this, the reassembly would take a long time as I would have to stop and watch the videos of how it came apart! (I'm about your age.) Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
Good evening Mr. Pete, cannot say enough about how I enjoy your videos, I have finally got my clausing model #8540 ready to use. I have spent much time as you getting it cleaned and adjusted. My question is, It is without a vise what size would you recommend for me to use? I hope to see some projects in the near future using you machine, that you do, thanks again for all the excellent help that you give through your videos.
When I cleaned my lathe, I found oven cleaner to be far superior to engine degreaser. A little hard on the paint (flaky) but the factory paint held up fine. Rinse well.
Thanks for doing this series. A week ago bought the sister to your machine. It looks like it had minimal use. Using this series, I cleaned up my machine, removing the table. Same issues, the machine was gummed up with old, hardened grease and many, many steel and plastic chips. As of today, painting as I go, I'm about read y to reassemble. If you have any accessories, or extra parts that came with your machine that you want to part with, I have greenbacks that I'd be happy to send you. Question . . . what is the correct description of the taper? NMBT30?
Mr. Pete, have you ever seen a Bridgeport mill that had hydraulic motors that moved the table (both X and Y) and the knee? And also with ticker tape that you could program to run the mill. I found one for sale but it scared me because I never saw anything like it. Looks to me like it is one of the first cnc mills before there was real computers. It had a huge cabinet that housed the cnc mechanism. It was really wild looking!!!
Thanks Mr. Pete! I made a good decision for once. I left it sitting. But it intrigued me to no end. I had all kinds of thoughts on how I could convert it over to digital and have a one of a kind museum piece...
Mr. Pete; When you are tightening the gibs, how do you keep it square, and moving straight? If you have the left ones tighter then the right, wouldn't that tend to move at a slight angle? Not sure , just asking. That is a nice looking machine. Looking forward to seeing it in use. Have fun!!!!!! Michael
What sort of Chevy do you have. Here in the U.K. I’m restoring a 1953 Chevy 3600 truck. I look forward to seeing the machine in action. I have a modern Chinese mill with a VFD that I’m really happy with and a Boxford lathe. I also have a shaper I keep at work as I don’t have room or three phase at home. Great video thanks for sharing. Regards Chris
It is a good exercise to follow if your machine is quite old and there are no reference manuals to tell you where all of your lubrication points are. Unfortunately, the hidden points you find are likely the same one's that the previous operator missed over a decade or three.
so cast iron is very brittle.........it is and i have always wondered why they make machines out of it ? is it because its easier to machine and is heavier than normal steel ? please answer this question for me because inquiring minds want to know ..............lol
I'm a bit confused here. Was that way oil that you used to lubricated the saddle? The way oil i know has a thicker consistency, almost like chain saw oil. Did i miss something here?
I am disappointed sir - at 3.15 - you said "to loosen" and not a single mention of the short legged french impressionist painter - I suspect you are to loosing your touch - again terrific offering mister Pete.
You, sir, aren't just a machinist. You're an artist and it's a pleasure watching you work.
Thank you very much
There's nothing like going through a newly acquired machine. Disassembling, cleaning, reassembling and dialing it in. Becoming intimate with every nuance of the machine. I've only had that experience once with my 1961 Logan 6561H. I look forward to the next machine. Love this series Mr Peterson. Time to 'rescue' another one! Thank you.
Thanks
Nice mill for sure. Really looks like it has another lifetime in it.
Always nice to get them back clean and in good working order 👌
Mine seems small and easy compared to yours. That was quite a struggle for you getting that big pulley off the shaft
Thank you for posting this series. I have been looking for a small lathe for my shop but they are few and far between but watching your videos have been very informative as to what to do once I find one.
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A perfectionist you said. Well I am like that too but with cars and car engines. I applaud you for having that mind set.
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Excellent Video, Lyle; I love it when you get into tear downs and mechanics of the machines. As you pointed out, these are "living machines" and thus need regular care and feeding, and periodically need inspection and adjustment. Too many people seem to overlook that a little work on the front saves a great deal of work later on the back end. Many of the operations you did can be directly applied to other machines and machine types.
I'm glad you like it, and much of this applies to any milling machine
Always a great deal of satisfaction in completing a project like that. Congratulations on a job well done.
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Excellent move using the wooden dowel rods to assist in the reassembly! Some of us pay attention, Thanks
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Boy oh boy, dont you just love T-handled allens? They are a God-send! Love it!!
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Lyle, your calm and relaxing way of explain things always holds my attention. Thanks for another great watch !! Your friend here in southwest Michigan, Cliff
Thank you very much
my god i love watching machines being cleaned and reassembled!
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I like doing the actual work!!!
I really like watching, and I don’t even own any machinery equipment. Really like the thought processes.
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I've always found that taking a machine apart really helps to understand how it works and how to get the best from it.
You are quite correct
I love to see how these machines were designed, made, and how they work.
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Nice clean up. It seems like a very good mill with nice features. Looking forward to see it working. Take care
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VERY nice machine, ready for the next job. a solid tribute to american made tools.
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Good to see it all coming together! Looking forward to those first chips, as I'm sure you are. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
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The old Set Screw Mark! We Forget & We Live an Learn - Thanks Lyle
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Another great vid, really enjoy watching you taking the equipment apart showing what's there and how its done.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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just bought a Heald horz. Mill with A Tree Vert. Head what a nice kit. Doing the clean up and wiring ,almost ready for the maden voyage
That will be an awesome machine
@@mrpete222 yea looked around for a long time before deciding on this one about 4 years or so lol
Amazing! Your neighbor's grass must be a foot tall! Not once did I hear a mower! A very good video for all mills!
That's because I did this job at midnight
Nice little mill. A clean machine is a pleasure to use.
It is indeed
Mr. Pete I spent many years as a diesel mechanic working on farm equipment. I would sometimes have a large tractor split into three pieces plus the cab taken off. Something I use to do is put the bolts back in the same hole I took them out of. Then when I was cleaning or repairing one particular part, I could keep all of those pieces together more easily. I highly doubt I know anything that you don't already know, but for me it helped keeping track of all the bolts.
That is a good idea
Looks smooth now. Looking forward to seeing you putting it to use.
Yes thanks
handling heavy objects were dangerous, but you did great video.
thank you sir!
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FYI about 30 years ago I was put in the gray iron Dept of a large shop, a lot of people thought that was funny, not a good Dept, but what I remember is that all machines had a air hose on them, I now see what air does, I really like your vidios (David)
I bet that gray dust was everywhere
Great video. I can't believe you did all that disassembly, cleaning, oiling and reassembly in less then 24 minutes. Oh wait, perhaps it's the magic of Utube.
I am a fast worker
I continue to be impressed by your dear spouse's earnestness in placating the accumulation of quality machines,and tooling you collect,please do an exhaustive inventory, and monetary appraisal of all. Making note of any bequests to individuals and disposition of the bequeathing,upon your relinquishment of life on this mortal plane.May it be a far-far-away and distant!!
lol well worded my friend. Oddly enough, I am getting rid of one machine later today. I must reduce the inventory
How about updating the Will?
Thats a nice size mill for a home shop, congrats on the new addition
Thank you, yes it is
Sweet little milling machine that is for sure, congratulations Lyle, another keeper!
Nice clean-up, can't wait to see it chooch!
i dont know about other viewers, but I think Mr. Pete is enamored with his new Clausing...just saying.
Looks good, can't wait to see it in action.
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As someone without that level of gib experience, I've used dial indicators to assist by tightening them down, gently, until twisting the table won't move the indicator much, and it still slides with very little resistance. That really has helped me, since I don't do that kind of work more than once a decade or so.....
That is a very good idea I never thought of using an indicator
I use the indicator through out the process, much like you did at the end. I wouldn't have commented if I'd watched to the end. Thanks for the attaboy!!
Very nice mill. You and I have the same philosophy when it comes to cleaning up a piece of machinery, disassemble only what is necessary, clean and oil, and to heck with the repaint. I looked for a horizontal mill here in Houston, but they're rare as hen's teeth. The closest I came was a clapped out Van Norman No. 12 but it was too expensive. Thanks for the video!
I did not realize they were that rare
I´m jealous, it´s a cutie....can´t wait, to see the first chips.
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We would run a fine hone lightly across the contact surfaces to remove any high spots. We manufactured a wonderful small air vacuum that worked well to clean the machines. I often wish I had one today.
Good idea using a stone, my brother always does that
Wow. One of your best ever. Thank you for taking so much time in making these videos. How many cameras set ups did you have in this one? Everything flows in the editing and your explanations are crystal clear. You are truly a fine machinist and artist. And performer.
Thank you very much, I appreciate the comments about the camera work. Yes they were scores of camera set up's and lighting to
Good video Mr Pete and once again thank you for the education.
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Howdy again sir... I cleaned my machine about a month ago but just looking at you ... I want to do it again!!! 😀
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MrPete - just a quirky note. I work at the same company as Abom79 doing web development. I use the 201KDD bearing to test some of our functions (like "add to cart"). It was serendipitous to see you order that part.
Thank you for commenting. So then you work at motion?
mrpete222 yes
It is interesting watching Mr Pete,Steve Summers working on their mills at the same time...
Yes, I'm glad these two videos Series coincided. The big and the small of it
Yes, they both are doing a great job describing what and why and how they are doing everything.
Love this series I have the same mill it’s been sitting in my basement for a few years under a cover it might be time to dust it off thanks Mr.Pete.
Yes, dust it off
Let er rip George! Or sell it to someone who will use it. Momma wants to WORK!
Looking great Mr. Pete, thanks for sharing!
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Thank You for Sharing this Wonderful Job getting one tomorrow +
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Very nicely completed. Thank You. Mr Pete,
J8m
Thanks
MrPete up early, posting a video for us to enjoy!! Lordy, I love your humor!! 9:45 smooooth! Was the tip of the Eagle oil can made to work with the Gits Ball Oilers? What this country needs more of, men who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty!! We never doubt you! Acorn nuts always give a classy finished look to a machine. A very good series.
Thanks for watching. Yes the tip is made to fit in the oilers
Thank you for this clean up video. A man can never own too many tools. At first, I thought that you were going for your wife's dish towels, but, no you chose the guest sheets instead.
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On my way to work at the food bank this morning but I see you beat me up this morning mr. Pete. It’s nice to be retired!
Yes, I love retirement
mrpete222 so do I
Ready to go, good job.
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Nice instructions ,Mr.Pete, I would love to find a beauty like that!!
Keep looking and you will
It looks much better all cleaned up!
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Cool videos i always enjoy them.
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A clean up like that will help you sleep better at night.
Oddly enough, it does help me sleep better
I really enjoy these cleaning and restoring videos, although there is not much restoring needed on this nice machine. If I were doing this, the reassembly would take a long time as I would have to stop and watch the videos of how it came apart! (I'm about your age.) Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
Yes, my mind is diminishing as I type this
Use the guest sheets? Good thing RR visited before this project lol
Yes, or he would have slept on greasy sheets
It's RR in the SHOP. I'm sure he's quite familiar with greasy sheets. :)
Thanks for the instruction on gib adjustment...
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THANK YOU...for sharing.
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Good evening Mr. Pete, cannot say enough about how I enjoy your videos, I have finally got my clausing model #8540 ready to use. I have spent much time as you getting it cleaned and adjusted. My question is, It is without a vise what size would you recommend for me to use? I hope to see some projects in the near future using you machine, that you do, thanks again for all the excellent help that you give through your videos.
Thank you for watching. I think a 4 inch vise is the correct size
Oh no! Not the guest sheets, I personally go for the wife's tea towels👍
When I cleaned my lathe, I found oven cleaner to be far superior to engine degreaser. A little hard on the paint (flaky) but the factory paint held up fine. Rinse well.
Good idea, but it is hard on the hands
Thanks for doing this series. A week ago bought the sister to your machine. It looks like it had minimal use. Using this series, I cleaned up my machine, removing the table. Same issues, the machine was gummed up with old, hardened grease and many, many steel and plastic chips. As of today, painting as I go, I'm about read y to reassemble. If you have any accessories, or extra parts that came with your machine that you want to part with, I have greenbacks that I'd be happy to send you. Question . . . what is the correct description of the taper? NMBT30?
Congratulations, I think you bought a great machine. I think the taper is simply called a MM 30
Could you show how you install the new bearing? I have a Clausing 8530 and I want to see if I installed my bearing correctly. Great video! Thanks
Sorry, too late it's already on
So nice without any annoying music
Your comment pleases me immensely. I'm glad that you noticed that. And I'm not sure why some people put it in
Nice cleaning, do you do car's also? Great work and as always enjoy the detail that you put forth in your work.
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More good information.
Almost as if you knew what you were doing!
Thanks.
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Mr. Pete, have you ever seen a Bridgeport mill that had hydraulic motors that moved the table (both X and Y) and the knee? And also with ticker tape that you could program to run the mill. I found one for sale but it scared me because I never saw anything like it. Looks to me like it is one of the first cnc mills before there was real computers. It had a huge cabinet that housed the cnc mechanism. It was really wild looking!!!
Yes, we had one of those at the junior college in 1969. Those are stepper motors on the ends. Do not buy this
Thanks Mr. Pete! I made a good decision for once. I left it sitting. But it intrigued me to no end. I had all kinds of thoughts on how I could convert it over to digital and have a one of a kind museum piece...
Great job and video - thanks.
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Thanks Mr Pete. We used to always clean and oil all machines dayly & Fridays extra clean and oil. Did your students muck up with oil cans?
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Mr. Pete; When you are tightening the gibs, how do you keep it square, and moving straight? If you have the left ones tighter then the right, wouldn't that tend to move at a slight angle? Not sure , just asking. That is a nice looking machine. Looking forward to seeing it in use. Have fun!!!!!! Michael
Probably not. Remember the Gib is forcing the table against the other dovetail
Cleaning and oiling is good for the machine and also good for the soul (maybe not this sole).
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Thanks for sharing sir...
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That’s a neat mill. Man it was dirty
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What sort of Chevy do you have. Here in the U.K. I’m restoring a 1953 Chevy 3600 truck. I look forward to seeing the machine in action. I have a modern Chinese mill with a VFD that I’m really happy with and a Boxford lathe. I also have a shaper I keep at work as I don’t have room or three phase at home. Great video thanks for sharing. Regards Chris
Why not never wear all screws ??
john suckoe What ?
Never sieze all screws.
I do not have a Chevy now. I wants had a 1954 Bel Air
mrpete222 Thanks Mr Pete a friend has one of those here in the UK.
Professor, would those be the same sheets Randy Richard slept on? Your mill may grow a mustache from DNA transfer!!
I believe they are
You do nice work. Good video.
Thanks mike
Very nice machine, it begs for a vertical head attachment.
I'm not sure they make one
It is a good exercise to follow if your machine is quite old and there are no reference manuals to tell you where all of your lubrication points are. Unfortunately, the hidden points you find are likely the same one's that the previous operator missed over a decade or three.
Very true
Mr Pete I have an atlas lathe 1938, former (travelers) lathe ! Looking for a milling attachment!!
EBay is your only chance
Nice!
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so cast iron is very brittle.........it is and i have always wondered why they make machines out of it ? is it because its easier to machine and is heavier than normal steel ? please answer this question for me because inquiring minds want to know ..............lol
It is easy to cast and machine was wonderfully. But cast iron has one amazing future, it dampens vibration
i didn't really think about the vibration part............. thanks for answering the question.............
I'm a bit confused here. Was that way oil that you used to lubricated the saddle?
The way oil i know has a thicker consistency, almost like chain saw oil.
Did i miss something here?
I did not use the way oil. I only suggested, that you can use it if you want
How do machines get so dirty?
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howdy Mr Pete
Howdy
Better safe then sorry I say
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I suspect (only guessing) that by simply pulling out the gib you can lift the saddle off without removing the brass nut.
You did not try that...
Maybe, I forgot
Where the longhorn cattle feed
On the lowly gypsum weed…
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I would love to get my hands dirty on something like that and without gloves like you, the fingers tell you a lot but not so much through gloves.
I hate gloves
MrPete, I have some questions I'd like to ask. Can you provide an email? I've been searching but cannot find out. thank you
find email in this video
back to school special tubalcain
OMG and again at 7.25 - pointed gibs "too loose" and no mention of the french midget painter.
I was afraid I was beating that gag to death.
Ok reason accepted maybe I should give it a rest as well my kids are starting to throw things at me when I do the gag.
A lot of silent moments in this one Mr Pete
Laryngitis
too loose - Lautrec
Yup, I said it twice (for him) during this episode! He is definitely one of a kind!
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One of a kind in a REALLY good way!! Carpe Diem my friend!
Me too! I was waiting..
Mother will be mad if clean your hands kitchen sink
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I am disappointed sir - at 3.15 - you said "to loosen" and not a single mention of the short legged french impressionist painter - I suspect you are to loosing your touch - again terrific offering mister Pete.