Thank you so much for this fabulous imparting of sound knowledge and wisdom. I have been a watch collector forever but never owned a Speedmaster. Strange really as at 62 I am the precise generation seduced by the Apollo era. I am going to buy a Soeedmaster , probably a 69 and just wanted to thank you for the great overview and guidance . As with all my purchases I can’t agree more that once you have gone through all the basic particulars you have to like it more each time you see it! If you don’t , walk away .
Learned a great deal about the Speedmaster 69. The way you showed and compared the different dials and cases is valuable information. Well done outstanding video.
9:40 It seems obvious when said aloud like this but it's great advice just in general. I've since managed to find the right watch that I've liked more each time I saw it.
Thank you William. Quality as always. I happily own one of your old 145.012-67’s. I really don’t mind the dings and chips, they’re like flaws that say something of its life out in the world rather than in a safe.
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers. This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.). Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct. Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ? Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
How important are the hands. I notice some are dirty patina others look in good condition. With Speedmasters I always see uneven patina or obvious service hands with a patina dial. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I myself just bought a new Speedmaster a few months ago. I'm very happy with my Speedy. Best watch of all time.
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers. This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.). Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct. Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ? Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
Thank you for all your superb content! I'm hoping to soon acquire my first Speedmaster, and have an opportunity on this very iteration. This vid has proved invaluable for me, and my research. I truly appreciate your efforts. Thank you!
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers. This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.). Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct. Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ? Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers. This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.). Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct. Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ? Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
Thank you for the wealth of information.. however, I was expecting you to explain the variations of the caseback too. I hope to see you making another video just about the caseback variations. Thanks
Enjoying this series, learning a lot about vintage Speedmasters, maybe I'll have a look and see if I can get a older relative to go with my 2019 vintage Speedy.
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers. This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.). Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct. Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ? Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
@@kaisoerfjord6794 Thanks for this info, not sure that it will stop me from buying another Speedie though as it is the design I like. If my timing needs to be that accurate I’d invest in a proper stopwatch. Great info though.
Cheers. Read down and you’ll see I list a few that have correct markers. Remember the frequency must match the sub-second markers, and 21600 VPH = 6 VBS (per second), so a division into 4ths or 5ths is a mismatch, hence fraud. They must have a division into 3 or 6 parts of a second. Many of the automatics have 28800 VPH = 8 VBS, so they must have a sub-second division into 4 parts. Quite simple really, if you think about it a day or two. I plan to get the new reduced, 38mm, with column wheel.
Nice, the 69 was one for my first pieces. Beautiful, beautiful patina, DON, extract - and even a totally incorrect 1971 "no nasa" caseback !!! There's probably a guy in South Africa with a 71 one wondering what that 69 caseback is on his watch 😄
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers. This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.). Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct. Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ? Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
Melbourne Beach Florida 🌴🇺🇸 Iam the proud owner of a Speedmaster my Parents gave me for graduation UofM in mid 1960's. Corrosion on bezel and sun fading dial. Bracelet stretched. Never opened.Should I have it refurbished ? Original box and paperwork. Purchased at Gordon Jeweler Coral Gables Florida 🌴 Its a keeper! 🏄 Enjoy your chanel.
Subbed & commenting to help with TH-cam's algorithm. Really insightful video, thanks a lot for making it. I would like to suggest using a Macro lens to shoot future closeups to help us see the details better. Cheers!
Outstanding content. Thank you. I am new to the notion of buying a Speedmaster and this has assisted me greatly. I would also love to see a video on the gold speedmasters. I have my eyes on two targets - a birth year 1970 145.022-69 as close to March 1 as possible (as evidenced by an Extract from the archives) and a 1992 gold speedmaster anniversary with display case back, on a strap (I'd love the bracelet but that is too rich for my blood!). A Tin Tin also has a lot of appeal. Thanks again.
Good day William I really enjoyed your professional video !I read the comments and found your email and just sent you an email Look forward to your professional advice about my Omega Speedmaster Professional
@@Speedmaster101 I’d have to agree. I owned a mid 2000’s, it scratched the itch but after looking at your videos and others I’ve fallen for these 69’s. Love the stepped dial, the aged tritium, scratches and all. So much more character 😘
My straps are hand made using leather I select/find often from unusual sources. A good stepped dial might be $600. An exceptional one will be around $1500. Your problem will be finding someone who will let it go. Most I see on the market are fair at best
Wonderful video! Thank you so much! I have a question that somebody can maybe answer: I have a 71 Speedmaster I guess (with the moon info on the back) since many years and, alas, lost the bezel.... So I bought an aftermarket Bezel. I don't care so much about originality since it was and will be my personal watch forever and it's a very nice bezel even under the magnifying glass, but... it doesn't fit. Or better, it fits quite nicely but it's just that hundredth of a millimeter to large in order to be pressed on. So what the hell do I do? I can't just glue it on... Heat it up like was said in this video? Cheers!
Bezels need to be fitted by an experienced watchmaker. The bezel needs to be adjusted to fit in about 50 % of cases, it is not a DIY operation. If your watchmaker does not know how to do it find another watchmaker.
Hello sir I have a question on a plane case back with no engravings at all 145022-77 my watch is a 1978. No steel away from hard polishing , very strange configuration . Do you have any idea? Does oméga in those years made some blank case backs? Can it be a manufacture failure? Special order? Thanks
Would you be interested in producing a similar deep dive on the 3590.50? They seem to be some of the most affordable Speedmasters that still have a tritium dial.
Thanks for spending a great deal of time to show us around the Speedmaster. I just purchased a brown dial 2011 311.32.42.30.13.001 on a leather strap which is my first Omega. I would love to own the flat link bracelet shown on the 69 but something much newer from Omega. Is there a modern flat link that Omega sells? If not, which aftermarket bracelet would you recommend?
Take a look at the Forstner flat link, has the vintage look but with benefits such as the solid end links. Put it on my speedmaster and never wanted to take it off!
No - its all about condition. Original Omega Guarantees are great if they are correct, but some unscrupulous people will fill in blank papers. Condition is more important
Thank you very much for this video, William - and thank you for your website while I am at it. I enjoyed every bit of this video although no mention of the hands and their possible replacement. I am in the market for my first ‘69 and I have a couple of questions that I hope you are willing to help me with. May I send you an email? Cheers //Søren, DK
How important to the value is it to have box and papers ? I have been debating whether to purchase a 145.022 69st but em looking to purchase the 220 bezel. Most I have found dont come with full set. Would you buy even though it only comes with the watch ? Thanks for the hopeful reply will !
Box and papers are usually put together, unless you are buying from an original owner. I never let Box and papers infuence a purchase decision, condition and attraction of the watch comes first.
Omega’s frequency and subsecond marker MISMATCH is FRAUD. They use 6 and 8 Vibr/Second movements combined with 1/5th sec markers on the dial. The chronograph hand misses all sub-second markers on all of these speedmasters, cannot be stoppoed on any of these markers, for almost 60 years, and no one talks about it. DESIGN FRAUD for profit - well done.
Appreciate your practical approach. There is always give and take, and the reality is that you may never find the perfect one. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this fabulous imparting of sound knowledge and wisdom. I have been a watch collector forever but never owned a Speedmaster. Strange really as at 62 I am the precise generation seduced by the Apollo era. I am going to buy a Soeedmaster , probably a 69 and just wanted to thank you for the great overview and guidance . As with all my purchases I can’t agree more that once you have gone through all the basic particulars you have to like it more each time you see it! If you don’t , walk away .
Learned a great deal about the Speedmaster 69. The way you showed and compared the different dials and cases is valuable information. Well done outstanding video.
My pleasure!
9:40 It seems obvious when said aloud like this but it's great advice just in general. I've since managed to find the right watch that I've liked more each time I saw it.
Thank you William. Quality as always. I happily own one of your old 145.012-67’s. I really don’t mind the dings and chips, they’re like flaws that say something of its life out in the world rather than in a safe.
:) I hope you enjoy it! I do believe in wearing them all.
best channel of speedmaster
I already watched all your videos. We need more!! Thanks for the informative videos.
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers.
This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.).
Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct.
Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ?
Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
How important are the hands. I notice some are dirty patina others look in good condition. With Speedmasters I always see uneven patina or obvious service hands with a patina dial. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I myself just bought a new Speedmaster a few months ago. I'm very happy with my Speedy. Best watch of all time.
Yes, true
Fantastic video, I own a 3570.50 from 2002, if I ever decide on a vintage speedy I'll certainly re-watch your videos!!
Please do!
Thanks for this (and other) videos William. I've really enjoyed watching, listening and learning.
Glad you enjoyed it!
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers.
This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.).
Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct.
Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ?
Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
I love a freshly, highly polished case. The more the better. No such thing as over polishing.
Thank you, I feel a lot more confidant in assessing the Moonnwatch. Priceless.
The James May of Speedmasters!
Love your content mate!
Many, many thanks for your superb videos and your website, which have been an invaluable resource (I am sure for many others, as well).
Thank you for all your superb content!
I'm hoping to soon acquire my first Speedmaster, and have an opportunity on this very iteration.
This vid has proved invaluable for me, and my research.
I truly appreciate your efforts.
Thank you!
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers.
This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.).
Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct.
Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ?
Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
Best of luck!
So informative. Thank you! Video is so nice and relaxed.. 👍🏻
Ok, you've made me understand why there are so many "Speedmaster only" collectors.
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers.
This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.).
Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct.
Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ?
Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
Thank you for the wealth of information.. however, I was expecting you to explain the variations of the caseback too. I hope to see you making another video just about the caseback variations. Thanks
Fantastic video; thank you for sharing your expertise!
Enjoying this series, learning a lot about vintage Speedmasters, maybe I'll have a look and see if I can get a older relative to go with my 2019 vintage Speedy.
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers.
This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.).
Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct.
Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ?
Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
@@kaisoerfjord6794 Thanks for this info, not sure that it will stop me from buying another Speedie though as it is the design I like. If my timing needs to be that accurate I’d invest in a proper stopwatch. Great info though.
Cheers. Read down and you’ll see I list a few that have correct markers. Remember the frequency must match the sub-second markers, and 21600 VPH = 6 VBS (per second), so a division into 4ths or 5ths is a mismatch, hence fraud. They must have a division into 3 or 6 parts of a second. Many of the automatics have 28800 VPH = 8 VBS, so they must have a sub-second division into 4 parts. Quite simple really, if you think about it a day or two. I plan to get the new reduced, 38mm, with column wheel.
Nice, the 69 was one for my first pieces. Beautiful, beautiful patina, DON, extract - and even a totally incorrect 1971 "no nasa" caseback !!! There's probably a guy in South Africa with a 71 one wondering what that 69 caseback is on his watch 😄
Very enjoyable and informative-many thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Good take on this, they do speak and mean a lot more
Holy Cow, I own one if these!!! Now to be able to find the serial number!
Be careful - and I suggest you get the opener!
Watching this and your other videos for about the fifth time this month. My wife thinks I'm crazy but she also thinks your voice is soothing :)
BEWARE, OMEGA PRODUCTION ERROR - All Speedmasters with cal.1861 or cal.1863 movement (manual wound) paired with 5th of a second markers on dial (seconds divided into 5 parts) or paired with 4th of a second markers, and all with cal.3220 movement (automatic) paired with 5th-second markers on dial, have INACCURATE READING of the chronograph hand due to NO FIT between dial-markers of fractions-of-a-second and the movement’s beat-frequency per second. Cal.1861/1863 beat at 6 vibrations per second (6VPS) and require a 3rd or 6th of a second per marker between the seconds; the cal.3220 beats at 8 VPS and require a half or a 4th or 8th of a second between the markers.
This affects Speedmasters with reference no. 311.10.39.30; 311.33.42.30; 311.30.42.30.01; 3590.50; 3572.50 et cetera (if they have 5th of a second markers paired with a 6 BPS movement - cal.1861 or 1863); 311.30.42.30.03 (a 4th of a second per marker); and it affects Speedmasters with ref. no. 3510.50; 3510.12; 3520.50; 2598.80 etc. (if they have 5th of a second markers, i.e. each second divided into 5 fractions of a second, paired with a 6 beats per second movement - cal.3220 or 1151 etc.).
Incidentally, those with ref. no. 311.32.40.30.01.005; 311.30.42.30.01.004; 311.33.40.30.02.001; percent 311.32.42.30.04.003; 522.30.42.30.04.001 (cal.1861); 311.30.42.30.99.002 (cal.1863); 3876.50.31 (cal.1866) that have a 1/3 of a second per marker (each second divided into 3 parts, i.e. 2 sub-markers between each marker of a full second), are correct.
Even Tudor had the same production error/design flaw, on all their Valj.-based 28,800 BPH (8 BPS) movement equipped Heritage chronographs, having 4 dividers between each full second marker, making it a 5th of a second per marker, with a CHRONO-hand that jerks forward 6 times per second and always miss the first and the third quarter-second-marker). Only now do we see it corrected. And only now have we recently seen Omega NOT cheating in this regard, more than 50 years after they stopped making their 18,000 BPH (5 BPS) movement, cal.321. They even cheated NASA, in the 1960s, equipping the astronauts with a 6 jerks per second chronograph hand over a dial with only 5 fraction-of-a-second markers. How lame and criminal isn’t that ?
Even their so-called 1957 reissue has a 21,600 BPH (6 BPS) movement paired with each second divided into 5 fractions on the dial. Right, a CURRENTLY ONGOING mass sale of factory error/design flaw equipped CRAP, useless for what it is marketed as, a precision instrument for accurate split second timing. Criminal.
Melbourne Beach Florida 🌴🇺🇸 Iam the proud owner of a Speedmaster my Parents gave me for graduation UofM in mid 1960's. Corrosion on bezel and sun fading dial. Bracelet stretched. Never opened.Should I have it refurbished ? Original box and paperwork. Purchased at Gordon Jeweler Coral Gables Florida 🌴 Its a keeper! 🏄 Enjoy your chanel.
No, not refurbished as that implies replacing parts and polishing. Just give it a service and enjoy it’s patina
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Really insightful video, thanks a lot for making it. I would like to suggest using a Macro lens to shoot future closeups to help us see the details better. Cheers!
Thanks will do!
Great contribution….thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing videos ! Thx william !
Glad you like them!
I’m looking at a 145.022-71, what is your recommendation to look at quality and determine if I’m paying a good price for it or not?
Hi. Thank you for you video. What are the differences between 145.022-69 and 3590-50?
Dial, bezel, movement
Thanks for the information. I am looking for a good ’69.
Keep looking, prices are coming down, which is good
Amazing, thanks 👏👏
The 321 is the nicer column wheel movement, hence the price and its recent remanufacture.
Outstanding content. Thank you. I am new to the notion of buying a Speedmaster and this has assisted me greatly. I would also love to see a video on the gold speedmasters. I have my eyes on two targets - a birth year 1970 145.022-69 as close to March 1 as possible (as evidenced by an Extract from the archives) and a 1992 gold speedmaster anniversary with display case back, on a strap (I'd love the bracelet but that is too rich for my blood!). A Tin Tin also has a lot of appeal. Thanks again.
Good day William I really enjoyed your professional video !I read the comments and found your email and just sent you an email
Look forward to your professional advice about my Omega Speedmaster Professional
I will check it out
Nice video. What are your thoughts on the new version for 2021?
Well a lot of money. Very few modern speedmasters have retained thier attraction to me. With the exception of the RAID speedmaster.
@@Speedmaster101 I’d have to agree. I owned a mid 2000’s, it scratched the itch but after looking at your videos and others I’ve fallen for these 69’s. Love the stepped dial, the aged tritium, scratches and all. So much more character 😘
Are there 1971 watches with medallion case backs? If so did they always come with step dials?
Yes - all -71’s have step dials and medallion backs. Only a few are the “No NASA” backs, most have the commemorative engraving
Amazing content!
Glad you think so!
Amazing video. Where did you get those straps? Do you also know the value of a good step dial spare part?
My straps are hand made using leather I select/find often from unusual sources. A good stepped dial might be $600. An exceptional one will be around $1500. Your problem will be finding someone who will let it go. Most I see on the market are fair at best
William Speedmaster101 thanks very much William! Unfortunately not many step dials pop up on ebay or forums
Watching this while wearing my vintage 145022-69 Causes for to many video pauses.
Wonderful video! Thank you so much! I have a question that somebody can maybe answer: I have a 71 Speedmaster I guess (with the moon info on the back) since many years and, alas, lost the bezel.... So I bought an aftermarket Bezel. I don't care so much about originality since it was and will be my personal watch forever and it's a very nice bezel even under the magnifying glass, but... it doesn't fit. Or better, it fits quite nicely but it's just that hundredth of a millimeter to large in order to be pressed on. So what the hell do I do? I can't just glue it on... Heat it up like was said in this video? Cheers!
Bezels need to be fitted by an experienced watchmaker. The bezel needs to be adjusted to fit in about 50 % of cases, it is not a DIY operation. If your watchmaker does not know how to do it find another watchmaker.
@@Speedmaster101 Thank you very much!
Do you like the mark II. I got a few...
Hello sir I have a question on a plane case back with no engravings at all 145022-77 my watch is a 1978.
No steel away from hard polishing , very strange configuration .
Do you have any idea?
Does oméga in those years made some blank case backs?
Can it be a manufacture failure?
Special order?
Thanks
Send me an email at william@speedmaster101.com with photos of inside case back, outside case back. And dial view. I will do my best to help
Thank you sir , mail sent
super video sir
So nice of you
You had me at 69 model. Giggity.
That made me laugh. Just started family guy. Bit late to the party
Great information thank you.
Very interested in the case back opener, can you give me a contact for it please?
Many thanks,
Steve
The "yellowish, creamy lume" you keep referring to is Tritium, hence the 'T' either side of 'Swiss Made'.
It is indeed Tritium
What about the hands? Isn't this important to look for? Especially when they don't match the lume plots?
You are absolute right I failed to specifically go into the hands. I prefer when the hand lume does not match the plots.
@@Speedmaster101 :). btw thank you for these videos!
Cracking video.. more please
Working on it....
Would you be interested in producing a similar deep dive on the 3590.50? They seem to be some of the most affordable Speedmasters that still have a tritium dial.
Well I would love too - but I do not own one! My interest is to 1978 but I do agree the later Tritium models are very attractive.
Maybe you can do a video about the Ultraman? 😀
Where is the brown color coming from? Was it originally brown or is it tropical discoloration?
Tropical discolouration due to environmental influence.
Wow, talking about quality content!
Thank you!
Can you do a similar video on the 105.012-65 please?
Noted!
How can you tell its a naturally tropical dial or a “oven baked” dial? Have you ever tried it before? Thanks
Mainly because no one has successfully baked a speedmaster dial! Many have tried but it is obvious to an experienced eye.
William Speedmaster101 i guess exposing under sunlight would eventually speed up the process of turning tropical
Doesn't like the them with dings but not polished either ? What is a seller to do?
I know, right?
Thanks for spending a great deal of time to show us around the Speedmaster. I just purchased a brown dial 2011 311.32.42.30.13.001 on a leather strap which is my first Omega. I would love to own the flat link bracelet shown on the 69 but something much newer from Omega. Is there a modern flat link that Omega sells? If not, which aftermarket bracelet would you recommend?
Take a look at the Forstner flat link, has the vintage look but with benefits such as the solid end links. Put it on my speedmaster and never wanted to take it off!
Do we need to worry about box and papers?
No - its all about condition. Original Omega Guarantees are great if they are correct, but some unscrupulous people will fill in blank papers. Condition is more important
Great video 10/10
Glad you enjoyed it
@@Speedmaster101 Btw isn't hippocampus a part of the brain?
I would love to own one but I can’t find any (of any year) worth around 2000
I think the days of 2000 speedmasters are behind us.
Thank you very much for this video, William - and thank you for your website while I am at it. I enjoyed every bit of this video although no mention of the hands and their possible replacement. I am in the market for my first ‘69 and I have a couple of questions that I hope you are willing to help me with. May I send you an email? Cheers //Søren, DK
Glad it was helpful!
How important to the value is it to have box and papers ? I have been debating whether to purchase a 145.022 69st but em looking to purchase the 220 bezel. Most I have found dont come with full set. Would you buy even though it only comes with the watch ? Thanks for the hopeful reply will !
Box and papers are usually put together, unless you are buying from an original owner.
I never let Box and papers infuence a purchase decision, condition and attraction of the watch comes first.
Box and papers add value but then you pay more for them. However they are easy to forge.
You are doing God's work
Thats funny
A 69 with a DON bezel? I thought 105.012 was the last ref to carry a DON bezel
The DO90 bezel was fitted up to 145.022-69 up to Serial 30596xxx
William Speedmaster101 i have learned something new today. Thank you!
@@Speedmaster101 Thank You. 30596? This is new info to me. Big Congrats on the site and videos.
321st like.
Nice.
Omega’s frequency and subsecond marker MISMATCH is FRAUD. They use 6 and 8 Vibr/Second movements combined with 1/5th sec markers on the dial. The chronograph hand misses all sub-second markers on all of these speedmasters, cannot be stoppoed on any of these markers, for almost 60 years, and no one talks about it. DESIGN FRAUD for profit - well done.
34:57 not even make $ 1000.00 on it... well the "nasty" annoying flippers of ST1 & ST2 will contradict you !
Those are overrated imho, maybe a temporary thing
Ahh arrr ...arrr😂