Why Lu Xiaojun is Still The Best!?

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  • @clarence0
    @clarence0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    1: Sarms
    2: Sarms
    3: Sarms
    4: Sarms
    5: he squat jerks

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      All I'm seeing is number 5

    • @OnkelTomAngelriper
      @OnkelTomAngelriper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      sarms are fucking worthless and more detectable than steroids

    • @ak205
      @ak205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you guys should record a session together - sika, not Lu (although that would be cool if you could! lol)

    • @MrDragonkarp
      @MrDragonkarp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Squat Jerks FTW

    • @Asianpride2142
      @Asianpride2142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      lmaoo this guy. complains about others cuz he can't cut it

  • @plantybara
    @plantybara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    One of the most underrated weightlifting channels out there.

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much for the compliment ☺️

    • @Alekeser
      @Alekeser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true

  • @AfferbeckBeats
    @AfferbeckBeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I remember him saying he would keep competing til someone outclassed him. Funnily enough there were quite a few near his level before he said that (Su Dajin, Lu Haojie, Zhong Guoshun...) but not many since. Quite a few guys like Su Ying who just weren't on Lu's level. Lu Delin is the new Rybakou, he can snatch with Lu Xiaojun, but clean and jerks 10 or 20kg less. Li Dayin is the one guy at the same level and if Lu finally allows himself to retire, Dayin will take the crown.

    • @nandakasry739
      @nandakasry739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Funny enough, I recall Su Dajin actually squat jerking 209 in a National games meet (IIRC that's higher than anything's Lu hit internationally, but his snatch doesn't compare) and there's footage of him C&J'ing mid 210's in training. Tremendous amounts of leg strength, especially given that on every maximal 3rd attempt C&J he always has to take a moment to prevent his front-rack from collapsing at the bottom. Li Dayin is probably the guy that's brought the complete package as far as competing with the likes of Lu in terms of both lifts, and is indeed next in line (whenever Lu decides to retire lol).
      I was rooting for Lu Haojie tbh, his snatch was there and C&J wasn't as far from Xiaojun like Delin is right now. He had a gutsy 2012 Olympics and was unfortunately riddled by too many injuries. I think he's gone into coaching now? Not sure. In retrospect Lu's competition domestically is a lot more than some of the other lifters in the national team at the moment (compared to someone like Shi Zhiyong, Deng Wei, Tian Tao, Liao Hui back in the day, however the Chinese women's from 49-55 is an absolute bloodbath). Probably contributed some part of how he's still able to keep going for so long as the guys have mentioned.

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Lu Haojie is a name that just dissappeared! I think it's clear that Li Dayin has a lot more in reserve and it's only a matter of time once this Olympics is done that we see from numbers in excess of what Lu Xiaojun has or will hit.

  • @N0RRec
    @N0RRec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I spent 4 months in Ireland a couple of years ago and made some friends due to weightlifting. I love listening to your videos just for the accent, brings back good memories

  • @thecrystaltide3757
    @thecrystaltide3757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Eoin: Lu is the most aesthetic lifter
    Gabe: [cries in dadbod]

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Haha BUT I much prefer Gabe's tekkers 😂

  • @billh6010
    @billh6010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think the 1st main reason is the darwinian style talent scouting system in China for this particular sport. Lu is literally the best of the best genetically speaking for this particular sports. And of course followed by strict training regiments and some anabolic rice 😂

    • @mrt445
      @mrt445 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can't forget the anabolic rice

  • @georgecarder4695
    @georgecarder4695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You noted that it was suss with respect to doping when Lu added ~30kg to his lifts when with a certain coach, but you also say that Sika strength program has seen 45kg prs with your lifters.
    hm...

  • @lolololalala8225
    @lolololalala8225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I see a lot of bodybuilders on youtube explaining their results by saying they have elite genetics.. And they dont..
    But Lu has these insane genetics for powerlifting..

    • @Emil-sh6sq
      @Emil-sh6sq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They can have elite genetics for building muscle / aesthetics. If you’ve built a career on your body you probably have fairly good genetics. Lu has elite genetics for weightlifting.

    • @thepeatboggy
      @thepeatboggy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big part of the “genetics” part is how strongly your body reacts to performance enhancing drugs

  • @nandakasry739
    @nandakasry739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    PED's can't be overstated, which inevitably plays a part into just about everything in regards to Lu (technique, longevity, etc), easier to do ClOSe FasT LoW TimINg StAbLe when every clean is seemingly submaximal and you have quite the strength surplus in the legs and the upper body to move the bar like he does (and squat jerk of all things). IIRC Lu moved up to 77kg from the 69kg class under his coaches' (Yu Jie?) advice because he kept getting hurt and had a lot of nagging ligament/joint issues. I think he ended up doing 158/188 in the 2008 Asians and afterwards had an injury that inspired the LuxiaojunBarbell guys to making that somewhat misleading "wowee 60kg in two months!" post (came back to do 160/190 at Chinese Nationals in 2009). I figured that they misspoke, but I think another interesting jump in total is the 350 at Nationals, then later that year 373 at the National Games, and a month later the 378 WR total later at Worlds). That's a pretty quick turnaround.
    And thanks for pointing out those tidbits in regards to what Chinese weightlifting actually is. There's often a lot of mysticism ('secrets', allegedly) and people tend to get infatuated this nationalisation of technique when in reality it's not all that different with the exception of certain quirks and queues as y'all mentioned. Although this reality doesn't exactly get IG followers or sell $$$ for certain people that seemingly invent new 'innovative' exercises or queues every other week.

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great points! It's important we don't rag on other coaches as we sell and coach too so it often comes off as slander but everyone does the same thing!
      Snatch, C&J, Pull and Squat.
      Some minor differences in technique but mostly because it's an anatomical influence on the athletes lifting aesthetics but bar paths are similar.
      Good coaches are good coaches, they're are no secrets.
      Ultimately I would like to point out we don't every learn anything of the actual loading patterns of their system just good old fashioned technique drills.

    • @nandakasry739
      @nandakasry739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed! Yeah we don't really know really anything about loading patterns or too much of their system really aside from technique drills (and a ton of miscellaneous bodybuilding accessories apparently), a lot of which are (as was alluded in the video) taken from various sources (Soviet, etc, whatever gets the job done for the particular athlete). I've seen the likes of Li Dayin do a ton of flat-footed pulls, Yuan Chengfei doing Soviet-esque drills for moving the feet out (onto plates/ elevated riser), and as of recently more hang/block-work from various national-level athletes that was previously unseen.
      Maybe with the increase of popularity of their athletes in Western social media we'll see more footages from various outlets/gyms/coaches. I think in general more Eastern/Asian countries are starting to get noticed on social-media, I know athletes from my own country (Indonesia) are starting to post streams/footages from amateur, provincial level, national-level test events and their own personal training on TH-cam. Lee Sang from S. Korea posts a lot in his channel where he interviews fellow athletes ( I believe it's Seo Huiyeop, one of their international level 109s) and talks about his training a -lot-. There's footages of national-level comps from Japan (one where Toshiki Karapetyan'd his right elbow in 2012 as a 77kg).
      All in all, great stuff as usual. On a lighter note, you can probably chalk up "farmer strength" as point #6 why Lu is still the best. Someone else in the comments referred to a translated CCTV interview (w/ Lu and his mom) posted on ATG's website and I think Lu's mom mentioned he was single-handedly carrying 90kg bags of soybeans around as a kid weighing 60kg or something lmfao.

    • @AfferbeckBeats
      @AfferbeckBeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nandakasry739 There's actually a lot more in depth info about Chinese weightlifting out there than you might think. Like I've seen actual individual programs for a bunch of youths with notes added by the coach about things each lifter needs to work on. The Chinese are really not secretive and all the instagram lifters from like 3-7 years ago who went and trained there all got candid info straight from coaches and athletes. Problem is everyone gets hype over the national team which is a lot harder to get access to. When everyone should really be paying attention to the beginner youths learning their technique, and the provincial training halls with juniors and seniors putting in the work to become the next star for casual weightlifting fans to scroll past on social media.

    • @nandakasry739
      @nandakasry739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AfferbeckBeats I don't disagree at all. There are sources out in instagram/various social media accounts of schools started by former national athletes/coaches, various people that went to training camps etc for information straight from their coaches and former athletes (I think I've seen footage of Deng Mengrong coaching some peeps?). I've seen workouts. sample weeks for more senior provincial athletes, youth programs of which you speak of. There's probably way more content on Weibo/Chinese social media accounts as well (AFAIK there was a time Wu Jingbiao was doing some form checks or some sort of talk about technique?)
      I was really just referring to some people in social media that imply that there are such 'secrets' and deliberately try to hype/mislead people in order to further their own agenda/business (said people's coaching abilities I can't speak of, I can only somewhat criticize how they do their marketing even though pragmatically it makes sense). People more closely associated to the source (the likes of Shenzhen, Wu Jingbiao, Sanmin) that have actual ties to the national team (from having coached current athletes, being former athletes themselves in the national team i.e Wu, Cao Gang, Su Dajin, Su Ying, other international & national-level lifters) tend to give out sound information (some of which you have to put into context to the how they do things or their perception of other techniques for example but generally good nonetheless). Some other western sources on Chinese WL like PapaYats/Austin Barbell does have some good content, but its clear they has their biases so you have to take that into account. If their coaching works, then by all means.
      And yes, people get really hype over the national team (for obvious reasons) and try to copy particular things that each athlete does (not saying there aren't things to take away, it's just hard to be objective). Obviously this won't work (the same if you looked at someone like Ehab, Martirosyan, Dimas, and tried to copy particular eccentricities from their technique or routines that they favor). These guys are the few that have been whittled down from many many lifters, and even amongst the Chinese there's athletes that in many respects technically superior but just aren't strong enough to cut it into the national team. And as you say, youth/beginner/provincial level lifters are probably better to watch in terms of training to get an idea of what to work on. People shouldn't just randomly start doing speed pulls just because they saw it on Instagram (high pull with rebend, panda pull whatever you call it) as a beginner before working through the actual pull progression as they are prescribed to the youth athletes themselves and understanding what its meant to address (and even if you aren't a beginner it's not necessarily for everyone).

    • @danielhenderson762
      @danielhenderson762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AfferbeckBeats looking at a postit of an athletes squat numbers (which I have seen too) that day is not same as getting insight to their loading pattern

  • @andrew98115wl
    @andrew98115wl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impeccable smooth technique which has kept him mostly injury free and he's strong in all the positions.

  • @albinsunny6493
    @albinsunny6493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ready good video guys!!

  • @caouse3542
    @caouse3542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Deca and Avonmore protein milk

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Shhhhhh don't let the secret out 🤐

    • @philipcoleman4183
      @philipcoleman4183 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Irish Farmers Doping Cows!!

    • @jayuppercase3398
      @jayuppercase3398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@philipcoleman4183 you milk the Bulls instead of the cows, extra chewy milk make you grow strong

    • @philipcoleman4183
      @philipcoleman4183 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayuppercase3398 I can taste the testosterone

    • @makaan699
      @makaan699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jayuppercase3398 You invented divine protein shake before it was even a thing.

  • @HM-qe9pd
    @HM-qe9pd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Fingers crossed Rahimov from 2016 Rio gets popped, in what was one of the most obviously doped athletes in recent memory

    • @xdavidliu
      @xdavidliu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's only gonna be a matter of time bro

    • @joshuayounan
      @joshuayounan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welp news says he gonna lose that medal now

    • @HM-qe9pd
      @HM-qe9pd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshuayounan yeah boy

    • @joshuayounan
      @joshuayounan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HM-qe9pd lu for 3 golds now hahah

    • @oboyy
      @oboyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You realize Lu id equally doped right? If not more so…

  • @kicknitoldskool
    @kicknitoldskool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beast, seeing him perform this year was great too. Tell us more about his uhhh anatomy... ahem ahem

  • @andrewconroy9588
    @andrewconroy9588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos lads

  • @bmxisgoodforyou
    @bmxisgoodforyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for making this vid, very interesting stuff!

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching and taking a second to comment 🙏

  • @HM-qe9pd
    @HM-qe9pd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Genetic of gods, the best drugs the world has to offer, and the anabolic rice

  • @TheVintageGamer
    @TheVintageGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hes got technique and just strength... he's super short too... not too sure if everyone notices but he has a bit shorter arms and legs than probably the percentile avg of the pop. AND he lifts outta China, they raise these athletes from the crib. No whining or maintenance days!

  • @HkFinn83
    @HkFinn83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:44 his limbs look insanely short. His arms look six inches shorter than some people of similar height. This has to be a massive mechanical advantage in weightlifting.

  • @Mike-bt3ki
    @Mike-bt3ki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Chinese train different, so much heavy emphasis on back/front squats. They talk a lot about efficiency too, so I see why they squat jerk

  • @andrew98115wl
    @andrew98115wl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm inclined to disagree about the squat jerks you mentioned at the end. Maybe the smooth squat jerk style he has has kept his knees in good nick over the years. I would imagine doing split jerks has more impact on the knee joints?

  • @0wninguplz
    @0wninguplz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The GOAT

  • @ConnRDR20
    @ConnRDR20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    3 words - straw. berry. jam.

  • @trtnec
    @trtnec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    21:07 "looking at a country that's had as many positive tests as China". Uh, China's had just one male doping violation in two decades, Liao Hui, and like two women in the past decade. I'm sure there is some sort of a doping system there, but that was an inaccurate implication. It's not comparable to the outrageous numbers of doping violations and openly documented doping systems like in the Soviet countries.

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You're right, it's only outrageous if you get caught 😏
      That was tongue in cheek by me and that was a mistake by Daire for sure however look realistically it's an almost certainty that they have a superb state sponsored state doping program. Due to the nature of china however its unlikely we'll ever see a major exposure bar that doctor who came out a few years ago.

    • @trtnec
      @trtnec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sikastrength yeah as I said I don't disagree that they dope and have some sort of a doping protocol. I just find it odd that if they really had this massive, intricate conspiracy going on that they'd let Liao Hui, one of the greatest lifters ever, get popped, along with a 2008 gold medalist (forgot who). Or there's probably just nuances to it I'm not aware of.

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So interesting story about that one was back in 2011 the story going around the training hall at worlds was that after the 08 Olympics Chinese weightlifting's funding was cut so they had no money to pay any bribes / make the positive go away so Hui was popped as punishment. No way of verifying of course but weightlifting is and was a pretty small world especially then, so it's likely the story was true or close enough.

    • @trtnec
      @trtnec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sikastrength interesting, I wonder how many similar stories there are for the other nations that get popped like crazy, and the other biggest names like Lasha/Kashirina/Toma etc. who got popped. Appreciate this content and keep it up

    • @Kiido11
      @Kiido11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm reading this a few months late, but these rumours are absolutely fascinating. Way better than spy novels & movies lol.

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    People talking about esports are really stuck with 30 = immediate death. They simply can't believe that everything doesn't happen overnight, that your reflexes won't be all or nothing for the games and won't go from 120% to -20% when you turn 30.

  • @twistedv0id
    @twistedv0id 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kinda weird... putting a picture of a fridge in the top right of the video... Odd

  • @WilliamsWrestlin
    @WilliamsWrestlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's so jacked.

  • @xdavidliu
    @xdavidliu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    14:39 Eoin why do you say Lu's best CJ is closer to 220? How certain are you of that? I know he's done close to 210 in comp, but even in his prime he alway hovered in the 203-205 range most of the time. Being close to 220 would be a massive jump, no?

    • @henry_g_s
      @henry_g_s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In training, is what Eoin means. Most athletes have lifted much more in training than their competition best. For example Shi Zhiyong has done roughly 210 in training despite his world record being around 199-200.

  • @upinarms5752
    @upinarms5752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fair bit of trap development there ? who knows .

  • @gummybear4344
    @gummybear4344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this released April 1st?

  • @DylanFulbright
    @DylanFulbright 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the algorithm!!

  • @AB-oy1ly
    @AB-oy1ly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you never said anything about Clarence Kennedy takin PEDs

    • @petersoar2886
      @petersoar2886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would be a very short video

  • @trojon
    @trojon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There isn't a single athlete in Olympic weightlifting that isn't on gear...

  • @MrVitconst
    @MrVitconst 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the East Asians are the best in weightlifting?

  • @dfpguitar
    @dfpguitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was never surprised by Lu's maintaining of competitivity. What I have been surprised by is China choosing him to represent the absolutely stacked talent pool of 77kg-81kg lifters in China.
    In each year during his career there have been other lifters who can hit the same numbers as him and sometimes higher even.

  • @getstrongby4038
    @getstrongby4038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this guy is the savickas of weightlifting?

    • @pneuuma366
      @pneuuma366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you mean the strongest? Then no thats lasha, but if you mean the goat then yes.

  • @andrew98115wl
    @andrew98115wl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also because 💰🇨🇳

  • @NOORKHAN0o
    @NOORKHAN0o 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe pyross dimas was the better version of lu Xiaojun and that’s saying something

    • @55cleon
      @55cleon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed👌🏿!

  • @C720L
    @C720L 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pog

  • @everydaybacksbroken2886
    @everydaybacksbroken2886 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruhhhhhhhh Lu is born squatting.

  • @yuuuuzhang
    @yuuuuzhang 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comment on Lu been a hero in China : who is he again?

  • @IgnatiusCheese
    @IgnatiusCheese 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No IM the best Sika (Chip Chipperson voice)

  • @asdfkjhlk34
    @asdfkjhlk34 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Short femurs

  • @piscator2813
    @piscator2813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lu is not a super star in China at all. Weightlifters aren’t popular athletes in China, or anywhere really.
    He has a lot more western fans than Chinese fans.

    • @sonhuynh943
      @sonhuynh943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the sport itself is not popular and well paid. But in China, you mention weightlifting, you're calling his name Lu Xiaojun.

    • @lutherschultz4725
      @lutherschultz4725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sonhuynh943 nah in China no one knows his name, if you asked 100 random people on the street I'd be surprised if even 1 of them have heard of Lu, it's a shame really, Lu is a phenomenal athlete he deserves a lot more fame.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeh these guys are just a digit in a medals tally ultimately. If it ever leaves the Olympics a weightlifting will be...very different

    • @piscator2813
      @piscator2813 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HkFinn83 they are paid handsomely, I wouldn’t call them digits.

  • @KhanBalkan
    @KhanBalkan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roids

  • @alexmc7798
    @alexmc7798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CCP: ‘stay motivated and succeed or your family gets fed to pigs.’
    Lu: ‘lesssssssgggoooooo!’

  • @maxrockatansky3896
    @maxrockatansky3896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How...drugs and good coaching

    • @tako2159
      @tako2159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's one Sour grape idiot.....you think those drug testers officers are dumb ? Chinese face highest number of drug tests .....

    • @maxrockatansky3896
      @maxrockatansky3896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tako2159 bro the vast majority of athletes in the sport are on gear. Some pop some get by. I'm not singling out just the Chinese here nor taking away the work and skill they put in. For example, there's a video of Lu saying he went up 60kg in his total when he started lifting with the national team...in 2 months. if you actually trained in this sport you'd know that's literally impossible to do in 2 months, it's physiologically impossible without pharmacology. If you believe, what Lu said is achievable with sleep, diet, and hard work in 8 weeks then I'd implore you to "try it out", lift for 8 months get all your beginners gains then try to go up 60kg in your total in 2 months. Sorry bro but there is drug use on that Chinese team, like most other teams. ✌️