Training Notes: Som Bo Gin Generations
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- TRAINING NOTES: SOM BO GIN - GENERATIONS
Lam Sang USA Kwongsai Mantis
1st Generation 1950s
Wong Baklim Sifu - Som Bo Gin demonstration
The importance of Lam's 1st Generation teaching is that every skill, in the Som Bo Gin Form, was taught, in three actions. One step consisted of three steps forward. Each three steps executed one, two, or three short powers. Then Three circle hands with short power. Three moves forward of three steps equaled 9. Nine is the number of completion in Chinese numerology, by which Hakka people abide.
Of equal importance was the teaching of Holding the Breath during Som Bo Gin practice. There is a step by step method which is said to force the root into the feet and the breath below the navel. The method of holding the breath is critical.
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Lam Sang USA Kwongsai
2nd Generation 1960s
Louie Jack Man --- Som Bo Gin demonstration
In contrast, Lam's second generation teaching was only one step forward with 3, 4, or 5 inch powers. Also, in contrast to the first generation's use of outside hammer fist, the second generation taught Som Bo Gin with an overhead hammer strike and sometimes taught single and double SHUNG-HAR-JONG - upper, middle, lower - as a third line of the form. This is what I will teach you, in this Course.
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China Kwongsai Mantis
Shuang Zhuang Shadowboxing form is essentially the Som Bo Gin of China's Kwongsai Mantis, as Som Bo Gin is a Double Bridge, Double Arm form. This China Kwongsai single man form contains elements and skills that are seen in Lam Sang's two man 108 form. This form builds the foundation of each form that follows.
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CHU GAR
Sifus Cheng Wan, Chen Jianming, Ma Jiuhua, Xie Tiansheng demonstration
Som Bo Gin Hard Bridge
The Chu Hard Bridge form is the most simplistic and primitive, of all the Som Bo Gin teachings. It is truly a simple foundation building form. Today many play this form completely for hard strength which may cause one to develop floating and rigid power. However, in the 1950s the Chu Gar Hard Bridge form contained boxing skills and also half hard - half soft power that is not commonly seen today.
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Chu Gar Soft Bridge
Sifus Anthony Chan, Yang Tanlu demonstration
1st Generation Disciples of Lao Sui, in the 1920s, play a Spring Power Soft version of Som Bo Gin that emphasized particularly the throwing out of power with Bic or Fic Sao hands. This skill is rarely seen today. It follows the same "outline" of the hard bridge form only with the development of soft flicking power.
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Although, SBG is usually thought of as the first form of Hakka Southern Mantis, there are some that teach Single Bridge or Single Arm Straight Step forms first, such as the DAN ZHUANG CHINA KWONGSAI MANTIS and the CHU GAR JIK BO STRAIGHT STEP FORM before Som Bo Gin.
To gain a full understanding you should start from the beginning and follow the ONLINE COURSES step by step just as you would in a regular Hakka Mantis School. Skipping any part or any Course will result in a lesser understanding and ability.
There are some 36 Single Man Forms of Hakka Mantis to be offered by HAKKA MANTIS COURSES ONLINE. Take them all as they become available, beginning in the Spring 2018... RDH
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Dear Deadly Palms, There is no such thing as CHOW GAR, in China. Yip Sui was a 2nd Generation student of Lao Sui's Chu Gar. You can visit Lao Sui's Home, Family, and Disciples today, in China. Their door is open. Both Lao's and his student Yip Sui's SOMBOGIN are primarily structural foundation training and Hard Bridge as taught commonly today. Lao Sui also taught Soft Bridge Som Bo Gin. If you are seeking SOMBOGIN with boxing skills look more closely at CHINA KWONGSAI or USA KWONGSAI Mantis. Looking will never be enough. 2nd hand hearsay will never get you far. Seek and prove all things. Come here yourself to the hometowns of HAKKA MANTIS and try it yourself.
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Can you direct me to a school “Stateside” where I might learn from?
Very interesting stuff - great to see the variations of SBJ out there. Imo, my favourite is Lao Sui's Chow Gar SBJ as it is still practiced in HK. The way it is trained seems very different, much more structurally sound then the Chu Gar alternative currently taught - although of course, it can differ with different sifu and individual practitioners. All different flavours and different functions, one might be 'better' for one function and less for another. Lao Sui's SBJ is for power development, it is not a fighting form.
deadlypalms Ng Si Kays SBJ is both a fighting and power form. It blew my mind once I understood it. All the fighting application are right in front of you.
I love Hakka boxing. I studied Chow Gar in London 21 years ago. I do have some cristism of the way we were taught though. We were very stiff and tense. Our chi sau was always about who was stronger. We didn't learn all the applications of each move so a lot of it felt redundant. I only ever saw legendary geng power in sifu lee teen loi and no matter how much dip gwut gung, sup bart um geng sau and chi gong i practiced i never really developed the famed powers. Alas, i am sure if trained correctly it would be one of the most devastating systems. I wish i could learn authentic hakka boxing in London
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I was fortunate to speak with Master Hagood years ago. I purchased the basic serious and the instruction seems very good and complete. Unfortunately , getting to old to learn approx 36 forms.
Dear Baji Mantis! Thanks! I'm 63. What and when you learn is up to you! That is an advantage to ONLINE COURSES. Hakka Mantis is not for everyone and a full transmission for even less. The saying is one useful skill is better than 10 flowery hands. You don't have to train a complete transmission of all three Branches to gain understanding and ability. You can train to your own satisfaction. When you stop learning you stop growing - when you stop growing you start dying! Mantis Onward... RDH
From time to time, I still practice Lao Sui version of SBG and I even got the Chu Gar books by RDH
correct me if I'm wrong, I see clinch movement follow by a double phoenix eye punch and an arm drag
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I didn't understand your question... Best, RDH
Which is the authentic hakka boxing system, chu, chow, jook lum or iron ox mantis? And is bak mei, southern dragon also hakka?
Dear Pahlavan, read here: hakka-mantis.com/history/#1465358176786-e0234df6-09c2
The Hakka styles such as Bak Mei, Dragon, Lijia, Mantis all come from the Huiyang, Huizhou location in Guangdong, China.
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Is there anyone in the southwest United states(namely Arizona) teaching southern mantis Kung fu.
I would very much like to formally learn. Years ago, I met a student from a school in Philadelphia and worked out with him for several years before we parted ways. He never gave me the names of the movements but I see them in Sifu Hagood. Instant recognition.
Dear Anthony
There are AZ Members. Contact me directly. hakka-mantis.com/contact/
Best,
RDH
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