These Two Games are 7 Years Apart
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2022
- Batman Arkham Knight released in 2015 compared to Gotham Knights released in 2022. Which one is better in your opinion?
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одно с топовой картинкой второе без картинки но с топ гимплем
Could you do GTA 5 vs cyberpunk 2077
So.....what mod do you have on Gotham knights because in mine the capes DOES NOT MOVE WHILE ON THE BAT BIKE SO......EVEN LAMER
We've reached the point where technology isn't the bottleneck anymore, its the creativity of the devs.
it always has been
Also money and time is a big factor
Not about creativity, it’s the difference between when a game is made out of love for the fans and when a game is only made to generate money.
@@LawysArt Gotham Knights is objectively worse than Knight but lets not revise history and act like Rocksteady wasnt sick and tired of making Batman Arkham games. It shows that Knight is the weakest Rocksteady game especially in terms of writing (deliberately not bringing back Paul Dini) and boss battles. They wanted to wash their hands of the series because continuing one series for 6 years would get tiring
@@joseph2000117 From my point of view this is still the best episode.
Crazy how Arkham Knight had no actual civilians in its city, yet somehow it still looked far more alive than Gotham knights
Lol probably because of the rioters and tanks, there were more of those than civilians in GK. Also the rain was beautiful.
nostalgia
@@theartillery9724in the game all the city was evacuated for that reason, so makes sense
@@cycada2405 what I meant was compared to the amount of civs in GK, there are more rioters and militia roaming the streets in AK.
The action happended in one night
Batman Arkham Knight: Developed by people who love Batman.
Gotham Knights: Developed by people who want money.
Nope they both wanted money😂
Edit: how can my opinion piss half of y’all off like grow up🤣
@@PhoenixPlays669The difference between the two games is that Rocksteady did a great job, but Gotham Knights is really bad!
I will say that the authors of the story loved Batman. The cutscenes at the Belfry are the best depiction of the three Robins interacting in any adaptation I've seen (outside of the original animated series), and Barbara felt wonderful as well.
It's the gameplay that was bad.
@@darkvin3032 that’s your opinion mine is I like both of them
@@PhoenixPlays669 okay then
Man this is such great progress! Look how much the graphics and physics improved in just seven years from Gotham Knights to Arkham Knight!
Finally someone said it out!
Yeah, the improve is magnificent.
😂😂😂
I honestly wasn't sure which one came first. Thanks for clearing it up for me!
@@gaebril131 I can't tell if you're being serious or not...
To be fair, Arkham Knight was insane quality. I argue this can still Rival Spiderman 2 in some aspects.
I still can't believe Arkham Knight was developed in Unreal Engine 3, it's so damn impressive.
Imagine if we get a sequel to the game , this time in Unreal Engine 5 ❤️😍
@@JoshuaG How about no, they were already phoning it in with the 4th game, let's just let sleeping dogs lie.
@@stevenclark5173 ??? im not talking about sleeping dogs bro 😳
@@JoshuaG you are joking, correct?
@@JoshuaG no.
Nobody's talking about how good the sound design in Arkham Knight is. The Batmobile, grappling hook, cape and even just the walk sound great.
Not good. IMPECCABLE.
Then they should make a game for the blind then
It's almost always talked about in the comments of Arkham Knight vids, tf r u talkin about
@@NewHandleWhoDeez nah
@@NewHandleWhoDeez clearly not
Crazy how much they learned from Gotham Knights when they made Arkham Knight! The improvements are incredible!
bro arkham comes after gotham
@@GHXST-wq5fi that's what they said
@@Nahidwash he meant it the other way around
ya'll hes making a joke about Arkham Knights looking better jesus christ
@@ForestKnight_kids trying to correct a missed joke will always be hilarious
I'm replaying Arkham Knight here in 2023 and it's ridiculous to me how great it still looks. What a game.
i still have the disk ... so I will be playing it on the ps5 on my new account ... ahhh what a joy to be batman again and easily 100% the game. I used to rush it because I like to complete things. .. but now since modern games are just bad overall - not worth putting time into them, I would much rather enjoy my time as Batman... but lorewise ... the game Arkham Knight ... lasted one night i believe ... so ... gotta go fast
When I first got it on PC it ran like crap despite me having a PC that should be able to play it on high but after a year or two it's now at a point where I can play it and it looks awesome
Just downloaded it and playing for the first time. It’s incredible for a game going on 9 years now
@@milleniumadam8643 been replaying it myself lately. I like to imagine the Arkham games take place in one of many of DC's Infinite Earths and, in this Earth, nighttime lasts an unholy amount of time.
Bought it on steam, been playing it the past week.
Best superhero game ever imo.
Batman: “if you kill a killer, the amount of killers stays the same”
Also Batman: *runs over 13 pedestrians and two police cars to permanently paralyze a tax dodger*
look all the citizens evacuated and the cops were corrupt anyways so its fine
While being a tax dodger himself.
Hey man he gave that guy the easy way out. The feds would've done way worse
Well, that's not right, if he kills two it's one down.
I’ll explain the mentality of Batman.
He fears if he kills someone like the joker, then where does he stop? Does catwoman deserve to die because she steals? Where do you draw the line? Batman fears that if he kills, he will then keep killing every criminal. Ultimately becoming a mass murderer.
And just to clarify, you understand he is psychologically messed up right? This is a grown man who dresses up as a rodent and beats people up at night.. he’s knows he’s mentally unwell so he doesn’t want to become a killer.
It’s crazy how much technology advances in 7 years. Still the old game with the bat girl is holding up ok.
@@DanRemdor r/whooosh
@@DanRemdor r/whooosh
@@DanRemdor we know. We’re just making fun of the new game since Arkham knight looks way more fun.
@@DanRemdor r/whooosh
@@DanRemdor bruh just got woooshed
it's incredible. amazing what you can accomplish with time. the technology never ceases to improve and the devs' expertise and experience really shows as movements are more fluid, grapple mechanics give more freedom, and you can even have rain and better ocean physics! down to the last details!
what do you mean, "Arkham Knight came first" ?
Also Batman could angrily stab a mercenary commander's smartphone with a batarang and/or crush it in his fist. Can the Gotham Knights crew do that? I doubt it!
@@hazukichanx408the developer team wasnt as advanced when they made gotham knights 7 years ago
You said everything correct except it was not only technology but the main thing that made this game possible was the organisation who built that game does value gamers. It's not a made for sole money making.
True, Gotham Tykes feels more like a sellout in terms of all the lackluster features that are present. The game kind of reminds me about how you can make a game with free assets like Skull Island: Rise of Kong. Newer NEVER means BETTER!
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It's mind boggling how Arkham Knight still looks insanely good. It's just timeless. I bet if it was released in 2023 noone would say it's graphics are outdated
Arkham Knight's textures and atmosphere carry it hard, just like how Arkham Asylum back in 2009 looked pretty damn good despite the models being pretty lackluster. These games textures are solid as hell and the lightning is so good
Also the fact that it can run on a business laptop of 1.3 kg with 1080p settings.
Like, I wonder if its the gaming companies fault to pay less compared to others and hire bad programmers nowadays.
Like RDR2 has the exceptional graphics and yet it can reach 25 FPS in business laptops with NVidia MX350 (really good optimization from Rockstar). This then saddens me how games like God Of War (not talking about Ragnarok) cannot be played with 30FPS stable 1080p in business laptops, like what is the excuse?
One of the best looking arkham things are the computer generated trailers like a 10 year old arkham trailer looks better than most new trailers
Also the deadshot reveal trailer looks like a live action movie basically but its computer generated
arkham knight was 100% ahead of its time
Reminds me of what somebody said about Dead Space: the reason a 14 year old game can old up relatively well is due to art direction, appropriate visual obscurity, and effects.
Usually I would just flatout agree, but this video mostly showcase graphical fidelity and the new game still lost.
Same thing with TF2, Minecraft, Borderlands 2 and Old School Runescape. Timeless Design will always beat out fancy "New" graphical features.
Assasins Creed 1 also looks good even today for being a game of 2007-2008
The technology was more limited but the artists were incredible. It's kind of like how the original Jurassic Park movie has such incredible CGI for the 90's. The technology was very primitive but the guys who made it were industry veterans with decades of experience, they used all that knowledge and experience and then applied it to the new CGI technology. For example the guy that oversaw the animations had never done computer animations before but he was one of the best stop motion animators in the world. As such he knew exactly how things should move realistically.
Same thing with Okami and Wind Waker
One detail that puts this into perspective really well. It such a small detail but shows care in the development. Go find a wooden plank fence. If you use the batmobile you can hit the fence it will destroy it board by board. If you drive slow. Which is unimportant but it shows attention to detail. Most of the scenic destruction is very well done.
usually I look for small things like these in videogames. Shows dedication from the developers.
7 years to carefully figure out whats the best in the game in order to not have any of that in your new game. What a team of legends.
You could apply that to the entire AAA videogame industry as a whole. The 2000's and early 2010's saw game companies finally figure out how to make the best games they possibly could, all so they could take those lessons and avoid doing anything like that ever again.
It's crazy how even the grappling is better in Arkham knight, you can see there is some weight to batman whenever he grapples onto something, whereas in Gotham Knights you lose all sense of momentum and just go straight to where you grappled onto
Looking at this footage of Batgirl zipping around in Gotham, it's even worse considering that Batgirl in the Arkham DLC has weight to her and is just animated so much better.
You gotta remember Batman and batgirl are two different people Batman is built different batgirl is building different
@@starplayer2066 Yeah but in the DLC for Arkham night batgirl was was the same size but the way animation for the grappling is in the newer game just isn't as smooth looking
@@isaiahcullen1980 because batgirl is using a different utility from what batman used
@@lezty I'm talking about the DLC for bad girl in arkham knight is smoother than bad girl in the newer game. I'm not even talking about batman
I was always impressed with how the Arkham games handled Batman's cape. How it reacts to rain or snow, the way the cloth physics gives it realistic weight, and the fact that whenever you're gliding you can see small cuts in the cape. I'm still impressed even if Arkham Knight came out 7 years ago. And then you look at Batgirl's paper towel cape.
Having more cuts in the cape as the games go on is such a neat feature that I didn't notice until I had beaten and replayed them. It's super cool to see
They worked on that cape for two years
@@omega5040 I believe it was one person too. Whoever they are I hope they have that on their LinkedIn profile
@@omega5040 it was in arkham asylum, just Googled it
They had a whole separate design team for his cape lol
Batman Arkham knight: Badass
Gotham Knights: *Batass*
U talking about Barbara’s cake?💀
@@Morbius-Tension What does cake mean?
@@BlackSmith6969 her backside my pure hearted friend
@@BlackSmith6969 Ass
Friendly reminder that not only did Arkham Knight come out in 2015 like everyone else is mentioning, it was also made on the archaic Unreal Engine 3, which makes it even more astronomically impressive
@Dan Cevidanes I don't think it would do much the engine they used was heavily modified and it's about art direction more than the engine
call me conspiranoic but nowadays reflections and shadows seem to be deliberate shit just to push the unnecesary raytracing on all games
@@abe191089 I've noticed that too.
I loved Unreal Engine 3. It was a prominent staple of the 7th generation of gaming, and so many games were powered by it. Not all of them looked good, but those that did were able to show off some really awesome environments, lighting, character designs and particle effects.
And yet it wasn't impressive at the time, it was the butt of the joke, much like AC Unity because no one had the best GPUs of their times.
The Batman Arkham series were on another level. It's so complete. I'm glad they made them
I wish we could get more
@@soar123 me too bro
I agree, I am blessed to still have the original still left to experience but hawt damn the original Arkham city/Knight made my highschool years so fun. I miss those days of having a FINISHED game on day 1 😭🤦🏽♂️🔥
Should’ve made an Arkham origins remastered rather than this garbage😂
Agreed I wish they put out an upgrade patch for next gen consoles
The difference is art direction and aesthetics. Most normal people don't see art direction or aesthetics as separate from graphical fidelity. So as not to bore people, the simplified reason of why games "don't look/feel good" nowadays is because technology has become a lot more accessible and cheap compared to before. In the past, if you wanted to make a good game, you needed at least a certain minimum level of skill, knowledge and experience JUST to make everything work at all. Technology could not compensate for mistakes or oversights, and we had to get extremely creative and smart. Nowadays, technology can do a LOT of the heavy lifting so people don't need to do insane tricks to get things working. This is good, for the most part. Saves a lot of time and man hours. The issue is that some people (and you see this a lot with inexperienced UNREAL devs), just decide to let the tech handle it without giving it a second thought. So they just throw all their assets in without proper budget or optimization. And this results in increased hardware requirements for the players. The second big issue is that there are diminishing returns to realistic graphics. Beyond a certain point of realism, it just costs too much compared to the gains.
You can feel that in everything.
Music, art, architecture...
I'm worried about that.
To be fair, you have to have a high IQ to understand art direction.
the Chair for my animation and game design program says it best; When people want "Realistic" they mean they just don't like what your art/game looks like. I've had clients ask me to design a scene of an apartment in Los Angeles with the golden gate bridge seen from the window....
People want realism but often forget that actual realism is boring. True artists know how to look at realsim as a spectrum and know when and how to exaggerate for the sake of appeal, this is something that suits or AI will never understand.
Nah, its firing white men and hiring women/black people for "diversity"
Nobody asked or cares
"Perhaps i treated you too harshly"
Ra really had a point about theatrics. Like that Batmobile vs bike entrance. Having it roar in the distance and spawn just behind you instead of just appearing in front of you makes all the difference.
True but this is missing context. In Knights the city is fully populated, its business as usual. So they have to be stealthy, as the cops are also after you. So invisible bike makes sense. In Knight the entire map is evacuated by civilians so batman doesn't have to be as subtle if he doesn't want to be.
@@Krackerjax my guy trying to defend a shit game
@@Krackerjax Sure, but I feel like a different effect and some distortion would go a long way to make that invisible bike thing more realistic since as it stands rn, it looks bland. Could've arrived from the back a little, with small and subtle distortion like when the Helicarrier cloaks or any "invisible" effects appearing before uncloaking in front of you.
@@Krackerjax Cuz rn, that bike looks invisible and intangible, though we know it should only be invisible, but the bike is there.
@@Krackerjax EVEN WITH THE CONTEXT, they picked the CHEAPEST decloak visual effect they can find.
Like that kind of special effects are things you see on a cartoony game like Overwatch, and OW is already a cheaply, rushed game on development.
If you're still not convince that Gotham Knights is like a high school project compared to Batman Arkham Knight, then you just have no soul
The thing about Arkham that really impressed me the most was the point when you notice that the situation of clothing of batman from start was completely fine but after big missions its torn, tattered, bruised and messed up when you come to ending. It goes to know how much work was put in narrative building. These little things are inspiring and makes you feel the pain Batman has gone through for the whole night.
I hate when I bruise my clothes
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That is not 'narrative building' 🤦
@@Zeus.thunder it is, when it depicts the idea of hard night for batman through visual means. You can look at the state of the batsuit to understand that he has had a tough night. It doesn't go from fine to worse in a single go but rather it happens gradually overtime you do main missions.
The longest night ever.
Arkhan Knight was and is an outstanding videogame. The atmosphere is brilliant, the content is goooooood and the combat is top notch gameplay. You can see the dev's love everywhere
The Batmobile in Arkham knight is simply the pinnacle of driving in an action game. Never gets old driving that thing.
In that case rocksteady did it for the first time as well, driving in a game that is. It was surprisingly awesome.
No one's said it yet but the sound design in Arkham Knight is just impeccable as well. When you soar the sky and fold/unfold the wings, it really sounds like a bat fluttering around.
Also don't forget how good the batmobiles engine and weapons sound. It really feels and sounds like you're in a hot rod tank.
@@Sasquatch33 one thing i hate in arkham is that they use batmobile a lot and boss fight were just not as good as before. but neverthless, it was still a great game.
Somene actually said this 8 months ago on the same video lol
@@curious_one_v2 Cool, I'm not scrolling through 8 months of comments.
@@MbappeKing70that’s a fair criticism
It’s not even the visual aspect of it, when you walk as Batman, your footsteps have so much weight and the noise they make when you walk just exudes how much power he has as a character, such a cool little feature there
He's much beefier than Batgirl though, it only makes sense
I mean that’s just a poor design choice in between devs. But i agree it does make a difference though. The grappling animations seem pretty identical just in Knighhts it’s not as polished to not show the jarring
Transition/in between motions as shown in the Arkham series.
But past that you’d think folks(devs and producers)! would see a good idea and great execution and think to just repeat and replicate those results.
@@MrSquishy0 It's not about physical mass (both of these are just 3d shapes moving forward slowly), It's about the details. In Arkham Knight the camera dynamically moves with the subject (batman), bobbing with each step, adding emphasis to each footsteps. The animations are long, flowing, and seamless and the sound design also imparts more details that immerse you further; loud footsteps with multiple different sound effects that trigger, so each footfall sounds unique and close to what we experience in real life, also varied depending on the surface he makes contact with.
Compare it to Batgirl who has a short, stiff walking animations with no variation or other visual flourishes, so you can clearly see the animation loops. The camera is fixed and doesn't emphasise anything, and the sound effects are muted and samey, you can hear the repetition. Hell even look at the pedestrian to the side, he doesn't even have shadows.
Just in that one clip there's a WORLD of difference between the level of care that the Arkham Knight devs took to create an immersive, realistic world, and the Gotham Knights devs who I personally believe just did the bare minimum to meet their contractual obligations and get the game out on time.
I just want to add that let's not forget that Arkham Knight had an absolutely terrible launch too. Performance issues across the board crippling the game's success that couldn't be addressed in a timely manner beacause they were dealing with their own pressures to release the game, but under rough edges you see a project filled with love and care. Nowadays, big open world games like this are formulaic as ever and created to tick boxes instead of providing an immersive experience.
We're going backwards
Agreed. The animations are much better in Arkham Knight
Were we too harsh on Gotham Knights now that SS:KTJL has been released?
The aesthetics of Arkam Knight are sooo nice, the way Batman's cape flys to the side when he's walking because of the wind, it's those small details that bring the game to life
I think my favorite thing about the Arkham series was that every action felt like it had weight to it. Like when you punch a bad guy all the focus went into to that punch. I find games these days really miss that mark.
As many of you that may dislike the batmobile, you have to admit that the way they developed its summon is seamlessly impeccable.
oh yeah that was totally badass, the straight driving sections were epic too.
how it would just obliterate cars and send people flying. too bad 60% of the game consisted of tank fights against drones.
I think Cloaking tech and the idea that the Batcycle is always around is more badass and makes more sense when taken into account that a tween can remove your Bat-tires then a grown man should too then the Batmobile is useless but I loved how the Batmobile just comes to you lol And the Thugs checking out the Batmobile is harlious
@@cameronphares2482 especially the mission where we had to destroy all those heavy tanks with the 90mm ammo
It made you feel like you you were playing a Batman movie with how it seemingly comes out of nowhere
@@cameronphares2482 Did you know that’s actually only 28% for just the story? Still far too much, but I just wanted to be a smartass, sorry :D
I keep coming back to this video for some reason because I keep playing Arkham Knight and it still is blowing me away. Even on my poor, dying PS4.
Real talk.. I prefer this over SSKTJL. Graphically it looks better, the send off for batman wasnt a slap in the face, and it had a decent story as well as amazing traversal.. Gotham Knights had more love put into it than SSKTJL.. Agree or disagree this doesnt change the fact that OVERALL it is a better end than the justice league game.
edit: even the water is better in GK than SSKTJL😭
The community does gotham knights so dirty for 0 reason 💀💀💀
@@jetstreamsam8221 It at least has more going for it than this new game, even the launch was better since the servers and shit kept crashing for ssktjl for a while
You forgot to show how house corners gets smashed to pieces when the batmobile hits them. I think that was great, it doesn't just show the power of the batmobile but also doesn't slows down your driving if you take a corner wrong.
That's so true when I 1st played the game and I took a s***** corner and I smashed through the house I felt like a f****** bad a**
@@connermiller7291 Are you seriously censoring yourself?
cringe.
@@kiddhkane TH-cam is starting to shadowban comments that curse, it’s likely that without censorship we couldn’t see that comment
@@kiddhkane TH-cam demonization detects that I think.
@@connermiller7291 this mothafucka really censored himself…
What’s amazing is that in Arkham Knight, the Batmobile literally just stays where you leave it. It doesn’t despawn unless you’re across the map from it. And usually if you’re within 200 metres of it, it’ll actually drive to you when you call it, instead of just appearing
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@Vivid Lucidity lol this guy
Stop flaming the batcyle of all things. It optical camouflage thats why it just appears and disappears. If you did have to call it, it would run over people like in arkham knight where the thugs would get electrocuted
I guess we owe Gotham Knight an apology now 💀
I like that the community came around and enjoyed this game. I will admit that even though I bought Arkham Asylum, City, and Origins with all the DLC I STILL avoided getting Arkham Knight when it first came out because it had so many mixed reviews.
I've owned it for a couple years now and i absolutely love the game and can't wait for the switch port (hopefully the adam west batman skin is included in the switch version since you needed a mod to get it on PC)
I think I never played this one because of Origins being so bad and I heard it was optimized poorly for PC. I should play it now, the bugs should be fixed.
they run perfectly on PC know I would recommend you giving them a chance forsure. and the PC version of knight has a mod that adds the PS4 exclusive Adam West batman suit.@@kosmosXcannon
What I like the most about modern games is that graphics are barely changing from title to title but system requirements only get higher
Graphics are absolutely changing. You’re just not noticing it.
@@TheAluvisify They aren't...the so called next-gen is a joke,only now we're getting games announced that look a bit advanced graphic wise but so far the games look the same as what we had in the past gen.
Yes because idiot devs are focusing on performance...which is why this gen is a joke.
@@TheAluvisify so what's the point then ?
@@TheAluvisifytell that to almost ten year old red dead redemption 2 and other games
Sometimes the Batmobile spawns far away from you where you summon it and the result is hearing it roar from very far away in an echoey effect, I don't think it's intentional but that very specific and tiny moment makes Arkham Knight one of the greatest
It is intentional and its awesome. Theres nothing like hearing the batmobile howling in the distance and then you see thugs running down the street away from something, and there is the massive batmobile tank chasing after them like a movie monster, only to swerve to a halt in front of you like a loyal dog. A true masterpiece.
Also the AI of it is great, it never buged in my game
@@owenleal this comment made me want to replay the game lmao
It happens more and more lately on my old Xbox One and it just adds to the experience
It's done to avoid literally the problem we see with the new game.
The car always spawn just outside of your view so its not just magically appearing in front of you when though thats exactly what is happening.
The witcher 3 does the same thing with the horse, it will spawn just slightly out of view and come running up to you.
Even GTA would try spawn your personal cars where ever the player wasn't looking
It seems these days the devs don't care enough to do that anymore
I never realized you could hear the weight behind Bruce’s footsteps in Arkham knight, really nice touch
you would think gotham knights was thhe old one. Not to mention I have literally never heard of this game at all until this video popped up on my recommendations
Arkham Knight was truly something special. It still looks absolutely incredible seven years later (seven years?! The time flies). The technical aspects, the art design, the atmosphere, the weather, the effects, the animations, EVERYTHING just looks SO GOOD and is complimented by top notch, ridiculously punchy and crisp sound design. It's just so... satisfying to play or even just watch.
And then you have Gotham Knights which looks like a mod for Saints Row IV.
“Time waits for no one” -TGWLTT
Yet yall were clowning it when it came out
@@chaosdilk4411 it came out unplayable and broken as shit, so yeah of course we are going to clown it
@@Battlefiel97 on PC maybe, but on consoles it was smooth like butter, so that’s not really fair
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What kills me is Batgirl's momentum whenever she grapples. She stops midair, doesn't matter if she was falling or rising, and slowly reaches her destination. Whereas in Arkham Knight your momentum never stops, so you keep falling and you also reach you grapple point fast af.
Like spiderman swinging In the avengers game and the insomniac one
Just noticed that yeah. They just stop and float in the air before being pulled, weird.
Yeah and Batman’s movement feels more weighted because of that reason unlike Batgirl’s movement in Gotham Knight, adds a bit of realism into that
well, the whole physics of the hook is fucked up. NOtice how Batman always hooks on point higher than him, speeds upwards and then soars. Meanwhile Batgirls hook graples anywhere and it doesnt matter if she is higher o the anchor, she just goes to the hook. That is just common sense, not even development related.
Actually i was about to say the same thing, the momentum breaks, so it does not look good to play
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My old Xbox 360 is long dead, but my 9 year old son started playing Arkham Knight on game pass...he loved it so i re- bought the entire trilogy on Series X. So while most 9 year olds are playing Roblox and Fortnight my boy is about to complete the entirety of the Batman Arkham trilogy....raise 'em right gentlemen...raise 'em right.
And now a days Gotham nights is great compared to suicide squad
You know with the Batmobile always coming in instantly after you call it I liked to imagine it was like a dog/cat that was always slowly following behind him waiting to get called lol
hahaha I thought I was the only one
That's exactly what it does, you can see it following you in detective mode and you look at the city when you're on a rooftop
If you can SEE it from afar and press the call button, you can see it ride its way to you. It was really cool how it didn't just spawn behind you or... this new crap where a whole ass vehicle materializes itself into existence in front of you and they chalk it up to "aLiEn/QuAnTuM tEcHnOlOgY" or "HigHly aDvAnCeD StEaLtH SHrOuD tEcH".. gtfo just let me see the vehicle come from behind a corner or something at least 😂
@@rootbeermcgee never realized this until now! just launched knight and saw it for myself
@@TheDezembro Fr 😭
The Arkham games were so far ahead of their time and made with so much love that it's almost unreal
Haha, unreal
@@trollcrafter1800 heyo!
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It flopped hard lol, also had one of the worst PC realeases. Was a classic moneygrab
@@sensaiko he's talking about the whole series not the last entry
companies have realized they don't need to try to make a profit anymore
Arkham Knight is one of the Best superhero games EVER. Combat, missions, content, sound design and even DLC packs are incredible. It's one of the only games I have over 100% complete and still haven't finished all the missions and challenges years later. If it were released again with a little modern polish it would be worth every penny. The only thing missing is patrolling the city as the "others". One of my goats of gaming for sure
Graphics are temporary, Art Direction is eternal
Basically Bloodborne
@@chadderbug7587 nah mate, try Zelda The Windwaker
@@AR_112 na mate legacy of kain
@@klonoa450 legacy of irrelevant
@@klonoa450nah mate try Zelda breath of the wild
The physics of Batman’s cape alone is insane
LMAO THROW AWAY COMMENT ABOUT BATMAN'S CAPE WINS?!?!?!?
@@bebehillz yk that’s a bot right
@@bebehillz it's call admiration for the time they put into it, 600 different animations, G.K Robin cape clips through his cock. Disrespectful to dismiss and groups work, maybe you should give it a try and see how hard it is. Your comments are the only throwaway, recreational hate without any based comeback.
Yea after the swinging comparison, i was like Arkham knight is better
The sound design is nice
Gotham Knights looked better than Suicide Squad.
Lack of passion. More of corporate greed.
I love how it ended with the water comparison, just in case you still had any doubts 😂
Tbf both water engines look pretty common.
@@handgun559 the first was a trash mesh overlay, the actual had multiple levels of physics.
@@handgun559 do you have functional eyes? How did you even type this comment?
Gosh I wonder what ideological movement has happened in the last decade that’s permeated into all aspects of entertainment that may have something to do with the massive decrease in quality
EDIT: feminism has been around longer than a decade you morons
@@defaultname7685 no. Fuck you. We need to oust people like you from our communities. You're an actively xenophobic shit who no one should give the time of day to.
If you're on the fence; you are a bad person. Having minority representation shouldn't offend you, buddy.
Even after putting almost 100 hours into Arkham Knight, I'm getting an urge to reinstall the game .
Edit: Reinstalled Arkham Knight as well as the Shadow of Mordor games along with it.
Gotham knights made me appreciate arkham knight.
I put like 315 hours and I still want more. I wish there was a remaster to get all the trophies again.
@@DiegoTequila At this point, I would give anything to play as Batman specifically made by Rocksteady.
I've lost all faith in WB Montreal. Coming from a guy who used to defend Arkham Origins.
hopefully not excited for the tank boss fights
@@ray-tx8yx Arkham Origins was good too, but the Rocksteady ones slaps
Hittin a u turn for the truck is crazy😂
0:36 do NOT tell me batgirl just rammed the shit out of that npc 😭
I'm 101% convinced Gotham Knights was supposed to be a live service game with all those amazing skins locked behind paywalls (or absolutely insane levels of grinding), but the devs backpedaled on it after seeing Avengers crash and burn. It's the only explanation why the skins look so good and there is so much customization options when everything else looks and feels so low effort.
Never realized how bad the grappling was in gk. You literally stop mid air and then go, whereas in arkham you actually keep momentum. How did this happen. 😭
Same with Spidey in the Avengers game.
Different devs guys they aren’t rocksteady Arkham knight was made by them, so the grapple gun may feel different it’s not a 1 to 1
But the Arkham games are more preferable to Gotham knights
@@BloopersINCjr different devs shouldn't mean different physics, batman stories usually take place on planet earth after all
@@ombricshalazar3869 true
Physics has not been invented yet in Gotham knights 🫠🫠
Gotham Knighrs looks amazing for 2015 and Arkham Knight looks amazing for 2024
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I like the improvements they made with Arkham Knight. They learned a lot from making Gotham Knights
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what’s funny is Gotham Knights had a similar if not longer development period than Arkham Knight as well. Still blows me away to this day that Arkham Knight was made in 2015
Good thing Marty McFly helped release it back in 2015. Or else that would have sucked just like Gotham Knights does. Dodged a huge bullet.
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Been that way for years. "Games as entertainment" is running strong on the dollars of whales and children, but games as an artform is circling extinction regularly.
I adore Arkham Knights sound design. The noise the cape produces as it flutters in the wind is so crisp.
arkham series stands out as one of the best sound designing. my favourite gliding sound was AC's also combat sounds.
then comes AO, the electric shock globes really sounds so freakin amazing.
then the best of all AK. from destroying the last tank, glide sound after release of grapnel boost, and diving and gliding upwards. the sounds that cape makes it so satisfying to hear. not to mention batmobile's afterburner, eject, battle mode sounds. so fantastic.
i still love arkham series.
PS: AA is my least favorite. the only thing i love about it is the environment, music & superbatclaw.
@@RaptorRoyaleW bro
I remember the first game that really impressed me with its sound design was the original Mass Effect. It was the first game I remember running around in just to hear the variations in the footstep sounds based on the material you were walking on.
Yea I remember AC sounds really gas
Graphics and sounds can be remastered your looking at it in correctly overall its the same game Ark-ham Knights is way better both in my opinion graphically and game-play wise, the other game is garbage and a waist of money.
I’ve played Arkham knight for every system and now the switch. Yea the graphics for the switch OLED aren’t as good as the other systems but having AK in your handheld system feels awesome. Getting those hours in to 100% every mission gives you a sense of accomplishment. I’m still looking for all of the riddler trophies to be able to capture him and activate the real protocol but whatever it’s fun and I haven’t gotten bored doing it
The ambience and details just make it so much livelier
What I love the most is how Arkham Knight's Gotham City looks, despite being lit quite pretty well, still manage to feel unique yet still gloomy and gothic. While Gotham Knight's city looks like Detroit at 2 AM.
To be fair Gotham is definitely closer to Detroit at 2 am
@@nyuan15 let's not offend Gotham now
@@Muxeroth f... the Gotham and Detroit... and USA 🤣🤪🤦♂
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I like the realism, Gotham basically is Detroit at 2 AM, plus the bike coming out of active camouflage, what a clever way to use the source material to allow players quick access to vehicles
goes to show how much love was really put into the game
😅 it was a Buggy mess on release though😂
@@PitchBlackLaser Seriously. People forgetting the Arkham Knight had to be pulled from Steam it was so broken lol.
@@HtBCutman it's not about being broken, bugs are repairable. These things are design problems, they fucked with design not production while Arkham Knight fucked up the production but was damn well designed
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This is a fucking joke
Since when did rocksteady put love into the arkham games?
in last 3 days i finally played(also finished) Arkham games and even arkham asylum feels so great in 2024 also definitly not look like 2009 game.
The major difference is one game was made with the tools that did not allow it to be rushed and still have a level of ""polish"". Due to modern engines doing all the "work" for devs, studios push more stupid deadlines which makes them rely more on the engine's own graphical "enhancements". Games like Arkham are prettier and more optimized because every single location you visit were carefully built within the limitations of the tools handed to the dev, which makes them both prettier, and more optimized. A concrete example of this is classic Fear's lighting fidelity. In short, game development has become a much more streamlined, automated system where productivity takes over product. Efficiency over efficacy. Think of it as a mass produced t-shirt compared to a finely crafted hand sown one. You'll miss out on a lot of the itty bitty quirks and details that makes the hand sown one so good, and really shows how low gaming has stooped lately.
I died of laughter when you emphasized the vehicle literally materializing out of nowhere
Like, Batman has this cool scene where the car drives into the scene and he hops into it as it's still moving and then Batgirl's motorcycle just materializes from nothing
@@teeth_denier The roar when it appears is on a different level of epic. They really put a lot of effort into making Batman seem as badass as possible in Arkham Knight
Who looked at that and thought it was a good idea lmao 💀
@@nicki322 its a vehicle that goes invisible? Do you really think it just materielizes?
and yet still can't get the game to run at 60fps on current gen, and barely runs stable at 30fps to begin with. They forgot how to optimize.
I've always loved how intense the sound design of Arkham Knight was. Especially the loud, mechanical noises of the Batmobile.
Top 20 HD games with meaty mechanical noises and the sounds of extreme machinery:-
1.Dead Space series
2.This game
3.Death Stranding
I noticed that Gotham knights has louder rain and thunder sound effects which I like. That’s about it tho
It sound angry as fuck
I much prefer the thundering, crunchy noises of Arkham Knight’s combat to the goofy ahh SFX of Gotham Knights
Sound Effect department is usually one of the more underappreciated aspect of video games in general.
It's not until we heard something off that we start to appreciate SFXs.
the engine roar of the batmobile is pure eargasm
I hate that when they showcased the grappling, they just didnt „supercharge“ the release of the hook. Idk if it was a special skill you had to learn first but im pretty sure there was a mechanic where when you let go of the hook at just the right time you would go really far. Maybe it was the pulling speed of the grapple that you could increase. I could be wrong completely though, haven’t played the game in a while
Arkham Knight was a once in a lifetime leap in game design, I don't really expect anything to compare. The artists in that game deserve so much credit for it.
Can't wait for Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League, the next ACTUAL RockSteady game
It's a little disingenuous to put these two games together as if they should be equal. Game dev is more than just technology as you said. The design of the Arkham games influenced numerous games after it (Like Spiderman and GoW in my opinion). To expect the same from a different company just because it's a Batman game is a little naive.
Red dead?
I'm sure Suicide Squad will compare.
game design is not the word you're looking for here
God the batmobile was great in Arkham Knight. I know some people thought the missions with it were repetitive/annoying, but the traversal with it was so much fun
What I liked at the Batmobile the most was the challenges with batmobiles 😄 I like racing games too and also being a big Batman fan. It was like a Win / Win for me.
Big difference between the two games for me is every time I called the bay mobile there was always a little bit of action wondering where it would come from, and then boom you’re in it. With the bay cycles their animations aren’t dynamic and it feels AWFUL even thinking of driving the thing because it’s so slow and clunky
@@LusioEcarts me too, i loved doing anything in the batmobile, especially gunning it and shooting out at top speed straight into a glide. It might be my absolute favorite traversal in a game (except Spider-Man of course lol)
@@colbyohanley6058 haven't played the new one, but yeah, the cycle looks like 0 fun
I liked the races and puzzles but the combat and stealth for me was terrible
It's funny, people actually said Arkham Knight was mid back then.
If only they knew.
The guy who designed batman's cape wrote a book about how he designed it such that it simulated cloth in real time, the challenge was that machines at that time would take few minutes to render one frame for a real cloth simulation, what technique he used that made it possible to put it into the game.
Really? What's the name of the book? That sounds really fascinating!
He spent one whole year programming just that cape.
As someone who loves capes in video games. Freakin worth it.
Bethesda take notes. Elder Scrolls 6 needs to have capes in vanilla game.
@@manz7860 Expect elder scrolls to be as disappointing as cyberpunk was. Even then you might still be disappointed
@@caralho5237 I've loved every elder Scrolls and fallout game since morrowind/F3.
I'm sure I will enjoy it.
Now that you see it in a side by side comparison, you truly realize just by how much Arkham Knight was ahead of its time
Edit: A lot of you are saying it was not 'ahead of its time' if you compare to good games from that era and I agree, I did not mean it was *literally* 'ahead of its time'. It's just that I was really impressed by it
Not "ahead of it's time" that's literally impossible. Just a really good game, the technology existed obviously. It's not ahead of it's time.
@@Shiny101 jeez bro you don't have to be literal about everything
@@Shiny101 Ever heard of expressions? Lmao
@@ChemyNoSurfea just because devs now are lazy and realize people will buy just about anything with a popular character in it doesnt make an old game ahead of its time
Arkham Knight was shit on release. Everyone knows this. I dont get how you mfers forget this was literally unplayable on PC for MONTHS.
Arkham Knight was shit and still is.
Idk about the new game, havent played it yet so I cant say if its shit like arkham shit.
They probably are still updating Arkham Knight
I'm currently replaying the Arkham Knight on the Ally and having a bangin time. The story, the gameplay, the graphics everything is just a chef's kiss
Wow it's crazy how many improvements they can make in 7 years. The graphics, sound design, collision, and overall ambiance improved so much in Arkham Knight. Can't believe it's already been 7 years since Gotham Knights came out... time flies!
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Umm..you are joking right?
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@@M_k-zi3tn Of course they are
You need to keep in mind that Batman was developed by Rocksteady, who are wizards of using Unreal Engine. Extremely talented team!
Gotham Knights sucked....for the technology available. Plain and simple, no need to be nice. But that Bat-Man was developped by Rocksteady only means that they're more competent than these bozoes who did Knights.
@@mcentepede While I could barely understand that, I agree
@@mcentepede WB Montreal sadly has had a very rocky Batman path. Origins was also very iffy, but Knights looks like a live service changed to single player, as someone else said. I hope it was at least passable and does well enough to get more Batfamily games later down, and done the best possible way.
@@mcentepede Yep. I'd say, in this case particularly, there's no need to be nice. It looks ugly.
@@mcentepede the story just keeps repeating, team does amazing makes owner rich. rich owner makes a bad decision that the team disagrees with, rich man fire them all because they wont brown nose for him. business fails with new team
One detail that I noticed is when Batgirl is moving in the air and she activates her Batclaw she stops moving in the air for a second like she cancels her momentum in mid air. However when Batman activates his Batclaw in mid air he still carries the momentum.
One game was made with love... the other one was just made.
It just shows how important art direction is! Even with the most realistic visuals, if you can't capture that proper "feel," it won't matter. And also the reason why certain older video games have held up so well.
Yup! One of the best pieces of advice I ever got from an art teacher was unless accuracy is critical it doesn't need to BE right it needs to look and feel right. Is this how the shadows would really look? How water would really shimmer, or fabric actually fold? Does it look appealing to the eye and not jump out as wrong? Then go with it.
Yea so much modern games don't have it no more.
Dmc 5, the newer halo games (not counting infinite), and this one too.
The art style is why to me Halo 3 still looks great, minus character models and facial animations. The art style and details make it look amazing to me still to this day. Even CoD 2 looks amazing too, I actually prefer its visuals to CoD 4 as they feel like they've aged better in a weird way (the original anyway, remaster still looks amazing, and CoD 4 still looks great, but it's a bit drab in sone spots, but maybe that's just me).
Art direction has nothing to do with it. Old games dont hold up because they look pretty.
I think it's just a budget difference.
The graphics of Arkham knight were just so far ahead of their time. That game was built with attention.
And affection.
& gameplay...oh & AI interactions
@@StuffyMc and erection
I remember it got delayed almost a year from its original release (just like the SS game has currently been) they needed it just perfect.
@@jimmymeridian5174 those were the days weren't they
One year later this is still insane to me
And they say batman doesn't kill people..
The tone, colors, darkness, occasional lightning and slight rain make such a huge difference in establishing the setting. It really puts you IN Gotham
Are you a IGN employee?
"Really makes you FEEL like Batman"
Really makes you FEEL like Gotham City
God bless this reply section lmao
The assets in the new game just suck ass in general, just look at the design of the buildings in Arkham compared to Gotham Knights.
I think the idea is you aren't really "calling" the bike, you're just deactivating its optical camoflage to reveal it next to you. The effect is pretty indistinguishable from just having the bike teleport in, though (which is literally what the game is doing). And it's certainly not as badass as calling the Batmobile and then after a few seconds' delay hearing the roar of the engine and seeing it come flying around the corner
Wait, that effect *isn't* supposed to look like someone dying in fortnite??? I. Huh... I mean, I feel like there are a lot of ways you could convey that it's coming out of camouflage, first one that comes to mind is that thing that marvel movies especially do with big ships having tons of little cameras or mirrors on them, if you had a moment to watch as it kind of "shimmered" into your view that would be genuinely sick, watching as this nondescript patch of environment is revealed to be hiding a vehicle, but instead we got.. That.
is that what that is? camoflage?
Listen IDC about badass it's quicker and it gets me there ight lol.
Sorry to say this game not Arkham
@@clairifedverified2513 what kind of fucking complaint is that ?
So it's following her around like an invisible dog waiting to decloak?
The truth is Gotham knight is not overhated. It is not hated enough
for me its the realistic speed tearing at the edges of the screen as we move at light speed
The best part about the Gotham Knights release is that it actually made me redownload Arkham Knight for another playthrough 7 years later!
You’re cringe 💀
@@someuniverseguy7062 ok... why?
@@BennyTxD Most likely because you can't get Gotham Knights on PS4 but you can get Arkham Knight.
Literally in the same boat
@@kingcrimson2643 Lmao 😂🤣😂🤣
If you'd never seen these two games before and were told that they were 7 years apart, you would instantly think Arkham Knight was the newer game. That's how good it is even 7 years later.
Believe it or not. I actually did. I had to think for a minute to realize Arkham was older.
I still dont know which game is Arkham Knight. The batman one looks nice tho
@@polsoto Arkham knight is the much better looking one with Batman
@@Bocchi-the-Rock_ I never said it was better game overall, I just said it was better looking. I never said anything about how the biking spawning out of nowhere was worse, or anything like that. Besides Gotham Knights just sucks anyways
@@Bocchi-the-Rock_ No mate, I never exclusively talked about graphics. And I don't even understand what you're saying. Arkham Knight has better graphics, but even if Gotham Knights had better graphics (which it should have considering it's release date was 7 years after Arkham Knight), it would still be the inferior game by a country mile (which it shouldn't be considering it was released 7 years after Arkham Knight).
Arkham Knight is superior to Gotham Knights in every way, and that's a terrible thing, considering Gotham Knights was released *7 years* after Arkham Knight.
Now I'm going through Gotham Knights before that I went through all the Batman games for all the achievements in steam. It's very sad to look at Gotham Knights against the background of other Batman games. But I understand that since it won't be before. This game is no longer about Batman, but about his teenage family...
It seems that people decided they couldn't improve on Arkham Knight and decided to ruin every future DC game that followed... Fuck Suicide Squad
The fact this game is 7 years old makes me realise how quickly time can pass
8 now
Fuuuu i can remember the first trailer
In Africa every 60 seconds a minute passes.
@@zwenkwiel816ye no shit
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