Dark Void got cheated. Without Smeargle being able to use it there is no reason that Darkrai’s Dark Void shouldn’t be an 80% accuracy. It’s not like Darkrai has ever been allowed in VGC outside the final SwSh online format.
It's still pretty broken in doubles formats. In fact, the only format it would NOT be broken in is exactly singles with Smogon sleep clause, every other format and it's just too good
I will forever be salty towards Smeargle for screwing Darkrai over by getting Dark Void nerfed when just removing the move from Smeargle (WHICH THEY ALREADY DID) would’ve been sufficient
IIRC the enigma berry IS legitimately obtainable by using pokemon Box. The big thing is that the e reader cards aren’t just an “unlock” to something in the game, the e reader cards legitimately inject data into the game, I.e DLC. So if you have a Pokémon with an e reader berry, put it into a game without the e reader data, there’s no data to pull. I think typical trading is blocked with e reader berries by box made no such restriction.
The dark void accuracy nerf never made sense to me. It is a mythical's signature move, and they had already programmed it to prevent anyone but darkrai from using it. Making it less viable in standard play than Sing is incredibly stupid, this one change alone makes hypnosis a more commonly viable move over Dark Void.
Its more than just a little crazy to me that many individual Pokémon have been stronger than Latios or Latias with soul dew before even giving those pokemon an item.
@@hex8597 you're thinking of Eviolite, which multiplies Def and SpD by 1.5 but can only be used by Pokémon that aren't fully evolved. Soul Dew, which is explained in the vid, can only be used by Latios and Latias and used to multiply SpA and SpD by 1.5, before they nerfed it.
I remember the times when Sky Drop was banned in Gen 5, it was all people in my friends group that played Pokémon talked about at the time. Another great video Gator. 👍
The sould dew likely wasn't banned for being "Too strong". Chances are, it's because in most generations it's an event only item, and official tournaments always ban event only stuff like pokémon. Only event mons that have ever really been allowed were normal mons with event exclusive moves
Is dark void the only move thats unable to be used by others? i do find it funny, how dark void, a strong nightmare attack is unreproducable now, but ripping the fabric of space or time or giving heavenly judgement is possible
The fact that it specifically "fails when called by Assist", rather than being blacklisted from Assist like some moves that really shouldn't be called by Assist (e.g. Dragon Tail) stands out. Particularly because Assist is the cause of several shenanigans, from priority manipulation with Full Incense Liepard+Lagging Tail Purrloin to make Dive's 0.5 priority -> -0.5 priority dodge on both moves, to tag battle trolling with one side running Wide Lens+Dark Void (assist) Liepard to put both opponents to sleep with +1 priority, to the theoretical case of Liepard+Purrloin+Meowstic having *96 lives* with Assist+Revival Blessing...
Forgetting chatter! You mentioned Chatot but not the reason behind its ban. Chatter allowed you to a play a custom voice clip which would cause problems. Also it is puesdo banned just like dark void since smeargle cannot learn it.
That’s a really funny one, because technically the move Chatter wasn’t banned. The only Pokémon Chatot, was though. It’s because Chatot’s cry would also change to the recorded message. 😂
Yes. If you transform, you are treated as that Pokémon until the transformation ends. Since your transformed Smeargle is now a Darkrai until it switches out, it can do anything a Darkrai can do. Also, it’s not that Smeargle specifically can’t use Dark Void, it’s that only Darkrai can use it, and any other Pokémon using Dark Void will fail. The same goes for Hoopa Unbound’s signature move, Hyperspace Fury
why was there so much time on the tcg and the latias film? it feels tenuously related to the video, but not rlly interesting to someone only rlly interested in the games (though tbf, i loved that film as a kid so i welcomed the mention :))
It's pretty fucked that Darkrai's best sleep-inducing moves is Hypnosis now. Also, I'm not a fan of how certain moves straight-up won't work when used by other Pokémon. I believe Hyperspace Fury was the first such move. Doing so goes against the whole point of Metronome, Sketch, and Assist. In my opinion, they should have modified Darkrai's Ability to also increase Dark Void's accuracy.
I don't get you ; You pick interesting Topics but you´re often rambly while simultaneously providing to little information... Example You decided to talk about stuff regarding Sky Drop besides the mechanics that the topic is about(Grivty Glitch) but don't do it properly since you don't mention key things that makes this move interesting while delving into it, like the Weight Mechanics of the move that makes it so that you can't pick up Pokemon that weighs 200kg or more(Side Note that should have been mention ; Which is my Totem Araquanid was used over Normal Araquanid Since it weigh just above 200kg while being in it's totem form ; another bons fact regarding this that should have been mentioned ; So If you saw a non totem Araquanid you could be pretty sure it had egg moves ; since totem pokemon can't have those which is why totem salazlle never saw any use since Fake Out is an Egg move. ; This prior Example is how you deep dive, you don't even scratch the surface level adequately, encounter this problem from you in multiple video & the sloppyness is very frustrating to watch since it's bad edutainment... ) This time I won't finish the video since elaborate criticism take to much time from me & I'm not getting the enjoyment I'd like to get from your videos, Improve plz!
Ironically, you weakened your own point by going further off the rails in your supposed “on-topic” context. From what started as the move Sky Drop became a discussion about totem forms and then egg moves. The main topic was why Sky Drop got banned, and the reason to it is the Gravity glitch, not any of the additional mechanics, hence why they weren’t explained. No hard feelings :)
The idea of Darkrai getting up early to eat its Enigma Berry is oddly adorable.
Oh boy! 3 A.M.!
How does he eats
@@miuki2721yes
Dark Void got cheated. Without Smeargle being able to use it there is no reason that Darkrai’s Dark Void shouldn’t be an 80% accuracy. It’s not like Darkrai has ever been allowed in VGC outside the final SwSh online format.
In Legends Arceus dark void was given 90% accuracy. I was hype when I saw this.
It's still pretty broken in doubles formats. In fact, the only format it would NOT be broken in is exactly singles with Smogon sleep clause, every other format and it's just too good
@@NeoBoneGirlit doesn’t matter how broken it is if the only Pokemon that learns it isn’t tournament legal
@@ONLY_RR7 So it can be useless and then there's no problem, right?
@@NeoBoneGirl The single player game mode exists.
I will forever be salty towards Smeargle for screwing Darkrai over by getting Dark Void nerfed when just removing the move from Smeargle (WHICH THEY ALREADY DID) would’ve been sufficient
Right? Now its best sleep move is Hypnosis! Even Sleep Powder would be better!
IIRC the enigma berry IS legitimately obtainable by using pokemon Box. The big thing is that the e reader cards aren’t just an “unlock” to something in the game, the e reader cards legitimately inject data into the game, I.e DLC. So if you have a Pokémon with an e reader berry, put it into a game without the e reader data, there’s no data to pull.
I think typical trading is blocked with e reader berries by box made no such restriction.
The dark void accuracy nerf never made sense to me. It is a mythical's signature move, and they had already programmed it to prevent anyone but darkrai from using it. Making it less viable in standard play than Sing is incredibly stupid, this one change alone makes hypnosis a more commonly viable move over Dark Void.
Its more than just a little crazy to me that many individual Pokémon have been stronger than Latios or Latias with soul dew before even giving those pokemon an item.
Soul Dew is like an Assault Vest bred with Choice Specs, with the drawbacks bred out, before it was nerfed.
Its defense and special defense
@@hex8597 no it is not. It is a special attack and defense boost.
@@david_lynch_gaminglatios/latias special attack and special defense boost by 50% no drawback
@@hex8597 SpAtk and SpDef, it's literally in the vid bro
@@hex8597 you're thinking of Eviolite, which multiplies Def and SpD by 1.5 but can only be used by Pokémon that aren't fully evolved. Soul Dew, which is explained in the vid, can only be used by Latios and Latias and used to multiply SpA and SpD by 1.5, before they nerfed it.
I remember the times when Sky Drop was banned in Gen 5, it was all people in my friends group that played Pokémon talked about at the time. Another great video Gator. 👍
When Darkrai wasn't even the reason that has its own signature move nerfed to the ground because it wasn't allowed in VGC.
The sould dew likely wasn't banned for being "Too strong". Chances are, it's because in most generations it's an event only item, and official tournaments always ban event only stuff like pokémon. Only event mons that have ever really been allowed were normal mons with event exclusive moves
i.e. hold hands Vivillion
No I 100% believe that's why. And proof of that is it being omega nerfed
10:10 I think you confused Precipice Blades with Thousand Arrows
When I made my darkrai/smeargle fusion sona, I did not know about the history with these two. Talk about a serious coincidence.
You should get it added to Infinite Fusions
2:28 Ash used rizz
It was super effective
On both Pokémon & Human
Bro is 10 and he got more girls than someone's lifetime ☠️
@@Yapooper-rg9gt
I mean he is 10 for almost an eternity
*Lillie has her bag with a Soul Dew*
You can’t stop me!!!
Is dark void the only move thats unable to be used by others? i do find it funny, how dark void, a strong nightmare attack is unreproducable now, but ripping the fabric of space or time or giving heavenly judgement is possible
It's not the only one, Hyperspace Fury can only be used by Hoopa-Unbound.
3:00 a Latias with 60 HP 😭
Power creep has truly gone wild
Giga Chad Swampert, Don't Fuckle with Shuckle, & Dark Lord Smeargle.
My power is growing 😂
I did not know I wanted to see darkpatrai until now. Now I can't stop thinking of it.
Patrickrai
@@douglanmar Nah, fam. I'm pretty sure that would be a jubilant, Patrick-colored darkrai using Pat Void.
4:09 the ligma berry 🤨
During early-mid sword and shield Fairy Lock also crashed the game
The ligma berry 😂
The sukapon berry
The Ligma Berry?🤔😂
Anyone else see May saying Tomboy Tuesday around 1:34?
I thought it was because Soul Dew and Enigma berries were unobtainable in regular play…
4:08 🤔🤔 the ligma berry???
The fact that it specifically "fails when called by Assist", rather than being blacklisted from Assist like some moves that really shouldn't be called by Assist (e.g. Dragon Tail) stands out.
Particularly because Assist is the cause of several shenanigans, from priority manipulation with Full Incense Liepard+Lagging Tail Purrloin to make Dive's 0.5 priority -> -0.5 priority dodge on both moves, to tag battle trolling with one side running Wide Lens+Dark Void (assist) Liepard to put both opponents to sleep with +1 priority, to the theoretical case of Liepard+Purrloin+Meowstic having *96 lives* with Assist+Revival Blessing...
Sky drop works on humans too😂
The question mark on the berry is for the question. What's ligma?
LIGMA BALLS
I proudly have all of the movie half deck cards and I do mean all of the movies including the lenticular deoxys that changes forms
Thank god I bought the Alto Mare cards well before this video, theyve gone up over the last while
"Smeargle has a fun gimmick" VGC players: *AAAAAAAAAA BURN IN THE FLAMES IN HELL AAAAAAA*
Live Wo-Chien reaction:
I’ve always wondered how to obtain a soul dew in gen 3 without a GameShark
By going to the event exclusive Southern Island and catching the other Lati pokemon that's not in your game. They come with it equipped
Forgetting chatter! You mentioned Chatot but not the reason behind its ban. Chatter allowed you to a play a custom voice clip which would cause problems. Also it is puesdo banned just like dark void since smeargle cannot learn it.
That’s a really funny one, because technically the move Chatter wasn’t banned. The only Pokémon Chatot, was though. It’s because Chatot’s cry would also change to the recorded message. 😂
Chatter has a 100% odds of causing Confusion in Pokémon as well, and has 100% accuracy iirc.
@@autumnroses6630yes but confusion is just a worse paralyze anyways so it dosnt really matter
man
if only we could plant berries in modern games
Ligma Berry.
Braviary is the Soul of America... I mean Unova.
Glitchtrap in the thumbnail.
Did you just say ligma berry
I'm wondering... If a Smeargle used transform on a Darkrai, would it be able to use dark void or not? Food for thought.
Yes. If you transform, you are treated as that Pokémon until the transformation ends. Since your transformed Smeargle is now a Darkrai until it switches out, it can do anything a Darkrai can do.
Also, it’s not that Smeargle specifically can’t use Dark Void, it’s that only Darkrai can use it, and any other Pokémon using Dark Void will fail. The same goes for Hoopa Unbound’s signature move, Hyperspace Fury
Ligma berry. not slick lmfao.
Soul Dew was better than the mega stone. Obviously it was busted.
Ligma berry
why was there so much time on the tcg and the latias film? it feels tenuously related to the video, but not rlly interesting to someone only rlly interested in the games (though tbf, i loved that film as a kid so i welcomed the mention :))
BW2 Rt 10. best song.
1:34 Tomboy Tuesday woo!
It's pretty fucked that Darkrai's best sleep-inducing moves is Hypnosis now.
Also, I'm not a fan of how certain moves straight-up won't work when used by other Pokémon. I believe Hyperspace Fury was the first such move. Doing so goes against the whole point of Metronome, Sketch, and Assist.
In my opinion, they should have modified Darkrai's Ability to also increase Dark Void's accuracy.
I never knew sky drop caused that effect in gen 5. But then again I didn't play gen 5
8:01 “Tomboy Battle meal”? I don’t get it.
Its tomboy tuesday
@@Dagolis Still don’t get it lol
Soul dew was so busted. It was a free calm mind boost with 0 draw backs. It was banned for a reason
And for people who are stupid and don't know how impactful that is. Imagine no drawback choice specs assault vest.
Tomboy Tuesday eh? 😏
Gen 7 is just gen 6.3
Wasn't chatter banned too?
Neat information
It’s… Saturday? Dang liberal tomboys trying to change our weeks…!
*Pokémon may not hold the item Soul Dew*
Ehat about the glitch with florgess
Hello
I don't get you ; You pick interesting Topics but you´re often rambly while simultaneously providing to little information... Example You decided to talk about stuff regarding Sky Drop besides the mechanics that the topic is about(Grivty Glitch) but don't do it properly since you don't mention key things that makes this move interesting while delving into it, like the Weight Mechanics of the move that makes it so that you can't pick up Pokemon that weighs 200kg or more(Side Note that should have been mention ; Which is my Totem Araquanid was used over Normal Araquanid Since it weigh just above 200kg while being in it's totem form ; another bons fact regarding this that should have been mentioned ; So If you saw a non totem Araquanid you could be pretty sure it had egg moves ; since totem pokemon can't have those which is why totem salazlle never saw any use since Fake Out is an Egg move. ; This prior Example is how you deep dive, you don't even scratch the surface level adequately, encounter this problem from you in multiple video & the sloppyness is very frustrating to watch since it's bad edutainment... )
This time I won't finish the video since elaborate criticism take to much time from me & I'm not getting the enjoyment I'd like to get from your videos, Improve plz!
If u dont like his vids then dont watch lmao, no ones stopping u
Ironically, you weakened your own point by going further off the rails in your supposed “on-topic” context. From what started as the move Sky Drop became a discussion about totem forms and then egg moves. The main topic was why Sky Drop got banned, and the reason to it is the Gravity glitch, not any of the additional mechanics, hence why they weren’t explained. No hard feelings :)
Lt
First
Ash-grenija is not canon