After watching these two gentlemen's shoe reviews, I immediately became a big fan of their experience and healthy critics of their objectives. Honest and impartial. I enjoyed you both insightful and in-depth knowledge. Great video!!!
I know you guys said you don't know much about sprint cycling. I don't really know a lot either. My old performance coach was a Sprint cyclist at the highest levels way back in the day. He was not in competition shape anymore, but he was a huge man. He would tell me that a Sprint cycling race felt like dumping gasoline all over yourself and then lighting it on fire. That always stuck with me. Squatting really heavy makes a person feel like they are going to die. Lol It gets easier with practice, but I can see why that would help with sprint cycling. Also, having a strong upper body is important for rocking the bike and locomotion. Great video as always guys. Cheers
There are loads of sprint cyclists that are huge and loads of them recognise that weights are very important But there are also loads who just aim to be as light as possible Power to weight is pretty much everything in cycling
Ski Racer here, we share nearly the same athletic needs as sprint cyclists other than also needing lateral foot speed. Once you push out of the start gate your upper body muscle is nearly useless other than core strength and balance. The stronger you are the more you can flex your skis and generate energy between turns to keep accelerating. The stronger you are also allows for stiffer skis which give far better performance than softer skis.
Interesting video! I actually started following your weightlifting channels (clarence 0 included) to train aside cycling! In this milieu, it is said squat were invented by cyclist haha. François Pervis, who won gold medals (i don't think Robert F ever did) never went that heavy on squat. His coaching team was very much into velocity training however, if I recall correctly. :)
Just some notes, track cycling splits into two parts. Sprinting and endurance track cycling. Rob is extremely up there for sprint work. With his legs he can get on top of MASSIVE gearing
The reason his foot lifts up as he is reaching the bottom of the descent is purely ankle mobility due to the forward travel of the knees which occurs due to highbar. Nothing else.
This dude has a myostatin deficiency which causes him to put on muscle very quickly, it's a very very rare disease. I'd look into it. I don't doubt that he's actually natural
@@joebloggs6922 myostatin deficiency in humans in all the literature doesn’t do near as much as people think. If someone is untrained they will have more muscle naturally, but once they start training it kind of equals out and there isn’t much of a difference. Also depending on the polymorphism it might not even actually do anything. This dude certainly isn’t natural 100% of the year. With that said it doesn’t take anything away from him, and even if he does use gear and other PEDs the fact that he can’t blast during races makes his ability almost as impressive (and IMO mentally more impressive seeing as how he would be feeling like dog shit from being suppressed and feeling weak) as a natural athlete during races. The “drug tested doesn’t mean drug free” crowd assumes a lot without knowing much about gear. The fact that someone might have gotten away with running Anavar for 6 weeks while 6 months out of competition does not do anything compared to being able to blast through competition.
The idea of being able to pull up on the pedals has been debunked. It's valid at a low rpm/cadence but at a higher speed at best the hip flexors can lift the weight of the leg up. Its been shown that using the quad and glute to push down on the pedal and thus lift the opposite leg is more efficient. In terms of peak power attempting to lift up (unweighting the leg) could be beneficial. Having your feet solidly attached to the pedals would however allow greater activation of the hamstrings.
He’s extremely interesting, cause immediately if you were to look at his physique, legs especially, you would automatically assume doping. However its claimed he has a myostatin deficiency, and is one of those rare generic anomalies. That also seems to play in the amount of volume and weight he can handle.
Definitely an elite cyclist with a team sprint worlds title to his name but in the individual sprint the likes of Chris Hoy completely out shone him. Goes to show max strength in that specific area (though clearly a huge applicable factor to the sport) doesnt necessarily translate to gold medals. He was also unlucky being in that era as there were alot of good track sprinters Gregory Bauge(French), Theo Bos(Dutch) etc..
Chris Hoy puts ALOT more power to pedal than Robert based on what i've read. I think Hoy has peak power of 2500 watts while Robert's is around 2200watts.
Yeah, I guess the question is where does the power come from? Is it the gym specific work or the sport specific training? I know Chris Hoy attributes alot of his success to 1km time trial training. Essentially crazy interval efforts in really high gearing. Coupling that with what I could only guess as similar numbers in lifting as above would perhps be a starter to trying to understanding where his success comes from. Interesting stuff.
@@danielstones1 Yeah. I don't know a thing of Hoy's training. Is he just a genetical beast? Ability to produce power is mainly of leverages. I can deadlift around 250-260kg and squat 180-200kg (i'm short 170cm/80kg)... I can produce something like 1200watts on bike, which is perhaps 100 watts more than regular skinny but tall cyclists. Lanky underweight Tour De France sprint-specialists can put 1700 watts on their final sprint after riding 3 week Tour De France... Probably barely half squatting their body weight. So to me it seems that tall guys on bike generally are better at generating power. And Hoy seems to be tall guy when compared to Robert. So it could be just that which separates them, Robert's leverages not being sufficent. But i'm not expert on track as discipline. And i know that Robert considers himself to be good at start (he is often 1st of his team). So perhaps he has better ability to start moving, but top speeds aren't as good.
@@Second247 Hoy like Usain Bolt and others are freak athletes. They have a genetic advantage to a start with. On top of this they put in the work and sacrifice. Success is putting it all together with luck thrown in - not one thing. They usually have an excellent support systems. Unfortunately they also need to be so focused (selfish) that family relationships often get destroyed - seperation, divorce, harrasment, stalking, alcohol and drug abuse, domestic violence etc. Many have payed a high personal cost for their success. Jack Bobridge is now in jail for illegal drug dealing. Gary Neiwen has a long history of various alcohol and criminal offences, etc. Caleb Ewen and Anna Mers are divorced. Today track sprinting is a drag race. Because tracks today are super fast. They use 60T front chainrings and Its all go from start to finish. In the past it was common to use a 48T front chainring when tracks were concrete or bitumin. Therefore mind games (tactics) played a lot bigger part. Most riders are the same with top speed. Therefore the difference between riders often comes down to start time and low speed acceleration. For track sprinting Its mostly power to weigth and frontal area. For endurance cycling its the efficency at the various power to weigth ratios that are used. There are 2 types of mechanical advantage when cycling. There is force advantage which relates to the length of levers - how long. AND there is rotational advantage which relates to how short the levers are. The more force advantage there is the equally less rotation advantage. Also limb length may have varing muscle and tendon lengths. So a long limb may have a proportially short muscle and longer tendons etc. Therefore limb length cannot be used as a measure of cycling (running) performance. So average height body weigth sprint cyclists have an advantage over other body sizes. So the fastest sprint cyclists are usually around 5 foot 6 inches to 5 foot 9 inches. Anna Merers is 5 foot 5 inches. If you look at womens world class 100m & 200m track sprinting. Nearly every world class women sprinter is under 5 foot 6 inches. Surprisingly many are under 5 foot 2 inches with some of the big names UNDER 5 FOOT. With men Usain Bolt is very tall. Bolt has a very slow start because of his height. But makes up for it with near perfect form. Its technique, technique & technique - and maybe some drugs. Its not how much a track sprinter squats that matters. Its how much of the squat that gets onto the back wheel and onto the track. The modern form of weigth training for cycling is on the bike. Its not new because this was how it was done 50 years ago. Hoy used to put 40 kgm of weight on his training bike and ride it up hills. He then rode it up hill into the wind. Then he road it up hill into the wind with the brakes on. Weigtht training needs to be specific. Ryan Bayley won the 2004 Olympic sprint cycling gold medal. He squated half as much as other track cycling sprinters. Camilla Jetter 100m usa olympic runner was another athlete with a "weak" squat. Olympic sprint cycling (running) medals are not won by squating. They are won by winning a race on a bike (or foot). Its measured by TIME. It doesnt matter how much you can squat - if it doesnt end up on the track.
His squats are quality squats wich are always glute dominant! no matter how wide/narrow the feet are or if it's high bar, low bar or front squat. It's the neuromuscular activation pattern of the movement wich determines wich muscle regions are used more or less. Core tension and feet support plays a key role of course. This guys quad development are mostly from his sprint biking in the lactate zone for sure. His anatomy is built for squating too.
Chris is bigger guy, Perhaps 180cm, while Robert is perhaps something like 170cm. Huge difference on my experience when it comes to power production in cycling and one of the reasons why one can't simply go on saying that Robert is too strong: he is small so he might need way more strength to counter his weakness. Chris's peak power is much more than Robert can muster. i think it was in 2500w while Robert had 2200w.
A couple years ago I saw an article that talked about Robert having some sort of a myostatin deficiency. I’m not sure how likely this is, would love to hear what you guys think.
Yeah tbh I’m not sure they were right about that. Oly lifting squats are ass to grass and have a huge amount of hip flexion and extension as a result so glute development is huge
no they are right. oly lifters are notoriously under developed in the posterior chain RELATIVE to the quads. upright high bar squatting and snatch/clean pulling is excessively quad dominant and vertical force production relies more on the quads/calves than the posterior chain (glutes contribute but not to the same extent). you can see this in the examples they showed with the lifters' knees caving in. the channel doesn't suck just because you don't understand basics
Caleb Dressel (World record holder in swimming, 16 medals at the last 2 world championships) pointed out the lowest number of reps they do is 2 and never go for a 1 rep max - risk vs reward. His vertical jump is well above the average pro basketball player.
Brilliant example of how much genetics play in the development of muscles. Just look at cyclists like Chris Hoy, hands down a much better cyclist but although big, nothing compared to this man. Look at Jason Kenny, greatest Olympian and competing in similar events but nothing like the development. And you two lads know as well as I do there's plenty of people out there squatting big poundages without anything like the development of this man.
I think he has too much muscle mass. The sprint events obviously require big peak power, but having a big 20-30s power is more valuable. All of the extra mass on him is just more work for the body to deliver oxygen making him fatigue quicker. There’s also the increased aerodynamic drag which plays a big role too. Jason Kenny, who is much smaller, back squats 180kg and has 6 olympic gold medals
He has probably figured out what works for him and he is genetically disposed to build muscle alot: he has said that he's gym stuff isn't that different from his teammates and that it's just genetics which makes him grow. If he'd eased out of the gym work he might get smaller, but his power might suffer as well. Robert's peak power, despite his huge muscles, is less than some other sprinters. Chris Hoy puts something like 2500 watts, Robert more like 2200 watts and there are many in-between them. Just having muscles doesn't mean that you can generate lots of power (powerlifting is good example of this), but for Robert it is likely that he needs all those bad boys to keep generating that amount of power to be a world class. Drag is true, but again what Robert can do? He can't generate as much power as someone like Hoy does in his present state, if he'd slim down he's generate even less power. And on other hand there is draft in sprint, which minimizes the whole Drag thing when you are the one chasing. And then again someone like Hoy seems to be a lot taller than Robert so for him the drag is even worse (and tall guys can't draft as well either). Robert just doesn't have elite-of-the-elite genetics, but to me it seems that he has made his best to be as good as he can be. Robert's endurance is mystery. I've tried to search it, but all i get that he does regularily 60-80km rides and has ridden something like 200+km aswell. And modern search seems to indicate that big muscle cells can develop as high mitochondrial and capillar density as smaller can (there is study on Norwegian skiers on this). And Robert is sprinter so in the end he doesn't need that big endurance. Robert might be better at bit longer events, he might be 1 minute guy or something like that.
Great video, however, you are wrong about track and field athletes wanting to shorten their achilles. You would rather like to strengthen your achilles in a stretch position.
Interesting vid but the ginger guys audio is awful, it keeps breaking up and he mumbles and slurs all the words together making it hard to understand everything he’s saying. Please try to get him to slow down a tiny bit and enunciates more clearly.
Nope 🤦🏾♂️ it's all natural, he has myostatin-related muscle hypertrophy. That allows him to gain muscle mass much quicker than a normal person (even faster than someone on steroids etc) He even reduced his upper body strength training as it was gaining muscle mass very quick. With his upper body getting far too big 💪🏼
this guy isnt a good cyclist though. i mean i havnt looked it up what he has won or anything, but there is a reason actual cyclists dont have legs like this, the bigger your muscles are the more it takes to use them, this guy is just on drugs to have goofy big legs imo, i looked it up, the poor guy never wins anything, because his legs are to damn big, takes to much O2 to run them quads, like sprinters dont have gigantic leg muscles. i think this guy just works his legs out to much, possibly he should switch to speed skating, that sport actually devolops and uses large leg muscles (because ice is way less difficult to move on then basically any other surface a human being can move across, thus huge legs work for that sport
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No idea why youtube recommended this to me, but it was a great video
We've bribed the algorithm 😂
I second this
We all need bigger quads. You know it, we know it and the algorithm knows it. :D
@@sikastrength 👍😂🤣
he once said he had to stop training upper body because he got too big, because of a genetic mutation (myostatin).
Yeah, he said he had to stop deadlifting heavy.
giNger looking like Eoin “The Fridge” as seen in clarence0 videos.
After watching these two gentlemen's shoe reviews, I immediately became a big fan of their experience and healthy critics of their objectives. Honest and impartial. I enjoyed you both insightful and in-depth knowledge. Great video!!!
Short-track speed skaters have incredible quads too.
gotta give bryce lewis some more respect, for a powerlifter his high bar squats are truly beautiful
Yury Belkin also has a very aesthetic high-bar when he chooses to use it. Wouldn't look out of place in a weightlifting training hall I think
I know you guys said you don't know much about sprint cycling. I don't really know a lot either.
My old performance coach was a Sprint cyclist at the highest levels way back in the day. He was not in competition shape anymore, but he was a huge man. He would tell me that a Sprint cycling race felt like dumping gasoline all over yourself and then lighting it on fire. That always stuck with me. Squatting really heavy makes a person feel like they are going to die. Lol It gets easier with practice, but I can see why that would help with sprint cycling.
Also, having a strong upper body is important for rocking the bike and locomotion.
Great video as always guys. Cheers
There are loads of sprint cyclists that are huge and loads of them recognise that weights are very important
But there are also loads who just aim to be as light as possible
Power to weight is pretty much everything in cycling
That and power to CDA especially in the velodrome and time trialing
Ski Racer here, we share nearly the same athletic needs as sprint cyclists other than also needing lateral foot speed. Once you push out of the start gate your upper body muscle is nearly useless other than core strength and balance. The stronger you are the more you can flex your skis and generate energy between turns to keep accelerating. The stronger you are also allows for stiffer skis which give far better performance than softer skis.
"Forestman"
😂😂😂
Them legs be like trees
Wrong.
Love this sort of content. We the people want to see more of it.
he is a good track cyclist but more famous for the size of his legs
I first saw Robert Forstemann not on the track but on Strength Wars from back in the day LOLOLOL
Those quads are freaky AF!
This guy never misses leg day.
What an alpha Chad. Worlds most epic legs
It's the squat form for me 😂
Interesting video! I actually started following your weightlifting channels (clarence 0 included) to train aside cycling!
In this milieu, it is said squat were invented by cyclist haha.
François Pervis, who won gold medals (i don't think Robert F ever did) never went that heavy on squat. His coaching team was very much into velocity training however, if I recall correctly. :)
Who are generally the most powerful athletes when it comes to vertical jump, cyclists, weightlifters, long jumpers, sprinters?
Not sika, but id say that, at the top level, relative to gene pool size, it's weightlifters.
Shot Putters can give weightlifter's a run for their money
His heels come off the ground at the bottom off every rep, very noticeable at 4.09
His quads are bigger than yours though
@@hfr8343 no mine are way bigger and I'm a faster cyclist than him aswell, and you can't prove other wise 😎
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@@jayuppercase3398 lol
and your whiny assed pt is?
Great quality today boys
"Too many rear delts". 🤔 Like the phrase... Like the idea... Must go lift
How much more rear delts could he have? the answer is none, none more rear delts
Rear delts and lats are from doing standing starts in track cycling.
I don’t think he gives a fuck tbh
Hella trap intensive, a lot like an Olympic clean
Excellent form which many double-suit folks could not do!
I’d rather watch this
Just some notes, track cycling splits into two parts. Sprinting and endurance track cycling. Rob is extremely up there for sprint work. With his legs he can get on top of MASSIVE gearing
loving your content boys, up mayo btw :P
in the video he's coached by johannes luckas, german bodybuilding coach/youtuber
Robert's an absolute Chad.
Great video!
Bobsleigh guys squat ok , for athletes otside from WL
Handsome as you lads are I really appreciate true video clips as oppose to your faces😃
Love you guys xx
The reason his foot lifts up as he is reaching the bottom of the descent is purely ankle mobility due to the forward travel of the knees which occurs due to highbar. Nothing else.
Ya you can see the Achilles pulling in at the bottom of the squat. I noticed that in another video of his on strength wars
I think it's called dorsi flexion
Check Kallie Humphries - Olympic Bobsled champion. Super powerful
Damn he has taken lance armstongs cycle to another level LOL
Lance armstrongs cycle was very different from a powerlifter cycle
This dude has a myostatin deficiency which causes him to put on muscle very quickly, it's a very very rare disease. I'd look into it. I don't doubt that he's actually natural
@@joebloggs6922 He isn't natural dummy. Myostatin deficiency is overrated.
@@joebloggs6922 myostatin deficiency in humans in all the literature doesn’t do near as much as people think. If someone is untrained they will have more muscle naturally, but once they start training it kind of equals out and there isn’t much of a difference. Also depending on the polymorphism it might not even actually do anything. This dude certainly isn’t natural 100% of the year. With that said it doesn’t take anything away from him, and even if he does use gear and other PEDs the fact that he can’t blast during races makes his ability almost as impressive (and IMO mentally more impressive seeing as how he would be feeling like dog shit from being suppressed and feeling weak) as a natural athlete during races. The “drug tested doesn’t mean drug free” crowd assumes a lot without knowing much about gear. The fact that someone might have gotten away with running Anavar for 6 weeks while 6 months out of competition does not do anything compared to being able to blast through competition.
To the last point. I think the biggest difference is that you can also pull the pedal, so take advantage of your hamstrings
The idea of being able to pull up on the pedals has been debunked. It's valid at a low rpm/cadence but at a higher speed at best the hip flexors can lift the weight of the leg up. Its been shown that using the quad and glute to push down on the pedal and thus lift the opposite leg is more efficient. In terms of peak power attempting to lift up (unweighting the leg) could be beneficial. Having your feet solidly attached to the pedals would however allow greater activation of the hamstrings.
He’s extremely interesting, cause immediately if you were to look at his physique, legs especially, you would automatically assume doping. However its claimed he has a myostatin deficiency, and is one of those rare generic anomalies. That also seems to play in the amount of volume and weight he can handle.
You’d assume doping because he is doping
Just a heads up, I think his surname's spelt QUADZILLAAA
Fixed it, thank you 🙏
Definitely an elite cyclist with a team sprint worlds title to his name but in the individual sprint the likes of Chris Hoy completely out shone him. Goes to show max strength in that specific area (though clearly a huge applicable factor to the sport) doesnt necessarily translate to gold medals.
He was also unlucky being in that era as there were alot of good track sprinters Gregory Bauge(French), Theo Bos(Dutch) etc..
Chris Hoy puts ALOT more power to pedal than Robert based on what i've read. I think Hoy has peak power of 2500 watts while Robert's is around 2200watts.
Yeah, I guess the question is where does the power come from? Is it the gym specific work or the sport specific training? I know Chris Hoy attributes alot of his success to 1km time trial training. Essentially crazy interval efforts in really high gearing. Coupling that with what I could only guess as similar numbers in lifting as above would perhps be a starter to trying to understanding where his success comes from. Interesting stuff.
@@danielstones1 Yeah. I don't know a thing of Hoy's training. Is he just a genetical beast?
Ability to produce power is mainly of leverages. I can deadlift around 250-260kg and squat 180-200kg (i'm short 170cm/80kg)... I can produce something like 1200watts on bike, which is perhaps 100 watts more than regular skinny but tall cyclists. Lanky underweight Tour De France sprint-specialists can put 1700 watts on their final sprint after riding 3 week Tour De France... Probably barely half squatting their body weight.
So to me it seems that tall guys on bike generally are better at generating power. And Hoy seems to be tall guy when compared to Robert. So it could be just that which separates them, Robert's leverages not being sufficent. But i'm not expert on track as discipline.
And i know that Robert considers himself to be good at start (he is often 1st of his team). So perhaps he has better ability to start moving, but top speeds aren't as good.
@@Second247 Hoy like Usain Bolt and others are freak athletes. They have a genetic advantage to a start with. On top of this they put in the work and sacrifice. Success is putting it all together with luck thrown in - not one thing. They usually have an excellent support systems. Unfortunately they also need to be so focused (selfish) that family relationships often get destroyed - seperation, divorce, harrasment, stalking, alcohol and drug abuse, domestic violence etc. Many have payed a high personal cost for their success. Jack Bobridge is now in jail for illegal drug dealing. Gary Neiwen has a long history of various alcohol and criminal offences, etc. Caleb Ewen and Anna Mers are divorced.
Today track sprinting is a drag race. Because tracks today are super fast. They use 60T front chainrings and Its all go from start to finish. In the past it was common to use a 48T front chainring when tracks were concrete or bitumin. Therefore mind games (tactics) played a lot bigger part. Most riders are the same with top speed. Therefore the difference between riders often comes down to start time and low speed acceleration. For track sprinting Its mostly power to weigth and frontal area.
For endurance cycling its the efficency at the various power to weigth ratios that are used.
There are 2 types of mechanical advantage when cycling. There is force advantage which relates to the length of levers - how long. AND there is rotational advantage which relates to how short the levers are. The more force advantage there is the equally less rotation advantage. Also limb length may have varing muscle and tendon lengths. So a long limb may have a proportially short muscle and longer tendons etc. Therefore limb length cannot be used as a measure of cycling (running) performance. So average height body weigth sprint cyclists have an advantage over other body sizes. So the fastest sprint cyclists are usually around 5 foot 6 inches to 5 foot 9 inches. Anna Merers is 5 foot 5 inches.
If you look at womens world class 100m & 200m track sprinting. Nearly every world class women sprinter is under 5 foot 6 inches. Surprisingly many are under 5 foot 2 inches with some of the big names UNDER 5 FOOT. With men Usain Bolt is very tall. Bolt has a very slow start because of his height. But makes up for it with near perfect form. Its technique, technique & technique - and maybe some drugs.
Its not how much a track sprinter squats that matters. Its how much of the squat that gets onto the back wheel and onto the track. The modern form of weigth training for cycling is on the bike. Its not new because this was how it was done 50 years ago. Hoy used to put 40 kgm of weight on his training bike and ride it up hills. He then rode it up hill into the wind. Then he road it up hill into the wind with the brakes on. Weigtht training needs to be specific. Ryan Bayley won the 2004 Olympic sprint cycling gold medal. He squated half as much as other track cycling sprinters. Camilla Jetter 100m usa olympic runner was another athlete with a "weak" squat. Olympic sprint cycling (running) medals are not won by squating. They are won by winning a race on a bike (or foot). Its measured by TIME.
It doesnt matter how much you can squat - if it doesnt end up on the track.
@@raymondmenz522 Why it the fuck didn't TH-cam notify me of your reply! Really interesting post.
His squats are quality squats wich are always glute dominant! no matter how wide/narrow the feet are or if it's high bar, low bar or front squat. It's the neuromuscular activation pattern of the movement wich determines wich muscle regions are used more or less.
Core tension and feet support plays a key role of course.
This guys quad development are mostly from his sprint biking in the lactate zone for sure. His anatomy is built for squating too.
nah high bar weightlifting squats target quads the most, which is what he's doing
i think Chris Hoy used to squat around 250kg. Was the best around, and its a good 40/50kg less than Rob.
Chris is bigger guy, Perhaps 180cm, while Robert is perhaps something like 170cm. Huge difference on my experience when it comes to power production in cycling and one of the reasons why one can't simply go on saying that Robert is too strong: he is small so he might need way more strength to counter his weakness.
Chris's peak power is much more than Robert can muster. i think it was in 2500w while Robert had 2200w.
Robert can squat more than Hoy used to even though he's smaller because he has the hercules gene - myostatin-related muscle hypertrophy 💪🏼
12:18 lighting makes it look like he pooped his pants.
my god how does he buy pants that fit
paul felders twin brother right there
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed
A couple years ago I saw an article that talked about Robert having some sort of a myostatin deficiency. I’m not sure how likely this is, would love to hear what you guys think.
Yeah read that too,but since hes from ex-GDR Territory,maybe Myostatin-"Enhancers" are more likely ^^
His son has has the same located in the back, so its probably true
@@leonbremer4216 Ok,fair enough. I sure wouldnt mind having that.
His heels come up a good amount
Willing to bet there are some male bobsledders that can squat in this range. But these guys are a lot bigger than Forestman
There's a few barefoot squats in there, found that interesting. Can spot one at 11:28
no glute development? last i checked olympic lifters got some big butts lol
Yeah tbh I’m not sure they were right about that. Oly lifting squats are ass to grass and have a huge amount of hip flexion and extension as a result so glute development is huge
@@davidthomas9960 yeah this channel sucks tbh
no they are right. oly lifters are notoriously under developed in the posterior chain RELATIVE to the quads.
upright high bar squatting and snatch/clean pulling is excessively quad dominant and vertical force production relies more on the quads/calves than the posterior chain (glutes contribute but not to the same extent).
you can see this in the examples they showed with the lifters' knees caving in.
the channel doesn't suck just because you don't understand basics
Why do weightlifters prefer quad dominant squats?
because of the catch position
Snatch and cleans are quad dominant movements so need strong quads
check out harryharris2505 on insta, he's southern uk's quadzilla
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Caleb Dressel (World record holder in swimming, 16 medals at the last 2 world championships) pointed out the lowest number of reps they do is 2 and never go for a 1 rep max - risk vs reward. His vertical jump is well above the average pro basketball player.
Brilliant example of how much genetics play in the development of muscles. Just look at cyclists like Chris Hoy, hands down a much better cyclist but although big, nothing compared to this man. Look at Jason Kenny, greatest Olympian and competing in similar events but nothing like the development. And you two lads know as well as I do there's plenty of people out there squatting big poundages without anything like the development of this man.
Tom platz !!
I think Platz had the best nickname for a bodybuilder of all time, "The Quadfather". 😆
Tom Platz love child.
I think he has too much muscle mass. The sprint events obviously require big peak power, but having a big 20-30s power is more valuable. All of the extra mass on him is just more work for the body to deliver oxygen making him fatigue quicker. There’s also the increased aerodynamic drag which plays a big role too.
Jason Kenny, who is much smaller, back squats 180kg and has 6 olympic gold medals
Great points, ultimately there's a certain threshold in the gym for most sports that you need and then it's diminishing returns
He has probably figured out what works for him and he is genetically disposed to build muscle alot: he has said that he's gym stuff isn't that different from his teammates and that it's just genetics which makes him grow. If he'd eased out of the gym work he might get smaller, but his power might suffer as well.
Robert's peak power, despite his huge muscles, is less than some other sprinters. Chris Hoy puts something like 2500 watts, Robert more like 2200 watts and there are many in-between them. Just having muscles doesn't mean that you can generate lots of power (powerlifting is good example of this), but for Robert it is likely that he needs all those bad boys to keep generating that amount of power to be a world class.
Drag is true, but again what Robert can do? He can't generate as much power as someone like Hoy does in his present state, if he'd slim down he's generate even less power. And on other hand there is draft in sprint, which minimizes the whole Drag thing when you are the one chasing. And then again someone like Hoy seems to be a lot taller than Robert so for him the drag is even worse (and tall guys can't draft as well either).
Robert just doesn't have elite-of-the-elite genetics, but to me it seems that he has made his best to be as good as he can be.
Robert's endurance is mystery. I've tried to search it, but all i get that he does regularily 60-80km rides and has ridden something like 200+km aswell. And modern search seems to indicate that big muscle cells can develop as high mitochondrial and capillar density as smaller can (there is study on Norwegian skiers on this). And Robert is sprinter so in the end he doesn't need that big endurance.
Robert might be better at bit longer events, he might be 1 minute guy or something like that.
He isn't the strongest track cyclist either.
I never imagined a cyclist trained like a strongman
Relative to the rest of the 81kg weight class, I'm anorexic. Here is a comment for the algorithn.
Great video, however, you are wrong about track and field athletes wanting to shorten their achilles. You would rather like to strengthen your achilles in a stretch position.
That's what I've always thought, but maybe they have a point
I know he's a cyclist but does he need to wear his bib shorts all the time?
yes please
Glooot
More like rangerman
yeah those were my first shoes. pretty bad shoes. No stability at all.
@10:10 really? breaking hips from heavy singles that easy for him? Give me a break.
They didnt say heavy singles will break his hip. They said theres a big risk and with weights around 300kg a severe injury is a possibility.
I get the feeling the guys trolling, right?
this host looks like ginger Dan Bilzerian...
never heard of her
Kangaroos are marsupials
Marsupials are mammals too.
The distinction you're thinking-of is between marsupials and placentals.
Both groups fall under mammals.
Algorithm
He's on juice
No way do you think?? I never would have guessed.
clearly on a cycle
Interesting vid but the ginger guys audio is awful, it keeps breaking up and he mumbles and slurs all the words together making it hard to understand everything he’s saying. Please try to get him to slow down a tiny bit and enunciates more clearly.
He’s got huge quads but he’s also very short his muscle has got no where to go. That’s why his legs and butt are so big
Helps being 5"5 to have squads like that
@googas No he is not 😂😂😂
🤔... suspicious.
Nope 🤦🏾♂️ it's all natural, he has myostatin-related muscle hypertrophy. That allows him to gain muscle mass much quicker than a normal person (even faster than someone on steroids etc)
He even reduced his upper body strength training as it was gaining muscle mass very quick. With his upper body getting far too big 💪🏼
this guy isnt a good cyclist though. i mean i havnt looked it up what he has won or anything, but there is a reason actual cyclists dont have legs like this, the bigger your muscles are the more it takes to use them, this guy is just on drugs to have goofy big legs imo, i looked it up, the poor guy never wins anything, because his legs are to damn big, takes to much O2 to run them quads, like sprinters dont have gigantic leg muscles. i think this guy just works his legs out to much, possibly he should switch to speed skating, that sport actually devolops and uses large leg muscles (because ice is way less difficult to move on then basically any other surface a human being can move across, thus huge legs work for that sport
End of the day life is about being successful and his legs are making him money regardless if he gets last in "Olympic" races
" ankle mobility " talk about your raisin size testes for once tell the kids "bro" ur not my bro if you're A) a eunuch B) a beta
This is close to being gay. Close.
its full 100% gay af.