Really wish Bethesda would use the betas system on steam, they could let you go back to different versions of the game with a mouseclick and bring it back, some games I play do that, (Stellaris mainly), and it is so nice to not have to break all the old saves with every update.
It's a pain in the ass, but there's ways to download previous versions. I'm doing it right now, following this tutorial on Nexus "Guide - How to rollback your Skyrim - Manifest not available fix".
Only person who actually explains how to prevent disaster instead of causing drama. This is how this kind of videos should be done. Worth sharing with any person new to Skyrim modding. You are the best, Gopher.
Oh yeah, that constant fear of accidently hitting play on steam skyrim... I have the game unlisted from the steam library at all times for that reason for many years now😁
Thank you for this Gopher. Glad I watched as this is the 3rd time I have modded Skyrim and I finally have it working perfectly, so I don't want it messed up lol.
There's a pretty easy way for Bethesda to resolve this situation: All they have to do is split SSE and AE into two clients/folders and bundle them together, such that owners of SSE get AE, and owners of AE get SSE.
It has nothing to do with the CC content. It has everything to do with the new engine and graphics update. In my opinion that is totally okay because it needed it anyway but it breaks graphics and engine (60 FPS for example) mods. It also breaks survival mods like iNeed and Wet/Cold. I am by no means disregarding the hard work of the modding community in these areas I mentioned because I dearly appreciate them for their creativity and creating mods. I sincerely hope they update their mods to the new graphic engine so I can play.
@@quandaledingle7812 This is why I'm confused. How many people play vanilla skyrim? As i imagine they are the only people that feel the game needs additions. Most of us perfected our load order years ago and have slowly been making the game exactly how we want it. Now this? It makes no sense but beth could do anything at this point and it wouldn't surprise me, pretty dead company
@@d3anims97 It's not usually the texture sizes that affect performance. As for fans, make sure they aren't stock fans. Stock laptop fans are practically useless, zero to no airflow and they only accumulate dust. I'm not sure about modern systems if i'm being honest, but all my past laptops literally didn't even need fans. A gaming laptop, yeah it's gonna need fans, but a potato laptop likely won't need them.
I'm already dreading the AE update. Yes I have my game set to not update in steam and pretty much will 'freeze' what I have downloaded in Mod Organizer 2 until one day we maybe get an upgraded SKSE but it feels like we are starting over from square one again with Skyrim Special Edition. I was a really early adopter of SSE before SKSE was finished and I released a few mods on Nexus to support SSE. Now I'm gunna have to worry about if/when they need to be updated for AE but I don't want to lose all the SKSE features pre-AE so I cant update my game or the CK (if the CK gets updated with AE) so it might be a very annoying waiting game ... We're gunna have like 2 types of mods in the SSE Nexus pool, pre-AE and post-AE and its going to be really confusing for users to figure out which is which and I can see people downloading the wrong thing and wondering why its not working.
Out of curiosity, how many people are even interested in the Anniversary Edition. When Special Edition was released there was enough of an incentive to upgrade to it, and even then many did not. But at this point in Skyrim's development life I don't see what they're adding to AE that makes it worth having. If you're playing a modded Skyrim you probably have the game you want, and if you're not playing a modded Skyrim then the risk to mods doesn't really matter. Maybe I'm missing something.
I only care about mods. If they aren't gonna improve mod compatibility somehow, then there is literally zero reason for me to buy another Skyrim. Already purchased Skyrim TWICE, and now I'm using my friend's library for SSE without buying it. AE from what I heard so far is just not gonna be mod-friendly and the devs dont care about mods. If that's true, there is absolutely zero reason for modders to update their game. If I weren't using mods, I probably wouldn't bother with the paid update either. I seriously doubt it offers enough new content to justify whatever insane pricing the update is going to have. (Keep in mind that mods are FREE. You're objectively wasting money if they're just gonna unleash a normal update with "a bit" of content)
I decided to pass on this when the details came out. I'd rather play SE with the mods I like, nothing in AE sounded like it was of interest to me. Until of course the mods are available for it later, then I could prolly justify it.
@@TechSupportDave They can update the mods. They just have to critique it to the new Skyrim update. In a way it is a improvement to the mod community because the graphics are better but it just needs to be updated. It runs on 60 fps now
It's frustrating that they keep doing this though. I want TES 6. I don't want them re-releasing the same game but changing the code where it borks mods.
@@GophersVids lucky youngsters! Instead of which year it could get released I slowly start to ask myself if it will be before my timely demise or after it… 😩
I'm shocked there are still people out there that don't already have the updates tuned off after the CC fiasco that was breaking mods every couple months. I've had updates turned off for a few years now.
I can honestly say I will choose mods over Bethesda's Skyrim Anniversary Edition content. Hopefully the mods I use will be updated, even if it takes time or there will be alternatives to the ones that don't get updated, but I will wait for them over "Anniversary Edition Content".
I went through all this when SSE debuted. This one won't be that bad, assuming the non-SKSE mods still work, but I see no reason to bother with whatever Bethesda has on offer. A handful of good mods aren't a sufficient trade for so many of the great mods I've been using for years.
Damm if only I knew that before updating the game, now my skyrim instantly crashes when running mods guess imma have to wait for about a year or so.😭😭😭😭
Thank you Gopher for inducing this panic attack in me. Broke all the furniture at home my wife and son run away, police almost arrest me, but i told them what happened and then they panicked and started shooting at my neighbors. Thankfully the nuke came and ended the mayhem. Cheers.
Something not everyone may know if you're using vortex and installed SKSE using that loader, you can disable the SKSE plug in and see what specific mods will be effected. This way you will know to look for alternative mods until the SKSE mods are updated with the new version.
i'm kind of severely disapointed in bethesda for this because instead of making it optional it's forced upon via steam instead of being workshop content which in my opinion would be much more viable for bethesda and players of the game
I'm more annoyed than anything else. Why overwrite the SE version? I only bought the LE and can now choose between LE and SE so clearly releasing it as a seperate installation would be possible.
For additional peace of mind, you could set Steam update times to when you're not using your PC, something like 04:00 - 05:00. You can also remove Skyrim.exe and Skyrim Launcher.exe from ModOrganizer 2 executables, so you never accidentally launch the Vanilla game that way.
I would say "realistically" it may take a few months to about a year to "fix" everything, excluding mods that are abandoned with no open permissions. But, this kind of thing has happened before when SSE first released and there was no SKSE for it. Modders made mods without SKSE and versions of their own mods with SKSE functionality removed. Then after what I think was about a year and a half, SKSE64 was working perfectly and modders started making SKSE mods again, so I think we'll see the same thing happen and that same thing will continue to happen until about 3-5 years after TESVI releases. If there's one thing about the modding community as whole we've learned this past decade, it's that we are creative and resilient.
@@sambroman543 There is someone making an "Improved Camera" over on Reddit that's inspired by Enhanced Camera and it's what I'm using since Immersive First Person is broken atm. It's a wip, so they haven't put it on the Nexus yet, but it works just fine.
Still ridiculous that modders have given more to this game than than bethesda have in the last 10 years and now many authors are being forced to rewrite their mods. He says don't overreact but sometimes reaction is necessary
I worry about future mods being incompatible with Skyrim VR due to the skse changes between that and the anniversary edition. And ppl focusing on the anniversary edition.
Thanks for a welcome level-headed update on this, the 'Don't Panic' some of us needed. _However_ , on at least two occasions my copy of Skyrim SE has updated itself despite me forbidding it. Whether Bethesda pushed it or it was forced by something in Steam updating and altering my settings I don't know and it doesn't matter. I already routinely back up my executable because I can't rely on my preferences being respected, which in this context is...frustrating.
@@Auburn92122 Not sure what you mean? I have Steam running, is there a way to boot SKSE without Steam starting of its own volition? It's not 'up' in the sense that I minimize it to focus the desktop where my SKSE shortcut lives, but...yeah.
I'm so happy I just finished my modded "Dovahkiin" playthrough which uses so many mods that my character can spawn wings and fly. I'll probably end up uninstalling all my mods and just reinstall Skyrim completely. Hopefully this causes Mod makers to comeback, even if it's just to update their mods, then I can just start modding Skyrim from scratch again with a bunch of new/updated mods. I actually enjoy seeing new mods and mods I missed when making a new mod list.
I would say as long as we have SKSE and the core of SkyUI and iHUD getting updated reasonably fast we might be able to have a new generation of SKSE-based mods be built instead of having to rely on crusty old mods that have more patches than an over-enthusiastic girl scout.
If Bethesda cares for modding scene (they do, right? - at the end of the day this modding community is the reason people are still playing and buying this game - if they don't care then ... sigh) - they should support modders in updating skse and other modules asap.
Yeah I find it extremely weird that they would just ignore mods. Like, yes it's impossible keeping all mods working fine when making optimisations and all that, but at the very least they could try.
I don't want to defend Bethesda (because I hate what they becomed), but they did support skse: the developer team of skse had az early access version, so they could update it quickly.
@@PaithanORG This is sad truth. No improvement for PC, no bugs fixed. Just recompiled version from 2016. Unless someone can tell if AE fixed anything compared to SE?
2009 gamers: Horse armor is ridiculous and better not become common practice 2021 gamers: Breaking a users game is a slight inconvenience, why are you even mad?
Two SKSE based mods I will be waiting on being updated are SkyUI and of course iHUD. Though I will be playing vanilla SAE when the update is released. It's been about a year since I've last played Skyrim and haven't worked on a new load order yet.
Yeah, i might also try it out of curiosity when it comes out. But there are 2 mods i won't play it without. skyui and Enhanced camera or whatever the sse port is called now. I think for SSE it took like 2-3 years to get enhanced camera working properly so i'm not holding my breath for this new version any time soon haha.
Bethesda do have the option to create stable branches under the BETA opt in option, that stays on a certain version. Other games with a lot of mods, for example Factorio does this.
Instructions unclear, I panicked and installed Oblivion to my Skryim directory, then ate my mouse and keyboard. Now how do I uninstall using only voice commands?
Well to be honest is sort of is a great way to spend their time. It likely didn't take a lot of time or resources and they'll make a ton of money off of it. I frankly don't see a downside from a business perspective.
@@PheonixSunstar001 90% of the work involved was probably necessary for the new console upgrades anyway. Might as well make it an anniversary event and get some press.
Do you think Nexus will make Anniversary Edition a different category, like how Legendary and Special are separate categories? My next play through of Skyrim was going to be the VR version, and it’s going to be a pain if everything is updated for Anniversary and anything VR compatible is going to be buried or hidden away.
Doubtful, AE is an update that will replace SE completely. You can still buy LE on Steam if you have the direct link. Skyrim SE will no longer exist from 11.11.21.
Be careful, MO2 recognizes a launch when you close an instance of skse, I just did it and it started the update on steam, even after I took these precautions.
So I kind of didn't have a clue, and I installed the update! so I've basically made my modded Skyrim unplayable. I'm assuming there is no hope now? if I could some how delete the update that would be great but I assume its not possible😞
Unfortunately, I'm watching this today and this is exactly what happened. Is there any way to uninstall the update and load an old version of the game?
UGHH im so frustrated with myself for not paying attention to the feedback of the new update, it auto updated overnight and now my khajit assasin build wont be completed.. very sad day indeed
Thanks Gopher - so glad I saw this. I managed to do this "slightly inconvinient" in less than a few minute or two, so I don't think it should be an issue for others.
Yea I'm fucking pissed, 2nd day of the new edition and I haven't been able to play past talking to Mara and sleeping You'd think Bethesda would know what to do now after 10 years of re-releasing I give them too much credit I know Fixed the issue, not as many mods but I've managed to keep the 3 essential mods I use, inigo ussep and live another life along with some
I was actually ready for this, (after having to start over after resetting my PC) but then the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch updated and doesn't have any of the old versions downloadable. So I upgrade, but then SSE Engine Fixes doesn't work. I'm just running into headaches left and right now x-x
I modded and play tested my game on oneX a month ago for a future play. A forced update may break my game. So Skyrim offline for now. Definitely do not want to lose animation, sound, combat and camera improvement.
@@romitkumar6272 what I was intending to convey was wait to see if the new version added in anything that would be worthwhile to play and if it would be worth the trouble of breaking parts of my mod list.
It's been 9 years since I played Skyrim. I recently got it (Anniversary Edition) yesterday. I wish I watched this video sooner. I was wondering why none of the mods I got worked on it
I am getting a new PC after this update is released. Will installing Skyrim and then replacing the whole folder with the back up from my older PC work?
I wish I knew all this before the update ): my game is CTD even after the new SKSE. Why would they force this update on us and not have it as an optional free DLC? Do they want to ruin mods so we pay for CC mods? Trying to revert my game now. If anyones game is CTD when using a alchemy table (I don't have any alchemy mods) and know how to fix let me know please.
I feel bad for all those that don't hear about this until it's too late. It's probably going to be an insanely frustrating experience coming back to a broken game, especially if the playthrough is a longer one. I wish we had an option to go back to older versions in steam. Thank you for the heads up!
Whelp I’m one of those I didn’t even hear that my mods would be fucked after this update like dude there’s no reason at all to change sse edition they could simply release the newer game and leave the old one exactly how it is to not screw this shit up
Updates disabled... Files backed up... now creating archive file of my entire installation... hmmm.. my backup archive is of my haloowen themed profile.
My Update screen on Steam won't hold the setting after I change it. I change it to "Only update when I launch it", close the window then I check back and it reverts back to "Always keep this game updated". How do I get it to stay??
Your method to prevent updates only works if steam is open when you luanch the SKSE executable. If you forget to open steam once before luanching it will update 😞
My bigger concern right now is about Nexus. My Skyrim LE mod list is quite outdated but playable. I downloaded Fallout 4 mods at the last moment. Two weeks after I made playable setup at least 10 mods went gone, some of them for good. SSE is at worst state. I would need at least month to get it on playable state. Unlike Fallout, I don't even know which mods have been removed and where they can be found. As for the instructions. I turn off automatic updates for all games I have installed through Steam.
Here we go again. I never played Special Edition. I stayed with my modded original. Now that I put the original aside, here they come with the Anniversary Edition. And here I am staying with the Special Edition.
Did Bethesda say the Special Edition itself will be updated to the Anniversary Edition? I know that's what the SKSE dev says, but I wonder how reliable the information is. I was assuming it would be like when Special Edition came out and will be a whole new game in your library. Obviously better safe than sorry but hopefully there won't be a need for this at all and we can continue to play Special Edition just fine with no worries while mods are ported over to Anniversary Edition.
Thank you Gopher! Just finished downloading a copy of my entire SSE game to an external hard drive. Just to be safe. No panic here! Nope. Not a worry in the world. Checked all the proper boxes on Steam as well. Hope they're not too disappointed. No updates, please. Sorry Creation Club. No fishing for me. I'll catch Salmon the old fashioned way.....while hanging off a rocky cliff, kneel deep in white water rapids at the edge of a plunging waterfall.....happily clicking the mouse button in gleeful abandonment as they whiz by. :)
I'll probably update to Skyrim AE cause I'm not in the middle of a modded playthrough atm anyways. Will still take the appropriate measures to backup my Skyrim SE files though.
Thanks, Gopher! I'm all set on the game update setting, but will also back up the listed files. I don't think there's anything I'd want from Anniversary Edition anyway.
Just a reminder that there are hundreds of games that get updates every few months and all the hundreds or thousands of mods stop working overnight repeatedly. There are probably millions of mods for these games that are just impossible to play anymore. Just think of games like Minecraft or Kerbal space program.
Sadly it somehow got updated. I had done the 'only update on launch' bit, long ago. 2 days ago I accidentally launched SKSE before I had opened the steam application. So that started the update. But was able to cancel update and play. Today I woke up to an updated broken Skyrim. Somehow.. It boggles my mind. It's not even listed in the download section. My computer turns itself on when when it's in sleep mode and there is an update available for the OS. So it must have done that last night. But still don't know why it updated and broke Skyrim automatically. :'(
I'm not going tp panic...But Bethesda did have to know they were going to mess up the modding scene. It seems they don't really care or the AE event would be for a new game and not a update !!!!
After watching this decided to do a clean install and only use mods that don't require Script Extender so I wouldn't have to worry. Or so I thought, I've caught a case of the infinite black screen - apparently quite common even amongst those using no mods after anniversary update. Anyways I backed up the recommended files but not the entire folder. But the old executable doesn't work as there is a missing .dll.
MicroBLEEP paid $7.5 Billion for Bethesda - they know that they will alienate most people who still play Skyrim after 10 years with this update. MicroBLEEP software is meant to drive you, you are not meant to drive MicroBLEEP software - expect lots more of the same.
If the day should come in comparative short order to how often I actually feel like playing Skyrim that SKSE and mods and plugins that depend on it can be made to play nice with AE, then I will get the update and buy the upgrade on Steam then. Got too many mods I don't know if they'll be updated again to risk it and if modding AE should become a thing but I should have to do without those mods, I will be sad to be rid of them but will do what I must, but not before then.
Maybe its CC vs free mods. Free mods (many) will now be unusable. CC however will work. Sometimes it just comes down to money. Not saying that's the case here. Ahem.
Does this only affect the Special Edition, or does it apply to the original as well? I never switched to the Special Edition, out of laziness more than anything.
Modded load orders: “You won’t kill *ME!”*
Bethesda: *“ARCHERS!”*
Anyone else feel like running?
Me: I have no interest in the anniversary edition and I will keep playing and modding my Oldrim.
I'll just take the update on my console
as we commend our mods to aethereus
Anyone else feel like modding ?
Thank you for writing "don't panic" in such large, friendly letters!
Wow. So now he's a shill for Megadodo Publications as well. Kickbacks from GOG weren't good enough for him?
@@senhowler Let's see how many get the Megadodo reference ;)
Directly after panic be afraid
I just read panic and went and deleted my folder just in case.
@@senhowler LMAO
Really wish Bethesda would use the betas system on steam, they could let you go back to different versions of the game with a mouseclick and bring it back, some games I play do that, (Stellaris mainly), and it is so nice to not have to break all the old saves with every update.
It's a pain in the ass, but there's ways to download previous versions. I'm doing it right now, following this tutorial on Nexus "Guide - How to rollback your Skyrim - Manifest not available fix".
@@WeissM89 Oh yeah I know it is possible, but it could be so much easier, and steam already has a system for it.
"You are not entitled to every mod authors time" -Gopher 2021
Damn right! :D
this is a happy surprise
Captain on deck!
Good to see you here Cpt Shack
Ok let's pretend we don't care about our favorite mods.
Only person who actually explains how to prevent disaster instead of causing drama. This is how this kind of videos should be done. Worth sharing with any person new to Skyrim modding. You are the best, Gopher.
Oh yeah, that constant fear of accidently hitting play on steam skyrim... I have the game unlisted from the steam library at all times for that reason for many years now😁
That's a good idea actually, thanks.
How did you do that?
@@strdusts If I had to guess : Library > right-click Skyrim SE > Manage > Hide this Game.
I've done it sometimes on NV and it reseted my .ini . Now I have all my changes in the custom.ini so they're safe.
How well does this work or rather what is the downside? You can still play normally by launching from SKSE?
RIP time to wait like 6 months if modders still alive
Me who's already broken my Skyrim with mods: "One step ahead of you"
Thank you for this Gopher. Glad I watched as this is the 3rd time I have modded Skyrim and I finally have it working perfectly, so I don't want it messed up lol.
Ah, it's finally here; Modpocalypse Anniversary Edition. When's the Bicentennial one coming?
Please don't give them any ideas.
They missed that. The next one is the Tricentennial in 2076. You won't have a lot of time to play the game though.
I can't wait.
@@senhowler Followed by Skyrim: Holotape Edition for only 4099 caps to play on your terminals once the bombs drop
@@senhowler 300=75?
There's a pretty easy way for Bethesda to resolve this situation: All they have to do is split SSE and AE into two clients/folders and bundle them together, such that owners of SSE get AE, and owners of AE get SSE.
If only they gave a fuck
the problem is, that they add free content and update the base special edition, getting the anniversary edition is a whole entire thing
It has nothing to do with the CC content. It has everything to do with the new engine and graphics update. In my opinion that is totally okay because it needed it anyway but it breaks graphics and engine (60 FPS for example) mods. It also breaks survival mods like iNeed and Wet/Cold. I am by no means disregarding the hard work of the modding community in these areas I mentioned because I dearly appreciate them for their creativity and creating mods. I sincerely hope they update their mods to the new graphic engine so I can play.
Or just not make AE at all considering no one asked for it
@@quandaledingle7812 This is why I'm confused. How many people play vanilla skyrim? As i imagine they are the only people that feel the game needs additions. Most of us perfected our load order years ago and have slowly been making the game exactly how we want it. Now this? It makes no sense but beth could do anything at this point and it wouldn't surprise me, pretty dead company
Pfff, please, I'm still playing Oldrim
-( silently cries while looking at the mods and graphics my laptop will never handle)
Idk, my potato handles special editin pretty well. The fans are dying and I had to downsize all txtures and make sure scripts are at a minimum lol
@@d3anims97 It's not usually the texture sizes that affect performance. As for fans, make sure they aren't stock fans. Stock laptop fans are practically useless, zero to no airflow and they only accumulate dust.
I'm not sure about modern systems if i'm being honest, but all my past laptops literally didn't even need fans. A gaming laptop, yeah it's gonna need fans, but a potato laptop likely won't need them.
Yup went back to LE. No regrets on that.
I'm already dreading the AE update. Yes I have my game set to not update in steam and pretty much will 'freeze' what I have downloaded in Mod Organizer 2 until one day we maybe get an upgraded SKSE but it feels like we are starting over from square one again with Skyrim Special Edition. I was a really early adopter of SSE before SKSE was finished and I released a few mods on Nexus to support SSE. Now I'm gunna have to worry about if/when they need to be updated for AE but I don't want to lose all the SKSE features pre-AE so I cant update my game or the CK (if the CK gets updated with AE) so it might be a very annoying waiting game ...
We're gunna have like 2 types of mods in the SSE Nexus pool, pre-AE and post-AE and its going to be really confusing for users to figure out which is which and I can see people downloading the wrong thing and wondering why its not working.
I just worry this is gonna set all the big modding projects back further
Not if they code for the older versions before this farce. i think.
Unless they are using DLL files it shouldn't affect them at all.
Gopher, you tought me how to mod and now how to save the game I love - You are a treasure! Thank you for all you do.
Out of curiosity, how many people are even interested in the Anniversary Edition. When Special Edition was released there was enough of an incentive to upgrade to it, and even then many did not. But at this point in Skyrim's development life I don't see what they're adding to AE that makes it worth having. If you're playing a modded Skyrim you probably have the game you want, and if you're not playing a modded Skyrim then the risk to mods doesn't really matter.
Maybe I'm missing something.
I only care about mods. If they aren't gonna improve mod compatibility somehow, then there is literally zero reason for me to buy another Skyrim.
Already purchased Skyrim TWICE, and now I'm using my friend's library for SSE without buying it.
AE from what I heard so far is just not gonna be mod-friendly and the devs dont care about mods.
If that's true, there is absolutely zero reason for modders to update their game.
If I weren't using mods, I probably wouldn't bother with the paid update either.
I seriously doubt it offers enough new content to justify whatever insane pricing the update is going to have.
(Keep in mind that mods are FREE. You're objectively wasting money if they're just gonna unleash a normal update with "a bit" of content)
I decided to pass on this when the details came out. I'd rather play SE with the mods I like, nothing in AE sounded like it was of interest to me. Until of course the mods are available for it later, then I could prolly justify it.
The way they made it you have to have anniversary edition free update or you can't play the game for console players
@@TechSupportDave They can update the mods. They just have to critique it to the new Skyrim update. In a way it is a improvement to the mod community because the graphics are better but it just needs to be updated. It runs on 60 fps now
@@TechSupportDave Lol I remember eating cereal with water long time ago. It was gross but it kept us fed lol
I'm so sad I wasn't able to build my new PC in time to mod my Skyrim before all this went down :(
I wish Bethesda knew how to make new games in the span of less than 10 years instead of us having to jump through all this shit
It's frustrating that they keep doing this though. I want TES 6. I don't want them re-releasing the same game but changing the code where it borks mods.
It's not a re-release.
Don't hold your breath for TES6.
@@necrasin Unless you can hold your breath for five years.
@@dingickso4098 Is that confirmed? I was thinking 2026-2028 depending on how much DLC Starfield gets.
@@GophersVids lucky youngsters! Instead of which year it could get released I slowly start to ask myself if it will be before my timely demise or after it… 😩
I'm shocked there are still people out there that don't already have the updates tuned off after the CC fiasco that was breaking mods every couple months. I've had updates turned off for a few years now.
I can honestly say I will choose mods over Bethesda's Skyrim Anniversary Edition content. Hopefully the mods I use will be updated, even if it takes time or there will be alternatives to the ones that don't get updated, but I will wait for them over "Anniversary Edition Content".
I went through all this when SSE debuted. This one won't be that bad, assuming the non-SKSE mods still work, but I see no reason to bother with whatever Bethesda has on offer. A handful of good mods aren't a sufficient trade for so many of the great mods I've been using for years.
So lovely that i only hear about this after i get Anniversary Edition. How fun.
Enjoy your unmoddable game, Loki.
This happened to me too. I was in the middle of a playthrough and became so so bummed
Damm if only I knew that before updating the game, now my skyrim instantly crashes when running mods guess imma have to wait for about a year or so.😭😭😭😭
@@athalonARC im still on LE and refuse to Update at all. thats just me.
Thank you Gopher for inducing this panic attack in me. Broke all the furniture at home my wife and son run away, police almost arrest me, but i told them what happened and then they panicked and started shooting at my neighbors. Thankfully the nuke came and ended the mayhem. Cheers.
That's okay. What good are neighbors anyway.
Fifty-six years early.
Now you can't play Skyrim anymore. You're stuck with Fallout.
@@skyesfury8511 Yes and i kind of liked Belgium. was a nice country if a bit flat.
So uh... what if its too late? Is there some way/where you can download an older version of Skyrim SE
Something not everyone may know if you're using vortex and installed SKSE using that loader, you can disable the SKSE plug in and see what specific mods will be effected. This way you will know to look for alternative mods until the SKSE mods are updated with the new version.
i'm kind of severely disapointed in bethesda for this because instead of making it optional it's forced upon via steam instead of being workshop content which in my opinion would be much more viable for bethesda and players of the game
I'm more annoyed than anything else. Why overwrite the SE version? I only bought the LE and can now choose between LE and SE so clearly releasing it as a seperate installation would be possible.
For additional peace of mind, you could set Steam update times to when you're not using your PC, something like 04:00 - 05:00. You can also remove Skyrim.exe and Skyrim Launcher.exe from ModOrganizer 2 executables, so you never accidentally launch the Vanilla game that way.
I would say "realistically" it may take a few months to about a year to "fix" everything, excluding mods that are abandoned with no open permissions. But, this kind of thing has happened before when SSE first released and there was no SKSE for it. Modders made mods without SKSE and versions of their own mods with SKSE functionality removed. Then after what I think was about a year and a half, SKSE64 was working perfectly and modders started making SKSE mods again, so I think we'll see the same thing happen and that same thing will continue to happen until about 3-5 years after TESVI releases.
If there's one thing about the modding community as whole we've learned this past decade, it's that we are creative and resilient.
I'm still waiting for enhanced camera from oldrim to have a good sse version
@@sambroman543 There is someone making an "Improved Camera" over on Reddit that's inspired by Enhanced Camera and it's what I'm using since Immersive First Person is broken atm.
It's a wip, so they haven't put it on the Nexus yet, but it works just fine.
Still ridiculous that modders have given more to this game than than bethesda have in the last 10 years and now many authors are being forced to rewrite their mods. He says don't overreact but sometimes reaction is necessary
I worry about future mods being incompatible with Skyrim VR due to the skse changes between that and the anniversary edition. And ppl focusing on the anniversary edition.
That is a very good point
I hadn't really thought about the VR version much. I'm not sure it's going to get the same update, but it might be a good idea if I back that up too.
This is exactly what I fear. The AE won't affect Skyrim VR with the update, but the post AE SKSE mods would probably be incompatible.
Thanks for a welcome level-headed update on this, the 'Don't Panic' some of us needed. _However_ , on at least two occasions my copy of Skyrim SE has updated itself despite me forbidding it. Whether Bethesda pushed it or it was forced by something in Steam updating and altering my settings I don't know and it doesn't matter.
I already routinely back up my executable because I can't rely on my preferences being respected, which in this context is...frustrating.
Do you have steam up everytime you run the game? I had the same issue, and that was my problem.
@@Auburn92122 Not sure what you mean? I have Steam running, is there a way to boot SKSE without Steam starting of its own volition?
It's not 'up' in the sense that I minimize it to focus the desktop where my SKSE shortcut lives, but...yeah.
I'm so happy I just finished my modded "Dovahkiin" playthrough which uses so many mods that my character can spawn wings and fly.
I'll probably end up uninstalling all my mods and just reinstall Skyrim completely. Hopefully this causes Mod makers to comeback, even if it's just to update their mods, then I can just start modding Skyrim from scratch again with a bunch of new/updated mods.
I actually enjoy seeing new mods and mods I missed when making a new mod list.
I would say as long as we have SKSE and the core of SkyUI and iHUD getting updated reasonably fast we might be able to have a new generation of SKSE-based mods be built instead of having to rely on crusty old mods that have more patches than an over-enthusiastic girl scout.
Thank you very much for this video explaining in short what to do to keep our Skyrim installation save :)
Thanks for the heads up, Gopher. I have SE in my library, just haven't installed it on my new PC... well, until now that is. :)
Searching for compatible SAE mods vs SSE is such a pain on Nexus. OG Skyrim, ie Legendary etc, has it's own area. Wish they'd do that for SAE.
If Bethesda cares for modding scene (they do, right? - at the end of the day this modding community is the reason people are still playing and buying this game - if they don't care then ... sigh) - they should support modders in updating skse and other modules asap.
Yeah I find it extremely weird that they would just ignore mods. Like, yes it's impossible keeping all mods working fine when making optimisations and all that, but at the very least they could try.
I don't want to defend Bethesda (because I hate what they becomed), but they did support skse: the developer team of skse had az early access version, so they could update it quickly.
The mod community is only good for them to fix their zillion bugs.
@@PaithanORG This is sad truth. No improvement for PC, no bugs fixed. Just recompiled version from 2016. Unless someone can tell if AE fixed anything compared to SE?
2009 gamers: Horse armor is ridiculous and better not become common practice
2021 gamers: Breaking a users game is a slight inconvenience, why are you even mad?
Two SKSE based mods I will be waiting on being updated are SkyUI and of course iHUD. Though I will be playing vanilla SAE when the update is released. It's been about a year since I've last played Skyrim and haven't worked on a new load order yet.
Yeah, i might also try it out of curiosity when it comes out. But there are 2 mods i won't play it without. skyui and Enhanced camera or whatever the sse port is called now.
I think for SSE it took like 2-3 years to get enhanced camera working properly so i'm not holding my breath for this new version any time soon haha.
I play offline and I am keeping backup version of whole Skyrim folder on separate drive for some time now on.
Backup the main files and then, after the update, replace with the old ones.
Oooohh I love a good Gopher mod ramble, lemme get my coffee
Bethesda do have the option to create stable branches under the BETA opt in option, that stays on a certain version.
Other games with a lot of mods, for example Factorio does this.
Aaaaaaeeeeee! Nooooo! Reeeeeee! Oh wait... Did he say don't overreact? Oops...
It's modpocalypse 2021: Electric Boogaloo!
Panicking at the beginning I hugged my towel until I read DON'T PANIC and then I stopped panicking. Thank heavens I have my towel.
Instructions unclear, I panicked and installed Oblivion to my Skryim directory, then ate my mouse and keyboard. Now how do I uninstall using only voice commands?
No worries. This is how you're supposed to play the game.
Another Skyrim . Yeah thats a great way to spend your time Bethesda.
Well to be honest is sort of is a great way to spend their time. It likely didn't take a lot of time or resources and they'll make a ton of money off of it. I frankly don't see a downside from a business perspective.
@@PheonixSunstar001 90% of the work involved was probably necessary for the new console upgrades anyway. Might as well make it an anniversary event and get some press.
facts
The death of modding is a death of a thousand cuts. Ill still cry out at each one.
Do you think Nexus will make Anniversary Edition a different category, like how Legendary and Special are separate categories? My next play through of Skyrim was going to be the VR version, and it’s going to be a pain if everything is updated for Anniversary and anything VR compatible is going to be buried or hidden away.
Doubtful, AE is an update that will replace SE completely.
You can still buy LE on Steam if you have the direct link.
Skyrim SE will no longer exist from 11.11.21.
Be careful, MO2 recognizes a launch when you close an instance of skse, I just did it and it started the update on steam, even after I took these precautions.
So I kind of didn't have a clue, and I installed the update! so I've basically made my modded Skyrim unplayable. I'm assuming there is no hope now? if I could some how delete the update that would be great but I assume its not possible😞
Same
Unfortunately, I'm watching this today and this is exactly what happened. Is there any way to uninstall the update and load an old version of the game?
Luckily I already made a mod apocalypse bunker with a zipped clean version of skyrim se
UGHH im so frustrated with myself for not paying attention to the feedback of the new update, it auto updated overnight and now my khajit assasin build wont be completed.. very sad day indeed
What about Skyrim VR?
Thanks Gopher - so glad I saw this. I managed to do this "slightly inconvinient" in less than a few minute or two, so I don't think it should be an issue for others.
Yea I'm fucking pissed, 2nd day of the new edition and I haven't been able to play past talking to Mara and sleeping
You'd think Bethesda would know what to do now after 10 years of re-releasing I give them too much credit I know
Fixed the issue, not as many mods but I've managed to keep the 3 essential mods I use, inigo ussep and live another life along with some
I was actually ready for this, (after having to start over after resetting my PC) but then the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch updated and doesn't have any of the old versions downloadable. So I upgrade, but then SSE Engine Fixes doesn't work. I'm just running into headaches left and right now x-x
I can't even get the game to the title screen now. It won't let me play.
Jokes on you, I'm still running Oldrim! XD
I’m guessing most modders especially console modders aren’t actually going to update theirs
I modded and play tested my game on oneX a month ago for a future play.
A forced update may break my game. So Skyrim offline for now.
Definitely do not want to lose animation, sound, combat and camera improvement.
Reminds me when Major update goes for MC - so many mods died out because of trouble having the code nearly whole rewritten.
Was looking at starting a new modded run. Will probably put on hold until the dust settles.
Switch off auto updating
@@romitkumar6272 what I was intending to convey was wait to see if the new version added in anything that would be worthwhile to play and if it would be worth the trouble of breaking parts of my mod list.
@@romitkumar6272 you can‘t in Steam. Only option is „update only when playing“. Then starting the game via SKSE loader.
I'm on console, and hears we'd be fine. My game is just loading into a black screen
I felt like I was the only one who was dealing with this lol
It's been 9 years since I played Skyrim. I recently got it (Anniversary Edition) yesterday. I wish I watched this video sooner. I was wondering why none of the mods I got worked on it
I am getting a new PC after this update is released. Will installing Skyrim and then replacing the whole folder with the back up from my older PC work?
I wish I knew all this before the update ): my game is CTD even after the new SKSE. Why would they force this update on us and not have it as an optional free DLC? Do they want to ruin mods so we pay for CC mods? Trying to revert my game now. If anyones game is CTD when using a alchemy table (I don't have any alchemy mods) and know how to fix let me know please.
I feel bad for all those that don't hear about this until it's too late. It's probably going to be an insanely frustrating experience coming back to a broken game, especially if the playthrough is a longer one. I wish we had an option to go back to older versions in steam. Thank you for the heads up!
I was literally playing the damn game, 60 hours in to Legacy of the Dragonborn, when it fucking updated. ARGH
Whelp I’m one of those I didn’t even hear that my mods would be fucked after this update like dude there’s no reason at all to change sse edition they could simply release the newer game and leave the old one exactly how it is to not screw this shit up
I love how Gopher handles these every time one comes up.
Updates disabled... Files backed up... now creating archive file of my entire installation... hmmm.. my backup archive is of my haloowen themed profile.
My Update screen on Steam won't hold the setting after I change it. I change it to "Only update when I launch it", close the window then I check back and it reverts back to "Always keep this game updated". How do I get it to stay??
You mean how mods have broken my Skyrim for over the past 10 years?
When you right click Skyrim SE on steam you can choose "Hide this game" as well
Paniced: cut off foot with bone saw, how undo ?
Your method to prevent updates only works if steam is open when you luanch the SKSE executable. If you forget to open steam once before luanching it will update 😞
My bigger concern right now is about Nexus.
My Skyrim LE mod list is quite outdated but playable.
I downloaded Fallout 4 mods at the last moment. Two weeks after I made playable setup at least 10 mods went gone, some of them for good.
SSE is at worst state. I would need at least month to get it on playable state.
Unlike Fallout, I don't even know which mods have been removed and where they can be found.
As for the instructions. I turn off automatic updates for all games I have installed through Steam.
Here we go again.
I never played Special Edition. I stayed with my modded original.
Now that I put the original aside, here they come with the Anniversary Edition.
And here I am staying with the Special Edition.
This isn't a slight trouble for me...theres no point in playing anymore without the mods, and it just ruined a playthrough that took me four days
i was just beginning to enjoy the Wheel of Time mod!
Did Bethesda say the Special Edition itself will be updated to the Anniversary Edition? I know that's what the SKSE dev says, but I wonder how reliable the information is. I was assuming it would be like when Special Edition came out and will be a whole new game in your library. Obviously better safe than sorry but hopefully there won't be a need for this at all and we can continue to play Special Edition just fine with no worries while mods are ported over to Anniversary Edition.
The SKSE devs have contacts at Bethesda. And there is not enough to this update to make it a separate version.
@@senhowler That makes sense I guess.
Thank you Gopher! Just finished downloading a copy of my entire SSE game to an external hard drive. Just to be safe. No panic here! Nope.
Not a worry in the world. Checked all the proper boxes on Steam as well. Hope they're not too disappointed. No updates, please. Sorry Creation
Club. No fishing for me. I'll catch Salmon the old fashioned way.....while hanging off a rocky cliff, kneel deep in white water rapids at the edge of
a plunging waterfall.....happily clicking the mouse button in gleeful abandonment as they whiz by. :)
I'll probably update to Skyrim AE cause I'm not in the middle of a modded playthrough atm anyways. Will still take the appropriate measures to backup my Skyrim SE files though.
I'm having a load order conflict that's causing crashing when I enter dragonsreach atm so I can't play but I'm still doing this
Have someone had some problems with loading your old World, after i buyed this i couldnt load my old World, it stood "load save/load operation failed"
Thanks, Gopher! I'm all set on the game update setting, but will also back up the listed files. I don't think there's anything I'd want from Anniversary Edition anyway.
Just a reminder that there are hundreds of games that get updates every few months and all the hundreds or thousands of mods stop working overnight repeatedly. There are probably millions of mods for these games that are just impossible to play anymore. Just think of games like Minecraft or Kerbal space program.
"do not harass them"
me after yelling every bad word
Sadly it somehow got updated. I had done the 'only update on launch' bit, long ago.
2 days ago I accidentally launched SKSE before I had opened the steam application. So that started the update. But was able to cancel update and play.
Today I woke up to an updated broken Skyrim. Somehow.. It boggles my mind. It's not even listed in the download section.
My computer turns itself on when when it's in sleep mode and there is an update available for the OS. So it must have done that last night. But still don't know why it updated and broke Skyrim automatically. :'(
I'm not going tp panic...But Bethesda did have to know they were going to mess up the modding scene. It seems they don't really care or the AE event would be for a new game and not a update !!!!
I think MICROSOFT wants to put thier stamp on ELDER scrolls
Had to look this up after i seen that my skyrim updated 💀
After watching this decided to do a clean install and only use mods that don't require Script Extender so I wouldn't have to worry. Or so I thought, I've caught a case of the infinite black screen - apparently quite common even amongst those using no mods after anniversary update. Anyways I backed up the recommended files but not the entire folder. But the old executable doesn't work as there is a missing .dll.
Update used the patcher on Nexus (3GB file), works fine now.
What's nice is I'll still be able to experience the new stuff since I have Skyrim on Xbox as well as PC
Oh thank you so much, backed everything up.
And what about the Legendary Edition, will it stay unchanged?
I believe so.
Great!
LE's like a little island of stability amid the troubled waters.
Legendary Edition will remain unchanged, as this is only an update for Special Edition.
@@GophersVids Worth playing mods on legendary edition or special edition?
MicroBLEEP paid $7.5 Billion for Bethesda - they know that they will alienate most people who still play Skyrim after 10 years with this update. MicroBLEEP software is meant to drive you, you are not meant to drive MicroBLEEP software - expect lots more of the same.
If the day should come in comparative short order to how often I actually feel like playing Skyrim that SKSE and mods and plugins that depend on it can be made to play nice with AE, then I will get the update and buy the upgrade on Steam then. Got too many mods I don't know if they'll be updated again to risk it and if modding AE should become a thing but I should have to do without those mods, I will be sad to be rid of them but will do what I must, but not before then.
I wonder why Bethesda would bother updating the backend for the game, especially when it has this effect. They must have some reason for it.
Maybe its CC vs free mods. Free mods (many) will now be unusable. CC however will work. Sometimes it just comes down to money. Not saying that's the case here. Ahem.
Necessary for the new consoles. Happening on PC to avoid having forked versions.
Does this only affect the Special Edition, or does it apply to the original as well? I never switched to the Special Edition, out of laziness more than anything.