The truth behind dory fish | Undercover Asia | Full Episode
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2019
- Uncover hard truths in the underbelly of Asia.
What’s the truth behind one of Asia’s cheapest and most consumed fish - the pangasius or "dory" fish? Is it a miracle super-fish ideal for the thrifty consumer, or a toxin-filled product that we should avoid?
The ubiquitous pangasius fish fills supermarket shelves and restaurant menus in Asia. Yet fifteen years ago, it was rarely seen. The heart of pangasius production lies in Vietnam’s Mekong Delta, which supplies an expanding global market.
But in the last decade, there have been damaging stories circulating in Western media and online. Its critics claim that pangasius contains toxic and harmful chemicals, due to the "filthy" Mekong river and unregulated breeding and feeding by fish farmers.
Defenders of the fish point to these stories as evidence of protectionism, especially by the US catfish industry and barely-disguised racism against ‘dirty’ Asian practices. So is the pangasius potentially dangerous to consumers, or is it the victim of unfair vilification?
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Business 101: if you can't compete, launch a smear campaign.
Agreed..🤝🌹😉
Politics 101: if you can't compete, launch a smear campaign.
Agreed. Shame on u white people
Life101: If you can't..... ah whateva. Just launch a smear campaign.
@@aidasaair3698 Well..Because of Albino Disorders, they concluded everything & everyone elsewhere around the Globes have to be as colorless as the ◽🏠 that has been Washing Tons of Hands of blood stains and 👹👺 Misdeeds Criminal Activities they 👈 scars in other's homelands in those past years-long..However, when it comes to political agendas & green scraps notes, their minds are murky and 🌑 worst than those Mekong Rivers that instead of growths and make things lighter, their mindsets R so 🌑 and polluted that if the fish🐠🐠 can walk up on inland with their fins to survive..Bet ya they would in sec.. What a SHAME..🙄🙄..
I was expecting a lab analysis of water quality, fish meat contents from this clip. a mere reading of the contents on the fish feed packing don't mean anything. a more scientific and evidential base approach is needed in upholding the spirit of investigative journalism. after watching the clip don't ans its own question at all.
Research doesn't work like that. It's your responsibility to read published journals and draw your conclusion. You can't expect a documentary to be a complete research. You have been poisoned by the previous dubious videos that didn't do tests neither
I was expecting that too.....not just mislabeling.
So ridiculous.
All those houses on the water... no electricity.....no water pipes ....where are the flush toilets?
Pooping in the river.......
Typical.
@@JH-dl6vu they do it all the time and most of that time people believe in them
@@gatekeeper1873 probably the scientists can't find anything wrong but are paid to be silent
ich1978 SG ,
"Catfish from Asia has been proven to contain cancer-causing chemicals, unapproved drugs, industrial waste..." - LOL they scared of imported catfish when maybe most of their food already has those. 😅
Specially their 'farmed' salmons :)
True, especially SE Asia. The corruption countries. Their way of doing business is pay to play.
the fish were farmed naturally only in cages with provided food. why does they said its dangerous? they think cheap fish need to put another substances which will increase its price? American so weird
@@bzzvlog5879 they just cant accept others being better than them head on, so have to play dirty to win..
Egoistic and pathetic..
Like how they brainwashed us thinking MSG is worst than salt.
US losing to vietnamese farmers? Sounds familiar lol
What a stupid comment
Lmao, I get it
Stupidazz
Ewwwwuh...that hurts!!
Hahaha that is a fact
Hi there, my background in medical, chemical and environmental field: I can only tell my wife when go shopping for food:
1// Small wild seafood with short life span because the short life cycle tends to help minimize the toxicity being stored in the seafood creature system.
2// Grow your own veggies and fruits as much as you can.
3// Only buy organic meat as much as you can.
Noob
By the way, US, Australia, and European country had been dumping their rubbish in Asian country. So stop being a hypocrite commenting on other country of pollution and human rights. Nauseating.
Very true
Exactly just as they created the can food concept! They did that same thing in the caribbean islands till they make the government pass laws that the locals can't raise chickens to sell but the country must import their chemical laced poultry
Truth
It's as if saying to the Asians growers that....you're not qualified to produce aquaproducts laced with this growth hormones and antibiotics just the way western handles it professionally, and dumps it in your markets and groceries...🤣🤣🤣👊👊👊🥶🥶🥶🧐
Ok. But don't eat the fish. We buy everything else they send.
And ...yea our food contains garbage too.
When they showed "Dory" from Finding Nemo, I totally lost it..🤣
Me too, checked the comments to see if anyone else noticed that part.
Lol
7:53 says the people who dumped their thrash in asia and now come back to blame Asia, good job
Tell me about these westerners are hypocrites if anything
American logic
@@ThatOneMalaysianGuy yea it got us to the worlds top economy must be doing something right
@@wandowander9360 Westerner busy protected their people and you Asian peoples and government busy money hungry and corrupted.... so it is always good to be a westerner.
@@english9o99
Who said im Asian?
I saw "Dory" in the title and thought this was going to be about Dory from Finding Nemo. Lol
The fish name was Blue Tang
Cream Dory 😁
Hollywood: Finding Dory 2
Who put agent orange in Vietnam?
Trump, the biggest orange boss
@@FreeFrogWatching If in doubt, blame the one who isn't actually involved in it. LOL!
@@DrakeLimOfficial I was just kidding, but everyone took it very seriously. I know Trump was against it.
@@FreeFrogWatching Hahaha! Okay! I was mistaken. But yeah, that Trump Derangement Syndrome is really strong. That's how propaganda works, throughout history.
1. Capelin Roe sold as Prawn Roe
2. Flounder sold as Halibut
3. Indian Halibut sold as Sole
4. Pacific Salmon sold as Atlantic Salmon
5. Pangasius sold as Toman (Giant Snakehead)
Pacific salmon is preferred. All Atlantic salmon are farmed.
Another excellent episode.
When the guy said there is nothing wrong, he blinked like there's no tomorrow.
Ni hao
Jae nihao
And the eyebrows
YES, he did
⁰
There are so many fishes labeled wrongly in SG supermarkets, and selling at a much higher price. One very good example is Rainbow trout (it's same colour like the salmon inside but it has a milder taste, actually outwards apparence also resemble salmon) labeled and sold as Norwegian salmon. Maybe the team at NUS can check too.
Buy fresh fish from wet markets. They can't fool you when the fish has its head on.
That why most people go to wet market to buy instead of going to supermarket to buy
rainbow trout also salmon's family
"This is the dory fish" shows Blue Tang 😆 🤣 😂 😆
i died when he showed "Dory" from Finding Nemo! HAHAHAHA
What?
It all comes down to consumer knowledge and consumer choice?
Then what's AVA for?
Another excellent documentary, thanks! Again, I appeal to you to please please organize your other documentary series into playlists so that it's easier for viewers to follow and watch the rest!
Hi xeenslayer! you can check out the entire Undercover Asia playlist here: th-cam.com/play/PLbnMTcZEga8Qg2iAhT4Zyu4zjU-DYSiaB.html
And we're dropping 2 more episodes tonight, so look out for them!
And for more playlists, please check out the channel page!
18:02 Basically besides US we have the rest of the market in the world
THE SAVAGE =))))))
😁😁😁
That expression is over-used.
Truth hurts.
Please don't judge a river by its color. Only stupid people think dirt is poisonous.
wait what. how about holy ganga rivers india 🤣
So you would eat mud?
@@CutieRingoJoy That's like saying don't eat beef if you don't want to eat grass, or not to eat potato chips if you can't eat the dirt they grow in. How are people these days so disconnected from where their food actually comes from?
@@CutieRingoJoy
Thats like saying you dont eat veggies because they grow in dirt. Or dont eat meat because the cow ate grass.
@@pishangggbanana5126 full of corpses
While my mom can't eat any fish except dory 😂
this is a bloody damn lazy documentary, instead of letting 3 sides argue for 5 minutes on whether the water is suitable for farming, why don't the producer go and find out or get a test on the water quality? So frustrating, can't watch anymore!
there other vids on this subject.main prob there,was the pellets,are contaminated.makes the fish sick,then 'biotics make them worse.you should look up chicken..my son is 9 1/2 ft tall.joke.
There was no money for water quality tests after they spent on DNA tests for the frozen fish 😂
Cost to much money.
So i would say " no more foreigns (english native speaker expecially) products in SEA area ." Asia have no problem with our own foods. Easy.
lepatsedap asian countries should also stop importing foods from the west. i am sure asia will survive
Agree
@@lifeisgood2542 totally agree. Make their industry collapse and they will come begging us to safe their arse.
Some how, many Vietnamese girls love American men.
I'm asian and I would gladly choose american and european products due to increased quality and great attention to customer preferences and detail. asian countries should do better and use western standards to benchmark so that they can improve. peace
Basa fillets with kalamatra olives is one of my favorite dishes.
Sutchi fillet u get in supermarket here is pangasius a type of catfish.
Dont be fool as Dory, as John Dory is a sea fish look totally difterent.
Yeah John Dory is the shape of Dory the blue forgetful fish. Much bigger.
Brown murky water in asia river is normal, even in Amazon.
Your sentence structure makes me wonder if Asia has an Amazon as well 😏
Most of it is silt. But ignorant yanks don't know.
The colours of the river water is mainly due to the geology of the terrain it flows through.
Most of the big river . . .
OMG! Have they seen those rivers in the US where they catch their catfish?
so this is CNA version of a CBC: marketplace. they tested multiple seafood in canada and confronted the restaurants that sold mis-labelled seafood as expensive counterparts.
like they found multiple places replacing Lobster with langoustine... and when you tell customer Lobster, people think of the Boston Lobster.
Search Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmare where the restaurant owner sold Norway Lobster as Boston lobster.
Speaking as a chef, I worked for a massive endeavor in the US years ago. They would order this shit by the container full, direct from the producer( farmer). They even would ask what name we wanted on the case of filets. It would come in saying “grouper”
“Snapper”. And we would sell it as Grouper and Snapper. People ate the shit out of it. Be careful when visiting shitty restaurants along the coast, it happens all the time. Some states have outlawed it .
PS. I’m not proud of it. It wasn’t my call and I eventually left because of ethical concerns.
Greg Cekot
Can you expand more on which coast of US you're referring to? Company you worked for? How to know (besides visually) if a restaurant is one of these shitty restaurants you're referring to?
Thanks for speaking out. Consumers who has delicate tongue would k does the difference.
Why label the fish as Catfish in the USA when it's clearly not?
Also, the report in not very conclusive on the safety of the the fish. Why not do some independent tests on the heavy metals, carcinogenic elements, and organoleptic pesticides contents too?
Last I heard, in the US, only the native US catfish species can be legally labeled for sale as catfish.
Fish & Co restaurant & Long John Silver restaurant in Singapore has been lying to customers saying that their fish & chips are made of Dory(saltwater) fish when the Truth is they are Swai(pangasiidae/basa) fish from freshwater.
Saltwater fish is "John Dory". Not many people know that's its completely different from what's been marketed as "Dory". It's a made up name.
It's called Pangasius in Singapore too. The fried fish thst hawkers use in Lor Mee and Fish Beehoon Soup is mostly Pangasius
they said imported catfish is not safe and USA catfish is safe SMELL FISHY!
Feel like commercial scams to me
then you better take a shower although i think you meant "that smells fishy" LOL
@@yokpok85 LOL ...
Catfish are live in the dirty water and they ate dirty compared to other kind of fish...and they goes to toilet tank
@So Young Catfish from the farm is different
Just test the imported fish products for unacceptable levels of pollution and carcinogens. Propaganda against Vietnamese fish farmers and industry is unacceptable and unfair.
Wu Jian Lung Its the same with huawei... The US point finger as soon they get competition
vietnamese people are too poor to afford antibiotics and they probably dont even have enough land for it to be worth it
its been done in spain alone this year 40 tons of fish was empounded by autority due to toxic level of some products used in fedding being way over the alowed, unfortunatly its not easy to check every shipment, spain autorities will place more 200 inspectors just to inspect food coming from asia, south america, north america (yes USA and Canada) and africa
@@markcasila8310 your spelling makes this very unreliable
@@markcasila8310 That is good. Work together with Vietnam. Their farmers will stop using these toxic animal feed.
It's labelled as Basa in Canada and I like it!
They say the same thing with tilapia..we've been eating tilapia since i was young and never got sick. I also dont think they are healthier than us.
Normal loh, when US can’t compete, their culture are to throw false accusations even to creates one just to do their propaganda to paint it bad. They been doing it for decades!!!
Cat fish is usually in the mud and mostly people here in the Philippines few eat kind of fish .
It seems that those who did the story did not check the water where the fish is reared; they should have done so and show the result.
exactly, and test the flesh of the fish. They had that whole laboratory at their disposal. Guessing a lot of money for the program came from Vietnam fisheries.
Wow
Very informative. Thanks.
No one is going to talk about the subtitles being all messed up? Who wrote them dam man.
Lol. The Mississippi is one of the most polluted rivers period. Uh, catfish live in muddy waters
Us and being racist with smear campaign. Match made in heaven.
Oh btw, pangasius is a catfish, scaleless, catfish are carnivorous and also eat anything that is dead.
Salmon are raised in exactly the same way, but nobody hit's out against it. WHY?
Salmon are not bottom feeders. Catfish is.
Your right. Peru raised farmed salmon and it collapsed due to fish pen pollution etc. Salmon are not an indigenous species In Peru. Canada does And buries the health risk as its big export $$$$.
You can't get near a fish pen on British Columbia's
west coast to get a fish to analyze. So researchers watch for an eagle to grab a penned fish and test it. It's contaminated so they don't want it analyzed. However researchers watched eagles grabbing salmon from the pen. And found some eagles landed and tore off part of their catch and left the rest. They confirmed the salmon was in fact contaminated. Tested it against store bough fresh salmon and confirmed the contamination from more than 1 source in Pacific and Atlantic salmon.
I think Sweden does the same and farmed salmon goes to the EU. Fishery minister was fired after bringing the tainted fish problem to light.
As to the not being bottom feeders comment, this is a water quality problem from uneaten food and fish waste products in their pens causing or being the problem. Additionally manufactured fish food is part of the cause.
I'd eat USA farmed catfish or tilapia but that would be occasional these days. Consume Nothing from Asia farmed or supposibly Wild Caught !
Government interference as its a big $$$$$ industry.
@@jackiestowe6987 Yes, salmons arent bottom feeder but still, watch the documentary called Seaspiracy on netflix, you'd be gross out by the salmon agriculture
They should
Thank you!!!
I like how we complain that everything is expensive these days yet when we come across something of a lower price we suspect it
Ever heard of they old saying "it's to good to be true"?
we don't suspect it because it is a lower price, clean your brain
Scaled fish are safe to eat - Written in the oldest instruction manual for humanity.
I was a bit confused, as I know if it is Dory fish it is refer to John Dory the fish from the Sea and if it is Pagasus it is refer to THE CATFISH. Singapore need to get the label correctly.
Exactly. I'm Australian and I thought they were talking about John Dory. In Australia, catfish is sold as basa.
Is it sutchi fillet.?
CAN YOU PLEEEEEEEASE POST MORE OF THESE??? I LOVE THEM!! Merry Christmas y'all.
And realizing ASIANS CONSUMING THE FISH LIVES LONGER than these people banning the products 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Western: lets do gmo's
Asian: lets make our own fish food and
not rely on western
Western: that's cancerous
we produce alot here in 🇲🇾... locally produce and quality checked.
Great one
When you can longer compete, you..... just like edible oils. LOL
Stop politicizing and demeaning other countries products
its not demonizing, its just investigating what we are eating, same thing hapens in other coutnries just asians are the only ones complaining when they are seling piseness fish not wating theyr customers to know
i mean, the video is pretty unbiased hahaha, they interview people about how its totally fine almost exclusively for the first 20 minutes
It’s a very very tasty fish esp if it’s caught in the wild. It’s also pretty expensive (wild caught ones). Tastes awesome when steamed.
lots of Farmed Fish or shrimps come from Indonesia, but we dont grow it inside the river that we used daily. We use waterponds and we have water treatment so it is sterile when the water that had been used are dumped. Lots of farmed fish are using nutrients, however, all the nutrients are half organics and half are produced. And all the nutrients are produced by big companies. I am just shocked in the narrative they use "Fish From Asia" while Asia have lots of countries and lots of Farmed Fish Varieties (Shrimps for example).
Setuju
I trust Indonesian and Malaysian seafood than Viet. I rather pay more even if viet product is cheaper.
Indonesian waters are highly polluted though
@@melalcantara4377 Depends on the area . For Shrimp farming, which are sensitive to bad water. It easy to die. so we need best quality of sea water to produce.
@@melalcantara4377 Indonesian water is vast.. there are deep water fish, lake and river fish... In fact, not only importing fish from Indonesia, but some countries also stealing fish from Indonesia... So, how dangerous is Indonesian water?
Don’t the US companies do the same hormone breeding thing for their Salmons?
I ate a piece of Bassa once and got sick. Fish used to be good for you, now it only is if you are an expert buyer.
In malaysia we call this fish patin.we farm it ourselves.nice for cooking Patin tempoyak.maybe u should try
…No la..in Msia we called it ikan Duri..
Your docus are very informative but pls enlarge subtitles on some episode for better reading TKS!
Pangasius is more cheaper in the Philippines and the taste are not that good..most of the filipinos never eat pangasius
A powerful demonstration of how powerful a documentary can be in creating and spreading lies & propaganda ...........
Very informative content but where is the lab result for Panga from Vietnam?
Another issue is, that half of pangas that is frozen contains more water than fish
I have to watch this more seriously...coz i ate pangasius all the time, the packaging said that it was imported from vietnam, it taste like catfish but doesn't smell fishy at all, which was great for me
That's because catfish is freshwater fish, not ocean fish. Freshwater fish never smell fishy
Shrimp has so much antibotic in them too. My mom still eats their import fish but she dont buy it as much as before. She forgot the fish in the car for a month and it never rotten.
😮 the climate is hot or cold?
@@haslinjas1075 it was snowing...
jk it was summer. hot summer
People believe “Dory” is similar to expensive fish like Cod, grouper, or amberjack. No folks, Dory is a catfish, raised similar to shrimp in Vietnam. It isnt a pelagic fish that swim the pacific and are caught by boats.
Yup
Yeah.. catfish in asia is not a sea fish
All the while I thought dory was a fish that was superior to catfish .😂
It’s called Basa in English
I recall John Dory was the best table fish in the 70’s and 80’s and expensive. This Dory is not that Dory. I say never buy I fish without it’s head!
Yo my man trying to be funny with the scallop and skate analogy 37:05 but the camera crew be like "Huh?!" and he had to explained it. HAHA
I just discovered that Dory is what Malaysian call ikan patin. Wow, I hate Dory (usually processed fillets), cooked in western style cooking. Ikan patin are usually sold freshly caught and cooked in flavourful broth. My mind is blown now lol
Non-western companies: *success*
Western Companies: *oMaE Wa MoU ShInDEiRu*
Nothing is 100% safe.....eat in moderation and diversification of products we use or consume is the best option
D T correct
False, poison is poison. Eat lower on the food chain!
Rokupix Ruiqi so eating a teaspoon of arsenic a day is moderation....
That's answer, we can choose, but consumers have to be smarter.
AMAZING !!!!!!
This catfish farmers in America initially pushed for laws banning this catfish to be called catfish because they can't compete. Imagine that, a catfish can't be called a catfish.
I'm Vietnamese and the subtitles are really inaccurate in some parts of this documentary. It's really alarming
Could you give us timestamp and translation? Would be really helpful. Ty.
lol protect your own
TBH, I've known pangasius as Cream Dory long before I became familiar with John Dory. The latter is not a common fish where I'm from. The name really meant nothing to people here but the rather generic white fish that always came as boneless skinless fillets. There's nothing unhealthy about them, they're just not very interesting to eat, IMO. Compared to tilapia, the most common alternative here, pangasius tend to be mushy when cooked and quite bland. But if they're providing so much livelihood to a country like Vietnam, there's nothing wrong with that. Like the video said towards the end, the Vietnamese farmers aren't the ones mislabeling the fish, and its a problem with several other fish species that get mislabelled.
I saw the german documentary couple years ago, i did stop buying pangasius since then. Now i dont know what to believe
but isn't toman the cheaper of the snakeheads? Usually in SEA the snakehead of choice for cuisine is usually the haruan or striped snakehead. In thailand the giant snakehead is around 40 baht a kilo while the striped snakehead is at least 80 baht a kilo last I checked.
No different from salmon farming in Norway...both are not safe for consumption...eat at your own risk.
how do you know they are not safe for consumption?
Indeed. We need to be aware of the micro plastic and heavy mercury from the sea creatures
Yep ...well said, big cover up on salmon
@@WELLBRAN it's not covered up. They need to be sold with a health warning these days.
@@grahamt5924 fish...with a health warning?.... That'll work!
when you guys easily die from bee stings, but we asians aren't! You don't need to compare because you and asian have different ways of life.
How disgusted am I feeling right now, to know, how cheap, people can be.
I looked at Bangkok river when I was in Bangkok, it is so true that the color of the water is brown and yet the boat people are selling food on the boat. How dirty it is one can imagine.
Brown is still good. In Indonesia we have black water river and people fish there and eat the fish.
Every year, 200 thousand tons of industrial waste are dumped into the Mekong river! Guess who invented/sold this industrial waste??
Idiot. Nobody invents or sells industrial wastes
@CNA you should make an episode about Ganges River in India too..
Ming Yee Lim lol
Hellow friend they dont catch fish in ganges most of the people are vegatarian know your facts
HAHAHA that would be WAAAAY TOO obvious.
(37:10)It was at least 20 yearsI heard about the use of a holepunch on Skate (wing flaps) to make a product sold as scallops.
If you think pangasius is a hazard, you guys/girls should look at the norwegian salmon industry...
When you order fish in a USA restaurant. Ask where the fish came from. By law they have to tell you.
Smart as comment from waitress: "the sea."
Ask her where the corn comes from (the farm). 😗🙃😉
If this video is fair and true, there was a part missing here, that is how are the fish farms doing in the US or EU. Are they chemical-free?
They're discussing the Dory (pangasius), unless the US and EU are doing mass farming of Pangasius, then this video is being entirely fair.
thats how its done in europe ... th-cam.com/video/ZXwKtlU304Y/w-d-xo.html
Not sure about fish but in USA, they wash their chicken in chlorine. They actually NEED to wash the chicken in chlorine.. one can judge for themselves the quality of the chicken meat and how they are produced.
@@sumwan3411 at least we know what we are eating ... even if its bad .. that doesnt hapen in some countries
@@markcasila8310 it's all about perspective, the video is shot by professionals to look beautiful, with calming music and scripts that portraits green and sustainable fishing.
The heck, I just ordered dory fish and chips 2 days ago and this pops-up on my recommendations?
This video is so myopic in accessing the reality of the panga industry...
any farmed finish is the same... like the farmed Salmon from Europe
funny thing , always thought dory was a salt water fish
Same. Used to have the impression that it comes from the mediterranean or pacific.
Me too.. i dont even eat catfish and thinking that dory fish is the same..ugghhh!!!!
It is, its a coastal fish with a distinctive spot (God's thumbprint ) Probably put in the title by protectionists to turn Western consumers off John Dory fish as well as Pangasia
Dory fish: blue tang: salt water fish
Only in Singapore according to this video : dory is catfish, but not other part of the world.
Ref: finding Nemo
I just wasted 45 min of my life watching a report which is leaving me with exactly the same doubts I had when I started watching...
My man just showed dory from finding nemo as john dory tf hahahaha
a documentary which lost its focus - pangasius's safety was left hanging as it moved on to talk about fish fraud???
European salmon is also badly produced but i don't see any country bans it
Link ? I am very in interested
@@003thezg3 th-cam.com/video/RYYf8cLUV5E/w-d-xo.html here u go
nope it's not. they actually produce it in clean environments. that's why I always prefer european fish over asian ones.
@@shanekiat2177 before you say anything, watch the link i have provide
im gonna admit it, Mekong river are cleaner than bigger river in Indonesia. We have a severe plastic issue and and industrial chemical waste..
Can’t wait for the day where I can 3D-print my own fish fillet
International competitors wants to ban it. Yeah that says a lot! Hahaha that’s why we’re seeing this documentary.
The consumption of such fish produced by these producers do no compare to the damage Agent Orange has done to the people of Vietnam
The caption at 5:40 is roasting
He said "Pangasius product" but the auto caption is "upon useless product"
🤣
The report said ''This is Chau Doc'' in Northern Vietnam, but it isn't. Chau Doc is in southern Vietnam, in the Mekong Delta.