Here’s my friend David’s Ford AU Fairlane Millennium edition. A cool car with the VCT engine. Please 👍Like👍 and Subscribe and check out the other Fairlaneepisodes on the channel. Thanks for watching. 👍
Here is my friend David’sFord AU Fairlane Millennium edition. Please give the episode a Like 👍 and Subscribe for more Aussie car history. Please also check out the other Fairlane episodes on the channel. Thanks for watching. 👍
That colour green is beautiful. I like AU Fairlanes. They are a real mans car. I have a Burgundy 2000 model V8 with a black interior. Nicest car I've ever owned. They will never make cars like this again, so I'm looking to buy another or a LTD and stash them in the shed so I never run out of the best Ford Australia has ever made.
A friends Dad a a AU V8 Fairlane in silver, he did some go fast bits & tuning and was the ultimate cruiser;.we nicknamed it "Hammertime" as when you gave it the wellies, she motored along. My friend now has it & is slowly restoring it, as his dad has Parkinsons & no longer drives
Of the early AU cars, I think that the Fairlane was probable the most cohesive exterior design. The interior was good, too. Overall, a very comfortable cruiser, well suited to Aussie roads. 👍
Always liked the Fairlane.The combination of luxury and power has always reminded me of big American Fords. When I was a younger man in the early 90's I fell in love with the ZC/ZD, which were dirt cheap at the time! If only I'd bought one when I had the chance. Nice work as always Mark.
What a lovely car Mark. Over the years so many Fairlanes have disappeared because people took out the interior to fit into Falcons. One bloke said that although the driving position in the Fairlane was good the rear seat occupants had much more luxury and space with real comfortable armchair type seating where you just sank into the seat. So many cars today could certainly learn from Fairlane and LTD seating for these days we seem to sit on seats we don't sink into them. For me though I doubt if I'd see much of the passing scenery for once comfortable in the rear with the silky smooth ride I'd probably just nod off.
Mate , great minds think alike , i totally agree on the sinking into the seats thing , my S2 xr6 had leather seats you sink into , super comfy , a lot of cars these days, i suspect they have cheaper harder foam in the seats because you sit on them rather then in them , and they are just not as comfortable.
Really nice original special edition Fairmont Ghia there David, what's not to like? The interior looks so much nicer than the Falcon & I reckon the VCT 6 suits this relaxed car. Thanks guys.
Very nice car. The millennium edition also got a factory Tickford Alarm. However all AU Fairlane 6cyl were the Tickford VCT not just the special editions
Hi Mark, David has a nice Fairlane Millennium the dark metallic green looks good and suits the car. sounds smooth that 6 cylinder VCT engine, thanks for showing your mates car. Great video Take care
Should put a taxi roof sign with side facing spotties and repeater blinkers such is the taxi sound it makes. Just as well he has another set of eyes for her as these ones are getting cataracts from the sun. Nice leather trim. I like the six myself.
@@markbehr88 speaking of cutting compound, I found some on the side of the road. Hopfully still viable and may come in handy for my next car purchase which could have the yellowing policarbonate. A sure sign it s left outside.
Nice car, i took a pick of an AU Fairlane yesterday in Coburg, i believe it was a millenium model had the black head light assemblies & the 5 spoke tickford alloys & was silver.
I've got mixed feelings about these special editions because they are sometimes overly expensive for some badging and slight more powerful engine, but at same time I'm glad someone did buy it new as they feel more special afterwards to me...
Great vids and info, I like watching stuff on these Australian cars as they are very unique and generally not seen or found in most other parts of the World, I do not remember seeing too many of these in Oz when I visited in 2011. Just a thought, I think an Ozzy Ford Barra or any Falcon 6 in an early 80's European Ford Capri would be a fun conversion, although the Capri was tail happy with 4 cylinder pinto it would be worse with a heavier straight 6 up front, but still likely lots of fun. Great info on the vids.
It was legal in Australia up till 2000 to put a Ford 289 Windsor V8 in a Capri , with 4 speed manual , infact it was very common in the late 1980s , also 302 and even the odd 351 W made it under the hood , that's 5.8 litres , Ford of Australia sold Ford Australian 302 Clevelands to Ford South Africa to produce the factory Ford model " Parana" a Capri with a 4.9 litre V8 from the show room floor .
Best car I ever owned was an 2002 AU ll Fairlane interceptor version. My exwife made me sell it and get a 2010 Ford Territory, then pissed off and took the Territory with her. On the upside, no more nagging wife and I went out and got myself a 1999 AU l Fairlane Police interceptor version within 4 days, could have got a Fairlane the next day, but it had to be the Police interceptor version. Quick wat to tell you have one. Look on the rear 1/4 windows and it will say "Police Intercettor" in the window tint and no sun roof. Sad to say that was hit by a silly bitch in a Honda, Honda lost, but the Fairlane was 15 years old and the NRMA paid out on it, I did buy the car back and picked up an 1998 AU XR6 falcon that was stuffed, took it down to the shell and fitter all the Fairlane parts I could, Did keep the Falcon's manual gearbox, Had to get a new roof trim and boot lid .............. soooo much rust in that boot lid. Still driving it today.
@@markbehr88 Not many V8 were made and I heard it was for dealer principles only how true that is I don’t know. If you still have contacts at Ford and I can give you the VIN of the car.
1988-1994 Lincoln Continental! Thank you Mark for this video. I enjoyed watching the video. This car looks extremely close to the Lincoln I mentioned. This car is rear drive and offers a V8. Ours was front wheel drive and used a V6 rated at 140 horsepower. This was so grand to see in action. The Australian Ford has a better interior to our Lincoln too. The Lincoln did not get bucket seats and floor shifter until 1993 I think. I can only image how the LTD version looked on the inside. Holden was competing against this with the Caprice and Statesman. I said it before Ford Australia really took time and put effort into their models and interiors and quality. This car should have been sold in the United States as a Crown Victoria replacement or Mercury Grand Marquis or as a Lincoln with many modifications. Just wow. Thank you Mark.
Thanks Olds98. Glad you liked it. Yes, it would have been a great car for the USA I am sure. One thing I did not really show was all the rear legroom too. 👍
@@markbehr88 I am sure it had a longer wheelbase than Lincoln Continental. Lincoln Town Car is a different story. How long was this Fairlane( length). I am curious.
@@markbehr88 I converted it to inches. It is 5140 mm. which converts to 202.3 inches long. The Lincoln Continental is longer. The Continental is 205.1 inches long(5210 mm) . It is on a 109 inch wheelbase. That is 2768.6 mm I made a mistake in what I said about the engine. It went up to 160 horsepower. This was an upgrade from 140 horsepower. A video of one: th-cam.com/video/sfARKMZIzb4/w-d-xo.html
Maybe I misheard vc t v6 engine. But speaking on that all fairlanes ghia have that vct engine standard. But the xr6 had vct but was actually an option model.
AU Fairlane, sharing the same model designation as a Falcon and later the same tail lights and head lights. Nice car but the distinction between it and the Falcon had become very blurred. Ford realised that the ZF Fairlane looked too much like the XA Falcon and it's exclusivity was lost. The ZH Fairlane fixed that. Remember the Holden Brougham being a Premier with a long boot? Speaking of Broughams I went to my model shop this morning in search of a 1:18 P76, out of stock so I bought a Brougham. Hey Mark are you going to do any more videos on diecast models?
I agree with you on differentiation although the AU LWB models had great differentiation. Different headlights, front guards, grille, rear quarters, boot etc. The BA was another story. I ordered and received my blue 1/18 P76 and have the Brougham on order but have not received a call yet. Are they out? I may do some more model videos down the track. I have plenty of them. 😀👍
I've never liked the gap between the rear door edge and rear wheel opening, on these and the wagons, one would think between the wagons and the Fairlane, they would recoup the cost of longer doors.
Hi seems like you guys may have made a couple mistakes. There's no v6 in falcon and or au range. The v8 Ltd or even fairlane talking au only has the xr8 engine from ab au s1 as its just a ford engine. S2 s3 xr8s has tickford 8s which were a fair bit better than the standard au v8.
I think if you watch the video again, we never mention V6. We say VCT for Variable Cam Timing. The LTD had the XR8 engine which was not the standard V8. The “standard “ V8 was in Falcon, Fairmont and Fairlane AU models. For more information please watch my comprehensive AU episode on the channel. 👍
Sorry for sounding like Captain Critical again.........but this was the most ordinary Fairlane in history. Mag wheels, nice colour, fancy name........just lipstick on a pig. In my view, the NC was the last decent looking Fairlane/LTD. After that......the visual decline. I think the buyers agreed as well. By all all means, probably still a fantastic long haul cruiser and reliable, but certainly no looker. Every Fairlane from the ZA to the NC were styling masterpieces. After that...... something went wrong. Just my opinion. To those who love them, that's perfectly fine.
Each to their own. Between David and I - we own 4 of them. We reckon they look great. Mini Lincoln Town Car. Re the NC - personally, the exterior is too Falcon generic. The interior is the highpoint but having essentially Fairmont headlights did not do it for me. Each to their own. 👍
@@markbehr88 I think it was the later NF and NL's that used Fairmont headlights. Their taillights also looked Fairmont like, and a little cheap. Prior to those, the Fairlane was far more exclusive, with detailing unique to just those models.
I think i prefer the AU fairlanes to the later ones , i cant speak for the NC , it is one model i have no Experience with , but my real favorites where the ZA,B,C,D models , i remember ( vaguely ) going to Dayelsford speedway from melbourne in the 70`s to watch the stock cars with my old man in his bosses ZD 351 , lovely big cruiser , i cant remember if the ZD`s still had the hydraulic ram power steering( i think they did ) , i know the earlier ones did , they had a different feel to them , really easy , and more old school turns from lock to lock , but they just floated over bad road , the very early jags had a similar super easy feel to them . Modern ones are good too , but the oldies had a feel all their own . What is really sad to me is that most of the younger folk will have never experienced how good those older cars where , they hop into a modern car ...... " Oh goodie it has apple car play " 🙄 , and while the newys may have a greater turn of speed , but they are still characterless , soulless seriously boring whitegoods .
Here is my friend David’sFord AU Fairlane Millennium edition. Please give the episode a Like 👍 and Subscribe for more Aussie car history. Please also check out the other Fairlane episodes on the channel. Thanks for watching. 👍
I have a feeling the Fairlanes will start being appreciated.
The days of affordable long-wheel base saloons are gone.
They were a gem.
For sure. The early ones already are, so these will follow suit as sure as night follows day. 👍
That colour green is beautiful. I like AU Fairlanes. They are a real mans car. I have a Burgundy 2000 model V8 with a black interior. Nicest car I've ever owned. They will never make cars like this again, so I'm looking to buy another or a LTD and stash them in the shed so I never run out of the best Ford Australia has ever made.
Agreed. Good idea to get an LTD too. 👍
When I was growing up the NF/NL Fairlane Concorde was a very cool car to see out in the wild.
Yes. I will cover that off when I do the Fairlane series. 👍
A friends Dad a a AU V8 Fairlane in silver, he did some go fast bits & tuning and was the ultimate cruiser;.we nicknamed it "Hammertime" as when you gave it the wellies, she motored along.
My friend now has it & is slowly restoring it, as his dad has Parkinsons & no longer drives
Sounds cool. Worth restoring. 👍
Of the early AU cars, I think that the Fairlane was probable the most cohesive exterior design. The interior was good, too. Overall, a very comfortable cruiser, well suited to Aussie roads. 👍
Yes, I agree with that. 👍
Always liked the Fairlane.The combination of luxury and power has always reminded me of big American Fords. When I was a younger man in the early 90's I fell in love with the ZC/ZD, which were dirt cheap at the time! If only I'd bought one when I had the chance.
Nice work as always Mark.
Thanks Dan. My brother had a 351 ZC back in 1982. Great car. Wish I had it. 👍
@@markbehr88 That would have been perfect! Cheers mate
@@danozism Wish I had it now! 👍🤔
Had a budget rent car one for wedding car. 43 degrees, was wonderful.
Yes, I rented a new one when I was at FPV and we drove to Bathurst. Only a 6 but a great car. I love my V8 model. 👍
Nice car. Good colour.
Agree. 👍
What a lovely car Mark. Over the years so many Fairlanes have disappeared because people took out the interior to fit into Falcons. One bloke said that although the driving position in the Fairlane was good the rear seat occupants had much more luxury and space with real comfortable armchair type seating where you just sank into the seat. So many cars today could certainly learn from Fairlane and LTD seating for these days we seem to sit on seats we don't sink into them. For me though I doubt if I'd see much of the passing scenery for once comfortable in the rear with the silky smooth ride I'd probably just nod off.
Yes, great cars these are. I get you re nodding off. That was actually the theme of the AU Fairlane TV ad. 👍
Mate , great minds think alike , i totally agree on the sinking into the seats thing , my S2 xr6 had leather seats you sink into , super comfy , a lot of cars these days, i suspect they have cheaper harder foam in the seats because you sit on them rather then in them , and they are just not as comfortable.
Agreed. 👍
Really nice original special edition Fairmont Ghia there David, what's not to like? The interior looks so much nicer than the Falcon & I reckon the VCT 6 suits this relaxed car. Thanks guys.
Glad you liked it. 👍
My folks had a Mitsubishi scorpion and I remember it being a pretty flashy sports car in the day , my dad loved it😂
I liked the Scorpion too. 👍
Thanks mark would love to see David’s LTD . the glenorie edition the one that got away
Hi Gerard. Ah, you mean the gold Fairlane Ghia NL? Hopefully, I will do a video on that and his silver AU LTD. 👍
Very nice car. The millennium edition also got a factory Tickford Alarm. However all AU Fairlane 6cyl were the Tickford VCT not just the special editions
Thanks for the info. 👍
I remember ford doing the millennium special editions and they couldn’t do a millennium Falcon due to the obvious copyright issues.
I am sure you’re right there. 👍
I worked for a engineering firm that did all the vct housing
Very cool. Great engine 👍
G'day Mark,
Great video but never a fan of these AU Fairlanes & LTD.
But you can't please everyone
Cheers
Louis Kats 👍
That’s true. I reckon they look terrific and, as another subscriber said, probably the most cohesive of the AU designs. 👍
@@markbehr88👍👍
Good video Mark , i was hoping you would look at the Fairlanes eventually.
Thanks. I will be doing dedicated, detailed episodes on all the Fairlanes as per the Falcon ones. The first will be the ZA. 👍
@@markbehr88 Cool , look forward to it mate .
Cheers .
Hi Mark, David has a nice Fairlane Millennium the dark metallic green looks good and suits the car. sounds smooth that 6 cylinder VCT engine, thanks for showing your mates car.
Great video Take care
Thanks Shaun. Glad you liked it. 👍
Should put a taxi roof sign with side facing spotties and repeater blinkers such is the taxi sound it makes.
Just as well he has another set of eyes for her as these ones are getting cataracts from the sun.
Nice leather trim. I like the six myself.
The headlights can be sorted with some cutting compound. They are definitely worth keeping as spares. 👍
@@markbehr88 speaking of cutting compound, I found some on the side of the road. Hopfully still viable and may come in handy for my next car purchase which could have the yellowing policarbonate. A sure sign it s left outside.
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Nice car, i took a pick of an AU Fairlane yesterday in Coburg, i believe it was a millenium model had the black head light assemblies & the 5 spoke tickford alloys & was silver.
Thanks. Sounds like that was a Millennium too? 🤔👍
@@markbehr88 if i could post a pic i would but it won't allow me too:(
@@chrisF351 Yes, I wish YT would enable that function. 👍
And all we all ever wanted was a millennium falcon
A very rear car these days I wouldn’t assume
To take you to the moon and back!😀👍
I've got mixed feelings about these special editions because they are sometimes overly expensive for some badging and slight more powerful engine, but at same time I'm glad someone did buy it new as they feel more special afterwards to me...
I think this one was more a value package. $4000 of extras for a lot less than $4k? 👍
Great vids and info, I like watching stuff on these Australian cars as they are very unique and generally not seen or found in most other parts of the World, I do not remember seeing too many of these in Oz when I visited in 2011. Just a thought, I think an Ozzy Ford Barra or any Falcon 6 in an early 80's European Ford Capri would be a fun conversion, although the Capri was tail happy with 4 cylinder pinto it would be worse with a heavier straight 6 up front, but still likely lots of fun. Great info on the vids.
That would be a beast. Glad you like the videos. 👍
It was legal in Australia up till 2000 to put a Ford 289 Windsor V8 in a Capri , with 4 speed manual , infact it was very common in the late 1980s , also 302 and even the odd 351 W made it under the hood , that's 5.8 litres , Ford of Australia sold Ford Australian 302 Clevelands to Ford South Africa to produce the factory Ford model " Parana" a Capri with a 4.9 litre V8 from the show room floor .
@@JosephCowen-fz8vj Yes, those South African V8 Capris were very cool as was their XR8 Ford Sierra. 👍
Very nice.
Thanks 👍
Best car I ever owned was an 2002 AU ll Fairlane interceptor version. My exwife made me sell it and get a 2010 Ford Territory, then pissed off and took the Territory with her. On the upside, no more nagging wife and I went out and got myself a 1999 AU l Fairlane Police interceptor version within 4 days, could have got a Fairlane the next day, but it had to be the Police interceptor version.
Quick wat to tell you have one. Look on the rear 1/4 windows and it will say "Police Intercettor" in the window tint and no sun roof.
Sad to say that was hit by a silly bitch in a Honda, Honda lost, but the Fairlane was 15 years old and the NRMA paid out on it, I did buy the car back and picked up an 1998 AU XR6 falcon that was stuffed, took it down to the shell and fitter all the Fairlane parts I could, Did keep the Falcon's manual gearbox, Had to get a new roof trim and boot lid .............. soooo much rust in that boot lid. Still driving it today.
Those pesky ex wives! Re the AU boot. Best to go buy a spare non rust one at the wreckers while they’re still available and cheap. 👍
Correction in the video they did come in V8 option aswell. I have a Millenium I’m parting out a factory V8 with books.
Interesting. I will have to dig out my brochure. I will let David know. 👍
@@markbehr88 Not many V8 were made and I heard it was for dealer principles only how true that is I don’t know. If you still have contacts at Ford and I can give you the VIN of the car.
Unfortunately Ford don’t do those letter any more n😢
1988-1994 Lincoln Continental! Thank you Mark for this video. I enjoyed watching the video. This car looks extremely close to the Lincoln I mentioned. This car is rear drive and offers a V8. Ours was front wheel drive and used a V6 rated at 140 horsepower. This was so grand to see in action. The Australian Ford has a better interior to our Lincoln too. The Lincoln did not get bucket seats and floor shifter until 1993 I think. I can only image how the LTD version looked on the inside. Holden was competing against this with the Caprice and Statesman. I said it before Ford Australia really took time and put effort into their models and interiors and quality. This car should have been sold in the United States as a Crown Victoria replacement or Mercury Grand Marquis or as a Lincoln with many modifications. Just wow. Thank you Mark.
Thanks Olds98. Glad you liked it. Yes, it would have been a great car for the USA I am sure. One thing I did not really show was all the rear legroom too. 👍
@@markbehr88 I am sure it had a longer wheelbase than Lincoln Continental. Lincoln Town Car is a different story. How long was this Fairlane( length). I am curious.
@@OLDS98 16.8 feet long. 👍
@@markbehr88 I converted it to inches. It is 5140 mm. which converts to 202.3 inches long. The Lincoln Continental is longer. The Continental is 205.1 inches long(5210 mm) . It is on a 109 inch wheelbase. That is 2768.6 mm I made a mistake in what I said about the engine. It went up to 160 horsepower. This was an upgrade from 140 horsepower. A video of one: th-cam.com/video/sfARKMZIzb4/w-d-xo.html
I am sure the Fairlane was probably still roomier inside? Less overhang etc. 👍
Maybe I misheard vc t v6 engine. But speaking on that all fairlanes ghia have that vct engine standard. But the xr6 had vct but was actually an option model.
Yes, I think you misheard. We said VCT. The VCT was optional on the XR6 (per my silver car) and standard on Fairmont Ghia and Fairlane. 👍
AU engines were so quiet. I own an Ancient AU and BA and the AU seems to make far less noise generally, creaks, plastic rattle etc
I think that’s true. 👍
AU Fairlane, sharing the same model designation as a Falcon and later the same tail lights and head lights. Nice car but the distinction between it and the Falcon had become very blurred. Ford realised that the ZF Fairlane looked too much like the XA Falcon and it's exclusivity was lost. The ZH Fairlane fixed that. Remember the Holden Brougham being a Premier with a long boot? Speaking of Broughams I went to my model shop this morning in search of a 1:18 P76, out of stock so I bought a Brougham. Hey Mark are you going to do any more videos on diecast models?
I agree with you on differentiation although the AU LWB models had great differentiation. Different headlights, front guards, grille, rear quarters, boot etc. The BA was another story. I ordered and received my blue 1/18 P76 and have the Brougham on order but have not received a call yet. Are they out? I may do some more model videos down the track. I have plenty of them. 😀👍
@@markbehr88 The Brougham is later this year but I have it on on order and there is a Nutmeg coloured P76 coming apparently.
@@area51isreal71 Right. Me too. I wanted the Blue Targa Florio. Try Gamesworld at Southland for a blue one and they can mail it to you. 👍
@@markbehr88 On it. Thanks for that.
@@area51isreal71Try tomorrow as I think they open Sundays. 👍
I've never liked the gap between the rear door edge and rear wheel opening, on these and the wagons, one would think between the wagons and the Fairlane, they would recoup the cost of longer doors.
Not something that bothered me as it just denoted the longer wheelbase. 👍
My '93 NC Sportman Ghia is the same...but it doesn't bother me. Cheers!
Yes, it is part of being a long wheelbase. It has to go somewhere. 🤔👍
Pretty sure GMH used LWB platforms on their Statesman/Caprice and did they have that gap, I’ll have to Google it…
@@ceedoubleyou Yes
I reckon you're in Tyabb there
Yes near the airfield. 👍
@@markbehr88 I know it well
Love these. Last of the true Fairlanes. BA/BF series weren’t as special IMO and not different enough from the Falcon.
Agree. They really did not differentiate Fairlane nearly as much as they should have in BA and BF. Same tail lights!!! What were they thinking! 🫣
@markbehr88 at that time , I would say $$$ !
@@robertmorris6529 penny wise pound foolish 🤔👍
@@markbehr88 seems to have been the guiding rule from about 2000 ! Could it have been a Dearborn Edict ?
@@robertmorris6529 Maybe? 🤔
Hi seems like you guys may have made a couple mistakes. There's no v6 in falcon and or au range.
The v8 Ltd or even fairlane talking au only has the xr8 engine from ab au s1 as its just a ford engine. S2 s3 xr8s has tickford 8s which were a fair bit better than the standard au v8.
I think if you watch the video again, we never mention V6. We say VCT for Variable Cam Timing. The LTD had the XR8 engine which was not the standard V8. The “standard “ V8 was in Falcon, Fairmont and Fairlane AU models. For more information please watch my comprehensive AU episode on the channel. 👍
I have one in exactly the same colour. Any idea how many were made in Congo green?
I don’t have that info sorry. Not many. 👍
I thought that was a lovely car was the rego sticker still in date?
Thanks. That is an old sticker we don’t use rego stickers anymore in Victoria. 👍
@@markbehr88 nostalgia I don’t think rego stickers exist anymore Australia wide!
@@MegaSkypes I am sure you are right. I would say he left it there as a reminder for the month.
Sorry for sounding like Captain Critical again.........but this was the most ordinary Fairlane in history. Mag wheels, nice colour, fancy name........just lipstick on a pig.
In my view, the NC was the last decent looking Fairlane/LTD. After that......the visual decline. I think the buyers agreed as well.
By all all means, probably still a fantastic long haul cruiser and reliable, but certainly no looker.
Every Fairlane from the ZA to the NC were styling masterpieces. After that...... something went wrong.
Just my opinion. To those who love them, that's perfectly fine.
Each to their own. Between David and I - we own 4 of them. We reckon they look great. Mini Lincoln Town Car. Re the NC - personally, the exterior is too Falcon generic. The interior is the highpoint but having essentially Fairmont headlights did not do it for me. Each to their own. 👍
@@markbehr88
I think it was the later NF and NL's that used Fairmont headlights. Their taillights also looked Fairmont like, and a little cheap. Prior to those, the Fairlane was far more exclusive, with detailing unique to just those models.
@@noelgibson5956 Yes, you’re right. I was thinking of those models. 👍
I think i prefer the AU fairlanes to the later ones , i cant speak for the NC , it is one model i have no Experience with , but my real favorites where the ZA,B,C,D models , i remember ( vaguely ) going to Dayelsford speedway from melbourne in the 70`s to watch the stock cars with my old man in his bosses ZD 351 , lovely big cruiser , i cant remember if the ZD`s still had the hydraulic ram power steering( i think they did ) , i know the earlier ones did , they had a different feel to them , really easy , and more old school turns from lock to lock , but they just floated over bad road , the very early jags had a similar super easy feel to them .
Modern ones are good too , but the oldies had a feel all their own .
What is really sad to me is that most of the younger folk will have never experienced how good those older cars where , they hop into a modern car ...... " Oh goodie it has apple car play " 🙄 , and while the newys may have a greater turn of speed , but they are still characterless , soulless seriously boring whitegoods .
@@mikldude9376 Well said. 👍