Great video, and very informative, I always assumed that pastiche was just rip off, so thankfully I can use it in the correct way now. I think my favourite example of pastiche is Going Out by Supergrass, who are very obviously pastiching Revolver era Beatles, but it's no surprise a britpop band is imitating The Beatles, especially considering Oasis made a whole career of it. Could the spoken word outro to Thriller be a pastiche of Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds? It feels more similar to Richard Burton's narration than anything else. Also I just want to say how happy I am to see the growth of this channel, the first video of yours I saw was about why The Times They Are A-Changing is a great song, and each video is consistently better than the last!
Thanks for watching! Glad to have cleared that misunderstanding then haha. I always thought that Oasis actually sounded as much (or more) like Slade and T Rex as they did they Beatles. They just looked more like the Beatles, and so that's usually the go-to comparison. But yeah, it's all in there. It's a good question, but I doubt that War of the Worlds had much of an influence on Thriller - the album just wasn't very big at all in the US, so I'm not sure if MJ would even have heard it. And if he had, it wouldn't have been a reference most of the US audience would understand. I think it's more just that both are tuning into a similarly campy sort of narration Thanks so much! It's taken a lot of work to get it where it is, and hopefully it will continue to grow :)
Great video; i agree now that pastiche is a mostly positive thing in music, its also kind of unavoidable in a way. Everything a person hears/sees influences what they create, so in my opinion it’d be kind of disingenuous to claim a completely "original" composition that takes no notes from the work of others. I think paul mccartneys beatles era pastiches (im down, lady madonna) of specific artists are pretty good, but theyre definitely in a gray area between pastiche and imitation. Im glad the greatest band ever [the shaggs] got some well deserved recognition in this video I came across your channel like two days ago from the Til I Die video and i have to say im a fan! I’d love to see more beach boys theory type content in the future, but all your videos are pretty interesting and im excited to watch your channel grow!
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoy my videos, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Got loads of ideas for upcoming videos, so hopefully you'll continue to like my content. And yeah, pastiche is just such a huge topic, and covers so much that it's almost unavoidable.
Don't Touch Me There by The Tubes comes to mind, which is - excuse me for the overused phrase - awesome. Talking about Beatles basslines: Start by The Jam, another good one. All of Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick, more enjoyable than some prog concept album master pieces.
I thought 'pastiche' was a french pastry !? but seriously, consider Kate Bush. wonderfully, wildly original. as well as being wholly steeped in pastiche.
Great video, and very informative, I always assumed that pastiche was just rip off, so thankfully I can use it in the correct way now.
I think my favourite example of pastiche is Going Out by Supergrass, who are very obviously pastiching Revolver era Beatles, but it's no surprise a britpop band is imitating The Beatles, especially considering Oasis made a whole career of it.
Could the spoken word outro to Thriller be a pastiche of Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds? It feels more similar to Richard Burton's narration than anything else.
Also I just want to say how happy I am to see the growth of this channel, the first video of yours I saw was about why The Times They Are A-Changing is a great song, and each video is consistently better than the last!
Thanks for watching! Glad to have cleared that misunderstanding then haha.
I always thought that Oasis actually sounded as much (or more) like Slade and T Rex as they did they Beatles. They just looked more like the Beatles, and so that's usually the go-to comparison. But yeah, it's all in there.
It's a good question, but I doubt that War of the Worlds had much of an influence on Thriller - the album just wasn't very big at all in the US, so I'm not sure if MJ would even have heard it. And if he had, it wouldn't have been a reference most of the US audience would understand. I think it's more just that both are tuning into a similarly campy sort of narration
Thanks so much! It's taken a lot of work to get it where it is, and hopefully it will continue to grow :)
Great video; i agree now that pastiche is a mostly positive thing in music, its also kind of unavoidable in a way. Everything a person hears/sees influences what they create, so in my opinion it’d be kind of disingenuous to claim a completely "original" composition that takes no notes from the work of others.
I think paul mccartneys beatles era pastiches (im down, lady madonna) of specific artists are pretty good, but theyre definitely in a gray area between pastiche and imitation.
Im glad the greatest band ever [the shaggs] got some well deserved recognition in this video
I came across your channel like two days ago from the Til I Die video and i have to say im a fan! I’d love to see more beach boys theory type content in the future, but all your videos are pretty interesting and im excited to watch your channel grow!
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoy my videos, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Got loads of ideas for upcoming videos, so hopefully you'll continue to like my content.
And yeah, pastiche is just such a huge topic, and covers so much that it's almost unavoidable.
Don't Touch Me There by The Tubes comes to mind, which is - excuse me for the overused phrase - awesome.
Talking about Beatles basslines: Start by The Jam, another good one.
All of Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick, more enjoyable than some prog concept album master pieces.
I'd not heard 'Don't Touch Me There' - it's great! Could be a Meat Loaf tune in another life
And I agree on Thick as a Brick. Thanks for watching :)
I thought 'pastiche' was a french pastry !? but seriously, consider Kate Bush. wonderfully, wildly original. as well as being wholly steeped in pastiche.
It’s arguable that no music exists that ISN’T pastiche.
Music that is 100% original is better known as noise.
tranquility base slander, come on man use a Q-Tip
Took your advice and used a Q-tip - sounds even worse now!