Thanks Ryan for sharing such useful information, it really helps to look at the formulas differently. I also wanted to say that you are a very pleasant conversationalist and your voice is calming! ) I appreciate everything you do 🙌
Thank you for sharing your process! I've just started dabbling in perfumery, this video and your channel in general has been very helpful. Thanks Ryan!
This was an amazing video Ryan. I've learned most of this over the last 12 months but you did, as always educate me on a few things. Keep up the videos!!!!!
One thing that was not mentioned is when Ryan knocks everything down to 10% in the formula, it allows you to do 10x number of trials versus working with the materials neat. This saves you a tonne of money, especially on some of those very expensive naturals. This is how I work as well. The one draw back to this is you have to make 4 different dilutions of the same material - 100%, 10%, 1% and 0.1% dilutions. That's a lot of bottles, which means a lot of storage. If you have 500 aromachemicals, you could end up with 2000 bottles around these dilutions.
There are some other issues with this in my opinion. You will not always be able to evaluate a perfume's performance at 10%, the difference between EdT, Cologne and Perfume strengths can be staggering.
I made a, what i believe is a nice google sheets spreadsheet i could share. It has a second sheet for materials and notes that is linked to formula page. Just need to make a copy each time you make a formula so you will always have the master copy. Also any new materials need to be added on the master. Just let me know if you're interested. I shared with Sam Macer's class I'm currently in.
Question: When you knocked it down to 8 grams total formula at the end of the video, some of the materials were less than a single pippette drop (0.015g) in weight. E.g. cornmint was 0.008g. How do you weigh out such a small amount there? Do you go down a dilution level? So if its 0.008g at 10%, you go down to 1% dilution so you can add 0.080g (roughly five drops)?
Yeah just adjust your dilutions. Just like the patchouli on this video. Dou you want pouring 2500 patchouli on 10%? I think it a lot easier to pour it neat 250g. Sam macer already mention it too. Shout out to him for make this great app.
I can often times get a pipette delivery of around 0.008g. I push most of the juice out of the pipette then touch it to the edge of the beaker/bottle and I can get that 1/2 drop. But it is hit or miss. I know that making a 1% dilution would be the best way, but I’ll usually avoid doing so unless I run into 3 formulas requiring me to do so. I’m slowly but surely becoming more diligent about doing things “correctly” rather than simply doing my best (but taking a shortcut).
Question for you about using materials in formula. Let's say you have a formula that calls for 1g of Ambroxan and you are using a 10% dilution of the material. Would you be adding 1g of your 10% dilution, or compensating for the dilution to meet the 1g of Ambroxan in the formula? I assume that the formula could be scaled to accommodate even if you are using a mixture of dilution and neat materials.
If I were to add 1g of my 10% dilution, then I would make sure that all of my materials are at 10%. Alternatively, I would adjust the amount added to compensate for the level of dilution such that the end amount added would be correct. In this case, if I need 1g of Ambrox, then I would either add 1g neat, 10g at 10%, 100g at 1%, etc.
Hi Ryan, Quick question: how different is 'different'? We can find formulas from Google Patent. If I replace only one material, but keep the remaining materials the same, would that be considered different? Technically, it is different but still not sure
Sometimes that one material can make all the difference. Sometimes if you overdose one material, it can make all the difference. What's important to me is whether you can tell that there is a difference. How does that difference change the story, or change the experience? It's amazing how you can get a very different fragrance using all the same materials in slightly different amounts, but then you can get a very similar fragrance using completely different materials. Smell is a weird thing.
This is really hit or miss. I'd say each company has some great formulas that get really close, and other formulas that miss the mark. Creative-Formulas and Labtorium are two that I've used. I think FragranceCode and Perfumer Archive are two other suppliers, but I don't have much experience with either of them.
Listen....I found your channel today and I'm loving your videos!!!! THE REFERENCING, THE TRANSPARENCY!
I’m glad you found it!
This channel is very helpful
Thanks Mr Rayan ❤
Thanks Ryan for sharing such useful information, it really helps to look at the formulas differently. I also wanted to say that you are a very pleasant conversationalist and your voice is calming! ) I appreciate everything you do 🙌
Thank you!
This is so helpful Ryan! Thank you so much! I will be going more in depth with formulair formulas!
Thank you so much for your full help l am very happy with your program 😊
Thank you for sharing your process! I've just started dabbling in perfumery, this video and your channel in general has been very helpful. Thanks Ryan!
You are so welcome!
This was an amazing video Ryan. I've learned most of this over the last 12 months but you did, as always educate me on a few things. Keep up the videos!!!!!
Mate, you are a champion. This is an incredible video.
Thank you for watching!
Thanks Ryan! That really helped me to understand Formulair better.
In fact, this was wonderful. I benefited a lot from it, and I wish you more progress. You are awesome 👍
One thing that was not mentioned is when Ryan knocks everything down to 10% in the formula, it allows you to do 10x number of trials versus working with the materials neat. This saves you a tonne of money, especially on some of those very expensive naturals.
This is how I work as well. The one draw back to this is you have to make 4 different dilutions of the same material - 100%, 10%, 1% and 0.1% dilutions. That's a lot of bottles, which means a lot of storage. If you have 500 aromachemicals, you could end up with 2000 bottles around these dilutions.
There are some other issues with this in my opinion. You will not always be able to evaluate a perfume's performance at 10%, the difference between EdT, Cologne and Perfume strengths can be staggering.
I made a, what i believe is a nice google sheets spreadsheet i could share. It has a second sheet for materials and notes that is linked to formula page. Just need to make a copy each time you make a formula so you will always have the master copy. Also any new materials need to be added on the master. Just let me know if you're interested. I shared with Sam Macer's class I'm currently in.
I would be interested in seeing this!
Woww...an american using metric. :)))))))
Question: When you knocked it down to 8 grams total formula at the end of the video, some of the materials were less than a single pippette drop (0.015g) in weight. E.g. cornmint was 0.008g. How do you weigh out such a small amount there? Do you go down a dilution level? So if its 0.008g at 10%, you go down to 1% dilution so you can add 0.080g (roughly five drops)?
Yeah just adjust your dilutions. Just like the patchouli on this video. Dou you want pouring 2500 patchouli on 10%? I think it a lot easier to pour it neat 250g. Sam macer already mention it too. Shout out to him for make this great app.
I can often times get a pipette delivery of around 0.008g. I push most of the juice out of the pipette then touch it to the edge of the beaker/bottle and I can get that 1/2 drop. But it is hit or miss. I know that making a 1% dilution would be the best way, but I’ll usually avoid doing so unless I run into 3 formulas requiring me to do so. I’m slowly but surely becoming more diligent about doing things “correctly” rather than simply doing my best (but taking a shortcut).
Fleur du male !!! Since you said that you have one like that, im waiting for the viseo !
Thanks for this ! Gonna use it a loooot
It's not a formula I can share. If I can find a publicly available one floating around, I'll share it :-)
@@RyanParfums 💔
Formulair has made it very easy for me too :)
Brother apart from TH-cam, are you into just hobby or perfume business ?
I'm a portfolio manager by day, perfumer by night. I'm too entrepreneurial for this to only stay a hobby. But for now, perfumery is just a hobby.
I was wondering when will Ryan start to teach us stuff..
Thanks.
When the student is ready the teacher will appear😜
Question for you about using materials in formula. Let's say you have a formula that calls for 1g of Ambroxan and you are using a 10% dilution of the material. Would you be adding 1g of your 10% dilution, or compensating for the dilution to meet the 1g of Ambroxan in the formula? I assume that the formula could be scaled to accommodate even if you are using a mixture of dilution and neat materials.
If I were to add 1g of my 10% dilution, then I would make sure that all of my materials are at 10%. Alternatively, I would adjust the amount added to compensate for the level of dilution such that the end amount added would be correct. In this case, if I need 1g of Ambrox, then I would either add 1g neat, 10g at 10%, 100g at 1%, etc.
Ahh, I watch the end of the video again and I think I have it.
QSP = quantum satis pro
“Sufficient quantity to”
Thank you!
Hey, Ryan. The pronunciation of phthalates at 29:53 is more like "tha-late". The "p" is silent.
VERY helpful. Thank you!
Hi Ryan,
Quick question: how different is 'different'?
We can find formulas from Google Patent.
If I replace only one material, but keep the remaining materials the same, would that be considered different? Technically, it is different but still not sure
Sometimes that one material can make all the difference. Sometimes if you overdose one material, it can make all the difference. What's important to me is whether you can tell that there is a difference. How does that difference change the story, or change the experience?
It's amazing how you can get a very different fragrance using all the same materials in slightly different amounts, but then you can get a very similar fragrance using completely different materials. Smell is a weird thing.
Ryan bring Versace Pour Homme formule :(
Does anyone have a formula for MYSLF or something similar?
Hi Ryan where can i buy formulas that are very close to original?
This is really hit or miss. I'd say each company has some great formulas that get really close, and other formulas that miss the mark. Creative-Formulas and Labtorium are two that I've used. I think FragranceCode and Perfumer Archive are two other suppliers, but I don't have much experience with either of them.