Master Chinese “z c s” | Pronunciation Training
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Master Chinese “z c s” | Pronunciation Training
Having a good pronunciation can increase your confidence when you speak a new language.
By the time I started consciously train my English pronunciation, I know a certain amount of English vocab already, but I don’t feel comfortable to use them and say them. Then I realized that the reason I was afraid to use and say them is because I was lack of confidence in terms of my pronunciation.
So now, after I got benefit from linguistic knowledge to improve my speaking skills, I’d like to use this knowledge to help you consciously train your Chinese pronunciation as well!
After tackling with the Chinese hard consonants “j q x zh ch sh r”, today, we’re going to focus on “z c s”. These Chinese initials are quite hard to learn at the beginning of learning Chinese. However, through my pronunciation training lessons, I believe that you can master these sounds for sure!
Handout of this lesson: is.gd/b7vzRk
The timecode of three Chinese initials and practice:
00:29 (1) the IPA and the Tongue position of "s"
01:53 (2) the IPA and the Tongue position of "z"
02:53 (3) the IPA and the Tongue position of "c"
03:37 (4) practicing “z c s” with words
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I also found second way easier. Thanks for these videos and for not just rely on using analogies with english pronunciation like other channels do ignoring us, the non native english speakers
Nacho SolMar You’re welcome! I’m glad these help:)
Thank you for the animated graphic of the IPA and step-by-step instructions!!!!
For those who are still confused about the zi and ci, paying attention to the last examples. Pay attention to the airflow between the two. Grace puts more emphasis and blow more air out when using ci.
I think the only difference here is only the amount of air blown. Please correct me if I'm wrong @Grace Mandarin Chinese.
Hope this helps. Thanks for the vids Grace!
Of all youtubers you are "The best" simple, clear and practical... XOXO from Argentina! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 And thank you, thank you, thank you!
Whoa, I wished I would have found your channel sooner! It's so poignant to me because I noticed that you uploaded them last Fall, which was actually the time I arrived in Taipei to continue my studies and I just found out your videos very recently.
Everything you did, from the purposeful ordering of the consonants to the use of IPA, made it so easy to understand! I was also very impressed with the paper demonstration in your first pronunciation video that I did that myself. Thank you for all the help!
Thanks Grace!! This explanation is exactley what I have been looking for !! ❤️
I’m really impressed with your channel. It’s super useful and beautifully presented 👏
Your videos are really helpful. You make Chinese sound much easier. Thanks a lot! 😊
Very few intro mandarin videos cover this, so it's nice to have a dedicated video to this. I like the comparison at the end to listen to the finer difference between the Z and C, puts it into perspective instead of just practicing tongue position.
Liked and subbed, great content :)
I have seen many of these videos. This one is the BEST.
My mouth hurts after this mouth exercises lol 🤣😭😭 Thanks for the video.
thank you so much and also for the clarification on z and c sounds. I kept trying to make them the first way but it was so hard. I finally can make them the second way. thank you so much
Your videos really help us a lot ✨✨ I'm still having problems with the pronunciation of "zai" and "cai", but your explanations are helping me, thank you so much 🤗🤗
Thank you, I love all your videos, very useful ❤️
You are the best 老师 ever!! Thank you a lot!!
The best Chinese teacher ever 💚
Thank you so so much for these pronunciation videos. Indispensable!
Thank you so much for your help.
Thanks for including bopomofo!!
This is super helpful. Thank you!
Great lesson! Thank you! You helped me a lot to understand these sounds.
thanks! my colleague sent me this... is very good! Even though I am not new to it. But it clarifies a a lot from school and forgotten things.
¡Muchas gracias! Este video ha sido fantástico, estaba teniendo muchos problemas con la pronunciación de estas letras.
我恍然大悟了！多年发不准的z、c、s音终于能发到位了！多亏了老师的清晰讲解哦！太感谢您了～
很高興能幫到你！（很高兴能帮到你！）
this lesson was magic
your video really helps me a lot
Oh, that helps! Thank you.
oh boy, I was struggling with this until I saw this video thank you!
Thank you so much! Very helpful!
Thank yu sister making this type of video
Excellent explanation! Thanks :)
i love your videos. They help me alot. Thank you very much :)
非常谢谢 Grace!
Sappukei No problem ;)
Woww...tbank you for teaching us...it is so difficul but have to lean an praktice Chinese languange..thank you..
这是真的有意思even我是中国人看起来这是非常好😍😊
多谢啦，谢谢老师帮人学中文 including me
it is a high quality explain on zh ch sh r . Very good
謝謝GRACE~
谢谢你Grace妹妹. Thank you very much, this helps a lot.
Wow it's helpful 🤩
I grew up speaking mandarin, but sometimes even I get a bit confused at how to pronounce certain words before eventually figuring it out. I actually have the most problem with r sounding words bc my tongue just doesn't want to work properly 😂
Rao Sei haha it’s interesting to know! Thanks for sharing your experiences with me! Yes it really need some time to practice and get used to the r sound haha. hope you will master it eventually XD
Raosei the Beijing dialect uses a lot of r
Thank you so much
Very helpful thank you ☺️
Thankyou so much for this video ..❤❤❤🤗🤗😊
Xie xie ni...❤❤😊
It's so funny to learn these sounds! I can't really differ both ways of pronouncing /s/. My mother tongue is Russian and it's so funny to ask my friends how they pronounce /s/. I made out that there are people who prefer to put their blade's tip and there are also people who have always pronounced /s/ with their blade down. For me it's much easier to put my tongue down.
thank you !
Never thought of pronouncing this sounds the second way, as my native language - Russian - pretty much has the same sounds and I always pronounced them with the tip of my tongue pointing upwards. Now that I tried it other way I'm kinda confused that it actually works pretty good too! :D Will be still sticking to the first one I guess :)
Really liking the examples you bring up to include both of the different sounds. Going to watch the Listening Training Video next - that's exactly what I was waiting for! Thank you, Grace, and see you there :D
John Hobman Nice to see you again John! Haha yes because these two ways just use different tongue positions to create the same hissing effect. So you can do it either way;) Hope the listening training video can help you distinguish those sounds better :D
Hmm, that's interesting. I'm Polish so I've always taken /s/ and /t͡s/ for granted.
I pronounce /s/ the second way, but even though the first way feels very awkward, that is exactly how I pronounce /t͡s/.
And I also never knew there are two ways. It's great to learn about such stuff!
The handout for today's lesson: gracemandarinchinese.com/master-chinese-z-c-s-handout/
Which way do you prefer to pronounce the s sound? Most of my friends told me they use the second way (the tongue tip points down) I prefer this way as well :P
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Further Explanation:
If you prefer using the second way to pronounce the s sound, then when pronouncing “z” and “c”, you can use your tongue blade to block the air instead of using your tongue tip:)
(In this case, your tongue tip stays behind the lower front teeth)
Hii thanks for the explanation of these sounds, everything is clear now, and I prefer the first s sound because of my native language ( Spanish).
thanks so much for your video (*•* ).
Panda Astral No problem :D Happy that you understood these Chinese sounds ;) and It’s good to know how the tongue position is when pronouncing Spanish s sound!
Do you mean that I can use the second way of pronouncing "s" and expand it to make the sound of "c" and "z". In your video, you didn't mention that so I thought there can be 2 ways to pronounce "s" but only 1 way to pronounce "z" and "c".
In reality, I find that I randomly use both ways to pronounce "s", and also utilize both ways to make "z" and "c". Just randomly.
I love your videos Grace! One tip, you want to say cut to the chase, not cut into the chest 😂 The second one is like you're doing an autopsy
Being explained by this video that there is 2 ways to make the "s" sound made me realize something quite interesting :
I'm native french; and when I say "Salut", if I tell myself that I want to articulate clearly, I tend to sometimes use the first way. But when I'm speaking casually, I always use the 2nd way.
thank you again
谢谢你老师
Phonh Bounme 不客氣！😊（不客气）
you are the best.
Great explanations. I have watched 13 other videos on these sounds and this is the most complete and understandable (for an old engineer who is fluent only in English and American). The introduction of the Taiwanese phonetic symbols is interesting but not useful so could probably be removed as it is a distraction. The IPA symbols help make everything clear. (I have no background in language learning or IPA but as I also watched your zh, ch, sh video.). Brilliant! Outstanding! You have a new follower. I need to see if you have a video on 't' and 'd'. When I use these I am frequently misunderstood; they appear to be natural English language sounds but evidently they are not.
Your eyes are just beautiful. thanks teacher
I think it should be "cut to the chase." But this girl is really good in teaching
thanks for all
thanks
Thank you so much! I couldn't pronounce the "Z" sound earlier.
Another really great video, your videos provide really practical and understandable advice that helps non-Chinese speakers actually make these sounds. Thank you so much! I have a request and a little bit of information for you:
1) Can you make a video explaining how to pronounce "ng" in various word endings in Mandarin? It is different than American English "ng" sound and is hard to duplicate. I am going through the "Glossika" Mandarin training sentences and I cannot exactly duplicate the way the speaker is saying it -- the sound almost sounds weirdly "swallowed" or perhaps nasal. It also seems to be differently voiced depending on the word.
2) Just a friendly piece of information for your language learning journey. At the start of the video you use an idiom: "cut to the chest." The idiom at least in American English is actually "cut to the chase." It means "get right to the point" just as you used it. Here's some information on the history of this phrase, which comes from the era of silent films: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_to_the_chase
Hi! Good news! I just uploaded a video about the "ng" sound: th-cam.com/video/4x51--A625g/w-d-xo.html I hope it'll be helpful for you! :)
And also, thank you for giving me the information about the English phrase. It's interesting! :D
@@GraceMandarinChinese Hey, that was so helpful! Exactly what I needed. Now my words sound correct. These issues of tongue placement aren't obvious at all, but they are critical to getting the sound just right -- you're doing a great service with these clear videos and their animated diagrams. Thanks!
Very helpful
jackson jiang Glad you like it;)
thank u
Whoaa, thanks a lot :))
tank you
I find it really difficult to differentiate z and c, like sure I can pronounce the c with a stronger airflow but I don’t notice the difference when listening
The difference is very subtle actually, and honestly as a cantonese speaker learning mandarin, this is one of the most difficult areas. However, once you expertise the pronunciation of j q x, z c s and zh ch sh, your pronunciation accuracy would hugely improve.
It was really hard to start though as your tongue may not feel comfortable with the movement. It requires a lot of practice to train your tongue to pronounce the correct sound.
Z is DZ almost everytime she speak.
@@pllz123456789 were you able to pronounce z by now. I am having this same issue my z and c sound the same
Really? As far as I know,Cantonese in Guangzhou and Hongkong has these z c's three consonants perfectly distinguished from each other as they are in mandarin and all the other Chinese dialects/languages, like 酸（s）错（c)在(z).
In fact, pretty much no siniticlanguage/dialect nativespeakers have difficulty getting the difference between z and c, if not their own mother
tongues(like shanghainese) havemore similar consonants like
voiced version of z and dz,
making this cluster up to 5 sounds for learners to distinguish. I guess what you have problem with as a southern chinese dialect/language speaker as myself would be to tell apart z/zh s/sh c/ch
Maybe you live where Chinese languages are not dominant,because I got really shocked there are native cantonese speakers who have any problem with these sounds.
i am not studying chinese but i love many chinese idols and i want to pronounce their name right
I can differentiate zh ch sh from Z C S, but when it is written in Chinese character such as 之 只 知 from 子 資 字 ; 吃 池 尺 from 次 此 詞；是 市 士 from 司 思 似 they sound similar, it’s quite complicated
C sound=It's like to say:Its
pay attention to (ts) sound in its
as a Brazilian guy that is learning mandarin, I would like to say that those videos are beneficial, and I am suffering a lot in pronouncing the words :/
謝謝 🙂
Merci
Max D'asie You’re welcome! (Thank you for letting me learn a little French :D)
@@GraceMandarinChinese
You are welcome, maybe I'll open my youtube channel too haha
Au revoir (bye)
Max D'asie haha that’ll be awesome!! XD
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This video is really great, but I can still not here the difference between cai and zai... This is my biggest problem xD
I'm Jonas Haha it would be easier to distinguish them in context! You learn words and phrases with these sounds and you will be able to recognize them in daily conversation! Don’t worry! ;)
We don't have these sounds as initials in English but we have them as finals. Think of the last sound in "cats." now say "cats eye." Finally drop the "ca" sound and say "ts eye" and your pronouncing cai properly. For the "z" sound in Chinese its the same sounds as the last consonant cluster in "buds". So just say buds without "bu" and thats how z is pronounced.
@@wasaglass Wow, that is a great explanation, thanks!
@@wasaglass That's a great explanation, thanks! and than you too @Grace Mandarin Chinese !
@@wasaglass thank you! It helps)
Hi Grace, with words NOT having "u" or "e" as the back vowels? Do you still use the second way to say words with the S sound?
Hi Grace! Do you know to easy differentiate Zh and Z, for example how do I know if 早 is Zhao or Zao easily in a test? (P.S PLS HELP! I AM LOST)
Oh my god thank you i am studying Chinese in my college and my teacher doesn't speak English or portuguese(i am in Portugal) she can't give any tips.
You look like sowon from gfriend 😂♡♡♡
but other the that thanks for explaining🥰😍
The C is so hard for me. My tongue is hurting.
nice. see you
Great video. Thank you. I am confused about z and c.
When you pronounced z it sounded like a voiced sound /dz/ and c sounds unvoiced /ts/
Am I hearing things wrong?
According to the IPA symbols, they are both /ts/ and /ts/+h, so they both should be unvoiced.
Could you please explain a bit more about VOICED versus UNVOICED? Thanks!
Is this a matter just about phonetics? because if I am blind or a bit deaf I can't not recognize the difference of the sounds Z , C , S that Grace is talking about. So I think that it is about many carefull listening, conversations excercises (recording own voice) until to get familiar with these sounds and it will take (in most of the students), maybe 1 year or more of practice because Chinese has many similar sounds, similar words and similar entonations and similar idiomatic expressions, so we need to work hard on it. Grace. Thanks for your time.
How to distinguish between the C and T sound?
Thank you so much! I have been struggling with the difference between z and c in Chinese. Is it pretty noticeable when a foreigner swaps these sounds by mistake?
Apparently because I've been learning Chinese for two years and people keep telling me I don't pronounce 聪明 correctly, which is why I'm here trying to practice the difference. But I'm struggling to hear any difference between z and c, they're so similar...
I noticed that the "s" sound and the "x" sound can be formed the almost the same way in the mouth and I'm wondering if that's why the "x" sound sometimes sounds like the "s" sound to me. Like when some people pronounce "xi". Do you have any more advice for helping distinguish them?
I feel like it might be because of how loosely some people push their tongue up, but for some words it seems pretty consistent for them to do this.
The z sound in chinese sounds just like the ts sound in japanese:))
Cut into the chest = cut to the chase 😆
老师好. It's October 31st in Taiwan. In America October 31st is Halloween. So Happy Halloween to you! Thanks for the treats in today's lesson. Are you the artist who drew the pictures in this video?
Chen Jun Guang Haha Happy Halloween to you too!(sorry for a bit late:P) Yes I drew these pictures by myself. Hopefully it’s easy to understand XD
您好 Guo 老师 . I'm impressed by your drawings - simple, easy-to-understand. When I was younger I used to draw a lot. No apologies necessary in your late reply. I'm just surprised you even replied at all. Right now you have around 1,280 subscribers on your channel. It's not possible to find the time to respond to every comment. I, along with others, realize that you have a life to live besides posting lessons on FaceBook and TH-cam. If I may make a suggestion, between your local time of Friday 5 pm to Monday 9 am, don't respond to any comments in order to give yourself some well-deserved rest. Being a teacher is a lot of the times a thank-less job. Remember that your health (and personal life) comes first.
Chen Jun Guang Thanks so much for this thoughtful comment! I will remind myself to get enough rest! Don’t worry about it;) And so do you, don’t give yourself so much pressure on learning Chinese. Learning a new language should be fun and enjoyable, and then you will have motivation to keep going! ;)
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3:40 comparison
Thank you for this - I eternally struggle with this sound...as it does not exist in Spanish!
Ron Ibarra You’re welcome:) But there is the s sound in Spanish, right? Maybe Chinese z and c sounds don’t exist in Spanish(I don’t know haha).
@@GraceMandarinChinese Correct :) it is the z & c
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Can you explain how to pronounce "e" and "i" with the consonant "z,c,s,zh,ch,sh"? I'm having a difficulty with how to differentiate their pronounciation
the way I thought of it was for i, your mouth basically stayed in the initial position but with e, your mouth opens to make the e
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who else is watching this the night before a Chinese exam and dont have the work to practise so your watching a Chinese video to help you pass or is that just me
It's just you, ashie...
Estoy feliz de no ser el único que vatalla en esto
Does some area of China pronounce c as /s/? Because a VLOGer and online Chinese teacher for beginners from southern China pronounces c as /s/ for example 套餐/taosuan/ instead of taocan and I am very confused about Chinese consonants s,z,c.
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I can’t differentiate between s and c😅
do you pronounce it in chinese or Taiwan?
first one would be similar to 스 in korean?
close enough. Japanese also transcribe it as ス in Katakana.
I still can't hear the difference between c and z 😭 I came here because my teachers always correct me when I say 在 because I pronounce it like 菜, but I see no difference. I don't know how to pronounce 在 correctly. Heeeeelp!