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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2012
- I have decided to upgrade the Ibanez RG Premium 870QMz with Dimarzio Air Norton at the neck & Tone Zone at the bridge. This is how they sound differently. All the settings are consistent on both before and after. The only thing that is not very consistent is my playing. I have done the soldering work myself for the first time in my life so it could sound better if it were done by professional guitar tech.
For those who commented about the Air Norton direction. I installed it the same way as those guitars that Ibanez have it preinstalled on all of their guitars.
For example, this J Custom www.ibanez.co.jp/products/u_eg...
and another one www.ibanez.co.jp/products/u_eg... - เพลง
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dam I don't hear the significant difference
Me neither. it's either impossible to tell due to soundquality of videeo or the upgrade wasent worth the effort.
@@sorbpen likely the quality of the recording. Check other videos of the same pickup's.. You'll hear a difference then.
ibanez stock pickups are amazing, as far as cheap proprietaries go anyway
same goes for bass
Dimarzio has much warmer sound, stock pickup sharp like samurai sword, Dimarzio like serpent knife:) Erick Johnson should be glad for this replcement;)
I have exactly the same one, & im lovin the stock pick-ups.
after watching many videos with before after pick up shootout,I have to admit that ibanez's stock pickups sound amazing .
Wow that's a really huge difference, when you put in the distortion! But almost the same on clean sound.
Thanks for sharing. I guess people at Dimarzio and people at Ibanez have different opinions. I looked at all Ibanez guitars that have Air Norton preinstalled and found that all of them have the screw polepieces facing the neck. I'll put the link to the pictures from Ibanez website in the video description.
The stock pups sound very nice to me
You never know until you tried it. I have upgraded a few and I have never been disappointed. Good luck.
You summed it up very nicely. Thanks!
Dimarzio pickups sounds better, but stock pickups are not bad.
sounds good dude this combo comes in an ibanez i plan on trying out
Dude I like your playing style, it's Petrucci-like, but I like it very much because you've got your own character. I wish I could play that well, keep uploading! :D
The song he was playing during the distortion segment is "Still Hurts" by Marco Sfogli.
The middle pup is the original which I don't even know the name. I didn't use it in the video though.
Where is the 'Reply' link!
that air norton gave me goosebumps. \m/
At 1:33 you hear the DiMarzio’s shine! Clarity on the top strings is a massive improvement - I’ll be making the same switch soon
There is a difference...i love dimarzios but i prefer the stocks in this guitar. Sounds brighter
Yes, from the video it's not remarkably different, but when you actually play it, you can really tell it's significantly different. I didn't really have to squeeze it so hard to play the same licks as it was before.
there is quite some difference but not tonally but harmonic-wise... and i guess the biggest difference is notable when playing the guitar and getting the feel for them.
i have always found that i play different and sound different with other pickups although the sound didn`t change that much...
nice upgrade
Man, I love that purple color!
I vote for the stock pickups. try out some differant tube amps. I found a 90s rivera knucklehead I really like but my biggest focus is on cleaner sounds. I have a fender super champ x2 I like also.
i did the same upgrade on the same guitar and one true velvet in the mid pos.
stock pickups sound like they have a little more high end and the Dimarzio' s sound fatter to me. Depends on what sound your looking for. I was going to replace the stock Inf pickups in my RG470, but I think I'll keep them now. Thanks!
I'll also note that of course Dimarzio's do sound different by model as well, it's a personal preference. I imagine that the AT1 and Cruiser sound awesome. :)
Probably not store setup cause I've changed the pickups, change strings, adjust the trem, and the truss rod. However, I never measure the action. I adjusted and just feel it.
I have one, and to be honest before getting it I was planning on swapping the stock pickups but they actually sound amazing
Thanks for the comment. Yes, I would love to properly record with mic.
There are too many things I wanted to do and learn. :)
I almost forgot. I actually had TC Electronics' Flashback Delay in the amp fx loop and that was it.
I don't really like the Edge Zero 2 but it does stay in tune quite ok.
I looked at how J Custom & RG3550z Prestige have Air Norton & Tone Zone installed and I followed the same direction. The color would not impact the sound.
The intro was DT material but I don't know what song. Nice playing bro. That tone zone is pretty beast and the air norton is actually a great pickup. It sounded a bit funny on clean but with the distortion, it really shined. Great playing by the way
On the backs of angels
I've tried to change for Dimarzio ToneZone, Dominion, and D Activator, but for me that guitar sounds best on stock. ;)
Thanks for the comment!
Yes, stick with what you like is the best.
I have great ears and they sound close to me. Especially when he is just strumming. I can definitely tell a difference in the single notes. Keep in mind though that you are switching out Dimarzio's for Dimarzio's. The RG premiums come with Dimarzio made pickups already, not cheapo stock stuff.
I'm not sure. In fact, I never measure and I don't even know how to measure the action. Can you share?
I was trying to play a part of Still hurt by Marco Sfogli
There should be a more pronounced difference, I believe some direct comparison into a clean channel of an amp would perhaps have revealed more. Anyway, if the stocks are CAP-VM, those should be at least on par with Dimarzio/IBZ, which are really really good stock pickups. Not really worth upgrading unless you want something wildly specific from the pups. You can tailor the sound using preamp/effects/eqs and cab/cabsim.
The Tonezone sounds unusually bright at times IMHO - although you can easily recognize it by its mid fatness.
certainly sounds better with the dimarzio pickups much fuller sound i think quick question what is your guitar action set to?
ideally you want an action e.g the distance the string are from the frets to be low enough to play comfortable while being high enough so you get a good tone and at best no fret buzz
sure im in australia so i use milimetres, i generally like fairly low action so around 2-2.5mm on the low 6 string i downtune though so i need it 2.5 usually, and about 1.2-1.5mm on the high e. im getting your guitar is a store setup?
what licks did you play? it sounded good man
Absolutely!
Yes, it definitely added more low end and more sustain. It has been a while so I can't remember exactly how it was before now.
Thanks for watching.
what are the songs demo'd?
Stock sound good, as many others have pointed out. But put this in a band mix and the Dimarzios will jump out as a good upgrade imo
I hear a richer sound coming out of stock pickups but only by a faint margin.
i have crappy connection so i'm not going to switch to 1080 like i should, but i will say the stock pickups sound surprisingly good. yeah the replacements beat em out; nothing like that classic DiMarzio combo, but still, props to DiMarzio for making decent copies of (i'm pretty sure) probably the same pup set.
Does this guitar pick up fingerprints and dust a lot?
I didn't know I have my own character but thanks for the compliment! :)
I presume it's Tone Zone (bridge) and Air Norton (neck)? Obviously the F Spaced versions. I've gone for the same pickups but non F Spaced types as I've a Tokai Love Rock and I've also bought coil tap tone pots.. So I can in effect turn my guitar into a 5 way pickup option :).
what were you playing through?
i THINK you're supposed to install zebras "mirrored" instead of the creme facing the same direction... you might have one pickup facing backwards
whats that middle pup?
Could you tell me exactly Where? because I've been looking on ebay and i cuoldn't find a dealer with those pickups that ships internationally. Thanks for your answer :)
He's not refering to the color, he's refering to one pickup might be backwards. Were the leads both on the same side when you installed? This will impact the tone greatly. Congrats on the guitar, I'm getting the maple rdt version soon.
Stock pickups sound better
I have this exact guitar and am just about to upgrade the pups. It is so freaking hard to decide!!
Christopher McManus I put Dimarizo Illuminator's in mine. Also Dimarizo Transitions are good for a warmer or bluesy tone
What pedal are you using with Blackstar? is beautiful sound!!
I see that you are from thailand, can you please tell me where did you buy the dimarzion in zebra?
What scales are you using at the 1:40 minute mark (if they're from a dt song, which one)
I found the tone zone sounds best with a 1 meg volume pot and no tone pot hooked up.
What distortion are you using? is it a pedal or an amp's?
The stock pickups do a better job of covering up mistakes but in the same way don't allow everything about the playing come thru. The DiMarzios would let more nuance come out and fast playing would be easier to hear and follow.
I wish I could made up something that sweet myself. It's actually come from Marco Sfogli's Still Hurt. If you listen to the original, you will know that what I played was not even close. lol
I possibly want to make this same upgrade in my RG Prestige 2570mz. Is it worth it? I don't have money to waste.
It's HT-5R head with Mesa Rectifier 2x12 cab
IMHO stock pickups sounded better
you should do something with recording bro. It's hardly clipped
ahh fair enough get any fret buzz or does the action feel high/low or just in the middle? e.g.
How did you wire these the ibanez 3 wire pickups to the dimarzios are throwing me off I have not tried yet but not quiet sure how I should be running the dimarzio leads? Any tips on how you wired it
It has been too long so I can't remember now but I must have looked it up from Dimarzio website. I have already sold the guitar so I can't look it up for you sorry. Thanks for watching though.
is that a delay pedal?
Nice playing and Tone... How did you install the pickups? are they direct mounted? Did you use the existing screws? Thanks... :)
It has been so many years but I'm pretty sure nothing fancy. I used the existing springs and screws. Thanks for watching!
No pedal. I plugged the guitars straight to the amp. Thanks!
You’re so damn good I didn’t hear a difference
to me the upgrade was well worth it. I know this is an older vid but cool comparison. What was the stock? IBZ or a V version?
I think they are CAP-VM pickups. Thanks for watching!
ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/RG870QMZ
What amp are you using? Blackstar right? Which one? :)
I tried to play On the Back of Angels intro. Thanks for watching.
nice play bro. is this from some kind of song or interprete? or was this improvised ? thumbs up
dream theater, on the backs of angels
Thanks!
What was your signal chain in this vid? (ie amp, pedals, etc..)
Amplifier: Blackstar HT-5R Head with Mesa Boogie Rectifier 2x12 Cab. All guitars were plugged straight to the input of the Blackstar.
Effects: TC Electronics Flashback Delay and TC Electronics Dreamscape connected to Efx Loop of the Blackstar
I have the same RG. Looking to upgrade my pups. What would you recommend for progressive metal (not djent or heavy metal). Air norton / TZ combo, or D activators, Liquidfire or something else? I heard a bit of Marco in there.. great stuff thanks.
follow DoMarzio's advice on their website they link which pickups pair well together. Ie the Tone Zone *bridge* pairs well with a Air Norton *neck* or a Air Classic Bridge *neck* or an Air Norton *bridge*.
@@LFC-Star thanks I sold the guitar many years ago. I do have another guitar with TZ AN and they are good. My current fav dimarzios are the illuminators in my JP and Gravity Storms in a Jem.
Blackstar HT-5R head with Mesa Rectifier cab 2x12
What amp are you using?
Nice demo - thanks mate !
Do you feel this DiMarzio added more low end and less harsh top end to your tone ?
The Tone Zone sounded fuller to me..
to me it is noticeable that the dimarzio is clearer hands down, the stock has the sound echoing everywhere and any sustained note vanishes in precision. the stock doesn't lose in volume though and that is where maybe most people prefer the stock maybe... at the end the dimarzio has a more accurate and compressed sound aiming at sustain, accuracy and precision.
try to record in studio with the stock pickups and the dimarzio ones and the difference will be much more obvious. for the one playing it makes all the difference!
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A bit more clarity on DiMarzio. I'm amazed. So Ibanez made their stock pickup based on DiMarzio. I'm pretty sure the sound difference would be much more obvious if you were replacing them with Seymour Duncan PU, or Bare Knuckle, for instance.
Plot twist: the tone is in your fingers.
Stupid me, most Premium Ibanez come in Dimarzio/Ibz PU which of course should come close with the original Dimarzio. Hence, the 'no difference' of which some comments posted earlier...
But then again, the tone is in your fingers.
Hello, how is it stay in tune when you use tremolo ? Mine is still going out of tune when I use it and I set it properly.
It stayed it tuned quite ok for me. After a while, it will eventually go out of tune no matter what. That's why they still come up with new tuners. :) Thanks for watching.
jem555bkk Thanks for answer man. What about difference in sound between stock and dimarzio pickups. Here in video I hear difference, but in your opinion is it minor or major upgrade ?
Blackstar HT-5R head and Mesa Boogie Recto 2x12 Cab
is that a solo you made up? (the last comparison part) cuz it sounds fuckin sweet lol
You already had a relatively high-end Ibanez with oxygen-free copper coil pickups (CAP-VM series pickups). There wasn't any need to waste money on DiMarzio pups. Ibanez has been voicing its pickups as DiMarzio clones since their work with Steve Vai in the 80's, but you had the best clones yet... Lol! ;D
what is the song on the beginning ?
dream theater yes... but which song ?
On the backs of angels
Thanks man
I actually ordered them from the US.
I think it was either musicianfriends or guitarcenter
BTW Please view in HD if you can. Otherwise, it's difficult to tell the difference.
bro did you use f-spaced or just a regular?
F-space it was. Thanks for watching!
This is how pickups comparison properly done. Before and after upgrade.
still hurts ? :D
Basically it 90 percent sounds the same.. It doesn't matter if you replaced the pickup or not really...