I bought a 2023 BSA Gold Star 650 - A Modern Classic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- I am supposed to be eating humble pie right about now, turns out my perfect purchase is causing me some slight stress increase by leaking coolant and oil.
Also having issues changing gear up from first to second, it just jumps into Neutral and stays there, it stalls at junctions, on cornering it feels like the injection system doesn't fire well, sometimes it starts, others it takes ages and cranks and cranks, I have had the battery go flat overnight. All faults reported to my local dealer who when I explained each issue the service rep had a little giggle over the phone at my expense, plus nearly a month in order to get the bike into their workshop, Great!
This does not mean I HATE the Gold Star, it has been a stressful start to our relationship I will admit.
I may need to realign my expectations of this modern classic.
Went to some effort to buy a good bike. One owner from new, full service history, low miles, HPI check, all the right things.
Arrived home soaked through (not the bikes fault) and during the wet ride it make me determined to look over this motorcycle and see if maybe its faults are caused during production.
This is the video I made on my first test ride of a BSA, things didn't go very well: • Things I hate about th...
How exactly is my first review and now ownership in such stark contrast to online influencers..?
So I thought i'd put my money where my mouth is and buy a BSA, then I can share my experience and eat some humble pie and enjoy the ride.
Maybe just daydreaming and should sell this motorcycle quickly.
I truly hope things will only get better after the warranty work as I am now part of the BSA family!
Anyways, this motorcycle has warranty, its all good...
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I’ve had mine 18 months without fault. I’m sorry to hear to have a leak yes there a few issues but you will only hear the bad bits I assure you there are lots of owners like me who have had no issues at all 😊tho I feel your pain. I Would feel the same myself but don’t get to depressed tomorrows a new day itl get sorted and it’s a lovely bike to ride despite any negative comments you will hear 😊😊😊
Al the best phil
@@-old-school-motorcyclesltd Thanks Phil. I really wanted this experience to be a positive one. I’ve don’t done how-to videos to enlighten new owners (coming soon). I wanted a Gold Star since seeing them at Motorcycle Live and talking to the director. He really wanted quality in each build. It’s a month before the dealership can take it in for repairs.
Is that supposed to make people feel better who have had troubles with their Gold Stars? I had lots of problems with mine and it is just not acceptable in this day and age. They were well overpriced when new. I got rid of mine before the prices dropped through the floor.
If you sell yours now you might get a lucky bag.
@@johnevans306 Please tell me I didn't buy your bike from you! Haha! OMG
Let's hope your ownership experience improves.
Good old Debbie. Making sure you went home with the right tool.
@@paulbudford I want it to improve. A four week wait for the dealer to take the bike in is a shame but I guess all dealers are busy. Tomorrow another day…
Wait for the owner rage 😂😂😂
Btw we should totally take our thumpers out, I'll bring lunch for the breakdown stop.
😂😂😂
There is no excuse for any manufacturer to produce a vehicle of any description that leaks. If it is common for this to happen it is just plain and simple shoddy design and not fit for purpose.
I have ridden a 59 dbd goldstar and was thinking about booking a test ride on a new one to compare hoping that the new one was a tame and easy to ride machine with the benefits of modern materials and design. I hope yours can be sorted out quickly
@@TheBlibo current BSA owners hate anyone telling the truth. The grief they’ve given me for showing these is epic. They’ll throw each other under the bus rather than let the truth out
A all to common occurrence on these, completely underwhelmed with the re-launch of this iconic bike its a shame
@@AlexSlater-s5e it’s going my head in. I bought a low mileage bike with full service. No way should this be happening.
I had a Real one year,s ago
My local dealer stopped selling them because they messed him about on 1st of Jan 24. It took BSA months to get another.
It’s like anything you buy you can get a bad one, it’s luck of the draw, it’s under warranty so take it back. I bought a 2004 Kawasaki zx10r, had to return it because of dodgy handlebars clamps and a recall for a front wheel but 20 years on the bike runs like it did from day one so no reason to pull a manufacturer down, it may take time to sort it but insure they will.
@@madbadger85 and that’s the problem. Try getting it into a BSA dealer first warranty. I’ve been waiting three weeks and I’ve still got two more weeks to wait, just to get it into the workshop. The reason? “We’re having trouble getting parts from BSA”. So I phoned Plymouth and they said “we’ve stepped away from BSA”. My next dealer is a two hour drive away and they can’t take it in for 3.5 weeks.
It's a nice looking bike, but I think I would trade it in for a Royal Enfield. Maybe just a bad example.At least it takes on the mantle of an original Beezer, just leaks coolant instead of oil. Hope it gets sorted out though.
@@markbrennan4693 I want to sell mine as soon as it’s repaired under warranty. I’m still waiting to get it into the dealership. Then I’ll wait for repairs. I hope I don’t have to fight for warranty. Feels wrong owing a bike and people are pointing out it’s leaking. Debbie’s concrete, I still need to clean it up.
I understand a number of the new Triumph 400 owners are experiencing many different problems too. Makes you wonder if you should always wait a couple of years before buying a newly launched model.
What I noticed was Triumph owners all working together and supporting one another. This BSA lot are all Toxic. Well now they have me to contend with 😂
Yep, NEVER buy a new to the market vehicle, customers are the real long term testers of it.
@@steveclark.. Thats me, crash test dummy. Only I waited until everone said the troubles were over! Haha!
they come as standard with a good toolkit, but you have to borrow an allen key! Your bike has certainly had a number of previous owner mods, irrespective of its low miles. Good luck with what are minor niggles potentially caused by the first owners mods, but your post certainly attracts the haters. I've ridden mine on some atrocious roads this winter, gravel in the wet and find it very confidence inspiring. Its early days for the new brand. I wish them well, we're in a major recession here and the first batch all sold out quickly and the second batch. Will be interesting to see how they go in India where RE have fierce brand loyalty. You brits got the first ones and the company is making these bikes in tiny numbers until they establish into the bigger markets like India, North America and Australia. In NZ the dealers are very helpful. I also own some of the original ones from the fifties. Very happy with my BSA ownership.
@@BSAroadrocket Yeah, I borrowed a 5mm Allen key 🔑. Have you seen my latest video? It’s a quality motorcycle for sure. I can’t wait to sell it
They are a very nice looking bike for sure but somehow they just don’t carry it off as well as they Royal Enfield.
For me its a history thing. My Nan had a Norton, My Grandad a Triumph and my father a BSA. THe first photo he took with me was me (a baby) being held up by my father as he sat on his BSA. AH well, maybe I should have bought a classic BSA
I live a few minutes walk from a BSA dealer, l have never seen one on the road yet!
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 They are out there, many in garages for old boy eye candy.
Well, the first owner got rid pretty quickly.
@@jez6208 Yes, he seemed like a nice guy too.
Regarding the little screen on your motorcycle,the fixing legs go inside the headlight brackets.
@@SuperMatchless1 Yes they do! 100% it was installed by the previous owner. At the time I was hundreds of miles away from home so just wanted to adjust it upward. I’ve since removed it. I kinda liked the look but wanted just to get home, without messing with the bike too much. Thanks for your comment, as it helps others to see these mistakes. Cheers!
I love my BSA GS 650 after 6000 miles. If the bike is leaking fluids and it has had the health check, sounds like a dealer error. The washer on the reserve oil tank may not have been replaced/nipped up properly. Coolant leak sounds odd, but may be from the same service issue. My bike handles well,if a little slow steering, check tyre pressures and crank up the preload on rear shocks to suit your riding.
Hi Bill. This perfectly encapsulates what I am meeting with owners, their bikes are okay, perfect and trouble free. But for the rest of us we have defects in the machines. We have extended wait times for warranty and extended wait times on parts that are on back order. - I did check the oil tank O-ring on mine as its a known issue. What I am seeing is a percentage of bikes that are produced badly, so if it were a confectionary bar, how many defective chocolate bars does it take to do a recall? One in five? One in five hundred? - Its a logistical nightmare for BSA I am sure. I suspect this isn’t the end of my troubles as the bike had been off the road now since i got it home with an even bigger issue which i am editing, plus I have been sure to show owners what to look for before their bike succumbs to the exact same fault. - I really wish this BSA was reliable like yours.
Your screen has been put on wrong. It should have the brackets mounted within headlight . Have you checked the 22mm bolt on back of the engine, they are prone to be loose and the oil leaks down the side stand onto the floor. Make sure the dealer you bought it from has done the health check.
@@jacko123 Yes, previous owner added the screen. Now removed. I did chuckle when I saw how out of alignment it was. Didnt want to leave it at Debbies, not my job to fill her home with junk. So took it home, removed it, recycled it.
I like the bike but 😢 I don't want problems
It’s true, nobody wants problems. Check out the comments on this video as BSA owners ridicule me buying an 800mile bike. They are not a friendly crowd if you happen to show issues to the world. In other words, they ain’t got your back
It’s under warranty so it should be sorted, if you bought it private make sure it has its health check.
This is a very common statement that "its under warranty". I think from an owner’s perspective, trying to achieve warranty is the issue. An example is my local dealer had over 4 weeks waiting just to get your bike into their workshop. And I am seeing even longer waiting times, its all multi franchise dealers but you’d think they would expand their workshops if they were so busy, so to test this, I booked in my sons Kawasaki. 7 days! That’s right Seven days and his Kawasaki is into exactly the same workshop. My BSA I get to wait a month. Seeing this mentioned online where workshops are prioritising their workload to favour whatever they like most. So today ill do a phone around and see if this is true for dealers further away. - Again, from an owners perspective, you have a fault (could happen to any brand) then you get an extended wait for warranty. Plus I was told this bike has had its recall but he didn’t have any paperwork as the dealerships are all putting it online. So now im "did he tell me the truth?", to be fair, he was a nice guy, hasn’t lied about anything else. I would like this ownership experience to improve, lets see how it goes
@MotoTingle There appears to be a problem with BSA and dealerships over warranty work regarding what BSA will pay for. Dealerships are therefore prioritising other work over BSA .
@@johnludmon7419 Ah, this explains it.
I would put a zip tie in the top of those panels, they are £78 I’m told and they can come off
@@WalterSherrington I love this idea! So, make a little hole in the mount and then pop a zip tie through. Very good. Turns out my bike is missing the circlips and rubbers! I contacted the previous owner and he says it’s always done this so many a mistake at production. I’ve ordered replacements but they are on back order. I’ll go with your zip tie suggestion!
BSA it seems is not doing very well with them it seems.
Spare parts not easy to get......discounting ticket prices.....all looking not to good to me.
I did hope BSA would do well with this Machine......Pity.
I’m part of the BSA family now, let’s see where this journey takes me. No free bike, my own money, real ownership.
There you go assuming the red light will come ON if it does overheat😂
Hah! What a good point. I kept watching for the little red light too 😂😂😂
@@MotoTingle I don't like the idea of not having a temp gauge, what a stupid idea in my opinion, I owned a Fiat years ago that just had a red warning light, didn't feel that I could trust it.
Oil over filling ...may be the issue ....it is dry sump tank is in the side box
@@nithinhr538 I was very careful to check this. Once home and cleaned up, It looks like a hairline crack on the pressed steel back of the oil tank
Right,,not good. I own a 43 year old suzuki GS 650G. No oil leaks no problem's go Japanese
@@johnmaltby8241 I’ve a 70’s Honda and it’s a peach 🍑 I think buying a modern bike should be be like this. I see all the BSA owners commenting that I bought second hand so it’s my fault. Explains why their bike have HUGE depreciation 😂 aww, mine too 😂😂😂
gutted
Just to understand, you bought this bike from a private seller not a dealer? Also is it over a year old, because if not it would have still had breakdown recovery included. I hope it’s sorted soon and will be interested to know the prognosis
Yes, 12 months old and the guy was a real gent. Its like three days over the 12 month old so no RAC, but that’s good because RAC relay is an experience I can do without. Was stressful as I did all the right things. One owner, I did a HPI on it, full service, he told me its had the health check but didn’t provide any paperwork, when I asked him he said the dealers don’t give any paperwork as its not classed as a service. Which is fair as I had warranty recently on a different brand and was not given any paperwork. If anything I am pleased to be part of the BSA family. I am not going anywhere soon, and will do as you, help owners to achieve the best experience they can get out of their BSA’s - Because were a growing family, lets help owners and new owners know more about their bikes and hopefully enjoy the ride. Theres been too much of this "im alright Jack" with BSA owners, were a community and need to know more about the brand and the bikes. If theres an issue, other brand owners get to talk about it openly. and this video isnt to slag off BSA. Ive always wanted one since they first appeared at Motorcycle Live. Id like this bike to stay and for me to enjoy its presense in my life.
@@MotoTingle great attitude and I’m sure you will be riding further and longer into the winter months. It’s addictive.
@@LumpyCarbs Question, have you replaced your rear suspension?
@@MotoTingle yes I have, mainly cosmetic for TEC (found second hand) shrouded shocks. Minor improvement but don’t expect them to be very durable. Be aware shrouded shocks squeak!
@@LumpyCarbs see, this is super useful already. Thank you!
Audio needs some work
@@michaelrichards1799 It’s true, I didn’t bring my external mic 🎤 with me
It surely came with a warranty? Nothing worse than niggly faults, though. On the upside, it's a pretty bike, especially in those colours.
On the upside, again, I've got a 1998 BMW F650, and the rotax 650cc engine is super reliable, and it's the engine this BSA is based on. I've had no coolant or oil leaks or any faults in 5 years, so I think, perhaps, you've been a bit unlucky, here? However, roast the dealer and be firm and ask how they are going to make this up to you.
@@T-Bone54 It’s true, I’ve seen F650’s with 50,000+ miles. Yes it has warranty but achieving it is the issue. It takes close to 4 weeks to get a motorcycle into a dealer. That’s the real frustration
@@MotoTingle Oh, tell me about it. Often warranties are as good as the mood of the dealer and determination of the customer. It often seems as if the costs of the warranty are coming out of the salesman's own pocket, such is their reluctance to follow through.
A maxim I always follow in this regard is not to get angry, but to be the squeaky wheel that has to be oiled. Pester them, at first every couple of days, then every day, and if required morning and afternoon. It works.
They are messing you around with this 4 week nonsense, too. Imagine if you told them you'd take the bike but due to circumstances out of your control, couldn't pay them for 4 weeks?!
@@T-Bone54I’ll try other dealers
As a GoldStar owner since March 23 I've had only a few minor irritations but it's the company that stink in my opinion, the way they deal with their dealer's and their customers leaves a lot to be desired. The discounting over the last few months has played havoc with second hand values, i paid 6800 for my version its got 275 miles on it and a Honda dealer offered me 2600 against a bike costing 9 grand. Nobody seems to want it.
Lukas Distribution offered to help, said they'd have it resolved quickly. They have not done anything to assist me, front of house its all "Contact us, were here to help" and behind the scenes its "explain your faults to your local dealer". I agree the bikes have little value in the trade. The only "value" is in the stories owners tell themselves about BSA heritage. The trade know these are made in a Jawa factory and have priced their PX value accordingly and correctly. I've never not shared photos with family and friends as a new bike enters my life, until now. I would like to sell this motorcycle and be done with it. For now, I just have to wait until its repaired.
Exactly how i feel, my bikes been OK so far, it's the company that stink.
I think the Indians replicated the original too closely.
If I know anything, they wanted production to be in Coventry 🇬🇧 but the tooling was diverted to India just after covidity. I’m thinking a lot of these issues are production faults. The director told me he put 10,000km on a prototype to ensure quality.