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@@LawysArt Gotham Knights is objectively worse than Knight but lets not revise history and act like Rocksteady wasnt sick and tired of making Batman Arkham games. It shows that Knight is the weakest Rocksteady game especially in terms of writing (deliberately not bringing back Paul Dini) and boss battles. They wanted to wash their hands of the series because continuing one series for 6 years would get tiring
I was always impressed with how the Arkham games handled Batman's cape. How it reacts to rain or snow, the way the cloth physics gives it realistic weight, and the fact that whenever you're gliding you can see small cuts in the cape. I'm still impressed even if Arkham Knight came out 7 years ago. And then you look at Batgirl's paper towel cape.
Having more cuts in the cape as the games go on is such a neat feature that I didn't notice until I had beaten and replayed them. It's super cool to see
You could apply that to the entire AAA videogame industry as a whole. The 2000's and early 2010's saw game companies finally figure out how to make the best games they possibly could, all so they could take those lessons and avoid doing anything like that ever again.
If its anything like our company, we went woke and many of our best people left and those that were hired on were heavy DEI where it mattered more than you were a Mexican lesbian than actually best qualified.
@@TheAluvisify They aren't...the so called next-gen is a joke,only now we're getting games announced that look a bit advanced graphic wise but so far the games look the same as what we had in the past gen.
The thing about Arkham that really impressed me the most was the point when you notice that the situation of clothing of batman from start was completely fine but after big missions its torn, tattered, bruised and messed up when you come to ending. It goes to know how much work was put in narrative building. These little things are inspiring and makes you feel the pain Batman has gone through for the whole night.
@@Zeus.thunder it is, when it depicts the idea of hard night for batman through visual means. You can look at the state of the batsuit to understand that he has had a tough night. It doesn't go from fine to worse in a single go but rather it happens gradually overtime you do main missions.
Sometimes the Batmobile spawns far away from you where you summon it and the result is hearing it roar from very far away in an echoey effect, I don't think it's intentional but that very specific and tiny moment makes Arkham Knight one of the greatest
It is intentional and its awesome. Theres nothing like hearing the batmobile howling in the distance and then you see thugs running down the street away from something, and there is the massive batmobile tank chasing after them like a movie monster, only to swerve to a halt in front of you like a loyal dog. A true masterpiece.
It's done to avoid literally the problem we see with the new game. The car always spawn just outside of your view so its not just magically appearing in front of you when though thats exactly what is happening. The witcher 3 does the same thing with the horse, it will spawn just slightly out of view and come running up to you. Even GTA would try spawn your personal cars where ever the player wasn't looking It seems these days the devs don't care enough to do that anymore
I agree, I am blessed to still have the original still left to experience but hawt damn the original Arkham city/Knight made my highschool years so fun. I miss those days of having a FINISHED game on day 1 😭🤦🏽♂️🔥
Reminds me of what somebody said about Dead Space: the reason a 14 year old game can old up relatively well is due to art direction, appropriate visual obscurity, and effects.
The technology was more limited but the artists were incredible. It's kind of like how the original Jurassic Park movie has such incredible CGI for the 90's. The technology was very primitive but the guys who made it were industry veterans with decades of experience, they used all that knowledge and experience and then applied it to the new CGI technology. For example the guy that oversaw the animations had never done computer animations before but he was one of the best stop motion animators in the world. As such he knew exactly how things should move realistically.
It’s not even the visual aspect of it, when you walk as Batman, your footsteps have so much weight and the noise they make when you walk just exudes how much power he has as a character, such a cool little feature there
I mean that’s just a poor design choice in between devs. But i agree it does make a difference though. The grappling animations seem pretty identical just in Knighhts it’s not as polished to not show the jarring Transition/in between motions as shown in the Arkham series. But past that you’d think folks(devs and producers)! would see a good idea and great execution and think to just repeat and replicate those results.
@@MrSquishy0 It's not about physical mass (both of these are just 3d shapes moving forward slowly), It's about the details. In Arkham Knight the camera dynamically moves with the subject (batman), bobbing with each step, adding emphasis to each footsteps. The animations are long, flowing, and seamless and the sound design also imparts more details that immerse you further; loud footsteps with multiple different sound effects that trigger, so each footfall sounds unique and close to what we experience in real life, also varied depending on the surface he makes contact with. Compare it to Batgirl who has a short, stiff walking animations with no variation or other visual flourishes, so you can clearly see the animation loops. The camera is fixed and doesn't emphasise anything, and the sound effects are muted and samey, you can hear the repetition. Hell even look at the pedestrian to the side, he doesn't even have shadows. Just in that one clip there's a WORLD of difference between the level of care that the Arkham Knight devs took to create an immersive, realistic world, and the Gotham Knights devs who I personally believe just did the bare minimum to meet their contractual obligations and get the game out on time. I just want to add that let's not forget that Arkham Knight had an absolutely terrible launch too. Performance issues across the board crippling the game's success that couldn't be addressed in a timely manner beacause they were dealing with their own pressures to release the game, but under rough edges you see a project filled with love and care. Nowadays, big open world games like this are formulaic as ever and created to tick boxes instead of providing an immersive experience.
No one's said it yet but the sound design in Arkham Knight is just impeccable as well. When you soar the sky and fold/unfold the wings, it really sounds like a bat fluttering around.
@@Sasquatch33 one thing i hate in arkham is that they use batmobile a lot and boss fight were just not as good as before. but neverthless, it was still a great game.
My old Xbox 360 is long dead, but my 9 year old son started playing Arkham Knight on game pass...he loved it so i re- bought the entire trilogy on Series X. So while most 9 year olds are playing Roblox and Fortnight my boy is about to complete the entirety of the Batman Arkham trilogy....raise 'em right gentlemen...raise 'em right.
Ra really had a point about theatrics. Like that Batmobile vs bike entrance. Having it roar in the distance and spawn just behind you instead of just appearing in front of you makes all the difference.
True but this is missing context. In Knights the city is fully populated, its business as usual. So they have to be stealthy, as the cops are also after you. So invisible bike makes sense. In Knight the entire map is evacuated by civilians so batman doesn't have to be as subtle if he doesn't want to be.
@@Krackerjax Sure, but I feel like a different effect and some distortion would go a long way to make that invisible bike thing more realistic since as it stands rn, it looks bland. Could've arrived from the back a little, with small and subtle distortion like when the Helicarrier cloaks or any "invisible" effects appearing before uncloaking in front of you.
@@Krackerjax EVEN WITH THE CONTEXT, they picked the CHEAPEST decloak visual effect they can find. Like that kind of special effects are things you see on a cartoony game like Overwatch, and OW is already a cheaply, rushed game on development. If you're still not convince that Gotham Knights is like a high school project compared to Batman Arkham Knight, then you just have no soul
Friendly reminder that not only did Arkham Knight come out in 2015 like everyone else is mentioning, it was also made on the archaic Unreal Engine 3, which makes it even more astronomically impressive
I loved Unreal Engine 3. It was a prominent staple of the 7th generation of gaming, and so many games were powered by it. Not all of them looked good, but those that did were able to show off some really awesome environments, lighting, character designs and particle effects.
Arkham Knight was truly something special. It still looks absolutely incredible seven years later (seven years?! The time flies). The technical aspects, the art design, the atmosphere, the weather, the effects, the animations, EVERYTHING just looks SO GOOD and is complimented by top notch, ridiculously punchy and crisp sound design. It's just so... satisfying to play or even just watch. And then you have Gotham Knights which looks like a mod for Saints Row IV.
It's mind boggling how Arkham Knight still looks insanely good. It's just timeless. I bet if it was released in 2023 noone would say it's graphics are outdated
Arkham Knight's textures and atmosphere carry it hard, just like how Arkham Asylum back in 2009 looked pretty damn good despite the models being pretty lackluster. These games textures are solid as hell and the lightning is so good
Also the fact that it can run on a business laptop of 1.3 kg with 1080p settings. Like, I wonder if its the gaming companies fault to pay less compared to others and hire bad programmers nowadays. Like RDR2 has the exceptional graphics and yet it can reach 25 FPS in business laptops with NVidia MX350 (really good optimization from Rockstar). This then saddens me how games like God Of War (not talking about Ragnarok) cannot be played with 30FPS stable 1080p in business laptops, like what is the excuse?
What’s amazing is that in Arkham Knight, the Batmobile literally just stays where you leave it. It doesn’t despawn unless you’re across the map from it. And usually if you’re within 200 metres of it, it’ll actually drive to you when you call it, instead of just appearing
Stop flaming the batcyle of all things. It optical camouflage thats why it just appears and disappears. If you did have to call it, it would run over people like in arkham knight where the thugs would get electrocuted
I think my favorite thing about the Arkham series was that every action felt like it had weight to it. Like when you punch a bad guy all the focus went into to that punch. I find games these days really miss that mark.
To be fair, some of those Arkham games were generational. Can't really compare them with any normal game if you want to talk about the state of gaming these days vs that era. For example, I find God Of War's combat mechanics just as satisfying.
It's crazy how even the grappling is better in Arkham knight, you can see there is some weight to batman whenever he grapples onto something, whereas in Gotham Knights you lose all sense of momentum and just go straight to where you grappled onto
Looking at this footage of Batgirl zipping around in Gotham, it's even worse considering that Batgirl in the Arkham DLC has weight to her and is just animated so much better.
@@starplayer2066 Yeah but in the DLC for Arkham night batgirl was was the same size but the way animation for the grappling is in the newer game just isn't as smooth looking
You forgot to show how house corners gets smashed to pieces when the batmobile hits them. I think that was great, it doesn't just show the power of the batmobile but also doesn't slows down your driving if you take a corner wrong.
Wow it's crazy how many improvements they can make in 7 years. The graphics, sound design, collision, and overall ambiance improved so much in Arkham Knight. Can't believe it's already been 7 years since Gotham Knights came out... time flies!
oh yeah that was totally badass, the straight driving sections were epic too. how it would just obliterate cars and send people flying. too bad 60% of the game consisted of tank fights against drones.
I think Cloaking tech and the idea that the Batcycle is always around is more badass and makes more sense when taken into account that a tween can remove your Bat-tires then a grown man should too then the Batmobile is useless but I loved how the Batmobile just comes to you lol And the Thugs checking out the Batmobile is harlious
arkham series stands out as one of the best sound designing. my favourite gliding sound was AC's also combat sounds. then comes AO, the electric shock globes really sounds so freakin amazing. then the best of all AK. from destroying the last tank, glide sound after release of grapnel boost, and diving and gliding upwards. the sounds that cape makes it so satisfying to hear. not to mention batmobile's afterburner, eject, battle mode sounds. so fantastic. i still love arkham series. PS: AA is my least favorite. the only thing i love about it is the environment, music & superbatclaw.
I remember the first game that really impressed me with its sound design was the original Mass Effect. It was the first game I remember running around in just to hear the variations in the footstep sounds based on the material you were walking on.
Graphics and sounds can be remastered your looking at it in correctly overall its the same game Ark-ham Knights is way better both in my opinion graphically and game-play wise, the other game is garbage and a waist of money.
Gosh I wonder what ideological movement has happened in the last decade that’s permeated into all aspects of entertainment that may have something to do with the massive decrease in quality EDIT: feminism has been around longer than a decade you morons
@@defaultname7685 no. Fuck you. We need to oust people like you from our communities. You're an actively xenophobic shit who no one should give the time of day to. If you're on the fence; you are a bad person. Having minority representation shouldn't offend you, buddy.
Now that you see it in a side by side comparison, you truly realize just by how much Arkham Knight was ahead of its time Edit: A lot of you are saying it was not 'ahead of its time' if you compare to good games from that era and I agree, I did not mean it was *literally* 'ahead of its time'. It's just that I was really impressed by it
@@ChemyNoSurfea just because devs now are lazy and realize people will buy just about anything with a popular character in it doesnt make an old game ahead of its time
Arkham Knight was shit on release. Everyone knows this. I dont get how you mfers forget this was literally unplayable on PC for MONTHS. Arkham Knight was shit and still is. Idk about the new game, havent played it yet so I cant say if its shit like arkham shit.
The aesthetics of Arkam Knight are sooo nice, the way Batman's cape flys to the side when he's walking because of the wind, it's those small details that bring the game to life
You know with the Batmobile always coming in instantly after you call it I liked to imagine it was like a dog/cat that was always slowly following behind him waiting to get called lol
If you can SEE it from afar and press the call button, you can see it ride its way to you. It was really cool how it didn't just spawn behind you or... this new crap where a whole ass vehicle materializes itself into existence in front of you and they chalk it up to "aLiEn/QuAnTuM tEcHnOlOgY" or "HigHly aDvAnCeD StEaLtH SHrOuD tEcH".. gtfo just let me see the vehicle come from behind a corner or something at least 😂
God the batmobile was great in Arkham Knight. I know some people thought the missions with it were repetitive/annoying, but the traversal with it was so much fun
What I liked at the Batmobile the most was the challenges with batmobiles 😄 I like racing games too and also being a big Batman fan. It was like a Win / Win for me.
Big difference between the two games for me is every time I called the bay mobile there was always a little bit of action wondering where it would come from, and then boom you’re in it. With the bay cycles their animations aren’t dynamic and it feels AWFUL even thinking of driving the thing because it’s so slow and clunky
@@LusioEcarts me too, i loved doing anything in the batmobile, especially gunning it and shooting out at top speed straight into a glide. It might be my absolute favorite traversal in a game (except Spider-Man of course lol)
what’s funny is Gotham Knights had a similar if not longer development period than Arkham Knight as well. Still blows me away to this day that Arkham Knight was made in 2015
Been that way for years. "Games as entertainment" is running strong on the dollars of whales and children, but games as an artform is circling extinction regularly.
Even after putting almost 100 hours into Arkham Knight, I'm getting an urge to reinstall the game . Edit: Reinstalled Arkham Knight as well as the Shadow of Mordor games along with it.
@@DiegoTequila At this point, I would give anything to play as Batman specifically made by Rocksteady. I've lost all faith in WB Montreal. Coming from a guy who used to defend Arkham Origins.
Sound Effect department is usually one of the more underappreciated aspect of video games in general. It's not until we heard something off that we start to appreciate SFXs.
Arkham Knight was a once in a lifetime leap in game design, I don't really expect anything to compare. The artists in that game deserve so much credit for it.
It's a little disingenuous to put these two games together as if they should be equal. Game dev is more than just technology as you said. The design of the Arkham games influenced numerous games after it (Like Spiderman and GoW in my opinion). To expect the same from a different company just because it's a Batman game is a little naive.
I'm 101% convinced Gotham Knights was supposed to be a live service game with all those amazing skins locked behind paywalls (or absolutely insane levels of grinding), but the devs backpedaled on it after seeing Avengers crash and burn. It's the only explanation why the skins look so good and there is so much customization options when everything else looks and feels so low effort.
You nailed it, fucking on the head. Too many games trying to join the Fortnite club. It's killing the passion in gaming, even causing communities to be more split than ever before. I'm looking at you cod, Fortnite, halo, battlefield and apex........ I have a bad feeling gears of war 6 is going to join the live service spoon fed crap, I am so sick if it as a mostly multiplayer guy I might just play campaign games or offline games at this point.
It just shows how important art direction is! Even with the most realistic visuals, if you can't capture that proper "feel," it won't matter. And also the reason why certain older video games have held up so well.
Yup! One of the best pieces of advice I ever got from an art teacher was unless accuracy is critical it doesn't need to BE right it needs to look and feel right. Is this how the shadows would really look? How water would really shimmer, or fabric actually fold? Does it look appealing to the eye and not jump out as wrong? Then go with it.
The art style is why to me Halo 3 still looks great, minus character models and facial animations. The art style and details make it look amazing to me still to this day. Even CoD 2 looks amazing too, I actually prefer its visuals to CoD 4 as they feel like they've aged better in a weird way (the original anyway, remaster still looks amazing, and CoD 4 still looks great, but it's a bit drab in sone spots, but maybe that's just me).
What I love the most is how Arkham Knight's Gotham City looks, despite being lit quite pretty well, still manage to feel unique yet still gloomy and gothic. While Gotham Knight's city looks like Detroit at 2 AM.
I like the realism, Gotham basically is Detroit at 2 AM, plus the bike coming out of active camouflage, what a clever way to use the source material to allow players quick access to vehicles
What kills me is Batgirl's momentum whenever she grapples. She stops midair, doesn't matter if she was falling or rising, and slowly reaches her destination. Whereas in Arkham Knight your momentum never stops, so you keep falling and you also reach you grapple point fast af.
well, the whole physics of the hook is fucked up. NOtice how Batman always hooks on point higher than him, speeds upwards and then soars. Meanwhile Batgirls hook graples anywhere and it doesnt matter if she is higher o the anchor, she just goes to the hook. That is just common sense, not even development related.
@@bebehillz it's call admiration for the time they put into it, 600 different animations, G.K Robin cape clips through his cock. Disrespectful to dismiss and groups work, maybe you should give it a try and see how hard it is. Your comments are the only throwaway, recreational hate without any based comeback.
@@HtBCutman it's not about being broken, bugs are repairable. These things are design problems, they fucked with design not production while Arkham Knight fucked up the production but was damn well designed
Gotham Knights sucked....for the technology available. Plain and simple, no need to be nice. But that Bat-Man was developped by Rocksteady only means that they're more competent than these bozoes who did Knights.
@@mcentepede WB Montreal sadly has had a very rocky Batman path. Origins was also very iffy, but Knights looks like a live service changed to single player, as someone else said. I hope it was at least passable and does well enough to get more Batfamily games later down, and done the best possible way.
@@mcentepede the story just keeps repeating, team does amazing makes owner rich. rich owner makes a bad decision that the team disagrees with, rich man fire them all because they wont brown nose for him. business fails with new team
Arkham Knight is one of the Best superhero games EVER. Combat, missions, content, sound design and even DLC packs are incredible. It's one of the only games I have over 100% complete and still haven't finished all the missions and challenges years later. If it were released again with a little modern polish it would be worth every penny. The only thing missing is patrolling the city as the "others". One of my goats of gaming for sure
Yep, they tripped over trying to put on their spandex, hit their head, fell down the stairs and broke their neck... or am I being too harsh?? Such a disappointing release whichever way you look at it.
Just like the original Gears of War trilogy vs. what came after. Just like Mass Effect 1 & 2 vs what came after. Just like Warcraft 3 vs. Reforged. The new generation of AAA game devs can't do what the old could. Why could that be?
Batman: “if you kill a killer, the amount of killers stays the same” Also Batman: *runs over 13 pedestrians and two police cars to permanently paralyze a tax dodger*
I’ll explain the mentality of Batman. He fears if he kills someone like the joker, then where does he stop? Does catwoman deserve to die because she steals? Where do you draw the line? Batman fears that if he kills, he will then keep killing every criminal. Ultimately becoming a mass murderer. And just to clarify, you understand he is psychologically messed up right? This is a grown man who dresses up as a rodent and beats people up at night.. he’s knows he’s mentally unwell so he doesn’t want to become a killer.
you would think gotham knights was thhe old one. Not to mention I have literally never heard of this game at all until this video popped up on my recommendations
I just bought the remasters of the arkham trilogy as I never played them. About 4 hours into asylum. 1st thing I noted. The graphics. God those graphics are sublime. Even now. 2nd. The combat is in fact not shallow and spammy like I wrongly assumed. 3rd...the ultra dark tone. I love it. Its like a superhero horror flick. 4 the gameplay. Fantastic!!! The scarecrow segment made my jaw hit the floor. I love it.
@ShaneDehPain thanks x. Cant wait to play Arkham city. Interestingly this trilogy of games seems to mirror Nolans Batman trilogy in that Asylum is like Begins, a solid and amazing 1st game. City is considered the gem ala the dark knight, whilst Arkham knight seems to be accepted in the same vein as the dark knight rises, slightly weaker yet still great.
I did the same thing and got all 3 on sale a month ago. I finished the story for all of them it was incredible how good those games are. each of them is different and add something unique to the table. Asylum had fantastic atmosphere for example.
@@markwalch6065 Arkham Knight story and some boss battles may not be considered as good as the rest of the saga, but everything else I gotta admit is stunningly beautiful, immersive and amazing. And I'm far from being an Arkham Knight fan
Played Arkham Knight for the first time a few months ago and was absolutely shocked that it was a game that came out in 2015. The atmosphere, aesthetics, graphics, everything was absolutely gorgeous to look at and play in
I will say that the authors of the story loved Batman. The cutscenes at the Belfry are the best depiction of the three Robins interacting in any adaptation I've seen (outside of the original animated series), and Barbara felt wonderful as well. It's the gameplay that was bad.
The guy who designed batman's cape wrote a book about how he designed it such that it simulated cloth in real time, the challenge was that machines at that time would take few minutes to render one frame for a real cloth simulation, what technique he used that made it possible to put it into the game.
Like, Batman has this cool scene where the car drives into the scene and he hops into it as it's still moving and then Batgirl's motorcycle just materializes from nothing
@@teeth_denier The roar when it appears is on a different level of epic. They really put a lot of effort into making Batman seem as badass as possible in Arkham Knight
@@MrTheDonMagicOne I play Gotham knights now at max graphics(highest) and ray tracint on 1440p FSR 2.0 on mym onster pc RYZEN 7 1700 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS andi can confirm form my experience than gotham knights graphics at max settings 1440p with ray tracing are 10 times better than Arkham knight. We see it from the system rerquirements that are much higher than any2 015 game like it was then. I had gtx 970 and core i5 2500k in 2015 and now i can confirim that with my ryzen 1700 and rx 6700xt all games has 100 times better graphics especialy those that support ray tracing. see my gotham knights videos here th-cam.com/video/vZHYkKy3neE/w-d-xo.html
@@gabe2135 I disagree with that statement. People kicked up a fuss with the fact that I’m Arkham Knight you didn’t use the Batmobile enough. So rocksteady Decided to listen to fans by implementing more Batmobile ‘action.’ In response to that fans kicked up saying that there’s TO MUCH time spent in the Batmobile. So you can’t win🤣
Never realized how bad the grappling was in gk. You literally stop mid air and then go, whereas in arkham you actually keep momentum. How did this happen. 😭
Different devs guys they aren’t rocksteady Arkham knight was made by them, so the grapple gun may feel different it’s not a 1 to 1 But the Arkham games are more preferable to Gotham knights
Arkham Knight still has one of the best open-world traversal and movement systems ever created. It was so much fun grappling and gliding around Gotham, checking out the city and swooping into a target you were finding. Rocksteady really can't be beat.
Batmobile was awesome for me as a well. Nothing beats gliding, but the batmobile was still great. If they only didn't use it so much for solving puzzles and "boss battles". The latter was challenging, but they overdid it.
It was enjoyable, but I wouldn't say one of the best. Not after playing games like Prototype 2, Spiderman PS4 and Sunset Overdrive. Especially Sunset Overdrive
The boost make batmobile even faster, and the batcycle… wait it doesn’t have it… In Gotham Knight I mean, the batcycle got some in Dark Knight rises movie. Maybe Catwoman burn 🔥 all the boost ? 🤣
It’s not just the graphics, it’s everything. The way the camera distorts the FOV and shakes when grappling to convey speed. The weight of every movement Batman makes is tangible and smooth as hell. His cape moves so gracefully as well. Gotham Knights not only lacks in the basics of textures and design but also its effects and animations are just sub par, especially for a game released in 2022.
Kinda crazy to me Bc I played it for the first time only 2 years ago I just wanted to mess around as batman on game pass and I found my favorite solo game of all time. Can’t believe it was hated on
@The batman and the clown I’m not the most hardcore gamer so I just really enjoyed how they really made you feel like you were the Bats grappling around Gotham and I enjoyed the combat style. But now that you say that I do wish there were more bosses or more smaller storylines with different side characters
I remember so many people sacked off Arkham Knight when it first came out, but I'm replaying it again at the moment, and it really is an amazing game, yeah the batmobile may be overused but god damn it handles in a fun, challenging way, smooth battle mode, looks like a beast, the game overall has this wonderful gritty, dirty look, and the story ties off so many threads from the Arkham universe and had the balls to unmask Batman. Just completed the main game now and am finishing off all the Most Wanted crimes to activate Knightfall and I have thoroughly enjoyed what must be my 7th (maybe 8th) playthrough.
If you'd never seen these two games before and were told that they were 7 years apart, you would instantly think Arkham Knight was the newer game. That's how good it is even 7 years later.
@@Bocchi-the-Rock_ I never said it was better game overall, I just said it was better looking. I never said anything about how the biking spawning out of nowhere was worse, or anything like that. Besides Gotham Knights just sucks anyways
@@Bocchi-the-Rock_ No mate, I never exclusively talked about graphics. And I don't even understand what you're saying. Arkham Knight has better graphics, but even if Gotham Knights had better graphics (which it should have considering it's release date was 7 years after Arkham Knight), it would still be the inferior game by a country mile (which it shouldn't be considering it was released 7 years after Arkham Knight). Arkham Knight is superior to Gotham Knights in every way, and that's a terrible thing, considering Gotham Knights was released *7 years* after Arkham Knight.
What really shows it is the grappling hook. In Gotham its just a dead stop then zoom in to where you aimed. But in in Arkham? There's a beautiful motion to it all. You never stop, you keep moving, and There's weight to it. The momentum never truly stops, when you shoot the hook batman is still falling until the mechanism kicks in then yeets his ass to the hook. Its clear when passion is present, and when a plank of wood tripped on a keyboard and shat out a game.
Gotham Knights only looks bad in comparison. If we hadn't gotten the Arkham games, then people would like it a lot better I'm sure. After I got past the mindset of comparing it to Arkham, I realized the game is actually decent, and I'm enjoying my time playing it.
@@jeremyorth5138 keep enjoying your 70$ turd of a game running at 30 fps while looking like a ps3 game while the real men go back to the arkham and insomniac games superhero games
I'm very impressed at Batman's ability to literally ignore g-forces that would otherwise disconnect a man's shoulder from it's socket at the speeds he stops himself and instantly is yanked in another direction, one handed by his grapple. Physics in a video game, based on a comic book, is never a viable argument because it'll always ignore them.
@@macdaddymario It is absolutely a viable argument. You could always argue that his grappling hook and/or suit has some mechanism of shock absorbtion. Also, this immunity to shoulder dislocation doesn't break immersion. It's a background issue. Batgirl's ability to pause gravity is front and center with no clear explanation. It's like seeing someone burn alive in an exploding car and then seeing them alive 10 seconds later without a scratch. There has to be an explanation for something that so clearly defies logic.
@@macdaddymario There's "kinda weird that his arms aren't being fucked up by what he's doing" and there's "that girl is literally defying gravity" One of those things is much less obvious than the other and infinitely less immersion breaking.
Oh y'all are praising those now, I do remember before that people wouldn't stop complaining about the Batmobile. Although I guess now that there's another game to hate on you edgy little hipsters have to hate on something huh.
@@Plsrateeight " Y'all are praising those now you edgy little hipsters " Only one comment, it does not define everyone And it was praising the moments with no hate whatsoever, please get checked out.
I think the idea is you aren't really "calling" the bike, you're just deactivating its optical camoflage to reveal it next to you. The effect is pretty indistinguishable from just having the bike teleport in, though (which is literally what the game is doing). And it's certainly not as badass as calling the Batmobile and then after a few seconds' delay hearing the roar of the engine and seeing it come flying around the corner
Wait, that effect *isn't* supposed to look like someone dying in fortnite??? I. Huh... I mean, I feel like there are a lot of ways you could convey that it's coming out of camouflage, first one that comes to mind is that thing that marvel movies especially do with big ships having tons of little cameras or mirrors on them, if you had a moment to watch as it kind of "shimmered" into your view that would be genuinely sick, watching as this nondescript patch of environment is revealed to be hiding a vehicle, but instead we got.. That.
Destruction mechanics of Arkham Knight is so damn underrated imo. The mayhem you can cause with the Batmobile is crazy and it is just so satisfying to ram thugs' cars and send them flying lol
@@digitaldood9347 I'm not a language expert but I dont think you have to quote yourself when you are saying something you have said in the past, except for scientific papers.
@@Legendaryium But he's just speaking normally, nothing is out of line. He's not "quoting" himself like he's shakespere, he's just saying that he LITERALLY said what he was putting in quotations. What else would he say? "In the past I said "This game is 10 years ahead""? It seems like there are technicalities being dragged into places they seem to belong, but don't actually
You see the love that they put in Batman Arkham city. It doesnt matter what year they make it in. Its the passion by the devs for the franchise that counts.
*Arkham City Arkham Knight is the mediocre third entry that ends an amazing franchise. Think of Kung Fu Panda or The Original Star Wars Trilogy. The first part builds anticipation, the second pulls off such high highs that the third cannot even touch it.
GTA 4 had a pretty cool physics engine. The suspension made most cars actually feel heavy and different to drive. I think it was too complicated for the average man to pick up and play though so I think that's why it became more arcadey in GTA5. Still an underrated feature/detail.
Many games that aren’t racing games have suspension for their vehicles, but it depends on which game and which vehicles. The batmobile having suspension is kinda surprising
The crazy thing about the Batmobile and Batcycle is that they're actually going at similar speeds. The dev team didn't do a great job with the game's physics though and settled for adding speed lines.
I mean on their defense why would they make possible to destroy civilians cars with the Batcycle? In Arkham Knight it was ok to crash them because most were empty or had criminals in them
Don't defend them. Didn't you see how the bike just stopped on a dime after colliding with that vehicle? She was doing a wheelie too, and everyone knows in games that means that car is now a ramp. She should have ramped over that car and yes, damaged it. The car doesn't have to explode, but something needs to happen.s
The games ass why go for a bit of an RPG setup it made no sense oh the stealth is so wack don't get me started but fr somehow the batmobile still feels faster then the batcycle
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одно с топовой картинкой второе без картинки но с топ гимплем
Could you do GTA 5 vs cyberpunk 2077
So.....what mod do you have on Gotham knights because in mine the capes DOES NOT MOVE WHILE ON THE BAT BIKE SO......EVEN LAMER
Nobody's talking about how good the sound design in Arkham Knight is. The Batmobile, grappling hook, cape and even just the walk sound great.
Not good. IMPECCABLE.
Then they should make a game for the blind then
It's almost always talked about in the comments of Arkham Knight vids, tf r u talkin about
@@NewHandleWhoDeez nah
@@NewHandleWhoDeez clearly not
We've reached the point where technology isn't the bottleneck anymore, its the creativity of the devs.
it always has been
Also money and time is a big factor
Not about creativity, it’s the difference between when a game is made out of love for the fans and when a game is only made to generate money.
@@LawysArt Gotham Knights is objectively worse than Knight but lets not revise history and act like Rocksteady wasnt sick and tired of making Batman Arkham games. It shows that Knight is the weakest Rocksteady game especially in terms of writing (deliberately not bringing back Paul Dini) and boss battles. They wanted to wash their hands of the series because continuing one series for 6 years would get tiring
@@joseph2000117 From my point of view this is still the best episode.
I was always impressed with how the Arkham games handled Batman's cape. How it reacts to rain or snow, the way the cloth physics gives it realistic weight, and the fact that whenever you're gliding you can see small cuts in the cape. I'm still impressed even if Arkham Knight came out 7 years ago. And then you look at Batgirl's paper towel cape.
Having more cuts in the cape as the games go on is such a neat feature that I didn't notice until I had beaten and replayed them. It's super cool to see
They worked on that cape for two years
@@omega5040 I believe it was one person too. Whoever they are I hope they have that on their LinkedIn profile
@@omega5040 it was in arkham asylum, just Googled it
They had a whole separate design team for his cape lol
7 years to carefully figure out whats the best in the game in order to not have any of that in your new game. What a team of legends.
You could apply that to the entire AAA videogame industry as a whole. The 2000's and early 2010's saw game companies finally figure out how to make the best games they possibly could, all so they could take those lessons and avoid doing anything like that ever again.
If its anything like our company, we went woke and many of our best people left and those that were hired on were heavy DEI where it mattered more than you were a Mexican lesbian than actually best qualified.
I still can't believe Arkham Knight was developed in Unreal Engine 3, it's so damn impressive.
Imagine if we get a sequel to the game , this time in Unreal Engine 5 ❤️😍
@@JoshuaG How about no, they were already phoning it in with the 4th game, let's just let sleeping dogs lie.
@@stevenclark5173 ??? im not talking about sleeping dogs bro 😳
@@JoshuaG you are joking, correct?
@@JoshuaG no.
What I like the most about modern games is that graphics are barely changing from title to title but system requirements only get higher
Graphics are absolutely changing. You’re just not noticing it.
@@TheAluvisify They aren't...the so called next-gen is a joke,only now we're getting games announced that look a bit advanced graphic wise but so far the games look the same as what we had in the past gen.
Yes because idiot devs are focusing on performance...which is why this gen is a joke.
@@TheAluvisify so what's the point then ?
@@TheAluvisifytell that to almost ten year old red dead redemption 2 and other games
The thing about Arkham that really impressed me the most was the point when you notice that the situation of clothing of batman from start was completely fine but after big missions its torn, tattered, bruised and messed up when you come to ending. It goes to know how much work was put in narrative building. These little things are inspiring and makes you feel the pain Batman has gone through for the whole night.
I hate when I bruise my clothes
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@@Zeus.thunder it is, when it depicts the idea of hard night for batman through visual means. You can look at the state of the batsuit to understand that he has had a tough night. It doesn't go from fine to worse in a single go but rather it happens gradually overtime you do main missions.
The longest night ever.
Sometimes the Batmobile spawns far away from you where you summon it and the result is hearing it roar from very far away in an echoey effect, I don't think it's intentional but that very specific and tiny moment makes Arkham Knight one of the greatest
It is intentional and its awesome. Theres nothing like hearing the batmobile howling in the distance and then you see thugs running down the street away from something, and there is the massive batmobile tank chasing after them like a movie monster, only to swerve to a halt in front of you like a loyal dog. A true masterpiece.
Also the AI of it is great, it never buged in my game
@@owenleal this comment made me want to replay the game lmao
It happens more and more lately on my old Xbox One and it just adds to the experience
It's done to avoid literally the problem we see with the new game.
The car always spawn just outside of your view so its not just magically appearing in front of you when though thats exactly what is happening.
The witcher 3 does the same thing with the horse, it will spawn just slightly out of view and come running up to you.
Even GTA would try spawn your personal cars where ever the player wasn't looking
It seems these days the devs don't care enough to do that anymore
The Batman Arkham series were on another level. It's so complete. I'm glad they made them
I wish we could get more
@@Iam123-i5j me too bro
I agree, I am blessed to still have the original still left to experience but hawt damn the original Arkham city/Knight made my highschool years so fun. I miss those days of having a FINISHED game on day 1 😭🤦🏽♂️🔥
Should’ve made an Arkham origins remastered rather than this garbage😂
Agreed I wish they put out an upgrade patch for next gen consoles
Reminds me of what somebody said about Dead Space: the reason a 14 year old game can old up relatively well is due to art direction, appropriate visual obscurity, and effects.
Usually I would just flatout agree, but this video mostly showcase graphical fidelity and the new game still lost.
Same thing with TF2, Minecraft, Borderlands 2 and Old School Runescape. Timeless Design will always beat out fancy "New" graphical features.
Assasins Creed 1 also looks good even today for being a game of 2007-2008
The technology was more limited but the artists were incredible. It's kind of like how the original Jurassic Park movie has such incredible CGI for the 90's. The technology was very primitive but the guys who made it were industry veterans with decades of experience, they used all that knowledge and experience and then applied it to the new CGI technology. For example the guy that oversaw the animations had never done computer animations before but he was one of the best stop motion animators in the world. As such he knew exactly how things should move realistically.
Same thing with Okami and Wind Waker
Crazy how Arkham Knight had no actual civilians in its city, yet somehow it still looked far more alive than Gotham knights
Lol probably because of the rioters and tanks, there were more of those than civilians in GK. Also the rain was beautiful.
nostalgia
@@theartillery9724in the game all the city was evacuated for that reason, so makes sense
@@cycada2405 what I meant was compared to the amount of civs in GK, there are more rioters and militia roaming the streets in AK.
The action happended in one night
It’s not even the visual aspect of it, when you walk as Batman, your footsteps have so much weight and the noise they make when you walk just exudes how much power he has as a character, such a cool little feature there
He's much beefier than Batgirl though, it only makes sense
I mean that’s just a poor design choice in between devs. But i agree it does make a difference though. The grappling animations seem pretty identical just in Knighhts it’s not as polished to not show the jarring
Transition/in between motions as shown in the Arkham series.
But past that you’d think folks(devs and producers)! would see a good idea and great execution and think to just repeat and replicate those results.
@@MrSquishy0 It's not about physical mass (both of these are just 3d shapes moving forward slowly), It's about the details. In Arkham Knight the camera dynamically moves with the subject (batman), bobbing with each step, adding emphasis to each footsteps. The animations are long, flowing, and seamless and the sound design also imparts more details that immerse you further; loud footsteps with multiple different sound effects that trigger, so each footfall sounds unique and close to what we experience in real life, also varied depending on the surface he makes contact with.
Compare it to Batgirl who has a short, stiff walking animations with no variation or other visual flourishes, so you can clearly see the animation loops. The camera is fixed and doesn't emphasise anything, and the sound effects are muted and samey, you can hear the repetition. Hell even look at the pedestrian to the side, he doesn't even have shadows.
Just in that one clip there's a WORLD of difference between the level of care that the Arkham Knight devs took to create an immersive, realistic world, and the Gotham Knights devs who I personally believe just did the bare minimum to meet their contractual obligations and get the game out on time.
I just want to add that let's not forget that Arkham Knight had an absolutely terrible launch too. Performance issues across the board crippling the game's success that couldn't be addressed in a timely manner beacause they were dealing with their own pressures to release the game, but under rough edges you see a project filled with love and care. Nowadays, big open world games like this are formulaic as ever and created to tick boxes instead of providing an immersive experience.
We're going backwards
Agreed. The animations are much better in Arkham Knight
No one's said it yet but the sound design in Arkham Knight is just impeccable as well. When you soar the sky and fold/unfold the wings, it really sounds like a bat fluttering around.
Also don't forget how good the batmobiles engine and weapons sound. It really feels and sounds like you're in a hot rod tank.
@@Sasquatch33 one thing i hate in arkham is that they use batmobile a lot and boss fight were just not as good as before. but neverthless, it was still a great game.
Somene actually said this 8 months ago on the same video lol
@@curious_one_v2 Cool, I'm not scrolling through 8 months of comments.
@@MbappeKing70that’s a fair criticism
My old Xbox 360 is long dead, but my 9 year old son started playing Arkham Knight on game pass...he loved it so i re- bought the entire trilogy on Series X. So while most 9 year olds are playing Roblox and Fortnight my boy is about to complete the entirety of the Batman Arkham trilogy....raise 'em right gentlemen...raise 'em right.
Good man
It’s crazy how much technology advances in 7 years. Still the old game with the bat girl is holding up ok.
@@DanRemdor r/whooosh
@@DanRemdor r/whooosh
@@DanRemdor we know. We’re just making fun of the new game since Arkham knight looks way more fun.
@@DanRemdor r/whooosh
@@DanRemdor bruh just got woooshed
Ra really had a point about theatrics. Like that Batmobile vs bike entrance. Having it roar in the distance and spawn just behind you instead of just appearing in front of you makes all the difference.
True but this is missing context. In Knights the city is fully populated, its business as usual. So they have to be stealthy, as the cops are also after you. So invisible bike makes sense. In Knight the entire map is evacuated by civilians so batman doesn't have to be as subtle if he doesn't want to be.
@@Krackerjax my guy trying to defend a shit game
@@Krackerjax Sure, but I feel like a different effect and some distortion would go a long way to make that invisible bike thing more realistic since as it stands rn, it looks bland. Could've arrived from the back a little, with small and subtle distortion like when the Helicarrier cloaks or any "invisible" effects appearing before uncloaking in front of you.
@@Krackerjax Cuz rn, that bike looks invisible and intangible, though we know it should only be invisible, but the bike is there.
@@Krackerjax EVEN WITH THE CONTEXT, they picked the CHEAPEST decloak visual effect they can find.
Like that kind of special effects are things you see on a cartoony game like Overwatch, and OW is already a cheaply, rushed game on development.
If you're still not convince that Gotham Knights is like a high school project compared to Batman Arkham Knight, then you just have no soul
Friendly reminder that not only did Arkham Knight come out in 2015 like everyone else is mentioning, it was also made on the archaic Unreal Engine 3, which makes it even more astronomically impressive
@Dan Cevidanes I don't think it would do much the engine they used was heavily modified and it's about art direction more than the engine
call me conspiranoic but nowadays reflections and shadows seem to be deliberate shit just to push the unnecesary raytracing on all games
@@abe191089 I've noticed that too.
I loved Unreal Engine 3. It was a prominent staple of the 7th generation of gaming, and so many games were powered by it. Not all of them looked good, but those that did were able to show off some really awesome environments, lighting, character designs and particle effects.
And yet it wasn't impressive at the time, it was the butt of the joke, much like AC Unity because no one had the best GPUs of their times.
Batman Arkham knight: Badass
Gotham Knights: *Batass*
U talking about Barbara’s cake?💀
@@Morbius-Tension What does cake mean?
@@BlackSmith6969 her backside my pure hearted friend
@@BlackSmith6969 Ass
Arkham Knight was truly something special. It still looks absolutely incredible seven years later (seven years?! The time flies). The technical aspects, the art design, the atmosphere, the weather, the effects, the animations, EVERYTHING just looks SO GOOD and is complimented by top notch, ridiculously punchy and crisp sound design. It's just so... satisfying to play or even just watch.
And then you have Gotham Knights which looks like a mod for Saints Row IV.
“Time waits for no one” -TGWLTT
Yet yall were clowning it when it came out
@@TheGamingAdonis826 it came out unplayable and broken as shit, so yeah of course we are going to clown it
@@Battlefiel97 on PC maybe, but on consoles it was smooth like butter, so that’s not really fair
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It's mind boggling how Arkham Knight still looks insanely good. It's just timeless. I bet if it was released in 2023 noone would say it's graphics are outdated
Arkham Knight's textures and atmosphere carry it hard, just like how Arkham Asylum back in 2009 looked pretty damn good despite the models being pretty lackluster. These games textures are solid as hell and the lightning is so good
Also the fact that it can run on a business laptop of 1.3 kg with 1080p settings.
Like, I wonder if its the gaming companies fault to pay less compared to others and hire bad programmers nowadays.
Like RDR2 has the exceptional graphics and yet it can reach 25 FPS in business laptops with NVidia MX350 (really good optimization from Rockstar). This then saddens me how games like God Of War (not talking about Ragnarok) cannot be played with 30FPS stable 1080p in business laptops, like what is the excuse?
One of the best looking arkham things are the computer generated trailers like a 10 year old arkham trailer looks better than most new trailers
Also the deadshot reveal trailer looks like a live action movie basically but its computer generated
arkham knight was 100% ahead of its time
The Arkham games were so far ahead of their time and made with so much love that it's almost unreal
Haha, unreal
@@trollcrafter1800 heyo!
-engine
It flopped hard lol, also had one of the worst PC realeases. Was a classic moneygrab
@@sensaiko he's talking about the whole series not the last entry
I never realized you could hear the weight behind Bruce’s footsteps in Arkham knight, really nice touch
What’s amazing is that in Arkham Knight, the Batmobile literally just stays where you leave it. It doesn’t despawn unless you’re across the map from it. And usually if you’re within 200 metres of it, it’ll actually drive to you when you call it, instead of just appearing
Hey postdeath did you get your reward? What was it?
@@kenkaneki810 oh yeah bro, I got a whole lotta scammed 😂
@@snwlvl634 Don't lie bro we know you got billions lol
@Vivid Lucidity lol this guy
Stop flaming the batcyle of all things. It optical camouflage thats why it just appears and disappears. If you did have to call it, it would run over people like in arkham knight where the thugs would get electrocuted
I think my favorite thing about the Arkham series was that every action felt like it had weight to it. Like when you punch a bad guy all the focus went into to that punch. I find games these days really miss that mark.
Yeah especially afterwards when there’s one enemy left it zooms in on that final punch you can really feel the weight
This is so right, i think arkham games have the best hand to hand combat in all gaming
There was absolutely no weight during that Black joker biss fight in arkham knight. In fact, Arkham knight is worse than city
To be fair, some of those Arkham games were generational. Can't really compare them with any normal game if you want to talk about the state of gaming these days vs that era. For example, I find God Of War's combat mechanics just as satisfying.
Even the “bad” Arkham games are god tier. I’m tempted to go play some 😂
It's crazy how even the grappling is better in Arkham knight, you can see there is some weight to batman whenever he grapples onto something, whereas in Gotham Knights you lose all sense of momentum and just go straight to where you grappled onto
Looking at this footage of Batgirl zipping around in Gotham, it's even worse considering that Batgirl in the Arkham DLC has weight to her and is just animated so much better.
You gotta remember Batman and batgirl are two different people Batman is built different batgirl is building different
@@starplayer2066 Yeah but in the DLC for Arkham night batgirl was was the same size but the way animation for the grappling is in the newer game just isn't as smooth looking
@@isaiahcullen1980 because batgirl is using a different utility from what batman used
@@lezty I'm talking about the DLC for bad girl in arkham knight is smoother than bad girl in the newer game. I'm not even talking about batman
"Perhaps i treated you too harshly"
You forgot to show how house corners gets smashed to pieces when the batmobile hits them. I think that was great, it doesn't just show the power of the batmobile but also doesn't slows down your driving if you take a corner wrong.
That's so true when I 1st played the game and I took a s***** corner and I smashed through the house I felt like a f****** bad a**
@@connermiller7291 Are you seriously censoring yourself?
cringe.
@@kiddhkane TH-cam is starting to shadowban comments that curse, it’s likely that without censorship we couldn’t see that comment
@@kiddhkane TH-cam demonization detects that I think.
@@connermiller7291 this mothafucka really censored himself…
Wow it's crazy how many improvements they can make in 7 years. The graphics, sound design, collision, and overall ambiance improved so much in Arkham Knight. Can't believe it's already been 7 years since Gotham Knights came out... time flies!
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Umm..you are joking right?
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@@M_k-zi3tn Of course they are
0:29 that burnout effect is 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 🤌
As many of you that may dislike the batmobile, you have to admit that the way they developed its summon is seamlessly impeccable.
oh yeah that was totally badass, the straight driving sections were epic too.
how it would just obliterate cars and send people flying. too bad 60% of the game consisted of tank fights against drones.
I think Cloaking tech and the idea that the Batcycle is always around is more badass and makes more sense when taken into account that a tween can remove your Bat-tires then a grown man should too then the Batmobile is useless but I loved how the Batmobile just comes to you lol And the Thugs checking out the Batmobile is harlious
@@cameronphares2482 especially the mission where we had to destroy all those heavy tanks with the 90mm ammo
It made you feel like you you were playing a Batman movie with how it seemingly comes out of nowhere
@@cameronphares2482 Did you know that’s actually only 28% for just the story? Still far too much, but I just wanted to be a smartass, sorry :D
The Batmobile in Arkham knight is simply the pinnacle of driving in an action game. Never gets old driving that thing.
In that case rocksteady did it for the first time as well, driving in a game that is. It was surprisingly awesome.
I adore Arkham Knights sound design. The noise the cape produces as it flutters in the wind is so crisp.
arkham series stands out as one of the best sound designing. my favourite gliding sound was AC's also combat sounds.
then comes AO, the electric shock globes really sounds so freakin amazing.
then the best of all AK. from destroying the last tank, glide sound after release of grapnel boost, and diving and gliding upwards. the sounds that cape makes it so satisfying to hear. not to mention batmobile's afterburner, eject, battle mode sounds. so fantastic.
i still love arkham series.
PS: AA is my least favorite. the only thing i love about it is the environment, music & superbatclaw.
@@RaptorRoyaleW bro
I remember the first game that really impressed me with its sound design was the original Mass Effect. It was the first game I remember running around in just to hear the variations in the footstep sounds based on the material you were walking on.
Yea I remember AC sounds really gas
Graphics and sounds can be remastered your looking at it in correctly overall its the same game Ark-ham Knights is way better both in my opinion graphically and game-play wise, the other game is garbage and a waist of money.
I love how it ended with the water comparison, just in case you still had any doubts 😂
Tbf both water engines look pretty common.
@@handgun559 the first was a trash mesh overlay, the actual had multiple levels of physics.
@@handgun559 do you have functional eyes? How did you even type this comment?
Gosh I wonder what ideological movement has happened in the last decade that’s permeated into all aspects of entertainment that may have something to do with the massive decrease in quality
EDIT: feminism has been around longer than a decade you morons
@@defaultname7685 no. Fuck you. We need to oust people like you from our communities. You're an actively xenophobic shit who no one should give the time of day to.
If you're on the fence; you are a bad person. Having minority representation shouldn't offend you, buddy.
Now that you see it in a side by side comparison, you truly realize just by how much Arkham Knight was ahead of its time
Edit: A lot of you are saying it was not 'ahead of its time' if you compare to good games from that era and I agree, I did not mean it was *literally* 'ahead of its time'. It's just that I was really impressed by it
Not "ahead of it's time" that's literally impossible. Just a really good game, the technology existed obviously. It's not ahead of it's time.
@@Shiny101 jeez bro you don't have to be literal about everything
@@Shiny101 Ever heard of expressions? Lmao
@@ChemyNoSurfea just because devs now are lazy and realize people will buy just about anything with a popular character in it doesnt make an old game ahead of its time
Arkham Knight was shit on release. Everyone knows this. I dont get how you mfers forget this was literally unplayable on PC for MONTHS.
Arkham Knight was shit and still is.
Idk about the new game, havent played it yet so I cant say if its shit like arkham shit.
The aesthetics of Arkam Knight are sooo nice, the way Batman's cape flys to the side when he's walking because of the wind, it's those small details that bring the game to life
You know with the Batmobile always coming in instantly after you call it I liked to imagine it was like a dog/cat that was always slowly following behind him waiting to get called lol
hahaha I thought I was the only one
That's exactly what it does, you can see it following you in detective mode and you look at the city when you're on a rooftop
If you can SEE it from afar and press the call button, you can see it ride its way to you. It was really cool how it didn't just spawn behind you or... this new crap where a whole ass vehicle materializes itself into existence in front of you and they chalk it up to "aLiEn/QuAnTuM tEcHnOlOgY" or "HigHly aDvAnCeD StEaLtH SHrOuD tEcH".. gtfo just let me see the vehicle come from behind a corner or something at least 😂
@@rootbeermcgee never realized this until now! just launched knight and saw it for myself
@@TheDezembro Fr 😭
God the batmobile was great in Arkham Knight. I know some people thought the missions with it were repetitive/annoying, but the traversal with it was so much fun
What I liked at the Batmobile the most was the challenges with batmobiles 😄 I like racing games too and also being a big Batman fan. It was like a Win / Win for me.
Big difference between the two games for me is every time I called the bay mobile there was always a little bit of action wondering where it would come from, and then boom you’re in it. With the bay cycles their animations aren’t dynamic and it feels AWFUL even thinking of driving the thing because it’s so slow and clunky
@@LusioEcarts me too, i loved doing anything in the batmobile, especially gunning it and shooting out at top speed straight into a glide. It might be my absolute favorite traversal in a game (except Spider-Man of course lol)
@@colbyohanley6058 haven't played the new one, but yeah, the cycle looks like 0 fun
I liked the races and puzzles but the combat and stealth for me was terrible
I like the improvements they made with Arkham Knight. They learned a lot from making Gotham Knights
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what’s funny is Gotham Knights had a similar if not longer development period than Arkham Knight as well. Still blows me away to this day that Arkham Knight was made in 2015
Good thing Marty McFly helped release it back in 2015. Or else that would have sucked just like Gotham Knights does. Dodged a huge bullet.
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Been that way for years. "Games as entertainment" is running strong on the dollars of whales and children, but games as an artform is circling extinction regularly.
I keep coming back to this video for some reason because I keep playing Arkham Knight and it still is blowing me away. Even on my poor, dying PS4.
Even after putting almost 100 hours into Arkham Knight, I'm getting an urge to reinstall the game .
Edit: Reinstalled Arkham Knight as well as the Shadow of Mordor games along with it.
Gotham knights made me appreciate arkham knight.
I put like 315 hours and I still want more. I wish there was a remaster to get all the trophies again.
@@DiegoTequila At this point, I would give anything to play as Batman specifically made by Rocksteady.
I've lost all faith in WB Montreal. Coming from a guy who used to defend Arkham Origins.
hopefully not excited for the tank boss fights
@@ray-tx8yx Arkham Origins was good too, but the Rocksteady ones slaps
I've always loved how intense the sound design of Arkham Knight was. Especially the loud, mechanical noises of the Batmobile.
Top 20 HD games with meaty mechanical noises and the sounds of extreme machinery:-
1.Dead Space series
2.This game
3.Death Stranding
I noticed that Gotham knights has louder rain and thunder sound effects which I like. That’s about it tho
It sound angry as fuck
I much prefer the thundering, crunchy noises of Arkham Knight’s combat to the goofy ahh SFX of Gotham Knights
Sound Effect department is usually one of the more underappreciated aspect of video games in general.
It's not until we heard something off that we start to appreciate SFXs.
Arkham Knight was a once in a lifetime leap in game design, I don't really expect anything to compare. The artists in that game deserve so much credit for it.
Can't wait for Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League, the next ACTUAL RockSteady game
It's a little disingenuous to put these two games together as if they should be equal. Game dev is more than just technology as you said. The design of the Arkham games influenced numerous games after it (Like Spiderman and GoW in my opinion). To expect the same from a different company just because it's a Batman game is a little naive.
Red dead?
I'm sure Suicide Squad will compare.
game design is not the word you're looking for here
At least Gotham Knights has fan service with Batgirl.
I'm 101% convinced Gotham Knights was supposed to be a live service game with all those amazing skins locked behind paywalls (or absolutely insane levels of grinding), but the devs backpedaled on it after seeing Avengers crash and burn. It's the only explanation why the skins look so good and there is so much customization options when everything else looks and feels so low effort.
more than likely correct
That feels correct.
You nailed it, fucking on the head. Too many games trying to join the Fortnite club. It's killing the passion in gaming, even causing communities to be more split than ever before. I'm looking at you cod, Fortnite, halo, battlefield and apex........
I have a bad feeling gears of war 6 is going to join the live service spoon fed crap, I am so sick if it as a mostly multiplayer guy I might just play campaign games or offline games at this point.
@@_e8a not sure if you have kids but I wouldn't let mine be playing arkham
@@_e8a the best games are the ones that can be played for adults and kids
It just shows how important art direction is! Even with the most realistic visuals, if you can't capture that proper "feel," it won't matter. And also the reason why certain older video games have held up so well.
Yup! One of the best pieces of advice I ever got from an art teacher was unless accuracy is critical it doesn't need to BE right it needs to look and feel right. Is this how the shadows would really look? How water would really shimmer, or fabric actually fold? Does it look appealing to the eye and not jump out as wrong? Then go with it.
Yea so much modern games don't have it no more.
Dmc 5, the newer halo games (not counting infinite), and this one too.
The art style is why to me Halo 3 still looks great, minus character models and facial animations. The art style and details make it look amazing to me still to this day. Even CoD 2 looks amazing too, I actually prefer its visuals to CoD 4 as they feel like they've aged better in a weird way (the original anyway, remaster still looks amazing, and CoD 4 still looks great, but it's a bit drab in sone spots, but maybe that's just me).
Art direction has nothing to do with it. Old games dont hold up because they look pretty.
I think it's just a budget difference.
The tone, colors, darkness, occasional lightning and slight rain make such a huge difference in establishing the setting. It really puts you IN Gotham
Are you a IGN employee?
"Really makes you FEEL like Batman"
Really makes you FEEL like Gotham City
God bless this reply section lmao
The assets in the new game just suck ass in general, just look at the design of the buildings in Arkham compared to Gotham Knights.
I guess we owe Gotham Knight an apology now 💀
No a piece of turd will always be a piece of turd
What I love the most is how Arkham Knight's Gotham City looks, despite being lit quite pretty well, still manage to feel unique yet still gloomy and gothic. While Gotham Knight's city looks like Detroit at 2 AM.
To be fair Gotham is definitely closer to Detroit at 2 am
@@nyuan15 let's not offend Gotham now
@@Muxeroth f... the Gotham and Detroit... and USA 🤣🤪🤦♂
True
I like the realism, Gotham basically is Detroit at 2 AM, plus the bike coming out of active camouflage, what a clever way to use the source material to allow players quick access to vehicles
What kills me is Batgirl's momentum whenever she grapples. She stops midair, doesn't matter if she was falling or rising, and slowly reaches her destination. Whereas in Arkham Knight your momentum never stops, so you keep falling and you also reach you grapple point fast af.
Like spiderman swinging In the avengers game and the insomniac one
Just noticed that yeah. They just stop and float in the air before being pulled, weird.
Yeah and Batman’s movement feels more weighted because of that reason unlike Batgirl’s movement in Gotham Knight, adds a bit of realism into that
well, the whole physics of the hook is fucked up. NOtice how Batman always hooks on point higher than him, speeds upwards and then soars. Meanwhile Batgirls hook graples anywhere and it doesnt matter if she is higher o the anchor, she just goes to the hook. That is just common sense, not even development related.
Actually i was about to say the same thing, the momentum breaks, so it does not look good to play
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I love the menacing slow walk Batman does. It just makes him look like a machine determined in its mission. The little things I can't get enough of
connor
Ikr his walk is so badass!!
@1488 Dental I legit thought it was a Halloween mission in a normal life game.
If you like his walk you'd love the terminator lol
Now, play it at 0.5x speed
companies have realized they don't need to try to make a profit anymore
The physics of Batman’s cape alone is insane
LMAO THROW AWAY COMMENT ABOUT BATMAN'S CAPE WINS?!?!?!?
@@bebehillz yk that’s a bot right
@@bebehillz it's call admiration for the time they put into it, 600 different animations, G.K Robin cape clips through his cock. Disrespectful to dismiss and groups work, maybe you should give it a try and see how hard it is. Your comments are the only throwaway, recreational hate without any based comeback.
Yea after the swinging comparison, i was like Arkham knight is better
The sound design is nice
goes to show how much love was really put into the game
😅 it was a Buggy mess on release though😂
@@PitchBlackLaser Seriously. People forgetting the Arkham Knight had to be pulled from Steam it was so broken lol.
@@HtBCutman it's not about being broken, bugs are repairable. These things are design problems, they fucked with design not production while Arkham Knight fucked up the production but was damn well designed
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This is a fucking joke
Since when did rocksteady put love into the arkham games?
You need to keep in mind that Batman was developed by Rocksteady, who are wizards of using Unreal Engine. Extremely talented team!
Gotham Knights sucked....for the technology available. Plain and simple, no need to be nice. But that Bat-Man was developped by Rocksteady only means that they're more competent than these bozoes who did Knights.
@@mcentepede While I could barely understand that, I agree
@@mcentepede WB Montreal sadly has had a very rocky Batman path. Origins was also very iffy, but Knights looks like a live service changed to single player, as someone else said. I hope it was at least passable and does well enough to get more Batfamily games later down, and done the best possible way.
@@mcentepede Yep. I'd say, in this case particularly, there's no need to be nice. It looks ugly.
@@mcentepede the story just keeps repeating, team does amazing makes owner rich. rich owner makes a bad decision that the team disagrees with, rich man fire them all because they wont brown nose for him. business fails with new team
Arkham Knight is one of the Best superhero games EVER. Combat, missions, content, sound design and even DLC packs are incredible. It's one of the only games I have over 100% complete and still haven't finished all the missions and challenges years later. If it were released again with a little modern polish it would be worth every penny. The only thing missing is patrolling the city as the "others". One of my goats of gaming for sure
You know, the irony is it’s a game about wether or not the next generation can live up to Batman’s legacy… I think you see where I’m going with this.
That's a good metaphor!
Yep, they tripped over trying to put on their spandex, hit their head, fell down the stairs and broke their neck... or am I being too harsh?? Such a disappointing release whichever way you look at it.
Just like us and living up to the legacy of our parents.
We will fail too.
Damn good point bruv
Just like the original Gears of War trilogy vs. what came after.
Just like Mass Effect 1 & 2 vs what came after.
Just like Warcraft 3 vs. Reforged.
The new generation of AAA game devs can't do what the old could. Why could that be?
Arkham knight was ahead of its time, rocksteady created masterpieces, something this new WB studio cannot do
Agreed!
Good thing they're making the new Suicide Squad game then.
I still remember Arkham Knight being a broken mess. It might be better now, but it ran like sludge on release, even on beefy rigs at the time.
@@SleepyFen I remember playing it on pc. Lets just say i wasn't having the time of my life.
While I agree with your comment you also have to remember Arkham knights release
Batman: “if you kill a killer, the amount of killers stays the same”
Also Batman: *runs over 13 pedestrians and two police cars to permanently paralyze a tax dodger*
look all the citizens evacuated and the cops were corrupt anyways so its fine
While being a tax dodger himself.
Hey man he gave that guy the easy way out. The feds would've done way worse
Well, that's not right, if he kills two it's one down.
I’ll explain the mentality of Batman.
He fears if he kills someone like the joker, then where does he stop? Does catwoman deserve to die because she steals? Where do you draw the line? Batman fears that if he kills, he will then keep killing every criminal. Ultimately becoming a mass murderer.
And just to clarify, you understand he is psychologically messed up right? This is a grown man who dresses up as a rodent and beats people up at night.. he’s knows he’s mentally unwell so he doesn’t want to become a killer.
you would think gotham knights was thhe old one. Not to mention I have literally never heard of this game at all until this video popped up on my recommendations
I just bought the remasters of the arkham trilogy as I never played them. About 4 hours into asylum. 1st thing I noted. The graphics. God those graphics are sublime. Even now. 2nd. The combat is in fact not shallow and spammy like I wrongly assumed. 3rd...the ultra dark tone. I love it. Its like a superhero horror flick. 4 the gameplay. Fantastic!!! The scarecrow segment made my jaw hit the floor. I love it.
@ShaneDehPain thanks x. Cant wait to play Arkham city. Interestingly this trilogy of games seems to mirror Nolans Batman trilogy in that Asylum is like Begins, a solid and amazing 1st game. City is considered the gem ala the dark knight, whilst Arkham knight seems to be accepted in the same vein as the dark knight rises, slightly weaker yet still great.
scarecrow in that game is great
@@trashpanda9033 I will, eventually X.
I did the same thing and got all 3 on sale a month ago. I finished the story for all of them it was incredible how good those games are. each of them is different and add something unique to the table. Asylum had fantastic atmosphere for example.
@@markwalch6065 Arkham Knight story and some boss battles may not be considered as good as the rest of the saga, but everything else I gotta admit is stunningly beautiful, immersive and amazing. And I'm far from being an Arkham Knight fan
Played Arkham Knight for the first time a few months ago and was absolutely shocked that it was a game that came out in 2015. The atmosphere, aesthetics, graphics, everything was absolutely gorgeous to look at and play in
E o gotham knights de 2022 não ficou nem no mínimo! Nível Arkham😔😔.
You made some very strange videos friend.
Arkham knight was made on unreal 3 the same as asylum which blows my mind
it's not that you were shocked that this game came out in 2015, it's just that you haven't noticed the video game industry is regressing.
@@Aaron-g9b Trueee. That being said, it's crazy how amazing the game looks and works and still getting 90 fps with my mid-to-low-end computer.
The best part about the Gotham Knights release is that it actually made me redownload Arkham Knight for another playthrough 7 years later!
You’re cringe 💀
@@someuniverseguy7062 ok... why?
@@BennyTxD Most likely because you can't get Gotham Knights on PS4 but you can get Arkham Knight.
Literally in the same boat
@@kingcrimson2643 Lmao 😂🤣😂🤣
In Batman you can also break some buildings which is awesome I was shocked it’s a golden game I still replay it sometimes
Man this is such great progress! Look how much the graphics and physics improved in just seven years from Gotham Knights to Arkham Knight!
Finally someone said it out!
Yeah, the improve is magnificent.
😂😂😂
I honestly wasn't sure which one came first. Thanks for clearing it up for me!
@@gaebril131 I can't tell if you're being serious or not...
To be fair, Arkham Knight was insane quality. I argue this can still Rival Spiderman 2 in some aspects.
Wow the developers really applied what they learned from the Gotham knights game to the Batman game, huge improvement!
No man Gothman Knights is like new game. Batman game is old its the other way around ok
@@Kserijaro WHOOSH!!!
@@Kserijaro R/Whoosh
@@efrainamezcua7594 @Jaycue r/Whoosh ... but not for me!
@@Kserijaro R/ woosh
Batman Arkham Knight: Developed by people who love Batman.
Gotham Knights: Developed by people who want money.
Nope they both wanted money😂
Edit: how can my opinion piss half of y’all off like grow up🤣
@@PhoenixPlays669The difference between the two games is that Rocksteady did a great job, but Gotham Knights is really bad!
I will say that the authors of the story loved Batman. The cutscenes at the Belfry are the best depiction of the three Robins interacting in any adaptation I've seen (outside of the original animated series), and Barbara felt wonderful as well.
It's the gameplay that was bad.
@@darkvin3032 that’s your opinion mine is I like both of them
@@PhoenixPlays669 okay then
The sound is i so phenomenal in the Arkham games it's astonoshing!
The guy who designed batman's cape wrote a book about how he designed it such that it simulated cloth in real time, the challenge was that machines at that time would take few minutes to render one frame for a real cloth simulation, what technique he used that made it possible to put it into the game.
Really? What's the name of the book? That sounds really fascinating!
He spent one whole year programming just that cape.
As someone who loves capes in video games. Freakin worth it.
Bethesda take notes. Elder Scrolls 6 needs to have capes in vanilla game.
@@manz7860 Expect elder scrolls to be as disappointing as cyberpunk was. Even then you might still be disappointed
@@caralho5237 I've loved every elder Scrolls and fallout game since morrowind/F3.
I'm sure I will enjoy it.
I died of laughter when you emphasized the vehicle literally materializing out of nowhere
Like, Batman has this cool scene where the car drives into the scene and he hops into it as it's still moving and then Batgirl's motorcycle just materializes from nothing
@@teeth_denier The roar when it appears is on a different level of epic. They really put a lot of effort into making Batman seem as badass as possible in Arkham Knight
Who looked at that and thought it was a good idea lmao 💀
@@nicki322 its a vehicle that goes invisible? Do you really think it just materielizes?
and yet still can't get the game to run at 60fps on current gen, and barely runs stable at 30fps to begin with. They forgot how to optimize.
Wow, graphics really advanced in the 7 years since Gotham Knights! Arkham Knight looks great!
Ah yes the water looks much better
Graphics has developed so much in 7yrs
Got me confused there for a second, I got it tho
@@beegdawg chill
who's going to tell him
The most impressive part is that Gotham Knights was made in Unreal Engine 3!
Gotham Knights looked better than Suicide Squad.
I’m grateful for Gotham Knights for reminding me just how phenomenal Arkham Knight was.
Amen to that.
@@MrTheDonMagicOne I play Gotham knights now at max graphics(highest) and ray tracint on 1440p FSR 2.0 on mym onster pc RYZEN 7 1700 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS andi can confirm form my experience than gotham knights graphics at max settings 1440p with ray tracing are 10 times better than Arkham knight. We see it from the system rerquirements that are much higher than any2 015 game like it was then. I had gtx 970 and core i5 2500k in 2015 and now i can confirim that with my ryzen 1700 and rx 6700xt all games has 100 times better graphics especialy those that support ray tracing. see my gotham knights videos here th-cam.com/video/vZHYkKy3neE/w-d-xo.html
it would've been phenomenal if you didn't spend half the fucking game in that stupidass batmobile.
@@gabe2135 I disagree with that statement. People kicked up a fuss with the fact that I’m Arkham Knight you didn’t use the Batmobile enough. So rocksteady Decided to listen to fans by implementing more Batmobile ‘action.’
In response to that fans kicked up saying that there’s TO MUCH time spent in the Batmobile. So you can’t win🤣
@@MrTheDonMagicOne Not enough ? I use that thing all the time, mostly for combat though.
It's crazy how much the graphics have improved since Gotham Knights
if only that was true 💀
This comment is underrated
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It took me a damn ass min to make sense of what you were saying 💀
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Never realized how bad the grappling was in gk. You literally stop mid air and then go, whereas in arkham you actually keep momentum. How did this happen. 😭
Same with Spidey in the Avengers game.
Different devs guys they aren’t rocksteady Arkham knight was made by them, so the grapple gun may feel different it’s not a 1 to 1
But the Arkham games are more preferable to Gotham knights
@@BloopersINCjr different devs shouldn't mean different physics, batman stories usually take place on planet earth after all
@@ombricshalazar3869 true
Physics has not been invented yet in Gotham knights 🫠🫠
Arkham Knight has one of the best voice acting
Arkham Knight still has one of the best open-world traversal and movement systems ever created. It was so much fun grappling and gliding around Gotham, checking out the city and swooping into a target you were finding. Rocksteady really can't be beat.
Batmobile was awesome for me as a well.
Nothing beats gliding, but the batmobile was still great.
If they only didn't use it so much for solving puzzles and "boss battles".
The latter was challenging, but they overdid it.
It was enjoyable, but I wouldn't say one of the best. Not after playing games like Prototype 2, Spiderman PS4 and Sunset Overdrive. Especially Sunset Overdrive
@@tolu619 well, i said "one of" for a reason. But agreed, Sunset Overdrive takes the cake
Just Cause 2 did it first, though I'd say Gotham is a much more interesting environment to do it in
@@tolu619 Literally came here to be like Yooo what about Sunset Overdrive
The graphics of Arkham knight were just so far ahead of their time. That game was built with attention.
And affection.
& gameplay...oh & AI interactions
@@StuffyMc and erection
I remember it got delayed almost a year from its original release (just like the SS game has currently been) they needed it just perfect.
@@jimmymeridian5174 those were the days weren't they
I love how gravity completely shuts down and Batgirl just momentarily floats in mid-air as you shoot the grapple-gun.
Im gonna be that unoriginal person that says, 295 likes and no comments?
@@war_axe you want a cookie or something?
@@disccovered6392 yes pls
@@war_axe 🍪 here's a BiScUiT
Youre really gonna play a superhero game and complain about unrealistic physics?
in last 3 days i finally played(also finished) Arkham games and even arkham asylum feels so great in 2024 also definitly not look like 2009 game.
I like how Batgirl's motorcycle just gently phases into reality while the Batmobile lets out this angry mechanical roar when you summon it
it basically destroyed everything on its way
@@dwiadishuduri2803 yeah, I wonder if it would run over people. Roaring and all.
Its optical camo but okay
That true😆😆 but its batcycle not batgirls motorcycle
The boost make batmobile even faster, and the batcycle… wait it doesn’t have it… In Gotham Knight I mean, the batcycle got some in Dark Knight rises movie. Maybe Catwoman burn 🔥 all the boost ? 🤣
It’s not just the graphics, it’s everything. The way the camera distorts the FOV and shakes when grappling to convey speed. The weight of every movement Batman makes is tangible and smooth as hell. His cape moves so gracefully as well. Gotham Knights not only lacks in the basics of textures and design but also its effects and animations are just sub par, especially for a game released in 2022.
Exactly it’s missing a shit load of impact
the water animation is horrendous I have to say so
@@Pelelrt 2022 is already in the past.
@@PelelrtGTA VI huh
@@dark_hood7 bruhh, gta VI will come out at 2069
I'm glad people are finally giving Arkham Knight the appreciation it deserves
sometimes it takes shitty new rushed out games to appreciate the old ones
I mean 7 years is an exact amount of time to have nostalgia for anything. Whatch people turn around on Knghts too in a few years
Kinda crazy to me Bc I played it for the first time only 2 years ago I just wanted to mess around as batman on game pass and I found my favorite solo game of all time. Can’t believe it was hated on
@The batman and the clown I’m not the most hardcore gamer so I just really enjoyed how they really made you feel like you were the Bats grappling around Gotham and I enjoyed the combat style. But now that you say that I do wish there were more bosses or more smaller storylines with different side characters
@@DaywalkerNL94 nope
I remember so many people sacked off Arkham Knight when it first came out, but I'm replaying it again at the moment, and it really is an amazing game, yeah the batmobile may be overused but god damn it handles in a fun, challenging way, smooth battle mode, looks like a beast, the game overall has this wonderful gritty, dirty look, and the story ties off so many threads from the Arkham universe and had the balls to unmask Batman. Just completed the main game now and am finishing off all the Most Wanted crimes to activate Knightfall and I have thoroughly enjoyed what must be my 7th (maybe 8th) playthrough.
If you'd never seen these two games before and were told that they were 7 years apart, you would instantly think Arkham Knight was the newer game. That's how good it is even 7 years later.
Believe it or not. I actually did. I had to think for a minute to realize Arkham was older.
I still dont know which game is Arkham Knight. The batman one looks nice tho
@@polsoto Arkham knight is the much better looking one with Batman
@@Bocchi-the-Rock_ I never said it was better game overall, I just said it was better looking. I never said anything about how the biking spawning out of nowhere was worse, or anything like that. Besides Gotham Knights just sucks anyways
@@Bocchi-the-Rock_ No mate, I never exclusively talked about graphics. And I don't even understand what you're saying. Arkham Knight has better graphics, but even if Gotham Knights had better graphics (which it should have considering it's release date was 7 years after Arkham Knight), it would still be the inferior game by a country mile (which it shouldn't be considering it was released 7 years after Arkham Knight).
Arkham Knight is superior to Gotham Knights in every way, and that's a terrible thing, considering Gotham Knights was released *7 years* after Arkham Knight.
What really shows it is the grappling hook.
In Gotham its just a dead stop then zoom in to where you aimed.
But in in Arkham?
There's a beautiful motion to it all.
You never stop, you keep moving, and There's weight to it. The momentum never truly stops, when you shoot the hook batman is still falling until the mechanism kicks in then yeets his ass to the hook.
Its clear when passion is present, and when a plank of wood tripped on a keyboard and shat out a game.
Gotham Knights only looks bad in comparison. If we hadn't gotten the Arkham games, then people would like it a lot better I'm sure. After I got past the mindset of comparing it to Arkham, I realized the game is actually decent, and I'm enjoying my time playing it.
@@jeremyorth5138 keep enjoying your 70$ turd of a game running at 30 fps while looking like a ps3 game while the real men go back to the arkham and insomniac games superhero games
@@jeremyorth5138 your best argument is "if better games didn't exist you'd like this mediocre one better"?
and in arkham city when you boost with the grappling hook onto a ledge where an enemy is standing , that mf is dead
@@quinn7427 HAVWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I'm very impressed by batgirl's ability to literally suspend gravity as she shoots her grapple hook.
I'm very impressed at Batman's ability to literally ignore g-forces that would otherwise disconnect a man's shoulder from it's socket at the speeds he stops himself and instantly is yanked in another direction, one handed by his grapple.
Physics in a video game, based on a comic book, is never a viable argument because it'll always ignore them.
Women moment
@@macdaddymario nah he's just mad strong
@@macdaddymario It is absolutely a viable argument.
You could always argue that his grappling hook and/or suit has some mechanism of shock absorbtion. Also, this immunity to shoulder dislocation doesn't break immersion. It's a background issue.
Batgirl's ability to pause gravity is front and center with no clear explanation.
It's like seeing someone burn alive in an exploding car and then seeing them alive 10 seconds later without a scratch. There has to be an explanation for something that so clearly defies logic.
@@macdaddymario There's "kinda weird that his arms aren't being fucked up by what he's doing" and there's "that girl is literally defying gravity"
One of those things is much less obvious than the other and infinitely less immersion breaking.
Were we too harsh on Gotham Knights now that SS:KTJL has been released?
Absolutely. Genuinely it’s stupid because SSKTJL is just a worse game overall. People only hated on this one because it was different
No Gotham knight is still dogshit
Graphics are temporary, Art Direction is eternal
Basically Bloodborne
@@chadderbug7587 nah mate, try Zelda The Windwaker
@@AR_112 na mate legacy of kain
@@klonoa450 legacy of irrelevant
@@klonoa450nah mate try Zelda breath of the wild
the complete loss of inertia with the grappling hook in the batgirl clip is so insane
bro it’s making me laugh
To be fair, originally before upgraded with glide boost skill, batman grappling hook work similarly to the batgirl one.
Guys, mechanical engineer here. I notice these physics mistakes all the time, everywhere. Its just more noticeable here, but they happen everywhere
@Jay R So we should accept a substandard but also full price game just because the dev team is smaller? Keep huffing those lowered expectations.
@@EBgCampos Heh, your education is worthless
It's crazy how the batmobile moments were so satisfying especially the fact you could damage buildings with it.
Oh y'all are praising those now, I do remember before that people wouldn't stop complaining about the Batmobile.
Although I guess now that there's another game to hate on you edgy little hipsters have to hate on something huh.
Do you work at a movie theater? Because I've never seen someone project so much@@Plsrateeight
@@Plsrateeight👴🏻
@@Plsrateeightexcept hating people for no reason what else do you do on Internet?, fucking 9 yearold
@@Plsrateeight
" Y'all are praising those now you edgy little hipsters "
Only one comment, it does not define everyone
And it was praising the moments with no hate whatsoever, please get checked out.
One has coop, the other doesnt. You make graphical sacrifices for coop.
The fact this game is 7 years old makes me realise how quickly time can pass
8 now
Fuuuu i can remember the first trailer
In Africa every 60 seconds a minute passes.
@@zwenkwiel816ye no shit
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I think the idea is you aren't really "calling" the bike, you're just deactivating its optical camoflage to reveal it next to you. The effect is pretty indistinguishable from just having the bike teleport in, though (which is literally what the game is doing). And it's certainly not as badass as calling the Batmobile and then after a few seconds' delay hearing the roar of the engine and seeing it come flying around the corner
Wait, that effect *isn't* supposed to look like someone dying in fortnite??? I. Huh... I mean, I feel like there are a lot of ways you could convey that it's coming out of camouflage, first one that comes to mind is that thing that marvel movies especially do with big ships having tons of little cameras or mirrors on them, if you had a moment to watch as it kind of "shimmered" into your view that would be genuinely sick, watching as this nondescript patch of environment is revealed to be hiding a vehicle, but instead we got.. That.
is that what that is? camoflage?
Listen IDC about badass it's quicker and it gets me there ight lol.
Sorry to say this game not Arkham
@@clairifedverified2513 what kind of fucking complaint is that ?
So it's following her around like an invisible dog waiting to decloak?
Destruction mechanics of Arkham Knight is so damn underrated imo. The mayhem you can cause with the Batmobile is crazy and it is just so satisfying to ram thugs' cars and send them flying lol
I loved the destruction physics. Every time I saw a pillar, I would just sideswipe it. It was so satisfying
Let's be real here, the cars completely exploding apart when you run into them is comically outrageous. Like if a LEGO game had an RTX mod.
ah yes, destroying Gotham City with reckless abandon. one of Batman's core principles.
Specially when they noticed you and said:
"Oh shit! It's Batman, and he has a fucking tank!!!"
Nice memories.
yeah, i think the same way. The problem was the oversaturation of these batmobile missions that took out all the spotlight of these great features
I said to my dad when I played it in 2015, and I quote, “Arkham Knight is ten years ahead of its time.”
I’m well on track to being 100% correct.
did you just quote yourself?
@@Legendaryium :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@@Legendaryium Doesn't seem wrong to me, to repeat something you've said in the past
@@digitaldood9347 I'm not a language expert but I dont think you have to quote yourself when you are saying something you have said in the past, except for scientific papers.
@@Legendaryium But he's just speaking normally, nothing is out of line. He's not "quoting" himself like he's shakespere, he's just saying that he LITERALLY said what he was putting in quotations. What else would he say?
"In the past I said "This game is 10 years ahead""?
It seems like there are technicalities being dragged into places they seem to belong, but don't actually
You see the love that they put in Batman Arkham city. It doesnt matter what year they make it in. Its the passion by the devs for the franchise that counts.
love? lol not with lack of boss fights and good story. Arkham city did it better
Not the same devs
That and the fact nostalgie of the adsets etc were already created. And also not for a new environment etc.
*Arkham City
Arkham Knight is the mediocre third entry that ends an amazing franchise. Think of Kung Fu Panda or The Original Star Wars Trilogy. The first part builds anticipation, the second pulls off such high highs that the third cannot even touch it.
@@frogglen6350 Arkham knight has a good story, and no bosses don’t really matter at all lol 💀
I love how the batmobile has suspenders, one of the only times I've seen it implemented outside of racing games
GTA 4 had a pretty cool physics engine. The suspension made most cars actually feel heavy and different to drive. I think it was too complicated for the average man to pick up and play though so I think that's why it became more arcadey in GTA5. Still an underrated feature/detail.
@@DantesGrill I agree, in my opinion GTA 4 is still the best GTA with the best physics of any in the series by far
@@DantesGrill Yeah I freaking loved those muscle cars man felt badass to drive, I had Niko 2 parked out front at all times lol
Many games that aren’t racing games have suspension for their vehicles, but it depends on which game and which vehicles. The batmobile having suspension is kinda surprising
@@DantesGrill gta games do give a big importance to cars, the name itself has a car related term. Cartheft
I mean, its not like the new one is necessarily bad. But its just noticeable that one was made with love, and the other with money.
The crazy thing about the Batmobile and Batcycle is that they're actually going at similar speeds. The dev team didn't do a great job with the game's physics though and settled for adding speed lines.
I think that's that whole game, tbh
They settled
I mean on their defense why would they make possible to destroy civilians cars with the Batcycle? In Arkham Knight it was ok to crash them because most were empty or had criminals in them
Don't defend them. Didn't you see how the bike just stopped on a dime after colliding with that vehicle? She was doing a wheelie too, and everyone knows in games that means that car is now a ramp. She should have ramped over that car and yes, damaged it. The car doesn't have to explode, but something needs to happen.s
@@NickTovA I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said. I was only commenting on the depiction of vehicle speed.
The games ass why go for a bit of an RPG setup it made no sense oh the stealth is so wack don't get me started but fr somehow the batmobile still feels faster then the batcycle