NEW BF Goodrich KO3 Released: Size Availability, Launch Details, And Comparison With BFG KO2
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- BF Goodrich has been a legend in the tire business. Recently they have announced the highly anticipated BFG KO3 All Terrain Tire is officially launched... in certain sizes. We were able to get our hands on some and start testing and we want to share the major changes, how they will affect performance VS the BFG KO2 and what we think will improve and what could possibly get worse. Will the BF Goodrich KO3 be the best new tire of 2024? Here are the details...
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Did you win the Tire Size Lotto? If not, what other tires are you considering?
One of the smallest KO2 sizes is right for my Volvo XC70, probably one of the less purchased. Probably going to end up going with that KO2, as not many tires are offered in the right size, as you alluded to.
I wish BFG would offer a 255/85R17 like Mickey Thompson does, as that is a great pizza cutter for overlanders.
I have the Baja Boss in 255/85R-17 and I like that size a lot. I may consider 285/75R-18's. I wish they made a 37x11R-17
The KO2 was the king of vintage sizes like my 33X10.5R15. I love that tire size and want to keep it. I hope they keep the wide size range for us with older rigs. We deserve new tire tech too!
I purchased AT4W in 33” pizza cutters. Don’t trust BFG to roll out a tire.
I have my KO3's on their way for my Silverado TrailBoss. Will have them installed next week. Very excited to see how they perform. Great review!
What size did you go with? I have a 2020 TrailBoss. Would love to up the tire size a bit
KO2 is great. I took my 2013 tacoma on some nasty roads during colorado elk season. Mud, snow, and ice. They didn't let me down.
I have a set of those on my tacoma and have about 5k miles on them so far, but I've tested them in mud, sand, snow, highway driving, etc. already and can confirm that they are decent at all of it. Performed great in a snowstorm a couple months ago by getting me to places my buddies could not get to at all and also enabled me to pull out an HD Chevy that found himself in a ditch.
Lmao. Getting you places no one else could. Has minimal to do with tires of equal style tread.
Used your Tacoma to pull out a Chevy hd? Hahahahaha
Really want a 285/85r17! I have been running 315/70r17 KO2s and have beat them up severely! I love them but want to try a pizza cutter. This new size would be just a little taller, have more contact in a longer pattern when aired down, less rolling resistance in slush and more down pressure on ice/snow.
Pizza cutters are 255/80r17. I run this size on my FJ, except the look they are excellent.
@@pawezieja3806 ya, even narrower would be good but I would loose an inch of ground clearance with those dimensions, 285s are pizza cutters compared to 315s, 255/90r17 would give me the same clearance, but 285/85r17s seem like a pipe dream I can't imagine them making something like a 90 or 100 series. The side wall would have to be really stiff and I don't know how they would handle?
I run 285/75/17’s on my Ram 1500. I have zero regrets running a skinny tire. More ground clearance, less rolling resistance, more bump compliance. A 35” skinny would be interesting.
Excited that I was able to get KO3s (285/70/17) for my LC200 3 weeks ago at Discount Tire in Vista, CA - they said it was the first set they've put on. This video was the reason I went that direction vs KO2s. My new-to-me LC200 had OEM Bridgestone Duelers and so I can't comment on the KO3s vs. KO2s. I will say that they run very smooth on tarmac with no more rumble noise than the much less capable Duelers. So far so good.
By far best video I have ever watched on tyres. Wow!
BFG has been owned by Michelin for over 30 years. Michelin invented the radial tire and also lead the industry in adopting segmented molds instead of clam shell molds. You can see the clam shell seam on the KO2, I would have to see a KO3 to see which mold style it uses. Segmented molds give a truer round tire and balance much better. Michelin only uses segmented molds for their branded tires.
2014 Denali 1500, 1 set of KOs, 2 sets of KO2s, recently bought 1st set of KO3s. All 275/65 20s. Over 160K miles with no complaints. Hopefully the next set of tires that I buy will have a brand new truck sitting on them!
Really good over view the tread design changes & more. Thank you.
Love the clear reasoning on your channel! Please explain how to think of the different road-driving MPG consequences of putting bigger tires on your off-road vehicle. Which makes a bigger difference when you put on bigger rubber?
1. rolling weight/heavier tire?
2. taller diameter / angle of momentum change?
3. width, wider contact patch more rubber on the road, wider tire pushing through the wind.
4. extra lifted height of your vehicle pushing through the wind, from the tire itself, and from any lift you added to clear the tire?
Assuming the same (AT/TA) tread design and compound, which of these four factors makes the biggest difference for MPG, torque, and performance? Which of them do we over-estimate or under-estimate? And which factors am I forgetting? Thanks! Off-road forums are full of discussions about this and lot of disagreement and misunderstanding (plus people telling you it's stupid to think about MPG for an off-road vehicle on the road, haha). Thanks for a great video. You mention tire-weight consequences in your tire reviews, but it would be great to see you address the big factors question generally rather than regarding a specific tire models.
Thank you for all your effort
10/10 video on the KO3, cant wait to test them out
KO2s are the best AT tire ive ever used. Got over 70k miles on them , and took them on some nasty stuff while daily driving them on major highways. Cant wait to get the KO3s.
285/70r18 master race!! Glad this size is seeing more options.
Glad to see the 37x12.5r17 C tire in KO3 too !! and at 66lb (2lb more than the same spec KO2) I kinda know what I need to buy when my current ko2 37s wear out. I just got the 37s 3 months back on a killer deal as they were clearing stocks.
Not coming till 2026 I read
I’m torn. They will have my size for my Tacoma in August which is when I’ll need new tires. But living in New England I need to know they will be good in the rain, mud and snow. It’s either K03’s or AT4’s …..we need more rain testing for driving and braking. Great video as always!
At4 shouldn't even be an option for you on your little pickup. In between the KO3 and the AT3 the AT3 is still showing to be better in what you're talking about, wet/snow.
Love my K02’s…look forward to the K03’s at the next change. Thanks for doing the research! Great vid!!
2019 Chevrolet Black Ops edition, original KO2’s at 45,000 miles now, hydroplaning is a big issue in the rear and mud traction is not the greatest. Just ordered 325/60/20 KO3’s hopefully they won’t disappoint, KO2’s didn’t disappoint but could use some improvement. As far as snow the KO2’s were awesome, hopefully I can get the same good features in the KO3’s. Thanks for the video!
Just put a set of 275/65 20 on my Silverado 2500HD. After about a thousand miles, they're great! I'll get some more off-road time this summer and snow and ice in the winter to see how they compare with the sets of earlier editions that I've had over the years.
Love my 37” Ko2, going to be hard to part with them for Ko3’s.
Love to see another 285/70/18 option!
Great video bro!
Thanks for review!!
I’m so torn between keeping my stock 22 wheels and getting 302/55/22 but unsure if it affects tranny or gearing? Also weight?
Or going down to a 20in wheel and bigger tire for extra sidewall and keeping stock diameter to not upset OEM settings.
23 Ram limited, no off-roading
I cant wait to pick up a pair before next snow season!!
Thanks for this video! I am looking to upgrade the new 2024 Hybrid Landcruiser's tires. Is the the WildPeak AT4w too heavy for this hybrid such that I should go for the KO3 instead?
Falken Wildpeak At4 had my size and I needed new tires. Looking forward to comparison!
The Wildpeaks will outperform the KO's any day in any conditions. KO's are garbage offroad and turn into slicks in wet conditions.
Great review! I really hope they solved the balancing issue. It was becoming really bad. Id have to order 12 tires to get 4 to roadforce properly. Went tonthe falkons and they are amazing. But i love tthe ko2/3 look so hoping to switch back..
275/65-20! Yay! Still leaning towards Wildpeaks though. I won’t need tires for another year anyways
15k miles on my Grabber ATX. Although this winter was very mild, they performed much better than my old Michelin LTX m/s2. 2wd and I can make it up my driveway no problem.
Awesome Comparison Video Man
Still have about a year of tread left on my Rangers 265/70r17 KO2s. I was strongly considering the Cooper Discoverer Rugged Treks for my next tire, but the KO3s have me rethinking this.
Great Video!
This was an awesome detailed review. Have you ever looked at the Firestone Destination X/T? I don't know why but it seems to be an oldie but goodie that no one talks about.
Facts! Super underrated
“Water doesn’t really compress”. Definitely understated, water compresses virtually ZERO. It’s the reason hydraulics work and can do things like crush rocks and metal.
Yeah… that’s why I said it…
Very informative video. By chance, has there been any comparison to other tires such as the NITTO ridge grappler’s?
Does the new good year wrangler duratrac RT have full depth sipes?
I have the ko2’s. They worked great in the snow and mud.
Oh man I was just gonna get some Falken AT3s this weekend. Now I gotta do more thinking
I like the retro look...I even have the smallest BFG tire on my Golf cart..retro look. I need 37 12.5 20 and presently have Falkin wildpeak AT3... best tire I have owned to date on my 2020 7.3 f250. I will buy the KO3 or Wild Peak AT4 whichever comes out in my size first. Hopefully in the next 4 mos or 10k miles someone has that size.
I have a 2022 Tacoma TRD sport 4x4. I average 20 ish k miles a year, >80% highway/>15% city/
KO2 had problems balancing, bought a set in 2019 and 3 of 4 had to be replaced as Discount Tires was road force balance the tires. And I had no issues during those 5 years. Again, have tire shop road force balance and make sure they don't exceed the max balance weights.
Wondering how we know what the max balance weight is?
I have confirmed delivery of May 7 for the 276/70-18 for 2022 F350 diesel from Discount tire. Last week they offered me the KO2 if I did not want to wait a week at basically the same price.
Discount Tire just ordered my 275/70-18 and claim they will arrive Monday 5/6. Fingers crossed that's correct as the sheet indicates August for that size. If they don't get them, I'll have to go another route as I've eked as much as I can out of my KO2. Would HATE to go another direction, but BFG have taken way way way too long on this tire and I don't want to pay the same amount for replacement set of KO2 if the KO3 is coming available. BFG have royally messed this up IMO. I've had KO2 on all my LandCruisers and they are all coming due. Without the KO3 option, I'd consider going to Falken since they are widely available.
275/70-18 is in blue. I am confused why you say august. Waiting for discount to confirm my delivery for the same size
I'll be the guy. Discount tire would sell you the K07 with one week availability. I bought another AT tire a few years ago, made an appointment, took a day off work, only to arrive to a bunch of excuses and no tires. I moved on and got tires from another vendor. One month later, I got a call ... My tires were in at Discount. I hope your story ends better and quicker than mine.
How do you go from KO2 to Falken? Just curious. Falken is not a popular tire in my area and opinion. From watching numerous videos online. It seems like Nitto seems to be the most popular among the off road crowd. If you don’t do much off roading then I guess it doesn’t matter. I have always had BFG MT’s on all my four wheel drive vehicles. They have worked well in the snow, sand, off road and on highway wet or dry. There was a time I wouldn’t run anything but BFG MTs on my vehicles
Yep. Falken wildpeak at4w for me next. I can’t wait that long
Put mine on 6months ago. F350. Size just happened to be my stock size. So much better in snow than ko2s
BFG homer here. Super stoked for the new AT KO's. However, I need 37's for my Jeep JK. I've still got about a year left on my current tread, but if I can't get KO3's in 37's by the time I need them, I'll go for the Nitto Ridge Grappler or Recon Grappler.
Thank God, I'm wondering if there offering any discount to upgrade from KO2's.
Looks like we may have won. Shooting for 275/70 R18 when the stock tires are done. I think the schedule in your video shows that size releasing in August. Love all your content, keep up the good work!
What you putting those on?
@@johnwalker1848 We have a 2023 Colorado Trail Boss.
I couldn't wait another year for my sizes. I just bought two sets of Falken AT4Ws for my two trucks. I wanted to get one set of KO3s for one of the trucks but oh well.
I did the same thing. I love my At4w. I hated my ko2
Excellent review! Love your videos! Do you have one coming for the Duratrac RT?
RT Testing and review is underway... keep an eye out or subscribe to be notified when it comes out.
I bought my 1st truck and it came with the KO2s from factory (ranger raptor). I am shocked, how the tires are slippery on wet roads even at mild temperature + how hard they get at freezing temperature.
can the KO3 be considered as a safer choice for wet conditions, or should I look elswhere, like falkens, etc.?
Ran the KO and KO2s on my truck. Great tire just wish they had more tread depth. Will be trying the Yokohama Geolandars M/T G003 next.
Great video
So far I’m loving my KO3’s. The true test will be there traction on wet roads. Very quiet, didn’t realize how loud my Ridge Grapplers had gotten. And they look sharp as hell, love the raised white letters and aggressive sidewall. They look much better than the KO2’s. Hope I can hold out till August so I can put these on my Bronco.
I have a 4Runner and getting the 3's put on tomorrow. You do have the option of white or black lettering. I haven't decided yet. Heading into Canada and Alaska this summer and looking forward to having these on.
I got a 4runner. Let me know what you think. I have highway tires and looking for an all terrain for it.
@@dbphillips1978 I love the ko3's. On the street, no more vibration or noise than stock tires and they are better in the rain. I love them.
How’s your mileage? You get 265 in e load?
I've only been on the street. It's too early yet, but so far, I'm not seeing a difference, but I have to believe the milage has to be less at least a little. I had it on gravel for about a quarter mile with a commercial lawn mower on a trailer. I had to go up a 30% grade from a stop. In 2 wheel drive, no spinning. Once on the street, it seems to throw out stones like the 2's. I was hoping that it would be less. Still ecstatic about them and they were $2 cheaper than the 2's. That never happens nowadays.@@andrewwilliamson4306
I got mine end of February from Walmart 275/65R20 $420 each 😎 pretty good so far got stuck in some lite sand in Moab
I have a 2024 F150 Powerboost on order currently and would like to try a set of the new KO3"s on it. I currently have the KO2's on a 2017 Ram 2500 CTD and am mostly happy with the KO2's other than the balancing issue. Can't seem to keep them balanced well for more than about 6 to 7 thousand miles at a time. If BFG can get the balancing issues fixed with the new tires, that would be winner for me. If not I will be looking for a different tire manufacturer.
Never had a single issue with mudd on the ko2's. I also never had any issues with hydroplaning and I was mobbing deep water quite often above 80 at times
How does the weight compare? I know the k02s were surprisingly light in your 35s comparison
I may be interested in the 265/70/17 for my 4runner when my grabber ATX are worn. Itll depend on its actual measured width. May rub.
As long as there is "new and improved" tire, there will be a promotional sales program to hype it up.
Think $!
I had my KO2 since 2017 and needed a new set in 265/75R16. I was going to get the KO3 but got tired of waiting so I went with the Falken AT4W. Awesome tires and cheaper than BFG!
I'm in the same boat, thinking getting the TOYO AT3. How's the Falken in mud and snow (that's if you had the chance of driving in those conditions).
@@ru2yaz33 I have not put them through mud or snow but have taken them lightly off-road on Temblor Range road through Carrizo Plain National monument. I would go with the AT4W instead of AT3. They’re the new and improved version of AT3 and for about the same amount of money. They’re more quiet on road comparing to KO2 as well.
will the sidewalls be as stout as the Toyo/Nitto tires ,will the rubber not dry rot as fast as their predecessor ? i guess time will tell .
I doubt it. Seems like BFG came out with an update after 10 years to compete with tires that came out 5 years ago. Typical for them late to the party and under competing immediately.
Thanks mate probably won't see them in ozz for a year
I just put some ko2 35x12.50R20 on my 2020 F250 6.7 lariat & I hope I can get 50,000 out of them. I’ve heard great things about the KO2’s & I’m off-road everyday in sand & mud. Bad mud. So I’ll see how they hold up over time.
I’m over 50k miles on KO2’s on my 2018 Tundra. I’m going to need to replace them in the Summer/Fall before snowfall. I live in Western Colorado. I’ve been happy with the KO2’s but I missed on the size lotto. 285/55/20’s. 🤷🏽. If I can’t get that size (or substitute) maybe I can fit the 275/65/20’s. If not, I guess it’s Falken AT3W’s for me. I’ll need the 3Peak Mountain Snowflake.
Great video . I agree they need to make a 40
Great video as usual. What do you think the better tire for towing and snow performance is, KO3 or Falken AT4?
Probably the AT4W in the HD/3 ply sidewall.... they seem to still be the champs in snow... the K03 is much improved in that area though
@@OutdoorAuto thanks, really appreciate the reply. That was the direction I was leaning.
Was able to pick up a set of 285/70/17 load C through discount… pita. Ordered online, got called they were not available in all black, was told they were available with white lettering. Got that set ordered. Had “them”installed on a rainy day where I failed to check before leaving…KO2s. Called them the next day and told them specifically wanted the KO3s and the sales rep said they had em stock with white letters when he called me initially. magically a week later they found me a set in a warehouse somewhere.
Coming from AT3s they are pretty comparable in dry and wet road conditions. Far superior to KO2s(previous set and the new set I had on for a week) Haven’t had a chance to take em off pavement yet. They do ride a bit rougher than AT3s though. About 1 month on them.
I'm guessing these are more similar in compound and manufacturing to the All Terrain TA. They have those dimples too. I got a set of those because I got tired of waiting for the K03, and they are actually better in snow and rain. The balancing was not great though, I had to send back a tire.
Am I missing something here? The Load Range is directly correlated to the number of plys in the tire (i.e. C=6, D=8, E=10, F=12, G=14 etc.)? How are there Load Range C tires with 2 or 3 plys?
I am going to be needing new tires around the end of the year. Question for me was stick with the K02 or move to something else for our '21 Ranger. I love the way the K02 look and had zero complaints in the sand or towing. Really the only "issues" I have with the K02 have been on-road. Rain performance seems weak and when dry weather taking off enthusiastically can break the tires loose maybe a little easier than I would like. K03 may actually solve these concerns. Either way, K02 have treated me well so I could live with another set too.
i use ko2's on my farm truck because its the only tire i found so far that lets me drive out into a not really slick field and get back without a flat. dont care about mud, snow or martian dust because my truck never sees those... it DOES see small metal things hidden in the fields.
265/75 R16 - winner winner chicken dinner! I have this size on my Tacoma.
Same. Luckily I don't need new tires for a while. I want to see how they handle a cold winter before I buy.
I wonder if these are less noisy than the KO2. I’ve had BFG AT’s on every truck SUV I’ve ever owned and the only downside I’ve found in them
Is around the half way mark they seem to get a lot louder.
They have my size. Excited to get them
255/85/16
Great review. Would definitely watch one on the Duratrac RT once available.
Unbreakable tires, so good and durable. If the ko3 is with white letters it will be so nice 😊
I'm excited for the KO3, I have the KO2 now And only 20K miles and I'm in the yellow on my tread gauge. No way I'm making it to 50K miles. Yes I am a little harder on tires, 2022 2 door Rubicon offroad almost every weekend. I will upgrade to a 35 I'm trying to hold out but may be forced to replace before 25K.
I will be holding out for my size. My OEM tires have only 15000 miles on them. Wasn't going to change them until it was time to anyway.
arctic trucks in iceland has some special Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires made specially for them that it would be great to get ahold of here in the states and i am sure it can be done with a phone call
Hands down the best all terrain tire for every day trucks.. I have them on 3 different trucks and its all I will run
The S-Shaped center lug may have originated on the Pirelli Scorpion ATP - a good tire no one talks about.
What does the 'F' on some sizes stand for?
Sure hope the E rated tires tow well. KO2s were ok (better than the factory Goodyears on my AT4) but an improvement would be nice.
I did see my tire size 315/70-17 , I currently have KO2 that will need to be replaced by the end of the year, so I’m hoping to go with these updated tires
Awesome, You won the tire size Lotto
BF Goodrich is a Michelin company so I would expect it to have a tougher casing than others I am a Michelin guy so for my jeep I would go with the BF Goodrich.
K02 looks more aggressive? or it is just because of the tire size?
Looks like my size will be available in August. Thing is with the previous inconsistencies , I almost want to wait a bit for after market reviews before i pick a set of these up . The closest challengers to these are going to be the at4ws for my TRX, but they are HEAVY .... another thing im wondering about is the speed rating on these tires. With the at4ws they have a d rated tire that goes up to the 118 mph rating , but I havent tried falkens yet. I could go with the Goodyears OEMS but ive heard mixed reviews about those . Im 95% highway / daily driving these , but want to keep the ability of using it off road if need be.
What do you suggest?
You have TRX and you're worried about the weight of tires?
@@kevinstarski1598 just trying to get the best bang for my buck i guess
My size doesn’t come out until August and I need tires now, probably going with the at4w unfortunately
Jeep had a 40x13.50R17 KO3 on their gladiator concept at Easter Jeep Safari this year.
Also I'm glad you posted with comments turned on lol
I was watching the original upload and suddenly it stopped towards the end. Did you reupload or?
The largest tire that's reasonable for my VW Vanagon camper is 215/75/16. Given the big tire arms race, I doubt that BFG will make that size available soon, if at all. I need new tires for my van and have liked both the KO and KO2, so I guess I'll go ahead and buy some remaining stock of those.
Are the white raised letters still available on the K03s?
Nobody Knows...
I'm on 16s so they got all my sizes first. Too bad I still have plenty of tread on my ko2s. Looking forward to buying a set in a year or two. I'm hoping they're a tad lighter as well.
Smaller sizes are available soon. However I was told by bf Goodrich directly that the 37x12.50’s won’t be available till october
Do you know if they will be eventually available in 15" sizes like the KO2s were or is it 16" and up this time? Hope they plan to do a 215/75R15 again, loving my set of KO2s...
Not sure, but I will definitely ask when I get a meeting with BFG
@@OutdoorAuto Thank you so much, I appreciate it.