On guilt and its relation to the ego | J. Krishnamurti
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Ojai 1985 - Question #1 from Question and Answer Meeting #1
'Can you explore further into the mechanism of guilt and its relation to the ego?'
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oh man I wonder what his reaction would have been to you calling him by that name XD
@@travisphelps6694 many people used to call him by that name, almost everyone
*grateful.
JK: As long as you have problems, you must have the feeling you must resolve them and if you can't resolve them, you feel guilty.
...yes, sometimes when Im in that place, I feel like trash and I want to dissapear cause my existence seem so poorly develop, like if I had barely a chance to "get better".
Guilt is coming from Ego!!guilt and ego is one thing!!as we grown up with conditioned mind we create the problem of guilt in our life!!so the relation is that these two , are one thing and not separated!!
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Such a clarity! Love 'K'!
I am so grateful for the love K gives.
Ego, polluted mind, impure heart, attachments, desires are the greatest hurdle to realization.
what is to realize??
Dhiraj Kore contentment
Thinking there are hurdles is the greatest hurdle
@@jackgriffiths3861 hahaha yes
When problem stops
Necessity for the /for the solution stops.
Implies
Problem is The Rational Cause of Life () .
K has dedicated his whole life, but nothing changes!
If something changes, there's no question of change!
Happy birthday 🌼🙏🏽🌼
Awesome
Super man.
Thank you so very much for posting. Keep posting.
Eggo? Hmmm? lol I didn't expect that but it makes perfect sense. 'Leggo my Eggo' lol
this should be the top comment
Most listen, and a few ‘choose’ to HEAR.
Means?
It's the other way around, but I agree either way! 👏🏼
There is no process for quantifying that so your expression is invalid
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how to realize
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It sounds good in theory. In practice, it's another story.
That is why they say it is hard to change as a human! but if you listen and put in the work you are always changing!
can you please add subtitles ?
I don’t know why the talk didn’t have subtitle understand better please !!
I guess he is saying many problems come from "overthinking". But that is not the only source of guilt. Guilt is a type of regret. Even primitive people probably feel regret and perhaps fear of a negative outcome.
I agree ,im living that type of guilt, pure torture.
If you push through with action, substituting action towards something productive (whether internally or externally) instead of ruminating, you can by force of will rewrite the past which you regret. Since the past memory only exists in your body which can get triggered to be brought up at every given interval of time, so too you can overwrite it.
But then it just becomes a matter of how much you want to overwrite it. If getting over it isn’t that big of a deal to you, you’ll remain guilty and regretful because that’s what you want and choose.
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Pleas provide the subtitles of every videos...... Because it becomes difficult to understand his accent...
I feel like the audience at one point felt guilty for not wanting to feel guilty lol
Loool
It would be nice if he explained where he got his ideas, perhaps also used some concrete examples.
Thats the amazing thing about K. These are NO Ideas, means something he learned from someone other, stored as memory and repeat or forming an idea out of that (like/dislike), as most people do out of our conditioning. He only deals with facts. It comes out of this intelligence, through total attention to the problem, observing, then there is insight. Thats why he is capable of answering the most complex questions thrown at him on the spot. Thats the difference between intellect and intelligence.
@@normanw.5725 True
Where is the complete video , can anybody tell me?
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We are all guilty since we are all condemned to death... sort that one out and the question is solved.
@Armenias Thunk Sorry but your convoluted answer makes no sense at all to me.
There is no confusion whatsoever regarding the fact of death in whichever context you wish to place it whether you are referring to "biological death", "psychological death" or whatever as they are essentially the same thing. The fact is: we all have to die and death has been used forever to punish the guilty, whether biologically through capital punishment or psychologically and socially either through banishment, marginalisation or imprisonment. Thus, existential guilt is impossible to resolve unless one understands fully what death is. Please read (at least) "The Denial of Death" (Ernest Becker), "Up From Eden" (Ken Wilber), etc., for further insights.
The confusion arises when humans try to solve the problem of death through material means which has been going on for a very long time as evidenced by the temple complex of Göbleki Tepe that was the focal point of a skull cult as well as the first known building ever erected by human beings when we were still hunter-gatherers, thus predating agriculture and civilisation by a long shot. The rest is history, as they say, and some 12 000 years later, we are still grappling with the same initial problem since, at bottom, all civilisations are nothing more than a succession of failed death-denial exercises offering different flavours of pseudo redemption and fake ways to resolve guilt either through religions, virtue, work, war or the proverbial scapegoat among other well-known techniques.
Basically, the question of death and the guilt complex that ensues can never be understood and/or solved through substitutes or material means even if one is a high income adept of trans-humanism.
Gabor Mate
Julian2Sounds, And many more!
'the seeds are growing'
His work is very helpful.
It'd be so disorienting to be in his audience..........
Jiddu: "Join in, you must play along"
Audience: "I have a question, what about...?"
Jiddu: "You must wait, do not be too eager. Where was I...?"
He's adorable haha XD
Disorienting for the logic of 'me'.
He asked you, to walk next to him, not in front.:-)
Right, but the their questions we're already answered in the answer he gave! /Parts as whole/ The one guy had a good question about guilt different kinds of, and he kindly included that in this guilt and ego. Are one in the same illustration" . He wants them to look at it more deeply before entering their input! 😁✌
@@mikewright902 , you are right Mike.
And for James Buckie, if you follow the talk, just discover for yourself what your brain comes up with, it is very eager to answer before finding the root of the problem.
And it is not the 'answer' (out of a mechanistic brain) what is needed here, but instead the 'solution' ( out of the root ) which by seeing it yourself will evaporate for you.
The mind, and also yours, will trow 'balls' at the problem, hoping to fit as an attachment to it, like a little kid, hoping the give the right answer when the teacher asks.
But that is no solution.
Solutions happen to be, when the fact is 'seen' totally..in your brain, and only by you yourself.
That's why, K does ask you to 'walk' with him, together putting the question with him and not wander away or follow, not take a run or jump over.
The time and attention he gave to you, again and again, did come from Love itself.
Okay? :-)
This idea of questioning is very important. Our tendency seems to jump into solving things when we have an issue-a difficult feeling. We don’t seem to find out what the question is. It is more- how do I get rid of this feeling? Reminding ourselves to question might be a start. I have heard the term functional questions that don’t come logically-more intuitively. We ask others what is going on? Do we ask ourselves?
Buddha Talking
Whenever he says 'ego,' I can't help but think about waffles...
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hahaha
If only you were serious enough to realize what he is saying
@@HOurWrld999 oh shut it
Tasty
In telugu
Karma punarjanmaki hethuvu.
He was talking about confession, and said this is when you start to feel guilty and the circus begins, and then he apologized for using the word circus because he felt guilty😶 sorry not sorry for pointing this out. Should I ?
I dont think he was feeling guilty, rather apologizing in case that offended anyone.
You just look at the video at the end then and there’s nobody left in the audience, just one man coughing haha.