I bought the first SY77 ever arrived in Italy. What a dream. I still have it in my summer house. I spent part of my life playing it. How many night passed in front of the blu display. I produced several sound for it that now are in the VSTs! I came here because I was missing her and I wanted to listen to her voice!!! 😍
@Blancas&Negras Not at all. The 99 has more power and 7 octaves. It was launched a couple years after. it's a 77 under steroids. Regarding the 85: ... The Sy99 has more power and 7 octaves. It was launched... Is everything clear regarding the SY85? Seriously the 85 (and its rack version TG500) was Another thing like the SY55 (and its module TG55). It doesn't use FM. Its core works with samples...'90 samples. a bigger version of the TG 100, a sound Module GM. Th TG77 is the Rack version of SY77. In the same series SY, but very different sounds architectures you have also the SY22 (and its module TG33) with vector synthesis,. SY99/SY77/TG77 AWM and AFM () SY85/TG500/TG300/TG100 Samples sounds (with layers) SY55 AWM (Same as SY77 and SY99) (I own/owned almost all of them but not the 85. I've Never liked its voice. SY77 and SY99 were Great Synths. TG100 was a cheap module. Sy 22, 55, Sy85 you can discover some nice retro sound but the others were another world!)
@Esvin WM - seconding what lucderan said, basically. SY77 was AFM + AWM with the possibility of cross-modulation between the two (which they called RCM), plus very good digital filters and some basic effects, plus a sixteen-track sequencer, with a 61-note keyboard featuring velocity and aftertouch. (From experience - SY77 has a great keyboard.) The SY99 came out after the 77 and was basically a larger and more powerful version. It was 73 keys (one extra octave), and had, IIRC, the option of adding to the AWM wave set via data cards (to 77 has a card slot too but I believe the 99 can import user-defined waves from the cards, while the 77 cannot). I believe the 99 also has upgraded effects, and maybe a slightly higher bitrate for the AWM sounds? It also has a sequencer that, IIRC, can store multiple songs, whereas the 77 can store only one song at a time. The 85 is AWM only, fully sample-based. It too has the filters, effects, sequencer, and high-quality keyboard. The SY22 and 33 are interesting. They combine FM and AWM, similar to the 77 and 99, but in the context of vector synthesis, like on the Korg Wavestation. The 22 and 33 are cheaper than the 77 and 99, and lack any filters. I have a lot of samples of the 22, and it can generate some pretty interesting sounds.
I’ve had an SY77 since 2009. Most of my favorite sounds are aftermarket, but there are some strong presets too. Off the top of my head, Nasty Saw, Metamonics, the Dyno EP patch, Plastic Bass, Star Brass, Forest, and Traveler are all really good.
I’ve always felt this patch was a little weak on the low notes, myself. I much prefer the grand piano patches of my Korg DSS-1. The SY, in my opinion, excels more with DX-style EP patches with a bit of extra complexity via the AWM element.
The post man just brought me one of these today. I started with a TG33 years ago with an Atari ST running Cubase. Recenty i've got back into synths in a big way( 14 at the moment, over half waiting to be fixed. I'm an electronics engineer) Last year picked up a SY55 and was impressed. a few weeks later I got an SY85. That REALLY impressed me.A big improvement over the 55.(as Romplers go) I've just finished playing for the last couple of hours with the 77. The depth, warmth and just overall sonic richness, that FM brings to the table is simply staggering. Now I haven't downloaded the manual yet, but the menu is DEEP. Like..REALLY deep. God only know what the Motifs, Montages and Modx's are like! It's spurred me on to fix the DX7 mk1 i have waiting.
From programming all the synths you mentioned, I can honestly say the SY77 is the hardest. Even though the later synths are far more capable, and complicated, Yamaha has come a VERY long way with making it much easier to go menu-diving to find the setting you are looking for.
Nice demo of some of the presets. I bought my SY77 in the early 90s, and I absolutely loved it. Found this video while searching for some nostalgia! I'd forgotten how great some of the piano sounds were.
That piano in the beginning was astounding in 1989 when this synth was released! Back then the piano voices in synthesizers weren’t that great due to the lack of ROM memory. As a result they didn’t sound very realistic. The Korg M1 had very notable piano voices, but they still weren’t completely realistic. When the Yamaha SY77 came out in 1989, that piano voice was incredible! It had the most realistic sound compared to all other synths prior to it. Talk about a game-changer!
I like the piano voices in the Korg DSS-1 factory library. They’re a little bit lo-fi compared to the SY, but some of them have fantastic low-end bite. Of course, the SY77’s presets are available the second you turn the keyboard on, while you have to wait for the DSS-1 to load a sound bank from a floppy.
La mia fu la prima SY77 mai venduta in Italia.... e la ho ancora a casa al mare, con le scritte dei controlli completamente consumate e rifatte con l'etichettatrice Dymo sua coeva: segno di un amore infinito!!! Ancora la gente sbavava per la DX7II ed io avevo li dentro due DX7 ed i suoni campionati AWM che compensavano le pecche della zia! Quanti ricordi...quante prove, quante serate... quante (tutte per una decina di anni penso!) notti passate alla luce di quel display cosí figo al tempo!Era piú acceso del monitor dell'ATARI! Poi cominciai a collaborare con la Monzino (allora distributore yamaha) e creai diversi suoni per questo gioiellino che sono finiti oggi anche nei VST :) Assieme alla Wavestation AD, alla 01W ed alla fatar Studio 88, costituiva il mio setup base '90 nei live. Alle prove tante volte portavo solo lei... tanto aveva tutto per far esercitare quelle pippe di sassofonisti che ci portavamo dietro per scenografia! 🤣
The “Ice Piano” patch at 4:23 reminds me slightly of PPG sounds heard on a record from 1985 titled *Bach-Handel 300.* I know the SY77 has no direct line of connection to PPG, but it kind of owes something to those synths at the same time.
Olha vc por aqui . kkkkkkkkkk...Ontem na minha igreja foi um irmão ..louvou 2 hinos do Vitorino Silva .Com teclado . xp80 ..num XP80 .eu não acreditei .. que timbres nossa .foi lindo ..eu não resisti tive que mexer naquelas teclas e botões .. todo conservado ..kkkkk
Thanks for the video. Just recently (home for COVID lockdown) and found my old DX7II. Love it! FM still is my favorite. Would like to get the SY77 quality in a rack module. Any models you would suggest?
I have this wonderful keyboard - however, for anyone interested, it’s an exceptional professional instrument probably one of their best - BUT IT IS NOT General Midi! You need a SY77 to Midi converter. However, it means that should anyone want to steal your discs & compositions, they need a 77 in order to do it. In that way it’s secure.
Oh dang. Was watching this because of seeing one on local Craigslist...but as a one man, multi synth situation, midi is absolutely necessary unless I can get extra hands attached...shame, I could use a couple of these cheesy FM sounds
chiedo scusa se nell'entusiasmo non sono stato preciso: se è solo per quello io ho anche un EX5R (expander Yamaha) che supporta tutte le funzioni di expression. Io però ricordo che quando comprai la S77 non ne esistevano altre con 3 MWheel. Almeno, a detta del negoziante.
Is it possible for you to help me out with my SY77 I fixed one up from the dumpster but it sounds nothing like yours. Do i need the data and waveform cards to change the sound ?
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB Wow, sounds like very usable synth even for today standards. I kind a thinking of getting one for FM sounds(mixed with other synthesis),since I got fed of plugins.
Hi. We have the same keyboard. I have a problem with the editing of octave can you please teach me how? Right now my keyboard is automatically set to octave 16 anf above. I cant play anything that high😕
As far as i know there is no button to change the octave of the keyboard. But you can always change the pitch of oscillators inside the menu. Edit- E1-4 - Osclltr- Coarse.
I found one so cheap but no sound anyway. Does it need the floppy? I tried it using auriculars but no sound. The display showrd ERROR NO CARD. Is it normal?
That's one beautiful sounding ugly synth! Absolutely majestic but I would pay not to own one! Kinda like my tenants. Sorry for talking, but I guess that's why he allows comments.
I bought the first SY77 ever arrived in Italy. What a dream. I still have it in my summer house. I spent part of my life playing it. How many night passed in front of the blu display. I produced several sound for it that now are in the VSTs! I came here because I was missing her and I wanted to listen to her voice!!! 😍
@Blancas&Negras Not at all. The 99 has more power and 7 octaves. It was launched a couple years after. it's a 77 under steroids.
Regarding the 85: ... The Sy99 has more power and 7 octaves. It was launched...
Is everything clear regarding the SY85?
Seriously the 85 (and its rack version TG500) was Another thing like the SY55 (and its module TG55). It doesn't use FM. Its core works with samples...'90 samples. a bigger version of the TG 100, a sound Module GM. Th TG77 is the Rack version of SY77. In the same series SY, but very different sounds architectures you have also the SY22 (and its module TG33) with vector synthesis,.
SY99/SY77/TG77 AWM and AFM ()
SY85/TG500/TG300/TG100 Samples sounds (with layers)
SY55 AWM (Same as SY77 and SY99)
(I own/owned almost all of them but not the 85. I've Never liked its voice. SY77 and SY99 were Great Synths. TG100 was a cheap module. Sy 22, 55, Sy85 you can discover some nice retro sound but the others were another world!)
@Esvin WM - seconding what lucderan said, basically. SY77 was AFM + AWM with the possibility of cross-modulation between the two (which they called RCM), plus very good digital filters and some basic effects, plus a sixteen-track sequencer, with a 61-note keyboard featuring velocity and aftertouch. (From experience - SY77 has a great keyboard.)
The SY99 came out after the 77 and was basically a larger and more powerful version. It was 73 keys (one extra octave), and had, IIRC, the option of adding to the AWM wave set via data cards (to 77 has a card slot too but I believe the 99 can import user-defined waves from the cards, while the 77 cannot). I believe the 99 also has upgraded effects, and maybe a slightly higher bitrate for the AWM sounds? It also has a sequencer that, IIRC, can store multiple songs, whereas the 77 can store only one song at a time.
The 85 is AWM only, fully sample-based. It too has the filters, effects, sequencer, and high-quality keyboard.
The SY22 and 33 are interesting. They combine FM and AWM, similar to the 77 and 99, but in the context of vector synthesis, like on the Korg Wavestation. The 22 and 33 are cheaper than the 77 and 99, and lack any filters. I have a lot of samples of the 22, and it can generate some pretty interesting sounds.
The thing I love most, is all those presets are musical af, no crazy random bleeps and boops, all very usable patches!
Bleeps and boops! Hahahah
I’ve had an SY77 since 2009. Most of my favorite sounds are aftermarket, but there are some strong presets too. Off the top of my head, Nasty Saw, Metamonics, the Dyno EP patch, Plastic Bass, Star Brass, Forest, and Traveler are all really good.
Yamaha never disappoints with their grand piano patches
I’ve always felt this patch was a little weak on the low notes, myself. I much prefer the grand piano patches of my Korg DSS-1. The SY, in my opinion, excels more with DX-style EP patches with a bit of extra complexity via the AWM element.
The post man just brought me one of these today. I started with a TG33 years ago with an Atari ST running Cubase. Recenty i've got back into synths in a big way( 14 at the moment, over half waiting to be fixed. I'm an electronics engineer) Last year picked up a SY55 and was impressed. a few weeks later I got an SY85. That REALLY impressed me.A big improvement over the 55.(as Romplers go) I've just finished playing for the last couple of hours with the 77. The depth, warmth and just overall sonic richness, that FM brings to the table is simply staggering. Now I haven't downloaded the manual yet, but the menu is DEEP. Like..REALLY deep. God only know what the Motifs, Montages and Modx's are like! It's spurred me on to fix the DX7 mk1 i have waiting.
From programming all the synths you mentioned, I can honestly say the SY77 is the hardest.
Even though the later synths are far more capable, and complicated, Yamaha has come a VERY long way with making it much easier to go menu-diving to find the setting you are looking for.
Nice demo of some of the presets. I bought my SY77 in the early 90s, and I absolutely loved it. Found this video while searching for some nostalgia! I'd forgotten how great some of the piano sounds were.
That piano in the beginning was astounding in 1989 when this synth was released! Back then the piano voices in synthesizers weren’t that great due to the lack of ROM memory. As a result they didn’t sound very realistic. The Korg M1 had very notable piano voices, but they still weren’t completely realistic. When the Yamaha SY77 came out in 1989, that piano voice was incredible! It had the most realistic sound compared to all other synths prior to it. Talk about a game-changer!
The yamaha Tx816 piano was very convincing.... Look it up on youtube of the blonde guy playing it...... Incredible!!
I like the piano voices in the Korg DSS-1 factory library. They’re a little bit lo-fi compared to the SY, but some of them have fantastic low-end bite. Of course, the SY77’s presets are available the second you turn the keyboard on, while you have to wait for the DSS-1 to load a sound bank from a floppy.
Ready for this, the Yamaha got the best work on the FM Engine with many hardware synths.
Nice Keyboard skills.
I love my SY77.
It is a pity that nobody made a plugin of it…
Well, it's complicated. Not your average DX7.
La mia fu la prima SY77 mai venduta in Italia.... e la ho ancora a casa al mare, con le scritte dei controlli completamente consumate e rifatte con l'etichettatrice Dymo sua coeva: segno di un amore infinito!!! Ancora la gente sbavava per la DX7II ed io avevo li dentro due DX7 ed i suoni campionati AWM che compensavano le pecche della zia! Quanti ricordi...quante prove, quante serate... quante (tutte per una decina di anni penso!) notti passate alla luce di quel display cosí figo al tempo!Era piú acceso del monitor dell'ATARI!
Poi cominciai a collaborare con la Monzino (allora distributore yamaha) e creai diversi suoni per questo gioiellino che sono finiti oggi anche nei VST :)
Assieme alla Wavestation AD, alla 01W ed alla fatar Studio 88, costituiva il mio setup base '90 nei live. Alle prove tante volte portavo solo lei... tanto aveva tutto per far esercitare quelle pippe di sassofonisti che ci portavamo dietro per scenografia! 🤣
E comunque sto male: sono venuto di proposito a cercare i video della SY perché mi mancava e volevo sentire la sua voce!
È davvero uno strumento ottimo! Io l’ho rimessa a nuovo.. sto cercando di fare la stessa cosa con una SY99 appena la troveró a buon prezzo ;)
Ho avuto anch'io questo Sintetizzatore ma tu lo suoni divinamente!!! Complimenti sul serio.
Grazie!!😉👍🏻
chouette vidéo et bon jeu. J'ai un SY-77 aussi et je l'aime beaucoup, c'est vraiment une machine aux possibilités exceptionnelles
Nasty Saw was always my favorite voice on the SY-77.
The “Ice Piano” patch at 4:23 reminds me slightly of PPG sounds heard on a record from 1985 titled *Bach-Handel 300.* I know the SY77 has no direct line of connection to PPG, but it kind of owes something to those synths at the same time.
1980 Brass reminds me of Rocky IV soundtrack!
suoni inconfondibili!
Muito lindo esses timbres. Amo esse Teclado
Fala mano sou seu fã kkk mano essa linha de teclads tem acordeon?
Olha vc por aqui . kkkkkkkkkk...Ontem na minha igreja foi um irmão ..louvou 2 hinos do Vitorino Silva .Com teclado . xp80 ..num XP80 .eu não acreditei .. que timbres nossa .foi lindo ..eu não resisti tive que mexer naquelas teclas e botões .. todo conservado ..kkkkk
no talking - i love you so much for that :)))
Some sounds are very pleasing to my ears. Thank you for this video!
Bought one this month. Can't wait to play around with it. Was Queen's "I'm Going Slightly Mad" main riff played on an SY99 ?
I guess that was an M1.
@@keep_your_sanity Thanks.
Thanks for the video. Just recently (home for COVID lockdown) and found my old DX7II. Love it! FM still is my favorite. Would like to get the SY77 quality in a rack module. Any models you would suggest?
TG77 or TX802.
If you want exactly an SY77 in a rack format buy a Yamaha TG77, is exactly the same instrument! ;)
I have this wonderful keyboard - however, for anyone interested, it’s an exceptional professional instrument probably one of their best - BUT IT IS NOT General Midi! You need a SY77 to Midi converter. However, it means that should anyone want to steal your discs & compositions, they need a 77 in order to do it. In that way it’s secure.
RML Bobby D hello what’s the price?
Oh dang. Was watching this because of seeing one on local Craigslist...but as a one man, multi synth situation, midi is absolutely necessary unless I can get extra hands attached...shame, I could use a couple of these cheesy FM sounds
What? No. General Midi is not present on that mothership, he was born later.
Maybe it doesn't have general MIDI, but it has MIDI interface already.
Pianos eléctricos muy parecidos al DX7 muy buen teclado comprare uno ahora mismo
I need help
Out my keyboard come don’t sound
Why
Dark e piano is great !
Used extensively by NWA💯
Is there a legal way to get these presets? I have Omnisphere 2 but there are no similar sounds.
Are these the Rock / Pop Soundcard patches?
no, internal preset!;)
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB Wow, internal presets,glad to hear internal patches sound so good.
@@DadoSimicStudiostriver yes! amazing synth!
chiedo scusa se nell'entusiasmo non sono stato preciso: se è solo per quello io ho anche un EX5R (expander Yamaha) che supporta tutte le funzioni di expression. Io però ricordo che quando comprai la S77 non ne esistevano altre con 3 MWheel. Almeno, a detta del negoziante.
Are there speakers on the keyboard where the music comes from? Or do you need to get speakers?
No, you need an external pair of speaker
Alphaa xEnemy you need external Amp and speakers.
Do you know how programing sounds when i need select one in specific and change to another??
esse tem os mesmos sons do mm6
Is it possible for you to help me out with my SY77
I fixed one up from the dumpster but it sounds nothing like yours.
Do i need the data and waveform cards to change the sound ?
You want other sounds? If yes, you can load via sysex other sounds founded online.. cards are just an extra bank
Just bought the sy77. How can i access these presets? I have complete lame ass presets in bank a b c d. And only 64 presets in total. How come.
Hi, you have to make a factory reset.
usa.yamaha.com/support/faq/music_production/1945.html
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB thank you! Done. it seems that I used the sounds of the r & d tokyo disk. Which I had loaded in previously.
is it intuitive to make your own patches/presets?
Not really.. ;)
3:33
お、これは小室哲哉の天と地とデジタリアンLiveのSEVEN DAYS WARで使っている音だ！
Almost the same layout as the EX5!
Well the EX5 has more engines inside! ;)
DKS SYNTH LAB But it doesn’t have FM !!!
Are these factory patches or from cards?
Factory presets!;)
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB Wow, sounds like very usable synth even for today standards. I kind a thinking of getting one for FM sounds(mixed with other synthesis),since I got fed of plugins.
@@DadoSimicStudiostriver absolutely!! fantastic synth even in 2019!!!
Dónde puedo comprar el Yamaha sy77
Only used on second hand market
How to make grand piano?
Are those the cards or the internal patches?
Internal preset! ;)
can you write the song that you are playing each preset?
no! :) because is all improvised
Can you load presets of Yamaha DX7!?
If you find with the format of sy77 yes, but i’m not sure you can load directly
And they don't sound as good as on the dx7
Please did you install the sound from a card
You can install sounds via floppy or sysex
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB have you used sy85 before
Hi. We have the same keyboard. I have a problem with the editing of octave can you please teach me how? Right now my keyboard is automatically set to octave 16 anf above. I cant play anything that high😕
As far as i know there is no button to change the octave of the keyboard. But you can always change the pitch of oscillators inside the menu. Edit- E1-4 - Osclltr- Coarse.
Internal battery fail most probably.. Could have scrambled settings
In the COM section you can change octaves per voice.
How many sound this
Probably around 100/200 internal but you can buy sound cards for adding more sounds
Where can I download presets patches
l'unica tastiera con 3 MWheel !!! (almeno, che io conosca). Io ce l'ho ancora e finziona da DIO.
No c’è anche la Sy-99, EX5 e EX7 ;)
Ever used sy85
What's the diff
Levi Jesse the 85 has no FM engine
@@javiceres so the 77 is better?
Levi Jesse So I think
where can i download
presets. or the snippets of songs, as an mp3?
@@warp9988 patches
I found one so cheap but no sound anyway. Does it need the floppy? I tried it using auriculars but no sound. The display showrd ERROR NO CARD. Is it normal?
Try it with SYmanager by FM alive to see if you can transfer sounds into it.
@@maccagrabme I'm so intererested in buying this one cause I want to compose my own music, I've got about 2000 music motifs but if it doesn't work...
@@maccagrabme Thanks for your attention
Nothing like korg specially T series best of the best
totally cheating with those cards in!
That's one beautiful sounding ugly synth! Absolutely majestic but I would pay not to own one! Kinda like my tenants. Sorry for talking, but I guess that's why he allows comments.