I love watching videos where I can see kislux different knockoffs. If it looks well made, it saves time and I can reconsider if I really want to buy it, or buy the real thing. If you have the time, it would be great to keep watching more videos like this
I was undecided between a gold star or a royal enfield 650. Im so glad i went with the Enfield 6000 miles and all is good. And no coolant to worry about anyway.
Well that's shocked me , I remember your initial test ride a year ago and I didn't think you rated it much , any way that a lovely bike in a nice colour too , enjoy 😎
A pal of mine loaned me his Gold Star. I was amazed by how much motorbike he got for his money. My suggestion is to ignore all the BSA heritage blah blah blah nonsense because, for anyone on a tight budget, this is actually a very capable and comfortable machine. Fit a screen and some luggage and head for the hills.
I’ve had mine 18 months without fault. I’m sorry to hear to have a leak yes there a few issues but you will only hear the bad bits I assure you there are lots of owners like me who have had no issues at all 😊tho I feel your pain. I Would feel the same myself but don’t get to depressed tomorrows a new day itl get sorted and it’s a lovely bike to ride despite any negative comments you will hear 😊😊😊 Al the best phil
@@-old-school-motorcyclesltd Thanks Phil. I really wanted this experience to be a positive one. I’ve don’t done how-to videos to enlighten new owners (coming soon). I wanted a Gold Star since seeing them at Motorcycle Live and talking to the director. He really wanted quality in each build. It’s a month before the dealership can take it in for repairs.
Is that supposed to make people feel better who have had troubles with their Gold Stars? I had lots of problems with mine and it is just not acceptable in this day and age. They were well overpriced when new. I got rid of mine before the prices dropped through the floor. If you sell yours now you might get a lucky bag.
It’s not leaking, it’s is just marking it’s spot. I hope it is something simple to fix. The British look is fine, but it shouldn’t need a diaper at this mileage.
A split on the seam of the oil tank and a loose coolant clip. Removed the tank and had it welded and replaced the clip as I was waiting a long time to achieve warranty.
Do what the last owner did and sell it fast. I agree, regardless of previous ownership, at 800 miles you shouldn't be experiencing coolant leaks. Smacks of crappy cheap rubbish.
I love my BSA GS 650 after 6000 miles. If the bike is leaking fluids and it has had the health check, sounds like a dealer error. The washer on the reserve oil tank may not have been replaced/nipped up properly. Coolant leak sounds odd, but may be from the same service issue. My bike handles well,if a little slow steering, check tyre pressures and crank up the preload on rear shocks to suit your riding.
Hi Bill. This perfectly encapsulates what I am meeting with owners, their bikes are okay, perfect and trouble free. But for the rest of us we have defects in the machines. We have extended wait times for warranty and extended wait times on parts that are on back order. - I did check the oil tank O-ring on mine as its a known issue. What I am seeing is a percentage of bikes that are produced badly, so if it were a confectionary bar, how many defective chocolate bars does it take to do a recall? One in five? One in five hundred? - Its a logistical nightmare for BSA I am sure. I suspect this isn’t the end of my troubles as the bike had been off the road now since i got it home with an even bigger issue which i am editing, plus I have been sure to show owners what to look for before their bike succumbs to the exact same fault. - I really wish this BSA was reliable like yours.
Your screen has been put on wrong. It should have the brackets mounted within headlight . Have you checked the 22mm bolt on back of the engine, they are prone to be loose and the oil leaks down the side stand onto the floor. Make sure the dealer you bought it from has done the health check.
@@jacko123 Yes, previous owner added the screen. Now removed. I did chuckle when I saw how out of alignment it was. Didnt want to leave it at Debbies, not my job to fill her home with junk. So took it home, removed it, recycled it.
I understand a number of the new Triumph 400 owners are experiencing many different problems too. Makes you wonder if you should always wait a couple of years before buying a newly launched model.
@@paulbudford I want it to improve. A four week wait for the dealer to take the bike in is a shame but I guess all dealers are busy. Tomorrow another day…
Should have identified the leak and loose side panels within the review and road test before purchasing. If the coolant tank needs attention in such a short ride you have no excuse for taking it and finding out later. Buyer beware, bought as seen, nothing to do with poor manufacture by BSA.
There is no excuse for any manufacturer to produce a vehicle of any description that leaks. If it is common for this to happen it is just plain and simple shoddy design and not fit for purpose. I have ridden a 59 dbd goldstar and was thinking about booking a test ride on a new one to compare hoping that the new one was a tame and easy to ride machine with the benefits of modern materials and design. I hope yours can be sorted out quickly
@@TheBlibo current BSA owners hate anyone telling the truth. The grief they’ve given me for showing these is epic. They’ll throw each other under the bus rather than let the truth out
For me its a history thing. My Nan had a Norton, My Grandad a Triumph and my father a BSA. THe first photo he took with me was me (a baby) being held up by my father as he sat on his BSA. AH well, maybe I should have bought a classic BSA
@@SuperMatchless1 Yes they do! 100% it was installed by the previous owner. At the time I was hundreds of miles away from home so just wanted to adjust it upward. I’ve since removed it. I kinda liked the look but wanted just to get home, without messing with the bike too much. Thanks for your comment, as it helps others to see these mistakes. Cheers!
Did you manage to sort out this leakage problem and the wiring cutting out the ignition. I have a GS with about 1800 miles and no problems at all - brilliant bike.
@@timharley7599 Yes, the leaks were driving me mad, replaced coolant clip and had the oil can welded, wiring I left to the dealer but no new loom for me as I’m not in BSA’s good books, so denied. Follow up video to be edited. Crazy this next bit, had to trailer it away as the battery died while at the dealership and so couldn’t be ridden home. Seems battery warranty was 12 months only. I’m popping a nice new battery into the bike tomorrow
they come as standard with a good toolkit, but you have to borrow an allen key! Your bike has certainly had a number of previous owner mods, irrespective of its low miles. Good luck with what are minor niggles potentially caused by the first owners mods, but your post certainly attracts the haters. I've ridden mine on some atrocious roads this winter, gravel in the wet and find it very confidence inspiring. Its early days for the new brand. I wish them well, we're in a major recession here and the first batch all sold out quickly and the second batch. Will be interesting to see how they go in India where RE have fierce brand loyalty. You brits got the first ones and the company is making these bikes in tiny numbers until they establish into the bigger markets like India, North America and Australia. In NZ the dealers are very helpful. I also own some of the original ones from the fifties. Very happy with my BSA ownership.
You got it at a dealer, right? Is it under warranty? I'd take it in and let them do it, if you're not going to take it apart and see what is actually leaking. Or just carry coolant... I have a 2008 Kawasaki Nomad 1600 (Harley wannabe) and it leaks oil... I can fix it, I just haven't yet... letting it live it's best Harley life. Mine leaked coolant too but it appeared to just be a loose hose clamp. Does that BSA come with a toolkit? Carry tools, oil, and some coolant, and ride on!
My only oil pisser was an old 1976 sporty by AMF and assembly by two douchbags who put it together. The case leaked. However, of my 6 EVO sportsters and two big twins, none leaked at all. Harleys have been pretty dry since 1982. Even my old police harley was tight as a tuna. Oh, oh….I did have a tiny o-ring in the clutch cable on my 1993 883 deluxe which leaked a drop per season, but it wsn’t worth the effort to change it out when a single paper towel fixed it.
One thing that looks odd about the bike is the fuel tank appears to go uphill at the front !. Spoils the lines of an otherwise nice looking bike. ( apart from the leaks )
@@rogerwilliams2902 it’s quite a small tank to be fair, its borrowed from the Jawa 42. Is hope for the next generation they revise the tank and the petrol cap. It would really lift the bike
@@WalterSherrington I love this idea! So, make a little hole in the mount and then pop a zip tie through. Very good. Turns out my bike is missing the circlips and rubbers! I contacted the previous owner and he says it’s always done this so many a mistake at production. I’ve ordered replacements but they are on back order. I’ll go with your zip tie suggestion!
It looks beautiful in front of the grape vines there, even if it is leaking coolant. 800 miles on the Odo, does that mean it is due for its first service after break in?
This is a very common statement that "its under warranty". I think from an owner’s perspective, trying to achieve warranty is the issue. An example is my local dealer had over 4 weeks waiting just to get your bike into their workshop. And I am seeing even longer waiting times, its all multi franchise dealers but you’d think they would expand their workshops if they were so busy, so to test this, I booked in my sons Kawasaki. 7 days! That’s right Seven days and his Kawasaki is into exactly the same workshop. My BSA I get to wait a month. Seeing this mentioned online where workshops are prioritising their workload to favour whatever they like most. So today ill do a phone around and see if this is true for dealers further away. - Again, from an owners perspective, you have a fault (could happen to any brand) then you get an extended wait for warranty. Plus I was told this bike has had its recall but he didn’t have any paperwork as the dealerships are all putting it online. So now im "did he tell me the truth?", to be fair, he was a nice guy, hasn’t lied about anything else. I would like this ownership experience to improve, lets see how it goes
@MotoTingle There appears to be a problem with BSA and dealerships over warranty work regarding what BSA will pay for. Dealerships are therefore prioritising other work over BSA .
It’s like anything you buy you can get a bad one, it’s luck of the draw, it’s under warranty so take it back. I bought a 2004 Kawasaki zx10r, had to return it because of dodgy handlebars clamps and a recall for a front wheel but 20 years on the bike runs like it did from day one so no reason to pull a manufacturer down, it may take time to sort it but insure they will.
@@madbadger85 and that’s the problem. Try getting it into a BSA dealer first warranty. I’ve been waiting three weeks and I’ve still got two more weeks to wait, just to get it into the workshop. The reason? “We’re having trouble getting parts from BSA”. So I phoned Plymouth and they said “we’ve stepped away from BSA”. My next dealer is a two hour drive away and they can’t take it in for 3.5 weeks.
It’s true, nobody wants problems. Check out the comments on this video as BSA owners ridicule me buying an 800mile bike. They are not a friendly crowd if you happen to show issues to the world. In other words, they ain’t got your back
It's a nice looking bike, but I think I would trade it in for a Royal Enfield. Maybe just a bad example.At least it takes on the mantle of an original Beezer, just leaks coolant instead of oil. Hope it gets sorted out though.
@@markbrennan4693 I want to sell mine as soon as it’s repaired under warranty. I’m still waiting to get it into the dealership. Then I’ll wait for repairs. I hope I don’t have to fight for warranty. Feels wrong owing a bike and people are pointing out it’s leaking. Debbie’s concrete, I still need to clean it up.
Sounds like you bought a second hand bike that may have been 'worked on' by the previous owner. Why did you not get a dealer to investigate before slagging of a good bike and also show the reason for the fluid excaping? Sounds like a dealer error on the 500 mile initial service. My Legacy model purchased new is still perfect after two years.
BSA Accepted Repaired ALL the issues as 'Manufacturing Defects' before my videos were released. My motorcycle has only ever been worked on my its supplying dealer. or BSA would have rejected the faults! So it begs the question, who is feeding you with false and misleading information?
Just to understand, you bought this bike from a private seller not a dealer? Also is it over a year old, because if not it would have still had breakdown recovery included. I hope it’s sorted soon and will be interested to know the prognosis
Yes, 12 months old and the guy was a real gent. Its like three days over the 12 month old so no RAC, but that’s good because RAC relay is an experience I can do without. Was stressful as I did all the right things. One owner, I did a HPI on it, full service, he told me its had the health check but didn’t provide any paperwork, when I asked him he said the dealers don’t give any paperwork as its not classed as a service. Which is fair as I had warranty recently on a different brand and was not given any paperwork. If anything I am pleased to be part of the BSA family. I am not going anywhere soon, and will do as you, help owners to achieve the best experience they can get out of their BSA’s - Because were a growing family, lets help owners and new owners know more about their bikes and hopefully enjoy the ride. Theres been too much of this "im alright Jack" with BSA owners, were a community and need to know more about the brand and the bikes. If theres an issue, other brand owners get to talk about it openly. and this video isnt to slag off BSA. Ive always wanted one since they first appeared at Motorcycle Live. Id like this bike to stay and for me to enjoy its presense in my life.
@@MotoTingle yes I have, mainly cosmetic for TEC (found second hand) shrouded shocks. Minor improvement but don’t expect them to be very durable. Be aware shrouded shocks squeak!
Imho the problem with Goldstar is that it's neither old school classic nor modern retro. Water cooled Rotax has no character, and the massive radiator completely destroys the looks of a big bore 1960s single. It's not home maintenance friendly and Triumph make better modern retros. Royal Enfields with both the 350 and 650 have hit the classic old school retro nail on the head . With just enough modern tech for reliability and easy riding but retaining soul and character. Something the BSA totally misses
It’s an old engine by todays standards, BMW tried to technically improve it during their time with it, my feelings are this engine dirty’s it’s oil quickly and this in turn causes gear change issues for owners, it runs very lean, so needs a whopping big radiator to keep the cylinder cool.
the bmw f650 engine these are based off the coolant header tank was high up at the back of the bike ,looks like the coolant tank on these is lower than the engine wich is probably why it leaks coolant through expansion when hot then overflows out
BSA it seems is not doing very well with them it seems. Spare parts not easy to get......discounting ticket prices.....all looking not to good to me. I did hope BSA would do well with this Machine......Pity.
It should have been built in the UK where we have quality standards. I was checking out the Google reviews of the factory and one guy was saying his boss was drunk two days running. I guess my bike was built during his shift 😂
@@MotoTingle I don't like the idea of not having a temp gauge, what a stupid idea in my opinion, I owned a Fiat years ago that just had a red warning light, didn't feel that I could trust it.
As a GoldStar owner since March 23 I've had only a few minor irritations but it's the company that stink in my opinion, the way they deal with their dealer's and their customers leaves a lot to be desired. The discounting over the last few months has played havoc with second hand values, i paid 6800 for my version its got 275 miles on it and a Honda dealer offered me 2600 against a bike costing 9 grand. Nobody seems to want it.
Lukas Distribution offered to help, said they'd have it resolved quickly. They have not done anything to assist me, front of house its all "Contact us, were here to help" and behind the scenes its "explain your faults to your local dealer". I agree the bikes have little value in the trade. The only "value" is in the stories owners tell themselves about BSA heritage. The trade know these are made in a Jawa factory and have priced their PX value accordingly and correctly. I've never not shared photos with family and friends as a new bike enters my life, until now. I would like to sell this motorcycle and be done with it. For now, I just have to wait until its repaired.
If all this crap is common as you say then why did you buy it? Especially a used bike. I do not get it.If the side panels keep popping off how did you not notice it before you handed the cash over? When I buy a bike I am over the moon. Do your homework first. You should take someone along with you who knows what they are looking at. If the bike has cheap shite stuck on it that tells you all you need to know about the previous owner. Plenty of new deals right now and then you get a warranty. If it REALLY only has 800 miles then why was it being sold? Unfortunately sounds like you bought a right dog. Doesn't matter if it is new if the first owner was a butcher. If it's handling scares you why not test ride one first. Do not get this video at all.
Bike look nice but your review is of a second hand bike with 800 miles you say in your comment it has coolant leaks! this is the first time I seen this report by an owner. But you also go on about an after market chepo mini fairing being miss alighted fitting onto the headlight, this is do to another owner fitting capability and not BSA factory. Ive written this not to be rude to you but slagging of your bike is easy to do but you should include your bike is not new and have got issues because of other owners before you got it you say its annoying to have these issues with a low milage bike Its not BSA fault but the owners before you. Ive seen on low milage motorcycles before when the owner is not trained in motorcycle repairs This is the reason why you should buy from a dealer Then you have something to write about if you had the same problems Next time buy from a dealer and you should be a lot happier but then you will have to pay more.As for the side panels take your time and put them on properly and not with hard force again Ive seen it all before If you are not happy with it give it to a motorcycle mechanic to give it a PDI and not to a home mechanic not self taught person.Regards Andy Watts from Lowestoft
@@Andy588tt I hear you. BSA corrected the faults fully under warranty. NONE were caused by previous owner intervention. They were accepted as manufacturing defects way before the video went live. The tail tidy was fitted by the supplying dealer, the only part fitted by the previous owner was the front fly screen which I removed. I am unsure why anyone thinks the previous owner caused any of the issues apart from a poorly installed fly screen? I did include the bike is not new and had one owner. I like my Gold Star, another confusing thing I’ve heard is I dislike them, which is odd for someone who’s bought one 😂 I always buy stuff I dislike. Haha! It’s all good.
It surely came with a warranty? Nothing worse than niggly faults, though. On the upside, it's a pretty bike, especially in those colours. On the upside, again, I've got a 1998 BMW F650, and the rotax 650cc engine is super reliable, and it's the engine this BSA is based on. I've had no coolant or oil leaks or any faults in 5 years, so I think, perhaps, you've been a bit unlucky, here? However, roast the dealer and be firm and ask how they are going to make this up to you.
@@T-Bone54 It’s true, I’ve seen F650’s with 50,000+ miles. Yes it has warranty but achieving it is the issue. It takes close to 4 weeks to get a motorcycle into a dealer. That’s the real frustration
@@MotoTingle Oh, tell me about it. Often warranties are as good as the mood of the dealer and determination of the customer. It often seems as if the costs of the warranty are coming out of the salesman's own pocket, such is their reluctance to follow through. A maxim I always follow in this regard is not to get angry, but to be the squeaky wheel that has to be oiled. Pester them, at first every couple of days, then every day, and if required morning and afternoon. It works. They are messing you around with this 4 week nonsense, too. Imagine if you told them you'd take the bike but due to circumstances out of your control, couldn't pay them for 4 weeks?!
@@johnmaltby8241 I’ve a 70’s Honda and it’s a peach 🍑 I think buying a modern bike should be be like this. I see all the BSA owners commenting that I bought second hand so it’s my fault. Explains why their bike have HUGE depreciation 😂 aww, mine too 😂😂😂
Year after year...It will be a pleasure to open TH-cam and finally not find any more adverts extolling this 470 lb imposter. The final Gold Star was the DBD 34.
If I know anything, they wanted production to be in Coventry 🇬🇧 but the tooling was diverted to India just after covidity. I’m thinking a lot of these issues are production faults. The director told me he put 10,000km on a prototype to ensure quality.
Lets be honest this bike is not a BSA Gold Star, it is a cheap, crappy, third world produced bucket of cachu. This pathetic replica must really suit the cheapskate wallets, anyone with any sense (especially those ageing nostalgia seeking wanabee's) should save a bit more of their pension and buy a "proper" bike. Maybe an easy first purchase, but don't kid yourselves, you will try hard to convince yourself you have a nice "new bike", bit your joy will soon become dulled when you try to part ex. even for another BSA or Royal Enfield replica, used prices of these pathetic counterfiets are falling like lead balloons in a bucket of water. The "assemblers" (for they are not makers) of these jokes can't even give it a proper tank badge.............
Yeah 50s through to 71. And no coolant leaks. This is 1970 and really nice. And around 68mpg. The tank is Indian but Spitfire shape with Monza cap, over 200miles to get on reserve. th-cam.com/video/PEk7T4YXoIQ/w-d-xo.html
I love watching videos where I can see kislux different knockoffs. If it looks well made, it saves time and I can reconsider if I really want to buy it, or buy the real thing. If you have the time, it would be great to keep watching more videos like this
I was undecided between a gold star or a royal enfield 650. Im so glad i went with the Enfield 6000 miles and all is good. And no coolant to worry about anyway.
Well that's shocked me , I remember your initial test ride a year ago and I didn't think you rated it much , any way that a lovely bike in a nice colour too , enjoy 😎
It lasted 2.5 days before electrical failure. Haha! Still waiting to get it into a workshop but they cant get the parts
A pal of mine loaned me his Gold Star. I was amazed by how much motorbike he got for his money. My suggestion is to ignore all the BSA heritage blah blah blah nonsense because, for anyone on a tight budget, this is actually a very capable and comfortable machine. Fit a screen and some luggage and head for the hills.
@@J.Harry.T Exactly, you have to appreciate it for what it is. I’m glad he is enjoying his ride.
I’ve had mine 18 months without fault. I’m sorry to hear to have a leak yes there a few issues but you will only hear the bad bits I assure you there are lots of owners like me who have had no issues at all 😊tho I feel your pain. I Would feel the same myself but don’t get to depressed tomorrows a new day itl get sorted and it’s a lovely bike to ride despite any negative comments you will hear 😊😊😊
Al the best phil
@@-old-school-motorcyclesltd Thanks Phil. I really wanted this experience to be a positive one. I’ve don’t done how-to videos to enlighten new owners (coming soon). I wanted a Gold Star since seeing them at Motorcycle Live and talking to the director. He really wanted quality in each build. It’s a month before the dealership can take it in for repairs.
Is that supposed to make people feel better who have had troubles with their Gold Stars? I had lots of problems with mine and it is just not acceptable in this day and age. They were well overpriced when new. I got rid of mine before the prices dropped through the floor.
If you sell yours now you might get a lucky bag.
@@johnevans306 Please tell me I didn't buy your bike from you! Haha! OMG
No one should be having issues.
There’s too many who are.
It’s not leaking, it’s is just marking it’s spot. I hope it is something simple to fix. The British look is fine, but it shouldn’t need a diaper at this mileage.
A split on the seam of the oil tank and a loose coolant clip. Removed the tank and had it welded and replaced the clip as I was waiting a long time to achieve warranty.
Do what the last owner did and sell it fast. I agree, regardless of previous ownership, at 800 miles you shouldn't be experiencing coolant leaks. Smacks of crappy cheap rubbish.
I love my BSA GS 650 after 6000 miles. If the bike is leaking fluids and it has had the health check, sounds like a dealer error. The washer on the reserve oil tank may not have been replaced/nipped up properly. Coolant leak sounds odd, but may be from the same service issue. My bike handles well,if a little slow steering, check tyre pressures and crank up the preload on rear shocks to suit your riding.
Hi Bill. This perfectly encapsulates what I am meeting with owners, their bikes are okay, perfect and trouble free. But for the rest of us we have defects in the machines. We have extended wait times for warranty and extended wait times on parts that are on back order. - I did check the oil tank O-ring on mine as its a known issue. What I am seeing is a percentage of bikes that are produced badly, so if it were a confectionary bar, how many defective chocolate bars does it take to do a recall? One in five? One in five hundred? - Its a logistical nightmare for BSA I am sure. I suspect this isn’t the end of my troubles as the bike had been off the road now since i got it home with an even bigger issue which i am editing, plus I have been sure to show owners what to look for before their bike succumbs to the exact same fault. - I really wish this BSA was reliable like yours.
Your screen has been put on wrong. It should have the brackets mounted within headlight . Have you checked the 22mm bolt on back of the engine, they are prone to be loose and the oil leaks down the side stand onto the floor. Make sure the dealer you bought it from has done the health check.
@@jacko123 Yes, previous owner added the screen. Now removed. I did chuckle when I saw how out of alignment it was. Didnt want to leave it at Debbies, not my job to fill her home with junk. So took it home, removed it, recycled it.
I understand a number of the new Triumph 400 owners are experiencing many different problems too. Makes you wonder if you should always wait a couple of years before buying a newly launched model.
What I noticed was Triumph owners all working together and supporting one another. This BSA lot are all Toxic. Well now they have me to contend with 😂
Yep, NEVER buy a new to the market vehicle, customers are the real long term testers of it.
@@steveclark.. Thats me, crash test dummy. Only I waited until everone said the troubles were over! Haha!
Let's hope your ownership experience improves.
Good old Debbie. Making sure you went home with the right tool.
@@paulbudford I want it to improve. A four week wait for the dealer to take the bike in is a shame but I guess all dealers are busy. Tomorrow another day…
@@MotoTingle There are a 5 mm and a 6 mm Allen key in the tool kit. Which size did you need?
@@fuglbird Yes, I had the tool kit posted on to me, it wasnt supplied with the motorcycle
A leak, about as close it will get to a "real" gold star 😂
Should have identified the leak and loose side panels within the review and road test before purchasing. If the coolant tank needs attention in such a short ride you have no excuse for taking it and finding out later. Buyer beware, bought as seen, nothing to do with poor manufacture by BSA.
Interesting. Rectified at no cost to me.
@MotoTingle are you saying BSA authorised the repair at no cost? If so maybe you should have included that to substantiate your implied criticism.
@@Seasidesurfer It's for an upcoming video. My dealer was great.
I live a few minutes walk from a BSA dealer, l have never seen one on the road yet!
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 They are out there, many in garages for old boy eye candy.
Wait for the owner rage 😂😂😂
Btw we should totally take our thumpers out, I'll bring lunch for the breakdown stop.
😂😂😂
Well, the first owner got rid pretty quickly.
@@jez6208 Yes, he seemed like a nice guy too.
@@MotoTingle I'm always a really nice guy when I'm selling a pile of sh*t. I suspect most of us are.
Since this bike has 800 miles on it, I would guess that it is second hand...and the original owner saw the light and got rid of the nightmare PDQ.
There is no excuse for any manufacturer to produce a vehicle of any description that leaks. If it is common for this to happen it is just plain and simple shoddy design and not fit for purpose.
I have ridden a 59 dbd goldstar and was thinking about booking a test ride on a new one to compare hoping that the new one was a tame and easy to ride machine with the benefits of modern materials and design. I hope yours can be sorted out quickly
@@TheBlibo current BSA owners hate anyone telling the truth. The grief they’ve given me for showing these is epic. They’ll throw each other under the bus rather than let the truth out
They are a very nice looking bike for sure but somehow they just don’t carry it off as well as they Royal Enfield.
For me its a history thing. My Nan had a Norton, My Grandad a Triumph and my father a BSA. THe first photo he took with me was me (a baby) being held up by my father as he sat on his BSA. AH well, maybe I should have bought a classic BSA
@@MotoTingle I think it is a great looking bike.
@@fuglbird I removed the screen. Might replace it with a better quality one
Regarding the little screen on your motorcycle,the fixing legs go inside the headlight brackets.
@@SuperMatchless1 Yes they do! 100% it was installed by the previous owner. At the time I was hundreds of miles away from home so just wanted to adjust it upward. I’ve since removed it. I kinda liked the look but wanted just to get home, without messing with the bike too much. Thanks for your comment, as it helps others to see these mistakes. Cheers!
Did you manage to sort out this leakage problem and the wiring cutting out the ignition. I have a GS with about 1800 miles and no problems at all - brilliant bike.
@@timharley7599 Yes, the leaks were driving me mad, replaced coolant clip and had the oil can welded, wiring I left to the dealer but no new loom for me as I’m not in BSA’s good books, so denied. Follow up video to be edited. Crazy this next bit, had to trailer it away as the battery died while at the dealership and so couldn’t be ridden home. Seems battery warranty was 12 months only. I’m popping a nice new battery into the bike tomorrow
they come as standard with a good toolkit, but you have to borrow an allen key! Your bike has certainly had a number of previous owner mods, irrespective of its low miles. Good luck with what are minor niggles potentially caused by the first owners mods, but your post certainly attracts the haters. I've ridden mine on some atrocious roads this winter, gravel in the wet and find it very confidence inspiring. Its early days for the new brand. I wish them well, we're in a major recession here and the first batch all sold out quickly and the second batch. Will be interesting to see how they go in India where RE have fierce brand loyalty. You brits got the first ones and the company is making these bikes in tiny numbers until they establish into the bigger markets like India, North America and Australia. In NZ the dealers are very helpful. I also own some of the original ones from the fifties. Very happy with my BSA ownership.
@@BSAroadrocket Yeah, I borrowed a 5mm Allen key 🔑. Have you seen my latest video? It’s a quality motorcycle for sure. I can’t wait to sell it
You got it at a dealer, right? Is it under warranty? I'd take it in and let them do it, if you're not going to take it apart and see what is actually leaking. Or just carry coolant... I have a 2008 Kawasaki Nomad 1600 (Harley wannabe) and it leaks oil... I can fix it, I just haven't yet... letting it live it's best Harley life. Mine leaked coolant too but it appeared to just be a loose hose clamp. Does that BSA come with a toolkit? Carry tools, oil, and some coolant, and ride on!
My only oil pisser was an old 1976 sporty by AMF and assembly by two douchbags who put it together. The case leaked. However, of my 6 EVO sportsters and two big twins, none leaked at all. Harleys have been pretty dry since 1982. Even my old police harley was tight as a tuna. Oh, oh….I did have a tiny o-ring in the clutch cable on my 1993 883 deluxe which leaked a drop per season, but it wsn’t worth the effort to change it out when a single paper towel fixed it.
One thing that looks odd about the bike is the fuel tank appears to go uphill at the front !. Spoils the lines of an otherwise nice looking bike. ( apart from the leaks )
@@rogerwilliams2902 it’s quite a small tank to be fair, its borrowed from the Jawa 42. Is hope for the next generation they revise the tank and the petrol cap. It would really lift the bike
I would put a zip tie in the top of those panels, they are £78 I’m told and they can come off
@@WalterSherrington I love this idea! So, make a little hole in the mount and then pop a zip tie through. Very good. Turns out my bike is missing the circlips and rubbers! I contacted the previous owner and he says it’s always done this so many a mistake at production. I’ve ordered replacements but they are on back order. I’ll go with your zip tie suggestion!
You could probably fix it with some items from a hardware store.
It looks beautiful in front of the grape vines there, even if it is leaking coolant. 800 miles on the Odo, does that mean it is due for its first service after break in?
@@bigred8438 Yeah 👍
It’s under warranty so it should be sorted, if you bought it private make sure it has its health check.
This is a very common statement that "its under warranty". I think from an owner’s perspective, trying to achieve warranty is the issue. An example is my local dealer had over 4 weeks waiting just to get your bike into their workshop. And I am seeing even longer waiting times, its all multi franchise dealers but you’d think they would expand their workshops if they were so busy, so to test this, I booked in my sons Kawasaki. 7 days! That’s right Seven days and his Kawasaki is into exactly the same workshop. My BSA I get to wait a month. Seeing this mentioned online where workshops are prioritising their workload to favour whatever they like most. So today ill do a phone around and see if this is true for dealers further away. - Again, from an owners perspective, you have a fault (could happen to any brand) then you get an extended wait for warranty. Plus I was told this bike has had its recall but he didn’t have any paperwork as the dealerships are all putting it online. So now im "did he tell me the truth?", to be fair, he was a nice guy, hasn’t lied about anything else. I would like this ownership experience to improve, lets see how it goes
@MotoTingle There appears to be a problem with BSA and dealerships over warranty work regarding what BSA will pay for. Dealerships are therefore prioritising other work over BSA .
@@johnludmon7419 Ah, this explains it.
It’s like anything you buy you can get a bad one, it’s luck of the draw, it’s under warranty so take it back. I bought a 2004 Kawasaki zx10r, had to return it because of dodgy handlebars clamps and a recall for a front wheel but 20 years on the bike runs like it did from day one so no reason to pull a manufacturer down, it may take time to sort it but insure they will.
@@madbadger85 and that’s the problem. Try getting it into a BSA dealer first warranty. I’ve been waiting three weeks and I’ve still got two more weeks to wait, just to get it into the workshop. The reason? “We’re having trouble getting parts from BSA”. So I phoned Plymouth and they said “we’ve stepped away from BSA”. My next dealer is a two hour drive away and they can’t take it in for 3.5 weeks.
I like the bike but 😢 I don't want problems
It’s true, nobody wants problems. Check out the comments on this video as BSA owners ridicule me buying an 800mile bike. They are not a friendly crowd if you happen to show issues to the world. In other words, they ain’t got your back
It's a nice looking bike, but I think I would trade it in for a Royal Enfield. Maybe just a bad example.At least it takes on the mantle of an original Beezer, just leaks coolant instead of oil. Hope it gets sorted out though.
@@markbrennan4693 I want to sell mine as soon as it’s repaired under warranty. I’m still waiting to get it into the dealership. Then I’ll wait for repairs. I hope I don’t have to fight for warranty. Feels wrong owing a bike and people are pointing out it’s leaking. Debbie’s concrete, I still need to clean it up.
Sounds like you bought a second hand bike that may have been 'worked on' by the previous owner. Why did you not get a dealer to investigate before slagging of a good bike and also show the reason for the fluid excaping? Sounds like a dealer error on the 500 mile initial service. My Legacy model purchased new is still perfect after two years.
BSA Accepted Repaired ALL the issues as 'Manufacturing Defects' before my videos were released. My motorcycle has only ever been worked on my its supplying dealer. or BSA would have rejected the faults! So it begs the question, who is feeding you with false and misleading information?
Just to understand, you bought this bike from a private seller not a dealer? Also is it over a year old, because if not it would have still had breakdown recovery included. I hope it’s sorted soon and will be interested to know the prognosis
Yes, 12 months old and the guy was a real gent. Its like three days over the 12 month old so no RAC, but that’s good because RAC relay is an experience I can do without. Was stressful as I did all the right things. One owner, I did a HPI on it, full service, he told me its had the health check but didn’t provide any paperwork, when I asked him he said the dealers don’t give any paperwork as its not classed as a service. Which is fair as I had warranty recently on a different brand and was not given any paperwork. If anything I am pleased to be part of the BSA family. I am not going anywhere soon, and will do as you, help owners to achieve the best experience they can get out of their BSA’s - Because were a growing family, lets help owners and new owners know more about their bikes and hopefully enjoy the ride. Theres been too much of this "im alright Jack" with BSA owners, were a community and need to know more about the brand and the bikes. If theres an issue, other brand owners get to talk about it openly. and this video isnt to slag off BSA. Ive always wanted one since they first appeared at Motorcycle Live. Id like this bike to stay and for me to enjoy its presense in my life.
@@MotoTingle great attitude and I’m sure you will be riding further and longer into the winter months. It’s addictive.
@@LumpyCarbs Question, have you replaced your rear suspension?
@@MotoTingle yes I have, mainly cosmetic for TEC (found second hand) shrouded shocks. Minor improvement but don’t expect them to be very durable. Be aware shrouded shocks squeak!
@@LumpyCarbs see, this is super useful already. Thank you!
Imho the problem with Goldstar is that it's neither old school classic nor modern retro.
Water cooled Rotax has no character, and the massive radiator completely destroys the looks of a big bore 1960s single.
It's not home maintenance friendly and Triumph make better modern retros.
Royal Enfields with both the 350 and 650 have hit the classic old school retro nail on the head .
With just enough modern tech for reliability and easy riding but retaining soul and character.
Something the BSA totally misses
It’s an old engine by todays standards, BMW tried to technically improve it during their time with it, my feelings are this engine dirty’s it’s oil quickly and this in turn causes gear change issues for owners, it runs very lean, so needs a whopping big radiator to keep the cylinder cool.
the bmw f650 engine these are based off the coolant header tank was high up at the back of the bike ,looks like the coolant tank on these is lower than the engine wich is probably why it leaks coolant through expansion when hot then overflows out
BSA it seems is not doing very well with them it seems.
Spare parts not easy to get......discounting ticket prices.....all looking not to good to me.
I did hope BSA would do well with this Machine......Pity.
I’m part of the BSA family now, let’s see where this journey takes me. No free bike, my own money, real ownership.
shouldnt have been allowed that iconic brand for this poor build quality.
It should have been built in the UK where we have quality standards. I was checking out the Google reviews of the factory and one guy was saying his boss was drunk two days running. I guess my bike was built during his shift 😂
There you go assuming the red light will come ON if it does overheat😂
Hah! What a good point. I kept watching for the little red light too 😂😂😂
@@MotoTingle I don't like the idea of not having a temp gauge, what a stupid idea in my opinion, I owned a Fiat years ago that just had a red warning light, didn't feel that I could trust it.
A all to common occurrence on these, completely underwhelmed with the re-launch of this iconic bike its a shame
@@AlexSlater-s5e it’s going my head in. I bought a low mileage bike with full service. No way should this be happening.
I had a Real one year,s ago
My local dealer stopped selling them because they messed him about on 1st of Jan 24. It took BSA months to get another.
Audio needs some work
@@michaelrichards1799 It’s true, I didn’t bring my external mic 🎤 with me
Oil over filling ...may be the issue ....it is dry sump tank is in the side box
@@nithinhr538 I was very careful to check this. Once home and cleaned up, It looks like a hairline crack on the pressed steel back of the oil tank
As a GoldStar owner since March 23 I've had only a few minor irritations but it's the company that stink in my opinion, the way they deal with their dealer's and their customers leaves a lot to be desired. The discounting over the last few months has played havoc with second hand values, i paid 6800 for my version its got 275 miles on it and a Honda dealer offered me 2600 against a bike costing 9 grand. Nobody seems to want it.
Lukas Distribution offered to help, said they'd have it resolved quickly. They have not done anything to assist me, front of house its all "Contact us, were here to help" and behind the scenes its "explain your faults to your local dealer". I agree the bikes have little value in the trade. The only "value" is in the stories owners tell themselves about BSA heritage. The trade know these are made in a Jawa factory and have priced their PX value accordingly and correctly. I've never not shared photos with family and friends as a new bike enters my life, until now. I would like to sell this motorcycle and be done with it. For now, I just have to wait until its repaired.
Exactly how i feel, my bikes been OK so far, it's the company that stink.
If all this crap is common as you say then why did you buy it? Especially a used bike. I do not get it.If the side panels keep popping off how did you not notice it before you handed the cash over? When I buy a bike I am over the moon. Do your homework first. You should take someone along with you who knows what they are looking at. If the bike has cheap shite stuck on it that tells you all you need to know about the previous owner. Plenty of new deals right now and then you get a warranty. If it REALLY only has 800 miles then why was it being sold? Unfortunately sounds like you bought a right dog. Doesn't matter if it is new if the first owner was a butcher. If it's handling scares you why not test ride one first. Do not get this video at all.
Bike look nice but your review is of a second hand bike with 800 miles you say in your comment it has coolant leaks! this is the first time I seen this report by an owner. But you also go on about an after market chepo mini fairing being miss alighted fitting onto the headlight, this is do to another owner fitting capability and not BSA factory. Ive written this not to be rude to you but slagging of your bike is easy to do but you should include your bike is not new and have got issues because of other owners before you got it you say its annoying to have these issues with a low milage bike Its not BSA fault but the owners before you. Ive seen on low milage motorcycles before when the owner is not trained in motorcycle repairs This is the reason why you should buy from a dealer Then you have something to write about if you had the same problems Next time buy from a dealer and you should be a lot happier but then you will have to pay more.As for the side panels take your time and put them on properly and not with hard force again Ive seen it all before If you are not happy with it give it to a motorcycle mechanic to give it a PDI and not to a home mechanic not self taught person.Regards Andy Watts from Lowestoft
@@Andy588tt I hear you. BSA corrected the faults fully under warranty. NONE were caused by previous owner intervention. They were accepted as manufacturing defects way before the video went live. The tail tidy was fitted by the supplying dealer, the only part fitted by the previous owner was the front fly screen which I removed. I am unsure why anyone thinks the previous owner caused any of the issues apart from a poorly installed fly screen? I did include the bike is not new and had one owner. I like my Gold Star, another confusing thing I’ve heard is I dislike them, which is odd for someone who’s bought one 😂 I always buy stuff I dislike. Haha! It’s all good.
Best ??? Wait
It surely came with a warranty? Nothing worse than niggly faults, though. On the upside, it's a pretty bike, especially in those colours.
On the upside, again, I've got a 1998 BMW F650, and the rotax 650cc engine is super reliable, and it's the engine this BSA is based on. I've had no coolant or oil leaks or any faults in 5 years, so I think, perhaps, you've been a bit unlucky, here? However, roast the dealer and be firm and ask how they are going to make this up to you.
@@T-Bone54 It’s true, I’ve seen F650’s with 50,000+ miles. Yes it has warranty but achieving it is the issue. It takes close to 4 weeks to get a motorcycle into a dealer. That’s the real frustration
@@MotoTingle Oh, tell me about it. Often warranties are as good as the mood of the dealer and determination of the customer. It often seems as if the costs of the warranty are coming out of the salesman's own pocket, such is their reluctance to follow through.
A maxim I always follow in this regard is not to get angry, but to be the squeaky wheel that has to be oiled. Pester them, at first every couple of days, then every day, and if required morning and afternoon. It works.
They are messing you around with this 4 week nonsense, too. Imagine if you told them you'd take the bike but due to circumstances out of your control, couldn't pay them for 4 weeks?!
@@T-Bone54I’ll try other dealers
Right,,not good. I own a 43 year old suzuki GS 650G. No oil leaks no problem's go Japanese
@@johnmaltby8241 I’ve a 70’s Honda and it’s a peach 🍑 I think buying a modern bike should be be like this. I see all the BSA owners commenting that I bought second hand so it’s my fault. Explains why their bike have HUGE depreciation 😂 aww, mine too 😂😂😂
Year after year...It will be a pleasure to open TH-cam and finally not find any more adverts extolling this 470 lb imposter. The final Gold Star was the DBD 34.
@@jeremykeller211 who is 470 lb ? Does he have a Gold Star too?
gutted
You well regret buying that
Yes, things wend downhill rapidly
No such thing as a modern classic and if there was it wouldn't be that pile of shite😂😂
You bought a used motorcycle, deal with it!
I think the Indians replicated the original too closely.
If I know anything, they wanted production to be in Coventry 🇬🇧 but the tooling was diverted to India just after covidity. I’m thinking a lot of these issues are production faults. The director told me he put 10,000km on a prototype to ensure quality.
Lets be honest this bike is not a BSA Gold Star, it is a cheap, crappy, third world produced bucket of cachu. This pathetic replica must really suit the cheapskate wallets, anyone with any sense (especially those ageing nostalgia seeking wanabee's) should save a bit more of their pension and buy a "proper" bike. Maybe an easy first purchase, but don't kid yourselves, you will try hard to convince yourself you have a nice "new bike", bit your joy will soon become dulled when you try to part ex. even for another BSA or Royal Enfield replica, used prices of these pathetic counterfiets are falling like lead balloons in a bucket of water. The "assemblers" (for they are not makers) of these jokes can't even give it a proper tank badge.............
@@auldflyer it’s held on with double sided tape, the tank badge. Ask me how I know… cause one fell off
better off buying a 1950s bsa
Yeah 50s through to 71. And no coolant leaks. This is 1970 and really nice. And around 68mpg. The tank is Indian but Spitfire shape with Monza cap, over 200miles to get on reserve.
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