WOW bad accident. 2 years in a row. Good upload guys! Thanks for putting this up! Some of us in Canada have a hard time getting the races on line or TV. 👍💖 Paul Tracy is a really good announcer!!
If Indycar is 'on the fence' about keeping Pocono on the schedule, then why should Pocono invest millions in building higher walls that other series don't need. Gotta build better relationships with the racetracks.
@@chrisautosport Yea... it will take a profound effort to pull that off... but I just mean seeing Dixon win it again would be boring. I guess Newgarden winning it is the most boring outcome at this point.
After all the turmoil from yesterday, at least there are some reason in all this, the three most important drivers of the series (Power, Dixon, and Pagenaud) are agree that the series needs to keep the track in the schedule, is great to know that such a great champions are making a great opinion in terms that it's not the track's fault, what happen to Justin Wilson and Robert Wickens could happen in other tracks too. There are some people insist that Pocono is too wide and fast and dangerous, so they have to drop from the calendar, but if is for that, then, what are they doing at Indianapolis, sorry for what I'm going to say, but sometimes, I feel that one part of the fans of IndyCar, specially in the US are really a bunch of cry babies, first they are not happy with some venues, with some drivers and even with the future of the series, and now they want to see out of the calendar a track who was built for IndyCar, and then the same people complains of the lack of ovals in the schedule, who understand this people?
I agree, but they really need to have a better plan for repairing the fence. I'm no expert, but it doesn't look like zip tying scrap pieces of fencing together is safe enough. If a 2-3 hour red flag is needed to repair it properly then so be it.
@@Thumbsupurbum I was thinking the same, probably changed the fence for other more stronger, with better materials, and I hope if Pocono stays, the track owners and the people of IndyCar can work together with a solution, everything is possible.
Yea, they always want to blame Sato, but in reality Rossi has a tendency to muscle his way around the track. Was obvious right away that Sato had gone ahead of Rossi and Rossi clipped his back tire. Ultimately the guy you can probably blame the most is Hunter-Reay, for squeezing Rossi up the track.
It was very close. But to me, the crucial angle is at 4:04. Rossi moves up slightly, but it's clear Sato moves down more. Watch his roll hoop in relation to Dixons.
To me that looks like Sato coming down as a result of contact, not before. From what I can make out from each driver's onboard and using the track as a point of reference (including Sato's, he posted it to twitter), Hunter-Reay and Rossi both moved up (thinking they were clear.) Sato's 3-wide dive results in contact, but that looked clear when he committed. He was also keeping to the main racing line (see. Dixon, the rest of the field) while Hunter-Reay went low to try to pass Rossi (during which he was also moving back up to try to stay in the draft.) Basically: "Racing incident." I think all three contributed to the accident.
it was not Sato, Rossi Turned up into him. Watch again and again. watch the wheel inputs. watch the lines (Not the skid mark lines. the track lines) 4:33 if you pause then use the " , " or " . " keys on your keyboard you can frame by frame rewind or advance. Matthew C 1 hour ago To me that looks like Sato coming down as a result of contact, 100 thumbs up for that.
I don't think it is, if you watch the onboard footage from Rossi at 4:33 you'll see Sato come along the right side and go across the front of his car. Rossi was travelling virtually in a straight line I don't see him move left, I think Sato had a run and was trying to get ahead so he could either get the slipstream on or pass Dixon but didn't realise the gap wasn't there
Bad accidents can hapen on all of the tracks,Wilsons death was the freakiest i've ever seen and no,don't ditch Pocono,the track is demanding and unusual and that's why it SHOULD stay in the calendar. If youre gonna remove a track because it's fast,then you can do it with Daytona or Indianapolis or Talladega,so,leave it man,it's producing good racing.
Vladimir Zimonja Wilson’s crash was unfortunate. That was just a freak accident. Doesn’t mean they should ditch the track. It’s not the track it’s the driving
Not sure if Sato is 100% at fault, but it's hard to give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who hit his crew in the pit lane at Texas over Rossi who never seems to crash...
@@DrColoso Oh that's good ^^ I just came over from Formula 1 this season and there were multiple crashes that really got me worried. But if they implemented this safety feature already, then I'm glad :)
@@RockMetal120 you can watch the design of the car next year, in pictures of the different motorsports sites, by the way, the design is develop by red bull advance technology.
Sato needs a reprimand. He said he misjudged it, but playin' it that close at quadruple the speed limit is just pure stupidity. He could've killed a guy with them antics. I really like the guy, both as a person and a driver. I also think he is one of the best drivers in IndyCar right now. But a move like that requires disciplinary action. Edit: There's another video which shows proof very much to the contrary. If anything, based on this, Sato looks to be an innocent bystander just trying to make a pass. I still think he shouldn't have held Rossi quite so tight, but I was wrong in blaming him so much. Video in question: th-cam.com/video/MmFco6896kY/w-d-xo.html
it was not Sato, Rossi Turned up into him. Watch again and again. watch the wheel inputs. watch the lines (Not the skid mark lines. the track lines) 4:33 if you pause then use the " , " or " . " keys on your keyboard you can frame by frame rewind or advance.
@@brycering5989 Huh, fair point. Sato still had enough room up high to avoid a situation like this. He likely forgot about the extra 1.5 ft of track to his right in the quest for the slipstream, holding Rossi narrow when he was already getting up close and personal with RHR. I still think Sato is most to blame here, but I should now probably say that yeah, Rossi did come up slightly, and at the end of the day the three of 'em were fighting tooth and nail for Dixon's slipstream. But whether he tried to close out the move on Rossi and misjudged it, or he simply held an increasingly twitchy Rossi tight against Hunter-Reay, it was his lack of awareness that played the most crucial part in causing this accident. He either held a nervous Rossi in a tight spot next to Hunter-Reay when there was extra space available while fighting for the tow, or he came down slightly and caught Rossi, or both. No matter what scenario it is, Sato takes most of the blame. I will say that, in hindsight, Rossi should've backed out, and had no reason to move the steering wheel even slightly in a situation that sketchy. H*ck, he shouldn't even be letting himself stay 3 wide with these dudes with nothing to lose. He may be a fighter, but he has a championship to think about. Nice catch, it was a slight but kinda stupid move of the wheel (or maybe RHR twitched and Rossi got nervous) that means Rossi takes a good portion of the blame himself.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 Sato does come down a little going for the slipstream, I can't get over how much Dixon pushed Rossi then Hunter pushed Rossi and then Sato tried but now he has nowhere to get pushed to.. You just know Dixon was playing them. jumping slipstream from one to the other to keep it tight between them (Done that myself on iRacing) I know what it's like to have a bad start and get jumped like that, took me ages to learn to back out when that happens, but this is IRL and no resets, but Rossi did get off the gas, you can see it just before the contact. Going to put this down to Dixon driving in his mirrors with the slipstream ;)
It is insane that you race on this track, Wickens still can't walk after last year's crash and it was incredibly lucky that no one was hurt, maimed or killed in this one.
Open wheel superspeedway racing is indeed insane, but Wickens as any other driver should've known the risk. He unfortunately had to pay a hefty price, but to now come out and tweet bullshit shows that his risk assessment was way off coming from what might be the safest racing series in the world which is the DTM (zero fatal accidents in it's history). I think if he ever gets back into racing he should not chose Indycar, because it just isn't for him.
It sounds crazy but I think it’s just a matter of time before racing is a thing of the past. It seems like more and more people want to nerf the entire planet. With communication around the world all but instantaneous, we’ve become a society that operates completely by knee jerk reaction- based often only on conjecture. If a group of guys wants to get into cars and go 200+ mph then who is anyone else to say they can’t? It’ll either be the environmental alarmists or the safety alarmists but, either way, I can see a time where outrage culture sinks it’s misinformed teeth into the last bastion of gladiators(I’m looking at you too, football).
But isnt the S5000 Motor a bit weak? I consider IndyCar to be one of the biggest and most high end Race Series of the world. 560hp is a bit weak. And yes you could supercharge that engine and get a 1000hp out of it, but I dont think, Honda and Chevy want to promote engines percived as old and innefficient by the public. IndyCar badly needs more power. I would love to see them running a good old V8, but the only way to get 900HP and keep the sport growing, is to use 2,4L V6 Twinturbos with KERS. And lets be honest, thats not that bad.
So Indy car drivers who drive like idiots that cause these insane wrecks are blaming...cough cough POCONO???? If I was the owner of the Pocono Speedway I’d tell the head of Indy Car take your bullshit series & get outta here. You show up every year with less than 23 cars, you guys completely drive like lunatics on the OPENING LAP of a 500 mile race, nearly kill each other and then blame the track?????? Uh ok, goodbye Indy Car, it’s no wonder why you have failed not only at Pocono, but Michigan, Fontana, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Chicagoland, New Hampshire, etc etc.
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WOW bad accident. 2 years in a row. Good upload guys! Thanks for putting this up! Some of us in Canada have a hard time getting the races on line or TV. 👍💖 Paul Tracy is a really good announcer!!
If Indycar is 'on the fence' about keeping Pocono on the schedule, then why should Pocono invest millions in building higher walls that other series don't need. Gotta build better relationships with the racetracks.
This was such a fun event to attend. Even with the rain coming.
Sure going to miss it, hope it comes back in 2021.
Bring back Michigan, Fontana, Chicagoland, Kansas & homestead please oval tracks makes this series what it is.
It would be awesome if Dixon can win another championship to make it a record
I can't imagine a more boring conclusion to this season...
@@cnelsonlv999 Boring? That would be one incredible comeback! He has to pass three stout championship contenders in only three races.
@@chrisautosport Yea... it will take a profound effort to pull that off... but I just mean seeing Dixon win it again would be boring. I guess Newgarden winning it is the most boring outcome at this point.
He wont, he’s garbage
After all the turmoil from yesterday, at least there are some reason in all this, the three most important drivers of the series (Power, Dixon, and Pagenaud) are agree that the series needs to keep the track in the schedule, is great to know that such a great champions are making a great opinion in terms that it's not the track's fault, what happen to Justin Wilson and Robert Wickens could happen in other tracks too. There are some people insist that Pocono is too wide and fast and dangerous, so they have to drop from the calendar, but if is for that, then, what are they doing at Indianapolis, sorry for what I'm going to say, but sometimes, I feel that one part of the fans of IndyCar, specially in the US are really a bunch of cry babies, first they are not happy with some venues, with some drivers and even with the future of the series, and now they want to see out of the calendar a track who was built for IndyCar, and then the same people complains of the lack of ovals in the schedule, who understand this people?
I agree, but they really need to have a better plan for repairing the fence. I'm no expert, but it doesn't look like zip tying scrap pieces of fencing together is safe enough. If a 2-3 hour red flag is needed to repair it properly then so be it.
@@Thumbsupurbum I was thinking the same, probably changed the fence for other more stronger, with better materials, and I hope if Pocono stays, the track owners and the people of IndyCar can work together with a solution, everything is possible.
Imagine an IndyCar race at Daytona under the lights...
Keep the track but maybe build wall higher
Sato was only going straight to pass Rossi. He didn’t turn in. You'll see if you watch Sato 's onboard video. Just unfortunate.
Exactly
Yeah it looks like Rossi turned up on him.
They both squeezed Rossi, but Sato had huge run and plenty of room on the outside he could've used.
Yea, they always want to blame Sato, but in reality Rossi has a tendency to muscle his way around the track. Was obvious right away that Sato had gone ahead of Rossi and Rossi clipped his back tire. Ultimately the guy you can probably blame the most is Hunter-Reay, for squeezing Rossi up the track.
I’m so excited for Indycar 2020
Had to look up the word "clag" in the Urban Dictionary - Paul Tracy used at 10:43.
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Wow... what an anti-climactic way to end what looked like it was going to be a great race!
Before you say it's Sato's fault. You need to see his onboard
It was very close. But to me, the crucial angle is at 4:04. Rossi moves up slightly, but it's clear Sato moves down more. Watch his roll hoop in relation to Dixons.
To me that looks like Sato coming down as a result of contact, not before. From what I can make out from each driver's onboard and using the track as a point of reference (including Sato's, he posted it to twitter), Hunter-Reay and Rossi both moved up (thinking they were clear.) Sato's 3-wide dive results in contact, but that looked clear when he committed. He was also keeping to the main racing line (see. Dixon, the rest of the field) while Hunter-Reay went low to try to pass Rossi (during which he was also moving back up to try to stay in the draft.)
Basically: "Racing incident." I think all three contributed to the accident.
it was not Sato, Rossi Turned up into him. Watch again and again. watch the wheel inputs. watch the lines (Not the skid mark lines. the track lines)
4:33 if you pause then use the " , " or " . " keys on your keyboard you can frame by frame rewind or advance.
Matthew C
1 hour ago
To me that looks like Sato coming down as a result of contact,
100 thumbs up for that.
@@tylercoogan2698 at 4:04 Sato is already turned after Rossi hit him.
Nope< I stand corrected.
The crash may have been Rossi’s fault
I don't think it is, if you watch the onboard footage from Rossi at 4:33 you'll see Sato come along the right side and go across the front of his car. Rossi was travelling virtually in a straight line I don't see him move left, I think Sato had a run and was trying to get ahead so he could either get the slipstream on or pass Dixon but didn't realise the gap wasn't there
NO
dont get rid of pocono because of a crash caused on a straight. feel bad for rossi though
You will only change your opinion when someone dies will you...
@@GekkonidaeKing someone has already died at Pocono. Justin Wilson in 2015
@@ZIGAG1999 When a second driver dies, i know he died
@@ZIGAG1999 wow he could have died at any circuit in the world, that had nothing to do with Pocono. Thats not an argument
I was at this race
dinoco all mine
*NASCAR tire activator* 😂
Keep Pocono!
No Pocono race track is too Dangerous
crazyrossi
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We should make this the top comment
Bad accidents can hapen on all of the tracks,Wilsons death was the freakiest i've ever seen and no,don't ditch Pocono,the track is demanding and unusual and that's why it SHOULD stay in the calendar. If youre gonna remove a track because it's fast,then you can do it with Daytona or Indianapolis or Talladega,so,leave it man,it's producing good racing.
Vladimir Zimonja Wilson’s crash was unfortunate. That was just a freak accident. Doesn’t mean they should ditch the track. It’s not the track it’s the driving
Not sure if Sato is 100% at fault, but it's hard to give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who hit his crew in the pit lane at Texas over Rossi who never seems to crash...
0:33 0:46
Indycar has become a sleeper series of late.
Hey IndyCar, if you do any races this year, cancel Pocono and do Long Beach, cut your losses!
I don't wanna be the guy, but isn't it time for Halos sooner rather than later?
Next year they will introduce the aeroscreen, so they will have more protection specially in the front.
@@DrColoso Oh that's good ^^ I just came over from Formula 1 this season and there were multiple crashes that really got me worried. But if they implemented this safety feature already, then I'm glad :)
@@RockMetal120 you can watch the design of the car next year, in pictures of the different motorsports sites, by the way, the design is develop by red bull advance technology.
yeah or lets just stay at home knitting
Sato needs a reprimand. He said he misjudged it, but playin' it that close at quadruple the speed limit is just pure stupidity. He could've killed a guy with them antics.
I really like the guy, both as a person and a driver. I also think he is one of the best drivers in IndyCar right now. But a move like that requires disciplinary action.
Edit: There's another video which shows proof very much to the contrary. If anything, based on this, Sato looks to be an innocent bystander just trying to make a pass. I still think he shouldn't have held Rossi quite so tight, but I was wrong in blaming him so much.
Video in question: th-cam.com/video/MmFco6896kY/w-d-xo.html
it was not Sato, Rossi Turned up into him. Watch again and again. watch the wheel inputs. watch the lines (Not the skid mark lines. the track lines)
4:33 if you pause then use the " , " or " . " keys on your keyboard you can frame by frame rewind or advance.
Mitchell-Wallis Force it was a racing incident. Unfortunately ovals make racing incidents a lot more dangerous.
@@brycering5989 Huh, fair point. Sato still had enough room up high to avoid a situation like this. He likely forgot about the extra 1.5 ft of track to his right in the quest for the slipstream, holding Rossi narrow when he was already getting up close and personal with RHR.
I still think Sato is most to blame here, but I should now probably say that yeah, Rossi did come up slightly, and at the end of the day the three of 'em were fighting tooth and nail for Dixon's slipstream. But whether he tried to close out the move on Rossi and misjudged it, or he simply held an increasingly twitchy Rossi tight against Hunter-Reay, it was his lack of awareness that played the most crucial part in causing this accident.
He either held a nervous Rossi in a tight spot next to Hunter-Reay when there was extra space available while fighting for the tow, or he came down slightly and caught Rossi, or both. No matter what scenario it is, Sato takes most of the blame. I will say that, in hindsight, Rossi should've backed out, and had no reason to move the steering wheel even slightly in a situation that sketchy. H*ck, he shouldn't even be letting himself stay 3 wide with these dudes with nothing to lose. He may be a fighter, but he has a championship to think about. Nice catch, it was a slight but kinda stupid move of the wheel (or maybe RHR twitched and Rossi got nervous) that means Rossi takes a good portion of the blame himself.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 Sato does come down a little going for the slipstream, I can't get over how much Dixon pushed Rossi then Hunter pushed Rossi and then Sato tried but now he has nowhere to get pushed to.. You just know Dixon was playing them. jumping slipstream from one to the other to keep it tight between them (Done that myself on iRacing) I know what it's like to have a bad start and get jumped like that, took me ages to learn to back out when that happens, but this is IRL and no resets, but Rossi did get off the gas, you can see it just before the contact. Going to put this down to Dixon driving in his mirrors with the slipstream ;)
Sato was going straight... Rossi got squeezed up into him and clipped his back tire. Not Sato's fault...
IndyCar, can you please get rid of the rule where cars can't be worked on during a red flag
NASCAR has the exact same rule. It's illegal to work on your car on the Red Flag and you'll go to the back.
In Indycar they put you several laps down to make it harder for you to get back to the front. Not sure if NASCAR follows that part.
It is insane that you race on this track, Wickens still can't walk after last year's crash and it was incredibly lucky that no one was hurt, maimed or killed in this one.
They raced here for years without big issues while Indy was a widowmaker
Open wheel superspeedway racing is indeed insane, but Wickens as any other driver should've known the risk. He unfortunately had to pay a hefty price, but to now come out and tweet bullshit shows that his risk assessment was way off coming from what might be the safest racing series in the world which is the DTM (zero fatal accidents in it's history). I think if he ever gets back into racing he should not chose Indycar, because it just isn't for him.
I blame Sato for it going three wide
It sounds crazy but I think it’s just a matter of time before racing is a thing of the past. It seems like more and more people want to nerf the entire planet. With communication around the world all but instantaneous, we’ve become a society that operates completely by knee jerk reaction- based often only on conjecture. If a group of guys wants to get into cars and go 200+ mph then who is anyone else to say they can’t? It’ll either be the environmental alarmists or the safety alarmists but, either way, I can see a time where outrage culture sinks it’s misinformed teeth into the last bastion of gladiators(I’m looking at you too, football).
S5000.....that's all that needs to be said. Put that motor in an Indycar and the interest will destroy F1.
But isnt the S5000 Motor a bit weak? I consider IndyCar to be one of the biggest and most high end Race Series of the world. 560hp is a bit weak. And yes you could supercharge that engine and get a 1000hp out of it, but I dont think, Honda and Chevy want to promote engines percived as old and innefficient by the public.
IndyCar badly needs more power. I would love to see them running a good old V8, but the only way to get 900HP and keep the sport growing, is to use 2,4L V6 Twinturbos with KERS. And lets be honest, thats not that bad.
Point is it would be nice if IndyCar and/or F1 went back to a V8, naturally or turbo with the appropriate HP.
@@curly437 Yeah thats true. But its not gonna happen.
shouldn't have stripped the track from the schedule, I'd rather see a Pocono road course...
英語ができませんから日本語で今回の琢磨のincidentは琢磨だけが悪いわけではないです。
ちゃんとハンターレイの動き、ロッシの動きもみて、ペナルティーの判断をしてください！
なんでもアメリカ人ファーストはいけない！
Okay, joke's over. Time for Sato to retire.
Suspend Takmakazi Sato!
So Indy car drivers who drive like idiots that cause these insane wrecks are blaming...cough cough POCONO???? If I was the owner of the Pocono Speedway I’d tell the head of Indy Car take your bullshit series & get outta here. You show up every year with less than 23 cars, you guys completely drive like lunatics on the OPENING LAP of a 500 mile race, nearly kill each other and then blame the track?????? Uh ok, goodbye Indy Car, it’s no wonder why you have failed not only at Pocono, but Michigan, Fontana, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Chicagoland, New Hampshire, etc etc.
meanwhile, pocono is gonna lose a nascar date because they think your track is boring. lol, works both ways, weirdo!
You’re 2 years late & you’re calling me a weirdo???? OK WEIRDO!!!!