A BRUTAL SIEGE TO THE LAST SECOND - Siege Battle - Total War: Rome 2
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- A BRUTAL SIEGE TO THE LAST SECOND - Siege Battle - Total War: Rome 2
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Update: Corby Fist Baiter have agreed that they did lose the battle. Took to long to attack. Hungry Wolves are moving on to the championship. Vote does not matter now.
The question is how the fuck did they ended with 57% in their favor? I think there is a lot of trolls in there.
Pixelated Apollo how did the attackers lose if the archers are breaking and there is still 6 seconds left on the clock?
@@chimken99 because the time ran out. Defenders win if time runs out.
Yes right decision
Josiah Horn one they ran out of time two they used that strat to push through troops causing them to cause chaos and kill a lot of units. If you argue saying that tower thing is part of the game then so is the time mechanism.
Siege Towers: Exist
Rubble, streets, houses, soldiers: Am I a joke to you?
didn't medieval 2 and Rome 1 had actual troops push the towers to make them move, now in Rome 2 it is magic. try this in the older total war games and your troops outside would be entangled in battle and the ones pushing the wheels have to stop and fight.
@@Historyfan476AD Rome 2 does have troops push the tower unless the unit is depleted enough then i guess Gandalf and Dumbledore team up to send the tower on it's way.
Everyone we need to go vote for hungry votes doesn't matter if u want them to win the final or not and the other team wins they will rig the finals as well
@@ARMOREDSCARUB never liked the magic towers moving thing, in a historical setting game i mean.
Love seeing HW somehow magically lose the straw poll (a lot like how those towers were magically moving) and something equally as magical, I cannot seem to find more than 2 supporters for Corby in the comments... but you know, they definitely had 5,000 people willing to vote for them in the straw poll, but none of them could be bothered to leave a comment
Who wins: A professional army in a defensive line or one tall siege boi
the attackers just pushed trough.... it's a shame.
Gay
@@strategosexaluber9794 I think that the defensive line would win because all that is propelling the tower forward are the troops on the bottom floor pushing, so if someone was pushing a siege tower at a group of soldiers, they would just have to push back. The weight of the tower would end up being meaningless, unless it was on a hill.
@@strategosexaluber9794 That makes since, forgot momentum was a thing for a bit.
This shouldn’t even be put to a vote: Hungry Wolves won according to the rules. Korby Fist Baiter was lucky they were even allowed to make it this far. It’s a huge conflict of interest for the host of the tournament to be playing in it. I’m sick of him abusing his position to keep advancing his team even though they broke the rules and should have been disqualified. Apollo was very generous to them last time, but KFB has the gall to continue taking advantage of him.
They ruined what was otherwise a great match with rules-lawyering bullshit. I don’t care what the voting results are; the only right way to resolve this is to declare Hungry Wolves the winner and move on without KFB.
hungry wolves win
# Justice for Hungry Wolves. In the spirit of the game Hungry wolves are the true winners of this game. This would have been an awesome match to watch but using the siege tower to go over the rubble and break up the defenders formation was really unfair. This allowed the attackers to flank the defenders who lost a lot of units in the game play.
Also, the attackers ran out of time and lost anyway.
Justice for Hungry Wolves!
Sorry I skipped to the end to see what you needed help deciding on. The hungry wolves should most definitely go through. Technically by the rules they won (Korby didn’t win in the allotted time) and Korby Fist Baiter imo should have forfeited initially anyway.
I agree
Agree. Also KFB used super cheesy and dishonorable tactics, they didn't win at all. The timer was here and it's in the rules. HW won, KFB only got till here because they have the host of the tournament in the team. They should have been disqualified when they didn't show up and now they need to loose because they were dishonorable and still lost due to the timer. Period.
Nicholas Szoyka well on discord Kronic stated that HW should win
If he thinks they should get the win pull your team back from arguing
I agree
Corby Fish Baiter 3 strikes and you're out :)
1. No show
2. Fishy tactics
3. lose on time
I agree with you. Hungry wolves won !
Your comment is underrated, Goddam if you're right
2 of your reasons aren't valuable, them not showing in a battle that was only going to decide who gets to choose what side they play isn't valuable because it isn't part of this battle and the tactics they used is up to them, if wanted to win then they did what they wanted to win there is no problem with their tactics, the only reason is that they didn't win on time and they should follow the rules.
Even the poll is shady now 71% - 29% in favor of Corby Fish Baiter
@@thomasdadd9071 Actually your facts are wrong. CFB didn't show up to the final battle, they won the battle to decide whether they defended or attacked. Apollo didn't want CFB to lose by dq, so recommended HW to choose either to attack or defend. The tower glitch is well known and not used because it is so cheesy. Apollo kept mentioning how cheesy and cringe worthy it was. There is no defense against it and no push through unless it's a cavalry unit is a generally accepted rule, especially with towers. The Kush player even acknowledged it in posts here and even though he said it was accidental, you can see it was blatantly intentional. Even with that, CFB still lost
Not to make any accusations but Korby was behind by 1000 for most of the day and I just checked about an hour ago and they’d suddenly jumped up by 4000. Looks a little fishy to me
They gained like 6k in three minutes it’s being botted
@@seangallagher9435 not 6000 but about 5000
there is IP checking
Just an hour ago Hungry Wolves were winning in the straw poll and suddenly Corby Fist Baiter have 5k votes..... seems the cheesyness doesn't end at the siege towers does it?
Foda né mano? Bando de ladrões
For real
definitely being botted
Corby is a bunch of assholes.
Unfortunately it appears that unless it is addressed the Cheating and rule breaking team will advance and since this was suggested by pixelated apillo I almost feel he is at least in part responsible.
"The siege tower is just strolling through the defenses!" ~Apollo 2019
It's going alllll the way home!
To be honest I was on KFB's side until now.. But this is just an abuse of game glitches imo.. They even got the second chance and still cheesed it to a new level of ridiculous. Bet you if Hungry Wolves had picked attackers KFB would've somehow thrown the defensive ballistas at them.. Complete yes for Hungry Wolves here. Honorable and fair opponents!
As soon as I saw CFB push those siege towers through the hoplite phalanx they lost all respect from me, dont know about the rest of you. That's just cheesy tactics. Hungry wolves still managed to defend till CFB ran outta time. Hungry wolves should definitely get the win.
Edit: What's going on with the poll?? 90% of the comments on here are for the Hungry Wolves, and yet CFB is way ahead?? I call bullshit.
That is bullshit for sure
I agree with you it's total BS that they're getting those votes, used a cheesy tactic, and ran out of time. They shouldn't even get a choice instant disqualification.
Yeah, CFB, I think we all expected better from you.
The way they used the siege towers was very disappointing - they were good enough to win without them but very unhanded tactics.
That was bullshit indeed, using a game glitch in a competitive strategy game is bullshit
The rules are the rules they lost bc of time limit. And they should have been DQ anyway bc they exploited a glitch in the game and didn't show up for the match
that siege tower stuff is so unfair it's pretty much a total war exploit
i did not even know you could use the towers like that, yeah i know you could move them into the city streets but never as some unstoppable barricade.
HistoryFan476ad war is about exploits
And becouse of that they should be disqualified imo.
It’s dumb that there going to have to be chesy to win
Jedi Temple Guard while that is true, it very hard to draw a line on reality vs game when everybody has a different opinion on how close those two are in total war.
Guys the defenders clearly won they didn't break any rules and won on time. The attackers clearly used cheesy tactics and should have be DQ for not making there match. I encourage everyone to vote for the defenders
Yea they used exploits and still managed to lose
HW also missed a time slot and failed to play, cfb allowed a reschedule but IRL happened.
The atackers "technicly" didnt break the rules, but "technicly" it says the defenders won cause of time
All vote for Hungry Wolfes
otowise I believe it is correct as Ulfr didn’t show up because of the time zone. They tried to change it to a day it worked. Realistically what difference would it make if played on a Saturday? Once everyone was on. HW tried to win on a technicality because they got their assed handed to them in the land battle. They also cheated by being too much art. They had 4 all together despite rules stating 1 each
Hey guys. I am on the team Hungry Wolves. I just wanted to say thank you all for watching this tourney and all the battles that have come so far. Remember there are 2 other teams series of battles to come. Please keep an eye out for them. I am sure they will be great battles. As for the happenings in todays replay, it was nothing I have ever seen before, that I can say for certain. Again, thank you for all of the support for HW. We really appreciate you words and votes.
You deserve better!
You clearly played by the rules and won by the rules. Don't let korby take this from you. This victory is yours. Stand up and fight for it.. I would hate to see this injustice continue.
Honour above all. Hungry wolves won. Shame to KFB for having the audacity to start a debate over the match victor. As if they didn't loose their honour already.
Demos Tychalas spoken like a true warrior
Hungry wolfs won.
1. they showed up to all battles
2. they didnt use glitchy siegetowers
3. attackers didnt make it in time
And yet they lost the vote as it stands now. But Hungry wolves should have won within the rules.
cfb won. everybody just salty about siege boi's which is a cheesy and lame tactic but regardless they still lost but crying. and they didnt run out of time the had 6 seconds left on the clock so they didnt run out of time. and the show up to battles is irrelevant. HW got outplayed simple
Net banger to be fair, if you are going to accept the cheesy siege tower strat as legitimate than you also have to accept that the game declared Hungry Wolves the winner with 6 seconds on the clock. Neither is against the rules, only one determines who wins.
@@theprimevegan5410 Only pbecause of bots
TEXAS A&M FAN 8to
The Strawpoll is rigged.. Pixelated Apollo better look at the comments to realize who actually won this...
hungry wolves won
I was completely shocked when I looked at it like seriously that's a ridiculously cheap tactic they completely screwed their defense chances
Just because comments say one thing, doesnt mean votes are false. Use your brain. Thats like if someone doesnt speak their opinion about an election, they vote, and the person with the loudest voice says the other votes dont matter because they didnt talk about it.
They wasted too much time to push those seige towers, hence lost. H W wins.
Hate to see it kfb wants to win with cheesy tactics doesnt work then desides to bot the strawpoll shame on kfb
I agree, its ridiculous that they are doing all this, especially for the leader of the tournament bending the rules and outright cheating in the polls, shameful
Are they using bots? I wouldn't be surprised after what they have done...
It's not fair that KFB go to the finals,they didn't take the city in time.As Apollo said if they had more time they would've won but they ran out of time which means that Hungry Wolves won.That is a rule,if attacker doesn't defeat the enemy or takes the town center in given time period,attacker loses the battle.I can't believe that KFB has more votes than Hungry Wolves.
You don’t know for certain that the team is using Bots in the polls
@@danielfitzgerald3968 we do 1000 votes in 10 mins lol
Cheese tactic, didnt show up, and still lost on time, whats to decide.
Alexander Vanasse wait who won?
Shouldn’t even be a decision at this point, can’t agree more!
@@tstocleanyt6356 HW, by law of the game.
Agreed 100%
Hungry wolves won... they used the way the game works (time limit) to win. That was their tactic and does not break any rules...
The “we would have killed the archers” argument whilst true is irrelevant because, well they didn’t... they ran out of time and the game itself says “enemy victory”
60 minutes is more than enough time for tournament level players to win or lose. most things in tournaments have time limits so moaning that you could not win due to time limit is rather sore since you should have planned for the limited time.
Something is worng with voting. An hour or two ago they were head to head and now CFB have couple thousands vote more
it´s probably getting fake votes from bots for CFB.
TheWhiteStar666 it’s botting they gained thousands of votes in like 3 minutes
Maybe there were all just a little late to the vote like corby was late to the battle 🤷🏼♂️ lol jk
Within the last 5 mins CFB has gone up over 600 votes and The Hungary Wolves maybe 50. If you watch the voting it almost looks like a bot voting for CFB with how rapidly the votes are racking up compared to the Hungry Wolves.
Ikr
Update within about 15 mins CFB has gone up over 1000 votes, The Hungry Wolves only around 100.
Yup every single comment here is on hungry wolves side and they r hard losing on votes there's something fishy right there.. I was on CFB side but this match made me so mad... They should be banned by Apollo since the admin is a member of the team and clearly a cheater
The Bot seems to be off now but the numbers are so far off now that Idk if the will be able to balance out.
@@isaacregier5179 if every single person gone vote it could go for hungry wolves but they would use bots again and not every single person is voting
The siege tower tactic the attackers used was just downright unfair, the defenders couldn't do anything as the attackers just strolled past their formations with no problem not even having to fight for it around 28 minutes into the video
I agree it was stupid and unfair and honestly ruined the first 28 minutes of the battle it’s pretty lame watching Siege towers simply walk through defenders
Faulted Bull9933 that’s kind of on KFB for not showing up though and they both agreed to the compromise they chose the map
Dude this map sucks for attackers
@Faulted Bull9933 HW did win
But its not against rules or anything.
Hungry Wolves won I feel like korby fist baiter only had enough soldiers to win because of the cheesy af tower trick. The loaded them up with weakened soldiers then ran them through.
i miss the older games where the towers where not moved by magic but instead actual troops assigned to the towers. in Rome 1 or Medieval 2 try this and your troops would get butchered behind the tower and the ones pushing it stopped.
@Ty Matheson HW won by time, it's what the game itself says
@Ty Matheson they didn't break they were wavering they still had control and were running them are on the wall if every unit breaks then the match is over if they would have broken it would have given the victory to the attackers
No way, the poll is being botted lmao
Exactly, no way almost 8 thousand people voted for kfb already, the video itself only has 14k views
Absolutely
Yea there cheating or something
Simply put: almost doesn't count. The defenders literally won. It literally says ON THE SCREEN that the defenders won. That's how this game works, like it or not.. The attackers are just salty for letting their troops stand around a few seconds too long. Idk how someone could think they win when there's a big pop up on the screen telling them they lost😂. What kind of jedi mind trick is that? The attackers had more than enough time and recorces to capture the center, but they didn't. That's on them. There's NO excuses. It would be wrong if the hungry wolves don't move onto the final round. Hungry wolves played by the rules and won fair and square. What more could you ask of them?
What will you say to them if they don't get to move onto the final round? "oh, I know you won... But the losers claimed they also won so we have to let the people, who already don't like you, vote for who moves on🤷♂️."
You seem like a great guy, Apollo. That's why I recently subscribed. But you know who really won regardless of the votes. This would be a bad precedent to set.
Don't take this away from the rightful victors.
From what I've studied in law school, precedents are very important. For similar cases I've studied, although not an exact translation to gaming, the winner wins and the loser loses regardless of what anyone thinks. That's why the game displays the winner/loser on the final screen.
Exactly...that is what I was saying, it literally said who won on the screen after the battle, I dont cant what anyone says, HG can literally screen shot the screen with the box that says they won, hard evidence...pun intended, hence you studying law.....lol
I couldn't agree more.
try looking at the time counter ;) ended on 00:06. Glitched replay by my count. Of course exploiting game not very cool
Apollo said OK to let people vote BEFORE he saw the replay, there's a comment of him saying that, had he watched it before accepting KFB's request, he would probably have said no and given the win to the Hungry Wolves.
Plus, I think someone hacked the poll (not necessarily KFB members, probably someone supporting them or someone trying to make everyone rage bc he obviously saw in the comments that everyone was for HW). KFB gained several thousand votes in a few minutes - obviously not real people.
Finally, I think on top of game rules saying HW won... glitching the game like that is just not fair, especially since they had already twisted the rules to their advantage. Being allowed to stay in the tourney after not showing up should have made them a bit more respectful and fair, but hey I supposed the rules didn't say that pushing siege equipment was cheating (side note : in most Total War tourneys now, it's not allowed any more).
My biggest problem is that their main argument that they should have the win is realism: obviously they had an overwhelming numerical advantage at the end, and the defenders won by cheesing a bit and getting one unit as far away from the fight as possible. Had this been IRL, they would have crushed HW.
HOWEVER. Had this been IRL, they _would not have physically been able_ to chaotically dismantle the enemy front line by pushing some EXTREMELY TOP-HEAVY, relatively fragile and MASSIVE wooden contraptions filled with soldiers through meters of rubble, _phasing through_ other friendly siege towers and moving themselves with the magical power of cheese and exploit once there were few enough troops inside the tower. That they should call upon realism to claim their win when they so obviously just farted in realism's face is shameful.
(I know I'm rly late to the show but hey just throwing my opinion out there ^^')
I'm so Team Hungry Wolves.
They're winning this tournament, I've been voting for them since the first time I saw them fight.
What?
Eli-Rose same
Definitely Hungry wolves the game even said they had won
how is it that all of the comment are people saying that the hungry wolves won but the poll is the complete opposite?
you know theres something called bots
They could have also promoted it with misinformation on another site
Hungry wolves won. The game says they won. Plus Corby cheated.
Hungry wolves had one unit left and the cfb didn’t kill them plus the clock ran out and they didn’t capture the capture point so i think it’s safe to say that the hungry wolves won
I don't even wanna watch it . Just disqualify them, they should even know that this isn't fair
@@solowingpixy8190 nothing wrong but you state two things that are wrong yourself lol
@@solowingpixy8190 that two things contradicts themselfs. If its a glitch it is wrong. You probably ment exploit insted of glitch. But it's still not ok in my opinion to use exploit like this to break throw the enemy lines.
@@solowingpixy8190 Disgraceful act , Do you have no honour
You said yourself the rule is "no pushing through" DQ as soon as that occurred with the tower, Hungry Wolves won through time, obvious result.
That’s what I call pure Karma, they used the tower exploit against hungry wolves and the hungry wolves won through time:
In my opinion Hungry Wolves are the clear winners in this match
Bastian Friedrich how? The clock on the bottom right was 6 seconds when the screen for loss showed up.
@@ammarnadeem6571 hungry wolves won because they played the clock and the the capture flag didn't bear the attackers flag...
They fucking cheated fuck this seriously
prince hypnotic who cheated Hungry Wolves or KFB?
@@beefmadeoutofpork6789 KFB
just glitch/bug using… how can someone do this in a Tournament? This is just outrageous, i am sorry they didnt deserved the win with that utterly unfair tactic and not because of the time running out
It's HIS own tournament so I bet he planned to use these tactics from the start
I wouldn't mind if they used the siege towers in like a wall through the streets, stopping movement altogether as that has been done historically, but using them to just break formations is a bit cheaty
@@krogar3156 exactly. and to do this when they should have already been gone is outrageous
Siege towers also have op af scorpions on top so they can provide fire support for infantry in the city. Perhaps siege ladders would be better for tournaments given the amount of cheese you can do with them.
oliver worley especially when there isn’t enough men to actually push the tower from the ground so they can’t be stopped
Personally Hungry Wolves have lived up to the rules set by the guy who set the tournament up where as he did not. He did not show up to his match on time as well as pushed through troops that was again not allowed. Yea he used the towers as an exploit to do it but still spirit of the rules should still apply, Also can't deny it was a cheating way to get past huge amounts of troops. The fact he used that exploit and still did not win within his own set time to do so shows the Hungry Wolves could have and did win this match fair and square. {0,0}
when I look at the comments, 80% wrote that CFB played unfair and HW are the clear winners.
But if you take a look at the results from the strawpoll, CFB are more than 1000 votes ahead.
That's the thing I don't understand...
@@ianfleischhacker6154 how r they winning tho?
@@Imwalkinghere24 they are glitching o using bots on the pool, they cheated once wy not do it twice
The nasty tactics and not being disqualified as kinda deligitimized this series at least in a competitive sense.
if cfb moves on this tournament is a joke and whoever wins should take no pride in being the champion, cfb was given a second chance more than any other team got and they still complained about the out come...
@@BucketlistBeatty If those assholes (who clearly lost) move on...I'm blacklisting any videos with them in it. If Apollo had any sense of dignity he'd tell them to suck a dick.
IT SHOWS COSTLY ENEMY VICTORY THE GAME DECIDES and also that siege tower push was disgusting af HUNGRY WOLVES WIN
honestly i was on korby fist baiters but yeah HUNGRY WOLVES deserves the win
how the hell did those towers move with enemy troops around them, surely anyone pushing would get cut to ribbons. this is what happens when magic is allowed to push siege towers.
You might as well bitch about the Walls breaking apart so quickly.
It's very dishonourable of the host to go back on his word, he set the rules as each match 1 hour and he should follow them instead of going back on his word just because he was very close, rules are rules they are there for a reason
Facts!
@@code7573 depending on what
@@idkidk-gr9gw My issue here is KFB is straddling the fence in terms of rules. On one hand it's not actually written that they cant use the tower trick, like Apollo said. On the other hand, it IS written that the time limit is a valid victory, theres a time limit for a reason. So KFB, which is it: do you have have to follow the rules to the letter or not?
@@draydenhill2558 ya but the siege freak was cheeky and it runnined the siege IIT wasn't a true battle
@@code7573 Look I'm sure you didn't mean to sound like a dumb bitch but....I can't enter a race step backward and cross the finish line...that isn't how it works.
Corby should have been disqualified for not showing. Then they lost because they did not win in an hour, after using EXTREMELY questionable tactics with the siege tower. (Also saw them pushing through the defenders at around 44:00.) Then Corby's results in the poll are being botted so they are way ahead now, despite nearly universal agreement in the comments by people who actually watched the fight that Hungry Wolves deserve the win.
Apollo, I won't watch the rest of this tournament if Corby is declared the winner. For what that's worth.
I'll watch the other matchup, but if Corby gets through, I'm definitely boycotting the final.
Hungry wolves won 100% 1 becuase Corbyfistbaiter didint come in time and should have been disqualified and 2 they didint take the city in time in conclusion hungry wolves won
And that siege strat was so cheesy
Hungry wolves
Siege towers pushing through defensive formations with no chance of being stopped
Not winning in the time allowed
Korby fist baiter didn’t show up to the original final battle
I can't believe people are voting for CFP after the siege tower shit show they pulled.
Poll glitch and or bot
@@Imwalkinghere24 i call bots
@@mrjumpet9176 But probably not from KFB - probably a supporter or a troll. Still, doesn't seem natural that their votes shot up so incredibly fast and took over HW
What do you mean we don’t know yea they had more soldiers but they still didn’t win the tournament rules say one hour and they didn’t take it within the hour idk why it has to be up to a vote ....
What a disappointment from a good team,CFB. Wish this was an actual match. Good luck to the hungry wolves in the finals!
Hungry wolves should be the winner, they would've had more troops if KFB didn't exploit the siege tower glitch.
The siege tower thing its more an exploit rather than a feature. Attackers ran out of time. Defenders won clean according to the rules
Everybody in comments think hungry wolves won. How come corby got so much more votes? Do they have a vote glitch 2?.?.?
Yea someone came along with a bot
it was literally 2000-50 for hungry wolves at first. the poll is glitched.
@@bravozero6 its CLEARLY rigged dumbasses should of atleast kept it close so it wasn't BLATANTLY OBVIOUS
@pixelatedApollo
Hungry Wolves won without a doubt. The defenders would’ve been able to hold the walls much longer in the beginning if the attackers didn’t force the towers through the lines. The attackers exploited the siege towers and put the defenders at a massive disadvantage and then they even ran out of time.
Corby should be disqualified - no debate needed
agree
1) no show
2) cheese towers
3) literally lost the game.
There is no question, Hungry Wolves won technically, and CFB lost morally with those game breaking tactics.
Edit: absolutely astounded that CFB is winning in the poll right now. Cmon people!
They have rigged the poll
Where this poll I want to see
Apparently they are using bots to swing the poll
@@georgebeeson1844 In the description
It's not apparently over 90% of the people in the comment section is on the side of HW and yet somehow CFB is somehow winning just comes off as odd as how quick it shifted too
Hungry Wolves won. They ran out the clock, and CFB did not have sufficient control time over the objective to win. That's the point of the hour time limit -- CFB should have pushed in harder, sooner, etc. I've lost more than one TT wargame because the clock ran out before I could secure the objective sufficiently to win. Also, CFB's tactic with the siege towers clearly violates the "no pushing through infanty" rule. This is a test of strategy, tactics, and timing, not one of "who knows more TW glitches."
You don't get few extra minutes in your exam. Do you ? So hungry wolves should be the winner here.
What about in sport when you get extended time, this isn't an exam this is basically sport but in a different and better way
@@thomasdadd9071 In football, if you didn't win on time, the match can end while you are attacking. HGW won.
@@aero2486 oh I agree I thing hungry wolves won I'm just trying to give different views, and don't quote me on anything or try to test my knowledge cos if you do my honour would have been damaged and I would be left with no choice but to challenge you to a duel
Is 1 hour short for a siege battle?
@@aussieboy4090 normally using logic if you think about sieges historically they could take asking as they want the game only set an hour so the battles don't go out of hand with time, so yeah in really an hour is short but in a game you can manage everything easier than irl so it is confusing with the time. If this battle was done irl the attackers would've won but cis its a game it makes it more confusing finding a fair solution
Siege towers shouldn't do that it's literally unreal, troops would destroy the wheels or ropes
Nobody is pushing them!
@@yaash4123 they could have walls around them but it's true lol
in the old games enemy infantry would fight and kill your tower pushers, in Rome 2 the magic keeps it rolling.
Apollo, if you allow korby to win this one, your gonna lose so much respect from so many people
Dont put the onus on him. Even Apollo said he didnt want to be in the middle of this mess.
@@eagleguy7 very weak excuse, he's making content from this vid. But when he has to actually do something (dq kfb) he doesn't want too. I have two possible reasons for this. 1. Apollo has no personality and isn't mature enought. 2. Apollo is a very good friend with the kfb player. the poll shouldn't even be there... It's straight up bullshit and very weak from Apollo.
@@brianomobee5136 True this, if the rigged votes will decide KFB wins i unsub and move along.
No im not personally involved into any team but this stinks a lot.
I was about to say the same thing after checking the poll which is being botted. He put himself in the middle by not wanting CFB to be dq when they didn't show. He should step up and declare HW the victors.
@@brianomobee5136 apollo may not have made the best decision about this round; I see your point there. However, i wouldnt go too hard on apollo. I'd just put it down to indecisiveness in a lose-lose situation. He tried to fix things up, and his decision from the previous round seemed fair. However, now that he decided the previous round, they both look to him for this controversial, cheesy round.
I swear. If korby fist baiter is in the finals. I will be avoiding watching pixies videos until it is fixed, who all is with me?
I won't avoid the channel, but I sure won't watch any more of this sham tournament. Hungry Wolves clearly deserve the win, three times over. Once for actually showing up for the match, once for having very cheesy mechanics used against them, and for surviving the clock.
@@SK-gc7xv problem here is your hurting apollo there who although gave them a second chance is not the actual people who have done wrong in this scenario.
I would unsub
@@krogar3156 the problem is he knows that polls can be rigged and he COULD that say he is rigging it for his friend that is what some people think is going on
I swear to good if corny fist batter win iwilll unsubcribee topixie
38:37 _incredible pike battle_
soldier on left: waiting?
another on left: yep, still waiting, no worry
The siege tower thing is bullshit, I mean that can completely destroy a formation and I think it's a bit unfair, like c'mon it can't be possible that nobody sad nothing about that. Anyway HW are the real winners and that's a fact.
@@Fau1ted man they almost won because of that siege tower thing. AND they even ran out of time, so rules are rules, they actually lost even if they had more troops.
@@Fau1ted yeah but then you allow the other glitches too, like the "push through" glitch which allows you to walk past a unit without being stopped. It's cheesy and honestly dishonorable and it's allowed only by a glitch which shouldn't be there. Corby Fish Baiter not only lost the battle, but with that move they lost their credibility too.
@@Fau1ted and I would like to underline that they should have been disqualified, so it's useless to say that it's not fair that they didn't get to choose what side to pick even tho they won the pitch battle. They were out. No coming back from that.
@@gauntlettcf5669 maaan we're thinking the same things, totally agreed with you
@@Fau1ted it WAS cheesy (and dishonorable) and they DID loose. Nothing more to argue. Sportsmanship is still a thing, and the players who used a pitiful glitch in order to win should not be allowed take the win. Glitches don't make you a better tactician nor a better player, they just make you a worse loser. They even allowed them not to be disqualified straight away and yet they wanted to pull this bs tactic. No matter what, they lost for me. Also again, the timer thing is legit. HW won fair and square.
hungry wolves win
cfb be like
nah man we won
Question of the poll should have been is using exploits oke
Either they broke rules or not with siege towers it doesn't matter they losed the battle it also doesn't matter how many units they had they run out of time!
I say the defenders won and that siege tower tactic should be outlawed going forward. Why is Apollo so indecisive on this? The defenders clearly won!
@@Darek_B52 it's clear that defenders won and i don't think they will lose on votes
The attackers used the most cheekiest of techniques to win but karma hit 'em right
If using seige towers was in allowance than winning Upto time (whether or not the defenders had any troops left) then Defender must be given the victory...
Wolves won, timer run out to bad.
"If Corby had 5 mins more they have had won" is not a valid arguement.
Apollo, what the hell! Are you favoring popular vote because gives you more views or what? You are giving every opportunity to corby. CFB should forfeit in first place, but for the show, I agree in giving a second chance to CFB. Then, they use the cheesy tactics with the towers and even lost on time!!! So, HW won it like 3 times!!! Why are you still give CFB another cheesy chance?
This poll would make sense if CFB won with cheesy tactics and HW should win because of it. Since HW won on time as the game said, I looks like you are favoring your friend instead of being fair.
Actually he agreed to the vote before he watched the replay : both teams ran to him just after the battle ended, before he had time to know anything other that they were both claiming to win and seemed to have good arguments (defenders keeping a single unit aside is a bit cheesy, though obviously not as ridiculously unfair as the siege tower exploit).
There's a comment of him saying that, now that he has watched the replay, he would give the win to HW had he not given his word for the poll.
On top of that, the poll has been blatantly hacked - KFB were behind HW by abt a 1000 or so and suddenly withing 10mn the balance had totally shifted and they were in the lead by 4000 votes (probs not a KFB member but someone supporting them or an idiot trying to troll everyone and sow chaos).
Hungry Wolves eventually won anyways, so GG to them for holding out against some frankly unfair tactics.
Also, I think it isn't fair to be so harsh on Apollo - he obviously doesn't like the spot he's in, he didn't even sign up for this as he was only supposed to watch and comment the replays...
the attackers were playing dirty
They should be disqualified, this is not right man.
They were given a second chance only to use it to abuse another game mechanic.
Diego Lavega who?
Getting a second chance and then being unsportmanslike SMH... Why? It's obviously not an intended tactic being able to push stuff through units, it's exploiting the game and very much not being a good sport.
vote Hungry Wolves in the link.
Please tell me what other game mechanic we abused
@@jamesminter70 Pushing through units even though it's agains the rules. And you lost by time, there shouldn't even be a discussion about this. You lost. Just face it
KFB IS POLL GLITCHING
Something seems fishy here. The whole comment section seems in favor of the Hungary Wolves but the straw poll appears to be strongly in favor of the CFB. If one of the players on CFB has a TH-cam Channel that has a significantly higher number of subscribers than any of the players on the Hungry Wolves who might have a TH-cam Channel that also seems cheeky considering how it would be unfair in the number of voters to pull out of the pool.
i was wondering if they were botting the poll because the poll results and comments were so drastically different
I was cheering for Korby...that said it doesn't matter if they had a bigger army, the rules clearly set a time limit to the siege battle.
So in the end i have to vote with HW
The reason we think we won is because when you run a light armored unit away on the wall instead of actually fighting to the bitter end that's just fleeing.
@otowise yay to honour? Oh god now I see why people get frustrated at communities. My team and I already decided earlier it shouldn't come to a vote. The hungry wolves won and they are moving on.
The game says "Costly enemy victory" from attackers' perspective. I don't understand the poll then. HW - winners. No poll needed.
Because in their opinion they won.
@@ulfr5873 but the host of the tournament even set this rule. but now because he was this close he just don´t cares. Wich is just not right
@@ulfr5873 It's very childish. Imagine a hockey match and one of teams in their opinion wins while score shows a loss. Who cares about opinions in this case? :)
"For victory, for the cheese, for the game exploits" korby fisbaiter's war cry
Rules are rules, the hungry wolfes won on time even tough the attackers had more troops, no question about it
The attackers should be disqualified for cheating
Stop moaning, is out of time, victory for the defenders
I agree Hungry Wolves should win this, one of the original rules was defenders lose if attackers run out of time, corby wasted time cheesing with siege towers and should of been disqualified the previous game but apollo made an exception
Hungry wolves for sure! Siege tower push was a push trough
So, they were late to the original match which should have resulted in a forfeit by the rules, but they were given a second chance. They used that chance by basically using an exploit to push siege towers through the enemy lines, and they still lost by the rules of the game that are a deliberate feature of the game. If the rules didn't involve a time limit then defenders would have different strategies and the overall rules to sieges would be different. And still the votes seem to be swinging in their favour.
I think the Hungry Wolves are being treated very unfairly in this situation. Imagine your opponent being given a second chance after they technically had to forfeit, then them using an exploit against you to get past your lines, and then you winning anyway, but still not being called the winner. Isn't that kind of unfair? What's the point in having rules in the first place if you're just gonna pick who you want to win?
Martin I’ve yet to see one comment supporting KFB, the poll is being ruined by bots.
A day will come when Pixiepoo will post a "NOT SO BRUTAL SIEGE BATTLE" video but it is not this day!
They have a nice cup of tea with each other before they begin the slaughter.
Dont know how anyone can argue corby won. They ran out of time and if they didn't push though siege towers I doubt they would have had that numbers advantage
Ironic that the tournament host broke his own rules and then got let off when he shouldve been out smh
and far worse they even bot the pool wich is just sad
Apollo that’s unfair disqualify Korby fisbator because if you disqualify others if they didn’t show up it unfair that you don’t disqualify korby
They see me rollin'
They hatin'
Hahahah I am so laughthing at this 😄
Corby Fist Baiter were SO salty that they used game breaking mechanics. That was gross. Just gross. You are not a better player for knowing how to break the game.
And ? Its not breaking game. Its learning all game mechanics. Hungry wolves could do the same. So stop saying shit like its gross or anything when its totally fine and its just that corby fist baiter was more prepared and gave more time to the game.
@@HANSS420 finally someone who understands
@@HANSS420 oh really? Is is not game breaking when depleted units in siege towers are unstoppable and almost invulnerable to attacks? And just because the other team can also use this "tactics" that doesn't mean it's not game breaking and lame.
@Stuart Donnelly they mounted the siege towers. The tower just happened to drive through defender lines.
@Stuart Donnelly The one unit that pushed through the the line was accidental and as soon as we noticed we dismounted the unit so i could be killed as the defenders seems fit. the rest of our towers were only used as arrow shields.
Apollo, dude hungry wolves have to win this, first because korby fist baiter should already been discualified, second: they used a shit of strategy that even you said could be cheating and third: the game rules say they have an hour to win, and after that rule we can say for sure that hungry wolves won.
TEAM HUNGRY WOLVES cause i saw this as a abomination of all that is good in ROme 2
Yup around 28:00 it's nothing but cheating. In a competitive tournament you should have little sportsmanship.
Not only did they cry for that poll, but they knew they would win it because they rigged it with bots.
@@SpartanElite56 exactly, seeing the comment section on this video it's very clear who everyone voted for. And also funny that kfb somehow had about 8k votes when the video rn only has 14k views. So that means almost everyone watching the video has voted and somehow most for them. Dosnt make since
@Baby knows best I would count using path finding issues to completely negate tactics by pushing a depleted unit right into the middle of the defenders and keeping them in there for a hot minute while the defenders are try to stop it kinda gamebreaking
@Baby knows best that certainly looks gamebreaking lol brealing through formations
(For those Who are interested in a rather detailed opinion. Plese read this, even if it may be a little long.)
In my Humble opinion the hungry wolves won. Not because of the Time, but because of the siege Tower stuff. It was very clearly goin through troops and therefore breaking the rules A SECOND TIME. I would expect this from a Bad Team at a very casual Match. But this... I mean.. Corby Fist Baiter is such a good Team that I was looking up to. The Same goes for the hungry Wolves of course. But to use such a weird Cheese at their own tournament? I mean, it wasn't even necessary. Like.. really. And even if it maybe wasn't the Reason for their Victory I think they should be punished by Doing this Kind of Suff. I am very thankful to chronic Masturbator (really gotta love that name) for hosting all this. But still... this is Not okay. I am very disappointed that such a good Team would do this. Now of course I might be very wrong. You are welcome to State Your opinion While anwering this comment. (Sorry for my poor Grammar :D)
and now if you want to add more drama CFB is using bots on the pool I mean I've gone thro 100 comments maybe and I found only 1 supporting CFB
@@jayphilipps3904 Thats a pretty tough accusation. But its certainly weird, considering that nearly every single comment i've read is pro Wolfs. I dont know man, you might be onto something.
The siege tower rolling thru troops was hilarious; however, I think this "tactic" has no place in a tournament. Hungry Wolves were forced to switch tactics in an effort to counter that glitch, and they technically still won.
I would therefore put my vote on the Hungry Wolves carrying away the victory.
imagining an army trying to run you over with a siege tower in history is so funny to me
There should be an additional rule for tournaments: have fun and don't be tryhard jerks lmao. After all the team that is most skilled at the game should win, not the most skilled at cheesing.
#GoHungryWolves
Just wanted to say that u r the one who introduced me to total war, and I thank u so much for the awesome vid.
-American Patriot- he is the man
Not sure why it crossed your name out?
I’m a patriot to
Game said hungry wolves won end of. No sympathy. The admins own team kicking a fuss... pathetic! Not to mention that they should have been disqualified. Admin privilege..... hungry wolves should be the finalists twice over. and tower exploits...... Corby you’ve done great organising this but have some damn decency and respect the real winners.
Your excited demeanor changed drastically with the cheese happening
The only reason that there was no rule against the siege tower tactic was that it was the plan of the one who MADE the rules. Of course he wouldn't ban his own strategy. Put that on top of the fact that the Hungry Wolves still lasted the full hour and I vote that the Hungry Wolves win.
Macedonians see ghosting siege tower
“That is the greatest pirate I’ve ever seen”
“So it would seem”
(That’s all I thought about when I saw that yes it is bullshit and definitely should have been stopped especially after the first layer
those tactics with the tower had more cheese than an Italian pizza
28:19 I just picture the shooting stars song playing as the siege tower pushes through all the troops lol!