Beethoven - Symphony n°7 - Berlin / Furtwängler 1943
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- Ludwig van Beethoven
Symphony n°7 op.92
I. Poco sostenuto - Vivace 0:00
II. Allegretto 12:32
III. Presto 22:14
IV. Allegro con brio 30:30
Berliner Philharmoniker
Wilhelm Furtwängler
Live recording, Berlin, 31.X.1943 - เพลง
The best!!!
Ich "kenne" diese Symphonie nun seit etwa 50 Jahren - aber wenn ich eine Interpretation von Fortwängler höre, ist sie mir neu wie der erste Tage der Schöpfung.
Das haben Sie schön ausgedrückt.
GREATEST CONDUCTOR EVEEEEEEEEEEER
Furtwänglers Beethoven greift mich jedesmal ans Herz. Der Ton aus 1943 ist erstaunlich…und dann gibt es noch Carlos Kleiber.
I come back to this frequently.
Furtwängler blows me away every time.
These wartime recordings are amazing.
It has been said many times that when people are under a huge amount of stress it results in the most amazing humanity and I think these wartime recordings especially in the final years when it was obvious that the war was lost are a testament to that.
These German recordings, both in the concert hall and the recording studio, are culturally priceless. They take Beethoven to another level entirely. What you say about creativity under extremely trying conditions puts me in mind of my own favorite Elgar recording, Symphony no.2, by Adrian Boult and the BBCSO made just a few months after this. The orchestra had been evacuated due to the flying bombs, and made the recording in the hall of Bedford school, and just a couple of days after Sir Henry Wood had died.
The resultant performance was a powerful piece of visceral emotion, which, even with the technical advances of the 80 intervening years, is still as electrifying today.
@Mark Thompson
Great comment!
I shall check out the Elgar
Thanks.
Just the same as you, I think some of the most amazing performances are made when people are suffering the most psychological stress.
Same goes for other forms of culture, like art, writing and films. Even contemporary popular music.
Limpido
When someone asks me about a mountain that is not to be climbed, I tell him to listen to this interpretation. Thank you for uploading.
Schöne wahre Worte
Best performance of Beethoven 7 ever produced. Look for his Beethoven 3, 4, and 5 too (1940-1944). They are amazing. Red hot. Nothing like it. I own but haven't listened to his #9 but I just need some time to get to it!
Je viens d’écouter plusieurs 7° , une jeune chef hier, aujourd’hui … J’ai voulu comparer avec mes souvenirs de jeunesse, et ma référence d’alors. Quel choc de réentendre Furtwangler, enthousiasmant, énergie, puissance, nuances, vitalité tout y est, Beethoven absolu.
Was mir hier besonders auffällt, ist, dass die die Sinfonie wie aus einem Guss wirkt. Genial.
Best!! Best!! Best !! only I can say this is the Best performance ever ever!!
My God.....what an emotion....what a serenity in that second part....imagine the bombardments on Berlin were already going on......
this makes the music
The most dramatic rendering of Beethoven’s triumph out of tragic circumstances.
Crikey! what a dynamic use of timpany, started really slow and really loud! then all out,and also despite the coughing what a sound for 1943......what a sound!.
1943. In the middle of WW2. From 2nd mov., they are not just trying to evoke the mood. THEY ARE the mood itself. So different than the music after the late 20th century during the time of abundance and peace. Their music was real, so real.
That is so true!
Heavy stuff
Yes, it's obvious. The same is true of Weber's Freischütz Overture recorded in Berlin in 1944. It's magnificent.
Simply the greatest interpretation of this piece I have ever heard. Magnificent, grandiose, I have no words for its inmense grandeur. This man understood Beethoven like no one...
I don't think I have ever heard this symphony played so energetically and dynamically. Truly a masterpiece.
+Vincent Ardizzone 同感です。戦争中と思いますが。
В нём есть Немецкий Дух!
В Пёрселле есть Английский дух, точнее не дух даже, у англичан есть дух, но, он такой, приличный, не выходящий за рамки, иначе - "неприлично".
le plus grand chef d'orchestre de sa génération
Wilhelm Furtwängler n’a jamais été égalé dans l’interprétation des symphonies de Beethoven et de Brahms. La force tellurique, la formidable vitalité et la profondeur émotionnelle de ses interprétations sont tout simplement inouïes. Furtwängler avait une conception organique de la musique : donner vie à une œuvre par-delà les notes de la partition. Chaque concert était une nouvelle naissance pour les grands chefs-d’œuvre de la Musique.
I heard many 7 th's... but this one surpasses them all... no words.. he IS the soul of
the music.. he feels and knows from inside.. Tempo.. Klang..Rhytm..and above all: Depth..
pietstamitz1 Agree...the besr seventh
I could not have said better,
Agree!
Take a look at karajans version 1971
This is a very great rendition of the Seventh symphony of Bethoven. All the details are percetible, whoile the overarching architecture is quite clear and emphasized by the conductor. Very few recordings if any can be compared to Furtwangler's.
If there were very few, we would list them.
@@patrickpaganini Pierre Monteux's recording with the NBC SO (1953) is comparable to this one.
th-cam.com/video/ctPpY5JOqBA/w-d-xo.html
@@MrMoguer Thanks - that's a really good recording. I didn't think the NBC could play like that.
I would also say Karajan’s version 1971
Abbado/Berliner Phil 2001 is a great albeit very different rendition
So frisch, lebendig und wie aus einem Guss habe ich die 7. noch niemals gehört. Danke,
Violent timpani。But I think this is the style of Beethoven。love Furtwängler forever！
He Pickly 😂 this is the heavy rock of classical, play ‘em LOUD, mann!
That is magical.
Enthralling!...the greatest rendition of Beethoven's seventh ever recorded.
I disagree. How about Eisenzopf's?
@@msroper5287 WF was the BPO director since 1923... and you personal opinion is always something chewed by million people before you!
Monumental performance!
j'ai écouté bien des versions de cette symphonie mais celle ci est unique , un moment de paradis
Surely one of the best performances for the 7th ever !
I agree . . . this is brilliant! as close to perfection as Bernstein's 1958 recording . . . . Astounding!
Carlos Kleiber's witn VPO is also a reference version
Yes - and nice you mentioned Bernstein's 1958 recording.
La Settima di C. Kleiber, pur essendo certamente tra le più grandi interpretazioni, non tocca i vertici nè di Furtwangler, nè di Toscanini (specialmente 1936).
Ci piacciono le stesse cose. Bellissimo 1936 Toscanini. Mi è piaciuto molto il circa 1951 EMI Furtwanengler / Wien.
Best interpretation of Beethoven
Echt spannende Aufführung dieser erregenden Sinfonie im angemessenen Tempo und mit perfekter Kontrolle aller Instrumente. Genialer und unvergleichlicher Dirigent!
Brilliant and cosmically beautiful! Ahead of his time, he unearths the quantum beauty of the music scores!
Какая божественная гармония - слияние Бетховена с Фуртвенглером!!!
Встреча двух гениев, унёсших музыку в вечность...
Глинка гениально назвал ее "непостижимо радостной"...преклоняюсь.
Without comments! One of the best interpretations of the 7th in the XXth c.
Nothing against Beethoven's Ninth, but the Seventh is my favorite symphony by him! Furtwangler and the Berlin Philharmonic do a fabulous job in this recording!
I'll take the 3rd ("Eroica"). I also have my difficulties with Beethoven's 9th - maybe because of the chorus ... ;)
@@MusikPiratCH Eroica - Yes!
When it comes to the chorus of the 9th, I regularly surrender - Too much beauty, I guess.
Best I heard
There were many great conductors in the past, but if I have to pick one, it is Furtwängler. This performance surpasses all the others!
I agree 100% Furtwängler is the GOAT.
Extraordinary collection of the best players and conductors of all times. My aknowlegment for this musical gift to the world
Un final ahurissant. Comme tous les enregistrements de guerre ,des interprétations cataclysmiques .Grandiose et sidérant.
Dios!!! cuanta grandeza combinada!!!.Beethoven + Furtwängler + Filarmonica de Berlin .
Dios tenga en la Gloria a todos esos creadores y exponentes de la Grandeza que puede alcanzar el Espiritu Humano.
The last few minutes show why WF was so great. He generates a wild excitement but it never sounds forced, it all sounds spontaneous yet thought through. He was one of a kind. His recording of the Schumann 4th is like that too.
He liked to whip things up in the 4th movement of symphonies. That doesn't make him not great. It also doesn't make him great. OK, he was great either way. He had the offer of the Chicago job after the war but the musicians rebelled and the offer was withdrawn. He wasn't a nazi, but too close to one for the orchestra members, I guess.
@@1brewski2 He was sympathetic to Nazis. He collaborated with them, threw the Jews out of his orchestra, and played at Hitler's birthday. The Chicago Symphony Orchestra had Jews, so, of course they didn't want Furtwangler. A couple of quotes might help. Here's Bruno Walter in a letter to Furtwangler
(from the booklet from Bel Canto Society's ...................
Great Conductors of the Third Reich:
Art in the Service of Evil. The booklet is by Frederic Spotts)
"Please bear in mind that your art was used over the years as an extremely effective means of foreign propaganda for the regime of the devil; that you, thanks to your personal fame and great talent, performed valuable service for this regime and that in Germany itself the presence and activities of an artist of your rank helped to provide cultural and moral credit to those terrible criminals or at least gave considerable help to them....In contrast to that, of what significance was your helpful behavior in individual cases of Jewish distress?"
(January 1949).
and this is from Goebbels diary:
"Furtwangler practically is bursting with nationalist enthusiasm. This man has undergone a profound transformation which it gives me a great pleasure to witness. I fought for years to win him over and can now see success. He...is very willing to put himself at my disposal for any work I may require of him (Feb, 1942)"
As a human being, Furtwangler left much to be desired. He was a great conductor, though. We have to live with the facts of Furtwangler's life. Luckily we have his music, not just his life.
@@tobiolopainto Once he decided to stay in Germany and keep working, he had to go along. But I read half a life ago that he wouldn't play concerts in conquered territory. That task fell to Karajan and others. Do you know if that's true?
@@1brewski2 Get the dvd I referenced in my earlier comment. Read what Spotts and Zucker have to say about Furtwangler and all the other Nazis or sympathizers. It's not pretty. Furtwangler, according to Zucker and Spotts, "willingly cooperated with Goebbels in promoting German Cultural propaganda abroad--in Paris, Oslo Copenhagen, Malmo, Stockholm and Upsalla. Most disgracefully, he performed in Prague in 1940 at a performance arranged by Goebbels to celebrate the German takeover of Czechoslovakia and returned to conduct there in 1944." I believe all of the cities mentioned were in "conquered territory." Furtwangler did as he was told to do by Goebbels. He didn't need to be a member of the party (he was Vice President of the Reich Music Chamber) he believed the whole Nazi line of hostility, hatred and fear. He was a scumbag. But he was a great conductor. What can you do?
Furtwängler did not fire the Jews in the Berlin Philharmonic. Quite the opposite, he refused to fire them. When he was performing in Mannheim, the organizers demanded that the Jewish concertmaster should be replaced by a local violinist who was a party member. Furtwängler didn't do it and swore afterwards that he would never perform in Mannheim again. In the beginning of the Third Reich Furtwängler tried to convince Goebbels and Hitler that their antisemitic policies were killing cultural life in Germany. His talk with Hitler turned into a shouting match with both men insulting each other. Jewish musicians came to him for protection and he tried to help them, for example by helping them find jobs in other countries. Goebbels wrote in his diary at one point 'Is there a Jew in Berlin that isn't under Furtwängler's protection?' (I'm paraphrasing, I don't have the exact quote at the moment). There's also a Goebbels quote from 1944 where he says that Furtwängler was never a national socialist. This was understood by everyone in the upper echelons of the Nazi party (they listened to his phone calls with his secretary).
Concerning his concerts: yes, there were some concerts in occupied countries. He didn't want to do it but was pressured by Goebbels. He usually only performed pieces from composers of that country. Of course that was only a mild gesture but at times he also donated the money he made there to opponents of the Nazis who were in exile.
Then of course there's the famous concert on Hitler's birthday in 1942, usually seen as a sign of Furtwängler's complicity with the Nazis. But as usual with Furtwängler, there's more to it. Furtwängler hated being used by the Nazis for propaganda purposes but he was in a bind. He knew that he would be asked to conduct at Hitler's birthday so he planned a tour in April. However, Goebbels learned about it and canceled the tour, afterwards ordering Furtwängler to perform. Still, he went to some lengths to avoid having to do the Hitlergruß. And the year after that Furtwängler got a certificate from a doctor saying that he was too sick to perform. The doctor was a member of the resistance group Kreisauer Kreis. Furtwängler was friends with many members of the resistance, including Stauffenberg. There was a general understanding among the resistance that Furtwängler hated the Nazis.
I could go on. Basically, Furtwängler was a complicated human being and his relationship with the Nazis was much more complex than most people are aware of. There's a lot of misinformation out there. I'm not trying to completely absolve Furtwängler of any responsibility but to say that he was a Nazi who supported Nazi ideology and who loved working for them is ridiculous. He certainly wasn't a vicious antisemite as is proven by his actions during the Third Reich. In fact he repeatedly denounced racism of any kind in the notebooks that he kept during that era. Of course he was a man of his time, there were some prejudices, but he wanted nothing to do with the racial policies of the Nazis. And of course in the end, he had to flee because his life was in danger.
How could anyone dislike this performance?!..
Berlin 1943????
Don Luisito Only the ignorant are so blind as to believe the entirety of Germany supported the regime in power. Its honestly not much different than the people of the US in the modern age with an increasingly fascist government (not a partisan issue....but both sides responsible).
just wait until islam takes over...
*cough*cough*I don't know*cough*cough*
Individuals exist on different levels of civilization. Certain levels I do explixcitely NOT appreciate in Europe, USA, Canada or Australia.
Absolutely wonderful performance, totally true to the spirit of the music.
I just listened to Fritz Reiner's version, and I liked it, but Furtwangler is so reliably the top of the top. There is just so much energy and life in all of his interpretations, even if the recording quality isn't the best.
This is brilliance itself!
unfortunately, we can only give ONE like..
One of my half dozen favorite recordings.
今ならありえない、信じられない演奏だと思います。unbelievable! incredible! fantasitic!
un enregistrement historique et le meilleur de la septième , le maitre Furtwängler au sommet de la perfection
oui,parmi le meilleur ...quelle ode à la musique!!
Histoire de la musique. À jamais, pour toujours.
Fantastic performance!
I just listened to von Karajan's 7th and am now listening to this. Despite the lesser recording quality, this recording is head and shoulders above the other. And Karajan's probably my favorite conductor, overall, for Beethoven. This is a truly magnificent performance!
and Karajan (1963) is really the best, the ultimate standard, but this is one is above all others...we can compare no one with Furtwangler. he felt the music from inside like no one else..
You have indeed identified your human Soul and Mind in Harmony with the Immortal Spirit of Beethoven and his Conductor of this 'performance' -- or I would say, 'reliving' of the Idea of the Composer with his intention fully realized under the baton of this wonderful Genius. These soaring tones cannot be described in words.... Thank you for sharing the comparison you heard: this 'discovery' has given me further confirmation of the Universality of the Principles of classical composition which resonate in the hearts of All human creative souls.
I think you would enjoy a book called "Think Like Beethoven" written by Lyndon LaRouche, published by or available from Schillerinstitute.com
@@judyclark1906 Thank you for the kind words and we seem to be kindred souls with respect to music but I'm not gonna be reading anything by Lyndon Larouche. Sorry.
This is the most compelling performance of Beethoven's Seventh that I have ever heard with all due deference to so many other great conductors like Carlos Kleiber and their performances of this work. I have finally come to conclude, as so many before me have, that Furtwangler was, if the greatest, one of greatest maestros of the 20th Century. I just listened to his performance of the Overture/Prelude to Parsifal after having heard Solti's, Klemperer's and Karajan's' which, although excellent, could not compare.
How about Eisenzopf?
I love Casals conducting also.
@@prince4ever sans oublier ma concierge...🧙♀
You should really listen to Hans Knappertsbusch's Parsifal, he is the gold standard for Parsifal and will always be. Listen to either the 1951 (more profound and spiritual, slower tempos) performance or the 1962 (better audio and more audible dynamics). Knappertsbusch reaches a spiritual dimension that will never be equaled. It's a shame that there aren't any full Parsifal recordings from Furtwangler.
Furtwangler is the greatest conductor of Beethoven I have ever heard. I have been searching ever since for a conductor that comes close.
Elavating melody of scale, orchstration to a big scale and high scale of musicality. What a form of completion with the magic of tempo!
Una de las mejores composiciones del gran genio de Bonn, bajo la batuta del mejor intérprete de Beethoven.
Imagine listening to him today on our recordings of our age with our advanced technical progress!
John Gray the best audio systems ae build in 20 ies and 30ies, Maybe go and listnen to them in High and Muncih this year The beat all modern system regardless of price.
I would love to if you would send me a ticket!
olaf biessen Very interesting! I remember listening to records in the 30's and 40's which were excellent!
+olaf biessen I would argue that the best hifi systems were around in the 60's - 70's, after that everything declined into the sad state they're in today
BRAVO! Well, this is the first time I have heard anyone say this! The HiFi systems and recordings were the summum of perfection! My neighbor had one in 1955 - pure excellence! Thank you, Tyrfingr and Olaf Biesson (is that a name?).
If they played it today the same way there would be half an hour applause
Everything Furtwangler conducts is filled with a level of visceral excitement that no other conductor can match...!
Nunca ninguém foi tão longe!!! Sem sombra de dúvidas a melhor gravação desta sinfonia!!! Bravíssimo!!!
There is reason why most insiders consider Furtwängler the greatest conductor of all time.
The ones who never heard Mahler, Nikisch, Richter, or Mendelssohn. But let them pontificate.
@@karldelavigne8134 Have you heard them?
Sajnálatos, hogy Toscaninit elfelejti!
Masterwork Timeless, dionysiac
Sublime interpretazione non trovo più aggettivi 👍👍👍👍👌😀😀😀
Magnificent!
Monumentale. Pazzesca, mai sentita così vera.
. Let the bright Sarah film
Uno dei migliori concerti della storia della musica.
THE BEST!!!! Bravo!!!
Yes, thank you...when playing this magnificent concert, in Leningrado,Dniepr, lower Italy and many others places were fighting...
Was für ein denkwürdiges Konzert! 1943!
Espetacular! Delícia de se ouvir e mergulhar num mar de tons e notas, sem igual. Salvador-Bahia- Brasil
Insuperable, magnífica, Beethoven con toda su razón y pasión se sienten en esta versión que es la mejor de todas existentes hasta ahora. El espíritu del hombre, la búsqueda de su verdad, el atravesar sentires para llegar a concebir la felicidad de la existencia.
Tienes toda la razón !
Why can't we all just get along?! Seriously! These pages on TH-cam are not for people to bitch at each other! This page is to simply adore the genius music of Beethoven! If you're gonna complain and call people nazi's or what not, just leave the page! This is about the MUSIC, not your egocentric ideas or stereotypes! Remember, the music!
AJK95 you are perfectly right!
The glorious sounds of Furtwangler...
Insuperabile !!!
Qué belleza!! Lo bello y lo sutil conjugados. Gracias a este maestro de maestros, Wilhelm Furtwängler !
stupenda esecuzione
Solo al terzo e quarto accordo l' orchestra va assieme ! Era famoso per la sua imprecisione di gesto . Però questo E' BEETHOVEN ! e CHE BEETHOVEN !!! . Pressochè ineguagliabile questa magnifica interpretazione che fa centro pieno nel testo e nelle intenzioni , nello spirito dell' autore .
Magnífico ! Un placer escuchar a estos genios .
Electrifying!! The best EVER!!!!
I have always preferred the first movement, and here it is fantastic! The intro is slow, but it segues into the main part perfectly and totally meaningful. Love it!
eNeNe I agree. The first movement along with the introduction are Beethoven's nest work.
1st mvmt goes hardaf
Many thanks for posting this, a wonderful performance, listening to Beethoven with new ears.
Dies ist die beste Leistung, die zu hören ist!
Анализ Аллегретто (2ч.) Чем проще музыкальный материал, тем сложнее его исполнить - таков парадокс, ничего тут не поделаешь. Как раз по исполнению медленной части и можно судить об истинном исполнительском уровне музыканта-художника. Поэтому останавливаю внимание на анализе 2 части. Вот это я понимаю: гениально, спасибо, что подарили такое наслаждение. Высочайший уровень мастерства. Утонченная игра красочной палитрой нюансировки и др...Подход к кульминации и сама кульминация "захватила" мое сердце. Это точно не может оставить равнодушным музыканта. Прочтение на том уровне, когда начинаешь читать мысли самого Бетховена...Браво, я говорю "браво.
Vi vobscrto pravi. Tolko analiziruite pomenshe.
Even my Russian was hacked. Vi voobsche to pravi. ...
Так. Но, слушая это, я иногда получаю самое странное чувство, что Бетховен как-то просто раскрыл музыку, которая уже была заморожена в Космосе, ожидая освобождения. Скульптор Микеланджело, как говорят, работал таким образом, визуализируя законченную скульптуру в каменном блоке.
Но это не важно. Важно то, что эта музыка, это откровение, этот рай звуков, отражающихся во времени за пределами всего воображения.
Сожалею. Я становлюсь немного метафизическим, когда сталкиваюсь с таким величием!
Bela interpretação. Beethoven é assim: enérgico, fortaleza interior e a luta do bem contra o mal em busca de um ideal superior.
Это шедевр , исполнение великолепно !
The HMV Vienna Philharmonic performance on 78s (January 1950) is possibly just as great a performance as this recording. The famous Furtwängler sound is even more apparent. Released by Tahra (Furt 1084/1087).
常に聞いていて緊張感があります！
Совершенное исполнение!!!!
Wow,,, Wow,,, Wow,,, the Genius of Beethoven and the profound realization of being trapped in a nightmare,,, and the only way out was music,,,, all of these recordings during the third reich of Furtwangler's are a gift to humanity,,, he was no Nazi,,,,
Oh, thank you, for remarking that he was no Nazi...one might add to your comment: and many millions were also not Nazi...
norgorzg Your "many millions" who were also no nazis have not been accused to be, young boy.
norgorzg what do you know about it?
Joël Le Bras I'm commenting on purely musical terms,,,,,
Joël Le Bras
'Young boy?' How nice...You, calling me 'young boy', can you enlight us of today's world? Is this world today less of a nightmare? But I guess our topic should rather be limited to Furtwängler's art.
simply great, the beginning with the timpanies, and the slow movement.
演奏得从容不迫，优雅、细腻、深邃，气度非凡，境界高远，真好。
戦中のベルリン中央駅の音の豊かななこと！
When you're at a concert and get the urge to cough, just remember that YOU MIGHT STILL BE PISSING PEOPLE OFF IN SEVENTY YEARS TIME (18'59") ;-)
I swear I heard somebody gargling back there...
Tim Haines Best Comment EVER :)
Tim Haines When you have seen this genius direct the orchestra in this moving symphony it is not even noticed if someone coughs or not. The second movement is one of the most stirring pieces of music ever written.
"not even noticed if someone coughs" i disagree ( specialy at 18,59 , the worst moment to cough )
"The second movement is one of the most stirring pieces of music ever written."
Agree
Good, we are in harmony!
In the rehersal of the 2nd movement (August 15, 1951 with the Lucern Festival Orchestra) Furtwängler explained many things like:
- "eine Stimme von oben" - a voice from above;
- "ohne Ausdruck in den Holzbläsern" - without expression in the wood wings (just try to do so!)
- "schwer" - heavy "Ja-ba-ba-ba-Ba-ba-ba-ba-bam!"
I fully agree with these (and more) explanations by Furtwängler! A completely new insight into Beethoven's music was opened by this partly recorded rehersal! You can order this Lucerne Festival recordings on the net.
Wow, thank you for letting us all know of this treasured recording (the rehearsal of 1951 you mention above): these should be on our disks from Earth going out into Space, and onto Mars from our human base that will be thriving on the Moon, as we pursue our exploration of the Creator's gift to All Mankind! this is so powerful. Danke schoene.
The Best!!!!!
Impresionante 7 sencillamente muy buena
Estas grabaciones, son las famosas grabaciones de la guerra con una atmosfera muy peculiar i una tecnologia muy avanzada para la epoca
Furtwängler was the God of Maria
Callas, Gleen Gould and Carlos Kleiber. We understand here why. There is nothing to add.
Bang in the middle of the Second World War, a time of tragedy for so many people. And he was able to do something like this... I can only say one thing to you, @incontrario motu: THANK YOU!!! This is a gift to humanity,,,
The first movement is explosive. An amazing performance.
que fuerza!!... De una grandiosidad inacabable. Sin duda Beetthoven es con razones la fuente de inspiración para la posterior linea wagneriana
The begining of the Allegreto, so soft, so slow, Furt was such a genius. This is just incredible. You can hear the sound of the people caughing and all tho the music then overcomes everything, all the suffering and atrocities that were taking part in the same exact moments. This is on the level of the Moon landing in terms of memorable moments of the history of Mankind.
Grazie, Grazie infinite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The deep sadness and pathos is missing in most recordings by otherwise great conductors. Somehow Furtwaengler got it right. The emotions is the difference. Still the best ever. I can not imagine that it will ever be done better.
The emotion is totally extruded in the Furtwangler conduction! Unlike any other! Mein Gott.
Yes, I agree. I also know why. The emergence of a certain production company; the fall of the wall; and jet travel.
Sad to say that this recording was 1943, at the pinnacle of the nazi regime, that at a certain extent he was supporting. Is the total dissociation of art and politics ethical?
@@lrzezak do you know what day it was recorded?
@@lrzezak Furtwangler interpreted Beethoven, he was not Beethoven. Furtwanglers political views, if he really had any, does not count or negate his understanding of the emotional depth of the composer work.
the best performance i've ever heard. Bravo, maestro!
Для меня самые любимые только два дирижёра 20 века - это Е.Ф. Светланов, как непревзойденный интерпретатор русской музыки, и В. Фуртвенглер, как лучший исполнитель немецкой музыки. Я их ласково называю Светик и Фунтик!