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There are 16 models in the Beautyrest Black quilted lineup for 2022-2024, which are further separated into four collections -- the B-Class, L-Class, C-Class, and K-Class. This video covers the L, C and K-Class models. Since the B-Class models were released at a later date, those are covered in a separate video here: • Beautyrest Black B-Cla...
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Looking for more of a memory foam feel? Check out our companion video on the Beautyrest Black Hybrid series, which have many of the same Black collection features, but with a smooth top and more slow-responding memory foam: www.goodbed.com/reviews/beaut...
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This is GoodBed's 'plain English' explanation and comparison of the L-Class, C-Class and K-Class quilted portions of the 2022-2024 Beautyrest Black line of quilted mattresses.
Click on the times in the chapter headings below to jump to the sections of this video that interest you most.
Time Chapter
0:00 Introduction
1:40 Shared Features
8:40 L Class
13:10 C Class
18:44 K Class
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Here is some of GoodBed's coverage on other Beautyrest mattress collections:
* Beautyrest Black Hybrid: www.goodbed.com/reviews/beaut...
* Beautyrest Harmony (Quilted): www.goodbed.com/reviews/beaut...
* Beautyrest Harmony Lux (Quilted): www.goodbed.com/reviews/beaut...
* Beautyrest Harmony Hybrid: www.goodbed.com/reviews/beaut...
* Beautyrest Harmony Lux Hybrid: www.goodbed.com/reviews/beaut...
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Been through 4 beds in 2 years, just ordered our 5th, C-class Medium PT. Hope this is the one! Thanks for the best explanation ever! This is exactly what i was looking for in a review.
I hope so too! Thanks so much for letting us know this was helpful for you!
Thank you for this much needed video! We just made a purchase of this same brand at Raymour and Flanigan yesterday. I went in for the intention to buy a whole nother brand, and once i laid on the black beautyrest c type for a few minutes, i was sold. The sales guy kept showing me other brands, but in the end my husband and I felt this was the right one. Hope we don't regret it. For refrence i am a 💯 side sleeper, my husband is a combination..150 pounds (me)/husband 180.. i have back, pelvis, neck and shoulder pain, wake up with headaches every single day, and it all started happening since 2016 when we bought a bob-o-pedic firm mattress with all the bells and whistles, worth almost $2,000 (Worse decision ever!) Didn’t do my research, trusted the sales person cause he said he bought the same one. 🙄 and ofcourse i fell for it.. And because of the price, we decided to keep it all these yrs. Suffering!!! Until now, that we finally feel like it's more of a need than a want. But this helped alot. Thanks!
Our pleasure -- thanks for taking time to share your experience and let us know this was helpful for you!
This is a great video! I understand that b-class just released and you didn’t mention here. Can you please explain about b-class and harmony lux coral? I need to choose one of this as Beautyrest needs to replace for me from sagging. Now, I can’t decide.
I went to Macy and tried both Harmony Lux Coral and Black B-Class. Both are in medium level. I feel very similar but the differences are:
• Harmony Lux Coral: more adjust along with my body when I sleep on my side. The padding fabric on the top of mattress is kind of thinker so I feel like pillow top. I feel more springy when I bang my hand on it.
• Black B Class: The padding fabric on the top of mattress is kind of thinner. When I sleep on the side, the mattress pretty stays flat, not down much, compared to Harmony Lux Coral. But when I bang my hand on it, the mattress is easier to go down deeper than Harmony Lux Coral.
To be honest, I still cannot decide. I like the feel of Harmony Lux Coral more when I lay down but the seller told me that T3 from Black line is stronger than T2 from Harmony Lux line. So, I guess it means more support? And Black is more coil than Harmony. I don't know what it helps. So, from what the seller explains, it means that I should buy Black b-class more than Harmony lux?
Hey there! So I've just reviewed the specs on these and they are indeed very very similar. They even appear to have the same firmness of poly foam over the coil unit. The big difference here is in that coil unit. The T3 coil in the B-Class is lightly zoned and a known quantity with one of the strongest coils on the market. The T2 coil is a relatively new addition to the market, though built on the same "braided coil" concept as the T3, just with one less strand in the braid.
If you're a heavier individual I might recommend the B-Class, but otherwise these are very very similar mattresses.
Hello and thank you for breaking down Beautyrest and S&F.
That being said, I’m still so confused!!
I’d like an Aleppo g on my bed, with some “cushion” comfort. I have hip problems, mid back, and sometimes ribs hurt. I purchased the beautyrest C clash plush, and I HATE IT!!! I can’t move, there’s no support, and I have a handful of days to choose another mattress, HELP🙏🏻
I just bought a c class plush pillow top. Do you think this is a mistake or do you think this is a good mattress that will last a long time? I’ve seen bad reviews about it sagging and just not holding up even over a short period of time
So i like pretty firm beds sometimes medium firm. I usually dont go for a pillow top. I think tight top is good not sure. I do toss and turn a lot. I do like some bounce. I hate memory foam. I hate sinking and waking up sweaty. I sleep hot. Nothing annoys me more than sleeping with straight hair and waking up with curly hair sweaty. I do sleep with a very high pillow because acid reflux. I was looking mostly at stearns and foster or beautyrest black. I dont really understand the differences entirely between stearns foam and beautyrests gel foam or latex and all these materials polyutherane tencel. I just want it to be as cold as possible and breathable . Firm. Minimal foam i think?. Plz help guide me in right direction and tell me which bed to get. Money is not an issue thank u. Great videos ❤
In this case, I think the Beautyrest Black options might be better for you? These are typically slightly firmer than Stearns and Foster models and have less of a dense memory foam with more natural fibers. And generally, natural fibers tend to breathe well compared to synthetic foams. Something in the Beautyrest Black Medium or Medium Pillowtop range could work very well for you.
Hey thanks for the great video. Question... for a side sleeper (180 pounds) whose biggest issue is the painful sides of my shoulders when I sleep on my side, right where i dig my shoulder into the mattress... what would you suggest from these? I definitely need something soft in the shoulder area because I keep flipping back and forth from the dead arm pain, thank you!
In that case, you might look at a hybrid model? The stretch cover on these is a bit softer and will generally allow for more conformance at the shoulder area than a quilted cover. Otherwise we'd recommend a Plush model provided that it supports the rest of your body. The Firm and Medium models in the Black line generally use firmer coils.
How you only have 20k subs is beyond me.
Thanks Joey. I think a lot of subscriber numbers you see on TH-cam include subs that were purchased or incentivized in some way. We don't play games like that, so that is certainly one reason why ours may look lower than you'd expect.
Another factor is that we I don't think we've ever taken any time in our videos to ask our viewers to like and subscribe. So our likes and subscribers are people who took this action 100% on their own. That said, given that even the largest YT channels seem to ask people to like and subscribe in every video, perhaps this approach is a little naive on our part. Would certainly be open to any thoughts or suggestions you may have.
Thanks again.
We just bought a black beauty rest and we sleep very sound.. it was worth penny.
Which one? We just ordered on as well. C class PT Medium.
Which mattress in this current lineup is most similar to the beautyrest black desiree plush?
Thanks
Great question. The models that would be closest would likely be the B or L-Class Plush models. Hope that helps!
Hi! Does Beautyrest has a Beautystudio series? I was about to buy a Beautystudio by Simmons mattress, Twilight model, but I couldn't find it anywhere online.. is this a fake version?
Interesting question! We have not heard of this particular line. It's possible that it's an older line or a regional variation.
Hi - between the Beautyrest Black and Black Hybrid, which one would you say sleeps cooler? I sleep very hot and want to make sure I pick the right one. Does less foam usually mean it will be cooler, or not necessarily because it depends on the types of foam?
Thanks!
Hi there -- Thanks for your question. In general, these lines will be very similar on this front, but all else being equal I'd give a slight nod to the Quilted line, mostly because the undulating surface will allow a bit more of your body's surface area to be exposed to the air, which is the most efficient way for you to dispel heat. I hope that's helpful.
@@goodbed Super helpful. Thank you!
I just bought a black beauty rest and I sleep very sound and I hardly wake up with hot flashes.
How would you compare the firmness between the C class Extra Firm and the Saatva Classic Firm? I need something firm but with some bounce.
Also will you be doing a review of the 2024 beautyrest black lineup?
@@jokerpilled2535 Yes, we will be releasing that in the next week or so. As for the two models you asked about, the best way I can answer that is with a simple side-by-side comparison of all of their features and characteristics, which you can see on the website right here: www.goodbed.com/compare/?mod=saatva-extra-firm&mod=beautyrest-black-c-class-extra-firm
If you want, you can add pretty much any other mattress to that comparison as well (we've tested over 800 at this point), and can look at up to 5 at a time in a side-by-side format.
I hope that's helpful.
Do you have an opinion on using adjustable bases with beautyrest black mattresses? In particular, the c-class firm or extra firm?
- Will using an adjustable base “break down” the firmness (in a bad way)?
- Do you recommend going with a Beautyrest base, or would a Seely or Tempur adjustable base be fine?
Hi there -- On balance, bending your mattress on an adjustable base does add a little bit of extra wear and tear, especially if you've got it flexed to the max by fully elevating the head and foot to the max at the same time. However, in the way that most people use an adjustable base, I don't think the "cost" in terms of accelerated wear and tear outweighs the benefit that you get from the adjustable base features.
In terms of which base you use, the main reason to get a matching base is for the matching aesthetics. Beyond that, bases are generally interchangeable and aren't designed to work specifically with one brand of mattress over another.
I hope that's helpful.
HI! We have just received a return authorization thru Cardi's Furniture for our Hope Plush Beautyrest Black mattress which we purchased in 2016. The RA is for the equivalent of our original purchase price towards a replacement of our choice, as this mattress had been discontinued. The mattress has some wear on the surface fabric which looks kind of shredded. It's in the area where my husbands feet usually are, in 2 smallish areas next to each other. We really love this mattress and are wondering which one that they currently carry would be most similar in quality as well as comfort and features.
There's not an exact match on this, but looking at specs the C-Class or K-Class Plush would be closest. I hope that's helpful.
Are the non-pillow top versions of these beds designed to be flipped so you can sleep on the other side and I have to imagine that would increase the life of the bed. I loved being able to flip my bed versus turning my pillow top bed if that makes sense.
Hi there -- Thanks for your question. There are actually very few flippable mattresses on the market any more, which is something that happened between 2000 and 2010. Since then, the vast majority of mattresses sold have a sleep surface on only one side, as is the case for all the mattresses shown in this video. I hope that's helpful.
@@goodbed I think that might be why everyone moved from a 20-year to a 10-year warranty. Thank you.
@@macmovieman1 That's a solid theory, but actually that change was one of the rare cases where ethics and economic incentives pointed in the same direction.
Most mattress warranties are, and always have been, little more than a marketing gimmick. Because of the way mattress warranties tend to be written (so as to exclude up to 2 inches of sagging on the basis that it constitutes normal wear rather than a manufacturing defect), there are extremely few successful warranty claims that happen after the first year or two. This is to say nothing of prorating, which has always been common in warranties that extend beyond 10 years.
As such, any mattress manufacturer can confidently extend their warranty from 10 years to 20 years, knowing that there will be very few incremental warranty claims that they will be liable for as a result of this. And since consumers don't understand any of this, mistakenly interpreting warranty length as a proxy for expected lifespan, doing this proved to be an effective sales tool. So once one manufacturer went to 20 years, every manufacturer had to follow suit.
But it was well understood in the industry that 20 year warranties were a very misleading practice. Manufacturers and retailers knew that consumers mistook warranty length for longevity, so they leaned into it as a sales tool. But out of the other side of their mouths, with a completely straight face, they would explain that consumers should replace their mattress every 8-10 years.
Finally, about 5-10 years ago (long after the switch to one-sided mattresses had begun), the key players in the industry started coming back to 10 year warranties. While it would be nice to think that this was about integrity, the reality is it was probably much more about industry consolidation. Once Tempur-Pedic merged with Sealy, and Serta merged with Simmons, 60% of the industry was tied up in 2 companies. Leadership at these companies realized that if the expectations created by a 20 year warranty were leading consumers to keep their mattress even just a few years longer than they otherwise would (or should), this was artificially lowering the number of consumers who would be in the market for a mattress in any given year. And with as much market share as they had, this reduced market size was hurting them much more than the incremental sales from having a longer warranty was helping them. And so, warranties got reduced to 10 years.
The End. Hope that's helpful, or at least an interesting backstory. :)
@@goodbed Super helpful and thank you for the explanation. I bought a Stearns and Foster Estate bed in 2003 and turned in a warranty claim in Nov 2013 and paid for the upgrade to jump up two levels to their hybrid bed. I think I paid $2100 to upgrade which included new box springs, tax and the bed. I have come to terms that I want a new quality bed every 10-years which is right about now. Trying to decide between the Beautyrest Black K series and the Stearns and Foster Reserve both in their firm options that are closer to a medium. Trying to decide is so hard and I know they would both be good mattresses.
@@macmovieman1 First and foremost, I would agree that those are both very high-quality mattresses, so there is a lot to like in each case.
In terms of choosing between them, I might start with the support unit, which is a strength of both brands. S&F uses the Intellicoil, a coil-in-coil design that specializes in providing both gentle supportiveness for lighter and/or concave parts and firmer supportiveness for heavier and/or pointy parts. Meanwhile, Beautyrest uses the T3 coils, which IMHO offer firmer, more rigid supportiveness overall.
Comparing the Firm Pillow Tops in the S&F Reserve and BB K-Class, I see they have remarkable similar feels in terms of overall softness, cushioning depth, and memory feel. The Beautyrest Black, however, will have a little more bounce on account of the stronger coils and slightly less memory foam. Likewise, although both are right on the border of Medium and Medium-Soft, the Beautyrest Black gets there by having a bit more softness in its pillow top with a bit more firmness underneath.
Of course, you'll want to make sure you choose a mattress that meets all of your criteria in terms of what we call the 3 F's -- Fit, Feel, and Features. If you haven't already done so, I'd recommend reading our explanation of how to choose a mattress here for more clarity on this: www.goodbed.com/guides/mattress-matching/
Lastly, I should mention that we've got cash back offers on both of these brands, both for shopping online and for shopping at various local retailers across the country. These are paid by us after purchase (we share back our referral fees with our readers), so it's free money on top of any discounts you get from the retailer, and in your case could be well over $100 with either of these mattresses.
I hope that's helpful.
I really hate all the memory foam used in mattress’s these days
We hear you. Memory foam is only becoming more common these days, and while it can have some distinct benefits, it's not loved by everyone.
Still, if it's been a while since you've tried memory foam, you might find that it's typically a lot more breathable and sleeps a lot cooler than it used to. And we generally find that small layers of memory foam (about an inch or so) aren't felt strongly by most sleepers. Hope that helps.
Americans seem obsessed with Memory foam. The mattress models we have here from Sealy, Serta and Beautyrest all have Latex with the foams. And every model’s got Pocketed coils.
@@hastensavoir7782 because its comfortable ..wtf
@@hastensavoir7782where are you located, if you don't mind me asking? Thank you
How come manufacturers websites don't list/sell some of the same mattresses that are listed in this video or ones that are in retailers? For instance, Beautyrest's website doesn't list an "Extra Firm" option for either the Beautyrest Black L-Class or C-Class, but I've personally seen a retailer sell an L-Class Extra Firm and this video shows the C-Class Extra Firm.
I read that mattress manufacturers like Beautyrest will allow stores to change the name of the product (i.e., market a true "firm" as "extra firm") sometimes, and they'll also make unique products for stores, so how can you tell the difference?
Hi there -- You asked a few questions here, so I'll try to hit them all. First, very few (if any) retailers carry the full lineup of models made by Beautyrest, which is why you don't see all of these on a given retailer's website. Second, the L-Class Extra Firm was part of the 2019 lineup -- there is no L-Class Extra Firm in the 2022 version of the line.
In terms of allowing retailers to change the names of a product, this one is more complicated. Historically, retailers have always believed themselves to be more important than the brands, and brands have allowed them to get away with actions and demands that damage the brand in the hopes of keeping the retailer happy. This is how we ended up with the "model name game," where the same model is sold under different names in different stores, which has been a blight on the industry for decades.
The other example you gave is a more subtle but perhaps more insidious form of this, where a retailer thinks they can sell more of a given model by calling it a different firmness level (eg, calling a model "Luxury Firm" instead of "Firm" or "Ultra Plush" instead of "Plush"). Fortunately, these types of name changes are less common, especially with a premium brand like Beautyrest Black that is more closely policed. But I'm afraid if a retailer is willing to take this type of action (and allowed to get away with it), there is not much an unsuspecting customer can do to spot it short of closely cross-referencing the store model against the information we provide here.
I hope that's helpful.
@@chiefinskins21 You are correct that when I was using the term "retailer," I was referring to other retail businesses that carry Beautyrest products, not Beautyrest itself. That said, you're also correct that Beautyrest is a retailer themselves, as you can buy these products directly from them through their website.
As for why they don't offer the C-Class Extra Firm on their website, I'm afraid I don't actually know the answer to this. It could have something to do with its rigidity making it harder to ship, or it could be simply that they want to save that product as an exclusive offering for their dealers.
@@chiefinskins21 Our pleasure -- hope you are very happy with your choice!
I had a mattress salesperson tell me today that Tempurpedic bought Beautyrest, and Tempurpedic technology is in the Beautyrest Black mattresses. Have you heard anything like this? I thought it might be a little far fetched. Thanks🙏
Hi there -- This is completely false. Beautyrest is owned by the same company that owns Serta and Tuft & Needle, but has never had any connection whatsoever to Tempur-Pedic, other than as direct competitors. In an effort to give the salesperson the benefit of the doubt, the only explanation I can think of is that they could be confusing Beautyrest Black with Stearns & Foster, since both are large luxury mattress brands. Stearns & Foster is in fact owned by the same company as Tempur-Pedic, and in recent years they have started to use some Tempur foam in certain S&F mattresses. I hope that's helpful.
Pillow top C class is the way to go
What’s the main difference between Black and the Black Hybrid since both have Pocket Springs?
Good question. There are a lot of people using the word "hybrid" in the mattress industry right now, and this means different things to different people.
Here at Goodbed, we use the word hybrid to mean a smooth top model with about two inches of memory foam in it. The smooth top and initial feel of memory foam is akin to a memory foam mattress, but the underlying pocketed coils provides a bit more bounce effectively hybridizing these constructions. The regular Black line have quilted tops and a less pronounced memory foam feel to them. Hope that helps!
@@goodbedwould you say the regular Blacks w/o memory foam tops, have better Ease of repositioning?
@@hastensavoir7782 Yes, on average, they have less slow-responding memory foam, which will make them easier to reposition on. Hope that's helpful.
Hybrid is better
@@wayneguy6043I prefer the Quilted top over the Stretchy tops. Am not much a fan of Memory foam unless it’s there in addition to Latex, to balance the bouncy feel down.
On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the firmest mattress you've ever been on, how would you rate the L-Class Firm, C-Class Firm, and C-Class Extra Firm?
I just happen to try both the L class Firm and C class Firm. I can tell you the C lass is way more firm. Felt way more comfortable for me. I’m a bigger guy 6’2” 300 and I bought it today. Getting delivery tomorrow. Will update In 30days.
Hi there -- Sorry we missed this previously.
FWIW, "firmness" scales are confusing and misleading, since "firm" is an extremely ambiguous word that means very different things to different people. The idea of a 1-10 scale where the firmest mattress is a 10 was invented a few years ago by one of the first fake mattress reviewers. He didn't actually know anything about mattresses but knew he could sell more mattresses by making claims about "firmness." Sadly, deceptive information like this continues to be propagated by the nubes that run other mattress review sites today.
That said, "softness" is a feature that means the same thing to most consumers and thus can be more accurately measured and communicated. On our softness scale (1-9, with 9 being the softest and 5 being a dead medium), we'd classify these as the following:
* L-Class Firm: 2.3
* C-Class Firm: 3.4
* C-Class Extra Firm: 1.4
Apologies for the rant, but IMHO it's critical for a consumer to be able to know which information he/she can actually trust and how to spot untrustworthy information. I hope that's helpful.
@@goodbed - That's very helpful and thanks for debunking that for me!
@@user-dv1nh5mm2f Glad to help. 👍
@@chiefinskins21 Hmm, that's really hard to say from here. If it's bothering you, it seems worth contacting your retailer and having someone come out to take a look at it. Or at least sending them some pictures, as you presumably did with Beautyrest. It could be that there is something in the layers that got bunched up in that area. Sorry I can't be of more help on this one.
There’s a new Beautyrest Black for 2024. Series 1-4.
What best mattress do you recommend for scoliosis?
Hey there! This is a tough question to answer, as the severity of scoliosis tends to vary from person to person. That said, our best guess might be a plush hybrid design like the new BX-Plush? These generally allow for the most conformance and this conformance might benefit someone with scoliosis. Of course, it's also possible that someone with scoliosis might prefer something firmer as well.
Hi thanks for replying...we went with the Sealy Posturepedic Hybrid...does BR not make Silver mattresses anymore? If not, why does Costco sell them? I'm thinking of getting one for another bedroom. @@goodbed
@@my3sonsmjc While it's normal that a few retailers may still have them, the Beautyrest Silver line has mostly been discontinued. It has been replaced with the Harmony line, which is what you can purchase on Beautyrest's website and at most of their retailers. I hope that's helpful.
Ok great to know thanks for the info…which one do you recommend for a young adult who is a combo sleeper?
@@my3sonsmjc If we're talking about the Silver line, we'd generally recommend something like the BRS900 Plush or 900-C. The Silver line has historically run a bit firm, so the Plush model is closer to a medium. Hope that helps.
Is the latex talalay or Dunlop?
Good question
Good question. I just went through our records and it doesn't look like we have this information on hand. Based on my recollection from personally handling this material, it felt like a soft layer of Dunlop, though sometimes it can difficult to tell with small slices of latex.
However, because it is just one layer in a more complicated construction - I don't think it matters so much either way. Both are quality materials (and can feel different), though these differences are very very difficult to discern when used in a complete build with other foams. Hope that helps!
I'l feel that wrong that they would count that as a 3- Coils =( it still takes up the the SPACE as 1 COIL with a simular Gauge Tempered Wire in the POCKET ! ?
Hi George -- Thanks for your comment. Another way to think about this would be to consider each T3 coil to be a single coil that has 12 1/4 gauge. We calculated this based on the combined cross-sectional area of the 3 individual coils that are intertwined together. AFAIK, that is stronger gauge than any other coil on the market today. I hope that's helpful.
Hi still watching your Vids. I wish I had bought from you. Sorry
YUP! I trust over these fools in So Cal. Thank you again for making these Vids 🙏👍
@@GeorgeAmodei21 Our pleasure -- thanks for letting us know they've been helpful for you!
Can you please tell me the price
Sure, prices vary by size and model of course, but you can see all the prices for this line here: www.goodbed.com/o/l/beautyrest-black/beautyrest/
Which coils do you think are overall more supportive, stearns and fosters intellicoil or the beauty rest t3 coils?
Hi there -- Thanks for your question. If you are asking which coils offer firmer, more rigid support overall, that would be the firm T3 coil unit IMHO (note that Beautyrest Black uses a slightly softer coil unit for their plush models).
The IntelliCoils, with their coil-in-coil design, have a bit of a different specialty, which is to offer variable supportiveness through the combination of a taller but softer inner coil and a shorter but firmer outer coil. This can be advantageous for people who need more gentle supportiveness for their lighter and/or concave parts at the same time as they need firmer supportiveness for their heavier and/or pointy parts. In the Beautyrest Black design, this same dual objective is achieved more through the combination of the firm underlying coil unit and the softer comfort layers on top.
I hope that's helpful.
@@goodbed that is extremely helpful, thank you so much! Now, I see you mention that with the plusher models beautyrest may use a softer coil, can the same be said of Stearns and Foster? Or do they use the same gauge coil for their outer and inner coils on their plush models as they do their firmest models? It sounds like Stearns and fosters coils would be what would work best for my body, so now I’m wondering if I just need to pick which feel I want for the comfort layers?
@@MURPHxiii No, S&F's coil unit is the same in firmer and plusher models. For the comfort layers, yes you will want to find a feel that works for you, however the layers above the springs also contribute to the "fit" from a spinal alignment and pressure relief standpoint (see our 3 F's explanation of how to choose a mattress here for more clarity on this: www.goodbed.com/guides/mattress-matching/), so you'll want to make sure to choose a model that works for you on those fronts as well.
I hope that's helpful.
@@goodbed thank you SO much!
@@MURPHxiii My pleasure!
Is the quilted an inspring?
Hi Rebecca -- Yes, all Beautyrest Black mattresses (both quilted and hybrid) are innerspring.
Really dislike the direction the mattress industry is going with these taller and taller hybrids. You really don't need 8" of foam above your coil support. These beautyrests will shove 2 layers of foam in the pillow top alone, a thin layer of microcoils just so they can market higher coil counts, then another 3 layers of various polyfoam, memoryfoam, convoluted foam, and so on. The people wonder why their $5k mess of a mattress is sagging on them after a few years when the cheap innerspring they replaced it with gave them 15 years.
We hear you - more foam is not always better!
That said, there is something to be said for microcoils in these builds. These can add a lot of conformance and are likely to be much more durable than similar layers of foam. Based on data we've seen, we expect the new generation of Beautyrest Black to have a bit less foam and a bit more of a balanced construction with regards to foam, natural fibers, latex, and microcoils.
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Hi I bought a black quilted c class and had 2 inches of divot after a month. They classified as a defect and replaced it. It happened again in 1 week with the second. We are not heavy people. We generally prefer medium plus/minus PT. Open to others except for plush. Of all of the Black collections (L,C etc, firmness, and pillow top or not), which has been reported to have the least problems with divots?
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@@melissahaglund9788 Wow, I'm really sorry to hear this has happened to you, and twice no less. That is wild. It feels like perhaps you are getting units that have been compromised in some way (eg, stored in hot warehouse for too long?).
Putting that aside though, the units with the firmer coil unit will have less cushioning depth and should be a bit more resistant to body impressions as well. This includes all of the Firm models and most (if not all) of the Medium tight top models. Likewise, tight tops will generally have less foam on top which means less opportunity for body impressions, so I'd stick with those over pillow tops.
Based on this, I'd start by trying the C-Class Firm. If that is too firm for you then I'd try the C-Class Medium (just check to confirm it has the firmer coil unit). Your other alternative would be to get the C-Class Extra Firm, which is tank but is as firm as they come, and add a separate topper to it in order to give yourself the softness level you want.
I hope that's helpful.
Give us the address to the store send me the address to the store where you guys located
Hey there Naroopa! We don't actually have a store. We work through online reviews and videos like the above. You can check out our website here: www.goodbed.com/reviews/beautyrest-black-mattress-preview/
Prices and discounts should also be available at that same link. Hope that helps!
I heard they sleep hot???? I sleep very hot
Do you think the Beautyrest Pressuresmart 2 Extra Firm is similar in feel to the Beautyrest Black Class C Extra Firm???
I have scoliosis, and today I tried a bunch of mattresses at Mattress Firm. My absolute favorite was the Beautyrest Pressuresmart 2 Extra Firm. I didn't try the Beautyrest Black Extra Firm, I'm not sure if they even had one, but I should maybe go back to check.
I am wondering your opinion on whether or not the Black Extra Firm is better or worse than the PressureSmart Extra Firm.
A main concern of mine is that the Pressuresmart will sag. I've read a few reviews saying it will, and but I have also read a bunch of reviews from people who loved that mattress, so i don't know what to expect. I'm 6'1", 187 pounds.
Do you think with the special coils on the black it would be less likely to sag over time?
I'm mainly concerned about the extra materials the Black added on top of the coils, I'm afraid it will change the feel and make the extra firm Black too soft for me, because I really really liked the firmness of the pressuresmart, but if the black is just as firm then I would rather get it I think.
Thank you so much for your help friend!
Generally we'd expect Extra Firm mattresses to be pretty durable across the board. These use very firm foams that are unlikely to soften such that a person experiences sagging in the first years of use. And while it is true that the Black T3 coil is likely to be more durable, it also comes at an increased cost.
I'd try both if you can. These will feel similar, but we would expect the Black to be more durable.
@@goodbed Thank you so much for your reply! Budget is a bit of an issue for me - I was wondering what your opinion on the BRS900 or BRS900-c would be as compared to the PressureSmart 2? All in Extra Firm?
The mattress saleswoman suggested I look into the BRS900 as a possible cheaper alternative to the Pressuresmart 2.
The only reason I was considering a black was because I found one on craigslist for $1400, but tbh I'm not sure if I can trust it lol.
I'd love to only spend the $500-600 required to get a BRS900, but only if it has the same feel as the pressuresmart.
@@theNimboo I'm afraid the gap between the BRS900 and the Pressuresmart -- while not as big as the gap between the Pressuresmart and Beautyrest Black -- is still a pretty substantial gap in terms of the quality of materials and construction. That said, you may indeed find it has the same "feel," if that's your primary criteria. I hope that's helpful.
@@goodbed Oh good point, thank you. So are you saying that though the BRS900 may feel the same as the PressureSmart at first, it will not be as durable over time and will likely develop a dip earlier than the PressureSmart?
Edit: Also, I was wondering if I'm dumb for going for the pressuresmart and should be looking at the Harmony instead? Like is going for a Mattress Firm exclusive a bad idea?
The pressuresmart just happened to be the only mattress in the store to completely put me out of spinal pain.
I wish I could try the BRS900, maybe I will make the trek to the far away store to try it, I really need to make a decision quickly my back is killing me. Part of me wants to just spring for the pressure smart, but I'm really trying to decide if it is worth the extra nearly $1,000.
Like one question I have is do the two different beds have the same coils? Like same gage? Same type of metal, etc? Also when a bed has less coils, are the coils bigger or just spread further apart? Like the BRS900 has 900, and the other one has 1,000, right? Are those coils the same and just spread or how does that work?
Thank you so much for your channel by the way, I've watched so many of your videos, you've been so helpful to me
@@theNimboo Sorry we missed this reply earlier. I do think the PressureSmart units should hold up significantly better than the BRS900 units, both on account of the coil unit and the quality of foams used on top of the coils.
Re: Harmony, in general, the PressureSmart mattresses have some extra memory foam in the quilt, which can help add pressure relief, while the Harmony mattresses have a significantly stronger coil unit that should hold up better over time.
Spinal pain will be all about alignment and finding the mattress that allows your spine to be held in a neutral position, so the *right* mattress in either line should solve this for you.
Sorry again for the delay in this reply but I hope this is still at least somewhat helpful.
WE JUST BOUGHT SIMONS BEAUTYREST BLACK K CLASS KINGSIZE PLUSH . ITS LIKE SLEEPING ON A CLOUD OR MAYBE A MARSHMALLOW. FOR MOST PEOPLE ITS PROBABLY TOO SOFT.
Good to know, thank you!
how many inches high?