wow. this is an amazing exercise. it is direct in targeting understanding of the different intervals and degrees of a scale in a way that is extremely useful. I think this is what I have been looking for. Thank you!!
Just wanted to say thank you so much for these videos! I have been watching everything from your channel and trying to apply everything that you say, please keep up with the quality content!
I may not (yet) understand everything being said here but it's definitely great advice. I'm "teaching myself" and have been playing (improvising) blues scales "out of order" for this reason-to learn how to navigate around a scale verses getting stuck going up and down (boring) a linear pattern. For some reason (as a beginner) I'm finding working the blues scale to be easier-and I can get into a groove. And, I have been playing Twinkle Twinkle in six different keys-which helps in several ways. So It's good to hear that I'm doing something correct! Now I'm going to try these lessons-in different keys. BTW, I love when I hit a wrong key and can recognize it immediately-it shows that my ear is learning along with my fingers (and brain) :)
I can agree with this video, since I started this a couple months ago. But recently I've started with Moulin de Ville Opus 100, and using numbers 1, 2 and 4; La Candeur, Arabesque and La Petite Réunion. La Candeur is mostly pentatonics and I took that into every key. The other ones my piano teacher said to concentrate on the keys up to three flats and sharps. Arabesque brings up an interesting dilemna. My piano teacher and my pianist friend both treat the minor key as just a Major, and I was trying to think like it was the minor. So I'll start treating it also as a Major key and looking it as a vi chord. And this has helped my ear a lot, since I was worried that I was having trouble. But yes, I can tell when it's not the correct interval. I've also put Prélude in Do Majeure into Thoroughbass and play that in other keys. I played it in B Major for my friend and he was impressed, even though I played in the wrong octave.
Just wanted to say thank you so much for the ear training videos you make on this channel. I started doing this transposition exercise last year after watching one of your videos and also downloaded the functional ear trainer app. After around 8 months of practice I can now play melodies by ear with pretty high accuracy with only the tonic as reference. I still can't do this in real time, sometimes I have to go through the melody in my head a couple of times while I figure it out in small chunks, but I'm really happy with my progress. My next goal is being able to hear a note in the context of a key center and just immediately hearing its degree, right now it takes me a split second to consciously think about it, and long-term I'd like to be able to play melodies back right away, without needing to "figure them out" in my head first, if that makes sense. You said in one of your videos that this just takes more practice, and I'm in for the long haul, but what was your personal experience in getting to this point?
Also wanted to say that when I originally watched the video where your transcribe vampire in real time it made a big impression on me, and now almost a year later whenever I listen to a pop song on the radio I try to work out the chords in my head. Getting better at it every day with practice.
@@miamia2418 this is incredibly rewarding for me to hear! Thank you for sharing. In response to your question - it definitely gets easier & faster with practice. I still feel like my ear is gradually getting better. There's no single point of arrival for something like playing a melody back immediately, so it's hard to give a timeline for my own experience with it; it was something I could basically do by the end of high school with most diatonic melodies, so after 2-3 years of dedicated practice. But I feel strongly that my ear has gotten much better since then - and it's still much worse than some of my musician friends! If you've made this much progress in 8 months, I can't wait to hear where you're at after another year or two!
@@pianofluency Having serviceable relative pitch completely changed the way I look at playing and listening to music - this is due in no small part to your videos. Looking forward to progressing in small steps too!
It's amazing how the mood of the tune changes by playing it in different key. Also, how chords reveal itself (aliases, if you will) with the addition, omission, inversion, extension of one note. This sometimes confuses, the heck, me.
these videos are great! i had a question to ask. i have started take practice the piano last month only. should I practice about music theory and techniques or learn my fav piece of music on the piano? i enjoy the later part a lot. i am a music producer and have been making music since few years now. i don't know any instruments and I don't think it's necessary to learn instrument to make music. but I always loved piano and got my hands on keyboard. what would you suggest when I am just starting out on piano? theory and techniques seems to be quite boring to practice and not rewarding at start. but I know theory is really kinda the backbone of music anyway. i am confused.
Follow your heart! If you're having more fun with learning a favorite piece, spend your time there :) theory can be really helpful to transfer skills from one piece to another, but it's always good to remember theory comes from music, not the other way around. That's why I like exercises like this, where you are using real pieces of music as a vehicle to understand theory better!
Great question... both can be helpful! So long as you stay in touch with the key center. I also often think about melodic patterns in relationship to the current chord change.
I have been doing this for a couple of weeks now. What I noticed is that I've been using the intervocalic distance between the scale degrees to locate them without thinking about the overall shape of the key. I ended up finding myself better at locating the next note or chord root for sure, but not more familiar with the overall keys. Perhaps I just need more time practicing this.
Yes, I'd say give it time, and maybe couple it with some more traditional up-and-down scale practice starting on notes other than the root. Another suggestion is to focus on playing it correctly on the first try in the new key, rather than using trial and error; you'll have to visualize the new key signature before you play.
@@pianofluency These are great tips, Ted. Starting from different notes while doing up-and-down scales would practice all the modes as well. Visualizing the key signature before playing to ensure no error is just what I thought I needed. Thank you!
Great, your teaching is very practical, you help me connect all the dots, thanks a bunch!
wow. this is an amazing exercise. it is direct in targeting understanding of the different intervals and degrees of a scale in a way that is extremely useful. I think this is what I have been looking for. Thank you!!
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Just wanted to say thank you so much for these videos! I have been watching everything from your channel and trying to apply everything that you say, please keep up with the quality content!
Your videos are top tier.
I may not (yet) understand everything being said here but it's definitely great advice. I'm "teaching myself" and have been playing (improvising) blues scales "out of order" for this reason-to learn how to navigate around a scale verses getting stuck going up and down (boring) a linear pattern. For some reason (as a beginner) I'm finding working the blues scale to be easier-and I can get into a groove. And, I have been playing Twinkle Twinkle in six different keys-which helps in several ways. So It's good to hear that I'm doing something correct! Now I'm going to try these lessons-in different keys. BTW, I love when I hit a wrong key and can recognize it immediately-it shows that my ear is learning along with my fingers (and brain) :)
This channel is awesome and you're a great teacher. Maybe you could do a video on your process when you practice a new challenging piece.
coming soon!
Intriguing... will give it a trial... thankyou! 🙂
Use solfeggio as an alternate approach you're familiar with it.
I can agree with this video, since I started this a couple months ago. But recently I've started with Moulin de Ville Opus 100, and using numbers 1, 2 and 4; La Candeur, Arabesque and La Petite Réunion. La Candeur is mostly pentatonics and I took that into every key. The other ones my piano teacher said to concentrate on the keys up to three flats and sharps.
Arabesque brings up an interesting dilemna. My piano teacher and my pianist friend both treat the minor key as just a Major, and I was trying to think like it was the minor. So I'll start treating it also as a Major key and looking it as a vi chord.
And this has helped my ear a lot, since I was worried that I was having trouble. But yes, I can tell when it's not the correct interval.
I've also put Prélude in Do Majeure into Thoroughbass and play that in other keys. I played it in B Major for my friend and he was impressed, even though I played in the wrong octave.
Excellent video!!! I often suggest my students do the 12 key exercise with nursery rhyme songs. Sometimes they do their assignments...
Extremely interesting and useful advice. Thank you.
One of my personal favourite exercises also.
Just wanted to say thank you so much for the ear training videos you make on this channel. I started doing this transposition exercise last year after watching one of your videos and also downloaded the functional ear trainer app. After around 8 months of practice I can now play melodies by ear with pretty high accuracy with only the tonic as reference. I still can't do this in real time, sometimes I have to go through the melody in my head a couple of times while I figure it out in small chunks, but I'm really happy with my progress.
My next goal is being able to hear a note in the context of a key center and just immediately hearing its degree, right now it takes me a split second to consciously think about it, and long-term I'd like to be able to play melodies back right away, without needing to "figure them out" in my head first, if that makes sense. You said in one of your videos that this just takes more practice, and I'm in for the long haul, but what was your personal experience in getting to this point?
Also wanted to say that when I originally watched the video where your transcribe vampire in real time it made a big impression on me, and now almost a year later whenever I listen to a pop song on the radio I try to work out the chords in my head. Getting better at it every day with practice.
@@miamia2418 this is incredibly rewarding for me to hear! Thank you for sharing. In response to your question - it definitely gets easier & faster with practice. I still feel like my ear is gradually getting better. There's no single point of arrival for something like playing a melody back immediately, so it's hard to give a timeline for my own experience with it; it was something I could basically do by the end of high school with most diatonic melodies, so after 2-3 years of dedicated practice. But I feel strongly that my ear has gotten much better since then - and it's still much worse than some of my musician friends! If you've made this much progress in 8 months, I can't wait to hear where you're at after another year or two!
@@pianofluency Having serviceable relative pitch completely changed the way I look at playing and listening to music - this is due in no small part to your videos. Looking forward to progressing in small steps too!
It's amazing how the mood of the tune changes by playing it in different key. Also, how chords reveal itself (aliases, if you will) with the addition, omission, inversion, extension of one note. This sometimes confuses, the heck, me.
Really really good, thank you
that is awsome information
these videos are great! i had a question to ask. i have started take practice the piano last month only. should I practice about music theory and techniques or learn my fav piece of music on the piano? i enjoy the later part a lot. i am a music producer and have been making music since few years now. i don't know any instruments and I don't think it's necessary to learn instrument to make music. but I always loved piano and got my hands on keyboard. what would you suggest when I am just starting out on piano? theory and techniques seems to be quite boring to practice and not rewarding at start. but I know theory is really kinda the backbone of music anyway. i am confused.
Follow your heart! If you're having more fun with learning a favorite piece, spend your time there :) theory can be really helpful to transfer skills from one piece to another, but it's always good to remember theory comes from music, not the other way around. That's why I like exercises like this, where you are using real pieces of music as a vehicle to understand theory better!
Just wondering if it's better to think of intervals (in the the melody) rather than absolute scale degrees to facilitate, amonst others, transposing?
Great question... both can be helpful! So long as you stay in touch with the key center. I also often think about melodic patterns in relationship to the current chord change.
I would rather call them Do Re Mi Fa So La Si Do, in place of 12345671. That's how I hear Melody.
I have been doing this for a couple of weeks now. What I noticed is that I've been using the intervocalic distance between the scale degrees to locate them without thinking about the overall shape of the key. I ended up finding myself better at locating the next note or chord root for sure, but not more familiar with the overall keys. Perhaps I just need more time practicing this.
Yes, I'd say give it time, and maybe couple it with some more traditional up-and-down scale practice starting on notes other than the root. Another suggestion is to focus on playing it correctly on the first try in the new key, rather than using trial and error; you'll have to visualize the new key signature before you play.
@@pianofluency These are great tips, Ted. Starting from different notes while doing up-and-down scales would practice all the modes as well. Visualizing the key signature before playing to ensure no error is just what I thought I needed. Thank you!
Good stuff, thank you so much!
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I must be a bit slow but what I do not understand is how the numbers relate to the chords or the notes…
I've got an intro video on the topic! th-cam.com/video/ujB8QukPdV4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vcBefEbcWqJFtHpZ