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Blizzard's phase 4 rundown was just released, confirmed the next phase for Season of Discovery to be starting on July 11th. This phase will raise the level cap to 60 and will get us started on Vanilla World of Warcraft's endgame with a seasonal twist.
Today I go over all the news that has dropped and get you up to speed with everything you'll want to know.
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Sorry dude world buffs are fun
People complain for everything: content too easy, content too hard, few things to do, crying about raid twice a week, crying about dailies, crting about class balance, ecc. People just want to cry and auto-sabotage
Absolutely this.
My only complaint is world buffs are going to be tedious. Idk how I'd fix that. Idk that there's a better way. But "having to" collect all of these buffs twice a week doesn't sound great. I'll still do it. Just feels like 1+ hours a week I could spend doing something else.
It's like a commute @@belavet
It probably would have helped if Phase 3 didn't last as long as it did.
They should make it you can buy a world buff for 10g ea from vendor
You just described the WoW community as accurately as anyone could
Sunshine on Reddit suggested selling full buffed chrono boons for the new dungeons currency.
This... sounds incredible, actually. Keeps dungeons relevant forever. Dunno how you handle the buffs that you choose like DMF though.
@@belavet80% take the 10% dmg buff, you could just start there.
I was thinking about the same thing. Sell a pre-charged chrono boon will be a painless solution to the world buff. Or instead of pre-charged, let player deposit their chrono boon once and use currency to make copy of it. So it'll be customized and unique to each player, in a way.
I'd definitely take that. Awesome idea
Really good idea
World buffs simply need to removed at this point. They're being used outside of their original intention and the fact they had to implement an item that makes it so you basically always have them makes them redundent. They trvialized a lot of content in original Classic and the end game of SoD just being people running around getting world buffs make this utterly boring
They trivialize the content for the better. Nobody actually wants “hard” classic content. They tried to make raids harder in season of mastery and nobody wanted to play it lol.
The boons were invented so u could continue to play the game on your character and not lose the w buffs??
5 min boon cd better not mean the meta will be unboon & reboon after each boss...
Thats exactly what i thought when I heard it......
Why not just make it 30 min cd instead of 1 hour
It likely will be for parsing/speed kill guilds.
@@kengxi a WB last for 1-2 hours and if you cant complete the raid in less than 1 hour as a speed kill guild. You have already failed before even started.
@@RandySnarsh Speed kills and speed runs are not the same thing.
100% need a rune catch up vendor for alts, the thought of doing them all is awful.
seriously man... I knew that shit was going to get annoying since phase 1
Just do it while leveling make a couple easier for sure though, maybe make them less intensive? Dark rider should be hella gone tho
@@justinperry8445dark rider is so easy to solo for any class.
@@NickPlays95 it is easy yes ofc, but a hassel
This is why I only play one character. Do things once and I'm all set
They should remove the wbuffs, Its such a hassle and annoyance,
The main reason I don't play is world buffs. Maybe, I'm out of touch
Im such a classic andy, but i HATE world buffs.
@@Followthehamthen u arent lol
@@Muranightwdym lol, just because i dont like WBs doesnt mean i havent played wow since it came out and classic is the only good thing. Im all in for classic bby besides WBs.
Just give alternate ways of acquiring them. Someone in the thread mentioned doing full buffed boons as a reward for dungeon currency. Keeps dungeons relevant "forever" and doesn't require using half a dozen summoning bots twice a week.
I can practically hear the gold farmers and gold sellers licking their chops over tier gear pieces costing a bunch of gold. I just hope that Phase 4 is fun for the people who enjoy this type of Classic content. Thumbs up!
Can't believe new phase doesn't auto level my character while i pHub and run dungeons for me. Insane. I'm crying bout it hard
Still think it funny how World Buffs like atomize people. 😂
Like if you got rekt by that, imo you need to stop playing elfen ring and go have fun in your life.
And plag Skyrim abd just go, fun.
Guys what will get the easiest raid invites ? Paladin, priest or warrior ? In phase 4.
Season of "Discovery" died with P2, when interesting new stuff stopped like new specs and interesting runes easy enough to find through individual discovery ceased come in. Instead, Blizzard brilliantly decided "Let's add more of the same, and repeat all the shit that made WoW an increasingly repetitive, toxic and unfun game over the years."
WoW team makes me think that they can only create good gameplay by mistake, and they "correct" it by doing the "right things" they can't or refuse to unlearn.
Every single wow video I watch I stray further and further away from ever playing it again.
Its just such a terrible game, terrible playerbase, on top of that cringe story and ultra cringe company behind it.
Ye its a game for parents and old people now, for shame
We asked for other specs to be viable, get rid of tedious grinds, and introduce some quality of life changes. What we got is a retail version of classic with minimal quality of life changes. Glad i stoped playing this trash after phase 1. Had my fun and got out before Blizz wasted my time.
Last boss needs to drop a new fully buffed chronoboon for each raid member.
I’ll be hoping back into sod It will be refreshing to attune for Mc and ony and it will be fun to get the new set variants definitely getting my shaman ele set and my warrior
True shame blizz and the community killed sod. Such a trash version of wow
Go play your soon to be killed turtle wow. No one wants you in WoW at all. I'm sure you aren't wanted there either though.
it seems lackluster tbh
meh took way too long. guild disbanded already and don’t wanna find a new one.
Well tbh I‘m disappointed as well…I‘m back to the waiting room and wait for a proper Classic+.
In the meantime I‘m playing Turtle WoW whenever I get the itch and eagerly await Turtle WoW 2.0 (supposed to drop the news on 07.07.2024)
I heard Deviate Delight is popping off but haven't played it myself
"Proper clsssic+"
@@danev8569 nice:) good to see. I just played normal Vanilla for so long…I really hope for a Classic+. So many original unfinished zones and content
I will play phase 4. But I'm a bit gutted the game has moved away from the more casual feeling of phase 1. I think moving away from 10 man raids has hurt the more casual playerbase, as well as the content "drought" as it were, has killed off most casuals leaving behind the more hard-core players. The fact that logs are needed for any raid now is just a big turn off for any casual.
How did you manage to say so little for 14 minutes of talking
It's cringe, just like the whole season.
Really not a fan of scaling raids. It may seem silly but just the fact that the button to change difficulty exists removes A LOT of the emerson for me and just reminds me that I am in fact playing a video game
Dude you gotta shorten the sponsor reads that was nuts...
im confused is none of the raids are every 3 days, why did they say they are?
Excited for phase 4. I do think they released phase 3 too fast. And now phase 4 too late. But phase 4 looks kind of awesome.
You can't have it both ways. P2 was released in Feb and 3 in April so two months. With that you have 3 months for P3 to P4. So where is your happy spot, 2 months 4 days?
p4 150k users max and sfor a short time, SOD is done.
There is no other new version of Vanilla, so no.
SoD will stay alive thru all phases.
@@thareus20 Ye alive for a short while before closing, but with low online, most people allready lost interest on it.
late and inaccurate
No thanks to world buffs. Gold given to friends who do enjoy them, and i uninstalled SoD. Consumes are annoying enough. Don't have time to farm hours for gold and now buffs every week on a seasonal server. Gonna just play through dawntrail i guess till TWW. Shame, this and cata was great while it lasted.
looks like a sweatlord phase...
If you are going for realm first, yes.
Otherwise, if you just want to play casually and parse 95+, not that hard.
Cannot say for PvP ranking. Looks like it won't be too difficult.
@@thareus20 pugging will be a nightmare.
@@thareus20 play casually and parse 95+? Is that casual for you?
@@MrWiggles00706why?
Dont you have Pre Raid BiS with all Worldbuffs and High end consumables?
On hour 1 on Raid release?😂
@uvveshlurvvesh6515 it's a reality lmao
On topic of WB's, I personally prefer no WB's, but, here's a suggestion: mabe make a quest that completes at the kill of the end boss of a raid that rewards an item that you can use with a 24hr CD that provides the equivalent of world buffs for 2hrs. Maybe stagger them, Get Ony buff item for killing Ony, etc, for example. I would prefer no WB meta but it might be a compromise to make it not so cancerous/tedious while still preserving that classic feel of 'your first attempt is your best attempt' which I do recognize as part of what makes classic's end game what it is.
Sounds pretty boring tbh.
God do i just not care anymore.
phase 4 pvp will be dead x2 mc,only,blw and world bosses a week and rank 10 right after launch and with the pvp gear being left behind the pve gear getting updates pvp is dead.
sod wo;; be dead after the first month of release its not worth it for me to come back.
What if World Buffs was a toggle in raid that guild members could collect and the raid leader can activate in raid?
Same interface as ICC, but only available if you have raid members who have completed the quests.
And they persist through death while in the instance.
Your anti world buff retoric is getting tired. You've highlighted them excessively on any classic content like a dog with a bone. Contact anyone with a pro WB stance and try evolve this stagnant stance you have. There are a laundry list of positives.
Remove world buffs or have a limit of 1 World buff at a time.. only reason why i stopped playing classic is because of the abuse of World buff and that you must have em in every raid because of the sweatlords..
Why are you nerds still supporting SoD lol?
I see you commenting on almost every SoD video just hating.
@@Harrison_Smith_HOF_Truther I’m sorry am I wrong?
i think we need LESS world buff, not more
wouldn't say spending 2 hours collecting buffs before every raid is good gameplay
I really hope we get a TBC era server once this shit show of a season is done
Smaller World
Flying Mounts making the Smaller World Smaller
Quest Areas are Small
Arena makes PVPing into "Arena of Warcraft" instead of "World" (Garbage)
Resilience gear makes doing anything other than "Arena" dead
Whole old world is removed.
World of straightline/no adventure craft.
Yeah great... Lets do Tbc... Not...
I CBA doing 0.5 questline again I might just cross my fingers and hope for tier 1
Season of OMG shaman hits too hard. Brush up your game fellas.
Yeah, it’s huge-ly DISAPPOINTING.
these bosses will be tuned for 20 players but can be attempted with up to fourteen
they should have just made world buff timers tick down while logged out
i wonder what the AV meta is gonna be, i feel likes its just gonna be allaince rushing south and bubble pulling van
I have a strong feeling the Horde will dominate AV. Ele shams will be stopping all in their track at the choke point after Field of Strife. They simply put down earth bind totems which now roots people in place, and simply unload their lava bursts and chain lightnings. Only paladins will have shot at getting past, and rogues and druids in stealth
I would play SOD only if its the last version of WOW available, no thxxxx
Amazing news for PvP 😂😂😂 so glad I quit lol😂
There is an army of "i quit sod in p1" but then again here you are posting on a sod video 5 mins after its release
Well I follow WillE since his videos in 2019…so ofc it‘s on my YT frontpage naturally. just because I quit SoD doesn’t mean I‘ll unfollow him.
I quit in phase 2 I still clicked what's your point?
and to add I still love WoW. So ofc I‘ll watch stuff about it. And I loved SoD P1. Just because people watch stuff from a content creator they like doesn’t mean they play it.
Based
I quit after classic, but I still follow! Couldn't keep up getting raid buffs and my job, so I quit before naxx
What about UBRS and LBRS.. they were basically just 10 mans.
Put a quest for each world buff in the game, it's repeatable and takes place where you can normally get said world buff. Then put an NPC in the game at Stormwind and Ogrimar where turning in the reward for the repeatable quest causes that World Buff to be cast over the entire city like Rallying Cry of the Dragon Slayer. All World Buffs have the same time duration too.
Uppside to WB’s:
- Players get a ”fun” power spike and big numbers.
- Blizzard can make up for bad class balance.
- Collecting them could be fun and thrilling IF you remove the chronoboon (even if that makes it so that you have to raidlog).
Downsides of WB’s:
- Weekly tedious chore that gives 0 dopamines and basically only cost time and/or gold for summon and a cleared instance. So you might aswell be able to buy them from a vendor.
- Makes deaths and wipes unnecessarily punishing for everyone. Imagine if you could just rebuff and still be able to do good parses after a wipe…
- Makes content far to easy and borring since everything has to be tuned for a raid without WB’s.
- Creates a toxic community where even the casuals are forced to put in several hours of gameplay just to be able to join a PUG.
Im 100% sure that if they removed the effect of WB’s from raids it would do NOTHING bad for the community.
Huge disappointment that is
P4 looks nice. Let's see how it goes. Want to do big numbers on my Rogue.
I just can’t chase world buffs, that is the main reason I won’t be playing SoD. They should just have a NPC distributing world buffs on a cooldown. I know it’s part of classic, but that’s why I won’t be playing. Have fun everyone!
SoD has been a huge disappointment for me personally, and looks like it will continue to be. It was marketed as Classic+ but it's fallen short and they are focusing on the wrong stuff imo. I really wanted a focus on adding new quests, questing areas in existing zones, bringing in the zones that were left out of vanilla, more new dungeons.
And what happens when you finish that content? New questing zones where do you put them on islands? Oh wait you mean the expansions??? lol
@@chessiecat7860 They don't need to be done the way the expansions did them. They could add grim batol as a quest hub or raid instead of a 5 man and have completely different bosses. Hyjal could be done completely differently too. They could add what Azuremist and Bloodmist isles were before the Draenei crashed and changed them. Or they could come up with more completely new content like the empty zones on the world map that are Impassable terrain currently, or the depths of timbermaw hold.
As for "what do you do after that content" we are playing an almost 20 year old game where the content has all been done over and over anyway. That isn't a good reason not to add more.
It was never marketed as Classic+. The stream like amoncuckgold pushed it as that. Meanwhile they don't play it and then cry it's shit.
@@classa21 Watch the hour long blizzcon reveal presentation on it and tell me again that it wasn't pushed as Classic+
@@porcu12345 It wasn't You and the streamers wanted it. The same ones at the time said well this isn't classic+ but I'll take it. They flat out said this was going to be a season of experimenting but I guess you can't understand that so they need to make it dumber for you. I t n o c l a s s i c +.
Shoulda kept all raids 10 man. It woulda had a chance.
Genuine question. Ppl still play SoD? My entire friends group like 12 ppl i know irl all started p1 together. I quit in P2 and the last stragglers quit beginning of phase 3 with no talk of returning. I can imagine we are not unique in this feeling. None of these 'features' are giving me the urge to play again. its just another treadmill
i fucking hate world buff, it's so bad
So they are giving warriors a version of Dragonslayer from a spellbook. Why not give other classes castable world buff spellbooks and stop all the needless running around. Maybe make the book drop off the content that provides it. Warrior book drops from Onyxia. Maybe the Rend buff drop from him for both shamans and paladin. Have the ZG buff drop for Cloth casters to learn. The different DM buffs could drop for Hunters Rogues. Maybe druids provide Songflower. Could make them have fairly long cds so if you lose them you cant just rebuff immediately....or not. It is SoD after all.
Sod died to me once the integrity was ruined. Skipped s3 so makes it that much less likey to return unless everyone started from scratch.
Phase 4 what s joke😅 blizzard and the clowns
i Hope Blizz bring us the Old alterac back ... this Rushing to the Endboss is the biggest BS ever existed.
1 set for each spec and class lol? I'm sure the dev team will spend plenty of time balancing it... not.
I would love for them to just remove all world buffs. I have said this since classic re-released in 2019
I wanna check this out, I played the other phases but fuck TWW is so soon whose got time for the mess that is SOD
I don't get why people like SoD. It's exactly what is wrong with the gaming industry. Homogenization. Now everyone can tank or heal or whatever. It's stupid.
Personally I find WB ruin the game. Having it basically be a requirement for raiding especially prog but then when on farm for faster clears.
Then the moment you die or heaven forbid the raid dies. Moral is completely shot and you have nothing but pissy dads complaining about how long things take to die and how their parse is fucked.
I just don't see how this fosters a good culture. But that's just my experience and opinion on it. I get why people like to see the power of their character go up as well as their dps/heal output.
Finally! Some HIDDEN stuff, where everything is just known right as the patch notes drop has been super annoying for many many years now
all i want is vanilla with more content...
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*With an expanded Free-trial which you can play through the entirety of the Heavensward,*
*and the Stormblood Expansions up to level 70 for FREE with no restrictions on playtime.*
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Druid T0,5 is still bugged and has it's shoulders positioned wrongly on the left side of the character... I reported the bug for 6 years and the bug still persists. Damn, that is bad :(
Male Undead have floating shoulders, Male and Female have way 2 Big heads Wearing a full helmet 😅
Glad it’s 1 week lockout for MC now, I’m fine with no world buffs
Season of mastery came too soon. With sod dps theres no reason to keep world buffs.
I think phase 3 killed sod for me
I was pretty excited about twice a week MC. I imagine doing one lockout one high heat and one on low heat to catch up alts and less geared players.
As far as world buffs. Let's just do one per phase, from the level up raid.
40 man raiding was one of my favorite parts of classic. -_-
They should make it so you can buy world buffs from a vendor for 10g or 20g each. That way it will be a good gold sink for economy and give people option to get it manually and spend time or spend gold as alternative
This would take everyone out of the world. It eould become like retail or cata where eventually everyone just sits in the major city until raid time.
World buffs are a great way to keep people in other zones, it makes them relevant
Haha u gotta be kidding 😂
just add some gambling mini games if you want gold sinks
No thank you. Only people making bank would consider getting them long term, not everybody has thousands of gold to go around
Turtle WoW 2.0 in Unreal engine confirmed ❤
the real Classic+
Dawntrail just dropped. Fuck this failed experiment.
I would start over for p4 but I don’t want to spend ages collecting all runes.
first! lookin forward to all the new content in P4!
So MC and onyxia will be 1 per week wtf
Is it worth rejoining if you never got to level 35? The rmt players vs devs through my gold in the dumps. What's the community's opinion?
You can easily get to cap and get geared in ST before p4 release so yea why not
The current meta for leveling is incursions and those give pretty good gold and very good exp. That said, it's caused some serious inflation. Will be interesting to see how things settle. I think a lot of people are sitting on tons of mats and the pricing we are seeing isn't really moving right now. I simply can't imagine arcane crystals holding at 100+ gold a piece, for example.
I'd consider playing a class/spec that doesn't have a ton of expensive consumes. At the end of the day, that's where your money goes. Outside of that you have the mount gold sink and I guess the tier 0 gold sink, and of course a small gold sink with naxx, but it remains to be seen when that is happening.
not playing this shit
If only we didn't waste months and months playing low level content with half baked characters.
bro can barely talk
You lost me at the ad instantly at your video
Do you get paid by Blizzard?
It’s a shame the rampant bots and gold farmers have ruined sod for me. I’d love to play but gold having no value kills it for me
thats every version of wow lmao
Yawn.
G
They should just make the world buffs like priest meditations, that you can just pass them around to anyone you want
No. World buffs is the only way to keep the world relevant, cata and retail are proof of this - everyone just sits in major city
@@bigtimedrinking4233people go out to farm mats, cata has flying, retail takes place in a new continent every time so the old world always feels empty.
World buffs are not needed now that every class is much more powerful.
Season of Destroying Alts..
classic wasnt about alts
Season of bitching and whining
@@goskawow1943nobody said classic was. But devs have said multiple times they want season of discovery to be alt friendly. It's a fair criticism...
season of going outside and unsubscribing
The entire point of sod was too add stuff to classic. It was my understanding that vanilla had the most replayability. All old methods still work. Just do those sense you are a classic player right......?
Ubless the changes arw "you dont have to spend 6 hours walking across continents for one skill anymore" idc tbh
Nothing took 6 hours
Bro meant actual RP walking @@koffin522
@@koffin522 its called exaggerating you dunce. doing one of the paladin rune quests had you walk to one end of darkshore, just getting there takes like what an hour? Then has you walk all the way to darkshore, only to sen you back to stormwind on the other continent, and then sends u back to ashenvale eventually if i remember right. What would you call that? Seems like a huge fuckin waste of my time if u ask me.
@@koffin522allow me to introduce you to hyperbole, fellow traveler.
@@belavet no I don't like strangers
welcome to Season of Retail
Dmg done now most give up
I heard shaman got nerfed
Should be able to get a currency from doing dungeons to buy world buffs inside the raid …..
The world buffs alone just turns me off the game