house of flame and shadow is the worst sarah j maas book ever
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the worst part was 100% the fact that there are too many characters in this book. and all of them are irrelevant. TOG also had a bunch of characters but from what i remember they all had some kind of purpose. Tharion and Ithan did nothing in this book.
Also another problem was the non existent stakes. i never felt stressed for any of the characters because sjm is incapable of writing tension. i know that nobody is going to die (expect for useless side characters like sigrid).
Ruhn loses his hand and gets it back a few chapters later (it could have added tension if they weren’t able to grow it back) Lidia and Bryce both litterally die and come back to life 💀.
if she doesn’t want to kill her characters then she shouldn’t write epic fantasy.
you're so right. I'm 50% in and I'm ready to stop reading it. DNF.
Honest to god the plot armor is insane. Can't say I didn't expect it
I was waiting for a big death and it didn’t happen.. lol
I totally agree. I started reading recently the genre romantasy. My first book was Crescent City 1. I loved it. The plot is addictive. I have read immediately CC2. Its not so good as the first one. Still loved it and it turned out in a major cliffhanger. Thankfully, i didnt waited two years to read cc3 because it was a major disappointement. The whole tension summarizes in the first 300 pages and that's all. Irrelevant sub plots, many useless characters, no epic twists, lack of spice and love chemistry between the main couple, no epic conclusion. The point is that the writer could develop more the stories of the main characters and give them a hype and not use numerous side characters with sub plots that made no sense. I didnt finished it until the end. I quitted and i didnt expect this to happen considering of how much i enjoyed the first two books. I wonder what SJM will write in CC4.
i genuinely can't believe i waited 2 years on that cliffhanger only to get... whatever this is
Actually 😭
House of flame and shadow is the last book in the series, right? Or does it at least has a decent ending or ends on another cliffhanger? Spoiler-free please 🥺🙏
@@user-rj1lc3lq2d I just finished it & it’s like a “true” ending (no cliffhanger) but SJM said she was only under contract for 3 but there’s 4 houses so there might be another (or a novella maybe?)
“I don’t need that guys I’m ready to hate whenever” perfect
i have never in my life read a single page of sarah j mass but we're eating good today... thank you for the haterism sophie
Same! Never touched the Maas-trash pile, and glad for it!
I’ve read 2 of the ACOTAR series and 4 of Throne of Glass. You’re not missing much. 🤣 I get her writing can be entertaining. But the spicy scenes are not so spicy, and the main characters are insufferable.
and her "feminism" sucks. 😖@@patriciaa65
Gang gang 🎉
“I don’t remember the Trojan war I wasn’t around back then” 💀
Someone pointed out to me that Bryce out in space and Hunt going through the portal with a mech suit is literally the ending of Big Hero 6 when Hiro and Baymax go through the portal. Shahar/Baymax are stuck in space forever, and Hiro/Hunt save the lady out in space.
You know, I’d say that’s crazy, but with SJM idk why I should be surprised anymore.
YES!!! It’s all i thought about immediately!!! I can’t picture anything else!
having a crossover in ANY book is a massive mistake, world-time-space travel is goofy outside of certain sci-fi genres, LIKE WHOSE IDEA WAS IT💀 This is literally so goofy, SJM is officially insane like WHAT
54:20 "she sold her parents to one direction" lmfaooooo
This book desperately needed to be revised and trimmed down. Once again, SJM proves she's popular by luck, and not talent.
So true!!! Not all fantasies can be as chunky as this but if this is how long it is. Give the characters their importance on the story like what Brandon Sanderson is doing. He went over 1000 pages with GOOD REASON. SJM's Crescent City has the potential to be a great Trilogy if she gave her characters some importance, even it has smut. You can't throw a character in that plot and he does nothing the entire 900 pages.
"I wish the baby would have f.. nothing." killed me omg. this video is the best content to come out of SJM
Nothing personal against Sarah J Mass as a person, but it baffles me how her books and the millions of awful romantasy clones of her books completely overshadow genuinely great epic fantasy authors from past and present. We've fallen a long way since the age of Tolkien, Robin Hobb, Robert Jordan, Ursula Le Guin, Tamora Pierce, Anne Mccaffery, Michael Moorcock, Gene Wolfe, Diana Wynn Jones, Roger Zelazny, David Eddings, Jack Vance, Raymond E. Feist, Glen Cook, etc.
I wouldn’t even call this real fantasy or put her in the same category as those writers. This is like 50 shades fiction..
And there are really good fantasy genres out there with great plot.
I loved ACOTAR, but this whole crescent city thing is one DISASTER.
I haven't been bored like this, reading it, since......
EVER!!!!
“We show Rhys because, you know he’s the most important.” *it’s your choiceeee*
I died 😂
I wouldn't be surprised if it was 90% smut at this point
It wasn't, although there was a lot of those scenes...Which felt rushed and out of place almost like she felt compelled to include them because her readers want those scenes.
there were literally 3 chapters that contained smut content out of over a 100 chapters...
I finished Crescent City 2 in january and that mess alone made me decide that it's not worth it to continue this series... but I did not expect that House of Flame and Shadow would be THAT disapointing lol.
I was absolutely raging at book 2. Hated it. Then my sister started 3 and i said ill give it one go. The crossover redeemed it for me cause it was so small. Then the book went to hell.
This review is 100% on point, I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who was immensely disappointed with this book. I’m officially no longer recommending CC to anyone ever again.
This might be my last SJM book.... I feel like crescent city should have been a stand alone tbh.
Very interesting that SJM's favourite three bros are present but not the MC from that other series we are crossing over to? Lol.
And oh no, not more mates 😂.
Also I know you hate Nesta, but I swear SJM brought her here just so she could dump on her more. I always felt sorry for her and the fact that she was married off to cASSian.
Thank you Sophie! I absolutely hate these books, but I have a morbid curiosity about seeing what happens, how much worse they can get. I'm honestly surprised how bad it got, even though I shouldn't be. Thank you for your sacrifice 🙏
How the last one ended (alternate universes), something pretty impressive would have needed to happen to make it👏 make👏 sense👏.
I am so mad. you're telling me we waited 2 YEARS for THAT????? biggest disappointment of my life
Is it bad that I wanted Bryce to die in this book? 😅
same...I actively rooted against her
NO she irritated me so much in this book
I was so freaking disappointed
also, side note, don’t the Asteri have augurs or essentially those people from Minority Report that can see the future? Like hundreds of them, and they were all looking for Bryce?
welcome back queeeeen, sending good vibes for your exam results 🫶〰️
queen is backkkk
I didn't even realise it had come out until I spotted it in Kmart, and then of course I needed to buy it to hate-read between chapters of Radium Girls (which is an amazing book but very heavy going)
So like, I can get behind all of SJM's books being in a shared universe, but am I to understand that Celine My Heart Will Go On Dion was involved in the siege of Troy? Or did I black out during the video...
🤣 that would be hilarious. But no, I think it's just a placeholder name for the character
SJM isn't a good writer but house of earth and blood imo was actually decent. She actually focused on a fun plot and wrote a healthy enough relationship to root for much better than Acotar and Tog. Which are atrocious book series.
So reading Sky and Breath and Flame and Shadows was just so disappointing. I don't know if they're worse than Tog or Acotar but I was just so upset.
I need to just stop reading SJM but I do it to fit in I guess because so many people love it even though her books are evidently not good but half the book community consumes them and I want to be apart of that and I just can't.
If Leigh Bardugo had written these books maybe I'd be singing a different tune but alas. 😔
After my allergy meds induced nap this is the best thing I could've woken to
I keep thinking I should read this series but then someone throws some plot points at me and i'm like... hmm nevermind lol
Bryce is Iron Man. There, I said it.
you walking back on literally everything you said about Celine’s(?) monologue absolutely sent me
I was litteraly waiting for you to tell me they taught the maincharacter old fey by boinking her. The pill thing was kind of anticlimactic. 😅
What do you mean side characters dont matter ?? Celine Dion is literally right there
Girl, I read your review on Goodreads and was waiting for you to make the video 💀
I have to admit I read the book quite fast and I thought at first that I liked it ... But... From the beginning to the end, no character made any sense (maybe Nesta did). I couldn't stop myself from thinking each page "but btw, why has Bryce to never tell a f*ck to anyone about her plans ?" (other than building artificial tension), "why are the people from the other world putting her right away in some kind of cell like she deserves punishment ?", "why Hunt needs to be so over depressed and boring for such a long period ?", "is there a point at having suddenly all the side characters to be chiefs of some sort ?", and so on.... I think it killed any kind of willing suspension of disbelief I had left :/
Oh thank god I'm not the only person that hated this book lol And her smut scenes are so cringey. She needs to just stop writing them.
I love listening to your videos while I code haha
Oh my!! THIS!!
I haaaaated this book so much. I hate Nesta and in this book when we had Nesta and Bryce, I had a strong feeling that Sarah switched their characters, because first time in a century I didn’t mind Nesta but completely loathed Bryce. If there were no names, I wouldn’t know who was who.
I was so mad on the entire plot and on the attitude of our MC that I sent over 30 screenshots to my friends, fuming over this “masterpiece”.
We waited for so long for this?
I read all theories and they were amaaazing, and absolutely none of them were true.
200+ pages of Bryce and Nesta in the caves🤢 I didn’t need that, thanks.
Also I remember how people hated on feysand in 2 books and their too sweet love, for me it was cool, but Bryce and Hunt🤢 Every second “my mate”, “my queen”, “let this world burn because I need to save my mate”. It was too much. I didn’t like their relationship in 2 book, Hunt lost his personality and here I not just didn’t care about them, I felt sick all the time. Don’t believe in their love🤷🏻♀️
CC3 is such a disappointment, as well as Silver flames. I had none expectations towards the last one, so it didn’t matter. But CC3…
Sarah is losing her ability to write.
After giving it some thought, I've decided that I'm not going to read it. Because even though I consider myself a Sara J. Maas fan, House of Sky and Breath was a 2 star book for me. Like, I had to force myself to finish it just to get to that cliff hanger... And I was kind of excited for this one, but then saw the kindle price and was shocked. It was almost 17 euros! I'm sorry, but I'm not paying that amount for a kindle book lol. House of Sky and Breath was like 12, and I already thought that was expensive... Anyways, I downloaded Amazon's free sample of the book and... it did not convince me to keep reading lol. I am uploading a video to my channel this week where I rant about all of this in case anyone is interested 😂😂😂
I’m mad I can never get those hours back that I wasted on this hot mess of a book
A Court of Silver Flames is the Book that Shall Not Be Named here - IMO, that's when SJM's writing took a sharp turn into not being enjoyable for me. I hate Nesta's book and Acotar is my favorite book series of all time.
Yess that's definitely when her writing changed.... not for the better.
I tried reading the book but it was honestly just kinda boring, I only got to chapter 7
this rant is so funny I literally have tears in my eyes help
i've only read the first acotar book, but i am here for the sjm hate
Look, SJM wrote this book like an anime. I read a paranormal fantasy DBZ, Sailormoon, Naruto-esque villian like story.
The language senzu bean. The otherworldly princess mates to a guy older than her. Stars coming out of chests (in sailormoon they’re crystals). The power boosts at the end. The Otsotsuki world eating villians. The story is so much more passable reading it like an anime
Also, I really dislike the theme “through love all is possible.” Love didn’t fix the trauma. Love isn’t going to fix your socioeconomic problems. You know what helped Bryce fixed those? Murder. Straight up revolution with batman Lidia and a war-experienced mate who she never went for advice
I hated the 2nd book much, so I am here for this hate!
Not gonna lie, the 5 separate bonus chapters thing is probably the smartest thing she's ever done; she's learning from that k-pop marketing it seems. It's really interesting to see this kind of a rant review from someone who actually anticipated liking it; I personally wonder if SJM even edits her work anymore... Nice to know her writing STILL isn't improving.
Wow this book seems to be a weird mess
You made me laugh so hard I cried and also woke my boyfriend who was sleeping in another room. So thank you very much for this magnificent review/recap! I will often think of Arugula floating in space :)
I've never read a Crescent City novel and I don't care to-I'm just here for Sophie and the hate 🥰
You had me at Celine Dion 🤣💀
I am dead at the "Perry Cox" comment
2:37 in and im already floored. this is... an hour long
I love this video so much. I didnt like the 1st or 2nd book much either but was hoping for everything to come together/some character growth/more with the crossover?? This book was so bad I couldn't believe it was real, and every part of the ending was so unrealistic, confusing or downright cheesy it was just such a let down. Thank you for this over 80 minutes of validation in my opinion and laughs because you're funny af
I did not love it, but I didn’t hate it. It’s crazy to say this because it’s over 800 pages, but it felt like it was written fast.
"Arugula" ... amazing
Poor Rigelus
Calling Rigelus “Arugula” made me cackle
Sophie is always ready to hate 🤘
Heck yeah! I saw that book at Walmart and I really wanted a review because it looked like something booktube would rant about 😂
I know its for the content, but I'm inpressee someone is willing to read a sequel to two books they didnt like.
House of Rysand only being in this book for five seconds and still being over powered af
I'm back because she's back
I am destroyed every time you mention Volturi 😀😀
Sophie you are my hero. Thank you for your sacrifice 🤣
Arugula 😂😂😂 I'm sold. Subscribed ✅️
I gave it a 3. I didn’t like Bryce in this book. I liked ruhn & lydia. The fendyr heir subplot was boring and just irrelevent. I think she tried the whole “im two steps ahead” like Aelin for Bryce. It didn’t work. .
i want to see you read and review something you find good (at least a 4)
24:10 When I went to the Bruce-orama (Bruce Campbell, lead actor in Evil Dead and stars in tons of Sam Raimi movies) one of the impractical jokers showed up (Quinn) to participate in trivia with the audience about Bruce Campbell himself, who hosted the show, and the entire crowd rooted so badly against Quinn and in favor of the random nerd who wiped the floor with him that Bruce seemed shocked at how much we wanted Quinn to lose, and commented on it almost like he was disappointed that the audience didn’t like him. He has clearly never visited New York because we commit to the bit and that random comic shop nerd was representing us, he obliterated Quinn. It was incredible, we loved it
I am half through and I dislike everybody and it‘s so boring… appearently she rewrote it once bc she was not satisfied with the first version… that‘s a bad sign
“she sold her parents to One Direction” 😂
Lmaoooo you are hilarious 😂😂
flynn has been in three books and not done a single thing of importance. why is he even here
34:25 this took me out 🤣🤣🤣 me too girl, same feelings on that front
Sophie, where've you been, loca?
i LOVED LOVED ACOTAR. sky and breath was a drag to read but i managed and was somewhat excited to see how it blends in flames and shadows and i am SEVERELY DISAPPOINTED!! TOO MANY Chapters that werent relevant and important?? i had to skip some cuz it was stressing me out because it felt like a teen written wattpad fic wheres theres too much tension for big fat nothing
Acotar is still bad tho.. i mean.. All of thr characters and books of sjm sucks anyway
Did Bryce get her parents back 😂??
Who’s daniquoa
I was expecting TOG characters to show up. Honestly, my favorite parts were the only parts that referenced TOG. Like Lidias heritage- but what was the point? Like what good did it do to move the plot. Pretty disappointing.
Wow.. okay.. I usually really LOVE Sarah j Maas but I can’t stand that some book stores get special chapters..it’s tacky and further kills her “no, but I’m a real fantasy/erotic novelist”. Now, I was SO excited for Bryce to be in the other world so we could visit with the other team. I never liked nesta really either but the sex scenes are good in her whole book. Whatever.. this book.. flame and shadow.. was too long.. should have been edited down.. too many characters. Reads like word/idea vomit.. I mean.. is this the wheel of time books 8-11? I had such hopes:(
I have to disagree on one thing : Bryce IS NOT the best person out there ! I loved her in book 1, she annoyed me in 2 but by book 3 I hated her... That's juste my opinion of course ahah ! Otherwise : I agree !!!!
Edit : You say later that she is very unlikable so we DO agree on everything ahah ! And yes to the Aelin comment too ! Bryce is no Aelin !!
snaps
Who tf is Lydia???
The hind
Not the democracy thing again 🤦🏻♀️ she did that in tog as well 🙄
I haven't read crescent city because the book covers arnt pretty.
😂😂 mine's on the way and I am trying not to regret buying SJM
Oh wow I love you.
Idk I absolutely loved it and I’ve read every single book Sarah has written and I loved the book especially the little ties to throne of glass, I really enjoyed it, wasn’t my fav because cc is my least fav out of the three series. But still like the book was still good and the lidia development made it for me, like she carried the book in my opinion. Soooo idk I loved it and it was very enjoyable and I’m excited to see where these series go since all three of her series are intertwining🤷♀️
I mostly enjoyed the read because I have a preexisting care for certain characters and if I am emotionally invested I’ll read just about anything about them, but it was def the weakest I’ve read from her and I felt it had way too many convenient solutions and some of the plot lines (ITHAN ESPECIALLY OMG) felt so… pointless? Hunt’s character also felt so reduced here. I liked Hunt and Bryce in the first book because they both had their own strong motivations separate to each other that just ended up complementing each others goals. But Hunt here just felt like his only personality trait was how much he wants/loves Bryce and idk if that’s supposed to be romantic but it just feels underdeveloped and fuckin weird.
The biting ruhn’s hand off… lol. I think it was just supposed to be super brutal but it felt forced and it did nothing for me, or for them considering it doesn’t help them escape anyway lol. Like it was just for shock factor but it’s not even shocking in this context. Confusing, yes, but not shocking. Strange choice.
Also the way all the lore was just told to us like a documentary was disappointing. Also, the world of Acotar is so vivid and rich and we spent the whole time underground🥲
Anyway, I didn’t hate the book because I still had a good enough time but I definitely was questioning a lot of Sarah’s choices lol I felt like I just had to turn my brain completely off.
I read the Crescent City series because I was told about the spoiler at the end of book two. I genuinely have enjoyed ACOTAR, particularly ACOMAF and ACOSF because of the character growth. The characters in that series, ACOTAR, feel real to me and grounded (at least most of the time). I genuinely enjoy reading those ones. The Crescent City series however....I haven't enjoyed reading any of them. The characters feel out of place, they don't feel like they actually have personalities if that makes sense? Like she adds the sarcasm, which is cool and I like those dialogue moments, but to have them all the time---even in serious scenes? It feels out of place and I don't enjoy the character interactions. I was excited to read the newest one because of the existence of ACOTAR in it and actually seeing how those characters would all interact, and we barely got any of it. I wish it had been more drawn out, the pacing also felt way too fast. Sarah's strong point as an author comes when she lets her characters drive the story, not the plot, which is what she did in ToG and for much of the Crescent City series---which is why I feel no strong connection to many of the characters. The side characters feel more compelling than Bryce, particularly Ruhn and Lidia, but like?? Their interactions feel forced sometimes.
I could honestly go on and on as to why I don't like Bryce as a character. It has nothing to really do with her being hot headed or jumping the gun, but rather she is made out to be like this analytical thinker, who is crafty and sneaky but it just...Doesn't fit? Like she is overly judgmental (which I don't mind, but that isn't really challenged it feels like at all), and what little the new book does to try and challenge that (like in her judgments about the Fae) it just doesn't actually feel well versed---there is no internal struggle. I also couldn't tell 90% of the time who's POV we were supposed to be following. I didn't care about a lot of the subplots, and overall I was just really disappointed.
I HATE NESTA (I am so against her)
Best review. what a shit show of a book.
Yassssss
😭😭😭😭🤣🤣
This the ONLY book of hers I was able to read, it was great. The main girl was actualy likable not the mess like the ones before.
'promosm' 😜
I actually loved the book and the series. I really like SJM's writing, but if you were looking for a romance, this is not it. It has romantic moments but I've read far more romantic books. If you were looking for an ACOTAR story because of the crossover, this is not it. This is a Crescent story, it's not about ACOTAR. It had crossover elements, cameo appearances, but this is not an ACOTAR story. It's not a TOG story. I personally think the cross over was done very well. I loved it. I guess it all depends on your expectations. I wanted a good STORY and that's what I got. It was action packed and entertaining. What's funny to me is that most of the comments here are people who haven't even read the book... just bashing SJM. If you don't like her, that's your choice, don't read her books. There's plenty of other writers that would love your patronage. SJM could care less, she's laughing all the way to the bank with her chart topping books. More power to her.
It was a disappointment but Maas is still my girl
so basically you did a 1:21:17 video to tell the world how much you hated the book. I could be ok with that, but you swore the whole time, everything was bad, that characted was not it, the other one was irrelevant, no one was important. Hmm... why read it then? Why waste the time and finish it? Even tho I liked the book, I did not love it like the other ones in the series, and I can accept that some points you had were correct, but the way you talked about them was not it. I am usually a person that has unpopular opinions, but I do not throw hate around like candies. I checked other videos on your page and you seem to really hate books. Nothing is good enough. Interesting. I am curious what type of books do you actually like, or are you making these videos and monitize them for throwing hate around? Just asking... I stumbled upon this video and since I am interested to see what other people think about the books I like/love, this video was just... not it! A lot of people disliked this book, hated it even, but the way they expressed their opinion was so valid and beautiful I had to admire their opinion and appreciate the time they spent in sharing it with others. Myeah, it is safe to say this channel is not for me. No offense for anyone who likes the content, but maybe something less toxic would be a better alternative. Have a nice day!
If you knew you would hate it, because as you said "I don't really cared that much", why did you read it at all? Just so you can make a rant video? I did not really liked this book either, but I paid attention while I was reading it. If I have not, why would I spend days reading it? It would be a waste of my time, really.
Money.
Also hating is fun asf. You should try it